The Daily Zeitgeist - Leo's Reverse Rental Car Policy, Wealth Defense = America's Top Industry 02.08.23
Episode Date: February 8, 2023In episode 1418, Jack and guest co-host DJ Danl Goodman are joined by comedian, writer, and podcaster, Steve Hernandez, to discuss… The Uber Wealthy Run Everything AKA Another Segment Of Jack Read A...nother New Yorker Article Now You Get To Hear About It, The State of the Union: Now With More Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Leonardo DiCaprio’s Newest Girlfriend Invites (Gross) Comparisons to The Last of Us, TripAdvisor Keeps Getting Fooled By Fake Restaurants and more! The Uber Wealthy Run Everything AKA Another Segment Of Jack Read Another New Yorker Article Now You Get To Hear About It Leonardo DiCaprio’s Newest Girlfriend Invites (Gross) Comparisons to The Last of Us Leonardo DiCaprio’s rumoured new girlfriend sparks age gap comparison with Pedro Pascal Leonardo DiCaprio Has Been Linked To A 19-Year-Old Model And The Internet Is Seriously Uncomfortable TripAdvisor Keeps Getting Fooled By Fake Restaurants Montreal’s No. 1 Restaurant Doesn’t Exist Best restaurant in Montreal according to Tripadvisor does not exist How this man tricked TripAdvisor into listing his shed as London's No. 1-rated restaurant Believe nothing: The hoax of the Shed at Dulwich Fake restaurant on TripAdvisor sends diners to alley filled with garbage cans APPLE RANKINGS(!) LISTEN: Awake To You by R+R=NOWSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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DJ Daniel aka Mr. Steel your aerial you are literally jack from the daily zeitgeist on
discord all words capitalized yeah I appreciate that they're very dad on the internet energy I
know and um I wanted to I wanted to post hey it's me
from the daily zeitgeist but yes i also feel weird about posting in there because it feels like
i don't know i i just want to just be like y'all do your thing you know i'm just you just want to
be cool yeah i just want to be cool look i'll saying is inherently uncool. Yeah, I know. We've heard your takes on this.
You're anti-poster.
Well, Dan, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests here on the Daily Zeitgeist,
a hilarious and talented podcaster, comedian, writer, ordained minister.
Please welcome back to the show, Steve Hernandez!
Great to be here. Two wonderful whites. I'm loving that.
And I'm loving the imagery of your thighs, Jackie.
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I'm thinking of you running for Senate now.
I'm thinking of you as one of the Kennedys. Praise God.
You always say that I give off Kennedy's's energy but i feel like the kennedys
would really i would have been disowned from the family by now you are the perfect you are the
perfect future candidate now you know you've been doing this program for so long you know what a uh
what an abysmal idea it is to run for office but have you thought about it there's something in you ever thought about it jack
i've not no i i did go to a hugo soto martinez event and he he was talking about what it's like
to be a candidate for public office and be an introvert and that was the first time i was like
oh my god that would be like that was the only time I was like, Oh my God, that would be like, that was the
only time I had ever like put it into my head. And I was like, I would have to like, go like
shake hands with people, talk to them and then go take a nap in my car from just like the sheer,
yeah, just draining amount of energy that I would be putting into every single thing that they said.
Well, it definitely would be a sacrifice for you, but it's either you or the rock.
And that's I mean, this can't be our two main hopes.
But, Jack, I believe it is you or the rock.
All right.
Well, I've got to start waking up an hour earlier because I was I wake up at three in the morning to get my workout started.
But apparently he gets up at two in the morning. get my workout started but apparently he gets up at two in the morning i love the psychology of that they're just like i can't be can't be anyone else awake
when i start my workout but i think i also missed something in the i guess there was a joke that was
being referenced when he said get up here best friend Adele. So I'm sorry that anyone had to hear my commentary
on the Grammys, a show that I avowedly did not watch
and don't think I ever will watch.
But I think I also underrated it a little bit
because there was also great footage
of speaking of introvert energy,
Ben Affleck being in the front row behind J-Lo
and just like not knowing what to do with his hands or body. Like
his entire body was my hands when I walk into a room. He was just like, what? Like she's like
dancing to the music and he has to stand. But he you can see him just being drained by the
uncomfortableness of the situation. And it's just been doing it for so long.
You know,
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Hey, the heart wants what it wants.
Boy, don't I know it.
All right, Steve, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today.
Folks, I read a New Yorker article.
So that means you're going to hear about that shit.
It's about the wealth defense industry, which is like the people who go into private wealth
management and are the reason that the top 0.1% in the United States have gone from having,
I think, 7% in the 70s of the wealth to 18%.
So it's a big contributor to inequality in the country.
And it's one of the most infuriating things that I've ever read, just hearing these people talk about the world that they exist in.
the the world that they exist in and it's just straight up like they're outraged that anyone would suggest taxing their their wealth so god forbid we'll talk about that we'll talk about
leonardo cabrio has another very young girlfriend and people are doing fun things gross things to
put it into perspective on the internet.
So we'll talk about that.
State of the Union is happening tonight.
We probably won't even talk about that, but maybe we will.
I don't know.
I hear it's going to be a rip-roaring good time.
Yeah.
Is that happening?
That's Tuesday, right?
Yes, that is.
Yeah, last night.
It happened last night.
So I don't know.
We're recording this before.
So any major bombshells, I can guarantee you, did not happen at the State of the Union.
We'll talk about TripAdvisor, getting fooled by fake restaurants.
So all of that, plenty more.
But first, Big Hearn, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
I was looking up, I looked through them, and the only appropriate thing to talk about is I was looking for Beyonce tickets.
Yes.
I can't do it.
I'm out.
I'm out for a concert.
Jack, when was the last time you went to a concert?
The last time I went to
a concert was
it might have been the
Jay-Z Beyonce show.
That long ago. Wow.
That was a minute. How about you, Dan?
How about you?
I went and saw the lovely Carly Rae
Jepsen at the Greek Theater not too long ago.
I think it was about a month and a half. Oh, that's great.
I love that. It was lovely.
It was fun. I am completely
prepared to cash out. I lost
my shit during the Taylor
Swift uproar. I'm a huge Taylor
Swift fan.
I tried to get in the... I've seen her
three times. The shows are always
amazing. I
got kicked out of the Capital One
pre-sale thing, and then I just quickly looked
at the things, and I looked at my wife, and I just went to StubHub, and I bought nosebleed seats
for $400 each. Wow. Yes. It's something I'm proud of. Your listeners may not know this,
but I'm an older Latino man. I bartend in Co covina i've got to face working class filipino
and mexican men all the time and tell them the same stories it's wildly embarrassing but i looked
at my beautiful white wife in the face and her and i have never been to a taylor swift concert
together and i told her this is the last time we're doing anything like this forget it there's
no more concerts after this and i pay for that i looked at beyonce it's the very exact same thing you could tell everything you're getting access to pre-sales and all this kind of
shit and uh i am simply out there is nothing that you can experience i think at a beyonce concert
where it's going to cost you a thousand dollars twelve hundred dollars fifteen hundred dollars
it's just not ever going to be worth it that's's how I feel about it. And I love Beyonce.
Yeah, I do too.
It really seems like the whole, I mean, it is a industry that is controlled by a monopoly.
And I feel like that's fucking it up for everyone.
Right? Yeah.
That just feels like it's really made, put a sour taste in people's mouth.
Yeah, I can't do it anymore.
So I don't know what the future is for the concert industry,
but it does bum me out
not to see the queen, you know,
holding hands with my beloved,
you know, looking into her eyes,
singing songs from Lemonade,
you know, cheating songs.
Right.
Songs about cheating.
This one's our song, honey.
Why are you so into this? She's just looking at me crying weeping
slowly i'll never forget when lemonade came out i um it was on hbo max for like three hours i don't
know if you guys remember this and i i had chatterbox my sunday night show in covina that
i was gonna go to i had an hour to take a apple i was like let me just start this thing and i was like so taken aback i did cry for sure but just i just took in the whole thing
and i was so deeply moved just thinking about jay-z cheating on beyonce yeah yeah he fucked up
i mean the best thing to come out of all that is to find out the reason why Solange pushed him in the elevator.
It was beating on him.
It's like the coolest thing I've ever seen that we have on tape to have Beyonce's sister beating up Jay-Z for cheating on her.
How cool is this?
It's great.
I feel like that would have been a lot of people's responses to hearing that he cheated on Beyonce.
Like, it didn't need to be her sister. Like, I feel like if his homie had found it he's like you what
stupid yeah so you are going you will be there absolutely not absolutely not you're not going
okay no good for you i will not i will uh i probably will like the day or two of if there's
something i i hate what i'm about to tell you.
But it's sad. Everything's gotten so expensive. I have money.
OK, I'm not rich or anything, but I'm a wildly successful neighborhood bartender.
I get I get a few commercials a year. So that's like a windfall of money.
I don't have to worry about money. I'm very grateful for that like that.
But, you know, going grows. i do the grocery shopping in the family every like a sandwich now if you go somewhere if you go somewhere to pick up a sandwich
is 20 at the door there's all this i'm just i'm just feeling taken advantage of okay i'm starting
to feel like this is too much now granted i'm getting older so i wonder if everyone just feels
this way if we're just thought that the thing is to just talk about money like this.
But I can't.
Yeah.
It's the inflation.
Yeah.
It's like they just raise the prices on everything and there's nothing to stop them from doing that.
And they call it inflation.
But it's really just corporations realizing that they face no consequences if they just charge more money.
All they face is more money which is
good like that that gives them their friends during their earnings calls think they call
them geniuses for doing that shit so it's you know i know there's more complicated dynamics
involved but that seems to be the main one as far as i can tell and with and sandwich inflation
yeah they're making us pay $20 for a smaller sandwich,
which is infuriating.
I'm telling you, we went to a place,
and I don't want to call it out anyway.
It was a fine sandwich.
It was even very tasty, but we spent $50 the other day.
This is like just walking out with the things.
And, you know, hey, well, you know,
how lucky were we to spend the $50?
That's all I got to say, okay?
Hey, this is what happens when you're a wildly successful and able-heared bartender, guys, all right?
I have helped build that bar for 15, 16 years now.
What is something you think is overrated?
Let's see.
Suffering for your art.
I absolutely think it's overrated.
If we're talking about money, I tell everyone get i every comedian i know get a
job right get a job and then do your do your art uh for fun and don't think about it don't feel bad
about it but do not move to los angeles do not move to new york and you better not move to chicago
and think you're gonna get the sign the deal that you're going to sell the script. Granted, that happens.
Okay.
And it could happen to you, too.
But get a fucking job and enjoy these large cities.
Buy the $20 sandwiches.
And don't put all this pressure on yourself that your art has to be the way you make a living.
It will only bring you pain.
Get a job.
Get a fucking job.
Do your art for fun and don't think
that you have to make your living from your art and that you're a failure as an artist because
you that because you have to have a job do not think that get it out of your fucking head and
you will live a much happier life get an amca list subscription okay go to the movies with your
friends twice a week and you'll feel much happier. I do think Suffering for Your Art is overrated.
I did go to New York recently, though, and I do want to move there.
Yeah, everybody's moving to New York.
It's very frustrating to me.
New York's the best.
The comedy scene is dead here in Los Angeles.
We're in a rebuilding session.
I don't know if you guys know this, but we need people to start open mics.
We need people to start independent shows. It very dead and then of course new york
beckons but then i remember about this wonderful job i have as a neighborhood bartender and i will
never i will never give it up because i am as rich as i've ever thought i'd ever be just being a
working class guy to the people hell yeah has. Has anyone ever done a deep dive?
It would be good for
somebody to publish a book that is
just the side jobs of
famous artists.
Kafka was a...
I don't know.
I don't think he was ever a professional writer.
I think he was a bureaucrat, like a professional
bureaucrat, but just a
quick
Wikipedia-length write-up of I think he was like a bureaucrat, like a professional bureaucrat, but just like a quick, you know, Wikipedia length write up of various famous artists and what they actually did for a living while they were creating their art.
I feel like would be very, very inspiring.
That's a great idea.
Christ the carpenter.
Christ the carpenter.
Christ.
Yeah.
So he was he was a famous carpenter.
But as his side gig, he was also like to go around and preach to people.
I know.
Obviously, he wasn't a good carpenter.
We would have heard more about that.
Apparently not.
Exactly.
Where are the houses that Jesus built?
This guy made this table and he's saying this sick shit like incredible.
Right.
It's just the most beautiful word.
Yeah.
The carpenter. They would just call yeah the carpenter you know they would just
call him the carpenter that would be his thing you know right jesus the shitty carpenter what a hook
but like what if that was like what he was ultimately passionate about he's like i really
wish i could just pay pay my way with carpentry, but everyone's like, no, man. Your carpentry is solid, for sure.
It's really good and interesting, but you have this
whole other thing. What are they making back
then, anyways? It's just tables, right? There's no shelves. Were there
shelves back then? I feel like chairs even were kind of
a more recent thing. like that's what that's
why we still think they're so fancy that we call like the head of something the chairman
that's why yeah and he famously yes famously in the bible he was always reclining so he was they
were sitting down to eat so we don't even know if chairs were a thing yet and it's damn so it's strictly tables jesus the table maker uh but i do like that idea of finding
other artists and what their jobs were one good thing about this economic downturn that's i try
to tell all my friends is that when everything goes to shit uh we do have there is the possibility
of very very good art and so that is what i try
to tell them as they eat their own hands right yeah oh but the art uh but the art yeah and i
feel like america has a very like we don't because there's no real class consciousness, people are just that they blame themselves or they'll be like, you got to like rise and grind.
I'm not working hard enough if I need to, if I'm even thinking about eating my hands.
So, yeah, it's, but go easy on yourself.
It's, it's tough out there.
What is something you think is underrated?
Two things. One, I've recently bought it. I don't know if you've ever had this. It's probably
wildly popular, but have you had the jalapeno Tabasco sauce? They have it at Chipotle a lot.
It's green. The green Tabasco? Yeah. Fire. It's incredible. I used to just go to Chipotle for
that. Then I realized i could steal
the bottles then i realized i could just buy the bottles and uh i love this stuff along with
sriracha it's like my absolute favorite thing so i buy like three bottles at a time because i you
they only haven't met ralph's a lot of times but i buy three bottles of that i really really love
this sauce if you guys haven't had it it's tangy. It's not hot at all, but I love it with my eggs.
I love it in salads.
It's really, really good.
So I love that.
And then also underrated.
I haven't heard anyone talk about this, but Trader Joe's started selling these flavored soda waters with apple vinegar.
Have you had these things?
No. No. They these things? No.
No.
They're like $1.80 at Trader Joe's.
We're a soda stream family as well.
We had to buy them because Spindrift went up.
I don't know.
Have you seen the Spindrift?
$6.99?
$7.99 for an eight-pack?
Forget about it.
For an eight-pack?
Yeah.
Yes.
Damn.
They've gone up that high.
So we bought a soda stream.
It's pretty ballsy for a company that is just the easiest thing to make yourself,
which is seltzer water.
Yes.
We bought the SodaStream, and then we tried this yesterday.
So with the SodaStream, high-powered.
We love that carbonation.
We're going triple.
I want Topo Chico style carbonation with raspberry.
You want your mouth to hurt.
Yes.
Burn that tongue.
And then I'm telling you, if you like the funk, it sounds crazy, but this Trader Joe's gave us this idea.
And you should definitely buy those at Trader Joe's as well.
But apple cider vinegar in your soda water is phenomenal.
I just love how funky it tastes.
I stopped drinking alcohol a long time ago, so it's so interesting.
And you're not paying these mocktail- style prices that they're trying to fucking get
us non-drinkers oh my god yeah the mocktail the mocktail menu is has gotten out of control
and 15 15 for juices go f yourself that's all i gotta say go f yourself i just had a mocktail
that like tasted like the worst beer but it was like so it was more expensive than a good beer but like it was
it was it reminded me of like the worst beers that i drank when i was drinking but like i would
choke them down because they had high alcohol content and like they're like we have brought
that back to you arrogant bastard was like that they have these 10 percenters and you're like
yep just choking them down. Yeah, exactly.
That's what I was doing.
Exactly.
Cool.
Always at Whole Foods checking the alcohol content of the beer for no reason.
Just I like the taste.
Have you had the athletic brewery beer yet?
I don't think I have, no.
It's all around town, but they also have a, they deliver it to your home, I think for
just a buck or two extra.
But it's athletic brewing and it's, they make IPAs, they make like blondes and it's the most delicious non-alcoholic beer you'll ever have.
Wow.
I love this stuff.
I get two six packs delivered.
I think it's like $25 for the two six packs delivered.
Oh, wow.
And I just keep them in there, you know there for friends, people who don't want to.
Even if they drink alcohol still in their lives,
sometimes people don't want to deal with it on a weekday.
I take them to the Chatterbox, but athletic brewing is also delicious.
When I was in New York, I was literally pounding six a night like a lunatic.
Six non-alcoholic beers a night.
Just stretching out the night yeah give me a
fucking break right but so you're out and doing that right oh yeah oh yeah i'm like give me another
home like i'm getting another i'm getting another na anyone want anything like that
like i'm still drinking beer i'm paying that much money like a lunatic but it is delicious
athletic brewing yeah great art too great art yeah it is
beautiful cans i love a spicy ginger beer that's my that's my move real spicy not all of us can
afford the calories like that okay right right some of us are are running from diabetes okay
running and diabetes is grabbing at our ankles to cut off our foot.
Yeah, no, it is sweet.
That's for sure.
All right.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll talk about wealth defense.
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And this is an article that's in the New Yorker.
I think it's called like the Getty family's trust issues. We've talked about it already because I think Molly Lambert might have brought it up because it was how she discovered that there's like a Getty
Scion child
that is like a famous experimental
artist and like not
that great.
Shocker. Yeah. But anyways,
there's a whole chunk
in this article that
is about this industry.
I mean, mainly the articles about
this industry that is these
wealth managers who work for just massive, like generationally wealthy families. And they've,
the industry has grown and gotten better and had like very little pushback from Congress to the point that it's...
So a point they make is that there are all these sayings
that American fortunes go from shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations.
I don't know what the fuck that means.
But the Japanese version is the third generation ruins the house.
So it's basically like by the third generation, the wealth has done its damage and they're just so morally bankrupt 70s, that has changed to a great degree. And
that's where we're getting things like the Kochs, like the Koch family between 1983 and 2020.
Their family fortune grew 25 fold from 3.9 billion to 100 billion. The Mars family fortune,
which I wasn't even aware there was like a rich
Mars candy family, but that grew by a factor of 36 to 94 billion. The Waltons, I had just kind
of taken for granted. Yeah, of course the Waltons are rich, but they have a family fortune of $247
billion. And like the way that they're able to do this, like this is, this is
when their family should be shitting away all their money and like losing it all. And the way
that used to work is because they were taxed because they had like immense, immense wealth
that would be hard to hide. And so it would be taxed. But that is not the case anymore because of these industries.
They have entire companies that work for a family.
They talk about this one Getty industry family
that manages more wealth than the entire hedge fund industry like the the whole
every hedge fund in the world doesn't manage as much wealth as this one getty family trust
but like we don't i guess i wasn't aware of the degree to which that this had just become a thing where a handful of families
kind of behind behind the scenes control everything and it really is like there's a
detail in here where gavin newsom's dad is like high school friends with that getty guy and he like managed their wealth for a while and then like lo and behold
Gavin Newsom becomes you know who he is so it's like it's just this wild thing where like it is
a secret network of very extremely wealthy people behind the scenes who are connected to one another and they're just quietly protecting, you know, their failed sons and just holding on and growing these incredibly vast fortunes to the point that now the top 0.1% owns 18% instead of 7% as recently as the 70s.
seven percent as as recently as the 70s so i don't know is it like i i guess like i kind of knew this was happening but just reading the article really gives you some texture of like how how it works
i mean you hate to have this kind of stuff like driven home super clearly but it also feels like
we've just built so many fail safes for money like if you have enough money to invest in such a way
and to put it in so many securities and stocks and blah, blah, blah, that you're kind of ensuring that the, you know, the one wild cousin can't go out and just buy a seven Bentleys and, you know, lose the family wealth.
I think that, you know, that has to have something to do with it where it's just like, no, we can just future proof this for enough time and have enough lawyers involved that cousin gregory isn't going to blow it on a coke binge right yeah i don't know it it feels like we're in another and they
they do say like that is what they have they just have all these incredibly complex financial
institutions or instruments that the money is tied up in and shell corps and you know all all these different
financial products that are invented you know this is where when like people graduate from
the top schools in america this is what they go into is like inventing these ways to protect
really rich families money because it's also a great way to, you know, build your own fortune,
essentially. And like this is a percentage of that. Yeah. This is what like a lot of the most capable people I went to college went to, went into, and I never really understood what it was.
But yeah, it makes sense. It's just these families have more money than entire industries,
you know, like one family has more money than the entire hedge fund industry.
So how much money is after this amount of money they have,
they stop being human as we know it?
What do you think that is?
I mean, truly, I always play around with this number.
I've asked people this when I'm doing shows.
It's so funny how like regular people are like,
ah, that's too, you know, that's not even like,
but regular people, if you say, all right, that's not even like regular people if you say
all right you start getting taxed 90 after this amount of money regular people are even very
generous about this they'll say like as much as 20 20 million dollars a year 20 million a year
yes yeah are they say they say 10 million isn't that much you know i'm telling you regular people
who work at the post office will be like yeah and, the 90% tax rate. Well, even with all of that said, our attitude, I think America's
attitude from the richest to the poorest attitudes about taxes is so terrible, but it's only because
we don't see anything from those taxes generally, correct? Right. right wait you mean like because the government
doesn't yes yeah i mean well it's it's hard to say because you know there was this run where
the new deal actually like created a bunch of roads and you know a bunch of the things that
we're still like that that built out our society and that like American society still benefits from,
but we had like for our entire lifetimes,
we've been living in this world where it's like they,
yeah,
that all the energy and like the smartest people have gone into building these
people's wealth and like their own,
instead of trying to figure out like smart ways to spend tax money, essentially.
Yeah, I mean, it's so the problem is multi-leveled like that.
When we had the original New Deal, I mean, our money wasn't going straight to the military.
Like 60 percent of our budget is now.
And so even when you get regular people have this distaste for taxes because we don't, I mean, we obviously need a new, new deal because we understand that homelessness is only going to get worse in this country,
especially in the cities, that we all need medical care for all, all of these things.
But nobody's been able to paint that picture.
So rich people could say, I mean, I have friends, our old friends, I should say, that are Republicans
now, and they'll say, like, what am I going to just give the government my money? What are they
going to do with it? And at this moment, I really can't, if I'm being honest with myself, I can't
look them in the face and say, like, oh, yeah, you're right. Just give them your money, and then
it's just going to go to the military, I guess, and the cops. Like, so, I mean, so, you know, you take that and, you know, that's obviously not a good
thing, but it's, you know, it's not like our politicians even have a taste for going after
rich people and their taxes and all these loopholes and all this shit.
I have people who would identify as Democrats and liberal friends that they say, I have
to take advantage of these loopholes
because they're there and it's legal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's very apt to point out that like, we don't know where the money is going because,
you know, just talking about the military really briefly, the whole spy balloon, whatever
thing that we shot out of the sky, that was the first time an F-22 raptor has hit an air-to-air target that's a
120 million dollar plane shooting a 400 000 missile at a balloon and it's like hey guys
our tax dollars at work to make that happen we did it everybody we did it it's just like that
exactly fuck yeah but yeah i mean so the overall like what in this article they argue that like
like we're in another gilded age right and the argument that one scholar in the article makes is
that a crash has to happen basically that like this is the how the attitude of towards taxation
works in the country is that like people are skeptical of taxes until like the wealthy acquire all the
money and people are having so much trouble that the society can't function then a crash happens
and then you get the new deal out of just a place of like desperation and everybody realizing like
this shit doesn't work and then slowly by slowly i mean they granted the the
wealthy don't want it to be slowly right like during during the new deal when roosevelt was
like doing the new deal they tried to overthrow him with a with a u.s general they tried to do
a fascist coup but i don't know it's just bleak to accept that they need to fuck up so badly that they send a message to themselves that a bunch of people like are starving, like that we need to starve in order for them to accept that what they're doing is fucked up. of this already like we're voting for more socialist policies and but but when when people
vote towards the left like the mainstream media just works so hard and is like so consistent
about just hiding that appetite and being like well americans are scared of the scared of the
edges they were they're more centrist than they've ever been before. And it's like, no man, like the society is moving fiscally and socially to the right,
like has been for our entire lifetimes. People don't like that and are trying to push back, but
it's just, everything is controlled by this Ivy league educated gentry class that treats any solution that doesn't involve venture capital backing as like unrealistic or childish.
Like you have to like speak the language of like venture capital in order to be taken seriously by them.
And it's just like, I don't know.
It's frustrating.
And you mentioned the article does mention that it's but these things, this is what happens. This has all been happening since the beginning of time, correct? Yeah, there's definitely been other ways to organize a civilization or a society that seemed to make people much happier that, you know, don't involve just people being alienated from their lives and, you know, feeling dread every morning and just having the horrible horrible deaths of despair
and like all these things that we have kind of taken for granted and just been like well
this has to be the best version it's like no it actually doesn't like there's there's all these
indigenous civilizations that we just like haven't really bothered studying but like when you do look at them they had awesome
ways like awesome ideas for distributing wealth like changing who has different jobs on a like
annual basis like there's uh ceremonies where like the the wealthy are forced to live like the least
wealthy and the least wealthy are enabled to live in the homes of the wealthy or, you know, like, it's just like anything that takes away the permanence of this like that. That seems to be the thing that ties into this article that other civilizations had been very skeptical of.
so is what we're seeing in this article is the idea that you permanently get to keep the money like that you permanently if you have like a good stroke of luck you get to keep the winnings from
that good stroke of luck because eventually you are going to re-tell that story to yourself in
such a way that it was actually because you were you know you're making
a billion times more money than everyone because you're actually a billion times smarter than
everyone is like the story that they eventually tell themselves down through the generations and
it's it's all total bullshit well i mean the covina version of this and this truly happens i
could think of three guys right now is that these guys uh their dad
has have construction companies and they're like staunch republicans and talk shit about about
democratic policies i'm like you motherfuckers have not done anything for your bullshit thing
please tip me over 20 percent uh and i will not bring up any of this uh but have the democrats
talked about i know once Trump got into the office,
they repealed the estate tax. But has there been any talk about reinstating the estate tax?
Yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of loopholes that haven't been addressed. Like they basically they
so they go to this, like this industry's, like meeting, like where they all like get together
and like talk about what's happening in the
industry.
And everyone's just like,
this is the best time.
Everybody like hurry up,
make all the money they haven't like Congress hasn't adjusted a tax law in
the direction of like taking more money from the extremely wealthy in 35
years.
And like,
so that they're,
they also write about like,
there are some signals like based on,
you know,
that there've been some document leaks that have made people very angry and
like shamed one politician.
And I think like Iceland or something into quitting,
but it's,
it's all very meager in terms of like,
we have this massive problem with inequality.
It's like driving a lot of the
extremism and all the shit that we're seeing and like we we know what the problem is it's just
this is like buried in some new yorker article you know but like there's this massive industry
and they also talk about there's a product that they have in this industry that is i think called
like the eyes glazed over
product or something like that where it's just like it's so boring and complicated that when
we put our money into it like the vast majority of the people like won't understand right so they're
just like we get to steal from future generations of other people's kids with this product because
they're when we explain how it works their eyes will blaze over that is an issue that i'm unfortunately all too familiar with there
was a time back in the dj days and someone'd be like why won't you come to my city and i'm like
oh i don't choose what city we go to it's like the agents with like well how does that work
and then you start explaining how a show gets booked and they just stop carrying three seconds
in it's like never mind there's too much information here for me to care about this how does that work? And then you start explaining how a show gets booked and they just stop carrying three seconds in.
It's like,
nevermind.
There's too much information here for me to care about this.
Yeah.
All right.
Well,
that's how it works.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
But yeah,
it's the golden age for these people who are extremely wealthy families like
the Geddes and the Mars.
And then a bunch of families we've probably like never heard of and the,
you know,
And then a bunch of families we've probably like never heard of. And the, you know, financial professionals who who fund them and who are who like advise them like are all making their own fortunes. And it's just it's fucked. It's a it's can't can't be the way that things continue on if if we're going to have a functioning civilization. It's a real mess.
Perfectly upsetting.
Yeah, it's perfectly upsetting.
Last May, Marvin Blum, a Texas lawyer and accountant, gave a seminar for fellow accountants who were figuring out how to profit from the influx of wealth that needed protecting.
Blum told his colleagues, conditions for leaving large sums have never been better, noting
that Congress has not closed an estate planning loophole in over 30 years.
So, yeah.
Hell yeah.
And the top 1% of taxpayers are responsible for 28% of the nation's unpaid taxes.
They're not the ones who are going to be audited or if they are audited, they have the, you know, legal and financial firepower to like push back and, you know, tie it up in the courts.
But they are under funding the U.S. government an annual shortfall of more than one hundred and sixty billion dollars.
then 160 billion dollars so yeah and then the other thing that's like really annoying slash troubling is that like so i'll just read this one quote tom handler chicago tax lawyer
who specializes in ultra wealthy clients told me that the political pressure so this is like in
response to all these leaked documents and everyone being kind of outraged as they see how much money
these people are hoarding he says like the response among the ultra wealthy is that it has only generated more
business for him and his peers. And then he says most of the high net worth client base,
they're running for cover. So income tax planning has gone up. Estate tax planning has gone up.
Asset protection has gone up. And he says that his clients feel vilified other than the very
liberal highly educated intellectual elite they don't feel guilty at all they're angry so the
very rich people who people are now like wait you haven't been paying taxes in like generations
and like we're all you know suffering and having to like look at our hand and see a a big cartoon ham because we're
we're hungry like that like the what the fuck and they get mad that we even have the temerity
to like question them so it's i don't know it's a very infuriating article but i thought very
enlightening we will link off to it in the footnotes.
Footnotes.
Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Leonardo DiCaprio's girlfriend or some shit.
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And yeah, so Leonardo DiCaprio seems to be continuing with his,
I guess it's the reverse car rental company policy
because he doesn't date women over the age of 25.
Like it's like once you hit 25,
instead of being acceptable,
you now need to start looking for other options.
According to one source,
because people talk to Leonardo DiCaprio's friends
and get sourcing on like,
what's with his policy?
Leonardo says that's because that's when his
girlfriend start looking to settle down um which is hey you know but people are pointing out that
his newest girlfriend is i think she's 19 she's a 19 year old model which she wasn't even born
when titanic came out um she wasn't even born when gangs came out. She wasn't even born when Gangs of New York came out.
And people are doing a great job of illustrating
the innate grossness of this pairing
in one instance using The Last of Us.
Yeah, that really hit home.
Yeah.
Wow, DJ Daniel.
That's just like, you're supposed to be,
talk about this relationship between this guy who lost his daughter
and this girl that he rescues.
And it's just like, yeah, that's when Leo's dating.
It's like, ugh, boogie.
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal is 47 and Ramsey is 19,
the girl in The Last of Us,
which is pretty much on par with what we're working with,
or even closer in age than what we're working with with Leo.
David Harbour and his 18-year-old Stranger Things co-star,
Millie Bobby Brown, have the exact same age gap as Leo and Eden.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
Wonderful.
Hey, go off, Leo. Yeah, he obviously doesn't think of women as people no sure i mean but what are we supposed to do with that like he you know i mean who i guess
i should say who cares right yeah the six-year countdown begins that's what we got we got the
six-year countdown until the chart resets
he lets her off into the off to pasture and then picks up another 19 year old and then we start all
over again what do they talk about like does he does he stay up on like what younger generations
are interested in or is he just like i don't They, you know, they're talking about the tickety-tacka or something.
And I'm just over here. The one thing that we have talked about is that he, what is rumored to have somebody who slept with him said that he likes to put on noise-canceling headphones and vape weed while having sex.
That's precious.
I've heard from a few
people. I've heard
from a first-hand account
that yes, he likes to do
it doggy style. You can't look at him.
He's had some things. And I've heard he
watches porn
while it's happening too.
The guy has been... He's obviously not a real person.
Yeah.
He has been, like, famous since he was a child on Growing Pains.
Yeah.
His brain is broken.
He probably does not possess the ability to form any real human connections with anyone outside the pussy posse.
It is.
Yeah.
So whatever in this particular instance, I don't want to say it's okay.
Who knows what's okay or any of this shit, but it just seems so it's like so laugh out loud funny that he clocks them out at 25 to that.
Nobody to me.
It is kind of funny.
Yeah.
You think Kevin Connolly is still in the Pussy Posse?
Is he still hanging around?
Is E still hanging around?
I think he hasn't done anything in forever,
but he's probably holding on, making those calls like,
hey, so what are we doing tonight?
Right.
On TikTok every now and then, he'll pop up.
He does have a podcast.
Oh, he does?
Oh, yeah, a podcast.
I don't want to say it's with Johnny Drama,
but I have seen things with him talking to,
I believe his name is Doug Ellis, the creator of Entourage.
Oh, okay.
So there is some stuff like that.
I personally think Kevin Connolly keeps getting cuter the older he gets.
I'm sure he's doing fine.
And he seems like a cool guy.
I have an inside scoop that at the the kid cuddy a birthday party last week
that casey affleck toby mcguire and leonardo dicaprio are hanging out and if that doesn't
sound like a frightening crew to anyone what a frightening crew of guys is casey affleck toby
mcguire and leonardo dicCaprio hanging out in a club together.
The worst movie of
2027 was just
hatched.
What a frightening crew of guys.
But, you know, because
of how the world works, I'm sure
tons of women were throwing themselves
at them.
I don't know what to tell anyone about this.
I'm sure those women, I hope
these models are not feeling used. I hope these daughters of the multi-billionaires are not
feeling used. But until he starts dating a TGI Friday's hostess, then I have nothing to say
about these rich people being together. Right. Yeah, yeah. That's funny. Yeah. The model universe. I just saw a magazine spread. We're doing some spring cleaning in our house. I was looking through an old magazine.
That was still good.
And it had a spread about Steve Jobs' daughter, a famous equestrian model. It's amazing. Good for her. I'm just shocked that she hasn't dated leonardo dicaprio anyways now what
i'm really interested in is trip advisory well i'm glad you brought that up have you guys ever
used trip advisor i still fuck with trip advisor because i'm an old ass man and like i don't know
it's like one of the original apps but it's off... I'm off that shit. I'm off that shit.
We went,
we did one European vacation and got lied to so many times.
I'm like,
I don't trust a damn fool
on TripAdvisor ever again.
Damn.
To the degree
that you just started sounding
like Mr. T a little bit.
I pinned to the fool
that you were TripAdvisor.
No.
Not for me.
It's basically like,
I don't know.
So the top rated restaurant in Montreal on TripAdvisor.
Montreal, great city to visit.
Beautiful. You know, probably one of the, you know, a hot city for TripAdvisor.
Like one that they would be paying attention to.
It's not like it's in like Des Moines or something.
Although Des Moines, I'm told is lovely.
But, you know,
it's like Montreal is a big tourist destination. TripAdvisor is number one top rated restaurant
in Montreal, had 85 reviews, all five stars, and it was a complete fabrication. It did not exist.
The TripAdvisor page was only taken down when the CBC asked TripAdvisor for a comment on their
article. I just, this feels like a story that we see over and over again that doesn't really
get called out or like collated with other similar stories. But all of these user-generated
content sites from Facebook to TripAdvisor, YouTube, are too big for anyone to profitably moderate them.
In order for them to function well,
you would need to hire...
We would need to engage in another new deal.
The hiring tactic would need to be so much moderation.
This is your platform, Jack.
I'm saying... This is your platform, Jack. I'm saying.
This is your platform when you start go running.
Make the internet usable.
Do you know how many people that would require?
A lot.
Do y'all still use Yelp or anything for like restaurant reviews?
Sometimes, yeah.
Like in a pinch.
When I'm like at a restaurant and I'm like,
what do people say about this?
Not like what did the New York Times say about this?
Or, you know, what do people, you know, say if it hasn't been covered on, like, one of the food blogs?
So you, like, check on Yelp.
And, like, I've had some wild experiences with Yelp.
Like, we had somebody who we needed to, like, dig up our backyard to, you know, get ready for something like just like churn it, like churn the soil because we're going to like do something to it.
And the person.
Where are you living now, Jack?
What's going on with this?
This is when we lived in a 600 square foot bungalow in Santa Monica.
santa monica but the the person who we got was this like predatory person who when we left a bad review for him like he was just like he didn't do the work he left it half done he his dog like
gave our dog fleas and like attacked our dog like wait so we wrote this up and he like went
just went so wild on us and was like i'm'm going to track you guys down, do all this shit.
And we realized that's how he was.
He was just a Yelp listing that he had curated really well and then fought every negative listing that he had done.
And was basically just using that platform and its weaknesses.
Well, there you go. And I still there you go and i still use yelp
like i still use yelp sometimes like that's what that's how broken this shit is but
i don't know like the only solution is to make these things government run taxpayer funded parts
of our society that yeah like i i truly believe that like i estimate we're probably about 300
years from making something like that happen in
the United States, but it makes sense.
Like if you created a new, new deal and instead of building highways and bridges, you just
like made the internet work like that would be, I think people would get a lot out of
that, but it's, it's just not even a question that all of these things are private institutions that the billionaires who were the first to get there get to make all the decisions.
When people talk about the Internet as a public utility, things like Twitter and Facebook, I do really believe that people are figuring out that how bad the internet is for you.
It's obviously a new, it's a new form of technology.
And so for the past 20 years, it's kind of run amok.
But I do feel that even everyday people understand how terrible, are starting to understand how terrible it is for you.
So there is a chance, I do believe, that we can figure out some way to rein it
in you you are correct of the idea of making anything a public utility it's still people
still can't wrap their brains around it we should have a a seriously a an airline a nationally uh
a national airline where that we don't have to worry about any of this shit too and even despite
all the horrible
things that have happened in the holidays and everything like that people still the idea of
having a national i'm not saying the words right but uh nationally uh funded uh airline people
still aren't behind that idea even though it would make everyone's lives infinitely better
so much better i don't agree with that more just take over u U.S. Air. That's like, then the name makes sense.
You already got the name.
American Air.
U.S. American Airways.
Exactly.
I mean, high-powered rail lines, you know, like in Japan.
There we go.
There could be, you know, we, big business, like, took down the one from here to San Francisco.
But there should be stuff from Chicago to New to new york philly to new york
all of this stuff is just it's insane that it has not even it's not even a uh discussion conversation
yeah yeah it'll it'll be a conversation last in the united states like that that will be the very
last step is or yeah or one of the sad things is that it's only when the world's eyes are going to
be on our city
that these changes might actually happen. We got the Olympics coming in 2028. And they're
really trying to spruce up the metro line just so that we have some sort of infrastructure around
the city. And it's like, oh, you know what, now that everybody's going to be looking,
maybe we should do something serious about this. Maybe let's do like a little bit of
infrastructure help. It's not like let's help the people of the city because it's the right
thing to do. It's because,
oh, the Olympics are going to be here,
so we better look good
for the rest of the world,
which is, you know, sad.
Yeah, that's the way,
that's capitalism's solution
is like, well, put an Olympics there
and then fund the hell out
of a bunch of projects
and then you can just kind of
let them fall into it.
Also, really quickly on TripAdvisor,
TripAdvisor says that cafe gratitude is
the eighth best restaurant in los angeles okay that's all i gotta say about that cafe gratitude
is the eighth highest restaurant highest rated restaurant in los angeles and i don't know about
y'all but that's not that's just that's just plain old wrong yeah that's right over toast
you just reminded me that i i dated a person from Cafe Gratitude for a while, and she had this terrible dog that she would not do anything with when we were fooling around in the bedroom.
And it single-handedly made me break up with this person.
That's an issue.
This is just jumping on you?
Yeah, the dog's just barking and being crazy.
And then, you know, I'm just like, I can't do that.
I forget whatever reason I said, but I'm full of gratitude for that experience.
There you go.
I'm grateful.
I am grateful, yeah.
The dog is no longer in the bedroom.
For people who don't know, Cafe Gratitude is like,
is it vegan?
A vegan restaurant where a bowl of undercooked beans
is called, I am inspired yeah every everything is every menu item
is some sort of thing and every every time you buy something they're like here's a topic of
conversation for your meal yeah get out of here yeah true advisor eventually commented this was
a failure in human moderation practices like they're run by a fucking borg it was actually
failure in human moderation it was actually a prank by a comedian Borg. It was actually failure in human moderation.
It was actually a prank by a comedian
who wanted to prove
this point. He just put down
his own phone number for the listing, used
photos of his friend's basement, and
when people would call to book a table,
he would just tell people, like, ah, we're
just booked up for the next two months.
And then when asked about the menu,
he simply responded
uh we do tapas which is pretty great but yeah in 2017 the top rated restaurant in london
uh on trip advisor was briefly the shed at dull witch which was again someone's backyard someone's
backyard that they were just like doing a prank on. But nobody's really figured out how to monetize this.
Like that's when they'll actually fix it is when like someone starts actually making money
off of it and TripAdvisor starts getting sued.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
I don't know.
Don't trust them.
Beware.
Beware when you go on TripAdvisor.
Yeah.
The ones that I feel like you can trust on TripAdvisor is like things to do
as long as it's not a thing to do that
costs money like parks
and stuff. But even then
like it's overwhelmingly like these
people who write
magazine feature length
reviews and
stories. I feel like it's more
a place for people to publish their writing.
Or they write the place off because they're like, I saw one homeless person.
This place is gross.
Yeah, exactly.
Won't be going there again.
I guess this is all part of teaching people media literacy too, because I know, and it
sounds like you guys are the same thing, is that when I look at a thing, I'm like sifting
through the thing.
Almost like when I'm reading news articles as well as you're looking
for points, you know, I see little red flags pop up when I hear someone saying something that,
oh, that's not a real fact or that's an opinion, you know. But if people don't know how to sift
through this stuff, then they just will continue to get taken advantage of. And that goes for
news stories, to TripAdvisor, to Yelp, to all of that stuff.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Steve, of that stuff. Yeah, absolutely.
Well, Steve, such a pleasure having you as always.
Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
I have a show tonight on Wednesday at the Rainbow Room.
It's a banger with Morgan Jay and Jason Ellis.
I'm also going to be in the Bay at the end of the month on February 23rd and 24th in Santa Cruz and in Oakland on the 25th.
And then you could catch me next Wednesday, February 15th at my wife's What's Your Sign anniversary party at Wham-O Records here in Echo Park.
So that's all you can find.
And you can find me on Twitter at Big Hern and her and, and Instagram hernia at hernia on Instagram.
Amazing.
And is there a tweet or work of media that you've been enjoying?
Yes,
this is for,
uh,
this is for all the heads.
If you love standup comedy,
if you know LA comedy,
this is from Brendan Cooney at Cooney or die.
Uh,
he is a LA institution.
Very funny,
very funny standup comic,
just a white guy. He gets zero love. He looks like Bill Burr, but he always tweets about flappers. He loves flappers. But if you love standup comedy, you'll know who he is. He has a great podcast called Raccoon Tweeties, where he specifically talks about the L.A. standup comedy scene. And he's beloved by everyone who knows him.
But this is his tweet at Cooney or Die.
At Trader Joe's, they'll often compliment your items or tell you what to pair with them.
One time the cashier just said to me, you have dry skin.
But he's great.
You follow at Cooney or Die.
Brandon Cooney is hilarious.
I love him dearly. So follow at Cooney or Die. Brandon Cooney is hilarious. I love him dearly.
So follow him.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Daniel, where can people find you?
And is there a work of media you've been enjoying?
Oh, always.
You can find me all over the Internet at DJ underscore Daniel D.A.N.L.
I'm on Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok sometimes.
But you can find me on Twitch Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays doing the thing.
A couple pieces of media i like one is from hip-hop producer y2k and just music producer
general i'm the mr beast of chilling and then the other one i like is from a legendary uh
legendary poster and tdz aka creator christy amaguchi main ll beans full name was ladies love cool beans that's just fun gave
that one a full-ass retweet very nice follow them at at wapple house yeah all right you can find me
on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying uh was from Shigeharu tweeted, is this at Jack O'Brien at Daily
Zeitgeist, is this Apple ranking site on your radar?
Oh boy.
And it's just applerankings.com.
Oh yeah.
And it is now.
I spent half of the morning looking through this like pitchfork of apples.
What a site.
It just reminds me of like what the internet used to be.
You know, it's like this. This is a fun thing a fun website and it's also you know i'm excited because the
best apple is something called the sweet tango which what i don't think i've ever had it only
comes out in like september and october it sounds like it was named by Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade from Scent of a Woman.
Like, sweet tango.
They have Honeycrisp second.
And then the apple that I've recently become a fan of, the Sugar Bee apples, they've got way down the list.
They're like, it's a B-list, B-tier apple, which I don't necessarily agree with. But it's a it's a b-list b-tier apple which i don't necessarily agree with but it's it's a fun website thank you so much for pointing it out calling it to my attention and uh yeah i'll
link off to that in the footnotes you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find
us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook
fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the
information that we talked about in this episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy
super producer dj daniel yes sir what's a song you think people might enjoy today we're going
to recommend a uh a grammy winning artist who i think won maybe their first Grammy at the,
at the most recent,
totally controversy list.
Uh,
Grammys.
It's,
uh,
Robert Glasper.
Yeah,
exactly.
No,
Robert Glasper,
uh,
Robert Glasper,
uh,
fronts,
a band called R plus R equals now.
And the song is awake to you.
And,
um,
got to see him play at the Hollywood bowl opening up for Herbie Hancock.
And this was a fucking jam so uh go listen
to awake to you by r plus r equals now fronted by robert clasper amazing well the daily zeitgeist
is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple
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