The Daily Zeitgeist - Kim Cattrall Scat God, Indictments Drop 2.16.18

Episode Date: February 17, 2018

In episode 87, Jack & Miles are joined by performer & comic artist Anna Salinas to discuss Apple's new HQ, FBI botching their one job, Mueller's investigation into the Russians, Black Panther,... Olympic coverage, bloidwatch, Kim Cattrall, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. woman had done before, tried to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus, only on Apple Podcasts. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:15 As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows. That we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 18, Episode 5 of Der Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For February 16th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I wish you would step back. Fuck. Keep it in. I wish you would step Jack from that ledge, my
Starting point is 00:02:31 friend. I would understand. Alright. That was courtesy of Rob Lomatic, and I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, and this is a little bit of an esoteric a.k.a., but as many of you know, I like Adam Sandler comedy movies, preferably anything after Big... Er, no.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Okay, let's just cut this part out. Okay, so... My fuck-up stays in. No, okay, actually, leave it in. No, no, leave this in. I guess we're just eating time. Anyway, long story short, it's your boy Miles, aka.k.a. his nudie magazine gray. Nudie magazine gray.
Starting point is 00:03:06 That's from one of my favorite Sandler movies, Billy Madison. And that a.k.a. comes from Andy Scullin. Scullin, you did your due diligence and noticed that I'm a fan of the Sandler flick. So kudos to you. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious performer and comic artist, I guess would be a way to say that, Anna Salinas. Hey. What's up? How are you?
Starting point is 00:03:30 I'm so excited to be here. We are so excited to have you. I was told to plug my comic when I say hello, so it's Bad Comics with an X. Actually, we do that at the end, but yes. Cut this out. Cut this out. Cut out my screw up. No, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:43 We love your bad comics. Go on. Yes. Go on, Anna. Anna. Anna. Cut this out. Cut out my screw up. No, yes. We love your bad comics. Go on. Yes. Go on, Anna. Anna. Anna. I'm sorry. Go on.
Starting point is 00:03:47 They exist on Instagram and that's it. They're web comics. Bad comics by Anna. Yeah. They're very funny. Yeah. When did you start that? I drew my first comic, I think, four years ago after I got out of a relationship.
Starting point is 00:04:03 after I got out of a relationship. I like doodled a stick figure on a piece of printer paper and she's like flying through this cloud of anxiety and depression and remorse and sadness and general shittiness. And then she flies out and she's like, phew. And then I posted that on Instagram and apparently my ex-boyfriend saw it and felt deeply hurt by it and was deeply hurt by it. Dude, get over yourself.
Starting point is 00:04:31 For like a year. No, for longer. And then he called me like a year later and was like, you know, when you posted that, it's just, it really hurt. Okay. What? Yeah. But he was babysit. When you made art? Yeah. Yeah. Cause I guess it was implying that i was unhappy the relationship like duh right did you break up with him uh well no so if he initiated
Starting point is 00:04:55 you can't then be like hey man your cartoon really fucked me up i know yeah that's not your place one of those things where like we weren't doing well and I should have ended things. Yeah. Right. Well, at least Tom Cruise is doing well now. Oh. That's a good one. Anna, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Okay. So one of the big things that I have Googled recently is Rachel McAdams because someone named Edgar Montlisier made the claim that Rachel McAdams left being a rom-com star to go be an action star. Edgar Montplaisir, who we know here on this podcast, has some hot takes. Hot takes. That's a hot take. That's a false take. That don't always stand up to scrutiny.
Starting point is 00:05:41 No. This is true. He is one-third of the Culture Kings. He is one-third of the Culture Kings. He is one third of the Culture Kings. And can we tell people that you are familiar with Edgar as well? Yeah, we are dating. You're dating. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah. So that's out there. Exclusive. Exclusive. Zyking exclusive. So wait, but what's his evidence to say that? One movie. Red Eye.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Red Eye? The movie Red Eye with Cillian Murphy. And I was like, first of all, fair. You know, that's an action movie. She did do it the same year that she did Wedding Crashers. But that's insane. No. And she was sort of like a damsel in distress.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I mean, she did like some badass stuff in that, but it wasn't necessarily like she was Bruce Willis in Die Hard or anything. No, she stabbed him with a pen. Right. It's like, okay, wow, big deal. I mean, I would have been more open to him saying True Detective season two would have been like her turn as a badass action star. Because there she was a badass and could like take dudes out. She was. And fair.
Starting point is 00:06:38 She has done badass things. But I think she just was like, I want to be a serious actress. Or did. Right. To claim that it's like, and, you know, she's bold it's crazy is she angelina jolie no all right so what is underrated besides your boyfriend's takes okay uh frittatas okay uh hear me out uh i don't disagree but yes a lot of people when they have a lot of eggs, make scrambled eggs or omelets. But I recently got into making frittatas.
Starting point is 00:07:10 They're very simple. They're very good. It's a great hack. It's like a quiche, but less work. So number one, underrated frittatas. And they're good for you. You don't have to use the yolks. Oh, I could go on forever, but they're very good.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Please do. Okay, another thing is Sweden's Twitter. Really? Swedish Twitter? Well, specifically the Twitter of the country of Sweden. Oh, like they have a different thing that isn't called Twitter? No, no, no. It is their Twitter account.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Oh, okay. Oh, just follow Sweden. Oh, my bad, my bad. Yes. Okay. It is the most delightful Twitter you will ever see. It's like, I guess, loosely associated with their tourism board. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So it's all like super happy. But the worst stuff can be going on in the world, as it always is. And their Twitter is like, in Swedish, when you have coffee and a pastry, it's called fika. Go on a fika today. And it's all pictures of the woods and beautiful people smiling. It's just, it makes you feel better. And I guess you could read into it and think this is bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Because they're not addressing the bad things in the world. Is that at Sweden? Sweden.se? That's exactly it. Oh, Sweden.se. Okay, gotcha. Hedge, welcome to Sweden's official account on Twitter. Hedge is apparently how they spell hay.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Or they're just typo ridden and not even trying. No, it's hay. So I'm half Swedish. Oh. So I speak Swedish. Okay. Yeah. That is why I follow Sweden.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Did he nail the pronunciation there? Hedge. Not even remotely. Hedge. It is me, Sweden. In Sweden, they don't actually speak Swedish. They just speak with heavy Swedish accents. Right. not even remotely it is me Sweden in Sweden they don't actually speak Swedish
Starting point is 00:08:46 they just speak with heavy Swedish accents and occasionally become the Swedish chef on Sesame Street or the Muppets that's the one
Starting point is 00:08:53 the Muppets what's something you think is overrated besides your boyfriend's takes this is a really hot take oh shit okay let me open the window
Starting point is 00:09:01 but I please do it's gonna heat up Bruno Mars oh shit no that's not a hot take yeah Oh, shit. Okay, let me open the window. But I... Please do. It's going to heat up. Bruno Mars. Oh, shit. Yeah. No, that's not the hot take.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah. Really? What? That's pretty standard around these parts. Just one album of the year. Okay, here's my take on Bruno Mars. He's a copy. Yeah, yeah. There's nothing new about what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:09:19 All of his sounds have been done. Yeah. See, I feel like this is... You think this is a hotter take than it is because you spend so much time with Edgar who believes that Bruno Mars is the next Michael Jackson, right? That's true. That's true. So that is-
Starting point is 00:09:33 A stretch for me. Yeah. Yeah. You've just been gaslit by Edgar's weird- I think I have. Bruno Mars stans. Yeah. As, yeah, the best take on that was after the Grammys, I think one of the dudes from
Starting point is 00:09:43 the Fleet Foxes called him the Toys R Us Gap Band, which was, that is a fire take on that was after the Grammys, I think one of the dudes from the Fleet Foxes called him the Toys R Us Gap Band. Which was, that is a fire take on it. That's a fire take. I love that, though. But yeah, I mean, you can't deny that he's a great performer. He can sing. His songs are catchy, but he's not like- Quincy Jones put him in there as one of the good songwriters that's out here.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, he did. He was like Kendrick, Bruno Mars. Yeah, he's talented great he's a great dancer yeah yeah yeah but is he the next michael like he's not he's not an originator he's not he's just doing he just does what he does very well that 100 would he have been a better choice for the super bowl halftime yeah of course he's like tim duncan you know what i mean he did put on a fun super bowl halftime show he did yeah and yeah. And Justin Timberlake did not. I don't know if that's underrated.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I don't know. It seemed like people were having fun in the room. You were at my house as well. We had fun. People had fun. Because we were just kind of vibing to the music that was playing out loud. And I think we were all just in a good mood. I think if I were actually just sitting watching it as an audience member, I would have been like, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And I was just excited because I thought he was wearing my Jordans, but he was not. Very different. Yeah. All right. Let's get into format. We are trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now. And the way we like to open that up is by asking you, Anna, what is a myth? What's something that people think is true that you, based on your personal experience, know not to be true?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Okay. My two myths are a little political. The first one is I know a lot of people who went to Cuba recently as a vacation, and I keep hearing this thing that Cuba is this untouched paradise and people want to go to Cuba while it's still undisturbed and untouched, and I think that's a trash thing to say. I am half Cuban and Cuba is riddled by poverty and corruption. And to say you want to get there before America destroys it is crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Right. It's already being destroyed. Right. Like travel hipsters in America are people who are like, you have to go there before like all the tourists go or whatever. And like, yeah, and it's true. Like, you know, I have a friend who is very much into Cuban drumming and does like all the orishas and things like that. He's like, and he's gone to Cuba many times. And his takeaway was, yeah, like in the certain areas, it's like that. But of course, there's an entire country, and I think most people just focus on Havana or things like that. Yeah. And I'm just like, oh, it's great. They drive old cars, and it's perfect. If I have to see another person posing in front of an old car, granted, I did do that when I was there.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I just want to qualify that because it's on the internet. But, oh, those hipster photos. Now, I think I don't have to go to Cuba because I saw the last Fast and the Furious movie. Is that accurate? Am I correct in that belief? Okay. Oh, yeah. You know everything about the culture based on that movie.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I did not see it. And you're Cuban? And I am a supporter. Okay. Well, wow. Here's my Cuban card. You can take that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah. I gained it when I went to Cuba and I just lost it. You gained it when you took the photo in front of an old Chevy and you lost it when you didn't see it. Wait a minute. That's hella Cuban. Here you go. You are 100% Cuban.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah. All right. We have so many stories to get into. Like the fact that Apple employees keep running into the glass walls at their new headquarters. There's really nothing to say about that other than that. That's just a good thing to know and have in your mind. Wait. The new spaceship?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah. and have it in your mind. Wait, the new spaceship? Yeah, the new spaceship is apparently, as you would expect of an Apple-designed thing, a Steve Jobs design. It's seamless. Yeah, there's no creases, no nothing. So people are just walking into glass walls constantly because you can't see them. I think it's an indication that Apple has gone too far as a hot banana.
Starting point is 00:13:27 You know what I mean? Is that new iPhone with the no button, is that great? Yeah, it's fine. I have it. Miles has it. Miles went out and got it. I went out and got it. Miles chased the herd.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Chased the dragon, as it were. Bunch of sheeple. Yeah, sheeple. Yeah, a sheeple. It is kind of crazy, though, because it was apparently a failed phone in terms of sales numbers. But Apple then was like, but we had our most successful quarter ever because we just charged people $1,000 for it. We made so, so much money. So, yeah. They deserve those stupid walls. I hope every employee there is running into them and bleeding.
Starting point is 00:14:06 As if those people aren't stressed out enough. I have friends who know people that work at Apple in engineering, and it's the most stressful environment. To couple that with invisible walls. Their head is always down. They're reading something. Oh, that sounds terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I've heard the same thing. Amazon is a brutal place to work yeah people like they shout at each other and start crying steve jobs is notorious being like i need the phone to be this big and engineers would be like that's impossible and he's like do it or i will fucking find people that can the first okay the first iphone he announced it and like showed people it it could only do the three things that he showed them doing right it was like stuffed with newspaper basically. Like it did not work.
Starting point is 00:14:47 He was just like – and that's what it's going to have to do. And that's what it's going to do. Now you guys make it do that. Oh, my god. Literally that's Silicon Valley. Yeah, exactly. That show. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So that's terrifying. All right. Down to kind of the big news stories. We're still talking about the Florida shooting. And there are two kind of big stories. One, the FBI was like, yeah, our bad. So we were talking yesterday about how there was a YouTube comment apparently about this guy or by this guy. And somebody reported it and was like, you should look into him because the comment was, I'm going to be a professional school shooter.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And I thought that's what this was about, them saying our bad. But no, somebody had contacted the FBI in January and pass it on to the field officers in the Miami area. Jesus. So that's a fucking bummer. Yeah. It's a spectacular failure to follow through with on protocol on that thing. Right. Because it was like their open tip line where people can just concern people can contact the FBI with tips like that.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And I mean, clearly the FBI has some, you you know internal investigating to do to sort how this happened but still you think now more than ever they would be following up on school shooting tips because it's like right they're definitely gonna keep happening yeah or who knows what the process is how many things like this they get and how they have to do it uh yeah like i said it's a spectacular failure my biggest concern is that people on the right are going to weaponize this to discredit the fbi yeah right because to be like well you were too focused on russia and trump to blah blah and who knows i mean that could be right that's that's possible but it could also be like anything humans are capable of fucking up yeah and this would this could be – so I don't know. I mean I'm not here to like cape for the FBI or anything.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah. A lot of the coverage after 9-11 was about how the FBI and the CIA did a bad job of communicating to one another. And one of the big things that they hadn't figured out and it seems like they probably still haven't figured it out is like during the Cold War, it was all about getting like this one piece of information from this like Russian operative or something. And now in this new world, it's all about sorting through massive piles of data and figuring out what's actually important to, you know, pay attention to. And I think this is just another case of, you know, one of our agencies not being able to, you know, pick up the signal in the noise. Right. And, you know, the FBI is the goalie in this soccer team.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Like there is the rest of the team, which is policy and our total failed policy on like selling this guy a gun when he had like demonstrated mental health issues. And I'm from Florida and I'm from kind of close to Broward. So I do have a sense of like nothing will change because Floridians are so strong into their guns. Like there is a guy on my street back home in Florida who walks his dog on my street, my chill-ass retirement street, because a lot of people on my street are retirees, with a gun. Just like on a holster? Yeah, just like exercising his right to bear arms. But it's like, what?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, I'm guessing that your street is not active, as people would say, in terms of crime. No, not at all. Literally, I live in a a i don't live there anymore but my parents i grew up in a bit of a retirement subdivision right right oh so hey man you never know yeah i mean yeah it's wow like clearly people are afraid and like that's what motivates people to carry guns like that and clearly they're also afraid because they even look at something like this and still can't imagine like letting go of some modicum of control over what weapons they can have and things like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's like indignant. It's like I'm doing this because I can. Yeah. And I think that comes from a feeling of powerlessness. Yeah. Yeah. yesterday about how, you know, we're hoping that this is something that we're just moving, like progress will move beyond this period where guns were just everywhere. And, you know, most other westernized countries and, you know, developed countries have moved beyond that.
Starting point is 00:19:18 America's like the only one that has not and is also the only one with all these mass shootings. But so the kids are kind of giving us hope in the way that they've responded to this, the actual kids who are in the school as sort of the next generation who might give us some indication of where we're headed. And there were kids who were actually like covering this like straight up on the scene journalists during the shooting, like inside classrooms. One kid was rolling on his phone in a closet that all the kids were hiding in, like waiting for either the FBI or the police to come by or for the shooter to come by. And he was like asking his fellow classmates what they thought about gun policy. And I think we actually have a have a clip of that so what's your message I really don't think there's anything to say but there shouldn't have to be because if you looked around this closet
Starting point is 00:20:13 and saw everyone just hiding together you would know that this shouldn't be happening anymore and that it doesn't deserve to happen to anyone and that no amount of money should make it more easily accessible to get, and that no amount of money should make it more easily accessible to get guns. And that's that. I personally have rallied for, you know, gun rights and less control, not necessarily less control, but this experience has definitely changed my viewpoint. I wanted to be a junior NRA member. I wanted to learn how to hunt. I was always fascinated by guns as a young girl but this experience was so traumatizing to the point where now I can't even fathom the idea of a gun in my
Starting point is 00:20:56 house or on my bodice. I did have plans for my 18th birthday to go to Nexus Gun Range and learn how to shoot but at this point i don't even want to be behind a gun i don't want to be the person behind a bullet because i don't want to be the person to point a bullet at someone and to have the bullet pointed at me my school my classmates my teachers my mentors it's it's just it's definitely eye-opening to the fact that we need more gun control in our country because for this to happen and for people to be so neutralized to it i even texted my sisters shooting at my school i am safe they both responded with omg lol you're funny now that's a problem in society and it's a bigger
Starting point is 00:21:37 problem in america and it needs to be fixed and i believe the most definite way to fix it is by changing our laws when it comes to gun ownership. Yeah. That's wild. And he was doing that interview while they were locked down. They were hiding in a closet during the shooting. Yeah. There's other footage, and you see this.
Starting point is 00:21:59 This is more common, just footage from inside classrooms, all of a sudden you hear the shooting like it sounds like it's coming from inside the room. It's so loud because assault rifles, it turns out, are loud. But, yeah, I guess to your point, she was talking about how she wanted to be a junior NRA member. That is that is some deep cultural. It is. And you're right. Hearing those kids does give me hope. Yeah. Because I think many people who live in Broward specifically, because when it hits that close to home, it becomes undeniable and it stops being a talking point. I think for so many gun owners, it is still a bit, I guess this is like debatable, but I think it is a bit of an abstract point because they only have experience with this like responsible gun ownership.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah. But yeah, that was really heartbreaking. Yeah. And there's also just people clapping back on Twitter. And there's also just people clapping back on Twitter. You know, this is a thing, a talking point that the right tends to be able to get away with, where they will come in and accuse the left of politicizing the tragedy. And so Tommy Lauren came in and said, Can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gun owner agenda. My goodness, this isn't about a gun.
Starting point is 00:23:27 It's about another lunatic. Hashtag Florida shooting. And one of the students responded, a gun has killed 17 of my fellow classmates. A gun has traumatized my friends, my entire school, traumatized from this tragedy. This could have been prevented. Please shut the fuck up, Tommy. That's great yeah um yeah and it's good to know i mean like i'm not that it's good to know but it's unfortunate that to get a
Starting point is 00:23:53 generation of people to sort of begin to coalesce around something like this it's tragedies like this that sort of right but these kids i mean man like there were so many interviews with students in the aftermath that were so articulate in what their viewpoints were on guns and things like that. And they're the ones affected. Yeah. I mean, right now it's school shootings. And we did not have this degree of school shootings 20 years ago or even 10 years ago. And this is a war weapon.
Starting point is 00:24:20 The AR-15, like, was first deployed on mass scale in vietnam right why is this for sale for personal use right they had to rebrand it to get people to buy it called the sporter i think we talked about that yesterday but yeah just shows you how you know gun culture is just deeply uh intertwined with our society and just another uh sort of silver lining type story that we wanted to hit before we go to our first ad break is this criminal in Brazil, right, Miles? Yeah, this drug dealer or, you know, gang member, whatever you want to call him, his name is Tomas Vieira Gomez. He went and kidnapped a bunch of nurses so he could get his neighborhood vaccinated for yellow fever because apparently there's been an outbreak.
Starting point is 00:25:09 People have been dying and the government has had a lot of trouble getting vaccines to people, especially poor residents. So this guy took it upon himself. He pulled up on a vaccination clinic and kidnapped two nurses and said, you're about to vaccinate the whole hood and brought them up there. And like, according to the people that were kidnapped, there were these two nurses. They said, you know, the people that took them, they were not aggressive or threatening. They did not hurt them.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And they like they just said, hey, you're going. And I think they got what the message was. They vaccinated everybody like incident free. And then they brought them back to their to their clinic. And we're like, thank you. That is a happy story. But it's just, yeah, it's crazy that it's taking, taking you know that there are people in these situations that they're having to you know pull up for their communities puerto rico i mean that's 100 what's happening in puerto rico government failed so brazil uh yeah it's interesting because even like uh former politicians
Starting point is 00:25:58 are like hey good on you man for like doing that so i'm not sure exactly what this guy's rep is as a drug dealer let's be real like you don't you don't become the number one gangster because you're the nicest dude who is very understanding killed women and children yeah so who knows but anyway at least uh people are getting vaccinated yeah we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
Starting point is 00:26:38 My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. separated by two months.
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Starting point is 00:29:05 as the eldest daughter of beloved singer, Jenny Rivera. I'm not afraid. And I think that that's why I've been able to kind of do my own thing and not necessarily stay in my mom's shadow because I'm not afraid of stepping out of my comfort zone and shaking things up a little bit because that's the only way I feel
Starting point is 00:29:21 that you're going to make history. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we wanted to talk about late breaking news here. The Mueller team has indicted 13 Russians, it looks like. And three Russian organizations and basically said that these people and organizations were engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Poor Marco. And to support Bernie Sanders and then candidate Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:30:17 So that's interesting. It puts on paper, you know, for a fact that, I mean, that – Collusion happened. Well, not that we didn't believe that there wasn't Russian interference. But now they found people to hold their feet to the fire here. And also it hints that there were probably US Americans that they were communicating with too, which they didn't name explicitly. So I'm sure that is a reveal that is yet to come. I feel like the showrunners of the show the americans are like yeah oh man this is great pr for right ah we're so relevant right now yeah now can somebody explain to me so this is like front page drudge report like did the spinning siren or spinning police
Starting point is 00:31:00 light uh thing with the announcement that he indicts 13 Russians. Did they not think that Russians interfered? Were they not the right like the right like Fox News and the people who are kind of surprised by this? Well, I don't know. They do know because clearly, like with the way Congress voted for sanctions overwhelmingly against Russia for their role in interfering with the election. But that is Congress.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I don't know that the right outside of politicians. Right. And I think the weird disconnect happens is when they acknowledge it in the form of voting for these sanctions but then say, well, they weren't helping Donald Trump or whatever. That's when they sort of are trying to play like a weird murky form of logic. But, yeah, I don't know. I guess maybe because it's so undeniable that there are indictments for actual people rather than like the nebulous boogeyman or saying like, well, Russia. You're saying like, no, it's Yevgeny and it's Alexandra or whatever these people who were named in it. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Right. I mean, the main pushback that I've heard about the investigation is the idea that it just didn't affect people, that it didn't have an effect. The Russia tried. They put out, you know, like one percent of all the tweets or Facebook posts about the election. But some people are saying it didn't have crazy as much of an effect as people expect. I mean, effect is intangible. Right. How can you know if, like, how can you really measure if those bots and if collusion was impacting, like, opinions and minds? How can you measure that? That's personally how I feel, especially because a lot of the most shared stories were specifically fake news stories. Like they were stories that the pope had endorsed Donald Trump. And, you know, the reason that you write these fake news stories is because they are what you know people want to believe and they become incredibly successful.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So even if they were only like one out of every five stories that people read and shared about the election, they're still potent say, rep or in the very least a Republican to our democracy right now because it's true. Here we have these names indicted but that's not the spin on Breitbart. And if your only source of information is not even the Dread Report, if it's Breitbart and maybe Alex Jones, like, great. Right. That story is not going to hit you. Right. Yeah, it's hard to ever know what the effect is because these news stories just sort of act more on a subconscious level. Even if you disregard it, you may read the headline and that may inform your worldview. One hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:34:17 To an extent where you'd be like, oh, I guess some people believe that. Oh, that might be a thing. Yeah. And that has already entered your mind. That might be a thing. Yeah. And that has already entered your mind. And it's hard to – yeah. How can you sort of quantify the effects of something that probably works most effectively on a subconscious level?
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah. And you look at people who are sort of still in denial about that 30 percent who sort of looked at Trump can do no wrong. There's – I think there's a lot that they don't realize has affected them on a subconscious level that they haven't truly confronted. Yeah. I mean look, the investigation is moving on yeah no absolutely and like rick gates also looks like he's making a plea deal uh with muller because the bills are too much because if you don't have that money to go through an indictment yeah you're probably going to plea out yeah that's good all that's another that's another person uh cooperating but, I'm truly not really holding my breath because as we've seen time and again, there isn't much that can actually get people to, I don't know, wake up to what's going on or that Congress will take action.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So we will see. I can just be hopeful. I know. I have such tempered expectations about all national politics right now. I think we just have to be prepared for a fight. Well, you know what? If this nation doesn't work out, I want to tell you about a nation we can't believe. Oh, that is a wonderful transition.
Starting point is 00:35:35 That is called a segue. Let me hop on. It doesn't exist, bro. Just real quick. I did want to read how Breitbart is covering this. It was still a good segue. 13 Russians indicted for election interference is the big headline how Breitbart is covering this. There's still a good segue. 13 Russians indicted for election interference is the big headline on Breitbart. But then underneath that, still no collusion, quotes, Trump team unwitting, quotes, conspirators held rallies against president elect, which they have cherry picked.
Starting point is 00:36:00 The only details from these indictments, you know, they have pulled the words. Watch, when the pee tape comes out, they're going to be like, and see, Trump helped those ladies. They needed a restroom. They did. And also it's fake. You know what Premiere can do? They took After Effects.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah. When you actually read the article, because this is what Breitbart does. They write like articles that are accurate and then they just like cherry pick little pieces and put it in quotes and put it in the headline. And then have a very leading headline. Right, exactly. But they say that there is yet to be any evidence that there was collusion. So the headline seems to suggest that there was no collusion and we now have proof. Still no collusion so the headline seems to suggest that there was no collusion and we now have proof still no collusion because there's these russians we indicted for meddling in this is why i'm so
Starting point is 00:36:50 hopeless i read breitbart maybe a few times a week i know i don't read it i just i'm like let me just see what's going on and now facebook is like a little confused about who i am so we'll advertise oh yeah no drudge is the first story or the first website I check every morning because I'm always worried. Because I'm always seeking the truth. Yeah, I get that. And a lot of like nacho cheese advertisements because I talk about cheese a lot. There you go.
Starting point is 00:37:18 But Miles, you were saying something about another nation? Dude, the whole time I was trying to think of how I was going to spin on what one of you guys said. I was about to be like, I was going to spin on what some of you guys said, I was about to be like, well, let me tell you what's nacho prop fucking. Yes. Bottom line, I saw Black Panther last night. Yeah. We're cheering you having seen Black Panther.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Let me tell you guys, it is a fucking great movie. There are so many good things that I want to say about it. And I don't want to get it too specific because I want people to just watch it. All I'm going to say is the hype is real. And it's true. It's true. It is the wildest movie out there. It was just great.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I was so Blade. I actually kind of identify with Blade because Blade is like a half vampire, half human, and also a black man and i was like yo i fucking feel like i'm kind of straddling different worlds yeah i don't sleep and i had to file down my canines to look like a human um but like watching this movie man with like so much representation is really it's something that really doesn't hit you till you actually see it and you're like wow all these characters are dope the fucking his like bodyguards are badass i'm not gonna like just go over like point by point but suffice it to say the movie is great there are really great characters in it there are strong
Starting point is 00:38:34 female characters in it there oh yeah uh you know andy circus like luckily the white people in it who have speaking roles typically are like the bad guys. And it's funny. I know Twitter was clearly up in arms about that. I do not approve of this. Yeah. But Andy Serkis, also, shout out to Andy Serkis. Pretty, like, I know him as a motion capture dude. Yeah. But when you see him kind of play this other character, like, oh, you've got some good chops.
Starting point is 00:38:58 He's a character actor. Yeah. Or he's a good actor. Yeah, exactly. Who has been a character actor. And I haven't checked for, like, the movies that, like, I think he's in 13 going on 30 or something like that oh my god and i'm like yeah that's different than seeing this and he was dope chadwick boseman is amazing lupita niyago is amazing uh it's just it's just a good movie and the music was good the score was great yeah um i'm going to go watch it
Starting point is 00:39:19 again because the wakanda bug infected me and I'm like all about it. I definitely want to see it again. That's a good thing. That is a good thing. Okay. I mean the hype. I just, I jumped on the hype train. I was like, I was ready for it. I was the conductor.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yeah. But yes, you guys have to check it out. I have some questions. Yes. I am seeing it today. I have my ticket. I did not love Wonder Woman, but I think it's a different movie in terms of representation. Cause like it was kind of representation,
Starting point is 00:39:47 but a man still wrote the story. Right. Well, what was good here is like, there were jokes that were relevant to black people that didn't sound like ham fisted jokes written by a white guy who like listened to a ton of hip hop. So he feels like, Whoa,
Starting point is 00:39:58 they won't love this joke. That is how Wonder Woman felt. Can you give an example of one of those jokes? I don't even want to because there's such good comic relief in this film, too. I don't even want to spoil that. What about narratively? Did it feel like a superhero movie? It did.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It has all the hallmarks and trappings of a superhero movie. Sometimes it may have veered into well-worn territory for things like that but it's okay they're superhero stories right um that's why i can't really give a critique of it as a film as a experience right right now because i i went and experienced it i'll go again to actually watch it uh because i was just like the whole time i was just like just you had your black excellence hat on man i have my black excellence glasses on so i have to look at it as a regular person might look at it but man it is you're gonna love it okay well i'm excited to see it edgar dressed up as black panther black panther for halloween do you understand what i'm saying when i like was he like a black panther but he was
Starting point is 00:41:02 the hero black panther as a member as As a member of the Black Panthers. Okay. And no one got the costume. Yeah. Well, they're going to get it this year because Edgar looks like Chadwick Boseman. I know. I was watching and I was like, in my mind, I don't know why I was like, damn, man, Edgar has a good Halloween costume this year. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:22 He still has the mask. There you go. I would, man, fuck the mask. Just go because you already look like Chadwick Boseman. You can go do kids parties or whatever. Yeah. And anyway, but yes, also got to say that, again, because white people don't like black people having shit.
Starting point is 00:41:37 There was like even shit going on on Twitter yesterday where there were people pretending that they were assaulted at the Black Panther screenings. What? White people. Yeah, like uploading, like, I got a bottle smashed on my head. And it was like a photo that was used from actually, coincidentally, a Swedish woman from like a year ago or something. But they use that to sort of like push their narrative of like, oh, these black people,
Starting point is 00:41:59 if you go there, they're going to fuck you up. Oh, no. Okay, come on. Yeah. Also, no, don't weaponize swedes yeah so don't worry don't worry white people you have plenty of things that will be all yours you know that like every other superhero yeah like you'll continue to get all the roses on the bachelor and things like that but what's crazy is that they've planned those movies until 2032
Starting point is 00:42:19 or 2033 or something really yeah so like wonder. Someone probably knows the answer to this. It's making money. Because I think it's on track. What are the spinoffs? Yeah. They're going to make $25 million on opening day. So they're on track to do very well. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And this is good for other movies. I'm not a big fan of all the superhero movie stuff, like the fact that 90% of the movies in theaters are superhero movies. But this will trickle down, I think to into the kinds of movies yeah regardless of like the film i think what makes everyone really uh hyped for it is the fact that it's it's finally like an accurate representation or not accurate but it's it's a it's a cast that's majority black right and it's not trying to push like some tired ass like you know tyler perry type stuff or whatever it's just like representation here is like a great that's one of the great feats of it and on top of it you have a
Starting point is 00:43:09 very solid entertaining superhero film right that doesn't have any of like the mythos of other things you have to go into it knowing anything about it you can go in cold and you will enjoy it but there's still a lot of intricate mythos going on right because i watched a video essay about uh the trailer and all the easter eggs in the trailer yeah so look you can look as closely as you want and find the details that you need yeah exactly one detail that was kind of that people were pointing out our writer jm mcnabb did was that there was like uh in the post-credits scene because you know all these marvel films have like a post-credits thing. And I'm not going to spoil anything, but there's a scene where they're at a governmental function, the UN specifically, and there's a Welsh flag in it. And a lot of people were like, yo, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:54 What's going on here? Because if this was the UN, like the Welsh people would be represented by the flag of Great Britain. Yeah. So people were picking up on their like, you know picking up on it, wondering what's going on here. Is there a message in here? Some people said that it could just be that the set decorator just had what was in the trunk of the car, and they had that red dragon baby, and they had to just... Reject.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Now, then there are also people... What's interesting to me is that some people were theorizing that the flag was actually a shout-out to the Welsh independence movement because in the 60s, a lot of these Welsh nationalists saw a kinship with the American civil rights struggle. And that could have been like a – we see you. Yeah. We're putting the flag up there. Nationhood. Totally. Okay. people that think someone who works at industrial light and magic who did the cgi uh that they may
Starting point is 00:44:46 have just put that in as a shout out to the general manager uh who is welsh damn it that feels but who knows but again it's interesting that again this movie is people are looking at the details like you're saying so much that even picking up like that they're like okay hold on what would we be saying about welsh independence here but i do think there's merit to looking into things that much no absolutely yeah i like the do think there's merit to looking into things that much. No, absolutely. Yeah. I like the alternate. Like, that's going to be the Rosetta Stone of the whole Marvel universe, is that in this universe, Wales became independent in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Right, exactly. Right, that's right. That's what other people are saying. Like, wow, in this universe, Wales became independent. Right. What does it mean? How does that ripple out? If they had just become independent
Starting point is 00:45:25 we would have superheroes also they have the most beautiful national anthem do that yo they harmonize really yeah because apparently they used to teach kids i don't know why i'm still surprised i'm like whales yeah those people yo what have 10 years i watch rugby i watch rugby highlights from time to time and they were doing they were singing their national anthem i think they're playing england or something so something, so they were there to represent. It is a little fucked up that so many national anthems are not pretty. Yeah. Well, this one, they teach kids in school, like, okay, you're probably going to sing
Starting point is 00:45:55 this octave, or you might sing this harmony. Oh, that's so cool. So then when you get a stadium full of people, they already grew up harmonizing. So if you have a good quality of it hearing sung by a large group of people, it's really moving because you're like, damn, there are like 60,000 people harmonizing. The other team is like weeping. Yeah. No, I was – that's me weeping over my laptop. Yeah, that's how it should be.
Starting point is 00:46:18 All right. So my takeaway is that Andy Serkis is good and that's's really all i got yeah from black panther yeah my review is the white guy was the best part good yeah that's a good take to have so i'm gonna get beat up yeah right hey look hey if you're if you're uh if you're yeah exactly if you're closeted racist you know just go in with that in your heart and just be like i'm here for andy circus it is funny how desperate you desperate racist people are to make this movie not succeed and how bad that is
Starting point is 00:46:50 going to go for them because after opening night, it had the best opening night of any Marvel movie with the exception of the first sequel to The Avengers. And that movie didn't have great word of mouth, so it might even surpass. And what about internationally?
Starting point is 00:47:05 You said something about internationally. Well, yeah. So there's this myth in Hollywood that, quote, black doesn't travel, that you can't show movies starring black actors overseas because people in Europe are racist. Not us here in America. No, not at all. So we can't sell it internationally. Yeah. Oh, not at all. So we can't sell it internationally.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And this was something that in those leaked emails where the Sony executives were talking about whether or not to green light equalizer to the Denzel Washington movie. That was one of the just, you know, rules of thumb that one of the producers brought up. He was like, look, Denzel is my favorite actor, but you guys, we can't do this because Black doesn't travel. And Black Panther is crushing overseas in the UK and in all sorts of overseas markets. So I feel like that rule of thumb is going to go away. Yeah, so it's good for Hollywood, good for the movie business in general.
Starting point is 00:48:04 All the industry trade to the trade magazines next week and be like, I guess black people can go see stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, baby. Hey, we're we're ready. I'm ready for the next Latino superhero movie. It's not coming, but I'll write it. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:48:21 There is a character. You mean besides machete? Oh, I have so much to say about Machete. First of all, Machete exists in the Spy Kids universe. You guys know that? Yeah. Robert Rodriguez is like doing his own. Because he directed both.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And he deliberately put Machete in Spy Kids. And Machete's tool shop, Danny Trejo's tool shop, is called Machete. And the two kind of link up together, which is crazy because Machete is like a very rated art character who sleeps with women and kills people. And Robert Rodriguez is just like, hey, he's here in Spy Kids. He's not just in Spy Kids. He's in Spy Kids 1, 2, 3, and 4. and four guess what he's got taco shops and donut shops everywhere you cannot you cannot escape trejo god i would kill for danny trejo's career he does it all yeah right he has beautiful hair too he does i met him uh once and he was doing
Starting point is 00:49:18 an appearance he straight up had to blow dry his hair before he he came into the studio like he brought his own blow dryer and brushed his shit out and had that shit so on point. Really? I walked in. I was like, yo, people don't know this about you, but that's tight. You're out here.
Starting point is 00:49:34 You're a fucking machete. You're like, hold on, motherfucker. I got to get my hair right. And then just come in and do an appearance. Oh, yeah. The man's a movie star. Yeah. You know?
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Starting point is 00:52:59 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and we have our special Olympics correspondent. Oh, you can keep going. I was doing the music bad for that. Please welcome Sophie Lichterman. Olympic Watch with Sophie. Okay, do you want the good news or the bad news? Let's do the bad news. Bad news.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Okay, the USA sucked last night. It was brutal. And as an American, I was like, wow, we suck. We are not the – it was bad. As an American. So I'll give you three. I'll give you three examples of us just sucking. So, Michaela Schifrin was in the slum event last night, and she was supposed to be the best.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Yeah, right? But even though Jack talked shit about her yesterday in her interviewing skills. No, she's just got no personality. She's a ski robot. That's fine. She's a singularly focused human. Yeah. She has personality on the snow, though.
Starting point is 00:54:10 She kind of like, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thank you, yes. She's got swag. Yeah. But also, I learned some really cool stuff about her yesterday.
Starting point is 00:54:17 She's the queen of naps. That's pretty cool. Oh, yeah. She can take a nap between her runs. That is amazing. And the sign of a robot. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Like, I must power down between runs. That is definitely point to robots. Yeah, all right. She puts herself on sleep mode. Points to Jack for the robot thing. All right, so she messed up. So, but, okay, so when they were calling it, they're like, oh, and her first one. And apparently she's like really nervous.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Normally she doesn't get nervous, but she just like puked. Oh my gosh. While she was skiing? No, like right before she went up. She listens to this podcast. Yeah, she was like, Jack O'Brien said I'm lackluster. Not lackluster. I said she is extremely telegenic
Starting point is 00:54:53 and a great athlete who is just very Tiger Woods-like. She's like one-dimensional. That's an insult. I don't like that. In her focus. Tiger Woods do. We're not saying she's a philandering pill popper. I don't like that. In her focus. In her focus on the... Tiger Woods do. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:05 We're not saying she's a philandering pill popper. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Calm that shit down. Distracted.
Starting point is 00:55:12 So she was in second after the first run, and she did an interview. She basically said that she felt like she had a virus, and that's why she was throwing up, and not because she was nervous. But I don't know. Because you're not allowed to admit you're nervous. You're not allowed to admit, but also like Jordan flu-like symptoms But I don't know. Because you're not allowed to admit you're nervous. You're not allowed to admit, but also like Jordan flu-like symptoms, I don't care. Yeah, Jordan flu game. Kobe didn't have a game like that.
Starting point is 00:55:33 She came in fourth, yeah. Yeah, Kobe didn't have a game like that. Jack. I feel like you would jump on that. Kobe never had a bad game? No, no, that he would like push through like having the flu. I'm sure he probably did. I'm sure he would, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I mean, he took those free throws with a busted Achilles tendon. Anyway, we're getting sidetracked. Anyways, anyways. Kobe, Jack. More about America. She plays fourth. Oh, well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 What about Jacob Ellis? Oh, my God. Jacob Ellis. I want to hug her so bad, you guys. Is she coming fourth, too? She came in fourth, too, and didn't medal. Just misdealing medals.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I mean, if you listen to yesterday's episode, Jack went in and gave the whole sad story about her just just like way out in front in her first Olympics and like did a trick because she was just it was it would be
Starting point is 00:56:15 like somebody trying to like finish the hundred meter running backwards and then tripping and falling on their ass. And that's kind of what she did. And like NBC put out this thing on Wednesday that was this little,
Starting point is 00:56:28 oh, I'm chill now. I don't think about that. I surf and live in SoCal. I'm going to be great. And then she got fourth. And she didn't fall or anything. She didn't do a dumb trick. She just lost.
Starting point is 00:56:41 You know what? These girls need to, or humans humans need to be like i am nervous because it's human to be nervous and that nervousness is gonna propel me forward i need the nervous energy well stop denying it's all about looking at your energy right and it's all about how you define it because you can you can take your nervous energy and say that's fear or you can say this is excitement yeah right you can channel it that way y'all have to contextualize your energy right but jacob ellis was okay, I'm totally the chill person now. I'm in the little left corner of her eye.
Starting point is 00:57:11 She was like twitching. She was like, I'm chill. I'm chill. And then she was like, fourth place is fourth place. Fourth place is fine. Fourth place is the worst place. It is. I'd rather her have fallen and had an excuse, but literally she's lost.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I'm glad she didn't fall. Maybe she can come back from this. Because if she had fallen, she would have been totally in her own head and just mentally broken. Yeah. I mean, she kicked it off when she tried to do the Leon Lett. But now she just knows she's just not good enough, which is even sadder. No, no. She's still good enough.
Starting point is 00:57:43 So moving on to my favorite event in the Olympics, men's figure skating. Oh, my God. With you. Oh, man. You were saying this at work yesterday that you were trying to get everybody excited about it. You said, I die. I die.
Starting point is 00:57:59 It's amazing. Like, stop. Okay, let's just cut the shit and get the bad part over with. Nathan Chen, I am not emotionally invested in you anymore. I was all about you. That's convenient for you. They hyped you up so hard, bro. Like, I also want to hug you, but at the same time, I'm like, you fell into 17th place.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Yeah. That's sad. Yeah, it really did seem, in his case, to be a situation where he, yeah, he just didn't know how to perform with nerves. I feel like ice skaters fall to nerves more than any other sport. But he had been flawless in like world championships and like other competition. It's just like the Olympics. I think that just shows you, yeah, the Olympics is a school of ice.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I'm going to be honest. 90% of my quote unquote knowledge about ice skating comes from the movie I, Tanya and the subsequent wikipedia research i did um but you know nerves matter because it makes your ankles swell up yeah and that that i also think a lot of it had to do with the fact that like you know he's 18 and he had to go after yuzuru hanyu from japan who was literally perfect everything. And they threw like 300 Winnie the Poohs after he finished his flawless performance. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:59:11 Okay, so he's like... That is what you do in figure skating to connote a great performance. Winnie the Pooh, the most graceful figure. I mean, if you watch figure skating, you know that they throw stuff or whatever. So he's very superstitious. And so during competition, he has a tissue box that's covered with like a fuzzy Winnie
Starting point is 00:59:29 the Pooh and it's like his thing. Like he'll have it in interviews. Like it's his thing. And the ice was covered in Winnie the Poohs. And then it was Nathan Chen and it was like, oh, shit. That would screw with me. But like let's talk about what I really wanted to talk about, which is Adam Rippon's outfit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:46 And like, not a lot of men can pull off the leather sequins and sheer fabric look. And like, she did. And like, America's very thirsty for him. If you've been on the New York Times today, there's literally the thirstiest article I've ever seen in my life. Thirsty for clicks and thirsty for just... I mean, I'm just going to show Anna real quick. The secret behind Adam Rippon's Olympic abs, and it's like Zoom.
Starting point is 01:00:08 That is a BuzzFeed article. He has. The New York Times. Yeah. Very good times. Straight up BuzzFeed. Although, doesn't every Olympic athlete have a great body? You'd realize.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Unless you're curling. Yeah. Unless you're curling. They get a pass. They have a terrible body. But it's not always like like adam ripon where like he's just look at sophie has such a crush he's everything like i love him but won't reciprocate you know that's i'm very used to that also bad news for uh anybody who's reading that article
Starting point is 01:00:39 with hope in their heart that they would get adamippon as we were just talking yesterday about how like he was complaining that figure skaters have eating disorders and how like he felt bad when he ate a salad with salmon on it because it had like creamy dressing. Yeah. And for the most part he ate two pieces of bread. So his diet prior to he's he's had an eating disorder where he was literally eating. Is that in that article about how you get Adam Rapana? No. But it should be because that's how you get him.
Starting point is 01:01:08 This is not within this last year. So he was eating three pieces of wheat toast with I can't believe it's not butter and subsequent meals with coffee. That's really fucking sad. Okay. We should not have articles like look at his abs. Yeah. And all the women have such tiny little sinewy bodies but also like yesterday like there was also some like really weird but cool shit
Starting point is 01:01:31 happening like olympic athletes are really quirky you guys we had this uh awesome robots yeah no no well speaking of robots we had this really cool south korean who won the skeleton with a fucking iron man helmet on. And he was amazing. I was so into it. That's really cool. It was, you know, like Olympic athletes are quirky. We had an Olympic athlete in the women's snow cross wearing, like she draws on a mustache for good luck.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Like Olympic athletes are here for the shenanigans. And I'm like all about it. Man, I want to steal that. Right? Why do you have a mustache drawn? She just, she's just like into it. don't know this is my confidence mustache there's a lot going on here guys and there's a lot more to come all right there's a lot more thank you for that olympic uh both review and preview yes review and preview preview uh it is time for Bloid Watch. Bloid Watch. And we have two stories that we wanted to highlight.
Starting point is 01:02:27 The one story that is kind of all over the most covers right now is Sarah Jessica Parker versus Kim Cattrall. These two are in a feud. Yes. I don't know much about them. From what I understand, Kim Cattrall's sibling passed away. It's very tragic. And then Sarah Jessica Parker offered her condolences. In public. In public. about them from what i understand kim cattrall's sibling passed away very tragic and then sarah jessica parker offered her condolences in public in public and kim cattrall was like fuck out of
Starting point is 01:02:50 here which is a very strong message to send like maybe just be like okay that's fine but yes i guess they're they have beef uh extending back to like just since time immemorial which sarah jessica parker was not aware of right she was like, yeah, I thought we were friends. Did she, though? Yeah. I don't know. I always believe SJP. I mean, in her defense, Kim Cattrall, you know, she's an interesting character.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah, so our favorite clip here at the Daily Zeitgeist that I don't think we've shared with our listeners yet is something that Miles found and showed us. Miles, do you want to set this up? Yes. There's like a puff piece I think ABC or something did on her when she's like at the height of her Sex and the City powers. And like, you know, it's like, what's a day like for Kim Cattrall? And so this is her and her husband at the time. He plays upright bass.
Starting point is 01:03:39 He's pretty good. Yeah, he's like, he's decent. It's her husband at the time, Mark Levinson, doing okay on the upright bass. And she's Scats apparently. She's her husband at the time, Mark Levinson, doing okay on the upright bass. And she scats, apparently. She's a jazz singer. What? So check out this mind-blowing scat session from Kim C. Scat queen, Kim Cattrall.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I read poetry and sonnets, and he plays the upright bass. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid.
Starting point is 01:04:02 I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, but I'm a kid. I'm a kid, C'est l'arrĂȘt for cable. In dog Latin, he quotes, UJ, suffice to write! Feel it. Yes. Well, he bit all the he-dogs and winked at all the she-dogs. The town never knew such a hullabaloo as that little dog raised till the end of that day. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah. Whoa. Now we're cooking with gas. The crazy thing is she has a music stand in front of her. Right. Like, she's reading. She's reading her poem. She set it up. She scats her poem.
Starting point is 01:04:34 But she scatted. I thought scatting was about freestyle. It is. It was freestyle gibberish. She was combined. She was making a new form. Don't come into the cypher with writtens. Come in fresh off the top of the dome. Don't come in the cypher with writtens. Come in fresh off the top of the dome.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Don't come in with spitting writtens in here. Yeah. You set it up like it was going to be very good. I don't think scatting can be good. I think Mr. Scatman. Right. Yeah. Scatman Brothers.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Yeah. I mean, again, it's an old, it's a dated musical form. So clearly it had its heyday. But yes. I'm team Sarah Jessica Parker now. Thank you. That one single clip convinced me. Kim Cattrall was definitely a crazy person on set.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I'm with you, Sarah Jessica Parker. I waited on the whole cast back in my first job as a pool boy slash butler at the Soho House in New York. And I am aggressively team SJP based on just that interaction. You waited on the whole cast? Yeah. So how is Kim Cattrall? She just was not interested in dealing with anybody or anything. She wasn't mean or anything.
Starting point is 01:05:37 She just didn't look at anybody. This is your chance to really bring in the gossip. Sarah Jessica Parker, though, is just magnetic wow okay she walks into a room and you you feel it you fell in love with her i did a little bit yeah okay now i get it now i get the strong defense i'm gonna be switzerland in this one okay i'm gonna be neutral yeah you do you are implicit i'm a scat fan you know how i feel isn't there a part of that clip where she's like do you believe it i like didn't have any lessons or like i never knew how to scat fan. You know how I feel about my scat. Isn't there a part of that clip where she's like, do you believe it? I didn't have any lessons or I never knew how to scat before.
Starting point is 01:06:09 She was like, it just came to me or something. I think she says it later on in the clip. The whole thing. It's amazing. She thinks she's good because people probably were like, wow. It was amazing. Well, because that's what happens when you have a bunch of sycophants around you. They're awkwardly being like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Oh, fuck. She's like, what did you think? You're like, that was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like, you see Mark? You see Mark? Do you see? And he's just burning up.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah. Right. Because he's probably a real jazz musician. He's like, I went to the Berklee College of Music to learn how to play bass, and you up out here just singing that bullshit. This is his, like, one thing he does to, like, be, like, by himself and, like, have some alone time in his life. Like, hey, I'm going to come
Starting point is 01:06:45 and shit all over it. Play one of those songs. Okay, here we go. Scat-a-ba-doo. Was one of the lyrics big horse, big donkey, free donkey? I think she was just making noises at first. I heard words. Yeah. Well, that's the magic
Starting point is 01:07:01 of her. Everybody hears a different thing. And then the other thing that we knew going way back because we were paying attention to the tabloids is that they are like lead blockers for Donald Trump. Right. They are owned by American Media Inc., which is run by one of Donald Trump's homies. And he apparently bought the story from Karen McDougal. So there's a story coming out right now. Another porn star who Donald Trump had an affair with 10 years ago. And, you know, she is now like talking to Ronan Farrow in The New Yorker. But a year ago, right before the election, she sold her story to American Media Inc., and they just sat on it. They just killed it. It's basically a tabloid thing they do called Buy and Kill or something like that.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Catch and Kill, yeah. So he just bought the story to block it from coming out. So Trump had all sorts of buddies like his lawyer was just out of the kindness of his own heart paying off Stormy Daniels 100 and something. The wording of his shit is weird though too because he's like, I facilitated a payment. You're like, oh, OK. OK. You signed a check? Sure.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Or like the homie just gave you the cash on the side or whatever. It's like, you cut the check, but I'm paying you. But would it really have affected anything? Who knows? Who knows? Anna, it has been a pleasure having you. It's been a pleasure being here. Where can people find you on the internet?
Starting point is 01:08:37 You can find me on Instagram at badcomics with an X by Anna A-N-N-A. I do a somewhat daily webcomic about depression and anxiety and cheese. Awesome. Because I am lactose intolerant. And do you do it from the perspective like you wish? Are you like Ariel in Little Mermaid?
Starting point is 01:08:58 Like you just want to be part of their world? I have not gone a day without eating cheese for the last four years. Oh, shit. So you're just fighting through this shit. Yeah. I think about it every day. I'm deeply lactose intolerant. And every day I wake up, I'm like, I'm not going to have cheese.
Starting point is 01:09:12 And literally every day I break and I'm like, oh, but it's just, it's right there. Or like, I just feel like pizza and I pay for it every day. Does Edgar carry around lactate in his pocket no that's what a good boyfriend does it is right he should all my wife is lactose intolerant and i'm just like dude you better not you better not he does do that but then he's like he's too much of a pushover he'll be like okay right yeah and i'm like no what you need is like a candy necklace like you should get in the day but all lactate. All lactate. Yeah, just rock that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 And you're like, oh, shit. I always forget to carry it around. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. You can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist. We are at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:10:02 We have a Facebook fan page. Just search Daily Zeitgeist. And we have a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we post the articles and sources for the information that we talked about today. And that's going to do it for today's episode. Please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah. Or don't. Whatever. I review the show on Apple Podcasts. Yeah. Or don't. Whatever. I'm being told I was too desperate. So whatever. We're not desperate. We don't care. But if you do.
Starting point is 01:10:33 That would be dope. That would be dope. And you screen cap your review, I will read it here on the podcast lovingly. But I don't care. Whatever. So anyways, that's going to do it for this week. Another season in the books, you guys. Season 18.
Starting point is 01:10:48 What a season. We will be back on Monday. And we'll be back with a special episode because we are off Monday. But we are doing a special reading. Should we tease it? Let's just tease it. No, let's just let them know. Apparently you guys really liked when we read the Quincy Jones interview.
Starting point is 01:11:08 So we're going to make good on our promises that I teased. We will actually be doing a full reading of a few different Quincy Jones interviews that I think will be entertaining for the masses. So we're doing that so we can take a day off and, you know, respect 44 out of 45 presidents. And, you know, I hope you all have a good weekend. Yeah, we'll be back on Tuesday with a new Zeitgeist, back Monday with that special episode. Talk to you guys then. Bye. Bye. Thank you. corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
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