The Daily Zeitgeist - Miller Zeit 12/19: Tulsi Gabbard, Democratic Debate, Kim Kardashian, James Wiseman, Tenet
Episode Date: December 19, 2019On this episode of Miller Zeit Jack is joined by Anna Hossnieh and Caitlin Durante to discuss Tulsi Gabbard voting "present", the Dem Debate happening tonight at LMU, Kim K photoshopped North into the...ir family Holiday pictures, James Wiseman drafting fiasco, and the new Christopher Nolan film 'Tenet'. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Is that right?
I'm Jack O'Brien.
That's your producer, Ana Hosnier.
And that is Caitlin Durante.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
What's up?
You're talking as if you're pointing at us.
Sorry.
Miller Zeit, the champagne of the podcast.
No, that's Miller High Life.
That's Miller High Zeit.
High Zeit, yeah.
Yeah.
High Zeit. How are you guys? I'm good. That's Miller Heiseif. Heiseif, yeah. Heiseif.
How are you guys?
I'm good.
I feel like shit. How are you?
You don't.
You're not good.
I know.
I'm coughing.
Sorry to hear that.
Let's just cancel tomorrow.
Wow, Jack.
Great idea.
What?
Huh?
No way, man.
Never a day off.
Yeah, now we know.
I said that like it was a piece of folksy wisdom and it's just torture yeah me being mean bad boss bad person uh let's talk about tulsi gabbert actual disney
villain uh she voted present during trump's impeachment and she can go
fuck herself any thoughts
yeah AOC
specifically called her out
she's an operative she's a plant
from the Republican Party
she's just
like a fern or like a shrub
exactly she is a fucking shrub
ooh
shit let's have that Like a shrub? Yeah, exactly. She is a fucking shrub. Ooh, shit.
Let's have that.
Let's introduce that into the zeitgeist.
Yeah.
Shrubby Gabbard.
I really, I don't know.
If you've ever listened to my podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous,
I really, really dislike Tulsi Gabbard
because she, for someone who,
oh God, I fear to say any further from my mentions oh yeah people got mad at me from the Tulsi heads they're they're out here or maybe they're
Russian bots yeah maybe but I also um I've for someone who continuously talks about how we need to deal with foreign relations in the middle east um
she also believes that they're all kind of like terrorists and that i i just i really struggle
with her politics because she presents herself one way but then is technically a war hawk yeah
weird war hawk she is she wants to destroy like doesn't she have
really problematic views about like lgbtq stuff too yeah and her whole thing with bashar al-assad
it's like she goes back and forth on that being like i never said i support him and then goes
like well you need a strong leader like this and it's like you can't keep doing this. You should never, ever try and uphold a person like that in any sense.
I haven't studied her specific positions, so don't at me.
But I do think she is probably sent here by Satan and very evil.
You can hear about them on Worst Year Ever, which is a show on this very network.
They did do the research
and she's bad.
Let's talk about
I guess there's a Democratic debate
tonight in Los
Angeles.
I'm going to skip Star Wars
to see it.
I know.
I know you better than that.
It's at Loyola Marymount University, which is right by the airport.
They're really trying to fuck up traffic for everybody.
Oh, yeah, that's going to ruin everything for people traveling for the holidays.
What a bad choice.
So LA traffic, nothing else matters.
Am I right?
Yeah, so tonight it's gonna be
You got your Andrew Yang
You got your Bernie Sanders
You got your
Who else?
You got your Amy Klobuchar
Alright so it's Buttigieg
It's Warren, it's Biden
Sanders, Klobuchar, Tom Steyer
Why the fuck is Tom Steyer there?
Who? Who?
Yeah, I don't know.
Who?
Hey.
And even Bloomberg's not even going to be there.
I mean, it's not a party without some Bloomberg.
Without a rich white guy.
Yeah.
I guess Steyer's the only billionaire.
Hmm.
So that's seven.
It'll be the smallest number, which
I think is good. Alright, that's
manageable. Yeah, that seems manageable.
I hope people
take dead aim at Pete Buttigieg
and
you know, take him down
a notch. I want everyone
to watch the movie, or not the movie, the TV
show The Politician and remember
that is who pete
budaj is right budaj i never budaj egg jeg okay also that thread where his like childhood friend
is or i don't know childhood acquaintance is roasting him to death oh no i haven't seen that
what do they say about someone who grew up with pete budaj who who hates him just hates him goes
like he was a fucking asshole his whole life
like he was always a dick he's been trying to become president since like eight years old
he told my mom at like eight that she needs like a better resume or something like that like really
like weird shit and then that he's basically everything he's done is work towards being the
president like every step is calculated and i think the show politician
on netflix nails that really well uh and it's like a ryan murphy joint so you'd super stylize
singing and it's not a ton of singing there is something because ben platt is the lead so of
course he's gonna have to sing it's a musical musical, like The People vs. O.J. Simpson. Yeah, exactly.
But it's just very stylized.
It's well done.
Gwyneth Paltrow's in it, which is whatever.
Ben Platt is Evan Hansen.
Dear Evan Hansen?
Dear Evan Hansen.
I don't know any of these people.
He's the male lead in Pitch Perfect.
No, he's not.
He's not the male lead in Pitch Perfect.
Let me just Google it.
Oh, you're trying to make me lie to caitlin what what what is your game here what is the what's the bit here
this has all been a front to try to convince caitlin that ben platt is the male lead in
perfect and it worked because i am convinced i'm in wait what he's not? No, he's the nerdy sidekick.
Ah, shit.
He's like, I'm a great singer, but girls don't like me.
Who's the male lead?
Sean Astin.
Aston.
Sean Astin of Rudy and Lord of the Rings fame?
Maybe that's not his name.
Sean something.
This is a fucking mess.
You're right.
It's not Sean Astin.
This episode, what the fuck is happening sean astin is the male really let's actually that's a great myth no it's skylar astin
whatever skylar okay whatever whatever they're all the same movie but skylar astin sean astin
hard to tell the difference between the two. Oh, okay. Yes, I do
recognize him from this movie.
It's the Hobbit. Yeah, that's who it is.
The Hobbit is the male lead.
You're right. I'm wrong.
Skylar.
All right.
The politician. That's what we were talking about.
I'm just saying that's who Pete Buttigieg is.
I gotta watch it.
I was just kidding. It's Buttigieg.
Not Buttigieg. I think it's Buttigiepeg. Buttigieg. I gotta watch it. Watch it. I was just kidding. It's Buttigieg, not Buttigieg.
I think it's Buttigiepeg.
Buttigiepeg.
Some people call it GIF.
Some people call it a GIF.
If he changed his name to Buttigiepeg just to be like, he's like, hey, it's all about
working towards the presidency.
Hey, what's up, gang?
Finger gun, finger gun, finger gun.
I'm 100% that JPEG.
Oh, my God.
That was the worst thing I've ever seen, I think, possibly, is up there.
He's a bad.
I don't like him.
He's a bad.
He's just a bad.
Agreed.
Kim Kardashian photoshopped Northwest into the family Christmas card because she was,
quote, having a day, so she refused to be in the shoot
that's wait so i've had this experience where your your kids are not cooperating for the pictures
they're having a little they're having a little bit of a day and you just you just take some time
you don't you don don't Photoshop them in.
Wow, that's a great Photoshop job, though. Do they do a really good Photoshop job?
I guess maybe you do.
I would have never known.
I mean, they can afford the best Photoshoppers in all the land.
I mean, but I also say don't have that many kids if you can't get them all in the photo.
Wait, which one is Photoshopped in?
That's my class.
North, this one, the older one.
Oh, okay.
The oldest one, if you will.
That's just an amazing move that they were like,
fuck it, we'll take the pictures and Photoshop her in.
Wait, how many children?
Whoa, okay, sorry.
Four kids.
Four children.
Too many.
And also-
Too many for a holiday card?
I do not know what rock i've been living
under but i had no idea that their kids were named northwest and then what were what are the
other ones west okay so it's not all like cardinal directions no that should be north south east and
west west missed opportunity East West would be.
Wait, what are their names?
North, Saint.
And the other two?
Psalm and Chicago?
Wait.
Chicago, yeah, that's right.
Did I make that up?
Nope, you got them both.
This feels like an SNL sketch.
This is really a mess, you guys.
What's happening?
Okay, so they photoshopped.
Okay. mess you guys what's happening okay so they photoshopped okay it's there is something uncanny valley about this photo i can tell it's not quite right yeah but um i don't know
what yeah she's not in the same lighting you can tell yeah i wouldn't have been able to tell. Well, I have a trained eye for this.
Right.
So I can tell.
Fortunately, I am on their mailing list for holiday cards,
and I noticed right away.
Congratulations.
Yeah, actually, I have no problem with this.
I don't know.
I was trying to come up with a take where I was like,
no, it's not right.
Can't Photoshop kids into pictures.
I don't give a shit. I mean, yeah, if you've got the resources, why not? Yeah, if you've got the resources, it's not right. Can't Photoshop kids into picture. I don't give a shit.
I mean, yeah, if you've got the resources, why not?
Yeah, if you've got the resources, you have the Photoshop team.
In fact, never spend time together as a family.
Only take separate individual photos.
Yes.
Mash them up together and post.
That is the take.
This is the take.
That is the official position of the Daily Zeitgeist.
Never see your family.
Only Photoshop yourself into pictures with
them yes uh and that just show them love via photoshopped pictures of the two of you that is
how you raise a child that's what real love is james wiseman or weisman uh i think it's Wiseman, who is the consensus number one pick in the NBA draft this upcoming year.
We were just deprived of the rest of his season by the NCAA because the NCAA fucking sucks.
They're the worst.
But yeah, they love, it's a bunch of old white guys who love to, you know, disqualify young people of color.
Why was he disqualified?
Who, you know, some academic bureaucratic law bullshit.
They just, like, there's so many rules.
It's impossible.
It's fucking so impossible to, like like keep up with all the rules and they are very punitive they love to get somebody in trouble
let's talk about the real thing uh the real thing what the fuck does that mean?
Let's talk about the thing that I'm most excited about right now.
That's Tenet.
George Tenet, former CIA director. No, Tenet, T-E-N-E-T, new Christopher Nolan movie.
And it's about time travel or time waves,
time moving forward and backward in weird patterns.
I personally believe this is,
they are presenting Denzel Washington's son,
John David Washington, as the new Denzel Washington.
Yeah, or he's just a new actor.
Yeah, they're like, now he's taking over because his
father is is retiring yeah well no he's not retiring but i don't know i think like john
david washington's such a good actor that it's like now presenting in a christopher nolan movie
the son of denzel washington john david washington he's the new top dog i love him i just
love him i'm excited i don't really care about christopher nolan but i love john david washington
you know excited for his i don't know this feels inception-y this one and i haven't seen the
trailer yet but i don't know if you know this about me but uh time travel movies is my favorite subgenre. Is it? Yes. I am obsessed. I love
time travel or
any sort of manipulation of
time as a
narrative premise.
Also, I like that Robert
Pattinson is like
people are taking him seriously.
Yeah, he's great. Good time.
We all saw The Lighthouse.
We all saw The Lighthouse. We all saw The Lighthouse.
We all dressed up as his character for Halloween from The Lighthouse, and we love him.
Or was that just me?
That Robert Pattinson's lighthouse keeper from The Lighthouse is the new Paddington. From Paddington 2.
No.
Why would you say that?
Okay, I'm sorry.
You're so wrong about that.
It was just a take I was trying to put out there.
I knew it would be controversial.
Do you realize Caitlin's in the room?
I'm sorry.
I can't believe it.
I'm so sorry, Caitlin.
I apologize for everyone.
Thank you.
That was really inappropriate.
Yeah, I'm excited to watch this.
I tend to like Christopheropher nolan's films
even though he doesn't have a good track record in terms of you know representing women women
he loves fridging them women are obstacles yes uh but um i think you know i feel like this will be good. Christopher Nolan's women characters.
Not the most well-written.
Perhaps not.
Not the most thoroughly imagined.
Remember that dumb one from fucking Inception
who couldn't figure out if she was in a dream?
That was everybody in Inception.
That was a joke.
Come on! I love Marion Cotillard. that was everybody in Inception that was a joke come on
I love Marion Cotillard
I thought she was
a silly character in that
I literally just made that bit
and you insulted me
remember when she was like
we're in a dream
and he was like babe we're not in a dream
remember how that movie was like
a bunch of Californians like babe we're not in a dream. Duh. Remember how that movie was like a bunch of Californians?
Like, babe, we're not in a dream.
We got to take the 101.
Oh, God.
What is happening?
Did you know when you watch a trailer on mute, you have no idea what the movie's about?
Yeah.
Yes, thank you.
Because I'm trying to figure it out.
I've never noticed how that happens.
And I truly can't.
Is that happening to you right now?
Yes.
It's just, I think it's just like another one of those things where he's going to be
like, it's a metaphor for filmmaking.
Remember when he did that with Inception?
Oh, is that?
Yeah.
That is what's cool about time travel and time manipulation movies
is that's a thing that film makes possible.
So I think that's a great choice for a favorite subgenre.
Metaphors for filmmaking?
I mean, I think the, I mean, we all,
Happy Death Day, Happy Death Day to You,
Live, Die, Repeat, a.k.a. Edge of Tomorrow.
These are all, I love a good, you know,
day repeat thing.
Like a good Groundhog's Day.
Good Groundhog's Day.
What was the Natasha Lyonne show?
Oh, Russian Dolls.
Russian Dolls.
And then, yeah, just time traveling.
Is it Russian Doll?
And I called it Russian Dolls.
It's Russian Dolls.
I mean, it's okay, Jack.
Stop being so hard on yourself.
Brad Pitt, Brad Pitts.
I am turning into a person.
I think yesterday was his birthday, Brad Pitts.
Brad Pitts?
No kidding. Happy birthday, Mr. his birthday Brad Pitts Brad Pitts? No kidding
Happy birthday Mr. Pitts
Brad Pitts' birthday
Alright well that's going to do it for
this episode of the trending
Miller's Night
We'll be back
tomorrow with another
episode of the Daily Night Guys
and one more trending episode
Then we're out of here
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Bye.
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that's guaranteed
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Check out our recent episode
with Latin Grammy winner,
author,
and TV personality,
Chiquis,
about raising her younger siblings
after the death of her mother,
singer Jenny Rivera.
I would do it over and over again.
All of that has molded me
to become the woman that I am today.
Like, I wouldn't change anything.
Listen to The Bright Side
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Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years.
I have a proposal for you.
Come up here and document my project.
All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
What was that?
That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself?
There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
They're just dreams.
Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm.
Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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