The Daily Zeitgeist - Laws = Low Approval Ratings, John Krasinski Was ROBBED! 12.7.18

Episode Date: December 7, 2018

In episode 289, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Kyle Ayers to discuss Trump blaming Mueller for his low approval rating, Trump eyeing his new attorney general, Tucker Carlson coming for Trump, S...audi Arabia helping out Trump's hotels, Golden Globe nominations, Kevin Hart's twitter controversy, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Trump blames Mueller probe for low approval rating, calling it 'presidential harassment'2. Trump eyes ex-Bush 41 attorney general to succeed Sessions3. Tucker Carlson: Trump is not capable4. At President Trump’s hotel in New York, revenue went up this spring — thanks to a visit from big-spending Saudis5. Saudi-funded lobbyist paid for 500 rooms at Trump’s hotel after 2016 election6. Golden Globe Nominations: Complete List7. Oscar Host Kevin Hart's History of Anti-Gay Tweets Creates New Problem for Academy8. Jason Saenz GoFundMe9. WATCH: Lulu Be. - Rude Tings (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to i heart true crime plus only on apple podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 60 episode 5 of two daily zeitgeist yeah the podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness using the headlines box office reports tv ratings what's trending on Googs and social meds. It's Friday, December 7th, 2018. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Zeitgang Riot. Riot. Smash the patriarchy with facts. Zeitgang Riot. Riot. Get the truth with Miles and Jack. Oh. Courtesy of Serious Black on Twitter
Starting point is 00:02:45 And I'm thrilled to be joined as always By my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Ay ay ay ay Smoke weed Miles Gray Alright and that's that That was a short but sweet one And it worked well in Chicago So you know what I brought it back
Starting point is 00:03:01 A.K.A. brought to you by I think a lot of people But anyway yeah I smoke weed every day Yeah well you know what i brought it back aka brought to you by i think a lot of people but anyway yeah i smoke weed every day man it's recycled shit yeah well you know sometimes you just got to do some reboots one thing i learned from hollywood that's what they call them uh rebooted that aka well we're thrilled to be bringing back for i think the second time and he was one of our earliest guests in this very studio mr kyle ayers thank you for having me again all right yeah a lot of people i remember when you came on they're you for having me again. Yeah, a lot of people. I remember when you came on, they're like, bring him back.
Starting point is 00:03:27 See? Well, I have a lot of alt accounts like Kevin Durant, so it was just mostly a lot of feedback from myself. Oh, well, great. No wonder. Kyle, how you been? I'm pretty good. You know, pretty good. Has it been a year?
Starting point is 00:03:40 It maybe has. No, I think you're here in April. In April. Or something like that. I don't know how years work. Time is no longer real. Thank you. I don't know if it ever technically was, but it hasn't been real since I read an article about it not being real.
Starting point is 00:03:53 So how can I be late to work, Jack? I feel like that's going viral right now. The idea that time isn't real. And then Yoko Ono tweeted about it. Oh, yeah. And Deepak Chopra. We heard him say earlier today when we were at a reading of his. Chatting with Deepak. Man-made construct. For time not being real, it sure is exhausting to hear people talk to you about time not being real. How long have I, can I check my watch during
Starting point is 00:04:15 this? Why? Because it's real? Because it isn't. All right. We're going to. What kind of watch you got on there? Oh, this is a Boliva. Wow. And what happened was my father in Missouri likes to send me watches he gets at estate sales very cheap. Oh, nice. And he's like, you can do whatever with it. And this one wasn't working, and I took the back off yesterday, legitimately yesterday. I took the back off of this watch yesterday, and I cleaned a spring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And then I took the spring out and cleaned under it, brought it back, and now it works. Wait, are you like a watch enthusiast? No. This is the first time I ever, I had to Google how to open it. Oh, okay. Oh, shit. So you just did some old. I was like, worst case scenario, it doesn't work still.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Right. Right. But now it works. Well, caught my eye. It's pretty cool. It has to, I had to wind it for so long to change the day, because it was on the ninth, and I had to go all the way around. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. Do you have good fine motor skills? Like you're able to, would you make a good surgeon? I do. I used to, no. I don't have the value of life that they might have. Well, I think maybe a surgeon might have to have disregard for life. Yeah, they don't give a shit about you.
Starting point is 00:05:12 You have too much pressure on the line. You don't have too much presh. But no, I had to fix the computers at the Apple store, and they got really good with tiny screws. Oh, no wonder. Okay. I wasn't sure if you had like a meth addiction. You'd like to bust shit open and see how it works.
Starting point is 00:05:24 No, meth people like break it open and then replace the springs with celery. Now it really doesn't work. Do you know how old that watch is? Again, I'm sorry. I do know. It's from 1967. Okay. I looked it up because it says on the band is definitely different.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Looks like a 67 you were saying, huh, Jack? Yeah, yeah. You could tell by the tread on the tires. And then I just Googled the little words on there and saw the watch. Well, guys, if you need a watch repairman, get up your boy. I can definitely refer you to Yelp. Stand-up comic watch repairman. It's in the other order if you're talking about recent successes.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Just do a whole set on watch repairs. All right, man. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners what we're going to be talking about today. We're going to talk about Trump blaming Mueller for his low approval ratings. So it turns out he was aware of his low approval ratings all this time. And he still gave himself an A+++. We're going to talk about his rumored pick for his new attorney general, which is probably the most shocking pick he could have had because it's like straight down the middle. It's not Judge Judy or anyone. Judge Judy.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Come on. Don't bring Judge Judy into this. Right. We're going to talk about American individualism and just a weird theory that we were talking about earlier. And Tucker Carlson. All of that and the Golden Globe nominees on today's Daily Zeitgeist. Kyle, first, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So this is what I searched yesterday is Mr. Robot over slash coming back?
Starting point is 00:07:06 There you go. What did you find? I guess it's over. Oh, yeah? It's over? What, was it three seasons? There's no announced anything. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I don't know. I didn't find enough. I wasn't sure if I had seen it. I think I watched all of it, or maybe I'm on season one. I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know what's happening in it, and I tried to find out where I had left off. And there was no way to differentiate between any of the episodes.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I had the hardest time. I realized I had just finished the second season like last year or something. And when we were flying back from Chicago, I was downloading stuff. I was like, oh, right, the new Mr. Robot. And I was having so much trouble remembering like I really don't know where I'm at in this F society. Is it? Yeah. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I watched Homecoming and then saw that the guy who made Homecoming had directed all of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the same. And then I just couldn't really figure out where I had left off with Mr. Robot. And then I don't still not sure if it's over forever or not. And how many seasons of Mr. Robot have there been?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Three, maybe four. And was the third one good? I haven't seen it yet. Okay. I don't know. I couldn't even begin to tell you where I quit watching. Homecoming is getting raves, as we call them in this town. Raves, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's a great, great thing. Raves. Yeah, people brought their glow sticks out, their JNCO jeans. Golden Globe conversation. Everyone in the show is named Molly. Right. There you go. What is something that you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:08:33 Overrated. So I had to write all mine down because I'm not good at remembering. Oh, no. Please. I think, and this is a recent turn for me, I think it is overrated to hate on astrology. Okay. Wow. I don't know if I believe in astrology.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I don't think I do, but I think it's kind of a – it's just like, what do you – yeah, sure. You don't believe it. Just leave it alone. And also, I wear the same shirt every week to watch the Chiefs play football. So I can't really be like, oh, you believe the stars influence you? No, no. My shirt influences young men. And every time I wash it, the football will move in another direction.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I got mad for not wearing the shirt in the Chiefs loss. That was my first thought when the Chiefs loss was I wore the wrong shirt, which isn't, but then I also will be like, oh, you can't believe in astrology. You don't control that. Right. But also I control sports. Well, what's your sign? I am a Gemini.
Starting point is 00:09:24 You're a Gemini. Oh. Yeah. People like to make that sound if you have any sign. People say that. Yeah, exactly. Well, what's your sign? I am a Gemini. You're a Gemini. Oh. Yeah, people like to make that sound if you have any sign. People say that. Yeah, exactly. Ooh. Ooh, you were born in the same sort of Gregorian. Well, I want to tell you, Susan Miller has two big surprises for you, and she's bursting to tell you about both.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Okay. She can tell you about the first surprise, but the second one, you have to wait another 10 days. I don't even know. That's a hook. We're going to start paying. What? I'm having fun using captivated photos of my people.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Anyway, I guess it just says, this will be an extraordinary month for you, Kyle. Perhaps the most memorable of the year. Jupiter has now set up shop in your seventh house of marriage and partnership, making Gemini the sign most likely to marry in 2019 or to gain from business-based collaborations in the coming year. I like that.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I like it. You will either get married or do some business stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of the way you have to make a decision. Yeah, big spread there. That's a really good point, though, about sports, because I absolutely am a skeptic when it comes to astrology and most religious things.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. But the second I start watching sports that I care about, I'm like, okay, so when I'm not watching, they do better. So I can't watch, even though that defeats the whole purpose of being a fan of sports. Sports superstition is a hybrid of religion and astrology. Right. It's just like
Starting point is 00:10:36 that on a very focused down level. You want to know why religion exists? I'm surprised nobody has exploited that mental weakness yet. Right. Like to be like the Scientologist of like sports fans. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You've devised like a... Whatever Philip Rivers does after he retires will be something along those lines. He already has a big enough family to all sign in. Right. But I mean, the reason that I think it comes up in sports so much and the reason that it hasn't been exploited is because it can't really be exploited. You literally never know what's going to happen next. It can't be really controlled. You mean like life?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Right. Well, but specifically sports is like a very hyper-focused version. Yeah, I agree with you, but no. Specifically sports. Yes, but no. Yes, but no is my general. No, that was good, but wrong. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It was a good attempt. Yeah, thank you. What is something you think is underrated, Kyle? Underrated, underrated. Okay, this one is very dumb. I think it's underrated to have a cool name for your fans. Okay. I was doing some shows in Denver a couple weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:11:42 and there was a comedian there who kept calling himself a deadhead because he's in The Grateful Dead. That's so cool. Yeah. I think bands, you should have to make your band name to where your fans can have a cool name if they like you.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah. Because my initial reaction was like, he was like, I was talking to him, like none of the bands I like, all like sad indie bands, have cool fan names. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And so I was like, I like The National, and it's like, well, you can't have a, you can't. I can't be like, I'm a nationalist. That's my fan name. It's not good. It's going to get the wrong followers. I'm a Nash.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So I need like Deadheads is such a cool name. Nasher. And there needs to be an equivalent Nasher. That sounds like you're into like up and coming country music. Yeah, yeah. Or potatoes. No, it sucks. You're right.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Or Nash Bridges. Someone who still follows. You're right. Or Nash Bridges. Someone who still follows Nash Bridges. Follows Nash Bridges. I'm a Nasher. I haven't got the last VHS yet, but once I get it. Yeah. Once you get that thing working.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Did you put it back together at your VCR and you figure out how that works? I probably, I tinkered a VCR to work once in college. Just I wanted to watch some, you know, be cool and watch a movie on a VCR. It was not worth it.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I could have downloaded a way better quality of a movie. What resolution is this? Yeah, exactly. 120? Yeah. A Nolman. But I think everyone should have to have. A Nolman?
Starting point is 00:12:55 What is that? National men. Oh. Oh. Yeah. I thought that's someone who voids marriages. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Right. I'm terrible at this, but I think that their name in particular sucks at that. Well, we lucked out with Zeitgang, so we'll just leave it there. See, that's great. Zeitgang. Everything needs to have a fan base. Yeah, you got to have an identity. I wanted to be Death Cab for cute boys, but it sounded like the anti-proud boy, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Right. But, you know, then the music might fall to the wayside for political gain. Right. It's hard. What about your fans? What do you want to call them? I just want to call them. Text them, email them.
Starting point is 00:13:29 It doesn't matter. Some sort of engagement situation. Yeah, just put a do a Twitter poll. I don't know. Heirs Heads is all right. Yeah, that's real good. Because it sounds like that movie. Love that.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Oh, that movie is fucking fantastic. And the candy. And the candy. I love my friends have a mystery white mouth. Right. Maybe not. And finally candy. I love my friends have a mystery white mouth. Right. Maybe not. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:13:51 I think a myth that some people believe is true is that driving for Lyft or Uber is a decent profession. I did it for a little while. It's not a good way to make any money. Yeah. I hope your show isn't sponsored by Lyft or something. No, no. They won't touch us. Uber.
Starting point is 00:14:08 We've been waiting, but they keep circling the block. Hey. I did it for a little while, and people would always be like, oh, I hear that's great. I hear it's pretty good. I did it. I don't have a vehicle here, and they would rent you a vehicle. Well, there's your first problem. There's my first problem.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah, I was walking around. I was like, hey, you guys want some help getting somewhere? Hop on my back, man. Just you, though was walking around. I was like, hey, you guys want to help getting somewhere? Hop on my back, man. Just you, though. And it would just be very, very difficult.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It would start off great, and they incentivize early on driving. And so that's why it's like friends I knew who told me it could be good were
Starting point is 00:14:36 like a month in. And they were like, you do it this month, it pays pretty good. And for like two weeks, it was decent enough, and it was nice, and it was my
Starting point is 00:14:43 own hour. All the stuff here would be good. But then there's a huge drop off, and I was nice, and it was my own hour. All the stuff here would be good. But then there's a huge drop-off, and I can't imagine if it was actually my personal car with the toll that happens to the car, the cost of gas, the upkeep for the vehicle. You're looking minimum wage with hard, weird hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so just the amount of people who – I did it for maybe three weeks. And the people were like, oh, yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:15:06 You can get pretty good from that. And plus they're so – their PR stuff is so like in your face over and over and over again. And it is just – and maybe people are listening who it's a – I get it being a decent secondary or necessary, but I don't think it could actually – it doesn't seem to be a feasible profession, especially with gas prices. Yeah, well, I think – what state actually just guaranteed like certain wages that new york city yeah for uber drivers new york city yeah because i think that's one of the biggest holes in it is like with the gig economy is like there are so many other expenses that go along with that yeah that's why even i mean with even like we do with comedy and stuff people be like oh my god you got that for a weekend it's like yeah but I had to get there.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I had to do this. I eat every day. You know what I mean? Right. There's every little cost to getting around. What do you eat? I had to get to and from the airport. Like that's just – that's $100.
Starting point is 00:15:53 That's $100. Yeah. It all – it is – I think Lyft and Uber are just such a quintessential example of the flaws of gig economy. Yeah. I had no idea they did the like pay you more during the first month. They do, yeah. Because they want to get you hooked. It's like of gig economy. Yeah, I had no idea they did the pay you more during the first month. They do, yeah, because they want to get you hooked. It's like a drug dealer. And I even, a friend referred me and he got a dollar for each ride
Starting point is 00:16:12 I did and would just split that with me and that starts to add up a little bit, but it's still, you know, all these little things to make you feel like you're doing good until you've put off being able to do anything else and you're doing this. And then they want you to drive bizarre hours, never accumulating, like never successive hours, just like two now and then four later.
Starting point is 00:16:32 It's bizarre. Well, I think that's the next step is for those jobs to actually be worthwhile. It's like we have to get them unionized in some way and have some kind of standard practice for how everyone is compensated. A lot of the drivers that I met in my class were switching from Uber to Lyft. I only drove for Lyft because it was even worse. They were talking about when they started, it was like $40 an hour doing it. And they're like, this is good because the upkeep on my car,
Starting point is 00:17:00 I basically am paying twice the upkeep per year for a car, and its lifespan is half because no one drives their car that much. Right, yeah, that much. But then they just cut it a little bit every month and a little bit every month and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they give you like bizarre incentives you can't make. Right. If you do 112 rides this week and it's like, well, one ride could be an hour.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah, right. So I'm probably not going to work 150 hours this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I mean, this goes back to just things we've talked about on this show but it's very like it goes back to you know regulations and shit like that like they yeah the way that they chose to look at uber and lyft is they are companies that provide software essentially right and then you can use it in your car for make money. They're not an employer. They technically have to get the government to recognize them as non-employers, but as like providers of a software, I think is at least how they were getting around it in the first place.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Right. So yeah, if they're looked at as an employer, now in come the regulations. Right. Exactly. And then they won't make infinity money immediately off the backs of labor. Exactly. All right. Burn it down. Yeah. Honestly, it sounds like
Starting point is 00:18:11 I might have described this season of Mr. Robot I think. When I'm going through the whole thing, I'm like, what is this? This all sounds specific.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I did drive around in a Guy Fawkes mask. Nice. That could have been part of your problem. But tip your Lyft drivers and your Uber drivers. One out of 60 people tip. Really? got a tip man motherfuckers and that's the only money that
Starting point is 00:18:31 i think a lot of it too i mean at the very i get how some people look if it's a cheaper option then you're like i don't know if you know you don't want to add whatever to the cost but if you ever worked off tips like you know like i think most of us have in here you know the value of the tip to the person who's receiving it you're like yeah like, I'm not going to fuck you over. I've got to give you something. Specifically for Los Angeles, but here's how a very broad strokes breakdown of how it works. So if I was driving someone from Hollywood to LAX airport,
Starting point is 00:18:56 that ride probably cost them about $35. From around Hollywood to LAX, about $35. I would probably make $17 of that, and then that would be taxed down to maybe around $12, and then the drive would probably take an hour and 15 minutes. And then every cost, you know, the gas is probably $1.50. So you're looking at about, I would make $9 to $10 an hour doing stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Hit that tip, though. But if you hit it, even if it's $0.50, if people give you $0.50, I'd rate it. That's nice yeah the other fun way that this service has affected people is the drivers who already existed in these towns and not the like taxi cab companies were like the most up and up well-run institutions but a lot of people who had invested money in like a taxi cab in new york city oh i know a taxi cab medallion is like a quarter of a million dollars yeah they just you're paying it off over your whole life yeah it's they i've almost got fucked twice and having to have pay
Starting point is 00:19:55 for the medallion and then having it become irrelevant yeah and there was a long new york times series i think about these taxi drivers drivers who a lot of them were killing themselves. Who got in and realized... Yeah, then Uber came in and they're like, what did I... But I mean, you'd be splitting a cab with three or four other drivers. Right. Yeah, I mean, think about... I'm sure that at least has something to do with why we're actually getting
Starting point is 00:20:18 regulation in New York City is there's a little bit more visibility and they have some of the best journalists in the world in that city reporting on the local news. Meanwhile, poor L.A. just has us. I know. Sorry, L.A. Well, I hope I can break the story.
Starting point is 00:20:31 If some of you have never heard of Lyft or Uber, it's a ride-sharing app. Exactly. This is what people come to us for. If you want $5 off a ride, please use my code. This is actually the worst branded content ever. Yeah, and this was brought to you by Lyft. I didn't mean to harp on them so much
Starting point is 00:20:45 because also I don't have a car out here so I take them everywhere. I absolutely go but I think that it just is nice to have some awareness about how much a little bit of a tip can go because that's the only thing
Starting point is 00:20:54 where 100% of it will go to an employee. Yeah. So if you like to help employees more than companies. Right. Exactly. All right. We're going to take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:21:01 We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now the situation is desperate my name is Manuel Delia I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:24:45 going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. and we're back and a couple quick trump points up top he is claiming that muller is to blame for his low approval ratings that makes sense yeah because he's trump because muller's making him look bad yeah yeah yeah is that what the deal is yeah man claims that awareness of how he's doing is reason people think he's not doing well. Yeah. He refers to it as presidential harassment. Actually, his tweet was, it's called presidential harassment, exclamation point, as though that were a preexisting concept before he like –
Starting point is 00:25:41 Did he capitalize P and H? Right. It's a proper noun. Oh, you know he did. Yeah, it's a proper noun that I just invented. Yeah. Well, what is his- Wait, what's his full tweet exactly?
Starting point is 00:25:50 My approval rating would be 75% rather than the 50% just reported by Rasmussen, which is also way too high. It's called presidential harassment. Yeah, okay. Well, you know, that's fine. I got to give Rasmussen a shout out for always being Rasputin when I say it in my head. Yeah. And still just drooping through.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. I think I've called it Rasputin in my head every time I've ever read it. Yeah. Rasputin, I think, sounds like a roster version of Vladimir Putin. Yeah. Like Rasputin. Oh, it's Rasputin. Yeah, Rasputin coming through.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Dreadlocks. He would be way more chill shirtless on that horse with some nice weird blonde dreads, Ras Putin coming through. Dreadlocks. He would be way more chill shirtless on that horse with some nice weird blonde dreads, thinning dreads. Well, you know, again, I think with this whole Trump nonsense, it's funny too. The whole presidential harassment
Starting point is 00:26:38 thing is just the brand of the GOP right now. Just find unique ways to make yourself a victim. So in this case, we're calling oversight presidential harassment. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Well, yeah, it's a shame what laws will do to you.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You know what I mean? Right. Gets the fez on you. Yeah. It is very bizarre. It's also the ultimate move of accuse your opponent of being what you are the entire time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:03 We were talking about that this weekend. Yeah. Just I want to be played liberals of victims, liberals of victims, you are the entire time. Yeah, we were talking about that this weekend. Yeah, just I want to be played liberals are the victims, liberals are the victims, you're the victims, and then immediately it's this is presidential harassment because he's seeing what I've done. Right. And telling people that. And telling people. And he's not even really telling us.
Starting point is 00:27:17 How? He's releasing a thousand pages and letting us read? We have to read to find out. That's how bad it is. He usually doesn't even, I don't think he's ever even acknowledged his bad approval ratings before. No, I know. Or if he does, it's like, that's fake news because this is what it really is. That's the shocking thing is that this suggests that he has been aware all along of what a shitty job he's doing.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Or. Which. Or. Or he doesn't know how numbers work. No, that he's such a baby that motherfuckers have to keep polls away from him sometimes because he's in his Fox News bubble. And he's like, what are you guys laughing at over there? Oh, nothing, Mr. President. Put the fucking shit away.
Starting point is 00:27:53 No, I want to see it. No, no, it's fine. What the fuck is this? No, that is for certain. Oh, what the fuck? You know what I mean? Yeah, there's reporting from inside the White House that they specifically curate his media diet on a daily basis to just things that are going to be agreeable. It's nice that they curate at least one of his diets.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Right. If it's just the media one, that's okay. There's no fish fillet news that's going to get across his plate. Right. Because early on in his presidency, he was getting furious because he was watching CNN. And so they realized if the TV stays on Fox, we have easier days. I will always think everything is just an equivalent of the, no, there were more people at my inauguration. Yeah. Everything is just a blown up or a scaled down version of, here's a photo of people and him saying, no, it isn't. There are more people than in this picture.
Starting point is 00:28:40 He would have been the great uniter if that hadn't blown up. I think, you know, exactly. He would have been the great uniter if that hadn't blown up and sent us down this path. Yeah, exactly. That was just such a strong first public statement from the administration. We should have known. What's his name? Dug in. Spicer.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Sean Spicer. If you asked me how long ago that was, I would say 40 years, 2017. I would say four score in seven years. Yes. He was just dug in and like, period. It was the biggest. Full stop. I mean, every single thing that happens, it seems like, I mean, we were talking about how it seemed like a year, but I was here in April.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah. But it seems so, everything is so tiring and time seems to be so slow. Yeah. And months, I have no idea when news stories happen relative to other news stories or what is important because things disappear so fast. That should be the biggest thing that's ever happened. It's like a been a slow zoom out. Yeah. Like we've been seeing the same things and then we're now just seeing how more and more they're intertwined and connected and just how bad something actually is. Yeah. So you're also like getting a new perspective on things like as they operated, when things were working, like now yeah no matter what
Starting point is 00:29:46 i will have less respect for the white house press briefing uh yeah because of just what a complete fucking satirical mockery they've made of the white house press briefing like yeah fuck that like yeah i think sometimes about you remember when days would go by and you were didn't wonder or know what the president did for like three days? Like, oh, he's in France? Oh, cool. Good for him. Days.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Like two or three days would go by without seeing anything. Yeah, like if you didn't pay attention to politics, it was like having like a child that was well-behaved. Then you didn't have to monitor it all the time because he was doing his homework and doing all the assignments. And now it's like, what's Donald getting into in there? Exactly. I smell smoke. I smell fire up there. False.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah, false. These are just light flames. But he has been paying attention to the media. Another thing that was reported by people who spend time in the White House is that he gets uncomfortable when his name is not in the media, isn't like a headline. And he is getting super itchy these past couple of days as George H.W. Bush's funeral has sort of dominated the news for basically like a week. Sucking up all the oxygen. Yeah. And very inconsiderate of him, if I might add.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, exactly. H.W. And Trump has basically behaved himself because he's kind of gotten the sense that it would be a bad look for him with literally everyone. Well, what, he had like three straight terrible weeks or four straight terrible weeks. So he probably, in a way, was like, I kind of like this, just for a second. Yeah, take the heat off. But he's so into all this good pub that Bush 41 is getting that he is now looking at people from his administration to bring in uh that that's my loose theory i was so certain you were going to be like he is he loves the good publicity w is
Starting point is 00:31:31 getting that now he wishes his dad was alive so his dad could die so he could give a eulogy yes but god maybe you imagine a eulogy delivered by him and like how just the maybe 15 seconds of hope before he brought it back around to himself. Oh, yeah. I get infuriated seeing media things where they call him well-behaved because he didn't have an outcry at a funeral of a president. Right. Because he didn't freak out and people were like, is this a new leaf?
Starting point is 00:31:59 And you're like, I don't know. No, not really. Leaves are big. You know, they have points and stuff. There's a clip of everyone reading the Apostles' Creed at the funeral, and they're like, here's your evangelical president. He wasn't even looking. No, he was just staring at nothing and looking around. Bored.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Good question. Well, yeah. But anyways. William Barr? Yeah, it's looking like he's going to pick William Barr, or at least he's the leading candidate, who is a former attorney general under President George H.W. Bush and is emerging as a consensus candidate to succeed Jeff Sessions, which is shockingly just right down the middle of a choice. Like that's a normal president. That's a normal. But he's in the past, though, Barr does fit the bill because he's kind of said like, well, you know, if you wanted to probe
Starting point is 00:32:43 Clinton allegations that could be all right, and also has criticized Mueller. Yeah, I think that just where the center is has just shifted so far to – But, yeah, to give him credit or whatever, he said like when it came to the Clinton thing, it was just sort of saying like I don't see a problem with the president calling for the investigation just so long as it's – just because he wants it. Right. So I guess he's – he might be just slick enough to be like, look, I'll take the job. But I don't know, just enough nice things to say that will be music to his ears.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's a weird time to jump on the ship. Yeah. And it's not like he's a perfect, you know, like anybody's going to like him in the end. He's a super hard line, pro executive executive power this is just where it's at though if it's anyone with any experience who can be seen as neutral or even just quiet yeah they were like good for him not picking like his neighbor or something right or a guy with a gun avatar on twitter right for him for not making a poll online to have someone again it's the extremely low expectations we have for trump that we're like,
Starting point is 00:33:46 he picked a quiet person who seems like he's done the job before. That's amazing. Since some of his other, multiple of his other picks were racist cowboy. Yeah. So now we're meeting back over here. Or Huckleberry Hound.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So it seems like he might be quiet in the way that Dick Cheney was quiet, like terrifying. Yeah, you see him in the way that Dick Cheney was quiet, like terrifying. Yeah, just in the back. Yeah, just scheming. Just like at George H.W. Bush's funeral. Dick Cheney was scheming in the row behind them. It's incredible, too, that Dick Cheney is alive.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah. I don't want to say good for him, but it's good for only him. Good for him and only him. He just wants to see this biopic, I think. Yeah. He wants to see how Christian biopic, I think. Yeah. He wants to see how Christian Bale pulls it off. I feel like he's going to be disappointed. I bet he's one of these guys who watches the first 75% of every movie, and then he'll leave
Starting point is 00:34:34 and be like, I did pretty good. And like, I don't have to see how that wrapped up. Let's talk about Tucker Carlson, you guys. Finally. You saw my tattoo? Yeah. Tuck gang. It's been a while
Starting point is 00:34:45 since oh we go by tuck fins yeah tuck fins we just want an excuse to say the n-word right hey it's in the book man I'm reading it out loud
Starting point is 00:34:54 I'm reading it out loud my teacher read it in 7th grade I don't want to put her on blast but boy did she just read it out loud like we wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:35:00 been able to follow had she not she didn't even read the other words that was the crazy part. The rest of it was silent reading. We can just call him Jim. You know, James is even good.
Starting point is 00:35:10 He works. But Tugger Carlson is, you know, basically the world's wimpiest white nationalist. But he gave an interesting interview to a Swiss magazine where he basically gives Trump an F in presidenting. Yeah. Well, this – it's funny. I didn't – as you read the thing, you realize, dude, Tucker Carlson like went to some elite boarding school in Switzerland too. And he's like, I got kicked out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And they're like – the beginning of the interview is so weird. He's like, I love the cheese here. Imagine Switzerland taking a stand on you right how much you have to suck for them to be like we actually have thoughts on this they're like well look we'll hold your nazi gold i don't care but i think there's so many of these like really wimpy alt-right guys who don't realize they are the guys the guys they love hate right they are weak they are they all look like thumbs yeah they're not beloved by these guys they cherish as like who are also pieces of shit with these guys that they like look up to
Starting point is 00:36:10 hate them right they hate them they look down on them they bully them everyone's less than these guys they love and tuck he's one of these guys it's just like he has no idea everyone on every side actually dislikes him yeah i mean they were even kind of like tongue-in-cheek i think a little bit with the interview yeah like oh what do you know about Switzerland? It's like how in the movie, there's always all these movies from the 90s where kids are rich, and they don't realize all their friends are only around them because of that. Oh, right. And then
Starting point is 00:36:33 it comes out, and they're like, no, you're bad. We all like each other and hate you. That's how he is. He just has a show or whatever. Right. Well, these quotes, I was surprised because we were talking, I think, earlier in an earlier episode this week about how I'm waiting to see more people on the right begin to be actually critical of the president, like to demonstrate that they're looking at the situation and
Starting point is 00:36:53 can call it for what it is. Now, mind you, this isn't the most scathing thing, but it's part of, I guess, sometimes Tucker Carlson can be somewhat honest, tries not to look like a total sycophant. But in this one, he said his chief promises were that he would build the wall, defund Planned Parenthood and repeal Obamacare. And he hasn't done any of those things. He's like, I don't think he's capable. I don't think he's capable of sustained focus. I don't think he understands the system.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I don't think the Congress is on his side. I don't think his own agencies support him. And he's just not going to do that. Right. I mean, it's not exactly, you know, the most hard line criticism you've ever seen. But at the same time, he's at least acknowledging he's an ineffective idiot. Yeah, he's achieved fuck all. Granted, he is saying that like the way he's arriving at that conclusion is because he hasn't shut down Planned Parenthood and built a wall on the Mexican border.
Starting point is 00:37:45 That's all he's using. But yeah, and then he goes on to say, like, but that might not be his place. Like, he could just be this president that's meant to begin these conversations about xenophobia. Some about an idiot scene that he's been had by a different idiot that I kind of enjoy watching. But then he kind of talks about how Trump just sort of generally doesn't get it at all. So he says, in order to do it, I mean,, like I guess he means effect change in D.C. He's like you really have to understand how it works and you have to be very focused on getting it done. And he knows very little about the legislative process, hasn't learned anything and surrounded himself with people that can't get it done, hasn't done all the things you need to do.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So it's mostly his fault that he hasn't achieved those things. I think he's these people who thought he actually cared about them, blow my mind. I think he's achieving what he wants to achieve, which is he will be richer when he leaves office than when he went into office. Or in jail. Hopefully he's in jail. But you know, all he wants
Starting point is 00:38:37 is to benefit himself, and he's benefiting himself. And now these people are like, where's the wall? He doesn't care about the wall. He cared about the idea of a wall to get elected, to get himself something. And to be honest, I totally don't believe that he thought that Trump was going to be an effective leader as the president. I mean, the guy made the most like glancing references to like, yeah, I'm going to do things for this country.
Starting point is 00:39:01 But the only time he's ever been convincing uh trump is you know talking about how awesome he is like he's yeah you change everything else changes on a day-to-day basis i thought this self-motivated narcissist had my best right thoughts and well i think they maybe thought it could be like a thing where w came in and he had a team around him who knew how to do shit on the hill and he just had to be like these are are my terrible fucking ideas. Or Cheney was like, this is a game plan. But I think maybe they were hoping that he would have that kind of potency. Who would have thought these people would be let down
Starting point is 00:39:33 by this man who had pretty much let down everyone his whole life? Right. So let's talk about the president's hotels. Yeah. Because apparently they are very popular with tourists from a specific nation. Yes. Which one? Saudi Arabia. Oh, I was going to guess that one. Yeah. Interesting. Believe it. Well, yeah. I mean, I think we all know money is the key to this man's clogged heart.
Starting point is 00:39:58 So yeah, the Saudis, I think, realize this, how one dimensional he is, like trying to get, basically putting an arms deal on the table to sort of leverage that for other things. But Mohammed bin Salman's been really helping out the ailing Trump Hotel in New York City. Apparently, like after two years of decline at the Manhattan Hotel, the Trump International, revenue from room rentals went up 13% in the first three months of 2018. Huh. What caused that? A last-minute visit to new york
Starting point is 00:40:26 by the crown prince of saudi arabia wow yeah wow but of course muhammad bin salman will not be caught dead at a trump hotel that's where all his like underlings yeah entourage stayed oh really yeah come on now yeah i mean muhammad bin salman anyone even stayed there if they didn't just rent it out to give him money yeah Yeah, MBS actually has money. Yeah. So he's like Trump. You can always tell the people, the few people that Trump will say nice things about are the people he's jealous of.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Right. And the people he wants to have their life like. Like him, he couldn't bring himself to say a negative thing about it because he's jealous of him, because he wants to be him. Right. He's like, well, maybe he'll let me in my club or we can touch that globe again. Right. I want to be in, give me in on that high five. Yeah. Give me like, well, maybe he'll let me in my club or we can touch that globe again. I want to be in on
Starting point is 00:41:05 that high five. Oh man, his hungry eyes when he saw Putin in MBS. Aw. Yeah. He's looking at that being like, dream weeper. Oh. I wish one world leader
Starting point is 00:41:21 had done that thing on Instagram where it zooms in and flames shoot out everywhere while it was happening right there. Or dramatic super zoom. I wish, come on, Merkel, just throw up a dramatic super zoom. I don't know if I'm one of your VIP friends, but I follow the story. Yeah, get your story games up. But also, MBS has also been, well, not him directly, but the Saudi lobbying arm has been also very, very nice to the D.C. hotel, the Trump D.C. hotel also.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So like all coincidences everywhere. Yeah. Within a month of Trump's election, the lobbyists who represent the Saudis, they paid for what they estimate around 500 nights in just three months at that hotel. Booked it for 500 nights. Maybe they're making a sequel to that Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Zooe de chanel movie which is 500 nights of uh winter 500 nights of screams uh well yeah but the wild thing was the reason though is even more absurd so what they did was it was part of a quote-unquote lobbying effort uh where they were offering u.s military veterans veterans an all-expense-paid trip to Washington, D.C., so they would lobby against a law that the Saudis opposed.
Starting point is 00:42:30 So the Saudis were paying for U.S. military veterans to come to D.C. And then the U.S. military veterans were just suddenly having Saudi Arabia in their best interest? Well, the thing is they didn't know that the Saudis were paying for it. So like what happened was they found a few veterans to like organize other ones and just be like, hey, we should come by. We're going to just – one of the emails said, quote, storm the hill to talk about this law to keep soldiers safe. You know what that law was? It was the law that allows victims and families of victims of terrorism to sue countries that sponsor terrorism. God, who sponsored terrorism? victims and families of victims of terrorism to sue countries that sponsor terrorism god who's sponsored oh god i mean well let's look at the 9-11 hijackers board here 2001 yeah yeah 15 uh
Starting point is 00:43:13 so yeah 15 out of the 19 hijackers were saudis so i think that is the big reason that they do not want that law to pass well the crazy thing i think it's just a bunch of coincidences i mean it just i don't see the law where the line is drawn. Yeah, like, well, what are they going to do? It's like if you put up a bulletin board, you know how there's all those conspiracy theory bulletin boards? Yours would be three photos with one piece of string going straight across three photos.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And you're like, I don't know. I think I might have solved it. There's no way it's this simple. There's no way it's this simple. They're hiding in plain sight. And in plain sight. Well, the whole thing too is they were going with the most tired talking points. Like, they'd go to Chuck Grassley's office, and, like, Chuck Grassley's, like, aides were like,
Starting point is 00:43:53 this hasn't even been, like, we haven't publicly discussed this yet, but okay. And they're like, yeah, we just feel like it's going to put the soldiers at risk. And then, like, other people on the Hill began to be like, are you the guys that were bribed to come in here? Like it was, it was such a farce to like the actual politicians they were lobbying that it so transparent. And yeah, the irony was most of them didn't know that that's who was at the, you know, paint cutting the checks for their little trip. They're just two middlemen away. So they just think they're getting a trip. Well, can you imagine it's like your country sponsors the people who kick off the thing that give you the pretext
Starting point is 00:44:25 for this massive war that takes millions of lives and I imagine... A war in the wrong place. Yeah, I imagine these are people who like probably, presumably, fought in those wars to come back and then are now lobbying on behalf of... It's such a mindfuck. Trump is the best for veterans. I was reading about it on his Twitter.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah. Yeah. He just gets them. You know? He gets the sacrifice and the willingness to just give up your life for the betterment. Although last week he did tweet something like, why are we paying so much in defense? Right. It's like, what? That was like one of the things you were patting
Starting point is 00:44:58 yourself on the back before. There's not money for school lunches because you wanted to do that. Right. And then suddenly like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't. Okay. I don't know know i don't know where i am day to day so all right we're gonna take another quick break and we'll be back after that Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
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Starting point is 00:49:18 Yes. Woo. Woo. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there were some. Didn't you just hear us going woo? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, here, let me do that again. Woo. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there were some- Didn't you just hear us going, woo?
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, here, let me do that again. Woo. Woo. Do that. Do you get it now? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:33 You know, some people are very excited about the nominations. Other people are not. The Golden Globes is movies and TV? Yes, movies and TV. Okay. But they really don't care. They care more about the movies, I think. Which one's the one where everyone gets drunk? The Golden Globes. Is that, movies and TV. Okay. But they really don't care. It's really, they care more about the movies. Which one's the one
Starting point is 00:49:46 where everyone gets drunk? The Golden Globes. Is that the Golden Globes? Okay. The drunk one. Ricky Gervais used to get in trouble all the time. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Because he's too fucking real, bro. You know he's an atheist? I saw a thing about that. No way. I saw it come up, yeah. Oh, wow. That's annoying. Does that mean he doesn't believe in God?
Starting point is 00:50:01 You know, I don't know because all his album covers are him carrying a bloody cross, so it doesn't make any sense. Better he thinks he's not going to get struck by lightning. Well, yeah. I think some of the things that were people, I don't know, they were snubs, I guess. Snubs, flubs.
Starting point is 00:50:15 But let me just read off best motion picture drama, okay? Yeah. Black Panther. Yes. Black Klansman. Yes. Bohemian Rhapsody. If Beale Street could talk, A Star Is Born.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Now, so this is the award show that has a musical or comedy category, correct? Yes, it does. With past winner The Martian. Right, exactly. But they didn't put A Star Is Born in the musical category because... Oscar lobbying, probably? Well, no, because it's... No, it's up to the studios
Starting point is 00:50:47 to submit it for a specific... Yeah, that's why I think the studio wants it to win an Oscar. That's why when the whole... What were the Mars thing we were talking about? Martian. The Martian came out.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Everyone was like... I wish we didn't tell you and I wish we watched you try to remember the word. Mars. Mars. Marsy red Damon. Marsman.
Starting point is 00:51:03 The Marsman prophecies. The Marsman. We are Marsman Marsy Red Damon. Marsman. The Marsman prophecies. The Marsman. We are Marsman? Yeah. We are Marsman. No, so, yeah, because they submitted it because it was such a congested category. That's where it gets a little weird because, like, don't game the system. This is, like, I'm, like, this is, I feel like Bohemian Rhapsody should have gone into
Starting point is 00:51:22 the musical one if it wanted a chance to win because it it feels like, from what I didn't see it, but from what I heard about it, it doesn't seem like an award-winning... Yeah, people like, I guess, you know, but I think when you look at the voting block, no one's American. So their tastes are a little bit different, too. They love musicals a little bit more. They like sentimental stuff, like throwback-y looking stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:44 They love prosthetic teeth. Oh, love them, love them, love them. Huge on that. Oh, so for the musical or comedy nominations, it's Crazy Rich Asians, The Favorite, Green Book, Mary Poppins Returns, and Vice, the Dick Cheney film. I haven't seen any of the movies except Black Panther.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I saw Black Panther and Black Klansman are the only two of these. I've seen Black Panther, A Star is Born, parts of Black Klansman, like that was on a screener. Well, I've seen parts of all of these in the trailers. Okay, I basically get it. See, I only watch fan fiction cartoons to learn if I want to see a movie. Someone has to have animated it at home. Yeah, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:52:21 So what's up for best sound edit? I'm just kidding. That's a really good idea although it is fun to – I don't know. I have no – real no opinion on any of these movies. Here's what – I don't want to spoil what my tweet is for the end. Well, then don't. It has to do with this a little bit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Go ahead. I couldn't find – We'll actually censor this. Okay. That's fine. So it is legitimately just the tweet saying that Black Panther is – this is a Rotten Tomatoes tweet that says Black Panther is the first superhero movie to be nominated for Best Picture Drama at the Golden Globes. Yeah. I didn't – I couldn't – it's such a wasteland of sadness on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I couldn't find anything very funny to pick. But I have so many thoughts on superhero movies as they – I'm not even a comic book guy but just how they exist in culture. Right. I think it's an exciting moment for one of them to be taken a little bit. Any step of their legitimacy makes me happy. Right. Because I think they're kind of all the most universal storytelling now is this giant universe we've all bought into for 40 hours. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Right. No one's watched any TV show that long. No one has read anything. There's nothing that a billion people have all spent 40 hours doing together. Sure. I mean, you know, in terms of TV, right, like somehow Atlanta got snubbed. That's when I'm like, hmm? Yeah, that is bizarre.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Because that is a great show that also seems critically beloved. Yeah, but I think because they already gave Atlanta a Golden Globe last year. No, I think they missed it last year too, didn't they? Didn't? I thought Donald Glover went up talking about Migos. I thought that was a key one migos i thought that oh he just won for one for writing or first performer okay i think this was the best season of the show yeah yeah uh but i guess you know but at least they got the good uh good place you know i'm happy
Starting point is 00:53:54 about that for for them getting their little shine uh and barry i feel like was a really i was very impressed by barry but a lot of people were like, how is John Krasinski not nominated for Jack Ryan? Who the fuck was saying that? They said that on Vulture or some other website. I mean, he didn't necessarily show range in that. I think he'd also played that guy in a movie about Benghazi. Yeah, 13 Hours. Wasn't he also just a military cop man?
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah, who had to fight back doing a half grin from his office. The movie that they showed at Dallas Cowboys Stadium to premiere it. Right. That's what they did. They wanted to rally together, so they got 100,000 people to come watch the Benghazi Michael Bay movie in a football field. And Hillary didn't get elected. Well, they all voted there. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, right there. And they're like, okay, who are you voting for? After you saw that, now who are you voting for? They campaigned at that stadium a little more, and bernie would have let that stadium i don't know yeah but the alienist was one i feel like every once in a while there are these golden globe nominations that suggest to me it's almost like by sheer like tyranny of will the studios or the companies behind them just like get the show nominated in the category. Because like The Alienist, I saw nothing but like ads everywhere for The Alienist.
Starting point is 00:55:10 What is The Alienist? I don't think I heard one person say they thought it was good. It's based on that novel where Teddy Roosevelt is a police chief of New York and is dealing with like one of the earliest serial killers. It's a piece of historical fiction. Was Teddy Roosevelt actually a police chief? Yeah, of New York City. Yeah with one of the earliest serial killers. It's a piece of historical fiction. Was Teddy Roosevelt actually a police chief? Yeah, of New York City. That sounds interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah, it does sound interesting, but the way they promoted it, it looked like the Nick. Oh, I loved the Nick. I did too, but it just blended in with that. Sacha Baron Cohen got nominated for a TV one. Yeah, for Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series.
Starting point is 00:55:48 He's not really acting. He's just doing his bit. Which, was it him as a whole, or did they say his performance of one of the characters was better? Just for Who is America. They're like, hey, Who is America? Come on down. I loved that show so much, it made me so tired. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:01 It made me so tired watching it, but I thought it was fantastic. Exhausting, yeah. But I could watch like a segment and then i was like well i gotta walk around for a little bit and and and i i can't do especially this where they went to to arizona and pitched building the mosque there i thought was like i was like oh this is the peak of what comedy can be yeah and i think this is an incredible that's like a piece of like art and comedy where if i made something like that i would be happy with my life right and also at the same time something like that, I would be happy with my life.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Right. And also at the same time, I was like, I need to watch this with other people, and I need to be in a well-lit room. And it was crazy how uncomfortable it made me. Yeah, well, maybe you're a snowflake, dude. I don't need – yeah, I mean – That's what it sounds like. I'm a libtard. Hey, get a load of this guy.
Starting point is 00:56:40 He has to watch it in a well-lit room with friends. Well, that's what – libtard is short for lit and TARDIS. Oh. Yes. Oh, has to watch it in a well-lit room with friends. Well, that's what LibTard is short for, lit and Tardis. Oh, yes. Oh, so you watch it in a phone booth? It's library and Tardis. So I watch it in a read in a phone booth. Actually, we always talk about how comedy never gets any credit in award shows. And this best performance by an actor in a television series, and it is musical or comedy,
Starting point is 00:57:04 but you have Sacha Baron Cohen, Jim Carrey, Donald Glover, and Bill Hader. Oh, don't leave out Michael Douglas now. What is Jim Carrey in? Michael Douglas. Jim Carrey's in a show called Kidding. It's a Showtime show, I think, right? It reunites him with Michelle Gondry
Starting point is 00:57:19 from Eternal Sunshine. One of the best music video directors ever. Yeah. I'm glad, you'm glad in terms of limited series, The Alienist, yeah, is what you're saying, The Assassination of Johnny Versace, Escape at Dannemora, Sharp Objects, and A Very English Scandal.
Starting point is 00:57:37 How long has The Assassination of Johnny Versace been around? Is it limited? It's like in the eighth season of being limited? No, I mean it's like American Crime Story, so last year it was the oj one was the american crime story and this season's was johnny versace okay so i think if you have a completely new storyline you're allowed to call it a limited i kind of like these limited series that seems to be where we're moving with all this stuff it's like sometimes i see a movie i wish was four hour television episode and sometimes i see 20 episodes of a show that i wish were four episodes of a television show.
Starting point is 00:58:06 But I'm sure for like the limited ones, you can be like, look, it's like a really long movie you're doing. Yeah. And it's going to be premium prestige TV. So why not? Yeah. And Miles, will you be going,
Starting point is 00:58:17 will you be attending this year? I've been barred this year, so I will not be going. Last year, you know, I stormed the stage. I tried to get Santa University an award and that didn't work out. OSU? Yeah. Well, you know, it's the wrong season for that. Probably not in everyone's zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah, again, people were I think shocked that Roma wasn't in the main contention, but it got in for foreign language. Is that a movie? Yes. I really got to get into this stuff. It's released on on it's the first movie that's made by Netflix that people think are is going to get a Best Picture nomination they've released it for like three weeks I think if Netflix wanted to be taken a little more
Starting point is 00:58:56 seriously let's go ahead and just kill the career right now if you're overwhelming me with things yeah just so I don't know which ones you actually really like but neither do they they don't know which ones are gonna be good they're not gonna get me to watch anything
Starting point is 00:59:12 if their shows keep having such funny names right I'm not gonna watch anything called Peaky Blinders ever I don't care how good it is I'm not gonna watch anything
Starting point is 00:59:19 called what was the one I can't even remember the OA that's okay I'm not gonna watch the names are too funny I didn't even remember. The OA. That's okay. I'm not going to watch it. The names are too funny. I didn't like the OA.
Starting point is 00:59:27 The names are too funny. Flaked is too funny, and all the posters are yellow to orange gradient with the same script. We all go to dafont.com and pay for them. But one funny, I mean, Alfonso Cuaron is nominated for Best Director for Roma, and then I didn't realize- Who directed that? Okay, I'll watch it. Peter Farrelly did Green Book.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Oh, shit. Of the Farrelly brothers. Is that him? Of motherfucking Kingpin and everything fucking Dumb and Dumber fame. Is that why it's in musical comedy category? Is it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Well, I guess, like we said, it's the studio's decision. It doesn't say a Farrelly brother? Right. No, just Peter. What happened to Bobby? Oh, shit. That's got to hurt for him.
Starting point is 01:00:05 It's like when Llewyn Davis tried to go solo. Right. We'll see. We'll see if he's got it. Learn from his mistake. I hope his brother didn't throw himself off a bridge. I know. I haven't seen a movie since Inside Llewyn Davis, so did that get nominated this year?
Starting point is 01:00:20 Is that one up? It did not. Oh, man. They keep getting snubbed, the Coens. That's another Netflix thing I don't... It's so weird for me. If whatever the Coen brothers made, what is it? The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, had come out in theaters, I would have paid $15 to see it.
Starting point is 01:00:33 But I haven't watched it on Netflix yet. That's my fault, right? Yeah, that's totally your fault. But I like going to the movies. Yeah. I watched it. It's good. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Check it out. I don't know. Mixed reviews. Anna just did the... producer might have been telling you to cut that out while we're on the subject of uh award shows and awards season there's a current headline when we're recording this on drudge report uh my number one source for news is oscar drama host homophobia headache kevin hart tweet delete. A real triple H of a headline there. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It's all about the game. But that is something that is apparently transpiring on social media yesterday, that he has some problematic tweets in his background, and people are saying, fuck this guy. He shouldn't be hosting the Academy Awards. I'm sorry, the right is complaining about that? Or they're just pointing out that there are many people actually on the left who are mad at the controversy on the left. I think that the right is excited
Starting point is 01:01:28 that the left is mad at the left. Yeah, they're like, ooh, look. Yeah, so Drudge is putting this out there because they like to, they're like, look how crazy these liberals are. They get mad about stuff like this. Well, that's called, we're trying to have a just
Starting point is 01:01:44 and equitable society. Right. Try it out. Well, it's called we're trying to have a just and equitable society. Right. Try it out. Yeah, outrage. Yeah. I think that's outrage is actually an acronym for that. Our universe, though, really all guys exist. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Wow. Wow, you nailed it. Yeah, and then outrageous is now like when all guys exist. Ow, us, sometimes. That's because I use guys, which is miniscule. So they're like, ouch, us, sometimes. That's because I use guys, which is so they're like, ouch, us, sometimes? What am I doing? No, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:02:10 It's an amazing... History might show it was a stroke. History might say stroke. Doctors might say stroke. You might say amazing. Well, Kyle, that's all the time we have. Where can people find you? At least we wrapped up that Kevin Hart thing.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Well, there's nothing really to report other than the... You gave us the golden out. That was the button on the whole bit was you trying to do outrageous as an acronym for a liberal progressive group. The news will wrap that up. You can find me. I'm pretty much Kyle Ayers across the board on all find me. I'm pretty much Kyleairs across the board on all social media. You are pretty much Kyleairs across the board, and that's what we like
Starting point is 01:02:50 about you. And you've already told us what your tweet is that you like? Yeah. Can I do an unfunny tweet for another one? Yeah. Yes. Unfunny. Let me just pull it up real quick. Okay. The fact that it's a tweet isn't as relevant as the information in the tweet.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Does that make sense? Like the wording or anything has nothing to do with it? Yeah. Okay. So this is a tweet from Nick Turner. Nick Turner, who's a comedian, said that his best friend and comedy husband, Jason Sines, suffered a bad accident and is going to need a lot of help over the next year. Please retweet and donate.
Starting point is 01:03:20 So Jason Sines is a comedian in New York City. Or in Los Angeles, where we're at now, who I met in New York City. He's a very funny guy. And Jason had an accident and fell like 15, 20 feet and is now paralyzed. And it was two weeks away or his insurance kicked in on January 1st. So he's looking at – isn't it – I'm upset that this is a thing that people have to keep talking about. Yeah. That this keeps having to be a thing where we rely on each other for assistance but if you go anywhere jason has a very funny instagram
Starting point is 01:03:49 he runs called sign signs where he puts up fake advertisements and fake wanted signs up uh so this is going under nick has started the hashtag sign spines because jason has a decent sense of humor about himself right right uh but if you look around my twitter around uh just look up jason signs s-a-e-n-z and and you can read a little bit about what's going on. If you have the means, you can help Jason out as well. Yeah. Buck. Because that will be a preexisting condition, I'd imagine.
Starting point is 01:04:14 It's going to be a long situation for a long time. Yeah. But it's sad that it keeps coming up for everyone. Well, yeah. And we talked about this earlier this week where people run into issues with their insurance, and the insurance company is like, have you tried a fundraising thing? Yeah, a doctor telling you that. Have you tried having, if only there was some sort of national fundraising system we could use to help benefit medical procedures and medicine.
Starting point is 01:04:38 It's called taxes. I don't know. No, that's theft. You're right. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. A tweet I like is from The Onion that just says, Woman relieved soulmate turned out to be in same socioeconomic bracket.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I just scroll The Onion and laugh sometimes. Yeah, that and Reductress. Oh, and another one. It just said, Herpetologists discover species of frogs that evolved to spontaneously grow top hat and cane uh sean clements tweeted hey gang want to make sure i say this now when i die go ahead and keep the u.s postal service running uh which is nice of him good of him to let us know uh you can follow me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can follow us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook
Starting point is 01:05:30 fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what's up well i was just thinking about Ross Putin. And I want to do a song by Lulu B called Rude Tings because it has some of that island vibe to it. And yeah, Lulu B is a dope artist. And this is kind of got, you know, that island vibe that Ross Putin would really be feeling. Another tweet that I just wanted to share with you guys. At Paris Lay tweeted her. When can I expect you to share with you guys. At Paris Lay tweeted, Her, when can I expect you to stop by?
Starting point is 01:06:07 Me, colon. And then he retweeted Yoko Ono, who said, I don't rely on time. Time is what man made for our convenience. And in reality, it does not exist, which I thought was appropriate for this episode. All right. We are going to ride out on that.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Have a great weekend, everyone. We'll talk to you on Monday. Bye. Bye. I be the queen of the pack. I be the ting with the glow. Ting with the glow. I be the queen of the pack.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I be the ting with the glow. I be the, I be the, I be the queen of the pack. I be the ting with the glow. I be the, I be the, I be the, I be the, I be the. I be the, I be the, I be the. One with the rude tings. Bad with the mood swings. Howl at the moon like a wolf's beak. Stay getting goofy.
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