The Daily Zeitgeist - MAGA Heat Check, Multiverse Thirst 04.26.22
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 234 episode 2 of the daily zeitgeist
a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared
consciousness it's tuesday april 26 2022 which of course means that it is national pretzel day
oh making me thirsty making me thirsty uh indeed you like pretzels i do i love pretzels
i like a pretzel crisp i like a pretzel a small pretzel i'm not as big on the big fat uh doughy
street street pretzels of philadelphia some some like molten cheese no yeah i think i ate too many of them without enough cheese or
anything except mustard and oh right but yeah i'm just i'm not i'm not real philly i've never
claimed to be real philly you know okay well you know it's funny that i would get off my back all
right man i'm not real philly holy shit, dude. I just asked about fucking pretzels. What the fuck?
I remember just like the first time I would have them,
you know, like it's like 80s snack stand always had to have that like rotating fucking glass thing
with like dried up pretzels on them
with like salt chunks the size of fucking
like tennis balls on them.
But all those are always so like dry and not fresh that for the longest
time i'm like man if that's what a fucking pretzel is fuck that until i had like a proper one i was
like okay i like this i like bread and salt yeah and i don't want to shout out the company that
probably lobbied to make this a national national pretzel day but auntie ann's i think still you
think auntie ann's is behind it probably i mean what other
massive corporation yeah i guess world gold wetzel wetzel big wetzel um what's up wetzel
i do i do love uh loving anteans so i'm sure a lot of people don't think i'm real real pretzel
gang but fuck it don't worry i'm fine with that don't worry hey i'm not gonna pull your
card uh anyways my name is jack o'brien aka earth day was the worst day now i hit bamboo when i'm
thirsty i was courtesy of walter chestnut uh talking about those soggy ass paper straws um wow clever clever well done walter chestnut and i'm thrilled to be joined
as always by my co-host mr miles gray oh i smell just like little caesars oh drop my pizza on the
floor i don't care about that shit anyway I'm too high for that
All right.
Shout out to Grand Repitty and Willie on the Discord
who attached this wonderful AKA with the Weezer Blue album,
but they're dressed up like they work at Little Caesars
and Little Caesars mascot is in it
and it says Caesar instead of Weezer.
Damn.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
Some art direction coming with the AKAs. Yeah, it was a lot of texturesezer. Damn. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Some art direction coming with AKs.
Yeah, it was a lot of textures.
It's more than just words.
It's a feeling.
It's a multiverse, if you will.
Was that a reference to an event from your life,
dropping the pizza and still eating it?
No, I think maybe this meme inspired it.
They know I love Little Caesars.
I like pan loco.
I'm down with my crazy bread all the time. So I don know you know i'm i'm not mad and also i love body i love the
buddy holly track i love that track the guitar solo it's really just that one lick going
that shit okay wow um i mean it is a good it is a good part i just you i don't usually
get that energy from you over a track that like is you know mainstream oh you should get this
jack if you could have seen me in 07 guitar hero came out i'm playing my name is jonas
on fucking expert i'm like i have tears in my eyes and you're like dude this guy's fucking up
bad right now uh well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat uh by one of our
favorite all-time tdz guests a very funny stand-up comedian writer podcaster producer
her stand-up album a pinging cave debuted at number one on iTunes, and her podcast, Lady to Lady,
is just one of the best out there.
She's performed everywhere from a basement in Kentucky to the stages of the Kennedy Center.
Please welcome the talented and hilarious Brandi Posey!
Brandi!
Ooh!
Hey, guys.
I've been quietly sitting here just like, they're talking about pretzels, they're talking about so many things i have opinions about but i'm gonna be a good guest and then i just yelled wetzel and i broke i broke my my professionality i was like no one's saying wetzel i'm here for
the people at home that are wetzel heads i just wanted to get it in there are you big wetzer
wetzel head uh i love i love i love all soft pretzels so so i went to i actually went to college in philly pretzels. So I actually went to college in Philly.
I'm from Maryland originally.
I went to college in Philly and I went to film school
and I catered all of my film sets
because I couldn't sleep the night before shooting anything.
So at four in the morning every day,
I would go to like one of the soft pretzel factories
and get a giant box of soft pretzels for like $5
and just like a big thing of mustard.
I think that was the only
food on my sets in college holy shit but that's it was not bad fresh fresh case of pretzels yeah
fresh case of pretzels because you could go straight to the factory like right when they
were making them it was this old weird factories in philly that just smelled like soft pretzels
right like a little old man like the one old man that made the pretzels would just like open
this door if you knocked at the right time and he'd just bring you a big old like cardboard box
of pretzels they're the most philly i've ever felt in my life and yeah do you do you feel like they
are superior to other soft pretzels like my dad who's from philly grew up in philly will like if we're near uh anywhere near philly he wants to he
wants to stop through and pick up an inordinate number of soft pretzels i think if you're getting
them right when they are fresh then they're they're unbeatable but you know they also because
they don't have a lot of preservatives in them and stuff like they they do get funky pretty quickly
yeah right of the day right so you know if you can get them like hot off the presses it's a great pretzel otherwise
an andy ans or a wetzel because they just like dunk that shit in butter and yeah you're like fine
whatever it's fine yeah that's what i'm here for is the uh just sopping in butter most bread of
any kind dunked in butter i'm pretty good with. I like an Olive Garden breadstick.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's all perfect.
Bon Loco, we all come from the same tree.
I didn't realize the average Philadelphian consumes about 12 times as many pretzels as the national average.
Damn.
That tracks.
I mean, yeah, if you're like, what time is it?
Four?
All right, hit the fucking
fresh spot real quick
have that for my set food
yeah that makes sense
yeah I mean
Philly is like
doesn't mess around
you got
you got great pizza
you got great cheese steaks
you got pretzels there
you got rosies
it's just
there's
what do you think
if okay
so Philadelphia
they probably eat more pretzels
what do you think
New Yorkers eat more pizza
than the national average
probably pizza although I feel like I've had more halal I've had more halal pretzels. What do you think? New Yorkers eat more pizza than the national average? Probably pizza.
Although I feel like I've had
more halal than
pizza in New York, I think.
More street meat than
is both common
in America and also advisable
by the national
street
meat association.
Even there, like, no,'re like no no no no no
yeah and then street tacos out here probably right i feel like yeah i mean that feels like
something just in general because our tacos are so good like passively you can just it's it's not
an offensive meal all right brandy we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment
first uh we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today,
such as we're just going to do a little MAGA heat check, grab bag,
check in with all the popular characters.
We are going to take a look at the CNN Plus clusterfuck that just fell apart so fast.
It fell apart like an unsheathed Philadelphia pretzel.
It just went bad within days.
So we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about the multiverse.
Why are people, have you guys heard about this thing?
Have you seen this? It's not in a movie. One version have you guys heard about this thing have you seen this
one version of myself has heard about it yeah there you go um all the other multiverses are
have seen it and are over it we're we're behind the curve i think um and then we're going to talk
about uh broadway broadway uh all of that plenty more but first
brandy we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history um so uh
the new the newest season of of forged in fire has dropped episodes on hulu and there's a new host
uh controversially a new host for the first time in seven eight seasons second host of all
time on the show his name is grady powell and i needed to know who the hell this man was because
i loved the old host because he was a horrible host to the point he had zero charisma to the
point that he was extremely charismatic by the end because he just like was so bad at it and
this new guy has too much confidence to fall into that category.
Right.
So I just needed to know who the hell this guy was.
Turns out he's a former green beret.
So I am scared of him,
but not talk that shit.
Let,
let him know.
Yeah.
Great.
He seemed stable.
You got zero catchphrases.
You're yelling at people like we're still in the army.
Uh,
you're on forged in fire.
Oh gosh. Yeah. Former green beret. Yeah. gosh yeah former green beret yeah it's a lot yeah it's a lot all the other because all the other like the judges are very fun and like sweet but he just comes in with this like drill
instructor attitude and i'm just like not here for it and i'm gonna give him a season to see
what happens but like it's that that is my favorite show on tv um so it's very hard for me to like have changes
happen to my favorite thing so whatever i just went down a wormhole on him just to be like all
right who the hell is this guy why are you the host why didn't i get this job forged in fireheads
if you're listening petition me to be the next host when grady is ultimately fired for war crimes
right exactly like so yeah how was that tour in iraq you did as a green beret uh the next host when Grady is ultimately fired for war crimes. Right, exactly. So, yeah.
How was that tour in Iraq you did as a Green Beret?
Yeah.
Don't recall.
That part, though.
Right.
So, the previous hosts is who I'm more interested in.
What was their name?
What was their background?
Were they just like a real homemade sword head and like well
no will willis also had some sort of i think he was a pararescue guy um so yeah like they always
have like somebody that's like former military hosting it oh yeah i remember yeah this guy was
perfectly non-memorable for a show that was really about making fucking swords yeah a perfect just a
perfect weird little avatar and then he always had bad hair and it was just really beautiful
just to see him just not know how to like riff with the judges and it was very endearing because
he was just uncharismatic and this guy he is also uncharismatic but he's like yelling at you the
whole time and i'm just not i'm not here for that because forged in fire you think is going to be like a toxic bro show but it's actually breaking
down those barriers because that show was all about like guys that like make knives separately
coming together and meeting more people and forging friendships and knives at the same time
and no one's ever in set is forged in fire forged friendship. Yeah, that's what the forge was forging the whole time.
And it's just very sweet to see people that could be school shooters
just finding a craft that they're really into instead.
Right.
With the potential of a career on QVC later on.
Exactly.
I mean, I'm looking on a media outlet that wants to tell me
the real reason Will Willis isn't on this season.
But was it just they were like, yo, man, your hair is too weird.
I'm like, your vibes are all fucked up.
I think during quarantine, his wife had a baby and he wants to go be a dad and whatever.
They live in Lake Arrowhead, Mazel Tov, have fun.
But I do miss him and I do think a lot of people want him to come back.
So we'll see.
We'll see how much they pay attention to the fans.
I like his, his hairstyles,
like one where it's like,
he doesn't pay attention to the fact that his hair is growing.
Yes.
And then every now and then,
what the fuck's going on with this?
I gotta go to a red carpet event.
What the heck?
And then he shows up looking like that.
And you're like, wow. Which is so funny because he literally has hair and makeup every
day but they just i'm like you have a perfect you you're the host of a tv show somebody powders
your face that nobody says anything about this hair what's happening in the trailer is it like
trying to get like a six-year-old ready for church or they're like and you gotta do your
hair like now just like smearing it back like fuck whatever go like that then exactly man i'll say will willis is just like
a name that sounds like made up completely like will willis algorithmic in the best way
yeah it's perfect the will only has one l is that correct yes yeah yeah yeah jack can you handle it
Yeah, Jack.
Can you handle it?
I don't think I can.
My man has one L.
But two in the last name.
He doesn't want you to get confused.
He's not trying to freak us out. No.
You can't have four L's in your two names.
That becomes too much.
His parents knew what was going on.
Yeah.
It does, like, because it only has the one L in the first name,
it does seem like he just, like, messed up writing his last name
and then tried again because, yeah,
he just, like, couldn't get the momentum going.
Right.
Or Will Willis is the real war crimer between him and Grady Powell,
and they're like, what's your name, fella? Will Willis is the real war crimer between him and Grady Powell. And they're like, what's your name, fella?
Will Willis.
Yes, indeed.
I would like to audition for this job.
I definitely strongly prefer Will Willis over Grady Powell using the infallible technique of just Google image searching them and looking at the first like 10 pictures that come up uh yeah grady powell just looks he's got like a real captain america
vibe and like that that shows already like pretty rah-rah will willis feels like he got out of the
army or whatever the hell you get out of for pararescue right and he just like got like uh
grow out his hair move the lake arrow, smokes like a little bit of weed sometimes.
Just a little bit.
Like he feels like he just gets into it a little bit.
He like has friends that have been to Burning Man.
Yeah.
But he has never been.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And like Grady Powell's like the kind of person where like women in middle America can't believe that a guy that handsome is like a fascist or racist.
Yes.
You know, like him no he's
like so handsome like no no that's that's like that's gonna be the next wave of faces you're
gonna see to try and make this thing look normal yeah exactly exactly what is uh what's something
you think is overrated um uh when you go to a convenience store and you look where just the Reese's cups used to be,
Reese's has taken over.
And I think all of the Reese's B-sides, they're all overrated.
Just the OG Reese's cup.
Every new version that's got nuts.
You're putting pretzels in the cup.
You're putting potato chips in the cup.
You got all these different versions.
I love that one.
I mean, they're good.
Some of them are very good. But the quality in the og cup has gone down and i just
wish that reese's had more confidence in itself like i wish the reese's had the confidence of a
peppermint patty that has just not changed yeah in a hundred years but they keep throwing all
this different stuff out like there's like there's a reese's version of a kit kat there's reese's
version of like a snickers and they're never as good as the other ones but i just wish like they kept the quality
up of the og cup so york peppermint patty famously tried the york peppermint patty with uh
two with toothbrush particles in there and it did not go over very well people weren't telling it
yeah um that wasn't a thing you're right miles that was not a thing in my mind i believed it
because it felt like some shit from the early 90s that we would have been like i don't know
and it cleans your teeth too i think they try and draw attention away from the fact that they
mimic the you know feel the tactile uh and the taste of of toothpaste I still love York peppermint patties.
Guys, you're right, though.
Reese's, they're doing too much.
It's too much.
It's kind of freaking me out.
This is what CNN did with CNN Plus.
Exactly.
They kept fucking her.
Like, it wasn't enough that you had Reese's peanut butter cups?
You wanted to fucking make
I'll just put it in the link you can look like if you were buying some shit off the website
the just the amount take five Reese's marshmallow top big cup oh yeah these suck
yeah I like the chip one I really like the chip one but I like it because we're adding
we're adding to pretzel right exactly uh and this
isn't even branded but like we're even like we're adding to the original with that but then when you
got these ones like why do i need to eat a thin one for what i've had the white chocolate ones
because they take up approximately half of the ones in the easter egg bag that i have and i've never i've never been glad like
they're they're good they're better than most other candies they're not as good as the regular
chocolate one right and i'm never tired of the regular chocolate one to a degree where i'm like
give me something uh that's not as good they've got me to the point where i even look at the
organic ones with disdain i'm like yeah
who the fuck invited you yeah i'm okay with the seasonal shapes because it is that's fine
everybody's got to do that yeah yeah yeah i totally get that i like i actually think that
the like the chocolate to peanut butter ratio is better on the seasonal shapes yeah but um yeah
i do i think like i think that the re the Reese's Easter egg is a perfect candy.
I think it's good.
I like how thin the chocolate is on it.
I have a peanut butter feels fresher because I make them only once a year.
Right, right, right.
But yeah, it's like all these other things.
I'm like, how about you focus on being the best peanut butter cup or seasonal shape that
you can be?
I don't need you to like, I don't need all these other weird, like take fives and all sorts of different bars that make no sense.
This whole section that's just orange at the store.
I'm against it.
Right.
Yeah.
It just feels like somebody is like,
it feels like Mr.
Reese's died and he had like 50 horrible children.
Each child.
They all got a chance.
Yeah,
exactly.
And they're all worse.
They're all worse than the original.
Cause I'm trying to find like you, who referenced york peppermint patty that i did yeah yeah because
they're owned by hershey's as well and i wonder if they if hershey's is like that's the nasty step
kid reese's is the one who graduated honors so we're going to take you to take your other classes
fast break class kick-ass class meanwhile you have a really
great child right there who's consistently just doing it and we're not giving any shine to york
yeah exactly york was never the problem child and has just been steadily just on a roll this
entire time and guess what york's gonna turn out okay york doesn't need the family york gets to
stop coming home eventually yeah you're fucking up the the firstborn with all this attention and all the trying different things and not letting
reese's just be reese's yes exactly i'm now in my head about whether i'm pronouncing that and like
yeah and like that one scene where york comes home for christmas begrudgingly and there's still all
this attention being paid to reese's and like york's just outside smoking a a cigarette Reese's like man it's real tough in there and then York's like do
you ever just wish like mom and dad would just let you be you and he's like every day dude every day
and that's who Reese's became I blame ET you know that's where that's where things became
I think they've they just soared to new heights with clever yeah yeah yeah there the reese's page does not have a single pieces
on it a single piece uh there is no evidence of reese's pieces i don't know if this is
because no yeah the filter that we have on the on the search that miles just sent through the
chat is just reese's candy and i'm not seeing a single pieces um so what the fuck that's ridiculous even if you load more
i will just say if you put anything in a york it would be gross like that that i don't mind that
they're trying things out like just just get over it like figure out which one works and get over it
quickly york if you put york i think what i was trying to get at before if you
put york with like pretzel bits or no no no no right like you guys like it's like the thing that
comes out of your mouth after you brush your teeth if you've eaten yeah right eaten pretzels or brush
your teeth with these pretzels yeah right um what is something that you think is underrated?
I think postcards are underrated.
I think that you love them whenever you get one,
but we don't send them enough.
And I think that it's a cheaper stamp.
You don't have to get too in-depth on a postcard,
but they make everybody's day.
And I think that more people should be postcarding yeah i think
that's a great call yeah it's an easy cheap way to be like hey thinking of you um and it's also
like it's just it's just a nice it's just a nice thing to do it connects it connects and i think
to your point like it's probably maybe one of the most efficient ways of communicating in terms of what the like cost
is to you to send to the postcard but then also the heightened effect of someone receiving something
that is handwritten is like whenever i get something handwritten i'm like oh my god i know
you fucking wrote this it's very touching it's very very touching and something i've been doing
because i have i
live i live in la now my family's in in maryland uh i have a niece that's like two and a half
and every time i travel anywhere now i send her a postcard and she has like a box
of like postcards for me that's like someday eventually because it's like i don't know when
i'm 50 is when she'll give a shit. Maybe.
But am I still going to be doing cool shit when I'm 50?
I hope so.
But like, it's going to be different cool shit.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You sometimes see like little kids who are really into, you know, their cool aunt or uncle.
So that's.
Yeah.
Keep doing that.
That's so, that's so awesome.
I do not do that.
I am not a good uncle, but I'm impressed.
Oh, thank you.
Trying my best.
It was so funny.
I started and she was born like six months before the pandemic started.
And I was like, oh, I'm traveling all over the place, sending you stuff.
And then.
Here's another one.
Here's one from the kitchen.
Here's one from Los Feliz.
Check that out.
Exactly.
Went to GMLA's pretty cool sandwich place.
All right. What else? Yeah, exactly. went to gm ella's pretty cool sandwich place all right what else yeah exactly yeah she'll look back
and she'll be like these are my postcards from my aunt brandy who led the home depot 12-foot
skeleton revolt against you like her general posy yeah oh yeah oh yeah baby i'm here the proletarian skeleton we should uh the skeleton
we need to say it's one of the most efficient ways of communicating until now we have not seen
what elon musk is going to do with twitter yet now that he owns it so um you know stay tuned
on that one we'll see if he can beat the postcard,
but holy shit, that's depressing.
And also you were talking before we started recording
about Skeleton Easter.
Yes.
I, like an idiot, didn't know what that was.
Can you explain what Skeleton Easter is?
Okay, of course.
So I'm the proud owner of a 12
foot skeleton it took me two years
to get it Home Depot 12 skeleton
fuck Home Depot but I did
buy a 12 foot skeleton from them and
I regret it zero days of my life
for the rest of my life I love it
it is still up right now in my backyard
because I'm also
part of a 12 foot skeleton Facebook group
and everybody
that's in it we're we've been goading each other on to keep them up year round and keep dressing
them up for different holidays so yeah oh yeah my skeleton uh is currently uh it has a I went to the so also my
art medium
for dressing the skeleton
are dollar store
tablecloths
that's
that's what I work in
I like that
so currently
my skeleton also
so I went to the dollar store
last month
and they had like
a chair cover
that was a bunny rabbit
and I took it
and I cut it off
and it's the perfect size for
his head and then i put fake blood around it so my skeleton is wearing a rabbit head on his head
with a tiny easter basket in his hand and it's very fun um but we've all there's lots of lots
of people that decorated and dress up their skeletons for easter and it's really been
pissing off the neighbors and the hoas around the country and it's really beautiful to see like Karen's being radicalized for good um and it's one of
the few places online that actually gives me hope about the future because we're learning
to have empathy for people on the other side of the country from each other that might have a lot
of differences but they do both have 12 foot skeletons and at the end of the day aren't we
all just skeletons in the first place seriously yeah yeah so really physical manifestations of our inner experience
yeah i just love that the the 12 foot skeleton became popular during covid because just like
it's it's literally just like a large looming figure of death above us right yeah you know
it's just fun to look at every day and he winks at you sometimes
yeah like in the in the black death wasn't like all the art was like skeletons and like
grim reapers and shit like that and people were wearing those weird plague masks oh yeah and now
we got uh 12 foot skeletons because that's all we can yeah yep yep they're great i love better than what they
had by the way i should know uh it's fucking cool because uh those skeletons you'll note were not 12
feet tall uh whereas yours is 12 feet tall so he's 12 feet he can also put his hands in the air so
he's more like 16 feet at that point because he's very long arms and early when i first got my
skeleton he came with two left
arms by accident and then on the 12-foot skeleton facebook group i found a man that live an old man
that lived in minnesota who had two right hands his skeleton came with two right hands swappers
we connected and we swapped and it just it just brought us both together it was very sweet maybe
there is hope i think it's possible
was there any part of you that was tempted to have your skeleton depicting the risen christ
like was that too too spicy i thought about it but i i did but yeah my like uh my my park manager
would not have been down. But down.
And I'm thankful she hasn't.
She loves the skeleton.
She's named the skeleton Jolene.
And I was like, all right.
I'm trying not to like, I don't want her to like have a problem with it.
I think she keeps being like, okay, maybe it'll come down now.
And I'm like, no.
It's cool. Just stonewall.
No, no.
He's up to stay, baby.
Right.
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And, yeah, it's, you know,
Meg has been in the news for various reasons we got the
marjorie taylor green uh trial we got uh some fundraising uh figures as we as we enter the
midterms uh so miles just a real quick heat check our man our political uh you know our expert what what's going on
the uh sure well uh this is these are the things i saw while i'm scrolling on my phone on the
toilet this week um which is where you should see all of your mega news i think oh yeah yeah no no
i mean if you're not defecating while consuming that news you there's it's a it's a net negative for your body i believe um but yeah so we got a lot going on
marjorie taylor green i think we touched on it on friday's trending episode she was having she's
in an administrative hearing to determine whether or not she's able to run for office under the
thing we've talked about even for madison cawthorne a few other people part of the 14th amendment
you know saying if you're hey if you fuck around and participate in an insurrection
you're you're gonna be barred from holding office um the whole time she was at this hearing it was
just very interesting to see her normally be like so aggressive and have this like chest out persona
of like i'm fucking nasty man watch me do these pull-ups motherfucker and then in a hearing suddenly you're like the like
affected like sort of sickly mob boss like i don't recall i don't recall ever i don't recall my name
is marjorie taylor green was like almost the level of uh um ignorance she was trying to
plead and you know it was it was very funny to watch this performance go down except for at
times when like she was asked a direct question started being coy and then realized oh wait maybe
i forgot that everything i've said and done in the last like five years has been recorded maybe
i shouldn't lie right now um so i just want to play this clip to where she's being real coy about, you know, because again, what they're trying to say is, you know, she had a hand in getting this crowd riled up in to participate in the in the insurrection, whether that's like from the day the election happened or in between.
This has always been the thing. She's always been using this very aggressive rhetoric. And one of the things they're pointing out is, I mean, you called Speaker a traitor well i mean depends on who you ask right yeah um miss green you've had your disagreements
with speaker pelosi isn't that right i'm not sure what you mean you've had political disagreements
with her you don't agree with some of the things she's done in her career right politically speaking that would be correct right you don't agree with some of the things she's done in her career, right? Politically speaking, that would be correct.
Right. You don't agree with a lot of things she's done, right?
Politically speaking, that would be correct.
In fact, you think that Speaker Pelosi is a traitor to the country, right?
I'm not answering that question. It's speculation.
You've said that, haven't you, Ms. Green, that she's a traitor to the country?
No, I haven't said that.
Okay.
Put up Penance Exhibit 5, please.
Oh, no, wait.
Hold on now.
I believe.
Why not?
Suck it.
Wow.
Oh, oh, oh. Do I think Speakerosi is a fucking traitor right okay yes i said because
she was okay with people who were seeking asylum entering the country that that was true so that
was like the energy of this whole hearing it's very interesting again to see somebody who is so
like you know uh
it i guess it really underscores how performative all the shit is when you're when you're like one
of these like rabid maga folks like we're in public you're doing all this you get in a hearing
you're saying like oh i don't know um politically it sounds so much like the alex jones depositions
it's just like the big bloviating character on the stand where you can't where like they will
have follow-up questions and like you are being stopped and you aren't in charge it's like oh
look how quickly the bravado all goes away because you can't just like lie and move on
that's right and in like a one-way conversation where everything you say is not challenged and
just taken at face value and then you're like yeah it's traitor going on they stole the election here we go um and yeah yeah there is something uh just very relieving
about that because it reminds you oh the the thing that is like so frustrating and demoralizing about
watching these people in public you are alex's jones your uh mtgs is what they're doing is
illegal and and they're acting like it's not and then
everyone else around them is like it's not illegal you're you're uh nazi and uh just like seeing them
in a court of law being like oh damn my bad you you you asked a question and i lied to it so that's where that i mean i think because the sound of that l starting
up of going uh can you please uh pull up uh plaintiff's exhibit five oh okay hold on hold
on now hold on we don't gotta do it we don't have to do all that now yeah so that just believe me
believe me and like the thing that you always suspect about her is the like she's play acting as like she's a child pretending to be a uh politician in some ways like that's the
vibes you get and like here it feels like she is a child pretending to be in a courtroom scene
that she's like seen on a you know soap opera or something and And then, uh, so she does the,
uh,
that's speculative and,
uh,
diminutive.
And I cannot allow further.
Uh,
I never said that.
Right.
Oh,
my bad.
She's like,
hold on.
Let me put on my barristers league and shit.
Like in reality,
reality.
Okay.
Okay.
Can we cut to commercial,
please?
Can we please cut to commercial?
Please.
I don't know what to have a line line um the stop the steal huh so you and you couple that too like
that's been sort of all of the energy for a lot of the big maga stars like matt gates marjorie
taylor green uh lauren bobert madison cawthorn, they were raising so much money towards the
beginning of Biden's administration off the heels of January 6th because they weaponized or
monetized that grievance to the point where they were pulling in millions of dollars. A year later,
it's a very different situation. Marjorie Taylor Greene is operating at a $314,000 loss. A lot of people look at Madison
Cawthorn's spending. They're like, this doesn't make sense. Same with Lauren Boebert, although
she's somewhat consistent. But even then, they're like, hold on, you paid like 400 grand to this
media firm, but your social media posts look like you just are taking selfies. What's going on here there's a lot of question marks over them and on
top of it you know people like um bobert and cawthorne they're facing prime they're getting
primary too and like they're they're looking at real messy primary challenges so it's odd to see
that just like the rhetoric of stop this deal isn't it's just that part definitely is fizzling
and and i i underline that point with the next
part because in georgia where brian kemp governor brian kemp is getting primary like you know he's
facing a primary challenge from david purdue who's that terrible senator who lost to john ossoff
um at the the what was that 2021 2020 um right now so purdue is being backed by trump like he
has the full force of maga behind him
there's some there's some polls that show him 24 points behind brian kemp and it's probably good
yeah which is i mean it's then you're like god it feels so good that he's they're like i guess
brian the georgia voters they're not necessarily as concerned with what brian kemp hasn't done
because that's all
purdueist i'm like you didn't help trump steal election you didn't do this you did they're like
yeah but he has a pretty steady fare of homophobic and racist bills that are more than enough for our
palates um and you're starting to see that even when you have someone who's fully endorsed like
you got the trump endorsement he went up to their they had a debate on over the weekend
and the first thing out of fucking dave's like david purdue's mouth was uh the 2020 election
was stolen from donald trump was like the first thing he said in his governor's debate brian
camp said i will never he's like he's like i will be your governor and i will never let stacy abrams be governor or
president on my watch and people were like yeah there you go racism racism and misogyny you kept
you're talking about the old hits we don't even care about anymore yeah exactly yeah i mean it's
because because the thing the 2020 election is the thing that like is most important to trump
because you know part of him like doesn't give a fuck about all the things that he rode to power on
like the you know racism and populism as much as he just as he cares about them insofar as they
serve him and so i just feel like he's not going to be able to internalize the message of like,
this whole movement needs to like get back to basics or you're going to lose because
he's already like been there.
And like the only thing left for him is for him to feel like he got there because of how
like cute and funny he is and not the stuff that people actually cared about is my hope
is that like that, that's a lesson he can't learn.
Yeah, I mean, he's not ideological whatsoever.
He has zero actual policies that he cares about.
It's just about whatever he says to get himself there.
And I don't know if that will...
It seems to be a losing point, which is nice.
Yeah.
And I think there's always like... When we talk about it too, it's like, is he losing his grip on the party? know if that will you know it seems to be a losing point which is nice yeah and i think and every
there's always like when we talk about it too it's like is he losing his grip on the party like
what's his influence over the party i honestly it just seems like his own obsession with revenge
and his ego has just completely destroyed his own ability to message like yeah it's complete it's
like new it's like self-neutralizing because he's so hung up on this thing.
And he's trying to tell his people who are like his followers, like, okay, yes, sir. I will go out with the same grievances you have.
And people are like, what?
Like, no, I don't.
That's not really.
That just doesn't hit the same way.
And I think the other part of it, too, is because he's out of office, it's that these people that are like Brian Kempmp like ron desantis like greg abbott they're
the ones out there putting fucking bills on paper yeah and causing the real harm and i think there's
like that level that like lack of like you know potency that also like works on voters as they
look at trump it's like well yeah he's like we love him but these are people making it fucking
real fucked up for people out there right now and i think that also has like it's subtly working on
voters too to see him as less of a leader just by virtue of him not being in office yeah well and
he like it's like he he did have like uh he had a stranglehold on the news cycle when he was still
president and not having that place to come from every day with something new it's like he doesn't
his his blips every once in a while now he doesn't have that same power position and i can't imagine
his ego would allow him to acknowledge the reality of that yeah so he's still operating from top and
it's like no man you're not because we've seen just from like the the kevin mccarthy tapes the
text messages they don't you know republicans don't like him, but also know they can't publicly dislike him.
So I'm curious, really, what's going to happen when this 2024 candidacy stuff becomes more real, how the party begins to move or just see what the response is, whether or not people are sort of like, yeah, you know, thanks so much for making it okay to just be out just openly hateful and a bigot like that's really what you did for us and now we've got some
other people who are kind of maintaining that same energy but seem like better candidates for us i
don't know if it's going to take that turn or they just all fall in line and they're like yes whatever
yeah sure just go ahead i'll drop out well i mean i think it's also like they they benefited from
having such a buffoon
in the figurehead place because they could do so
much that nobody was looking at it because
everyone was just looking at him
because he just wanted all the oxygen in the room.
So it depends if
they still think that that is a good
strategy or not. I mean
hopefully who fucking knows.
It really comes down
to whether he thinks it's a good strategy
because nobody can tell him anything.
I think that's an underrated detail,
is that at least in his first rise to power,
he had Bannon and people who would give him honest feedback, I guess,
that he was bouncing off of and now it just seems like he
is completely out on his own on an island just only hearing what he wants to hear like
well and he splintered a lot of his people with like coming out eventually being like people should
get vaccinated and stuff too so it's like you've like called people like it's like okay you
you have this like big chunk of people that are
like angry they think that was stolen
from you they're like not vaccinated and he's like
he's chipping them off in different ways
by like going back on certain
things like he isn't he isn't driving
the uh the
opinions of everybody anymore the way that he was
because like for so long it was just like
oh this new guy on the town but now he's had to like he's had to divide you know he's already a small
minority and i think especially when we saw like the boos that he got for talking about vaccines
at rallies that sort of began the normal normalization of yeah he can be wrong and i can
also agree with this other person that's a Republican who's doing it better in this aspect. And so it's not like they're against him, but now it just dilutes his power more when moments like that come up.
Exactly.
All right.
Let's take another quick break and we'll come back and talk about the multiverse.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted
members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control
groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted,
just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new,
chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely
necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,
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How do you feel about biscuits?
Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes
and I'm so excited about my new
podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head
back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to
convince my high school to change their racist mascot,
the Rebels, into something everyone in the
South loves, the biscuits. I was a
lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean?
The Boone County Rebels
will stay the Boone County rebels
with the image of... It's right here in
black and white in print. They lying.
An individual that came
to the school saying that God
sent him to talk to me about the
mascot switch is a leader.
You choose hills that you want to die on.
Why would we want to be the losing team?
I just take all the other
stuff out of it. Segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to be the losing team? I just take all the other stuff out of it.
Segregation academies.
When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools,
these charter schools were exempt from that.
Bigger than a flag or mascot.
You have to be ready for serious backlash.
Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and um as as we've
discussed before i love tracking like the national shared consciousness through what movies we all
choose to watch and like commit to memory and um you know a lot of that has to do with when I was working at Cracked
and we were publishing a lot of new articles and myth debunking,
I found that a lot of the myths were based on just things
that showed up in movies.
People's version of what happens in outer space
was based on what they had seen in movies in outer space.
I think movies really really, you know,
cement into our brain in ways that are probably slightly underrated.
Um,
and there's been like two movies that have been kind of anonymous,
uh,
anomalously successful in the past couple of years.
Uh,
one,
not very unexpected.
The Spider-Man multiverse one, one um where they got to bring back all
the uh old spiders men and all the old villains uh and then another one everything everywhere all at
once uh which like is still get it like doing bigger and bigger numbers every weekend and
like nobody i can't imagine anybody saw it coming it's like an indie film from the makers of swiss doing bigger and bigger numbers every weekend.
I can't imagine anybody saw it coming.
It's like an indie film from the makers of Swiss Army Knife Man.
Swiss Army Man.
Which is, you know.
The only thing I heard about that movie when it came out is that I think the kid who plays Harry Potter
farts his dead body across the ocean at one point.
He has a farting surfboard. Sweet. the kid who plays harry potter like farts his dead body across the ocean at one point he's a
farting surfboard so sweet yeah but i think the things that those two movies have in common is
they're both like about the multiverse um like from a the subject of the plot is the multiverse
and it's also like defines the structure of the movie.
And I don't know,
I like it obviously like this is not a new concept that is like never been explored before,
but it is,
you know,
there was a previous Spider-Man movie into the Spider-Verse that was more
successful than people expected it to be,
but it wasn't't the most successful movie
in movie theaters of the year or anything like that.
We've been covered in TV and movies
and mainly comic books.
Comic books were using multiverse plots for a long time but now it like feels like
it's like boiled up to a complete national obsession um which i think like from a narrative
perspective makes sense uh because it allows you to do like fun stuff and also kind of easy stuff the like every every plot thread like doesn't need to cohere
um but the concept the concept is like complicated it's you know when you try and explain it
coherently in words uh it's usually a mess so i don't know i think go ahead i mean i when when
you think about it,
what do you think is drawing people to the idea?
Is it just that it's our own sense of powerlessness
that the idea that even though I'm experiencing this reality,
I know that these other ones are possible
and that's what I'm...
I can soothe my wounds by having that sort of imagination
or what do you sort of imagination or what,
what do you sort of,
I think that's true.
I think people are like,
well,
I'm not going to retire,
but somewhere,
somewhere,
some version of me is going to get to retire.
And that just because like there is such a powerlessness and feeling like,
you know,
change happening in,
in this,
in this universe.
I think that is like a,
a way to,
a way to uh a way to
disassociate and feel a little powerful about it maybe the dangles the um filmmakers behind
everything everywhere all at once had like a pretty interesting uh analysis where they're saying
uh i'll just read a direct quote when i think about an infinite number of universes i just
think about meaning and narrative breaking down.
But there's something about the multiverse that's relatable these days when everybody is living out multiple lives on the internet,
depending on which username and platform you're on,
and you're also stumbling into other people's bubbles and subcultures.
So there's something about it that feels not that high concept.
Yeah. No, I mean, I think think that is that's why like even for a
movie like that despite it being a heady concept of like to grapple with like the quantum physics
of what a multiverse is and the infinite amount of outcomes that are possible and things like that
it it's just very it's just very simply i think taps in, I think, to this idea of like we all have of looking at our lives
and asking what if.
And like just using that as like sort of like our foundational
understanding of like a multi, you know, like what if my life changed
at this point?
Like how does it fork off there?
What happens if I did this at that point?
How would it fork off there?
And I think that's like a really, it's a very elegant way of getting into the that the film does but i don't i don't know like yeah part of
me i think the reason i'm interested is because for as a kid so often i would really think of like
what if that happened instead of this and then this and then this or like the first time i saw
time travel film where there were consequences that even gave me like that imagination like
holy shit like your life is
your life is like thousands of fucking moves where one thing could fucking deviate from you know what
you think you have now yeah oh for sure i remember being a kid and being in like fifth grade just
being like what if every a i got was actually an f and everyone thought i was stupid what would i do
then i remember or like if every decision was the opposite,
I was like,
what if my parents hated me and didn't love me?
Like,
how do you survive if that is,
you know,
it just was like weird survival shit.
I would put myself through.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had like a,
not,
not really like a near death experience,
but like I,
my friend,
uh,
who's very drunk,
like pulled me back from being in front of a speeding
bus like at the last second I went by my nose and like I've like I I'm like oh I'm probably dead in
like 95 percent of the universes that resulted from that um and so yeah I've always since I
heard like the quantum machine gun like uh quantum suicide and all that
quantum immortality like all those thought experiments i've been very interested in it
um but that like takes an entire show to like explain all that shit um and you know that's
so like that i guess that's what I'm like wondering is like,
are there,
there's also like really interesting physics at the,
at the core of it.
Like one of the most,
uh,
biggest mysteries in modern science is how,
like when they look at an electron at like the quantum level,
it can be spinning in two directions at the same time.
And like that that from that comes
like all the like schrodinger's cat and like all those different ideas where like a cat can be
both alive and dead at the same time and like everything exists in a cloud of probability
and like that stuff is all like some of the most interesting ideas and thinking happening in the world, in my opinion.
And it's interesting that even though you can't really use words
to explain that to people in a coherent way,
our movies have just kind of leapt to that
and been like, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't worry about it.
But this kind of feels like how things actually work, right? And there's a part of our minds where we're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. But this kind of feels like how things actually work, right?
And there's a part of our minds where we're just like, yeah, it does.
It's just really resonating.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I think the other part of the multiverse idea is, I don't know, man.
It can kind of help you feel like like make more sense of the chaos of
of life as it is you know like and i think that's a really it's another part of it of like
you know right if things can be bad or good or whatever then they can be this antithesis in
another place but i don't know if that helps people like give more meaning to their life or
less meaning like because it becomes like fantastic
or whatever to sort of like really sort of sit with that and like be like oh i wonder if you
know what my life would be like like this or this is a better way to sort of look at things but
um i don't know yeah it just seems like that like you're saying like it taps into something
where many people feel a certain like it's like a feeling that a person has but can't quite
articulate it or articulates it in many different ways, but kind of comes back to the central thing.
Yeah.
And I think it's also a way to kind of just be like, you know, this version of me didn't do X, but maybe somewhere else I did do that thing.
And we are so defined by like, you our productivity or whatever it's like some
some version of brandy posey did do stand up on conan o'brien you know what i mean right
and that means that i get to use that credit too god damn it uh yeah
here's my multiverse credits oh yeah yeah your multiverse credits i'm very successful uh over
there and i'm sure you would we probably
would have met because at that point i probably you probably would have just been for name casting
me by name casting me for this stuff but yeah exactly oh best picture in 2027 yep yep yep
exactly play cards right well you guys see a movie like everything everywhere all at once or the spider-man
no way home is that the multiverse one the most recent one i don't know i i felt released
from all things marvel after uh the last uh avengers movie and i haven't been back since
which was also a multiverse movie it was yeah yeah it was the time travel of it yeah um i like do you when you see that is there anything
inside you that's like that probably is how things are or do you feel like i'm watching a plot
contrivance like that just makes it easier to i think it's like it kind of falls into like a
category for me that is very like um it like i like i never i never want to say like oh
this is what i i know to be happening or whatever but it's very much like oh cool like i get what
people are spiritual like multiverse stuff kind of falls into that too where it's like yeah if
this concept like brings you comfort or empowers you in this moment cool um but like don't be concrete on things one way or the another
but it's like it's kind of like a prop towards you like feeling like a whole person kind of i i
think i think i would i have to look at a multiverse thing and not use that as a way to like
soothe my pain around a regret right i think that's one way you can look at it like oh my god
because you see like
you could have been the version where you know kihoi kwan was like the dreamy guy you know like
was doing his thing even though he wanted to be with her or whatever that is rather than i can
look at that and be a little more philosophical and try and look at it to say that your life
actually has infinite potential you know if all of these things are possible in
a multiverse theory like then you you do have you they're there you can't count out the ways in which
your life can play out to your benefit or even be aware to the ways that you know things might not
go the right way so i think that's kind of how i would i would take that in sometimes like a
multiverse thing can be used as like a total deus ex machina type
thing in a script and you're like okay there because there's a fucking multiverse oh great
um but i think some of these other films do it in a better way that are i think kind of help us
you know see our lives in a little more of like a poetic way if anything i mean i will never forget
the first time i saw it's not not multiverse necessarily but the first time I saw Men in Black and like the end
where they like pull back and
like our galaxy is just
one marble on like
a fucking marble game that this giant
thing is playing I mean
I was like in 8th grade or something
and I was like whoa I felt that
and like ever since
yeah it's just like one of those like oh like
any of this stuff,
I think anything that I think makes you realize how tiny your position in the
universe is,
is ultimately a good thing because if you can embrace that,
uh,
it can take away the pressure that like society puts on us.
Yeah.
And I think it's just nice to just feel a little bit more like,
Oh,
okay.
And everything is swirling chaos around me.
Cool.
Yeah.
I'm a fucking play thing for a three-fingered alien
on some playground far, far away.
Exactly.
Kind of nice.
Stephanie Hsu, who is incredible in everything,
everywhere, all at once,
had a pretty good summary of its its relation to the spiritual modern spiritual
condition she said even though we're in a semi-nihilist time i think there is a resurgence
of spirituality which i think is definitely true and then saying just feeling like what is the this
whole life thing why did i choose that path oh my gosh i was just thinking of this person then they
called me five minutes later it feels like we are operating sometimes on a frequency outside of our physical
plane it's also very confusing time so multiverse story is a way of tapping into this question of
why is this reality the way it is is it the only reality and does it work so yeah i don't know
imagination ultimately right yeah yeah you can think of something
different something better and then uh our writer jam mcnab wanted me to uh acknowledge that sliders
was a tv show sliders we saw you yeah 1995 to 2000 um but that was a show about like teenagers who,
for some reason,
like hot teenagers were the people who could access different parts of the
multiverse and like slide in between alternate realities.
And they are possibly doing a reboot.
So he wanted to make sure I mentioned that.
Well,
Star Trek Discovery,
the new Star Trek also has like a lot of multiverse
stuff especially in the first season
that's very cool
it's in the
daily zeitgeist guys
it is
we got to it like a couple years later
see we're on top of it
yeah
I do wonder also if this is just
like you mentioned Back to the future which i hadn't
really even associated with uh being a multiverse thing but like that idea is very clearly represented
in that movie in a very crude way where like suddenly your hand disappears from a photograph
that is just there with like one person instead of two like what was that one
person doing in that picture uh wow that's a weird picture of me just like that just with my arm
hovering in the air like it's around someone um there exactly but i wonder if this has like been
the gestation period for that idea and like now it's people are just like oh yeah because i think we
all we all talked about even thinking of this as children right right like like i said even i
didn't realize what i was saying i was referencing back to the future when i saw the like consequences
of time travel is when i even began to even conceptualize as a kid holy shit like one thing
can fucking change everything down the road good or bad and
yeah i mean well this is the whole like kind of plot basically of like rick and morty too right
yeah rick sanchez yeah just like discovers a way to travel between different universes and
fucks them all up and burps burps a lot he burps in every universe when i mentioned tv
shows exploring it i was specifically referencing like dan harman community shit and also rick and
morty and uh but yeah sliders i don't i do not want to engage in sliders erasure because
yeah it was a show it could happen and it's you know what i'd like to do i'd like to slide into
different dimensions and try sliders
in different dimensions.
How are we improving the burger,
the tiny burger in other dimensions?
The most high concept show
it's you're going
to other dimensions. You're
sliding to other dimensions to try
sliders. Yeah, listen.
Listen Food Network. I am
pitching this right now on the Daily Zeitgeist. I want to slide for sliders yeah listen listen food network i i am pitching this right now on the daily zeitgeist
i want to slide for sliders into other places i'll bring a camera crew co-host jonathan gold
and anthony bourdain yeah exactly sick show you're gonna love this shit yeah bring the show back is
what you need to say bring the show back you're like i sorry, did it ever exist? Oh, it did. Oh, it existed. It did.
The weirdest pitch meeting ever.
It's not all hot dog fingers.
Sometimes it's just a hamburger.
Yeah, exactly.
Totally.
Hamburger TV shows.
Thank you.
Well, Brandy, such a pleasure having you.
Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Sure.
I'm on Twitter and instagram at brand dazzle and
i am uh begrudgingly on tiktok at brand dazzle is here because somebody else has my main username
on there um all i ever post are uh me changing my 12 foot skeleton costumes on tiktok uh and
they do also get posted on my instagram too um and then uh yeah i've got uh if you use bands
in town you can follow me on there brandy posy for tour dates that eventually will start back
up this year my podcast lady to lady is every wednesday but we also do a monthly uh zoom show
on the first sunday of every month that's very fun and we have like cool guests and we get like
weird variety acts like we have like a like a balloon making clown that's gonna make us a bunch of weird shit this month so and we just do
a lot of weird stuff over there um and then i also produced uh an album uh called burn this pandemic
that's coming out later this year and it's raising money for sila where it's 20 comedians uh doing
like three minute pandemic sets of just like
burning their
pandemic material
just like all in one place
basically
and that'll come out
later this summer
so follow me on all the places
and that's got people
like
like Jamie Loftus
is on that
like Chris Gethard
Chris Estrada
like a lot of people
Matt Lieb
like a lot of people
that have been on the show
it's a great
it's a really great lineup
it was a super fun night
to record
and all the profits from it are going for a good cause
so follow me on all the things
to find out when that drops
cool
and is there a tweet or some other work of social media
you've been enjoying
yeah I have two things
on Instagram there is an account called
Zillotastrophes
and it's a woman that just finds the craziest houses in the market and then just walks you
through them.
And it's just fun to know that I'll never own a real house,
but to see people that have squandered the opportunity of having one is nice.
Um,
and then also today is the,
uh,
Steve Donziger just got,
uh,
released,
uh,
from his like 993 days of house arrest if you
guys don't know his story or not uh and today he like he has posted a picture on his twitter of
like him holding up his like release paperwork and he's like he's a free man for the first time
in years and that like hit a special spot seeing that this morning too so he's the lawyer who got put in house arrest for and then actual jail i
think for uh for prosecuting a chevron prosecuting chevron like proving that they were guilty
yep yeah truly a wild story oh what if you were guilty is how much power they have as a fucking
company yeah yeah yeah his story is like terrifying to see but it's just like i'm very happy for him to finally be out he's having like a big block party tonight and it's just very like
you know happy for him yeah yeah yeah uh miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've
been enjoying oh find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also about the basketball podcast
mad boosties check that out with jack and i and also for 20 day fiance uh with sophia alexandra Instagram at milesofgray. Also, the basketball podcast, Mad Boosties.
Check that out with Jack and I.
And also, 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra.
Let's see.
Some tweets that I like.
Let's see.
Let me find one.
Okay, yes.
This is from Steve Monticelli at stevanzetti on Twitter stev van zeddy on twitter uh tweeted remember folks if
elon musk buys twitter it will be up to us to make sure the value of this platform plummets to
unprecedented and potentially bankruptcy inducing lows so yeah look if it comes to that we're gonna
have to get organized on twitter and just burn it down um And then Brody Reed tweeted,
Erwan, a place to stay.
Get your booty on the floor tonight.
Make my day.
I like swapping in Erwan for that one.
That's great.
Amazing.
Man, the business world is so horny about this Elon Musk news.
God, truly stunning.
He's done it.
It's like fucking 96 Jordan finals for these losers.
Right, right, right.
Anyways, we will have talked about that on yesterday's trending.
Tweet I've been enjoying.
Jason Mott tweeted,
remember it took four unsuccessful Mambos before we got mambo number
five be patient with yourself um and then uh i also enjoyed sarah jay tweeting there's honestly
plenty of worms you don't even need to get up early for them um you can find i like the multiverse
where mambo number one hit number one mam 1. Mambo No. 1 was huge, actually, for me, personally.
But I was real into the deep cuts at that point in my life.
Can you imagine, but in that version, too, the lyrics are all screwed up?
Because he's not even like,
One, one, one, one, one, everybody get down for mambo number one and you're like wait
what what you know five like a lot of the rhymes are all fucked up in this
um you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily
zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we're off to the
information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you
might enjoy uh miles what song do we think people might enjoy this is a track off the new push it
t album it's almost dry came out friday but the first track is a time machine because it's a Pharrell beat with Pusha T,
and I feel like it's 2004 or whatever.
Last time when Neck and Wrist came out, I was like,
it's good for the old millennial rap fans.
And yes, the first track on the album is pretty good,
and yeah, the rest of the album is not bad too.
So this is Brambleton by Pusha T.
Hell yeah.
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