The Daily Zeitgeist - 'Madame Web' Oscar Snub?, How To Dispose Of A Sex-Bot Discretely 01.08.25

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

In this episode, Jack and special guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by writer/comedian Joey Clift to discuss… that article we missed about Joe Biden being soooooo old, Madame Web being ineligi...ble for best picture at the Oscars, 2025 was supposed to be the year of sex bots and much more! Biden Was Having 'Good and Bad Days' As Far Back as 2021: Report - Newsweek Multiple movies, including Sonic 3 and Madame Web, are ineligible for Best Picture at the Oscars this year | GamesRadar+ More Than a Third of Oscar-Qualifying Films This Year Are Not Eligible for Best Picture The Sun on X: "REVEALED: Women will be having more sex with ROBOTS than men by 2025 https://t.co/TO87mbCAHw https://t.co/qKrTIIuAFP" / X Here's Why Memes About Women Having Sex With Robots In 2025 Are Taking Over Social Media REVEALED: Women will be having more sex with ROBOTS than men by 2025 – The Sun | The Sun It's 2025: The Time for Robot Sex Is Now... Or Is It? Man behind 2025 ‘sex with robots’ prediction slams ‘media fabrication’ of original claim | indy100 Sex robots - Do sex robots exist and how do they work? R/SexDolls (WARNING: This link is, ultimately, Not Safe For Children, Work, Your Browsing History or Life. The initial wiki page is fairly tame (and pretty entertaining), with no "graphic" imagery, but if you click through to the actual sub, you do so with the full knowledge that you may see some, uhhhh... things, and that you will immediately start getting weird Instagram ads for aforementioned things, and that you risk damaging yourself psychically and/or psychologically. Actually, nvm don't click this. Forget I even linked this in the footnotes *footnotes*.) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Scale of one to 10, Andrew, what would you rate your waffle cone making ability? Were you like a savant in making waffle cones? No, it's really easy. It's really, really easy. Because the two things, I mean, they basically, there's like a fucking little Christmas tree thing that you wrap the, you take the waffle off and then you just kind of roll it over over this cone and put in a little thing to dry and presumably harden it's pretty easy it's for any the dumbest like something that my hands would not do very well with but all you got to do is kind of like press yeah maybe yeah you said to me you
Starting point is 00:00:43 sound like LeBron James being like, all you got to do is just put the ball in the basket. Yeah. That's why I think it's pretty. I mean, the main thing that was good about being on the waffle cone station is you just eat mad broken pieces of you just kind of are. And you eat a lot of fresh waffle cone is so fucking good. It's like, yeah, I love that shit. Okay, Jack, I do hear I do. Have you changed anything recently? I mean, I changed my whole desk.
Starting point is 00:01:20 By the way, Andrew, remember last time you were like, you should get a walking. Did you get a walking? I got a walking. you should get a walking. Did you get a walking? I got a walking. Yes. That's great. Andrew, do you have a way you have a little. No, I do. You just think other people think it's because treadmill that's been running this whole time. No, I'm just sure. Yeah, I have a treadmill, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Have it, but there's a lot of power is on electronics near your. Yeah, no, that's what I'm thinking. It's not recorded yesterday with let me see if turning the power on the treadmill off. I mean, could it just be the the, you know, incessant were of you getting yoked for 2025? Yep, there was. It was even though the treadmill was like like off the power supply was on. And apparently the power supply is such that it creates a, a buzz in the background. So there we go. Now I know.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Oh yeah. Joey, this, this came out because last time I was on Jack, I took a break during the commercial break to like run a lap around his desk. And I was like, wait, like, it's fucking rules. Yeah. Second, I was just like, I, because I like that dad, like two hours of meetings right before this. So I was just like sitting here and like my legs were like falling asleep. Just got you so amped. You had to get some energy. I was like, God damn it. That was very inspiring. I was like, I should do that. I won't, but I should do that. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, God damn it. That was very inspiring. I was like, I should do that. I won't, but I should do that. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was extreme.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Let's go. But it's in the most empowering way. But yeah, it's working out. I did. I did. I walked seven miles yesterday while working. Nice. Fuck. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. Those I think I was just like excited to have it. You know what I mean? So like I'm doing crazy shit, but I mean, that sounds amazing. I feel like that's not like I'm getting older, though, is I'm real opinionated
Starting point is 00:03:15 and passionate about getting steps in. And it's like if I don't, I'm just like, fuck, ruin. Yeah. You know, it's really annoying, though. I have like the orering thing. That's my like step counter fitness tracker device. And it only counts the steps you take with your fingers. It only counts the steps you take with your fingers. Literally. Like if you're not, so I'm like typing and walking with my legs. And so it's like, you're not doing shit, man. You're just at your desk. It doesn't it doesn't recognize my steps, which are.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Yeah, I was like, fuck, I'm going to have to pay somebody to walk around with. You have to get your little tech deck out, Jack. I know. Oh, my God. I have the sickest skate park on my desk. That's the word is you've just been grinding a rail with your tech deck. It's like, wait, what is it? Just as like, what is that sound in the back of that clickety clack? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Don't worry about it, Narc. This is a. It's in my book in my heel flips. My thing is my favorite thing. Get like a real skater attitude from my tech deck. Yeah, whatever. Just try to stop me, cops. Oh, man. Good job, everyone.
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Starting point is 00:05:52 And you can find it on the I Heart Radio app on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hello the Internet and welcome to season three, 70 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist! A production of BioHeart Radio. This is a podcast, yes, this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. We now have a YouTube channel. We drop an episode a week on there, YouTube slash at Daily Zeitgeist Pod. You can go check us out on YouTube. Usually it's the Tuesday episode, so usually it's this episode. But we've been having a bit of technical difficulties. Los Angeles is built so shoddily that
Starting point is 00:06:35 when it gets windy here, everybody's power goes out. And so we're gonna do the video episode tomorrow when hopefully the wind stops blowing. It is Wednesday, January 8th, 2024. My name's Jack O'Brien, aka Mr. Kintner. That's courtesy of Lockerarone, Lacharone. I was talking about my older girlfriend in middle school who I was nervous because she had a long experience Frenching and I did not have a lot of experience. And so I got really nervous. And then because I was being weird and nervous, I made up that like things were really bad at home
Starting point is 00:07:26 when I was talking to her. And then she dumped me because I was a bummer. But anyways, Lakeroni in the discord said, Jack's older girlfriend was Mrs. Kintner from Jaws. Shout out to Lakeroni. And I'm thrilled to be joined in our miles seat by a hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer. You know him from the Yo Is This Race's podcast. It's Andrew T! It is a black omen to podcast with such poor takes. takes Rest yourself until such time as hot takes can be Produced you will obey this my council
Starting point is 00:08:21 I don't know how he did that. That's not for everyone. And then fuck me to death. No, that's for Ratu. Did you watch it? Yeah, I watched it a wee bit too stoned in the theater. Makes you feel like you are too high. As somebody who doesn't get high anymore, I still felt like I was like, oh, I feel very uncomfortable in my own skin. Yeah. And then, um, because the, for some reason,
Starting point is 00:08:53 I mean, look, I guess it's the best way to do this, but you know, if you're in the writers guild, they send out screeners and things, but nowadays they send out, um, screener links, which is fine. But there were multiple points I forgot and, or didn't understand. So I went back and rewatched it, parts of it in the parking lot on my phone. Uh, which is the single intended. And I still didn't get it that much, but, uh, oh,
Starting point is 00:09:22 oh, the voice of God, that was a really good warlock. I gotta say, has immediately entered the zeitgeist. We're doing it. It's, it's, it feels like my, my diaphragm has sucked my lungs out of where they used to be. Yeah. It's not, it's not pleasant. It feels like you're like speaking with a mouth that's inside your body. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:52 If your diaphragm had a... Same from the video take, but I'm pointing on my body to where it feels like I'm talking. And it's, I'm just like, oh. Oh. I did enjoy it though like I mean enjoy it like I don't think it's a perfect movie I think it's a movie that I'm glad was made and is yeah interesting time at the movies for sure which I will say I think we talked about this off mic, but have you guys seen Amelia Perez? It's that kind of show. Yeah, it's thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant TV writer,
Starting point is 00:10:36 performer and enrolled member of the Cowlitz Indian tribe who's written on shows for Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, DreamWorks, and the Netflix animated series Spirit Rangers. He's the creator of the brilliant web series Gone Native. Please welcome back to the show the hilarious, the talented Joey Clift. Yeah, that's right. It's me. That that that that Joey Clift, Joey Clift, that that that that Joey Clift, Joey Clift, Joey Clift. That's right. That's the Final Fantasy VII
Starting point is 00:11:06 one-winged angel theme for Sephiroth, written by Nobuo Yumezu. Every time I'm on this show. I knew I didn't recognize that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you aren't a dork. Well, Joey, it's great to have you. Andrew, thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. On short notice
Starting point is 00:11:24 with Miles and Super Producer Justin, both of their internet and power was knocked out by the wind storm. Feels like they blew away to the land of Oz. Yeah. This is a very movie centric. I still haven't seen Wicked. I haven't either. I haven't. seen wicked. I have realized I have it We should see it as they go. Let's see you wait. Let's yeah. All right. That's the rest of this episode
Starting point is 00:11:50 Gravity together we can throw it on in a small window Make that the main window. Um, I did not realize that they're apparently they're in the city of shiz Hell, yeah, or like the school the school they go to is called Shiz University. Oh, hell yeah. Craziest ass like I know it's like they don't grow up in the 90s. Do they not know that like Shiz is? I mean, no. Yeah. Yes, a producer, Victor did see Wicked and said it was throwing them off the whole time.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like, yeah, dude, you can't come in here like was throwing him off the whole time. I think I'm being like, yeah dude, you can't come in here like that. This is the shiz. Wait, what? I mean, that feels like a name that you write down like first draft and then you're like, I'm gonna change this at some point and then nobody asks you to change it
Starting point is 00:12:36 and you're like, okay, I guess it's shiz. I guess it's the shiz. Shiz for Pete, for like, that's what people used to substitute for shit, I think. Yeah, or the shiz. The shiz for Pete, for like, that's what people used to substitute for shit. I think. Yeah. Or the 90s is the shiz. Yeah, that's, that is like the most dated like it's so dated that like I hadn't even thought about it since eighth grade.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I'm curious whether it's from the original like, uh, book somewhere in there. There's just another city. There's the Emerald city book somewhere in there. There's just another city. There's the Emerald city and hers shiz. And those are the two cities we know about. The dog pound was referencing the original wizard of Oz. Wow. Wow. Wow. Cause that, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:13:17 That was a song on doggy style was the shiz knit. Yeah. And they also, they knew that if they changed it, wicked tech talk would be pissed. I'm sure, they knew, they knew that if they changed it, wicked TikTok would be pissed. That's true, but it's so weird just even learning about it. It's been the fact that I can't get out of my head about that movie. Was we get novel then theatrical experience, then film or was this close the Wikipedia page?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah, that's all right. We, you know what? We don't need to answer that question. According to Victor, correct. So cool, answered for us, great. So a novel play. I guess that makes sense. True triple threat.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Who's ever heard of such a thing? Jurassic Park, no hit Broadway musical that I'm aware of. So in your face, Jurassic Park. Yeah. Okay. But real quick, just, just quick round of pitches. If we're doing a Jurassic Park musical, I'm thinking from the Raptors perspective. Oh, yes. That's funny. So what is the Raptors I want song? Is it I Want It to Get a Human? Ultimately, the hero. Yeah. Yeah. Ultimately the hero of the film, not necessarily the book. I would like to eat that guy.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Amelia Perez. Uh, haven't seen it. I have not seen it. I've, I've watched the discourse. Wing and wang around it. And indeed I feel like I need to give it one more beat before. It is like it immediately like I just I just saw that it got nominated for the most awards and it was on Netflix and I was like well I'm putting together this adjustable height desk so I'll put it on and it like really has I would be surprised if it doesn't like also win a lot of awards at the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It has like real crash vibes. It's like a big audacious like, but there's also parts of it that I really enjoy. Like, like I, some of the audacity I actually enjoy, but it's, it's a mess and it has like some of the most embarrassing moments of a movie that like I've seen. But I highly recommend like, I mean, it's it's a roller coaster. I highly recommend people watch it, not because it's like knows what it's doing all the time, but it's a it's a blast. It's a fucking mess, but holy shit. Yeah, I mean, sometimes it's fun to just watch a movie that just goes for it and swings through the fences and it's like, does it hit?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes. It seems like it has hit, but anyways. Joey, it's great to have you is what I was saying. We're going to get to know you a little bit better. Amelia Perez of this podcast. Do itably.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Before we get to know you a little bit better by asking you, you're overrated, underrated, what you've been searching. Some of the stories we'll be talking about. We never really got to talk about that wall street journal. And there's also a New York times story about Biden being like so old, which I know we're not breaking news, but it was pretty wild to see like what the people around him in his administration were having to do to like cover up his oldness from day one.
Starting point is 00:16:44 So that happened like that. This Wall Street Journal article dropped, I think the last day, the day after we recorded our last episode. So I just wanted to take a quick moment to look at that because I also think it somewhat ties into what we're about to live through in the Trump administration since he, I don't know if you guys are aware of this,
Starting point is 00:17:04 also really fucking old. Wait, really? I thought he was. And like the easiest to manipulate human being the world. So we'll talk about that. We always like to have a segment where we check in on Sean Hannity's class class consciousness. And so he had some pretty interesting things to say about how we need to leave the, leave the rich alone. Um, because they're, they're the ones who are going to make you rich with their big tips,
Starting point is 00:17:37 trickling down. The inverse of reality, Like the stingiest people, the stingiest human beings that I've ever encountered in my time as a service worker. So we'll talk about that. And of course we'll talk about sex bots. We gotta get to the sex bots. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'm ready. It's just, of all the things that Silicon Valley is inevitably you're gonna like roll out from Ford's actually ready to be on the market. Sexbots is the number one on my list. Can't wait. Yeah, it's coming. Can't wait for buggy sexbots.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It will rip your dick off. Yeah. And speaking of award-winning movies, Madame Webb is not going to be nominated for best picture in the Oscars. No, I genuinely loved Madame Webb. Madame Webb was so fun.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It unfortunately failed to qualify for the inclusion and representation standards that the Academy put in place. That are like, I think a lot of films qualify for by accident, but they manage to not qualify for any of the requirements. So we'll talk about that, all of that, plenty more. But first, Joey, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:19:01 Okay, so here are the three most recent things that I've Googled. One is, are 50 mile per hour winds deadly? Second, are 100 mile per hour winds deadly? The answer to that for 50 is not really. The answer for 100 is yes. Wow. And the third thing that I've searched is, sad pictures of Garfield.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Because, you know, I was trying to find a post about Garfield and sometimes you just gotta find a sad picture of Garfield. That genuinely does tell me a lot about how your mind works because I'm gonna let you know right now, my third search would have been to 75 mile an hour winds. Yeah. No, I mean, I got my answer.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I was like, oh, 100 mile an hour winds are deadly. Okay, cool. Are we seeing 100 right now? I think it's supposed to be 50 to 100 potentially. It's a big range, Los Angeles Weather Service. That's a, Jesus. What is happening? I didn't even realize this was a thing.
Starting point is 00:19:55 I mean, we are recording this while in a tornado right now for sure. Yeah, just in the vortex. Twisters. There's towels going by our windows. This is the twister from Twisters, sleeping off the Golden Globes, right folks? Am I right?
Starting point is 00:20:10 I didn't watch all of the Golden Globes, so I don't think I got that reference, but. Oh, I didn't watch any of it, nor did I watch Twisters. I just assume Twister isn't it. You just assume that one best actor. Yeah, right? Yeah, probably. I mean, maybe I also didn't watch the Golden Globes.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Twister's one, right? Twister, the Twister, the Twister? It was nominated for the best cinematic theatrical experience or whatever the one was that I think Wicked ended up winning that. I mean, it was called Twisters, so there was more than one Twister in this movie. So some of them had the main Twisters.
Starting point is 00:20:44 The main Twister, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, did you guys watch it? The weird twister. No. Nah, I genuinely hear that it's very fun. It's a lot of fun. People keep getting sucked off into the sky as miles.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Just like to point out out loud while he was watching it to her majesty. Sad pictures of Garfield. Uh, maybe Garfield said because also ineligible for the Oscars according to this article, not enough diversity in the Garfield movie. He should have looked at, I mean, look, best animated, best animated feature at least should have been like something that was nominated for. It was great.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Oh yeah. Are you a huge, you're, that's right. You're huge. Joey's, Joey's Dr. Garfield. Yeah. I'm Dr. Garfield. Yeah. I forgot your Dr. Garfield. Yeah. I'm genuinely wearing like a Garfield cardigan right now. Oh my God. Yo listeners, you're getting fucked by not having this,
Starting point is 00:21:39 by not having video. Yeah. So that is a beautiful cardigan with a big old Garfield on one of the sides What is something Joey that you think is underrated? Something that I think is underrated. So I'm gonna say professional wrestling audiences So I'm a really big fan of professional wrestling. I've talked about this on the show previously and Earlier this week. They had the first Monday Night Raw on Netflix. And as part of that, they had Hulk Hogan come out to promote his weird anti-woke beer brand, Real American Beer. And this was in Los Angeles and the live professional wrestling audience booed the fuck out of him. It's like to the point where like Hulk Hogan, 70 year old Hulk Hogan, one of the biggest stars in wrestling was visibly rattled by how heavily
Starting point is 00:22:25 this audience was booing this old weird racist. Wow. It's just this beautiful thing about professional wrestling in that like, because it's like a predetermined sport where you know the winners and losers, but the one thing they can't predetermine is how the audience is gonna react to things.
Starting point is 00:22:42 So this is something where they clearly brought them out with a level of pomp and circumstance, assuming the audience was going to be like, yeah, the Hulkamania guy. But it's just like decades of that guy being like a shit and like an open racist and also all the mega stuff, the audience just let him have it. And it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Just like couldn't rip his shirt off during all of the mega stuff. There was also a very funny bit in the heat. So his thing is that he tears his shirt off during a lot of the mega stuff. Yeah, there was also a very funny bit in the heat. So his thing is that he tears his shirt off. So he tore it like half off and then it like fell off camera. And then he like tried to do his promo very quickly because he was probably getting really rattled by the booze. And then he like very sadly walked away
Starting point is 00:23:18 and the camera stayed on him as they revealed that his shirt that he tore off was now around his ankles. So we had to kind of shuffle away. Like a piece of toilet paper, a piece of toilet paper, just dragging behind. Wow. It is just like, it is something that I feel like there's a stereotype of professional wrestling audiences
Starting point is 00:23:35 being, you know, like kind of a certain way, but like really professional wrestling fans are like very progressive nowadays. The average professional wrestling fan is like probably more on the, you know, woke side of the spectrum or whatever. And it's just, you know, see. Yeah, I am definitely suffer from biases around professional wrestling fans where, like,
Starting point is 00:23:55 any time I find out one of my friends or like, you know, someone I like is a big professional wrestling fan, I'm like, real? Wow, really? And that's and that's wrong. I fart. Yeah. And I just judge them. I'm going, I'm going down. No, no, no. No. Well, that the crazy thing is all my entire basis for looking down on professional wrestling is how much I love actual combat sports,
Starting point is 00:24:22 which is comprised of audiences of the literal worst people on earth. So. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just, yeah. What, who am I to look down on anyone? Are you MMA or boxing? Yeah, although I really can't,
Starting point is 00:24:40 no, I can't really watch boxing either. Yeah, it's MMA via, uh, Nazi slippery slope Brazilian jujitsu is Nazi slippery slope, Brazilian jujitsu. Is that like, what are the rules of that? It really, I mean, it's like even just my medium amount of time and fight gyms. It is like, I don't, I mean, I don't know which direction the causality arrow goes, but that shit is a one way street to proud boy town. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It's all bunch of fascists with cauliflowered ears. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's the testosterone and the fucking low information like environment. I don't know, I mean, low information and very hierarchical environment and violent. Pure fascism, of course. When it's the sort of thing where it's just like, I was able to work out and train my way
Starting point is 00:25:34 into being a good fighter, so why can't you work out your way into owning a home? Yeah, yeah. It's true, I mean, it is. Have you tried to lift your way out of debt? It's all about grindset, it is. You have to be your way out of debt. It's a it's all about grindset, Joey. I have a couple of seminars, some webinars to sell you if you want to really like level your game up.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I don't know. It's just like fucking. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think whatever it takes to be a fighter or think you can fight or think that you can and should fight another man. Usually almost it's men. It's the men is the problem. Um, really makes you into, I think I guess it just primes you to be a fascist. It would be my guess. But you know what? I don't fucking know. Anyway, they're all little Nazi fight clubs except for the like handful of that art.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I do feel like professional wrestling audiences, to your point, are more a part of the show than really like any other audience. Yeah. You know, like, I mean, there are like football stadiums where they're like, we're the 12th man. And like we pride ourselves on that. But it's not like they're not like getting camera time throughout, like as important things are happening, like people aren't walking through the stadium, like, uh, to, to like score a touchdown, you know, it's like the wrestling audiences are right, right there and be like giving feedback and be like playing a part in
Starting point is 00:27:00 the, in the show, which is kind of cool. Well, and because it's a, because it's a live show every week, like there are real, like an audience's reaction can actually dictate like the creative direction that a wrestler's storyline or career goes. And it is this interesting thing where it's like, you might have a wrestler that they're pushing as like a, you know, as a face or a good guy.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And then the audience just completely rejects them. And they're like, oh, maybe we're not gonna put that guy on TV. It's kind of like if in Star Wars Episode One, if they could get live audience reaction halfway through Act One and realize that everybody hated Jar Jar Banks and they're just like, oh, he's just going to die off in the second act. And now the story is about Watto. What about the Watto guy?
Starting point is 00:27:44 The little crowd favorite Watto. Yeah, what about this Watto guy? Good old crowd favorite, Watto. So by that logic, look out for a return of Hollywood Hulk Hogan. Wasn't that when he did a bad turn and had the beard and was bad guy? Yeah, well, I think that the reveal is that he's been always a bad guy behind the scenes. But his actual on-camera persona, yes, was Hollywood Hulk Hogan.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Yeah, maybe they take the booze and they're like, what is, maybe we have something powerful here. That's so interesting. Yeah, I mean, the way you put it of like, the audience is the realest part. Like, I'm like, yeah, yeah, they're the real athletes. What was really nice about this, because it was the first time
Starting point is 00:28:23 that they aired Monday Night Raw on Netflix and this was like a $5 billion deal or a $6 billion deal or something like that. So all the Netflix execs were in the audience and Hulk Hogan getting booed so mercilessly as he's trying to be a good guy tells me the Netflix execs are going to be like, maybe I'll put that guy on TV anymore, which is beautiful. Yeah. Way to go Monday Night Raw audiences. Yeah, you did it. You've done some good work at a time. It's very dark right now, so we needed a glimmer of hope. Thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Joey, what is something you think is overrated? Something I think is overrated is I'm going to say Miles Gray. Now that he's not here, we can finally say. Oh, yes. Oh, thank God. Just kidding. Just kidding. He's great. I love Miles. So I'm going to say the thing I think is overrated is drinking water. I think that like, look, drinking water is a thing that I know we have to do,
Starting point is 00:29:15 but you're just going to pee it out later. It feels like it's just a waste of energy, you know? Mm hmm. OK. Yeah, I like that. Do you have a beverage that you prefer to drink or you're just saying all liquids? Fuck them. I guess I've been working out with a personal trainer for the past couple of years. So I guess protein shakes. Can I just drink that instead of water? Yeah, pure protein, baby.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah. Wait, Andrew, do you drink protein shakes and stuff? I have a thing, a Costco container of protein powder that I have maybe five every 10 months. This is something five containers or five shakes. No, five shakes, like five ounces I suppose, or whatever of the pile. It's not going fast. It's been, it's been there for a minute. There's a world where I need to throw it away. Um, but I'm not going to investigate. It's genuinely expensive. So I totally get being like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:10 expired a year ago, but does way powder expire. Fine. I don't think it can powder. I hope it doesn't. How does it go bad? Yeah. Doesn't have any liquid in it. It's good. Good forever. Oh no. I, I did, I did, um did take the whole, this bag is, you know, about the size of a bag of rice. It's however many gallons. And I did hydrate, I did hydrate the whole thing in the bag. So it's just been sloshing around in my cupboard. Jack's doing the math. Jack's doing the math. Now I was actually trying to think of why we called bean bags, bean bags.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Did beans used to come in extremely large bags Because I feel like rice bag is the bag that is that size that I've seen more often Yeah, you know, I've never seen a bag of beans that is as big as you know a bean bag chair I'm assuming is named that because it's the biggest bag that people were familiar with. I don't know. Just be bagging. That's what my brain's doing. Well, I should be talking to you guys and hosting the podcast.
Starting point is 00:31:12 So I have to say an honest assessment of what I've replaced water with in my diet is I've gotten really into like peach flavored beverages, specifically like imported Japanese peach drinks are like fantastic. It's the sort of thing where my girlfriend and I have, she recently moved in with me, and we have just a stash of peach beverages,
Starting point is 00:31:31 just in case. And yeah, so. You never know. How many different types of beverages are we talking about here? Oh, now we're getting into it. I'm so excited about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:41 So we have like a peach flavored water, it's very much water, but with like a light peach flavor. That's kind of our daily drinker. And then when we're celebrating, we've got this like sparkling cider peach drink that's like fantastic. And that's for special occasions. And then, you know, if you're ever just having a hard day, we also have this like, it's like
Starting point is 00:31:58 a canned peach drink where the aluminum part of the can is clear plastic. We get those from NYISO. They're like $1.50, and those are also very refreshing. So right now three. But like I would say every couple of weeks we'll do peach drink taste tests where we'll just go to a store and buy like five different brands of peach drink to figure out which one we like best. And that Garfield and pro wrestling is my life.
Starting point is 00:32:20 That's my personality. Yeah. Have you had a clearly Canadian peach sparkling drink? They're very sweet to my memory, but I'm just gonna throw it on the list. I love clearly Canadian. That's like a thing from my childhood that I then start like, for some reason they sold it at like the bookstore I went to when I lived in Dayton, Ohio in like the early nineties. And then I never saw it again for until like it's had a resurgence recently. And they've just like not touched the like packaging at all.
Starting point is 00:32:54 It's just the same the same thing, which is one of the big appeals of it. Oh, I love it. Clearly, Canadians, the best. I feel like it's it's having a bit of a moment. If it's for sale right now, I'm looking at it. Clearly Canadians, the best. I feel like it's it's having a bit of a moment. If it's for sale right now, I'm looking at it. The Canadians need a win, you know. That's true. Shout out to them. You know, call it clearly American now.
Starting point is 00:33:16 It's going to be beautiful. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about our outgoing president. We'll be right back. and we'll come back and talk about our outgoing president. We'll be right back. I'm Jason Alexander and I'm Peter Tilden. And together on the Really No Really podcast, our mission is to get the true answers to life's baffling questions like,
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Starting point is 00:34:26 It's called Really No Really and you can find it on the iHeartRadio app on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Windows are blowing open, lights are flickering, we're still on. This is like the Hanukkah origin story, this episode, that we can keep recording, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:53 It is kind of a miracle. Isn't that the Hanukkah? The Hanukkah one is like that they only had a tiny amount of oil, but it was able to burn for eight nights. I believe that is correct. Yes. And this is the episode.
Starting point is 00:35:06 That is precisely what's happening here. That is exactly where the last three people who still have power in Los Angeles. Okay. So what, what religion is this going to start? Oh man, it's going to be bad. Whatever is going on. Yeah. Be fucked up. The Amelia Perez thing is going to mix with the WWE thing in a weird way that none of us saw coming.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And it's just going to all of us regret. I guess it's whatever count Orlok is. Is he the devil? I don't know. Anyway, let me know. Hit me. I don't think he's the devil. He's like one of the apostles. He's one of. Anyway, let me know. Hit me.
Starting point is 00:35:47 The last supper. So that's like the origin story of the vampire myth is kind of like how I took that. Or it's like one of the first of the vampire myths. So it's like, I don't know. I actually did watch a YouTube about this. Um, it was, you know, so close to Bram Stoker's Dracula, the novel that it was legally actionable and won its case. Great. But Bram Stoker copied it. No other way. Yeah. Okay. It copy Bram Stoker. Yeah. But like, you know, in an era when it was like, they were like, this will be fine. And Bram Stoker's widow, I believe sued them successfully, but they, they were so little money left that she got nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:26 So, but the other thing, apparently this was the origin of you can kill Dracula with sunlight. Yeah, this is the origin of that. Yeah. I mean, that's the big... Before it was like more Game of Thrones-y. Just fuck them up. Yeah, chop their head off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smash them in the...
Starting point is 00:36:43 Just punch them a bunch. Yeah. Just kick them in the head a couple times. You can do it with whatever weapon you want, but it's just about racking up hit points. You just gotta get that bar down to zero however you do it. Yeah, just DPS, have a tank, have a healer. It is a weird choice,
Starting point is 00:36:56 because as we've talked about, Robert Eggers, Bobby Eggs, does have this really kind of engrossing historic vision where you feel like you're being transported back to this time. So it's a weird decision that he has that energy like life bar for Count Orlok, the whole film, anytime he appears on where you can see how much life he has left. Yeah. Yeah. Every time he's like, like getting power ups, he says, like, whole ham makes him much stronger.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. And then the third act, he shows up and then his power bar forms. And then, and then three more bars fill up. So you're like, oh, oh man, he's about to fuck on his neck. That's just glowing and sort of pulsing. Yeah. Camera locks right onto it it every time you move. It's so weird, but it's good. The movie is good. And I won.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah, I won. It took me a lot of tries, but I finally won. Yeah. Well, on to somebody whose power bar I'd really... His life bar. I would really like to be able to see Joe Biden. That would be really helpful if we could... If we had life bars so that we could just like see, Biden. Spending the day in town or lock. That would be really helpful if we could, if we had life bars so that we could just like see,
Starting point is 00:38:08 compare how much life, how much energy, life force was left for our respective candidates. Somebody who I think has to be blank and read, right about now, Joe Biden. Right at the beginning of the break, right after we stopped recording for 2024, an article dropped to the Wall Street Journal about how, like they knew he was in bad shape, not like early in 2024, or like 2020, you know, like before he started the like, like right when he started his administration,
Starting point is 00:38:47 like there's an anecdote in this article from 2021, where they're like, they cancel a meeting and they're like, well, he has good days and bad days and today was a bad day. So we're going to address this tomorrow. That conversation occurred in the spring of 2021, just months into the Biden administration. That is fucking. And they tried to run him again and then make us feel bad for being like,
Starting point is 00:39:16 he's maybe I don't know. Maybe he's too old. He had an off night. What? What do you part of Q? Sometimes presidents got an app, you know? Right. Oh, God. I mean, the retrospect of that is so fucking insane that their pitch was like, who doesn't have an off night? And I'm just like, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:35 You cannot have your off night cannot be the presidential debate. Yeah. Like, oh, right. Yeah. Especially when there are like questions about your personality. Yeah. Like, yeah. Especially when there are like questions about your physicality. Oh my God. And especially when, yeah, the truth of the situation is as early as months after you were inaugurated, the people who like run the department of defense were
Starting point is 00:40:03 saying you have good days and bad days already. Like it was like, it's a fucking coin flip if this guy's going to be able to sit in a meeting and retain the information being presented to him. To be fair, we didn't see him on his good days. He was doing back flips. He was fucking jumping jacks. He was doing tech deck like he was doing jumping jacks, he was doing sick,
Starting point is 00:40:25 he was doing tech deck moves, he was great. Joe, I love your three exercises. Look, I'm in the middle of a hurricane right now, so any comedic specifics I'm coming up with, I'm proud of. I like it. This is, this is, this is where your brain goes. What are, what are my three exercises to show that I'm not losing my mind?
Starting point is 00:40:52 I guess it's just walking, walking on a treadmill under a desk. Walking, occasionally taking a sip of protein powder. Yeah. Just a, just a teaspoon. And doing the count or lock voice. Like one of the scary things that's implied is just like how easy the government is to completely manipulate when you have somebody this infirm who is like being, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:16 cordoned off from any media from any of like the, from there's a quote from Democratic, you know, Congress people who are like, yeah, I don't know, man. I like never saw him when I like when I was on this committee and I was like the junior member, I would see Obama like every couple of weeks with Biden. You just like never saw him, which, yeah, like the implication there is like, that's really dangerous because, you know, he could be being manipulated. He could be, uh, you know, do just like, who knows what the fuck is happening.
Starting point is 00:41:52 There's no accountability when this person is just completely off in the dark being like held behind closed doors. Who knows who is making the real decisions? Um, that's what's implied in the case of Biden. In the case of Trump, like we're seeing it happen right in front of us. Like, it's just everybody is like, oh, my God, the the power grab getting has never been this good. We're we can just fucking sweep in here.
Starting point is 00:42:22 But I think it's maybe just always been like that. I mean, look, it's been like that. I'm fucking old as shit. And, you know, that's the president that I came into the world. Like that's what they were doing with fucking Reagan the whole time. So like.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah, Reagan was also a case of, maybe we should have that age limit. I don't know. We got the age limit on one side. Maybe we should think about having it on the side that would actually fucking matter. Or just like the doctors that are giving them their mental competency exams, they should just, those medical licenses should be up for review every time they have to do this. Because it is, they are clearly lying to us every single time. Well, yeah, I mean, there's the Trump thing of like, he's the most healthy human I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:43:08 or something. Yeah, they're just like fucking hype men. The people giving them the things, they're like, oh, yo, this guy is fucking virile. Yeah. Yeah. And it's tough because I mean, it's not just like Biden, Trump. It's like there was a new story a couple of days ago of a sitting member of, I believe, Congress, just a couple of days ago, like it's 82, he had a fall during, while they were being sworn in or something like that. And then there was, I think that this came out, I want to say in December, there was a new story of, I believe a member of Congress who just nobody had really seen and hadn't made any meetings for like six months or so.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And then they came to find out that the reason she hadn't been making her meetings is cause she was in like a dementia ward. Like, you know, and it's, and she's also of an elevated age. And it's just like, yeah, maybe that's not somebody who should be like deciding whether or not I have health insurance, you know. I like the idea of elevated age.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Maybe you're just not on my level, bro. All right. I'm of an elevated age. I'm on my grind set. Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's it is maybe we're not old enough to have a grind set. Andrew, is that in your classroom teaching?
Starting point is 00:44:15 Oh my God. It's about, yeah, just grinding, grinding what remains of your cognitive abilities down the dust, apparently. Yeah, grind set is the sound my knee makes when I stand up. Hey, yo. The rain's coming.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It seems bad. It just, yeah. Is there any mechanism for doing anything about this at all? Like, it's such a teardown job. Like, that's the thing that just keeps hitting me in the brain over and over is like,
Starting point is 00:44:44 all of this shit is such a tear down. Like it's, it needs to be like the, the fucking constitution, like everything just needs to be completely reevaluated. Yeah. It's almost like America as a weird country. Huh? You think a bad one, a pretty bad one. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm a little bit curious of the interest, I guess, of fucking, you know, hearing people out like what the what is the fucking like lie that like these people like, you know, similarly like like Diane Feinstein's like handlers, like what do they tell themselves that this is OK? Is it just weekend at Bernie's all the way? They're just like see their pants and they're just like, Oh fuck, fuck, fuck,
Starting point is 00:45:27 fuck. If we don't just like keep this, keep this lie going without any eye to the future, then our present is like somehow inconvenienced. Like the fuck is wrong with these people that surely they must know this can't go on forever and this is not good. It's a weird dynamic though, because he is both like not all there, but also an extremely vindictive and the most powerful person on the planet. And so you're just like, kind of like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:46:00 you're he's both the boss you're scared of and also somebody that you recognize as like not up to the task of like getting dressed by himself, let alone like running the country. And so how, you know, I'm not saying I understand or like that it's acceptable, but I understand how it happens, which is just like everybody like kind of just quickly builds up this scaffolding
Starting point is 00:46:26 to like prop him up and then like immediately accepts that that's the way it has to be. And he like people who it's not just like the elderly, it's, you know, people who have had, you know, uh, neurological injuries or, you know, like strokes and things like that are uniquely bad at like knowing what they're like, what, what they've lost the ability to do. Yeah. Right. And so it's like that, that's just, it's a weird, it's just like a bad, a bad situation.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I feel like. I mean, I think it's like, there's like an optimistic, it's like, there's a, the, the optimistic way to look at it and the, it's like there's a, the optimistic way to look at it and the pessimistic way to look at it. The optimistic way to look at it is, you know, a lot of what we saw in sort of the Biden administration kind of in his, you know, potentially running for a second term is people saying like, well, you know, I think he's just the man for the job to win the election.
Starting point is 00:47:19 He beat Trump in the last election. So blah, blah, blah, blah. And then the pessimistic one is just a lot of people who were like, oh, I'm like in the Biden administration, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'd be in the Harris administration because, you know, like I don't necessarily have the cache there. So like if I keep him propped up for a while, I'll like save my spot, you know? So it's yeah, I imagine it's like a mix of those two things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:40 LinkedIn logic is what's killing the country. It's like this would just be better for my resume if he wins. So, yeah. Right. It's just rank selfishness up and down. Yeah, that seems like what it is. Oh, my God. Fucking hate these people. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Let's let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Madame Webb. We'll be right back. I'm Jason Alexander and I'm Peter Tilden. And together on the Really No Lily podcast, our mission is to get the true answers to life's baffling questions like, why they refuse to make the bathroom door
Starting point is 00:48:22 go all the way to the floor. We got the answer. Space junk block your cell signal. The astronaut who almost way to the floor? We got the answer. Will space junk block your cell signal? The astronaut who almost drowned during a spacewalk gives us the answer? We talk with the scientist who figured out if your dog truly loves you and the one bringing back the wooly mammoth. Plus, does Tom Cruise really do his own stunts? His stuntman reveals the answer.
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Starting point is 00:49:07 and you can find it on the iHeartRadio app on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we are 10 days out, nine days out from the Academy Awards being announced on January 17th. One movie that definitely won't get nominated for best picture is Madam Webb. It sounds like it's a fun movie. Yeah. It's also the best of those Spider-Man movies that got put out this year.
Starting point is 00:49:46 What were the other ones? Craven and Venom 3. Oh, Venom 3. Okay. I guess Craven is the quote unquote best, but Madame Web is the best. Yeah. Well, I think that Madame Web, it's just like what's so fun about Madam Web is it's basically watching people take the biggest possible swings on screen
Starting point is 00:50:08 and just like whiffing it every single time. Like, it's just like, get together with your friends and watch it on like a Saturday night. It's like a fun watch. I really liked it. I really liked watching it. I had a lot of fun. There's some bizarre CG in it that is like truly delightful.
Starting point is 00:50:27 You're just like, the ADR is insane. The thing that is so curious, having now worked in a little bit of television, I'm just like, how is this allowed? Like how did this get approved to be like put in theaters? Just in terms of pieces of the craft. I'm just like, this is wild to be like put in theaters, just in terms of pieces of the craft. I'm just like, this is wild to me. The star of Madam Web to me was the Pepsi can.
Starting point is 00:50:52 There's a floating Pepsi can in it. That's so amazing. There's several scenes of a Pepsi can that Madam Web is trying to open. Yeah, I thought the Pepsi can was that like she had it, but like never drank out of it. What was the deal with the Pepsi can? I think I just like saw that meme without volume on,
Starting point is 00:51:08 so I don't know what it is. So she's at a baby shower for a character. Spider-Man. It's a character, yeah, baby shower for Peter Parker, but for probably so many legal reasons, they can't say Peter Parker. There's literally a point in this sequence where they say, oh, what's the baby's name?
Starting point is 00:51:24 And then she goes to say Peter, and then a car honks. You can't hear Peter No, yeah. No, this is all real. This really is like Parker. Yeah. Yeah a hundred percent. It's like Austin Powers Didn't realize he didn't have the rights to Spider-Man, but still has to produce a movie. Yeah Yeah, so so this Pepsi, it's at Car Honk Parker's Baby Shower, and the lead in the movie is carrying this Pepsi can around and definitely presenting it. Clearly, they have some brand deal with Pepsi, but at no point does she open it. And she goes to try to open it several times, but then she'll get interrupted in her conversation. And it's like several scenes of this. It's like she goes from the kitchen to the outside
Starting point is 00:52:08 to like another area holding this Pepsi can displaying it like it's a commercial going to like act like she's about to open it and then stopping because she like gets distracted by a bird or something like that. Will they won't they of our modern cinematic landscape. Yeah. I feel like it's genuinely, they just caught Dakota Johnson trying to figure out what a can of Pepsi was. And that's what it was. So something I also really appreciate is that in the movie,
Starting point is 00:52:38 they established that Spider-Man's outfit is inspired by this outfit from like a unnamed indigenous tribe that I believe like South America or something like that. So by saying that, you're basically saying that Spider-Man is like a culturally appropriating this tribe. That's right, cancel Spider-Man. So you're like retroactively making Spider-Man racist, which is great.
Starting point is 00:52:58 At least they didn't do the back to the future thing where the indigenous tribe was copying off of Spider-Man because that's how back to the future worked where Marty McFly, white teenage Marty McFly goes back in time and gives Chuck Berry the idea for rock and roll. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's probably what happened. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So that's probably what happened. So maybe. Yeah. But that is the, the famous quote of like the guy who was there before my mom died and when she was studying spiders in. Oh my God. So wonderful. Yeah. Anyways, none of these are the reasons that it won't be winning Best Picture.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Because in order to be included, you need to meet Hollywood's inclusion and representation standards, which are, they've been criticized for being like very loose and things that you could just accidentally do while still like not having enough inclusion and representation in your film.
Starting point is 00:54:08 But these, Madame Web and 116 other feature films that were released this year did not meet the rules, did not meet the standard, including Bad Boys Ride or Die, The Mean Girls Musical, and sadly, the Garfield movie. including Bad Boys Ride or Die, the Mean Girls musical, and sadly the Garfield movie. Is this a list of rules for diversity inclusion, like Hollywood diversity inclusion, as in they're just saying this needs to have
Starting point is 00:54:40 people of color or... It's so these are the four categories and you have to meet two out of the four standards on screen representation themes and narratives creative leadership and project team so that's behind the scenes presumably industry access and opportunities and audience development Is development made so could this podcast be nominated for best picture? I don't know. That's a great question. Well, yeah, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Don't bend the rules for anything that's, you know, as perfect as this. I mean, not to be the Madame Web apologist that I clearly am, but I actually don't see how it does it. I mean, assuming that Hollywood, like most American industries, counts white women as a group in the diversity requirement. I'm just like, is Madam Webb not all of these things? My guess is it's probably behind the scenes is probably pretty straight white dude, but that's just kind of my guess. Yeah, but I'm just saying the creative, I mean, the lead, I'm assuming Dakota Dotson was an EP on this.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Like, am I, am I, am I wrong? Like it just feels like it's there. Seems like it probably passes the Bechdel test, right? So it depends on, they're mostly talking about spiders. So yeah, depending on what kind of spiders they're talking about. I think it's a spider man. Oh shit. It does feel like maybe what's happening is they
Starting point is 00:56:09 will go through the exercise of making a movie eligible if they think it has any award chances. Because another one that didn't make it this year, Herald and the Purple Crown. So it's Boy Kills World. Is that a sequel to Boy Meets World? I don't know that one. your herald on the purple crown. So it's Boy Kills World. Is that a sequel to Boy Meets World? Boy Kills World is the count Orlok first person one with John Benjamin as the voice in a shootery type of thing that I did not see.
Starting point is 00:56:44 It's just like they like probably hire a spend, spend like a million dollars to hire McKinsey to like, if they think it has a chance at like making I'm shocked and nominated. Sony couldn't argue that Madame Webb does these things. And I'm also shocked that I'm going to say just off the top of my head, illumination couldn't argue that the Garfield movie didn't also do these things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Look, people of color, orange is a color, I'm just saying. That's right, that's right. Cats? That's right. Odie, whatever the fuck Odie is. That movie probably, I don't know this for a fact, but I feel like there's probably a scene in that movie where Garfield's girlfriend Arlene
Starting point is 00:57:23 and a female security guard talk about lasagna for more than four lines. So like, I think this probably passes the Bechdel test. The Bechdel test is not one of the standards, by the way. That was just me adding that. We're just throwing this out there. Yeah, we're just throwing it out there. Put us in charge, Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:57:41 We'll let everybody in. All right, And finally, sex bots are going a little bit viral right now. Because thanks to this article from the sun back in 2016, that somebody went back and screen capped, it was tweeted out, revealed women will be having more sex with robots than men by 2025. This article came out June 30th, 2016, as accompanied by a picture of a robot from- Yeah, it's iRobot.
Starting point is 00:58:15 iRobot, yeah, yeah, the iRobot robot just laying there, looking off pensively as a naked woman nuzzles his chest. Yeah, the robot's just thinking about the price of microchips right now. What a fucking weird day at the Photoshop mines. I know, right? Yeah, I want you to Photoshop a woman having sex with a robot and the robot does have emotions and is not into this. You know what?
Starting point is 00:58:41 Probably the weirder part is the graphic designer having to pretend to mock something up rather than pulling from their vast pre-existing files. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It is kinda hot. Oh yeah, that's gonna be cool. The picture's kinda hot. Yeah, let me get right to work on this.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Let me take a couple of days. Yeah, like flip into a personal stash robots. I also love that in this article, the word robots is in all caps, so it's like they're yelling it at you. Yeah. More sex with robots than men by 2025. Yeah, this person's got an ax to grind with robots.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Not to be that guy, but probably even before 2025, when you realize, this article is implying, inferring that women will be having sex with androids, you know, humanoid robots, sex bots. Uh, I think that probably the definition of robot probably goes down to including a decent number of existing commercial products that are out on the
Starting point is 00:59:42 market now in terms of sex heaven. That's why everyone lock up. Can it look that hot and pensive while you nuzzle its chest? Cause that's the, that's, I'm just saying, if you draw a frowny face on a vibrator, you kind of get it. Sad face vibrator, but yeah, I don't know. So people started sharing this when January 1st hit. Um, and you know, people crowned 2025 the year of robot fucking, the headline.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And this is going to surprise people because this article is from the sun, which is, you know, one of the finest news outlets in the UK. Is the sun one of the Murdoch ones? Yeah. The sun is one of the Murdoch ones that I was shocked. It's the worst of the Murdoch ones. Yeah, the sun is one of the one one of the Murdoch ones that I was. It's the worst of the Murdoch ones. Yeah, really bad. Like also like nude pictures of women in it. Yeah, like there's just a page that's like, oh, and this is the. So you got your sports section, you got your world news section, you got your Playboy like magazine that we just.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Be you know, and right. section, you got your Playboy magazine that we just become a magazine news. This, you know, it's basically just, you know, a broadsheet Reddit. Yeah, exactly. That's right. So it's sites. One future ologist, Dr. Ian Pearson, who said that there was probably going to be an era of robot fucking that starts in 2025 and that humans won't be overtaken by sex robots until likely 2050.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But he, and he's pissed that this is going viral. He's like, I never said that. I said that, like he specifically says in his abstract that like, it'll probably seem weird at first and like nobody's gonna be doing it by 2025. Until it becomes delightful. Oh God. Does no one, we're just not questioning anyone
Starting point is 01:01:40 who calls themselves a fucking futurologist. Has any one of those fools ever been right about anything? You're gonna say, has any of those fools ever been to the future? Yeah, exactly, are they from there? Yeah, yeah. All these fuckers are doing is, across a broad spectrum of people,
Starting point is 01:01:57 parroting sci-fi tropes, and then they each put a different year so that retroactively one of them will get the right year, and then they can say the field of futurology is correct. It's like fortune teller grift. Well, I mean, yeah, well, that's like 100% what it is. It's like the click bait-ization of the news is like, it's not even focused on like,
Starting point is 01:02:18 is this person an expert or not? It's just, is this a clickable headline? And it's like, yeah, does this person have any sort of real background in this or are they just like making up bullshit? And it's like, yeah, does this person have any sort of real background in this? Or are they just like making up bullshit and people are like, well, that's spicy. You know, like it's annoying. Yeah, you're fansourcing the news now.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah, oh my God. It's all like fan fiction at this point. Like I can't get over the New Jersey drones thing going as viral as it did. But it just seemed like people were like, I don't know, man. It's like kind of boring right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the company that is the closest to making the sex robot. So first of all, you're going
Starting point is 01:02:55 to be shocked to learn that the actual sex robot industry in 2025 is more of a buy dudes for dudes type of a thing. Like a lot of straight men with disposable income. And it's like a very insular community where they all probably have like weird shorthand. Like you could probably go spend a fascinating afternoon like in a subreddit about like, you know, sex doll enthusiasts and just like learning all the lingo. And the jargon is where they really shot.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Jargon has gotta be so fucking weird. If you're listening to this right now, treat yourself. That's right. Go to that subreddit and just take a day. The highest and, or like the closest to a, you know, Android level sex robot can't even stand up because the only robotic bit is her head. Yes, it's a woman.
Starting point is 01:03:52 As our writer, J.M. McNabb said, it kind of looks like a collaboration between Maxim Magazine and Disney World's Hall of Presidents. Like that's kind of the energy that you're getting from. It's just all very, yeah, not a lot of diversity. It's just a, a bunch of 50 to 60 year old white guys being like, Oh, she could fuck a Barbie doll. I mean, that's like the classic Silicon Valley thing, which is you're just seeing in the most extreme thing, which is, you're just seeing You know? Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Yeah, yeah. How can I make the world worse, fool the venture capitalists until they have, their pot committed so they have to back my cockamamie idea. I mean, it's, you know, that's the Uber lift. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Waymo business model. And it was like, oh, good.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah, just like, you're in for several million dollars. Let's go. You can't, no backing out now. Brian, the editor just shared the link to our sex dolls and yeah it looks like you could spend a lot of time in here just being weirded out. All right I'm clicking. Clicking now. Yeah our sex dolls the official subreddit of the Daily Zac guys. Here's a good grade find. Brian the editor. And then everyone picks their one favorite FAQ. Brian found my favorite one for me. Yeah I mean favorite FAQ. Brian found my favorite one for me.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Yeah, please read this. The rules, the very first rule is no dolls that represent a child, which is fucking bleak as hell. But that has to be the very first rule. I will just say my favorite question from this and I am realizing as I click this, I am absolutely signed in under my own Reddit account. Are these dolls, sex dolls legal?
Starting point is 01:05:44 Okay, whatever. The second half of this question is, will this doll pass customs? Which tells me, uh, this is, this is also really good. Uh, how can you dispose of dolls discreetly? And the first sentence of the answer, you should be able to cut it into smaller pieces. If you have a wrench or other tools to disassemble the skeleton underneath as well. But it might just be easier to put it out for sale. Put it out for sale, like in a fucking yard sale
Starting point is 01:06:15 or a giveaway on dollforum.com. Used sex doll is, god damn, what a weird interaction that must be to show up at somebody's house and buy their used sex doll, like hear them refer to it, but like it's a person. Yeah. Oh, this is I'm loving being signed in on my account here. This is great.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I would you should you just oppose of the sex doll discreetly at all? I feel like proud of disposing. I feel like you should absolutely sit it on the curb next to your trash can with a little sign around invariably her neck. Say, yeah, it's like just friend. It's thumb. So it looks like it's like, yeah. How do you clean the orifice after use is one of the questions. Yeah, these are all things that we can go check out, you know, whenever we want.
Starting point is 01:07:08 This is listen, if there was any justice in the world, we will read about this in the sun. Right. Thank you. We have to go to our sex dolls. Yeah. The sun got to too excited. We're going to be able to fuck dolls soon. Yeah. But also this this idea like like the scary headline of women will be having more sex
Starting point is 01:07:30 with robots, you know, obviously from a right wing mag is probably troubling. Yeah, that's the scary thing. Like you're going to be replaced, Doug. Yeah. All the actual facts are about no woman is remotely interested in this. There is no market for this The only market is again, you know, probably the same 200 white guys that yeah identify. Yeah Yeah, that's exactly they so they spoke to a non-future by the way, the futurist the futurist they talked to was like I never said that that's crazy. Like you just obviously took what I was saying out of context. But they asked somebody who has more of an expertise on this and said that it's a complex
Starting point is 01:08:12 issue with a number of different considerations, but sex robots probably may never really be a thing. Even if they're produced, they will remain a niche product and mostly used for companionship with sex almost secondary to that, which we're already seeing, like, uh, AI is being used to help people's loneliness. And like the way we interact with actual people is not face to face and in person. So like why spend all the money on, you know, these things cost an incredible amount of money. Ten thousand dollars.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Yeah, I got to say, our sex dolls, there's a eighty seven thousand members of the subreddit, 13 online now. So shout out to those 13 dudes. Hey, shout out to you. That's all. That is more than I would have thought, though. Eighty seven thousand. Maybe it's people doing it for the walls, but yeah. OK, closing that and back to regular sex dolls talk.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I think I'm gonna hang out here for a little bit. All right, well, Joey, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, thanks so much for having me. Always a true delight being on this show. You can follow me on Twitter, blue sky and TikTok at Joey Tainment.
Starting point is 01:09:27 And you can follow me on threads and Instagram at Joey Clift with five or six eyes. One thing I want to promote is that I am currently working on a short film called Pow. It's kind of based on my experiences growing up as a young native kid on reservations. It's about a young native kid trying to find a place to charge the video game console to pow wow.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And I've got a sub stack where I'm talking about at joeycliff.substack.com. You can find more information about the production and places to see it. So definitely check that out, support that project. And then it was the trailer just dropped today. I'm on season 10 of I'm actually on dropout. So check that out if you love yourself some dropout.
Starting point is 01:10:03 There you go. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? so a work of media that I've been enjoying is I would say this video of whole Cogan getting booed mercilessly by When he came out to promote his new real American anti woke beer brand You can find a really great clip of it shared by at the enemies PE three on You can find a really great clip of it shared by at the enemies PE three on Twitter and it's just it's like 45 seconds long. And if you want to watch an old raises get booed by 20,000 people, just like treat yourself, you know. There you go. Great having you. Andrew, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Andrew T. on Blue Sky, I guess.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I don't know, Instagram. Probably Instagram is bad now. It was bad before. The work of media, it's not really, strictly speaking, any individual piece of media, but I think I have already found my salad of 2025. I saw it from a particular, I guess it was sent to me as an Instagram, but it's probably a TikTok, technically. But also, it's not this person's original recipe anyway,
Starting point is 01:11:06 and I'm sure there's a million copycats. Anyway, celery, lemon, dates, shallots, olive oil. The original recipe said Parmesan cheese. I put in some blue cheese, salt and pepper. Lemon, did I say lemon? Holy shit, I ate the salad twice. I ate for the first time in my life in one day an entire bunch of celery, which is insanity. That's a lot of celery.
Starting point is 01:11:30 More celery than I've ever had. Ever. Anyway, so good. Cut the celery on a bias, very thin. Holy shit. I'm going to make one after this recording for real. That sounds really good. Salad of the year. Salad of the year. There you go. That's your work of media, folks. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack OB1. And I've been enjoying this comic of a chicken
Starting point is 01:12:00 crossing over a chunk of road. And it's just why the chicken crossed the road. Oh, I've seen this. It's very fun. By Beetle Moses, at Beetle Moses on Twitter. Yeah, another work of media, the subreddit rslashsexdolls is a, it's a work of media I've really been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:12:16 So a place I've been spending a lot of time lately is a place called rslash. Not a joke, it's the most reading I've done today. So, oh, I did actually get a book that I think people know about, but I read it was a Christmas present called Between Two Fires, a very, very unpleasant sort of, I guess, medieval horror. It's set during the Black Plague. And it's like it's sort of like if Game of Thrones,
Starting point is 01:12:47 but the underlying mythology slash magic in the world was like medieval plague era conceptions of Catholicism. So there's like angels and devils and all kinds of fucking horrible shit happening. It's a very unpleasant read, and I think people know about it, but it was pretty good. Between Two Fires.
Starting point is 01:13:11 All right. And it is a subtle parody of Between Two Ferns. Correct. Yeah, interesting. Work Media I've been enjoying well. Muol on Twitter wrote, "'The most attractive thing a man can do is hitting his own head and repeating stupid, stupid, stupid.
Starting point is 01:13:31 That's one of my go-to moves, ladies. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on bluesky at Jack OB, the number one. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com. You can also check out The Show Notes,
Starting point is 01:13:55 which is the description of the episode you're listening to. And we will include there The Footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. I just had a song suggested to me called Purple Snowflakes by Say She She. I don't know if it's been done or people, but it's of the previous ride outs. It feels like sort of on that vibe. On brand?
Starting point is 01:14:23 Yeah. I just had like a run on on a shuffle this morning of like three of the songs that Miles has recommended. And I was like, man, you recommend some good songs. This feels this feels like miles ish and maybe it's I don't know. Maybe there's a reason it's not or maybe it's been recommended this band, but it's sort of like I was had a Spotify describe psychedelic discodelic purple snowflake by Say She She.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Yeah, I do recommend and I think it would fit in the groove. Well, we will link off to that in the footnotes. For the only Zeitgeist is a production of I Heart Radio. Of more podcasts from our radio visit the I Heart Radio app Apple podcast or wherever you listen, your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll talk to you all then.
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