The Daily Zeitgeist - MAGA Paranoia Getting Worse, Graceland SCAM?! 05.23.24
Episode Date: May 23, 2024In episode 1681, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Parenting is a Joke, Ophira Eisenberg, to discuss... MAGA Victim Narrative Update, Elvis’ Graceland Home Was Foreclosed By Alleged ...Scammers and more! GOP lawmakers conflate standard FBI policies with an assassination attempt on Trump ‘Pathetic Question!’ Seb Gorka Blasts Reporter Outside Courthouse Who Points Out Trump Is Part of the Ruling Class Elvis’ Graceland Home Was Foreclosed By Alleged Scammers What is Naussany Investments? What we know about company in Graceland foreclosure dispute Elvis Presley's granddaughter Riley Keough in fight to save to Graceland “The Elvis Estate’s Trust Issues Are Over” County has no deed for Graceland; Elvis Presley’s family calls sale ‘a scam’ Memphis Offers to Pay to Keep Graceland This Has to Be One of the Most Ridiculous Corporate Welfare Deals in Quite Some Time Can Elvis Rise Again? Taxpayers shouldn't have to fund Graceland expansion, mayor says LISTEN: Beanie by ChezileSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Did you ever have a lucky penny?
Were you into that at all?
There was one point where like one of when we
were moving one of my dad's friends gave me a lucky silver dollar is that the one with kennedy
on it or is that a half dollar that's either yeah i think it was a half dollar and he was like hey
this is like really important you hang on to this it's lucky and i like it lasted like a year and a
half and then when you lost it you had like a fucking break's lucky and i like it lasted like a year and a half and
then when you lost it you had like a fucking break yeah i think i lost it i just spent that
shit on like a baseball card or something yeah yeah one pack of spearmint gum my good man
or two i guess because it used to cost 25 cents back back in my day did you have like long-lasting
luck charms no no because i was like one of those
kids who the second it didn't work i was like this is bullshit then yeah yeah you know what
i mean like i was so like about like absolutes you know because i am a sith um that when it's
like i remember like praying like going to like lutheran school and like that concept was introduced
to me and they're like what are you doing like you asked god for stuff and the second i didn't
get some shit i prayed for i was like this is a fucking joke're like, what are you doing? Like, you ask God for stuff. And the second I didn't get some shit I prayed for, I was like, this is a fucking joke, y'all.
What are y'all doing?
Sports fans learn early on that prayer doesn't work like that.
No, no, no.
So just abandon hope, y'all.
Yeah.
And embrace the dollar.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
But anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,
by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Miles Gray, a.k.a. the host with no graham,
a.k.a. No Ho Dank, a.k.a. the Lord of Lancashire,
the Prince of North Hollywood. Miles Gray, thank you so much for having me. Also, the Shogun with no graham aka noho dank aka the lord of lancashire the prince of north hollywood
miles gray thank you so much for having me also the shogun with no gun the show gun
one let that know don't fuck with guns swords though got a lot of swords yeah and i have i
got i have cut my hands real bad trying to do tricks with them real bad something nasty
just fumbling oh yeah just trying to throw it in the air like
i don't think that's a ninja move i'm like i don't care i'm iterating you flip it up in the air and
then you start spinning around like it's like a baton toss exactly like the whatever that like one
rhythmic gymnastics routine is with like the little flag stick yeah yeah oh that shit goes
hard i saw a video of someone throwing it
in a local competition, but
there was like these light, there was like a light
grid above and she kept
throwing it up like for her last trick and it would
get caught in the thing. So she'd panic and have
to get a backup. And then she did it again and
it got stuck. And then she just so defeated after
her routine. She's like, thank, just like
bowed. And I was like, I guess that's it. Cause like my
fucking stick is stuck on.
Lost all my fucking sticks.
Lost my flag stick.
Fuck.
Well, Miles,
we're thrilled to be joined
in our third seat
by a very funny stand-up comic
currently performing
in New York,
Massachusetts,
coming up.
She's a writer,
actor,
host of the podcast
Parenting is a Joke.
It's Ophira Eisenberg!
Ophira!
Yay! Welcome back. podcast parenting as a joke it's oprah eisenberg oprah something jewish there you go there you go did you say oprah well sometimes one time in my performing life i was introduced on stage by you know i was doing a fundraiser and the woman
who was introduced to me wasn't really used to being on stage but she wanted to welcome me and she blanked on my name and then she just searched for something and she just went
oprah and then lost faith and just went something jewish
i was introduced as oprah Oprah something Jewish. Wow. Wow.
Wow. Oprah.
Sometimes I think that would sell tickets, honestly.
Yeah.
I'm like, I should just go with that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you would be curious.
You would be curious.
For sure.
For sure.
Oh, man.
We were just talking about Oprah this morning.
Yeah, we were.
She's like the bringer of all kinds of bad conspiracy theories for moms just thinking
about that like in the 90s and 2000s because specifically i was i was on another podcast
talking about rainbow parties and that was a thing that oprah definitely mainstreamed when
she had someone on her show and be like what are the kids doing now and it was a very pearl clutchy
episode right anyway right right the kids they're always getting
into bad stuff yeah oh the kids yeah yeah but like this was definitely some producers and like
faith ministers just getting horny talking about this stuff i feel like yeah yeah the level of
specificity of the rainbow party they just couldn't i think themselves yeah my
theory is that it's a it's something that started with adolescent boys who made up a fantasy world
that they wish they existed and then that got seeded through the zeitgeist and then uh like a
christian woman heard it and totally died and then had to write about it right they were like
i heard that she was i heard katie was doing that to like all
the boys and that's why and then like the mom credulously so bored that she was like yeah okay
well good thing good thing i'm a christian pediatrician with a book deal because that's
going in my next fucking book because we're gonna it go forward. Let's get this out there, everybody.
Let's make it real.
Yeah, that's right.
Couldn't do it.
How you been, Ophira?
I've been fine.
I don't know.
This is like, I say fine,
but I feel like the fine I say now
and the fine I said last year
and the fine I said the year before,
they're all different fines.
And I feel like it's degrading, honestly.
The fine is getting less.
Yeah, the vibes have been on a downward slope recently, for sure.
Yeah, that's why it's just fine to just say fine.
Fine.
Yeah.
I'm existing.
I'm existing.
And the existence is not too painful.
But there is pain.
Let's say it's pain-free.
but there is pain i uh i was thinking like i've never met someone that has said live in the dream and not been completely sarcastic about it right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no fine is good
it's also the word for what you use when you've lost an argument you know yeah fine fine fine
whatever yeah yeah live in the dream if someone If someone said they were living the dream earnestly to me,
I would take that as an act of violence against me.
I'd be like, oh, you're living the dream?
Right.
Oh, really?
Okay.
You like that guy who was too good for anger management?
Yeah, yeah.
Miles had it.
Don't bring that up.
Don't bring that up.
What happened?
Just a kid that Miles knew when he was younger said that he walked out on the movie Anger Management.
Walked out?
Yeah, he said it was so bad.
And I said, oh, so you're a tough guy, huh?
And then I choked him out until he was unconscious.
And it was, and look, look, my parents were splitting up.
I had a lot going on.
I had a lot on my plate.
I was 16.
It's just such a great, like, thing to call somebody to flip out.
Just a response. You're like, oh, you're fucking cool. You're that cool because you walked out of Anger Management. I had a lot going on. I had a lot on my plate. I was 16. It's just such a great thing to call somebody to flip out.
Oh, you're fucking cool.
You're that cool because you walked out of anger management.
Oh, you're so cool you walked out of anger management.
You think you're better than me.
I have now become violent.
So, Fira, my theory was, oh, well, of course, Miles really loved anger management.
And he felt like this guy was insulting something that he loved, right?
Yeah.
Didn't see it. Still hasn't right? Yeah, didn't see it.
He still hasn't seen it.
He hasn't seen it.
I just didn't like the vibe.
Yeah, that was me back then.
I was like, you know what?
So you're better than Jack Nicholson?
You're better than the bear, Jack Nicholson, the golfer?
The bear.
You're better than Adam Sandler, pal?
Yeah.
And what were the repercussions?
What were the repercussions?
Were you sent to therapy?
Were you?
No, no, no.
It was just one of those things that happened in the shadows at school and you swore them to see Chris.
You don't fucking tell nobody.
That's amazing because I got a call from the nurse at my kid's school today telling me that in gym, my kid threw a ball and he ran for it at the same time as another
kid and they rammed into each other and they want and now he has a bit of a fat lip and i was like
uh-huh so why are we on the phone so yeah you know because you see the number of the kid's school on
your phone and like immediate panic huge of course i was like i had to calm
myself down i was walking in tight circles yeah right oh yeah just to prepare yourself to answer
you're like okay hello yeah right and they're like a fuck team not yeah that's every day you
know yeah yeah yeah yeah no i get that but no this um didn't. To be honest, I remember I was like, I told a teacher, I was like, he's he fell.
Because they saw the aftermath.
Yeah, yeah.
And like when he woke up and like tried to explain what happened, like it makes so little sense.
Like the teacher would be like, wait, what?
So what the fuck?
And he's like, go talk to the dean about this.
Yeah.
And then it was just like still shrouded in
mystery that it just kind of ended there anyway i feel terrible for it i've moved on i've grown
since then and i've not done when i was like eight or nine i started like throttling someone's neck
like this kid at my on my playground he was like a year older than me but he was like smaller
and and the like person like who oversaw lunch just like pulled me.
I was like, what the wait, wait, you're not like that.
What are you doing?
Right.
Right.
Right.
I know.
I'm sorry.
I just lost it.
He, uh, he insulted anger management and I was, I was like that as a kid because I didn't
know how to express myself.
So I bottled everything up and then we explode like every three years and do something wild but anyway shout out shout out
therapy i think what she meant was you're not usually like that you usually just burst into
tears what the fuck was that right yeah i had the same response anger just turned into like a
nuclear core meltdown. I'm like, what, fool? I'm like, nothing.
As they say, my friends, hurt people hurt people.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Like a teacher calling an eight-year-old who's sobbing, fool.
Yeah.
What, fool?
What, fool?
All right.
Well, Farrah, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.
We're going to talk about the latest victim narrative update from the MAGA world.
Because they got some theories as to what's going on.
Yeah, with Trump.
Great all-American story about Elvis's Graceland home being foreclosed on.
It was a headline all over the place in the past week.
And now it turns out that it was kind of a scam.
Oh.
But that there's like all sorts of dark disagreements happening with Elvis's estate.
And just an interesting story for our time.
All of that, plenty more.
But first, Ophira, we do like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
I mean, I would say revealing about what I'm dealing with right now is,
you know, I host this podcast all about parenting.
I am a parent.
And this morning, we got an email from the school that they love sending this email.
The subject line is how many days of school are left.
They're like, 22 days left of school.
Oh, shit.
Triggering, triggering.
Do you know where your child is?
Yeah.
And I was like, last minute, I mean, basically, I was just looking at last, by what I'm calling, last minute summer camps.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, sure.
And there's this one, because I have this theory that I didn't go to summer camp as a kid.
Didn't go to sleepaway camp.
The camp for me growing up, you know, I'm the youngest of six.
We had a house with a backyard.
It wasn't particularly special or nice.
And the summer was, go to the backyard.
Stay there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or go find a friend or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For sure.
No camp.
Like, my parents weren't going to spend money on any of that stuff.
They didn't have it to spend.
But here in New York,
it's all ultra-programmed.
People do sleepaway camps with their kids
when they're like four years old,
which I'm like,
what four-year-old is that?
Yeah.
But anyways,
and all of this stuff.
And we have to do some mixture of that.
But the one I want kind of exists.
And it doesn't really cost a lot,
which is someone has a space or a home.
I don't even know.
And it is,
they call it like the Montessori method,
but I think that's just to make it cool where they just have a bunch of
different rooms with some stuff in it.
Like one has this kind of toy.
The other one has a video game and And the kids self-guide.
Wow.
Different rooms.
Fun.
And I think, yeah.
And I think there's like medium supervision by a bunch of teenagers that are probably making TikTok videos the whole time.
Right, right.
Just vaping.
And then like a box of vaping.
Yeah.
Hey, get off there.
Check this smoke trick out though.
Oh, pineapple. Did you know they made pineapple
pina colada actually and uh yeah and then like a box full of uh cheetos or something like that
loose loose in a cardboard box just yeah just dump the cheetos into that box there they'll be
all right they'll be all right for another hour yeah and that's that's the one i want i feel like
all of these hyper like your kids gonna walk out of here. I feel like all of these hyper, like your kid's going to walk out of here,
a STEM certified engineer of a architect or like whatever.
It's what they always offer.
You look at it on the page.
And I mean,
I'm often like,
I want to go to the summer camp.
It's insane.
Yeah,
man.
Is it like super competitive?
Like how like preschools are like getting be like, oh, we like, as you say, last minute summer camp, you're like, fuck, that was something I had to do in March. Not very. Type Z. Yeah. Yeah. So there was a few.
I was a little bit concerned.
But it seems the one that I want is available.
They just want you to give them a chunk of money.
Yeah.
They're like, yeah, don't ask much questions.
It's at a home or a space.
Whatever.
Like, you're never allowed in.
But we need that money and all cash up front.
Yeah, exactly. Just put a sack with
a dollar sign. Why did you specify
unmarked bills?
And non-sequential.
And why did you say small bills?
Nothing bigger than a
five.
What is something you think is underrated?
Underrated.
You know, maybe this is related.
I didn't think about it as related.
I didn't think of my underrated as related to my Google search.
But I was like, no one talks about the upside of dropping the ball.
Always.
Like, I'm actually a personality that is not very like i don't drop the ball
honestly i don't okay so you're a little type a on little type a but recently just because of life
i've been dropping the ball here and there and at first i was feeling really bad about it because
every every external factor tells you that you should feel like crap about it and as a woman i
should really feel really bad because what what is my contribution if i'm not caring everyone's goddamn balls yeah yeah drop no ball lady yeah but it turns out that sometimes
when you drop the ball like you don't get back to something like you just forget about things or you
don't do summer camp on time or whatever it's uh look it's solved like it's amazing you could drop
balls and you just get more efficient at solving them quickly. Yeah. I think the part of the ball dropping process is also giving yourself like the confidence in yourself that you can address any kind of anomalous thing that happens, any deviation from your set out plan, any contingency.
Because like, I'm just thinking of like what my therapist said, and I can't drop the ball.
And it's like, but don't you trust yourself that even if the ball is dropped, that you would be able to figure it out.
I'm like,
Ooh,
maybe.
Damn.
Yes.
I do trust my,
you know what?
I'm dropping the ball.
Cause I know I can pick it back up.
Yeah.
But I won't be paying you this week.
Is that okay?
Is that cool?
I'm going to drop the ball.
One thing I need you to not drop the ball.
I might drop the ball on this payment, though.
So, yeah, I often think of like, you know, there's a bunch of things in this world that we always talk about.
Like, you know, there's so many people talking about trauma and how trauma affects your life.
And I'm sometimes like, what's the upside of trauma?
Like sometimes, you know, you don't have to diet because you're so consumed with your trauma.
You're not eating sugar.
You're not doing that at all.
Yeah, you realize I'm not taking care of myself.
But hey, look, it had other parts that go along with it.
Yeah, the older I've gotten, the more I've realized that I'm incredibly bad at judging like what is going like.
I feel stressed out about the wrong things.
I like worry about the wrong
things and then oh what should you be worrying about uh-oh now i'm worried do i worry about the
wrong things what should i be worried about well i just like you know events or something that i'm
like dreading end up being fine or good and then you know the stuff that just say it jack it's the
migrant convoys that are headed to our southern i. I just spend, I mean, I've been pitching this story to Miles forever.
I'm like, it's xenophobic fear monk. They're talking about it on the news, man.
You can see the corkboard behind me, but there's some things that I need people to listen to.
Is that dread on the corkboard?
Oh, yeah.
It's dread, right?
Yeah.
It's yarn.
Yeah.
Gosh.
But yeah, I just, I feel like a lot of, you know, I talked to an older person one time
and they were like, if I had known like now what I, or if I had known then what I know
now, like I wouldn't have worried about 95% of the shit that I spent my life worrying
about.
I know.
Yeah.
That's like when I look back.
Easy for you to say. Easy for you to say.
Easy for you to say, asshole.
But when I look back at an old to-do list
full of things that are stressing me out
that I have to get done,
I don't even remember what most of them are.
They're just so insignificant.
So dumb.
Yeah.
On the other side of that,
I feel like any time someone's doing the...
An older person is doing a reflection of like,
you know, when I think about it now it now was really just spend time with loved ones and, you know, friends and family.
And you're like, yeah, but you made a fortune.
You didn't do that for a very, very, very, very, very long time.
And now you're saying we should all spend time with loved ones.
Yeah, you've been doing that for like 35 minutes.
Yeah, it's like a millionaire biography.
Who's just like, in retrospect, I just pulled myself up by the bootstraps.
And it was really easy.
And I didn't need anybody.
But like, I just don't at all.
Should have spent time with my family.
What is something you think is overrated?
You know what I don't like?
Mocktails.
Mocktails are going crazy right now around me.
Everyone with their mocktails.
And I guess there's a,
I was going to say there's like a rise of sobriety,
but no,
it's just alcohol because everyone's microdosing heroin or whatever they're
doing.
Yeah.
Microdosing heroin is so bad.
Just a little bit, man, just a little bit,
man,
just a little bit.
And I'm so much better at the office.
I'm so much better.
Yeah.
So there's mock,
you know,
so there's this big thing,
mocktails and they're served in,
you know,
martini glasses and cocktail wear and they have garnishes.
And,
uh,
often they have a,
a taste profile that is supposed to feel like,
you know,
something kind of interesting.
And they're $7 or $8 or $12.
They have premium price.
Way more, yeah.
And you know what they are?
Juice.
Juice, yep.
Juice that sometimes tastes like shit, though.
Like a tequila.
Like it has tequila in there, but it doesn't.
Yeah, you're like, you know it would be okay if i was drunk
at the end of this right that would make it better maybe worth the money yeah they've done it's i
think it's pretty genius that they've just found a way to upsell people on juice right because like
i've i remember the other day i had a mocktail because i wasn't drinking or whatever it's like
oh this seems interesting and then i'm like this just tastes like a fucking good juice like yeah but it's because they said it had like you know pea flour and like it turns it blue or
whatever that i'm like oh shit it turns it blue you know what i mean and then i'm like i paid 13
dollars for what tastes like apple juice with grenadine i think yeah exactly with like a sort
of like burnt lemon floating on top of it right yes. Yes. Don't eat the burnt lemons, by the way. I've tried that. I've been like, they look tasty.
They look like candy.
The ones that kind of look candied and then you bite into them and you're like, oh, this is made of wax, essentially.
Eating the wax lemon in the middle of the table.
I mean, I get the like a sort of visual thing of like, don't wanting, you visually be like well if other people are drinking alcohol and i'm not then this sort of helps that
for sure but i'm i ask you jack as someone who's sober did does the mocktail appeal to you from in
that yeah sometimes like just to like i like a spicy mocktail sometimes just because that's you
know like a real gingery like knock your senses clear but for the most part
it doesn't bother me to like not appear to be drinking anymore but it did when i first stopped
drinking for sure and like mocktails were cool for that but also you know just seltzer water and a
lime also works well for that so right but i But I think the mocktail culture is mocking people who are sober.
I think it's for people who are literally just playing with different drugs.
Yeah.
Because for people that are sober, there's no way you should be charged $12.
Like, that is the double insult.
Yeah.
The double insult.
Yeah.
There's a dipshit.
There's like, what happened to the cost- cost saving benefit of not drinking alcohol all the time?
It's like,
well,
you know,
that's why I mean like,
you know,
good trip is always,
if you're not drinking,
just say you're the designated driver.
And usually bartenders just hook you up with non-alcohol typically.
Is that right?
I've never tried that.
Yeah.
I mean like when I was doing like event bar managing and stuff and just having to take like a lot of bar classes and hanging around that like scene like the designated driver thing was always
kind of like a way to be like yeah dude i'm can i just get a soda with a lime i'm a dozen like dd
tonight yeah yeah even though i don't drink i insist that the people who drank actually drive
me home so that's i have a weird i'm weird like that. And just backseat drivering. Oh, look at this guy!
Are we on a fucking slalom course here, buddy?
Someone's line dancing.
I don't know about this one.
You gotta find your risk somewhere, right?
Everyone just probably takes the
same 10 out of 10.
It doesn't matter where it goes.
Yeah, you get pulled over, you just snitch on the driver.
Yeah, officer, he's drunk.
I tried to tell him.
He is blasted.
Try to take his keys away.
All right.
Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some news.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers,
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And we're back and yeah so there's the republicans have kind of mastered the art of
making themselves the victim in any situation no matter what they love to talk about cancel
culture love to talk about how the the left is obsessed with like being
the victim and truly couldn't be any truer of them racism is happening to me actually
my white privilege like everything it's honestly it would be impressive if it weren't so predictable
and nonsensical but the fact that they try it every time, I think, is commendable. But yeah, this week we had to endure all kinds of
nonsense. We had people shrieking outside of the courthouse. We had conspiracy theories so bad it
does a disservice to actual conspiracy theories. But first up, I just want to talk about the
carnival of ass-faced suits, a.k.a. know, chorus of sycophants that he has outside
the courtroom. They have diligently stood by Donald Trump as he concludes his Stormy Daniels
hush money trial where, again, he's facing over 30 felony charges for falsifying business records.
And it was like these events tended to be like half vice president auditions and half like who can cry the hardest
about Trump being persecuted in like the most unbelievable way. This week's winner is Texas
Lieutenant Governor. What are you doing over there, fool? Dan Patrick. He made a really
interesting point about how Trump is being targeted. I won't say I won't say by who, because it's it's better
when you just hear it out of his mouth to say who is going after Trump. Let's hear it. Lieutenant
Governor Dan Patrick is the average American. What happens to any of you if the courts in New York
come after any of you because of something you said, because you said something the ruling class
didn't like. And that's what all these other countries are about. They shut down the ruling class didn't like. And that's what all these other countries are about. They shut down the ruling class. They want to be, they want to be sure that anyone that speaks
up against the ruling class disappears. They want Donald Trump to disappear. They want
to send him to jail. They want to take him off the main stage because they know here's
their biggest danger to take taking the ruling class down.
No, you don't want to say Donald Trump is not the ruling class.
Would a member of the ruling class be facing 730 years in prison?
What a pathetic question.
Would a member of the ruling class?
This is so fucking wild.
I mean, he's getting hit jobs by the ruling class.
I love the phrase the ruling class, by the way.
I think that summarizes democracy and just a couple of nice words of America.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
Just in case you thought we were all equal.
Right.
I would say to stand up there as the lieutenant governor of one of our most backward states right
now is and talking about a former president of the fucking america i would say by definition y'all are
part of the ruling class like i don't think you need to google this one but again the way they
have to twist their little brains up to be like yeah that's a good one that's a good one uh he's
backed by like trump's ivy league educated son who's like masquerades that's a good one. That's a good one. He's backed by Trump's Ivy League educated son
who masquerades as a blue-collar guy
by shooting things and having a goatee.
He's up there with him.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, they're all just regular people.
They're just like us.
They're fine.
They're fine.
I would love to see just a march of people
in their ruling class where I want to see some capes. I love to see just a a march of people in their ruling class where
i want to see some uh i want to see some capes i want to see some crowns i want to hear that yeah
yeah and i feel bad for them for a long time i would say i've been like but what about the
ruling class yeah truly i do think like i think there's a point like early on when he first
started performing well in the polls i think a lot of people would
roast him for looking like shit and like having bad like hair and makeup like and that i don't
know like now it feels like most of the criticisms of donald trump have to do with things he actually
did while president of the united states or like his aspiring authoritarianism.
But I do like just in retrospect, I wish that hadn't been the way that a lot of people approached it,
because I do think it left an impression like the sort of, you know, he's never going to be one of the Manhattan elites.
Right. Right.
Although it was the like, you know, in the beginning it was like he's a fool
yeah and then quickly became he's a villain right you know that wasn't just like no one everyone was
just like what yeah we thought you you wanted to make fun of his hair yeah yeah right yeah exactly
that was the gentle time right now i mean yeah it's it's like well he was the president so
he's no longer in the i don't know i think that may be the logic again but sir also oh my god
again lieutenant governor of texas to say that out loud while y'all are doing everything to
rule over how people's bodies are used by the people who are operating their own bodies like
that's real rich
to be like you say something they don't like or i'm sorry we don't like you know they're gonna
get you um we're gonna get you sorry i mean they fuck uh it's like wow he even he caught himself
up he was like i know because they'll get the other rule ruling class it's a ruling class will not allow me again yeah which side am i on again can anyone tell me which side
i'm on yeah let me just play that again because like it is wild that he's like he gets some he
gets downhill momentum going for it but real because it's so absurd he can't stick the landing
because there is no landing pad from a fucking lieutenant governor talking about the ruling
class i'm just gonna play it again and that's what all these other countries are about they shut down the ruling class
they want to be and they want to be sure that anyone that speaks up against the ruling class
disappears they want to these other countries shut down the ruling class i mean that's true
in the respect that like the people
the wealthy are the most powerful they've ever been in this country so like he did like start
himself down a path towards like saying something that is true and then that they want to be
yeah the ruling class what sir just other countries shut down the ruling class by making them pay taxes and not letting them make all the decisions.
Yeah. Doing some light tax fraud.
Can you believe it? Because Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is currently getting cooked in her Congress beef with Representative Jasmine Crockett, also from Texas, decided to take the focus off her bleach blonde, bad built butch body, as it was said during that congressional tiff earlier this week.
Who said that?
Jasmine Crockett.
I kind of missed that.
Oh, so there was this whole moment.
I should just actually play it for you because it is, it's wild.
Basically what happened was they were, this was during a hearing, an oversight hearing, a committee hearing where they were going to like, I think, reprimand or impeach Merrick Garland for not releasing these tapes from like the investigation that Robert Herr did into Joe Biden.
And, you know, that's where his conclusion was like he's a
confused old man and the republicans wanted to unseal like all these tapes and shit obviously
for their dark aims right and the doj was like no there's no fucking way we're doing that so then
they're like well we're gonna fucking get mad at you in our committee and in that jasmine crockett
says do do do do you even know what we're here for? And then Marjorie Taylor Greene says, I mean, do you even know what you're here for?
Because I think maybe your fake eyelashes are kind of messing up like what you can even read.
And everyone's like, OK, why are we talking about people's appearances?
And then Jasmine Crockett was like, can I just clarify something?
Like if we're talking about people and we're not actually making like insults about their appearances so
she's like so if i talked about her bleach blonde bad built butch body uh that like and it like
james comer was fucking he's like huh for what it's just like so bad and now jasmine crockett
is like making merch and selling it to like support other democratic candidates and marjorie
taylor green was like i am built strong and like uploaded a video of her doing like dead merch and selling it to like support other democratic candidates. And Marjorie Taylor Greene was like,
I am built strong and like uploaded a video of her doing like deadlifts and
cleans and shit.
And everyone's like,
this is the most chaotic version of every exercise that you've ever seen.
I mean,
you had that,
you had that loaded in your brain for,
you don't just come up with bleach blonde,
bad built,
butch body.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, she's got, she's got a fierce tongue you know what i mean like if you fuck with her
she claps back pretty quickly so i don't know i mean it may have been off top you know as an as
an ad lib that's yeah just yeah gorgeous it's a piece of poetry well and like now too this whole
thing is turned off with other people like sampling her saying that and making their own songs.
Like there's like a country version.
It's become like its own Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef, except in Congress.
And that's our reality now.
So therefore, it does not have many lessons.
No.
Or a lot.
So many that people like breaking down each part like, OK, so bleat blonde.
Now take the B and eat like, OK, we get it.
But anyway, she wants to take the focus off of that controversy and remind people that the FBI and Joe Biden are trying to do assassinations on Trump.
So Trump on Truth Social truthed this thing.
social truth this thing he said quote wow i just came out of the biden witch hunt trial in manhattan the quote icebox and was shown reports that crooked joe biden's doj and their illegal and
unconstitutional raid of mar-a-lago authorized the fbi to use deadly parenthetical lethal force
now we know for sure that joe biden is a serious threat to democracy. He's mentally unfit to hold office.
25th Amendment.
25th Amendment.
And Marjorie Taylor Greene quote tweeted that and said, I made sure that he knew the Biden,
DOJ and FBI were planning to assassinate President Trump and gave the green light.
Does everybody get it yet?
What are Republicans going to do about it i
tried to oust our speaker who funded biden's doj and fbi but democrats stopped it um paul gosar
also joined on the bullshit and said that biden quote ordered the hit on trump at mar-a-lago
but of course again this is just they saw records about like the authorization of a raid and that they saw like
again quote this is according to the justice department policy law enforcement officers are
allowed to use force only when no other safe alternatives appear to exist that's just like
boilerplate standard cop shit and even like conservative pundits who like love to fucking
embrace trump like those who had a background like in the fbi or law enforcement
were also shitting on this one saying like this is boilerplate shit y'all like and truly nothing
so go eat a fucking burger please yeah so you know it feels like it's taking it up a notch like it
oh definitely oh once you're saying like he's trying to kill me like you're saying like, he's trying to kill me, like you're basically calling your followers out if they aren't at least ready to like do something about it.
Yeah.
I think it's also, it speaks to his level of senility because if you've had an elderly, you know, relative be like, I think the nurse is stealing my scrabble pieces.
It's like, oh, we getting paranoid now?
What's going on? But again, to your point, like the rhetoric is meant to make, put as much like, you know, emotion, anger, violence, like into this election as possible to try and motivate people.
But also, you know, they're kind of, you got to appreciate the fact that they're kind of, there's no other cards to play.
Like they played them all and now they're just straight to like, well, trying to kill him it's like right well that really we're just going right
to that yeah yeah he is all right so what do we do anything else got it no we gotta stop them
that's who the i think because this is their rhetorical like strategy against what the
democrats are saying the republicans are which
like they're a threat to democracy like they truly want to just like fucking nuke any sense
of democratic norms like what little we have left in this country just completely obliterate them
so they're like oh we're a threat to democracy you tried to assassinate trump who's the real
threat to democracy and everyone's like right the fuck are you talking about like yeah trump wasn't even there when the raid happened so like
are the feds that laughably bad at their job that they botched the assassination attempt at a time
when the target wasn't even in the red okay sure but whatever you say whatever whatever stories
you are weaving in your little i know it's like's like death of democracy. No, no, no, we're killing the other guy.
Yeah.
Wait a second.
The ruling class.
The ruling class.
It's like while Biden and like sort of the Democratic main strategy going into November seems to just merely be like crying about how bad the Republicans are, their opponents are also crying to their base about how mean the Democrats are.
And I think it should be noted that neither are really putting forward ideas to get the
electorate excited about the future at all. It's like, this guy fucking sucks. And they're like,
this guy tried to kill me. And you're like, what the fuck, dude? What about a child tax credit?
I know I would love to hear one piece of policy. I would love to hear one vision, one idea,
I would love to hear one piece of policy.
I would love to hear one vision, one idea,
other than, you know... He's going to kill me.
He's going to kill me.
And AI is taking our jobs.
You know what?
And I was like,
AI is coming after animators and designers.
Take the president.
Like, why don't we get Chet GBT
against both of these dudes?
Run AI as a candidate.
Yeah, third party.
Yeah, like third late candidate. Put open AI as a candidate. Third party, third late
candidate. Put open
AI at a podium.
If there's a job that could maybe
be taken over by
a data source.
Yeah. I mean, the memory recall
would be impeccable from that AI.
They would absolutely floor the
other two. Yeah. And maybe
polling would just be finally accurate.
Right.
Who knows?
Who knows?
You got to pick up the phone first.
Yeah.
This combined with the Supreme Court having people who are pro-authoritarian overthrow
or willing to back the big lie on like on a personal level and then this
level of the how like people in the house it just feels like i don't know like things can always be
way worse and it feels like a second trump presidency would find ingenious new ways to
just be so much worse and like violate people's human rights i i can't believe this is
the time of this is when i became an american citizen okay right it is true i guess i like
joining things as they end whenever i join things they end yeah they're like oh the movie's ending
now i just got here well maybe there's a post-credits scene i can catch maybe that might
be worth it yeah exactly by the way that nurse is stealing my Scrabble Tiles, Miles.
Okay.
I wish you hadn't used that as your example.
All right.
Because that's denying what.
A little too early in the day for you to start saying this kind of stuff, Jack.
It's usually later in the day when the sun goes down.
I know it.
I know she's stealing it.
Hot tip, don't eat the tuna today.
Yeah.
You know what I mean.
No, I don't.
They're putting our meds in.
Are you sure?
That's why I smell like that.
Okay.
I don't, never even said anything about an odor at all.
You were gonna though.
You were gonna.
I could see you thinking.
Like, all right, well, I got to get back home.
All right,
let's take a quick break
and we'll come back
and talk about Elvis.
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And we're back.
And right now, Elvis' old home, Graceland, is the subject of a heated litigation. It was set to be foreclosed and sold at a public auction on Thursday because apparently, like according to news stories that we saw last week, the late Lisa Marie Presley allegedly owed $3.8 million in an unpaid loan. But then his granddaughter, the actress Riley Keough,
sued to block the foreclosure.
And now like the evidence
that's coming out,
people are like,
okay, like,
so let's look into this company
that claims they got this loan.
And like they,
they have like emails
that have like LLC
spelled with like three L's.
That's because it's a legit limited liability.
Lucky. I was going with lucky liability.
Even better. Yeah.
So the company that runs Graceland,
Elvis Presley Enterprises, EPE,
is claiming that the loan from a company called
Nausani Investments is fraudulent and that Lisa Marie Presley never borrowed money called Nausani Investments is fraudulent
and that Lisa Marie Presley
never borrowed money from Nausani Investments,
never gave a deed of trust to Nausani Investments.
And adding to the sketchiness of the loan,
the notary who's listed on the documents
said that she never met Lisa Marie Presley
nor notarized any documents for her.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
The trial's still happening now kurt nausony is like one of the nausonies that's associated with it and he's like
i don't know man like ask the attorneys uh he just keeps saying the attorneys can make a comment
exclamation point wow so like his punctuation is like a little unhinged off the bat right i love unhinged colons
and yeah yeah ellipses the attorneys can make comment exclamation point all right fine he's
like he said i left the firm in 2015 it should not be named in the filing it's like oh it's like
but it's named after you man it's named after named after my brother. Exactly. Oh, brother.
There's so many families involved in this,
and that's part of the problem.
That's part of the problem.
It's just like people passing stuff around
to people who never wanted anything to do with it
in the first place,
except for, of course, the beneficiary.
Right.
So they have no physical address beyond two P.O. boxes
and an
address that turned out to be a post office they're like oh you want our like real non-po box
yeah yeah okay okay exactly how much is it worth to you his email signature has an out-of-service
phone number the other employee has llc spelled with three L's and the email doesn't return.
They won't return emails.
Sounds like someone that used to be a talent agent in New York.
Like they took those skills of scamming new actors and applied it to this.
Yeah.
Like the agent in 30 Rock, I feel like I remember.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, like the agent in 30 Rock, I feel like I remember. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like this combines the two great obsessions of America. So the great obsession of America's past, Elvis, and the obsession of America's present and future is scams and just like everybody shamelessly trying to scam each other out of. And so you have the what appears to be, you know, allegedly appears to be like a illegitimate scam, like hastily thrown together of this like fake organization being like, oh, she promised us money.
So we get Graceland now.
Right.
And then there's the more legitimate scam of Elvis Presley Enterprises. So, first of all, there's like a dispute, like a familial dispute where
Keogh and Priscilla Presley
are like beefing over who is the sole trustee.
So it's like grandma versus granddaughter. But the county
registrar, first of all, reportedly has no record on file of a deed related
to Graceland. So it's just like good old-fashioned Southern bookkeeping.
It's written on a cocktail napkin somewhere.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
And then Graceland itself appears to be kind of a scam in and of itself.
Like they get tons of tax breaks from the city.
Oh, wow.
They aggressively fought for more purely to fund an expansion that would add a hotel airplane
hanger because you you always need one of those and a factory where locals would assemble elvis
merchandise such as chia pets oh my god we need these tax incentives so we can build a fucking
factory for an elvis chia pet factory is that what we need the plane for? To bring in
the playhead? Yeah, you're going to need that airplane.
Obviously, logistics too,
to distribute the merchandise also.
We're all in one business.
And so Elvis Presley Enterprises
threatened to relocate the entire
house to another city like
Nashville or even Asia
or the Middle East.
Another city like Nashville? Yeah. Nashville or even Asia or the Middle East. I vote for the Middle East.
Another city like Nashville?
Yeah.
The magic's gone, I think, at that point.
Nashville, the Middle East, anything.
We're open to anything.
The largest competitors to Memphis, Nashville or Asia.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's wild, like the threats they've even made when they're like,
oh, you don't think we're real? It's wild, like, the threats they've even made when they're like, oh, you don't think we're real?
It's a quote.
We've had substantial offers to take every piece of wood in panel and move it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Pop men will be working on this.
Right.
Pop men.
Have either of you ever been to Graceland?
To Graceland?
I have not.
No, I haven't.
I haven't either.
I'm waiting for them to complete the factory and the 6,200 seat arena that they're also asking for.
I'm just waiting for them to, I hear they might relocate to Toronto.
You know, that's also up there too.
So who knows?
It's like Nashville.
It's like Nashville.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
I mean, I feel like every time I've asked people who have gone, they're like, yeah.
I mean, if you really like it, if you really like Elvis, sure.
If not, nah. Right. Yeah. Right. No one's like, oh, my God, man, I felt like I was at the Taj Mahal or some shit.
Right. I learned stuff I didn't know about one of the greatest American artists.
Right. And they're like, wow, this is what his living room looked like. Cool. All right. Tour's over.
They're like, wow, this is what his living room looked like.
Cool.
All right, tour's over.
Supposedly, you know, you can't go upstairs, right? Like the bedrooms and the, you know, alleged place of death is all curtained off.
You can't even go to the good parts.
Yeah, that's kind of the whole thing.
Did he die in a toilet?
Is that true?
Yeah.
Supposedly, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And you can't even see that?
That's what I'm saying. I know. That's like, that's where I'd start the tour. Yeah, yeah. Supposedly, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you can't even see that? That's what I'm saying.
I know.
That's like, that's where I'd start the tour.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
It begins and ends with this toilet is what I was saying.
That's how you structure the tour.
Yeah.
And also, it should be, like, next to it should be the public toilets.
So you could be like, oh, cool.
Yeah.
Or replicas.
Like, the entire bathroom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah, there's no urinals. It's like, got a sitting down and that's right you can die like elvis did here that's right that's right the dream
so who's gonna who's gonna so there is no deed there uh there is no deed there is no company
the thing the fake loan i think it feels like that's like they're going to get to the bottom of that one. But
the one that feels like they're going to get away with it is the Graceland,
basically getting taxpayer dollars for Graceland expansions. A lot of people are asking why a city
that regularly ranks among the nation's poorest is giving several hundred million dollars
in tax breaks to a long dead rock stars house museum where the cheapest ticket costs 41 dollars
yeah and the answer is because that's how america works that's how like almost every
like professional sport team like uh arena like that's how those get built it's yeah this is yeah and they have like
billionaire owners and right they're like yeah now we're gonna need you to pay for us or we're
gonna take your team from this giant market to oklahoma they should do that i mean just do that
trust me i don't the second that shit leaves tennessee i don't think people they're like
oh cool graceland is in orange california now right like somebody could just build a graceland
right there like rebuild it yeah yeah exactly like on this site stood graceland oh yeah but
but i mean you could art direct that tomorrow i mean that's just another thing like the way people
build things and how we built sets and everything. Like you could not tell.
You could do an exact replica in every one of these cities.
And, you know, everyone would fight over which one they think is real.
And then I have this question.
Obviously, like, you know, there's plenty of people out there who are like Elvis, Elvis.
But as the population grows.
Yeah, ages.
Yeah.
And it's not like the music.
The music is not exactly enduring it's been you know it has been riffed upon and covered and changed and influenced so as so many people
but that exact music i would say is not i don't hear like it's not part of the world yeah yeah
maybe it is in tenn. Maybe you go to Tennessee.
No, it's all diminishing returns.
I think that's why they're so all in.
Because it sounds like Graceland is the one thing that consistently makes money.
Because like in this Rolling Stone article, they talk about how like, you know, 10 years
ago, the estate was pulling in, quote, $60 million, like selling memorabilia.
That number fell by 30%.
Sales from memorabilia dropped.
Oh, so the estate overall was doing 60%
and then that fell by 30%.
Memorabilia dropped from nearly $4 million in 2017
to less than $1.5 million in 2020.
Yeah.
So that would be a good indicator
that you're right, Ophira,
that people are not.
And also, there's probably diminishing returns when you've
sold like three million of elvis's teeth and they're like wait a second how many teeth does
this fucking guy only one million limited edition one million left exactly yeah this in a guardian
poll in 2017 uh found that 30 of respondents aged 18 to 24 had never heard even one of Presley's
songs. Wow.
So, yeah. They gotta
go meta with Elvis somehow.
They gotta figure out a new way. I mean, they tried with Baz
Lerman being like, Elvis actually
was a civil rights
icon. Yeah.
Oh my god.
Don't ask how old Lisa Marie was
when they met.
Sure, you've heard this song, but have you heard a song like this?
Yeah.
Making all the ladies so horny.
Don't thrust your hips, Elvi.
I have to also really just think of the shape of the chia head that would allow the grass to grow in a way that would replicate replicate eldest hard one it's a hard it is because his hair was so like specifically and rigorously coiffed
like how would a chia pet work it would have that mold would have to be very 3d or you might have to
room is that part of a chia that you have to go in and groom it
yeah give it a haircut do you have to give a chia haircut that's great you know what please let me
know i mean because now like it's just wild because now we eat chia seeds i know you know
what i mean like such a chia chia used to be chia they're like i don't know man smear this
shit on a fucking terracotta skull and you you're like, it's a chia pet.
And now it's like, I only eat these yogurt smoothies with chia seeds in it.
It's also interesting to see the evolution of the chia seed, too.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
Right.
From a crappy Christmas present to an overnight oats explosion.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
It's like, now I pay $70 70 dollars at arowan for three chia seeds
yeah the uh elvis chia that i'm seeing like a label for i can't tell if this is real i don't
think it's real but it looks like shit i mean it's just it looks like a green jerry curl
oh yeah that's nothing that no uh-uh i don't think no one's i don't think anyone's actually made it and i think
but i mean i guess in a way they know their market because the only person who would buy
a fucking chia pet in 2024 would be someone who's like yeah elvis yes i'll put it next to my
whatever other fucking chia pets there were yeah yeah i don't even know a hedgehog
yeah right yeah i think like who wouldhog yeah right yeah i'm trying to think of like who would be
appropriate for that i'm guessing like bob ross i feel like has like chia that sounds right i think
there was a bob or that's funny it auto filled into bob ross chia pet but i don't think that's
actually a oh wait no john c reilly is uh donald trump oh sexual wow no you know what dude chia pet has a
whole that i thought i was i thought i was mistaken uh no oh boy here we go freedom of Freedom of choice. Chia Donald Trump. Wow.
Wow.
So Chia is like full right wing, like heartland.
Oh, but they also have ice spice.
Wow.
Look, you know what I mean?
Look, they're like, hey, if there's customers, we're not going to say no. You can get a Wednesday Adam.
Oh, they are really out here.
Willie Nelson.
Oh, yeah.
Nelson.
But how are you? They got Grogu and the bra Willie Nelson, but how are you going to get it?
They got Grogu?
Into braids.
Yeah, how do you do those braids?
I don't worry about it.
It's our wacky version of braids.
I don't think there are.
Grogu shoes.
That's interesting.
These are not even real.
That's Chia Pet on downhill.
Like, they even have Ghostface from Scream?
I know.
What is that?
Whose hair you've never seen once.
Wait, they're also selling a Christmas story,
the nightlight, like the leg lamp.
Talking Clapper with nightlight.
But that's not even a Chia thing.
Okay, there we are.
Bob Ross.
We've got Bob Ross in a blue shirt.
Bernie Sanders.
No, it's everybody.
I mean, it's a play to everybody.
Yeah.
Oh, Chucky?
Is that Chucky?
Yeah.
A hedgehog?
That's the one I was thinking.
Everybody should go check out out chia.com slash collections
uh let me let me get you that url it's www. but the it's like such a shitty such a shitty
website and i love that this was like what they were basing their pitch for, for the like factory,
the Elvis factory.
They're like,
yeah,
we could even like maybe make some Elvis Chia things.
Wow.
Oh,
the golden girls.
Who do you want?
Blanche,
Dorothy,
Rose,
or Sophia?
I mean,
why would you only have one?
That's a,
that's a really weird question.
It's the whole,
you get all every golden girl,
please.
Thank you.
But with Chia hair.
Well, Ophira, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitge, please. Thank you. But with Chia hair.
Well,
if you're a,
what a pleasure having you on the daily.
I guess.
Oh my goodness.
I'm glad I know what I want to cheat of you guys.
That's what I want.
Oh,
Oh,
Oh,
that's auto part.
Eisenberg.
Yeah.
When we reach that summit, it'll obviously be known across the land.
Yeah.
You can get it. It is daily. It's that you can get my chia. Well, it is Daily Zeitgeist Day, so.
Yeah, exactly.
Welcome to National.
And I'm going to be the first chia pet that has male pattern baldness represented in how the chia seeds grow on the head.
And I do ask for the chia pet when I get my haircut.
So it all works out.
Let me get the chia.
What the fuck is that man they're like it's
1999 that's all i know they're like i guess i can give you a perm and a color job if you need it to
look this curly and green yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you think this is an accident come on
ophira where can people find you follow you all that good stuff oh yeah as i like to say the best place to interact with me is on venmo
i'm at ophira uh that's the only place i was actually able to get at ophira so i always get
excited it's just my first name but no follow me on the socials i'm at ophira e and uh all my shows
are listed at my website as well at ophiraeisenberg.com. Listen to my podcast, Parenting is a Joke.
And can I say, if you're in Boston next week,
is that cool?
Yeah, please.
I'm in Boston next week.
I rarely get to go out to Boston.
Actually, it's North Shore.
It's Beverly, Massachusetts,
which is 15 minutes from city center.
And let me tell you.
Are you going to be in Beverly?
I'm going to be in Beverly.
You're going to be in Beverly, right?
I keep saying Boston, and all the people are like, it's not boston there's nothing i like more than not boston pride
it's not boston it's bevely it's bevely but that's on uh wednesday the 29th at a lovely theater called
off cabot and so yeah gonna be headlining doing some stand-up come on over amazing is there a
work of media that you've been enjoying is there you know what i a work of media that you've been enjoying? Is there? You know what?
A work of media I have been enjoying.
I guess I'm a little bit
late to this, maybe, but I
recently finished The Gentleman.
Oh, yeah.
Guy Ritchie.
The show.
I would, I mean,
I gobbled that up. I would have a hundred of those.
Yeah.
That is so my speed. It's got great dialogue, I mean, I gobbled that up. I would have a hundred of those. Yeah. That is, that is so my speed.
It's, it's got great dialogue, the characters, uh, it's action.
I mean, everything about it was delightful.
It felt like Guy Ritchie, like back doing the thing that he did well, which is like
interesting characters and all of that.
Like it, there was a bit of a fall off.
I feel like after snatch and he was struggling to find that. That was a bit of a fall-off, I feel like, after Snatch.
Right.
He was struggling to find that.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Loved it.
Miles, where can people find you?
What's the work of media you've been enjoying?
What?
Did you say God damn it?
What happened?
Enjoying.
Oh, I thought you said enjoying.
God damn it.
I just think people should pronounce the G's
at the end of words.
You're right.
Going God damn it. Yeah. Find the G's at the end of words. Go right. God damn it.
Yeah.
Find me at miles of gray,
wherever they have at symbols.
You can find Jack and I on the basketball podcast.
Miles and Jack got mad.
You can also find me talking 90 day fiance on four 20 day fiance with
Sophia Alexandra.
And a tweet I like is from at the Garrett.
Just quote.
There's always these CNBC or fucking Forbes dot com things written about what Gen Z or millennial workers are fucking doing now underneath your nose.
This latest one, I quote, tweeted this headline that said millennials are quiet vacationing rather than asking their boss for PTO.
There's a giant work around culture.
And,
uh,
the,
at the garage,
we did,
Hey,
shut the fuck up.
You know what?
Can I just say that when I was,
I was working at office for years to make ends meet.
And I was also starting to audition,
you know,
for commercials and whatever.
And I would,
I would be like,
I'm just going to go get a bagel. And i would like run across town and put on makeup and like wait in an audition room
and do an audition and and then like you know leave and get back and come back and licking
your fingers with like with like a different shirt on and totally made up and you know that was
that was like what was always like four hour bagel, huh?
I was like, sorry.
Yeah.
Sorry.
It's been happening for a while, just in different iterations.
Oh, yeah.
I remember like leaving for like job interviews or other things like at your job.
And I remember like just not being on top of my shit.
And I said dental appointment like twice in like three weeks.
Yeah.
Everything all right, man?
Yeah.
Why? Well, you just keep going to the dentist dude what the fuck man i got terrible fucking cavities man that's
fucked up to even ask back to the dentist again anyway anyway here's my two-week test here i go
oh i just hate going there oh god you know what i probably won't i probably won't even be back
later today.
It's going to be so messed up.
Amazing.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
John Phipps tweeted, there's nothing museums like more than having a big entrance that is clearly the entrance in which you absolutely cannot use to enter the museum anymore.
That's very funny.
I just had the experience of the
LA Natural History Museum.
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as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy?
I think they may
enjoy this track from an
artist named Chezeel
C-H-E-Z-I-L-E
and it's just kind of like a dreamy
indie rock track
just kind of, you know, it wasn't like intense or aggressive.
It just kind of felt, you know, dreamy.
Who knows?
The lyrics might be, well, like wicked.
It could be wicked, frigging violent or something.
But I don't think it is.
It's called Beanie.
B-E-A-N-I-E.
And this is by Shezeel.
So just some dreaminess.
Just to begin our warm down into the weekend.
Shezeel.
All right.
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