The Daily Zeitgeist - Mike & Zeits 4/27: The Little Mermaid, Popeye's, Zombie, Juan Carlos, Jerry Springer
Episode Date: April 27, 2023In this edition of Mike & Zeits, Jack and super producer Becca discuss the Little Mermaid character posters, the mistakes you're making while ordering at Popeye's, getting zombie'd, King Juan Carl...os' secret daughter, and the passing of national treasure Jerry Springer!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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hello the internet and welcome to this episode of mike and zeitz or raisin trends or junior men tdz
these are johnny davis short show titles as well as Good and Trendy, which we already did,
but short show titles comprised of
candies that are always sold
in rectangular boxes for some
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I am Jack, and I'm thrilled to be
joined by super producer Becca
Ramos! Hello, hello!
Hello, Becca!
I really hate to say
I told you so.
And yet,
Little Mermaid character posters
came out and
we got to see Flounder.
We got to see Scuttle.
We got to see Sebastian.
And
these do not look like
characters that I'm going to find adorable personally
or characters that i'll be able to read emotion on the face of because they are
realistic yeah especially flounder flounder is the worst flounder looks like shit um
yeah flounder looks like if the cartoon, adorable flounder,
like grew up to have a like serious drug problem,
I feel like just very skeletal and dead behind the eyes.
I doubt that that's a storyline that they've incorporated.
I don't think that he will have a serious drug problem.
I think it has more to do with the fact that fish are almost always dead behind the eyes.
Yeah, fish are absolutely terrifying to look at in reality.
I iconically hate underwater sea creature type things.
I have a deep fear of the bottom of the ocean slash the ocean in general.
I am terrified of drowning.
I really like when I go to the beach to just sit in the sand
and then take a little dip in the water.
A little dip.
That's about it.
And that's a single toe?
What are we talking?
A single toe.
Yeah.
You know, maybe I'll get out like enough to where I can stand
and I'll like do a dunk and then come back.
But yeah, I'm not really fucking with the ocean.
I went snorkeling recently and uh just to tell you a story that uh you probably won't like i went snorkeling
found myself like right above a coral reef a lot of fish there but as i swam the water got like
shallower and shallower to the point that it was like just
like inches away from me and i like didn't want to touch anything and it was this really terrifying
like experience where i just had to like try it was like being tom cruise in that scene in mission
impossible where you just have to like stay completely flat and then i was like trying to
swim with like my fingers just to like move
myself out of there um i made i made it with well only scraping myself a little bit and not
like knocking anything over or touching a fish but it was like a bad dream it was very a beautiful
very beautiful bad dream but the fish they were not giving me much emotion. I was looking. No, absolutely not. I did this to observe up close.
I was hopeful.
I was like, maybe I'm wrong about the Little Mermaid characters.
And the underwater sea creatures are going to be able to wow me with the riz.
And I've got to tell you.
They riz'd you.
They did not riz me.
They were just like, let's get out of here.
This guy is an idiot.
Let's see.
What else?
What else?
There's an article in Mashed.
Is this a thing?
I know Mashable.
I'm not really familiar with Mashed, but they let you know, they put together a list of
mistakes everyone makes while ordering Popeyes.
And there is something that I was able to take away from this that I didn't fully know.
I think I've had this thought process.
It's in between meals.
It's like 3 o'clock.
I've skipped lunch or something.
And look, they have fast food right there.
It's the perfect time to jump in there no wait hop in and
they're saying that's a bad idea you should actually fast food is meant to go fast and meant
to be busy and you should go when other people are eating at lunchtime or dinner rush because
you are going to get fresher food and in between times, it is going to be food that they've had sitting around for like 30 minutes.
Which I think that's staple for all fast food.
Yeah, I think that applies to all fast food.
Yeah, and I think it's a great little detail that I hadn't really thought about.
But the other things they're saying,
you shouldn't order only the chicken sandwich.
Which I do only order the chicken sandwich is so good like it's so good um rice and beans they're saying like you need to get the rice and beans and you need to plus them up which what does
that mean uh you gotta upgrade it uh according to this article um papa fans on tiktok have revealed
they love to add a packet of the
complimentary honey and hot sauce
to give it some zing, which does sound
good. Worth trying. I don't know
if I would say not doing that is a mistake
necessarily,
but there's also the Cajun
Sparkle, which you can
sprinkle onto your food to add some
spice that is one of
Popeye's proprietary.
It is garlic powder, onion powder, red and black pepper, and that's it.
That's all.
They're saying don't order the Cajun rice and also don't order your chicken to be spicy,
which is interesting.
Are you a fan?
Well, because the spicy chicken sandwich, like that's what it is.
Yeah.
Isn't it?
Isn't it spicy?
So there is a spicy version, but the spice comes from the mayo. Like, that's what it is. Yeah. Isn't it? Isn't it spicy? So there is a spicy version,
but the spice comes from the mayo.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
Then, yeah,
I guess I haven't had
spicy chicken at Popeye's.
I've had the spicy chicken sandwich,
which slaps.
And I'm going to get it every time.
The one time I didn't get it
was when Megan Thee Stallion
did a partnership with Popeye's
and she had her sauce.
And I was like, anything Megan Thee Stallion does, I'm going to be there.
So I had the sauce.
It was good.
But at least in my local Popeyes, the nuggets sucked.
They sucked.
Yes.
So their explanation for spicy is spicy doesn't sell as well as mild.
So it's similar to the going during non-rush times.
They're saying spicy doesn't sell as well as mild, so it just sits there for longer than 30 minutes. And anything outside of 30 minutes, it's just not going to be
as good. So these are tips from people who work at Papa's. Thank you for your service, people who
work at Papa's. Thank you for your service. All right. Are you familiar with what being zombied by a date is? Okay. I have heard this. And I think the understanding is that after you've been
ghosted, they come back periodically later to be like, hey, what's up?
Just give zero effort. So let's find out together, Becca.
This is from the Daily Mail, who I go to for all my relationship advice.
They say, if you thought that getting ghosted
was one of the worst parts of modern dating,
it might be time to think again.
According to singer-songwriter Mariel Darling,
another person who I was checking with,
being zombied is infinitely more frustrating.
The New York-based musician from Massachusetts
went viral
on tiktok when she opened up about her experience in the online dating world uh it seems like a lot
of the news these days is just like here's something i found on tiktok or here's something
i found in a reddit thread uh where ghosting simply involves cutting all contact with the
person you were dating without any explanation.
Getting zombied means your former flame comes back from the dead to initiate a conversation out of the blue.
Yeah, I guess I understand the concept. But in my own personal dating history would never happen because I'm a very as a fire sign as an Aries.
I'm like, you're fucking done.
Like, if we're done, fuck.
You're never going to hear from me again.
Like, I, you know, so even if they did come back,
I wouldn't give them the opportunity to come back three times.
Like, someone, like, in this article was like,
yeah, this guy zombied me three times.
It's like, why did you give them two more opportunities
to come back, bother you, ghost you,
and then zombie you again?
I just, like, personally can't handle that type of...
When a guy at the end of your situationship,
whatever, is ending,
and they're like,
but I want to be friends.
I'm like, block.
I'm not fucking...
We're not friends.
Definitive, decisive.
We did not come into this as friends.
We're not leaving it as friends.
Sorry.
So in theory i understand
the concept and practice ladies block if they ghosted you block but i've also only been ghosted
like properly ghosted like one time and you immediately blocked them so you don't know if
they zombied you yeah i guess so and i think i've been zombied only one time, but I ghosted them. So it was kind of weird.
Yeah.
I hate getting Dracula-ed
when they just show up at your bedroom window
and you're like,
how are they standing there?
I'm on the fourth floor of this apartment building.
That's the worst.
Am I right?
That's getting twilighted, actually, specifically.
Oh, is that a scene from Twilight? Yeah, there's edward comes to bella's window and she's like how long have you been standing there and he's like a while
you're so tall um and she's like how often do you do this he's like almost every night to different people like what wait is that when she says how
often do you do this like does she mean like do you do this to all the girls or you come to my
window every night every night watch her sleep every night fuck out of here she'll wake up
sometimes she'll be like i feel his energy and then he'll be like he'll like hide yeah she didn't see him yeah yeah that is
cool women love when you tell them that you watch them when they sleep all right let's take a quick
break we'll come back we'll talk about a wild story out of spain with their king and our king
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And we're back.
And Spain's former king,
King Juan Carlos,
apparently had a secret daughter
whom he tried to keep from falling in love with his son when the two didn't know they were related.
This is from a new book.
The daughter named Alejandra was born into an aristocratic family in the late 70s, early 80s, and her existence was an open secret among the the king and other like powerful people but most
people didn't know it and so they were friends and they had to like keep them actively like keep
them from dating one another which is gross oh it's like a rom-com but like in the worst way
yeah i mean, yeah.
I'm trying to think of what genre this is reminding me of,
because it's not a rom-com.
Yeah, it's not like what you would want to happen in a rom-com,
but it does have the storyline of a rom-com for some reason.
Although there was, I think there was an 80s,
I just remember the cover of this VHS from from the days of like blockbuster video there was
a movie called cousins and it was like a steamy romance movie with like ted danson like the cover
of it was like ted danson and the lead actress like on a motorcycle together and i'm pretty sure
it was just like they find out they're cousins but like they still have just a bunch of sex um do you think
like genetics are failing us in those moments because isn't it like that we're supposed to be
as humans genetically engineered to be repulsed by inbreeding you know like like the scent of
your family is not supposed to like right evoke you know yeah yeah endorphins in a sense right yeah there was so there's one thing
that we feeling us there's one thing we like talked about in um that i remember like doing
some research on a cracked article that was like when you are kissing someone there is a theory
that like that evolutionarily became a thing because you're essentially like taste testing
their immune system to see how different it is from yours and pheromones that's the word i was
looking for yeah yeah like pheromones are a lot of people like scientists are like there's no real
scientific evidence that pheromones in humans actually exist but the um the kissing thing
always like made sense to me because first of all it's like weird that kissing exists
like just if you take a step back and you're like why why are they doing that with their mouths uh
and then also there's that thing that people say independently presumably of this information where
they like kiss someone and
they're like oh it's like kissing my brother or something yeah it's so i've always thought
that's interesting i don't know how scientifically real it is and there are like i remember like
there's a european philosopher who was like the incest taboo is actually like completely you know created for social purposes
to avoid um i think that person just like probably had a thing once like a sibling yeah um because i
think scientifically maybe not the attraction part of it but it is scientifically proven that
like inbreeding is bad yeah inbreeding with yeah with uh close
relatives not good yeah not good yeah and jerry springer rip to a real one i don't know you are
much younger than i am becca what what is your awareness of jerry springer i mean i go to the
jerry springer show i think i was i was up that time where it was funny.
You know, probably traumatic looking back at now some of those families were on it.
But I do remember the Jerry Springer show.
Yeah, I guess.
So I assumed it just stopped being a thing soon after I was no longer in high school. But it was on until like 2021.
Yeah, it was on forever. Yeah, it was on for three decades. Yeah. It was on forever.
Yeah.
It was on for three decades,
lived a wildlife.
Like I always knew there was the backstory that he was the mayor of
Cincinnati at one point.
Yeah.
But this is one of those obits where you're like,
damn,
that that's a life.
So he was the son of Jewish Holocaust survivors who escaped Germany and
ended up in England where Springer was born. Holocaust survivors who escaped Germany and ended up in England
where Springer was born.
So his parents escaped Germany, ended up in England, and he was born in a London tube
station while it was being used as a bomb shelter during World War II.
Wow.
His political career began by working as a campaign advisor to Bobby Kennedy, and his
success with reaching young voters caught the
attention of the DNC, who tapped him to run for Congress in 1970. He lost that, but was quickly
elected to Cincinnati City Council and became a very popular, outspoken lefty leader at the age
of 27, I think he was at that time. Proposed a ban on drafting of Cincinnati residents for the Vietnam war, then resigned from city council in 1974 when he was caught in a vice
investigation because he paid a sex worker by check,
which is,
they're just like this,
you man,
this is your signature on a,
and,
but then he just like ran again.
So he lost that job,
but then like ran again and like made fun of himself and like did a fake ad for credit cards.
Was like, this is actually how you should pay for sex workers.
And then, yeah, he became like a media personality who did these.
I guess that thing.
I don't know if he still did this by the time you were watching but like did he do a like direct to camera address
where he would like tell you a life lesson at the end of the jerry springer show so yeah that that
always seemed weird to me it was like okay after we just show these people like beating up their
cousin or whatever uh on stage i'm going to then then give you a very wholesome
op-ed about how we should all
treat each other well.
Apparently, that's what his original
thing was. He gave these
kind of
direct-to-camera
local news broadcast things.
And then
from that, launched
a TV show that was just like very moral and responsible
and dull and then he hired a producer who had worked for like the weekly world news and
the producer was like look man do you want to like have a career okay so here's how we're
gonna change things also hosted the strangest dating show in history baggage in which
contestants show up with literal bags of like weird things from their
past.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So he passed away.
Yeah.
I watched a bit of the episode and it was really bad,
but you know,
probably chock full of the sort of things that
we watched jerry springer for but yeah he passed away peacefully at the age of 79 89 i think it
was 79 79 full life uh so shout out to jerry springer all right i think that's gonna do it
for us this afternoon we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Becca, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
You can find me and follow me at Bex, B-E-C-C-S, Ramos on all platforms.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Back tomorrow.
Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.
And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadson.
We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert
Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,
then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio
app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed.
Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
and Shekinah Church.
Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball.
And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.