The Daily Zeitgeist - Laura Ingraham Accepts REALITY, Randy Quaid Not So Much 11.25.20

Episode Date: November 25, 2020

In episode 767, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Scam Goddess Laci Mosley to discuss Roger Stone fueling the Georgia fire, Laura Ingraham giving up, the woman who was blocking the Biden admin...istration transition, the Randy Quaid videos, rich people buying second passports, Trump's presidential library, and more!FOOTNOTES: Roger Stone-Tied Group Claims Dems Are Framing Them As Republican Party Turncoats Glum Laura Ingraham Tells Fox Viewers It’s Done: ‘I’d Be Lying’ If I Said Trump Still Had A Chance Secret Service agents asked about transferring to Florida to guard Trump after he leaves office: report Under pressure, Trump appointee Emily Murphy approves transition in unusually personal letter to Biden The Honorable Joseph R. Biden, Jr. Trump Posts Series of Bewildering, Deranged Videos From Actor Randy Quaid — And a Call to ‘Re-Vote’ the 2020 Election Rich Americans Are Increasingly Looking for Second Passport NBC News Historian Asks Where Trump’s Library Should Go, and Twitter Explodes with Suggestions The New ‘Donald J. Trump Presidential Library’ Is Fake News For His Detractors To Love Trump’s presidential library will be a shrine to his ego The Nixon Library Has Finally Stopped Calling Watergate a 'Coup' Presidential Libraries Are a Scam. Could Obama Change That? WATCH: Diamond Cafe - What I Want The Most (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, November 25th, 2020, 56 days until January 20th. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Daily, Daily, Daily Zeitgeist from the comforts of home. Day, don't miss a day, don't miss a day, don't miss a daily Zeitgeist from the comfort of home. One fuck, two fuck, three fuck, all daily Zeitgeist from the comfort of home one fuck two fuck three fuck all daily zeitgeist from the comforts of home fuck ben shapiro and all republicans daily zeitgeist from the comfort of home that is courtesy of j music at j music chicago and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray hello my baby
Starting point is 00:03:07 hello my love gray hello my ragtime gal send me a spliff by wire baby my joints on fire okay Hannah Sulfis, Hannah Rand McVue on discord I think that's you right using different names on discord
Starting point is 00:03:23 thanks for that one of Michigan J-Frog. That interesting caricature. Very culturally sensitive caricature. That made me wonder, is Michigan J-Frog smoking a blunt? Because doesn't Michigan J-Frog always have a cigar?
Starting point is 00:03:39 Or am I thinking of Groucho Marx? Was his whole thing like he was actually dead? I remember the whole bit was him, it was like he would be in a shoebox. And then, like, suddenly he would be animated. Yeah, like, before all the dubber, dubber, dubber, you be shit, when he was just, like, on Looney Tunes, I remember,
Starting point is 00:03:55 it would always bum me out because I'd be like, yo, what's this one thing? Is this a floppy dead frog who's, like, just acting all, anyway. And then they'd electrocute him and he'd pop up? I can't remember, you know, like, shout out to you, Michigan. And then they'd electrocute him and he'd pop up? I can't remember. This is not a good podcast about the lore of Louis Tunes. Here's some half-remembered science history. I'm pretty sure that they first learned
Starting point is 00:04:16 about the electrical nature of how charges go through our muscles by electrifying a frog leg and seeing it twitch. Oh, right. Easy. So that's probably what that's a reference to. Hey, Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Starting point is 00:04:34 by one of the very faces on Mount Zypemore. Legend. She is the legend, the hilarious, the talented Lacey Mosley. Yes. Hey. The legend, the hilarious, the talented Lacey Mosley! Yes, hey! Oh, that was such a nice introduction. I take all the compliments I can get these days. It's 2020. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I don't think the compliments will ever stop for you, Lacey, to be honest. To be frank. How are you? Well, I'm thirsty for them. We have plenty of water here. I'm actually okay right now. I take it day by day. I get up every day.
Starting point is 00:05:16 The interesting thing about 2020 that I really love about it is I no longer will be unprepared for bad news. Because anything can happen in 2020 i'm like oh okay that makes sense it's 20 like it's fine i remember i saw an article that was talking about how tupac shakur didn't approve of donald trump's like latest something and i was like oh tupac's back alive oh well that makes sense and it was actually his brother but i was like anything can happen also named tupac no he's three pock right so they they said two pock shakur and then you know they put a real small like brother you know they'd be trying to bait you by the way i get shit for making dad jokes and mom just said three pock shakur, and he's not going to get any shit for that.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Come on. Yeah, I let it ride. I let it ride. Trust me. It came in the form of people just not acknowledging how cringe it was. They're like, uh-huh, and going on. They're like, let me just say this shit in the corner. That made me uncomfortable, but we can do it.
Starting point is 00:06:20 We're just going to keep it moving. So, John, where do you file the complaints at the Daily Zag? Just add one of us. think of how that works. The thing with all of the bad news, I'm trying to think, is there truly anything you feel you could hear and you wouldn't be prepared for it?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Like if they said, like if Beyonce was doing the little toonchy route and suddenly maggoted'd it up, would you have been able to prepare for that? Do you think you could handle something like that? Because I feel like there are. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So what would you do? How would you let that roll off your back? Like you. So in the same way, should we not be surprised? I guess that would be the same thing where you were like, hey, y'all, make America great again. And I'm like, guys, we know. Y'all don't know how close I've been to selling MAGA merch, okay?
Starting point is 00:07:09 The money is there to be made. Like when Obama was running for president, I remember I was like, I couldn't vote. So I was like, let me get me a little Hope Hope shirt. Let me get me a little Change Change merch, a little drip, right? But Trump supporters go above and beyond. They got earrings, shoes, bras, shirts, panties, flags. Like you above and beyond they got earrings shoes bras shirts panties flags like you name it they got it and i'm like bro i could be making so much money all i have to do is start being like yeah well it's funny because whenever you see those footage of the maga rallies
Starting point is 00:07:37 there is always like the one hustling black person who's like yeah man come on get this trump merch and they're like they're like i know you are purely there because this is your hustle like you don't because you see what it is and you're like i can buy these cheap ass flags i sent them for a three thousand percent markup uh and i'm killing it and then they want to buy for me because i'm the one black person here that makes them feel good about their racism it's a win-win situation right and they got boring ass phrases like make the libs cry i'm like i could come up with some fire phrases for y'all get some flavor out there on these shirts i mean you gave joe biden leg 2020 for free so you know that's true but yeah much libs uh while while we we we do have uh the
Starting point is 00:08:20 scam goddess in our midst and we were talking before we started recording about scams that I was not aware of, of how you scammed the police into not pulling you over. Yeah. So you mentioned I had heard of like you donate to the local sheriff and get like a little bumper sticker. But you were saying there's like a foolproof platinum standard. It used to be right. like a foolproof uh platinum standard it used to be right like in the 90s the kma 367 license plate holder was the fucking like the way a lot of people just like if you like have a firefighter in your family you could put the lafd sticker on and sometimes they'll be like all right you know and i've a shout out to my homegirl britney who her father's a firefighter i feel like they never
Starting point is 00:09:04 had any problems i mean they're also white but also they were driving recklessly at times and i was impressed but the license plate holder it all kind of came out because it would be a thing like you could buy at the police academy store and so that would say like you're affiliated with a police officer and so back then the optics were like okay someone with that license plate holder maybe you would give a second thought to pulling over i mean publicly they're like we someone with that license plate holder maybe you would give a second thought to pulling over i mean publicly they're like we you know that doesn't do a damn thing if you have it but i also know uh and i'm not gonna make it hot for this person but somebody i went to high
Starting point is 00:09:34 school with their dad gave a lot of money to the lapd because uh they wanted to you know have as much you'd be able to maneuver the legal system as much as possible and whatever this thing was was they got like this badge that was like commemorative of giving to this you know benevolent police society of la kind of thing and i like i know for a fact my friend used that to get out of being pulled over like they like they went in their like a badge in their wallet yes it was like in a leather bound thing and whatever i've to this day i don't know what it was that shit it's like the ring of power but like white people have it and you're like what what is this uh and you know it was just in and out and i was like your car was stinking like the like you know the loud
Starting point is 00:10:22 pacquiao and you still were able to move on so yes there's well i want to say to all the people out there who can't afford to donate to the murderous police may i suggest buying a thin blue line bumper sticker like i'm going to do and have everybody looking at you fucking crooked in this city crazy yo my car might get keyed but you're gonna be a viral tweet it's funny i have such a visceral reaction whenever i see that now because i'm like i do too i literally tried to take a photo of one yesterday but that motherfucker was not moving i think he saw because i was just like what i was like the audacity in la county to have a thin blue line like that and also like all the racist like promos and stuff are always just biting off cool black people things that they think are fun.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Like thin blue line. Where that like, you know, like, come on, y'all. Come on with some hot shit. I mean, that flag's kind of cute, though. So. Isn't it like the Punisher with like an american flag kind of remember james harden was wearing it into the yeah yeah yeah oh yeah he didn't know he didn't know he was like that's cool look fucking sick like damn what a blessing to be that disconnected yeah it's just in general too
Starting point is 00:11:38 like none of that iconography like enters your consciousness and like because it's true i feel like nowadays you have to tell people like oh you know what that means right you know what this means right wait it's a smurf with a green hat oh okay so uh yeah so i see what you're about but he's a black man so to be a black man and not know what that flag means like you rich rich yeah yeah yeah you're like i'm sorry the the plight of working people has not entered my consciousness for nigh on a decade now he did just turn down a whole lot of money so yeah he's doing all right um all right let's uh tell the people what we're talking about and then we'll get to know you a little bit better uh roger stone has entered uh the national consciousness once again. Now that he has been pardoned,
Starting point is 00:12:26 he is doing the Lord's work and potentially tampering with, not tampering with, but affecting the upcoming Senate runoff in Georgia. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about where Laura Ingram's at with her acceptance, with her stages of grief. we will talk about those quade
Starting point is 00:12:48 clips uh randy quade we'll talk about the coming virus checkpoints in new york city there is a new scam where rich people are buying uh second passports to countries that I think they made up called like Cyprus and shit. And we'll talk about Trump's presidential library if we have the time. But first, Lacey, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, so I'm not going to say... Miles just texted me something rude um i'm not going to say the person's name because it's a private citizen but i was googling this girl that i've never met because i've been going down instagram rabbit holes just when i have free time and so one of
Starting point is 00:13:42 my friends posted this picture of this girl. He's a guy. He posted a photo of the girl, and he put six years and a heart. And then I was like, okay, is she dead? Are y'all together? Like, what? Like, and I didn't want to ask in the comments. And so I'm like, let me look at the comments. They're going to tell me.
Starting point is 00:14:01 The comments are all people like hearts. And I'm like, okay, so she must be dead. So then I went on her Twitter. It was locked. I was like dead so then i went on her twitter it was locked i was like damn i went on instagram it was locked i googled her because i was like then i'll see the funeral home arrangements and then there was no funeral home arrangements so that went on linkedin i was like she's not updating so maybe she did still and then i saw she had posted something from 2019 on facebook so i was like well it can't be six years since she died and i was like, well, it can't be six years since she died. And I was like, I thought this man was single. And because he had been flirting with me a little bit. So I was like, I thought he was single. Hey, dead to him.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Dead to him. I do kind of appreciate his keeping it vague. So people can't figure out exactly what he's saying, but he gets points for like acknowledging their relationship i was like i want to click in the comments and be like sorry for your loss or congratulations i'm confused right they're like thank you and it's like what which one thank you he never tells you yes yes you're right oh man yeah that's man going through those rabbit holes it's funny because especially when i would fall in love with people on instagram like this was like 2010 2011
Starting point is 00:15:15 like you're like i just need a photo and one thing to create a whole narrative about how we will be in love and then you will see like you'll go through past things. And I remember one person I was crushing on, they did have, like, a boyfriend pass away. And, like, there was a post like that. And I went back. They were, like, high school sweethearts. And it was, like, it kind of changed my whole, like, weird parasocial love affair through Instagram. And I was, like, this is tragedy. I'm going to leave this person alone.
Starting point is 00:15:39 They don't need me to meddle even though I've never reached out. I've done enough here. They can feel. They can feel my care yeah yeah what is uh what's something you think is overrated lazy overrated the crown um it's honestly frankly is boring um they just have a fantastic director and am i watching it yes will i continue absolutely but is the concept like boring as hell like i every time there's a scandal i'll look it up since it's based on you know loosely based on the real crown and the scandal would be like he was caught canoodling and then everyone said that he broke the moral code and i, what? Or there's like a whole episode about a place setting. There were several shots of someone cleaning the chair.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And I was like, y'all, it's the crown boring. Are those I was I was reading about how like they're the juxtaposition of like class consciousness is like the different like a big difference from like the past ones where everything sort of seemed like whimsical tales of like royalty like this one has like more shots of like like the working people of like the uk juxtaposed with like the you know royal family and things like that to kind of underscore like how sort of dark and dreary things were especially with thatcher but i haven't seen it plus i just don't latest season has more shots, you mean? Yeah, yeah, the latest one. Because it's more Thatcher or Diana focused. And this one has Diana in it. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. But in general, I'm just not as intrigued by it. So it's interesting to hear you say that you still keep watching it, a little dry, but enough to keep you going. Well, it's colonizer porn. That's probably why you're not interested in it. It's like, oh, look. And also, they're scammers.ammers i love pocahontas
Starting point is 00:17:34 miles always challenges us at every creative meeting that we have to paint with all the colors of the wind yeah before we start guys um the no but i i was just gonna say the last thing is the royal family are scammers and that's what i realized from watching the crown is like they have no use they are completely unnecessary and they're a drain on the uk's resources and money and so in order to like keep their scam up they gotta like look old-timey they basically gotta be walking paintings that show up and be like look oh shit the walking painting the The walking paintings, oh, my God. They're history. They're live history.
Starting point is 00:18:08 So if they get too modern or too interesting or make any opinions, they piss some people off and then everybody be like, hey, wait a minute. Why don't they get the money? Right, exactly. Because I'd imagine if, like,
Starting point is 00:18:18 Prince Charles pulled up in, like, a two-tone FUBU jersey and, like, a fitted hat and, like, suddenly they'd be like, I don't know are they taking seriously like yeah i mean like are they just it just seems like they're people they're just like the windsors now we don't really got to do much else but i do feel like they invented the whole celebrity kind of culture that we now use to distract ourselves like they were just they it's strange that it
Starting point is 00:18:47 went this way but they just like structurally created celebrities for the whole country to like gather behind and give a shit about and then america made it so that like they uh could also be like do interesting things and be good lookinglooking, and that's where celebrity culture came from. But a lot of the shit, like the paparazzi, all that shit started over there. There's entire careers of people called royal watchers who just pay attention to everything that these boring-ass people did. Yeah, they were the first Kardashians
Starting point is 00:19:26 but not as hot and much more boring. Far fewer sex tapes, thank God. Yeah, we don't want those tapes. Speak for yourself. Right. I mean in the modern world You want to see Queen Elizabeth getting her fuck on? I will say, babe
Starting point is 00:19:41 they're alluding to her getting her fuck on. I want to see i want to see philip i want to see philip philip bucks yeah unfortunately there's an episode where philip is like you look rather tall today and she's like do i and he's like well there's two solutions you put on some heels or you get on your knees and she's like cancel my engagements and i like, y'all really got to play Elizabeth while we're giving the sloppy tappy? Yeah. Come here, your highness. I want the sloppy yoppy. I love it.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Bring in the throat goat. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. But I feel like that's why uh like princess diana and megan markle are like so they like cross over they were like so they could be celebrities on their own and they like managed to be part of the royal thing so like they are uh super that's why they both tore the family apart there's so much drama around them because they're like, who are these sexy-ass bitches? Didn't we tell y'all to go get some plain-faced women from around the corner in Scotland?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Where did you get this fine-ass woman from? By bringing in actual celebrities that make them look bad because you have the good-looking friend next to them. Yeah, that juxtaposition. Oh, yeah. Wait, why do we pay attention to you guys? Right what is uh what's something you think is underrated lazy i'm i'm i'm in a big netflix wave right now so you're gonna get a lot of netflix takes it's catching on now and it's getting popping but queen's gambit uh yeah yes i almost didn't watch it because I was like, oh, more white lady TV.
Starting point is 00:21:26 But then I was like, I love chess. I haven't played in years, but when I was a kid, I would play with my dad. And as I grew up, someone said this on Twitter, and I was like, damn, maybe my dad did scam me. Because my dad taught me how to play chess, and then we would play against each other. And he'd always be like, want to bet? And I'd be like, yeah, I bet $20. He's like, I bet you watch my golf clubs. And I always had to watch his golf clubs.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I was bad at chess. Yeah, wait, Lacey, I played with you. I don't know if you were playing the same, because I remember the way you were moving the rook around the board. I was like, that's... Oh, no, the rook can do everything. The rook can do everything. You ain't know that?
Starting point is 00:21:59 That's a grandmaster. That's a whole grandmaster new rule that people don't know about, but the rook can do anything. Oh, which grandmaster did you study under? Grandmaster Flash That's a whole grandmaster new rule that people don't know about. But the rook can do anything. Which grandmaster did you study under? Grandmaster Flash? Flex. Fab Five Freddy?
Starting point is 00:22:12 They taught me everything I know about chess. You don't even need a king, for real. If that nigga go down, you can keep playing. I don't know who said that. He's still got pieces left. He's still got pieces left. You still got pieces left. I hate playing with her. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, they basically just created a rock star chess expert. That's sort of the idea behind the show. But I love it because it does give me second wave feminism vibes. But it is like there's a moment in the show where the girl is signing up for her first competition and the men are like, oh, you're not ready for that. What's your rating? Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 She's like, I want to be in that tournament. They're like, but nobody ever does that. She was like, is it against the rules? And they were like, no. She's like, put me in there, bitch. Anyways, I'm going to go take my drugs. So that's the one thing. If you're in recovery or yeah trying to get sober is very
Starting point is 00:23:08 triggering because she takes drugs that make her better at chess come on man drugs and i won the tournament yes also like when she gets clean it's not realistic because it's like she goes on a full fucking bender for like what seems to be a month and then she just gets clean and it's like she would have had withdrawal there would have been a bad period of like feeling horrible so like if you yeah if you're dealing with substance abuse issues or just not even issues but like you know the challenge of the quarantine is pushing everybody hard right now so maybe don't watch queen's game because that shit makes drugs look fun i I was like, a chess board on the ceiling? Lit. Where do you get this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Like, that's the way to play. Yeah. Although there is somebody who dies of alcoholism or like dies of, what's the disease that turns your eyes yellow? Oh, hepatitis. Hepatitis, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Dies of hepatitis from alcoholism, but they don't like dwell on it. They're just like, ah, shit. And then just move forward. They're like, oops. Welp. Yep. But Jack, that did make me think of the episode that we had where we talked about people randomly
Starting point is 00:24:14 dying in the Dominican Republic. Because it was like they were on vacation. So they kind of made it like that vacation death we talked about, where it's like, oh, you're having lots of fun fun and then you die. So, y'all, watch out. If you're doing Thanksgiving, don't go too hard on the turkey. Right. They were in Mexico, right?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah. When she passes away. I would now that I know what I know, a.k.a. now that I read one book about the history of the CIA, I would assume that she was murdered by the CIA. They have a heart attack. They have a heart attack. They sent in a jackal. Yeah. They were just like, she's too powerful. We have to take somebody she loves out.
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Starting point is 00:28:37 And we're back. And let's talk about Roger Stone. He is back in the national story national story the shadows i guess you don't know who knows it's always murky yeah i was just talking off mike about the cia book and the uh or no i'm like i guess uh and the history of just like all the behind the scenes dirty ass tricks that the republican party pulls and roger stone right in the mix always yeah he's always down for the fuckery uh he's just you know right now we were talking uh yesterday about how we weren't sure if if voter suppression or actual republican infighting happening in georgia because
Starting point is 00:29:20 on one level you're like okay they're just to rip each other apart. And if Democrats turn up, it should be decisive. But then on the other hand, I was like, is this voter suppression? Because that's the kind of shit that would have most people being like, look, they're tearing each other up. Only a couple of us need to show up and then maybe the special elections decided. But now it's starting to become a little bit more clear like what's happening. But the problem in Trump world is that there's always one side that has like a goal with what the misinformation they're putting out but they don't but they have a problem having the base understand that it's just a tactic and not the gospel truth so right now there's a group tied to roger stone and eric prince actually called the committee for
Starting point is 00:30:01 american sovereignty they they were involved with it in 2016. They like started it because they were all in on get this at the time of the 2016 election. They were trying to attempt to suppress the black vote by, you know, putting out these stories about how Bill Clinton had biracial son and all this other shit. So that's where this group sort of started in 2016. all this other shit so that's where this group sort of started in 2016 cut to now they're now the ones who are screaming the loudest about sit the senate race out in georgia to show the gop like they can't just keep like fucking with us with the trumpers and then that'll show them and they're so right they're doing is they're hoping that theoretically there'll be enough people supporting this movement that uh that
Starting point is 00:30:45 they're saying like oh yes we will spite spike the election just to fuck over the establishment gop uh to try and force like mitch mcconnell and the rest of the party to you know have a come to jesus moment and reject their election results i mean now knowing that pennsylvania is certified there's like the court route is done like that that's Georgia. It's a wrap. Like it's so you're going to have, it's going to, it's going to require very fucked up, uh,
Starting point is 00:31:10 thrashing for this to happen. And their website says, quote, if we can do this, we have a real chance at getting these Rhino senators, Republican in name only, uh, to act on the illegitimate and corrupt election presided over by a Democrat
Starting point is 00:31:23 party. That is, that is invested in the communist takeover of our great nation uh okay and then like so when i was looking on things like twitter or parlor rush limbaugh they're all kind of doing the same thing like where they kind of sound like aggrieved black and like progressive voters who are the refrain is some version of oh so now they need our support to save them but when we need them to do evil racisms they oh they forget okay well not today and i'm like wow this is so interesting like that the version one version is like we want
Starting point is 00:31:57 justice and equality and fairness for all people and if you keep fucking with us like we're having problems this side is like you are not fucking it up for evil racism enough and we will take our votes and walk so it's really uh really something else right now the polling seems to suggest though that they only have about a single digit of support for this kind of thing but with with margins like they are already in these states like that could absolutely decide the senate runoff yeah and i'm sure it's growing i mean i'm sure you guys covered um that phone call that came into bill riley with the very distressed trump supporter who said he would
Starting point is 00:32:36 die for trump um yeah i think we did at one point the republican party and he was like crying bro i was like is this like a cry um you know but it's because he's he's been deprived of his hatred you know he needs three hates a day and if you've been mo me we can get him the hate that he needs but anyway um direct that's not the not the point though in all seriousness there is it's funny to watch basically four parties being formed where you have like you're super far left who the more middle left were always moderate left. We're like looking at us crazy, like, oh, you want us to cancel student debt? Like you're wild and like we need your votes, but you're being wild. And then you have the Republicans who are more conservative, who are just like, we want to make as much money as possible.
Starting point is 00:33:23 We don't really care about racism. Like, yeah, we're racist, but like we don't care about it it's not our daily goal and then he's our god at the end of the day yeah we know it's a bad look for us yeah yes look we don't want to be canceled okay like try going to fashion week when you're tweeting the n-word constantly it's not going to happen listen i don't even have black people working for me that's how rich i am so it's like i don't i don't see them um and then you have your racists yes i have white gardeners that's the real flex is when you don't have no people of color working for you like no they're
Starting point is 00:33:55 all eastern european uh but so and then you have the super far you know crazy wingnut people who are like look i didn't finish high school because i have an alabaster associates and if we don't keep racism alive i can't walk into any room and automatically be better than anybody there who maybe had worked harder than me so it's it's but it's weird to see their parties start to divide it's falling apart because they've used them for so long and i saw during john mccain's presidency when you know everyone was like oh and he's not presidency i mean his run for candidacy oh my god candidacy miles you don't know that you're in that alternate reality where
Starting point is 00:34:36 yeah and my and my and i've been with my girl for six years because it's 2025 yeah exactly six years heart don't say anything else i was just gonna say that fire's been burning i saw john mccain have to put it out so much when he was campaigning and people being like barack obama said and he was like please don't say that like so but they also need their votes so happens now? They need the hillbilly vote. He's a Muslim. He's a Muslim. Now, ma'am. Ma'am.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Now, only my vice president is allowed to say that. No. The best was when he's like, no. And she said, no. Back to him. No. Because I don't trust him because he's a Muslim. No, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:35:23 No. No. Yeah. No. Get the fuck out of here she was like i thought this was a safe space yeah like she's like what's the call and response fuck yeah it's it's really something else to see i mean it's again and we've talked about this before it also reveals like the game they're playing if they're really if they understand how just how fucked up you know obviously the structures of our government are such that you want to keep the senate even if
Starting point is 00:35:49 it's not working for you to have a senate majority makes things easier legislatively but they're so like on this shit like i don't care about that because i want to i'm so i've just become so spiteful and hateful i just want to ruin the party for these other people because i'm not really that connected with the legislative aspects of it. So it's yeah, you hate and love to see it. I mean, it's all, you know, we'll all see what happens, because on one level, you think that if they keep saying this shit, there are going to be people who are like just more like, yeah, fuck that. establishment GOP people because they didn't upend the results for Trump and not realizing that they're just trying to do that as a tactic to try and get them to the table. So this could also be a great case study for the Democratic Party, because if this continues to go
Starting point is 00:36:36 in the direction that it is, we'll see the, you know, racist Republicans separate from their party. And if there's significant damage, it might be an absolute wonderful threat and case study for us to point to to our more moderate democrats who you know like the ones who try to rephrase defund the police the ones who try to step on activist work and make it more appealing to white people like we might be able to be like hey look over there if you don't want all of us black people and all of us people who actually need you to make change to dissent and destroy your party you better do what we ask yeah that would be that would be great if that's how they took it i i feel like the democrats are even more dug in than uh the establishment republicans because well if the republicans republicans lost their lost control of the
Starting point is 00:37:20 party when trump won the nomination yeah if anything they're looking at their themselves in a similar position being like we can't let all this shit on the like the real progressive policy stuff become this party like they'll probably do whatever they can to make sure they're controlling the party but you know i think that's eventually why the the partial blessing of even this fucked up last administration is the amount of people who have been more engaged with how you know power works in this country and like how legislation works can make hopefully give people the imagination be like well you know what actually if we look at it uh our numbers maybe we can pack our shit and go somewhere else it woke people up and like now now that everybody's paying attention you know the i think on the left the people who are typically democrats who are now paying attention and weren't before like they're
Starting point is 00:38:10 for this is yeah they're for the left and the people who are on the right are just like spiraling into a death cult so i'm hoping that the democrats don't view it as that opposition. But I've talked to people who are establishment Dems who are just so angry at socialists for pushing back on their bullshit. Yeah. Right. Because they don't want to rock the boat.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. That's the problem with both sides that are closer to centrists, like the Democrats and the Republicans, the older ones. They're just after money. Both of them. It's a power grab. It's a money grab. So we have issues with both sides of our leaderships at our parties because they're criminals like they're for themselves.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And they're not they're not normal working American people. They're not. Right. They live in. normal working american people they're not right they live in they they're they're processing the reality of this country through a lens that is does not apply to 98 percent of fucking 99.9 percent of the country i think most old white dims are like we tolerate the coloreds and the gays like it's not like they're like we accept them right like i had james cliburn's family over for easter three years in a row i will not be called racist no sir it's frustrating that the things that people on the left are pushing for are things
Starting point is 00:39:34 that they're like no we believe in that too it's just impractical we can't get it done and it's just like fuck off like that that doesn't make sense to me anymore as like an argument because i mean we've seen what populism and appealing to it's easy people can do it's easy to bullshit like if you go take your car into a mechanic and you don't know shit about a car it's easy for a mechanic to say a bunch of shit to you and you're like oh okay so then i know my car is not running right but you say i have to do this that and the other thing before it starts running right. Because I don't know. I'm trusting you as the layman for you to explain that to me.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Now people are more engaged. They're like, I'm actually looking at account like where I live. We have too much money going to the police officers, not enough for social workers. We need more to refund like the actual communities. I'm looking at the math here. And now you're trying to tell me you can't do that. I don't understand now. It's like you can't really.
Starting point is 00:40:23 math here and now you're trying to tell me you can't do that i don't understand now right it's like it's like you can't really it's it's harder to bullshit people with this sort of like well you know that the reason we're not tackling that is because we have to know like we're seeing the building on fire for what it is now and you're just trying to tell us you want to put out the garage when we're like the fuck of the whole thing is on fire let's do that right like finding out that home ending homelessness is cheaper than keeping it going in Los Angeles. I was so baffled. And then I also learned back a few years back, there a large reason why the police harass black people in my neighborhood and their neighborhood is because they assume they come from the affordable housing units that the city was forced to make that everyone who has a house thought would drive down their property value. So the police harass them.
Starting point is 00:41:22 The community kind of hates them because they didn't want poor apartment people near their nice houses and to find all of that out i was like wow like i just you know you see a news story and you're just like oh the police beating people up but to find out that there's so much structural thing like stuff happening and who has time to look that shit up all the time i just accidentally saw that right right but i mean it goes back to redlining and like the structural things that have been in place since the beginning of the 20th century or like early mid-20th century like yeah just yeah property and segregation and uh but that's where we're at right like before you know it's easy lacy for you or anybody look at that and be like yeah there the cops go again that's how they
Starting point is 00:42:02 do it and then now we're in a world where we can be a little more we're adding more texture and understanding it that it's not just like this nebulous thing of like bad racism or like greed you're like no it's at this level with how we are planning our cities who we give loans to the idea of how property values work and tying that to black bodies meaning that it is going to decrease things now we're we just need more people to be able to see what is happening because then we have less people who can get bullshitted by the mechanics you know what i mean because if more of us understand then it's not as it's much harder to dismiss us when we're saying no no we we've we've read the books we know what's going on we don't like you know this ain't the village anymore we've been outside the walls it's not this shit that you were telling us so now come with it yeah laura ingram
Starting point is 00:42:50 is this this is at miles as you wrote in our doc this is like uh a good tile for your fucked up 2020 political bingo card laura ingram is out here trying to get the republicans uh in line with the idea that biden will be president yeah i thought she you know she's been willing to fucking go full throttle on every other bullshit story that's come out of the white house and you know a cape for white supremacy at every turn but yeah she she went on her show she got on her nazi soapbox and she did the unthinkable by acknowledging the reality of what the election results are she even used the fucking word reality on her show um here i'll play the clip for you real quick but uh she's basically i'm gonna play it from the point where she basically is saying
Starting point is 00:43:38 like look y'all um it's me laura it's your girl um let's be real let's be real um those hearts going i'd be lying to y'all if i said trump had a way to win okay i think you know we got to deal with the reality that joe biden will be inaugurated on january 20th and everyone's like what the fuck and then and then she and then she but then you know she has to pivot because she can't just be out here being like he's gonna be president of course then she begins to cast dispersions. And but just listen to this. To say this does not mean I don't think that this election was rife with problems and potential fraud. And to say this does not constitute being a sellout to the conservative populist movement that I've been fighting for, for I don't know, 25 years. And it does not mean that I disagree
Starting point is 00:44:22 at all with the president's right and obligation to pursue all legitimate legal challenges to this outcome. To say this constitutes living in reality. And if I offered you a false reality, if I told you that there was an excellent phenomenal chance that the Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:44:40 was going to step in and deliver a victory to President Trump, I'd be lying to you lolo said my producers came in and said they gonna cancel my show for being propaganda if we don't start telling the truth she's like look unfortunately i got kind of the taste for finer things when i wasn't on tv all the time and i can't just be rocking with my pillow anymore uh i've been doing racism for 25 years y'all know your girl okay if there's an oppression to be had i'm eating sis right but this one is just not gonna work i mean i love it to say this constitutes living in reality that's a pretty like forceful way of talking about it not that she's like dunking on
Starting point is 00:45:25 them but she's trying to be like i think on some level she doesn't want to be she knows like it's it's really just ridiculous to try and keep rejecting it when everyone knows behind the scenes they're saying the same thing so yeah good for her i'm curious if they'll cancel her i don't know how tucker's doing since the he asked for evidence and was accused of being a what is a comet pizza regular yeah uh so we'll see uh what happens here but i think like anything you know all of this was happening along on monday with all of like a ton of establishment uh republicans being like come on y'all like i think it's time to do something here it's not you need evidence because
Starting point is 00:46:06 what you're coming with is all kinds of fucked up and rudy giuliani is just making an ass out of himself and i can't i can't go out there and defend that so i think that also is what triggered trump's sort of half-assed concession where he's like i've decided for the good of the country to tell emily murphy to begin the transition doesn't mean i'm conceding the fuck that like it would but he but he did but you know he is he is beginning that process um and yeah it's a lot of a lot of shit moving now this does make me think about the possibility of like so trump says he's gonna come back and run in 2024 uh hopefully he's in jail and that's not possible but a lot of people are like well somebody else is just gonna come right in and pick up the mantle and be like the
Starting point is 00:46:52 populist choice for the republican party but like that person will need to be anointed by trump and therefore sign on with like a bunch of really wild bullshit like that that you know the one of the people who most people uh most gets discussed as a possibility for that is tucker carlson but like he wasn't willing to go cross that bridge into just a fantasy world and so he's not going to be the guy that trump is uh putting out there as like his heir apparent. Yeah, I think it's going to I think it's not going to happen until like younger people, you know, like this generation of politicians, they still they still have this sort of idealized way of becoming a politician or getting into office, which is like I won because I had more
Starting point is 00:47:40 support. Right. You know, like because it's and it doesn't no one like wants to win a sporting event by cheating you know on that level so i think it there's gonna be there's just needs to be that there needs to be but those people who are going to be you know gleefully accepting a trump anointment or whatever they're going to be on the same wavelength there's like i don't give a fuck who likes me i'm here to fucking force my worldview on an entire nation that's my fucking dream not to be the president who is voted and i get to wave out of a car it's like no i want to be you know the fucking king of my island essentially and that's i think that mentality isn't as widespread quite yet i think the only people who think like that are like ethno nationalist people who are like honestly the only way we can keep america white is if we like have some kind of autocratic regime who's quite literally kicking people of color out or segregating them from the white
Starting point is 00:48:34 population so it's a it's a bit of an evolution that is going to take place but it's beginning you know because you see already like the supporters who are in smaller numbers who are like absolutely their heads are on smaller numbers who are like absolutely their heads are on fire about this being like fuck democracy fuck this place these other people don't know what they're doing we need to actually tell them what the rules are now um you mentioned a name a moment ago emily murphy that we haven't really talked about uh but she is the woman at the gsa that was in charge of releasing the funds for the transition who finally kind of went through with that decision um but so spitefully yeah she so what what what's
Starting point is 00:49:16 she got going on where is she at with all this so you know I think then the the moment we were like oh shit's kind of moving was because this gsa thing came out because a lot of it was like the fact that they're holding up the cash to you know sort of financially and sort of officially acknowledge that there is going to be a transition of power the fact that that wasn't happening was like it was like what the okay right who is this person uh she's a you know it was working at the rnc and other places that. Prior to this, she was saying this in this Washington Post article that just saying like the days leading up to her finally saying like, okay, we'll do it, whether that came from the president
Starting point is 00:49:54 or her sort of being like, don't worry, I got your back. We're pretty fraught. In this thing, it says, quote, from the Washington Post article, Murphy wanted more certainty before triggering the transfer of power. So she was in a position where she didn't know what the fuck to do because everyone was angry at her, essentially. She was saying,
Starting point is 00:50:15 even as her resistance was upending hundreds of years of peaceful handovers, she considered the mileposts to come. Battleground states would certify the vote and Trump's legal fight would play out. That's what she was saying. She's like, that's what I think ispost to come. Battleground states would certify the vote and Trump's legal team legal fight would play out. That's what she was saying. She's like, that's what I think is going to happen. But then there was the president's anger and the risk that he would fire her and her top aides if she moved forward.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Republicans at her party, while privately acknowledging that Trump had lost, were sticking with the president in public. Murphy had little cover. Then threats came in as furious trump critics demanded that she released the money and then on if you saw yesterday there were a lot of congress people being like hey emily murphy bring your ass to the fucking hill to fucking talk about this shit and she's like well maybe we'll send a proxy and they were like no no we want you we need you here to talk to us to test we need to you need to explain to us on the Hill what is going on. And once that happened, like within an hour, it's like, all right, we've released the funds.
Starting point is 00:51:12 So the pressure worked, but her letter had big Karen energy. Like it wasn't like some, hey y'all, like I fucked up or anything like that. It started off with, it's like, it's addressed to Joe Biden. Okay. Is that how the letter starts and as the this is a straight verbatim from the letter dear joe biden yeah what's like dear mr president it's like the honorable joseph r biden jr i think is what it said this is then it starts off with as the administrator of the u.s general services
Starting point is 00:51:40 administration i have the ability under the presidential transition act of 1963 as amended to make certain post-election resources and services available to assist in the event of a presidential transition and you know it it's like that's your duty girl we know it's not an ability right that's why we're having this conversation that's why we're mad because you didn't do your job right i'll be like yo as a custodian i have the ability to clean up refuse on the ground it's like it's the job description not to demean it the work but like to say to describe your thing as like a superpower rather than like that's your function in that job. It's so stupid to try and like keep your power. Then as it goes on, she says,
Starting point is 00:52:27 I have dedicated much of my adult life to public service and I have always strived to do what is right. Please know that I came to my decision independently based on the law and available facts. Then she takes a little bit of a turn and says, to be clear, I did not receive any direction to delay my determination. I did, however, receive threats online by by phone by mail directed at my safety my family my staff and even
Starting point is 00:52:51 my pets in an effort to coerce me into making this determination prematurely even in the face of thousands of threats i always remained committed to upholding the law did she get by land and by sea because we also send threats that way right exactly by air. Did she get on threats by land and by sea? Because we also send threats that way. Right, exactly. By air, by drone, she get those? To be clear, this has never been held up before by this position.
Starting point is 00:53:15 This is unprecedented and she is fully inserting herself into the line of the peaceful transition and making it a fucking complete disaster well she's not very smart because what she did was delay the longevity of her own career like every good republican knows when to jump off the ship they exploit their racist community but they're like well we can't get too racist because that'll really you know fuck with my hedge funds
Starting point is 00:53:41 i don't know so when she saw the results, she should have just facilitated the peaceful transfer of power. But instead, she allowed the party to put pressure on her. And then when the pressure was on her, all of a sudden she didn't realize it was going to turn against her. We were going to figure out who she was and we were going to start hitting her old girl up and dragging her by her brown edges. But in my point, she also threw herself under the bus in this letter she's not a smart person because she doesn't know how to play chess because for you to send a public letter right and you think oh i'm reading him down i got this job i allocate the funds me girl me but right but there is a sentence in there that'll ruin your career and that is
Starting point is 00:54:24 i made this decision independently without any pressure. You should have thrown everybody under the bus. You should have been like, look, Rudy Giuliani bussing my office, fucking hair dye flying everywhere. And he was like, don't you give him the money. He actually got hair dye ruined the dye. I was going to approve it, but he came through dripping with hair dye. I had to reprint the dye. That's what the delay was.
Starting point is 00:54:53 It wasn't that so yes she is now uh you know this happens people bet on put their money on maga and it's fucking it goes poof like what the fuck were you doing like but she really thought she's like oh wait till i'm i'm gonna be at the rock nation brunch uh of racists by doing always always by actually doing the the best thing for trump and look where it got you it's really it's yeah it's yeah you know she's just not bright you know what it's it's what we're seeing people are fucking around and then they are finding out yeah yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Woohoo! That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of... Drumroll, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras.
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Starting point is 00:59:00 And we're back. And before we move on to a couple of scams, I wanted to talk about these Dennis Quaid. No, not Dennis Quaid, Randy Quaid. Sorry, I went a click too reasonable there. Randy Quaid clips that the president, or I guess a clip and then a bunch of tweets the president is retweeting.
Starting point is 00:59:21 They seem to be intentionally unhinged and scary and like he has like a red and green blinking light and his face is fully filling up the shot that's how you want to shoot yeah can we can we just play the audio it's so bizarre yeah i wasn't sure like what the lighting situation was if it was christmas lights because I only saw red and green. I think it's the full spectrum. And he's a fat man with a beard, so you're like, I got Christmas vibes too, yeah. Okay, let's hear his warning shot to Fox News. Fox News daytime ratings have completely collapsed.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Weekend daytime, even worse. Very sad to watch this happen. But they forgot the way... This is some weird... They forgot what made them successful. What got them there.
Starting point is 01:00:28 They forgot the golden goose. The only difference between the 26. Okay, I got to stop. It only goes on. He's like, the only difference between 2016 and 2020 is Fox News. It's just amazing to imagine him shooting that,watching it and being like yep print post or even funnier that was the fourth one fifth one you had to do the the part where he goes that seems like he could he could have cut right there or did an edit
Starting point is 01:00:58 yeah bro this is the disease of celebrity and this is why I love my mom and my family because I will always be regular as hell. Because you get to a point where people love your dirty draws. And they'll just be like, yes, you walk it. You better walk. You better eat food at the restaurant. We love you. And so you just start thinking you can say anything. This is wild.
Starting point is 01:01:20 This man is wild. How do you get really close to your mic and you talk like this? What's happening? Lacey Mosley. Oh, my God. It sounds like the ghost of Christmas past or future, whichever the scary one is, as played by, like, Jim Carrey trying to do a villain character.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Ana Jose was saying. Oh, right, right. There's some definite, like, Jim Jim Carrey evil Jim Carrey vibes going on there you know it's powerlessness it reminds me like like this whole thing he was this whole energy he was
Starting point is 01:01:56 putting out was as if he was this fucking wizard right like don't fuck with me bro cause even though you're winning right now in reality i'm doing spells in my bathroom that are gonna fuck you up bro you don't know you don't and it's like some shit just for yourself like they're just gassing themselves up because they took such a huge l uh big l rest in peace and they were actually out here like they're having to trick
Starting point is 01:02:21 themselves into feeling this like power that they don't have that's why like that i've i was trying to find this other video i was seeing of this other guy who like on maga tiktok who's like this is a warning we have been activated and we will fight for our country like it's this weird shit of like you know like not to fuck with be like a bully in high school or whatever but like you know how like in high school sometimes there's this weird shit of, like, you know, like, not to be, like, a bully in high school or whatever, but, like, you know how, like, in high school sometimes there's some weird kids who be, like, meowing and shit at you and, like, barking? Because, like, they're like, I'm going to be weird, and that's my power because I'm just trying to make sense. Yeah. Of just being, like— Theatricality.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Yeah, of, like, to sort of overcome shit. I think he thought he sounded like James Earl Jones. He listened to that, and he heard James Earl jones and that's not what happened they're also starting to do like songs that are creepy like you know that song the hanging tree from hunger games it's like are you are you going to the tree it's like that kind of thing but they remix it with trump and it's like get on the trump train are you are you coming to the train and like i saw it and i was so terrified it was like if you google trump train you will find this song and it is terrifying i mean like death cults don't and slaves yeah death cults don't... They think they're slaves. Yeah. Death cults don't start out...
Starting point is 01:03:45 Death cults don't start out, like, real creepy and shit, like everybody wearing robes. They, like, just develop in that direction. So maybe that's just what we're seeing, is them kind of going full cult. Yeah. Because in the song, they're talking about breaking chains. I said, who put you in chains?
Starting point is 01:04:03 Y'all made the chains. Well, that's that's the the whole theme of them right now is like they're doing sort of this weird blackface thing of like they're like we are the slaves now like i'm no no you're not shut the fuck up about that there's tell me i'm like and it's so weird to see them like agree with each other it's like yeah man i mean i guess when we're trying to fight for our freedom, like to not be put in these like cancellation camps, like blah, blah, blah. And it's like, y'all are so dumb, man. Like you think this shit that you do in your weird fantasy world, like is what we're going for.
Starting point is 01:04:34 It's like, no, the aims are different. Like in a world where I think the policies of progressive people are played out to the end. Even these MAGA people be like, no no my life's actually pretty good yeah um but but i look at everything i look at progress as a fucking zero-sum game where there's winners and losers who thought of it first uh well then i'm against it this is just all bullshit but yeah it i hope like the kids who are meowing by the library and shit like that and doing animal noises who now have become like therapists and like uh like engineers and things like that they'll grow out of it but i don't know racism is a hell of a drug we're just the withdrawals we're seeing right now are truly something else wild um a couple scams i wanted to get your thoughts on lacy uh scam goddess um so there's a new scam where it's kind of a two-sided scam a mutually beneficial
Starting point is 01:05:27 scam where uh small countries like cyprus are offering uh something called citizenship by investment uh which is where where rich people like donate you know hundreds of thousands of dollars to the country and can then become citizens of that country. And, you know, so basically citizenship becomes something you can buy as opposed to something that has to do with like where you were born. And the idea is like this used to be a big deal for countries like, you know, Pakistan where that might be on like a uh travel advisory list or some shit like that and now that the u.s is crumbling rich people in the u.s are starting to buy this shit up to
Starting point is 01:06:15 so that they feel like first of all they can flee if the taxes get too much but also they can flee once we come for them wow okay cool yeah i'm gonna start selling passports as well the place is like honda yeah they're like try and find it it's not on any of these lists so you can go anywhere you want with that that's what you want it's something that's not on the map oh yeah and it's made of vibranium so be careful with that the other thing i mean they have this in the u.s too right like because you know i think a lot of countries like it's like like you spend like two million dollars or some shit and then it's like all right we'll we'll relax our immigration laws but it's interesting like in the context especially of the u.s passport being like a fucking scarlet letter in terms of
Starting point is 01:06:59 trying to travel around the world i'm like fuck bro like i'll drop fucking three million for a cyprus passport just so i can go to fucking you know the argentina wherever like fuck bro like i'll drop fucking three million for a cyprus passport just so i can go to fucking you know the argentina wherever the fuck people go on these whimsical jet center vacations and then one other scam that i hadn't really thought about uh but people somebody who's like a uh political historian uh for nbc tweeted the question of like where will President Donald Trump's presidential library be located and obviously there's a whole whole host of responses somebody created a fake website that had like stuff like the alt-right auditorium and like just very detailed layout of what his uh oh shit all the renderings are amazing and just very detailed layout of what his libraries are going to look like.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Oh, shit. Oh, the renderings are amazing. Yeah, the renderings are pretty detailed. And like a COVID-19 victim reflection pond where you can reflect on all the victims of that disease. It's just a mirror where it has an outline of Trump's hair, so when you look at it, you can just kind of frame your face with Trump's hair. He would really have that in his library though.
Starting point is 01:08:07 The victim reflection pond is a mirror for him. It's not a fucking anything. Can I say that his library would probably be the most fun of all the presidential libraries because I bet you there would be like a bar in that bitch. You could probably score some Adderall. Get anything over there.
Starting point is 01:08:28 So that's something like I had always heard of presidential libraries i knew they were a thing i didn't realize they just happened like starting in the 20th century because fdr like they needed to store his presidential papers like all the papers he left behind and so they were like yeah we'll do a library where you can like look through all of his shit and like from there it ballooned into this thing where now it's just like a propaganda it's like a disney attraction that is a propaganda wing for like how that president wanted to view their own presidency like richard richard nixon uh up until uh a few years ago had like his account of the watergate scandal was a coup perpetrated by his rivals um at the nixon library um you can visit like the hater section it's just like all the cia yeah exactly it's kind of a great scam that you just like get to create an entire like physical
Starting point is 01:09:28 location that is just a propaganda like disney attraction like reagan has a whole air hangar with like his air force one have you been like a bunch of the helicopter no i haven't it's like a trip you take i remember i think when i was like seven or some shit. Or sometime in the 90s. I was like, what is this fucking thing? It's in California, right? Yeah. They're so dangerous. It's just, that's a huge issue with American history is we love some propaganda in America.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Like, I've said it a million times. Like, we rewrite history all the time. And it does have an effect on what people see and what people think of this country so it's not great that donald trump's presidential library will probably paint a huge difference i bet you there's no acknowledgement to covet i bet you it just didn't happen it's like yeah no that'll be because it already is way more of a donald trump style like bullshit machine than i had realized like with the like they even took a irish pub that ronald and nancy reagan had like stopped in and had a beer in they took that and like just cart like broke it down broke the irish pub down in ireland put it in boxes sent it to california and rebuilt
Starting point is 01:10:46 the pub and then like put the glasses that they drank out of like under like museum glass so you can't touch it you can just like see it it's very strange it's like a did the pub want that what if you were a pub owner and one day they just came and was like look we actually need this for the presidential library so y'all ain't got a pub no more i day they just came and was like, look, we actually need this for the presidential library. So y'all ain't got a pub no more. I'm like, you need it for what? The president? This is my fucking pub.
Starting point is 01:11:11 What the fuck are you talking about? There's a bartender still in there. Like, what the fuck is happening? He's wiping down an invisible counter. It's not there anymore. It's just force of habit. Remember when you served that Heineken to that old white man? Yeah, so now we need your business who was that guy he did a he did a really offensive irish accent when he was in here too
Starting point is 01:11:31 nah come on that that guy great actor he would nail an irish accent right but that's also a flex when you could like brute force be like i want that thing here now right i don't care like break the fucking pub down and crate it and ship it here and then rebuild it in simi fucking valley now that we have what is undoubtedly going to be our worst ex-president in the history of the presidency like it the idea that ex-presidents get to be like the kid from the toy where he's just like, give me that person, bring them here now, is pretty wild. And probably going to backfire in the way that everything about this dude's presidency has shown America's ass to the world. He's going to be like, i want an animatronic section like have you like you know historical reenactments so i want a big version of me
Starting point is 01:12:30 and i'm fucking ripping hillary's head off and i'm punching it into the sea like literally 2016 election would that surprise you would that surprise you at all then we'll have another section with robert muller where i pants him and you can see how weird his butt is and everyone laughs. And then that'll be the Russia investigation. It's like I feel like he would go that far to just completely just wholesale be like, that was the Russia investigation? You pantsing Robert Mueller and laughing at his weird butt? It's on a plaque. The Hall of Presidents is just him like 20 different times taking credit for ending slavery and everything other presidents did, just in different ways.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Yeah, you know Barack is not going to be in there either. No, no. Oh, no, it's Trump in blackface? Yeah, yeah. Being the Barack Obama one? You know he's been dying to do that. Yeah, look at me. Oh, jeez.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Lacey, as always, so fun having you. Where can people find you and follow you? Oh, you can find me on the interwebs at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I, Diva Lacey on all platforms. If you want to listen to my podcast, if you like scams and comedy, Scam Goddess Podcast, anywhere that you get your podcasts. I don't think I can talk about anything else. Am Goddess Podcast, anywhere that you get your podcasts. I don't think I can talk about anything else. Oh, all the episodes of ABC's The Con should be out,
Starting point is 01:13:51 and I'm a talking head on that show, which is a scam in and of itself. But it's fun. Watch The Con on ABC. And, Lacey, is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes, there's a couple tweets I've been enjoying. Okay, here's one from Anastase Ha. She says, My 8-year-old in the car today. Do you want me to throw the confetti in my pocket?
Starting point is 01:14:08 Me, no, not in the car. Why do you have confetti in your pocket? Eight-year-old, it's my emergency confetti. I carry it everywhere in case there's good news. That is, I want to adopt that as a personal policy that rules. I was like, I love this child. Okay, we've got one from Juicy B underscore 25. Credit Karma, you're on a roll now.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Experian, know to fuck you not. And then I have to end with my own tweet, which is, did y'all make ashtrays in the third grade art or are y'all not from Texas? Wait, that was a thing for real ashtray for that i made that too really we made ashtrays west virginia damn that i guess over here we uh we made our own little zen rock gardens yeah wow that sounds like no i don't know shit no we did fucked up shit like you're like we're making Native American buckskin art.
Starting point is 01:15:06 And it was like, bring in a brown paper bag to crumple it up. And then you'll have the texture of a deer skin. And then drew wild problematic stick figures. And then we'll pretend to be Native Americans. So still as problematic, but just well-intentioned? Yeah, I guess so. Which, that's California. That's basically California.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Exactly. Because I didn't come home with something tangible. at least you guys had a tangible ashtray like i came with like floppy old you know garbage bag and my mom's like the fuck is this well it was just a art project to give an excuse for them to give you your first pack of cigarettes and second grade right they're like make the little divots to hold the cigarettes like Like, they didn't say that, but you were pinching it. You knew what it was for. They're like, well, does daddy or mommy smoke cigars? Because based on how big this notch is, that would be a cojiba, I would think.
Starting point is 01:15:55 But okay. Miles, where can people find you, follow you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, man. Twitter, Instagram, Miles of of gray and then the other podcast 420 day fiance uh and a tweet i like is from uh at molly lambert saying you would think more people would be stoked to cancel thanksgiving uh because it is all kinds of mixed mixed emotions around the holiday because like i mean i get it i think it's i think
Starting point is 01:16:25 on one level you'd maybe don't like the having to get your shit together to go to thanksgiving but at the end of the day like if you you know have a decent relationship with your family you like just laying down and eating and screaming from my couch all day so same but i do we're doing thanksgiving on zoom uh because my aunties are determined to shade me they're like no no no we will be asking you why you're not married on a holiday so they're like so you're on tv multiple times you have all these successes and you're still what's so what's going on lacy why y'all had old man are they trying to solve your life like are they trying to ask you like really specific questions like well how do you do your hair when you go out no listen it'd be like that they were like when you go to the grocery store do you look cute
Starting point is 01:17:06 i was like why they were like grocery store on tuesdays and fridays all the men be in there i was like okay like tuesdays and fridays wow so specific it's a universal constant is that all the hot guys are there uh so ladies there you. Pull up to Whole Foods if you want one with its own place. Hey. Or they're smart and they live with their parents. Also, Zeitgang, it's time for the holidays, which means you gotta lace your loved ones in the finest
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Starting point is 01:18:19 What? She said, the Dow. I follow the stock market now, parentheses, in New York. She said, okay, question mark. And then you sent her a link to isthedowuptoday.com. Helpful finance website if you ever want to invest your personal finances bullishly, parentheses, aggressively. Her, did you need something?
Starting point is 01:18:43 Dividends, lol. What the stock market pays you for being in it. And then she says, be honest. Do you have over $10,000 in the stock market? He says, I have roughly $94 heavily diversified. He's like, I have an Acorns app. I love damn white, man. That dude cracks me the fuck up.
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Starting point is 01:19:27 oh we shall ride on into this holiday season with a track aptly titled what i want the most and it's by diamond cafe who is an artist i believe i want to say Canada, maybe? Yes. Multi-instrumentalist Tristan Thompson. Not that one. Word? Yeah, not that one. Not that one. The vibes of this album is, like, dope. It's, like, I'm presuming it's somewhat modern, but it's got, like, good, like, Prince sort of R&B feel to it.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Ooh. It's definitely, like, some, you know, get your old folks robe on uh it's like type music and i think some people don't know so yeah check this out diamond cafe what i want the most i'm just looking here and it does not look like diamond cafe was nominated for a grammy yesterday so uh i'm not gonna listen uh i'm gonna turn off the show before that because i i get all my musical cues from the super relevant musical taste of the Grammys. They always get it right. They're always nailing it, right?
Starting point is 01:20:31 Especially with Beyonce. Yes. They're like, oh, okay. That's like the dude who you say has a nice shirt on and he wears it every day for the rest of the year. They know that Beyonce is cool, so they just nominate her over and over again. That was like, but don't give it to her. Snub lemonade from Beck's album.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Of course not. I'll never forget that shit, but I love Beck, but fuck that. Fuck that, though, yeah. Also,
Starting point is 01:20:56 it's interesting. Who do you think is, I mean, when you listen, you'll tell me who the more talented Canadian Tristan Thompson is. Wait, Tristan Thompson, the basketball player is Canadian too? Yeah, he was born in Toronto. Yep. Toronto.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Toronto. Oh, he's Toronto? Yeah. Alright. Well, the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you list your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to talk some Thanksgiving-related trends.
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