The Daily Zeitgeist - KnockTrend The Boots 11/16: Pearl Harbor, Snoop Dogg, Marathon Cheater, LGBTQ Polling, I-10 Freeway, Rage Room Romance

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

In this edition KnockTrend The Boots, Jack and Miles discuss Bruce Willis in Pearl Harbor?!, Snoop Dogg "giving up smoke", the latest marathon cheater (this time in Scotland), some new polling for Rep...ublicans to ignore, an update on the I-10 freeway underpass fire in L.A., and people getting nasty in the Rage Room!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:48 Did you see a clip of O-Town recently performing? No. Not that they're the same band, but... Wait, are you for real? Somebody forwarded me a clip of O-Town performing at a state fair and it was
Starting point is 00:02:04 sparsely attended. Oh. You hate to see it. You do hate to see it. I am Jack. That is Miles. I am back. Thank you for holding it down for me while I was out. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:02:19 You know they call me a paperweight because I hold it down. That's right. Did not feel good for a couple days at all it was not was not consuming i'm getting slowly getting over it slowly getting back look it's a hard week on the show it's been a hard week on the show between my back and jack's fucking wild illness we pull through we pull through for zyking so we gotta have full custody um all right well these are some of the things that are trending uh big news in the world of 90s movies i guess a guy posted a video on twitter of jennifer garner freaking out in the michael bay movie pearl
Starting point is 00:02:58 harbor and in the background among the frantic wounded soldiers uh john mcclain wanders by like undeniably john mcclain from die hard um now some might say it's definitely john mcclain from the original die hard but eagle-eyed uh listeners and uh one miles gray pointed out. I'm telling you. I think it's Die Hard with a Vengeance. I think it's Die Hard with a Vengeance. He's in sunlight. He's in daytime. Yeah, he's in sunlight in a tank top. He's bloody. Although, I've been looking closely, right?
Starting point is 00:03:37 In the movie, he has a lot of injuries to the left side of his face. So, maybe they inverted it, but his arm is very bloody. Yeah. At a certain point when they're on that ship. I'm not joking, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Right before like we got on this, I scrubbed through the movie really quick. Cause I tried to find it. I couldn't quite find where this may have come from. Yeah. But just with like the lighting and knowing that in the original diehard, I'm pretty, we don't see him in the,
Starting point is 00:04:04 in daylight looking messed up in a tank top right? No he is un-messed up when the night falls so unless it's the scene where the FBI shines a light on the building so for anybody wondering what the fuck we're talking
Starting point is 00:04:20 about first of all it's very strange people are debating like people are like oh this is this is just a you know a fake uh coincidence so some ai bs or like the guy looks like him but you can like when you go and watch it and it's very clear that they have clipped a scene in which bruce willis is wandering past the camera, badly injured, and just used it to cover up some cut or another,
Starting point is 00:04:52 like some weird editing trick. Yeah. And because Michael Bay features 54 edits per second, roughly, the brain just doesn't notice it unless it's isolated for you. Right. But it's wildly noticeable for you right but it's wildly noticeable if you just yeah yeah people have been talking about it for years apparently there's like
Starting point is 00:05:10 a 14 year old youtube video they're like yo did you see that you see that do you see that yeah um and i don't know so a lot of people are like oh what does this mean like what what's the message here people are like it's an easter egg other people like, they worked on Armageddon like right before that, potentially. I'm looking at this as a warning about 9-11. Interesting. This movie came out in May of 2001.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yes. And it's about an attack on America that maybe America knew a little bit about, but just kind of let it happen. America didn't see coming. Didn't see coming at all. Maybe should have seen coming. Maybe should have like read the reports that were like,
Starting point is 00:05:51 this is about to happen. Yeah. Then a New Yorker, New York cop there, you know, just as a, as a forewarning, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:06:00 but it's just, it's just like so odd. I like every time you read people try and explain it, it just seems weird. Either Michael Bay is being a dick or he wants to put him in there people speculate that like there was like a beef potentially that bruce willis and michael bay had because like bruce willis wasn't a isn't a big michael bay fan um and he was saying that he potentially would have like he said he didn't want him directing die hard 4 and then michael bay was like i was never gonna i was never gonna direct i don't do it i didn't even like oh that
Starting point is 00:06:28 movie was even though i spliced it into my other movie you want to fight right here yeah so it's taking off his wedding ring um it's yeah it's it's interesting the 9-11 thing very interesting theory miles i hadn't even put it together that the the pearl harbor came out right before 9-11 yeah also pearl harbor happened in december who is more likely to be at the wrong place at the wrong time yep in december than john mcclain involving the japanese nakatomi i mean we shouldn't have to connect all the dots for you no no no i don't even have my red string out it's that easy yes it's laid itself out for you but yeah if anyone else has interesting theories about it i would love to hear it because it just honestly it's so weird if you want to cover a cut in post there's so many ways to do that but this seems intentional
Starting point is 00:07:23 or i'd love to hear the thing about they're like no like that's just some dude who looks like bruce willis right or was it bruce willis yeah i mean i'm pretty sure it's got to be like it i i'm 100 certain they just took like it i i trust you as a diehard fan to know when Bruce, when John McClane is on screen. And I've never seen Pearl Harbor before, so I don't have the baggage that a Pearl Harbor fan might have. Right. Um,
Starting point is 00:07:55 but yeah, he might. Yeah. Apparently he has been known to reuse shots from his own movies pretty, pretty regularly. Um, so it's like, i basically made this i mean i just made a movie with bruce willis so why not um so he just grabbed grabbed some johnny mclean
Starting point is 00:08:14 yeah anyway why not why not well anyway it's just doing people's heads in on the internet right now yeah there's some interesting fan theories here though that uh i think people should should think about like because so die hard 3 happens in the summer uh pearl harbor day has the beginning of december what's in between summer and december don't make me get out the calculator like how many days okay hold on hold on now don't think that i didn't do that miles because i did I did. So if you went from Christmas Eve back to September 11th and then went the same number of days back, it would be May 30th, I believe, which is entirely within the realm of possibility
Starting point is 00:09:00 of when Die Hard 3 takes place because schools are still in session in new york city i believe if i'm not mistaken right isn't there a scene where all the kids have to be taken out of the school um yeah yeah so i don't think they ever specify a date uh in that one because they were like all right summer ish because yeah why are the kids in school we don't know we don't quite know yeah hot time summer in the city uh all right so we we've got this news story that falls under the category of is this a news story or is this a like some sort of tease for a super bowl ad yeah there's something afoot here right maybe i Maybe. I don't know. Snoop Dogg posted
Starting point is 00:09:47 that after much consideration and conversation with my family, I've decided to give up smoke. Please respect my privacy at this time. Posted next to a picture of him, prayer hands. And I don't know. People are speculating. He's talked told jimmy kimmel back in 2003 that he had stopped smoking back in march he said that he was cutting down now that he's a grandfather that makes sense this all makes sense it's yeah the reason i'm a bit dubious is just the aesthetic the way this is being presented there's a there's a black and white image of him looking like he's like got his hands clasped together like as if he's in prayer and he looks conflicted uh like overly in an overly dramatic way and then this text is on there after much consideration conversation i've decided to give
Starting point is 00:10:36 up smoke please respect my privacy at this time it feels like too big of an announcement i feel like if you were seriously trying to stop using some a certain substance or whatever a bad habit of vice you have you're probably not going to announce it and if you are it either reeks of some kind of weird like weed cessation thing he's gonna try start fucking hawking right or just something like i don't know it just doesn't doesn't sound right yeah it's probably like not uh not the favorite post it if it turns out to be like some sort of marketing stunt like he's launching some non-smoke weed product or you know like edible company or yeah yeah like then it's probably like i would say that's probably
Starting point is 00:11:25 in bad taste for people who are struggling with addiction like to be like, psych! Yeah, right. It was a bit. But yeah, at the same time, like I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I think we should grant him the privacy and hope that he's actually, you know, doing whatever is best for him and not, and not a marketing stunt. Calvin, we hope you're on the,
Starting point is 00:11:50 we hope you're on the right path. And if this turns, I mean, here's the other thing is Snoop Dogg has sold his identity to so many brands over the last couple of years that like, I know, like, I've just know he's,
Starting point is 00:12:02 he's making money. Right. You know what I mean? Like, I think he's all right. I think he's he's making money right you know what i mean like i think he's all right i think he's doing something to make money like he's in them corona ads he's been so many things like yeah he's like he's honestly very successfully turned his thing into like murder was the case that they gave me to being like hey yeah i'm just like this meme like lovable guy yeah so we'll see. What if it was just a Corona where he's like, instead I do alcohol now.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Alcohol. Have you heard about this stuff? The new weed. Yeah, beer better than weed. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto,
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Starting point is 00:15:34 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. your podcast the black effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back we're back and it is a very specific genre of story that never gets old yeah um cheat so cheating on a specifically uh cheating on a distance race by jumping in a car there's so many examples this is so wild this like i believe uh this this i think is a scottish marathon runner in this like ultra marathon uh basically has been banned for 12 months for using a car during a 50 mile race yeah allegedly apparently and not allegedly she's admitting to it she didn't in the race she hopped in the in her friend's car and then like finished somewhere up the road and
Starting point is 00:16:32 placed third in this marathon and then officials after looking at the tracking data were they're like this is kind of anomalous 55 for a whole stretch of this race? 55 in a 45? What's going on here? And she later admitted that it was, quote, a massive error to accept the third place trophy, something she attributed to fatigue and jet lag having arrived from Australia the night before. Okay. And then said, quote,
Starting point is 00:16:58 I would never purposefully cheat, and this was not a target race, but I don't want to make excuses. Lady, you got in your friend's car like yo i'm done like i'm cool right like let's just go home that's one thing but then you're like hey drop me off right here drop me off right here drop me off right here okay cool cool yeah see at the reception later oh man third place huh ha. Oh, man. Third place, huh? Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Not even first. Sorry to my haters. Yeah. How slow is your friend's car? You know? Right. Didn't even come in first. Couldn't come.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I guess that's probably how you do it to not bring suspicion towards your performance. It's like, I'm not going to win the race. Yeah. Just place third. One of the people who got caught doing this was one of the major marathons, New York or Boston, and hopped in a taxi and came in first. And everyone was like, it's wild because we've never heard of them before. And they came in first by a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And they didn't even seem like they were in great shape. I think it was Rosie Ruiz who ran the Boston and New York City. I think the next marathon just got found out immediately yeah they were like uh-oh yeah keep an eye on this one um yeah let's talk about some polling that republicans are gonna ignore absolutely um we were just talking this week about how they just can't give up abortion. Uh, like, you know, going after abortion rights, they can't give up attacking trans people. It's borne out in the fucking results of their elections. We talked about how unsuccessful they were, like 73% of candidates that were like running on homophobia or like healthcare rights denial. Uh, they lost 73% of their races.
Starting point is 00:18:44 And now you're looking at a national poll asking about what do y'all think of people just going after, you know, LGBTQ people, content, whatever. Over half of Americans, 52%, oppose federal legislation banning public schools, libraries, and hospitals from having programs,
Starting point is 00:18:59 events, or literature that mention gay or transgender people. 53% are against federal legislation banning all federal agencies and facilities, including the military, from having programs, events, or literature that mention gay or transgender people. Well, how many of those people
Starting point is 00:19:16 opposed the interns that the GOP had? Because that was the theory that I heard them working with, that they just had the wrong interns and staffers. Oh, yeah, I don't know. And that's why they were losing elections i haven't seen the cross tabs on that but um i'll look into it i'll look into it but it's like i don't know clearly they they're they see the evangelical side of things as being like a huge driver of like their support but now you're it's fracturing in a weird way because you're like i don't know people we live in a slightly more accepting society than yeah 30 years ago but hey turns out keep making it easier for people to not do anything about it maintain the status quo if
Starting point is 00:20:00 you're running against a republican all right when checking with la after the uh horrible fire that damaged the 10 freeway yeah it's going to take months to repair um the la times weeks say hey hey come on don't make gavin newsom look bad oh is that right no this is like it's just funny because a lot of people are like for someone who has political aspirations this some people may fucking point at this to be like and what happened down there just like you know how in pennsylvania there was that huge fire and everyone's like oh shit this might fuck the roads up they kind of fix that they fix that thing like way ahead of schedule and there are a lot of props being given to the governor there but what happens with gavin newsom with this part where 300000 people transit this part of the freeway all the time, can he get it done in time?
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah. So one of the things they're offering is a push for better public transportation, free rides, faster trains, more buses. The faster trains one is the one that I'm interested in. It's hilarious because, yeah, Mayor Karen Bass is like, make that one train, the E-Line, go like 10% faster. That's what it is. They're going to boost the speed by 10%.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And then what they are doing is adding more train cars. But it has, like I said, on Tuesday, they had a 10% increase. More people are, I mean, because the delays are obscene. The streets around downtown are grid-locked.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Have they looked into what was going on? I know that there was a whole bunch of wooden pallets underneath the tent that were not supposed to be there. It was just... The story's wild because
Starting point is 00:21:46 this was a program that the department of transportation caltrans like had initiated i think during the pandemic where they were allowing companies to like use overpasses as like storage spaces and this one company was like delinquent on all their payments to like maintain this space started subleasing it. So there was a ton of wooden pallets there, and then apparently a ton of leftover hand sanitizer that some company couldn't unload. So they basically had just fuel and fuel chilling there, and it was just a perfect mix for all that shit to happen. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Hard times. Hard times. Yeah. As Superdusr brian pointed out it was a lot like that where was that beirut explosion yeah it was just yeah old fertilizer also storing fireworks there equals yeah catastrophic shit yeah this is i mean yeah i i'm really curious to see how this plays out, because I know this could be like a real this could turn into a political thing, you know, when people are campaigning. And just in general, I just for everyone in L.A.'s sake, please, please fucking fix it. At least they don't have to tear any part of it down. That was like the big worry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So I guess it's three to five weeks is what they're estimating. So, uh, not months, month, maybe. Um, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, we'll see. And finally, uh, we have a report from rage room owners. What a, what a crew. Um,
Starting point is 00:23:20 always like to check in with them every once in a while. Uh, who are saying that growing number of customers are engaging in sex acts and intense makeout sessions in their rage rooms. Yeah. So people are smashing shit and then wanting to literally smash smash after or in the room. One person,
Starting point is 00:23:39 one owner said, quote, every once in a while, people do get a little handsy. I've had some customers lay down together in a room filled with broken glass so maybe there's a danger aspect to it i'm sorry what speaking lay down yeah is this a pastor who owns this lay down these customers were had they laid i had them lay down together i caught them
Starting point is 00:24:01 lay down together i don't know what they were doing but they were trying to carnally know one another while also risking knowing the broken glass right which yeah you don't want to know that glass in some cases there's like some like they had some like sex therapists like also chiming in on what they thought was going on and they're like i could be like this you know safe form of domination where you're like dominating these inanimate objects and then that carries over into this other people are like i don't know man people just get fucking horny smashing stuff um and then you're in a room with someone you i guess are attracted to and then that shit happens i don't know i i've not explored the idea of breaking ceramic plates as an aphrodisiac.
Starting point is 00:24:49 We look at the pictures of people doing it. They have full-on head coverings. It's just all about shredding. Dude, those are body condoms, dude. So hot. That I'm'm fucking seeing and then all those gases that are released when they're smashing up e-waste oh that's pretty so hot when it
Starting point is 00:25:14 carcinogenic particles get into your fucking lungs but it is like when i first hear about this i'm like have they not heard of you know boxing gyms or like something that allows them to hit something but doesn't require them to expose themselves to you know e-waste and broken glass and uh horrifying chemicals but i feel like it's the destruction in the same way that america responds like a war crime has been committed when somebody damages a bank you know like i feel like this is them committing one of the ultimate transgressions in america in the american psyche and so like that's why they to like destroy the the the chains of consumerism yeah with hammers yeah like one of the pictures of them like breaking a copier which
Starting point is 00:26:05 obviously is a potent image from that's office space office space but you know that that seems like this is a lot of what they're doing is just breaking machines uh with hammers so i just wonder if that like breaks something inside them and what comes out is just like all the shit that they've been bottling up in their day-to-day yeah you know yeah uh i i look i i'm i am now i'm i'm uh intellectually excited by the prospect of this i will see if i become physically excited by doing this i don't know how many they have around la though i feel like it's the things i think of immediately like those axe clubs right what if these just like move into office depots like after they close down oh shit yeah yeah they do like they're like actually rather than like shipping this stuff off like we can make a lot more money just letting people into
Starting point is 00:27:03 the warehouse and breaking it a bunch yeah uh producer brian points out copiers are full of ozone carbon monoxide nitrogen oxide and volatile organic compounds um okay that's just like your opinion man where would you rather lay with someone that's interesting because i can only get aroused unless I have a lung full of ozone, carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxide, and volatile organic compounds. Okay. Yeah. Don't yuck his yum. Yeah. Don't yuck my yum.
Starting point is 00:27:32 All right. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Thursday, November 16th. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. We will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and
Starting point is 00:28:38 Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and
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