The Daily Zeitgeist - More Like Concentration Spas, AirPod Sex = A Thing 6.20.19
Episode Date: June 20, 2019In episode 417, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian JC Coccoli to discuss Trump starting his 2020 campaign, the Trump administrations thoughts on reparations, the comparison of concentration camps t...o migrant detention centers, music's influence on sexual behavior, Russia remaking the Chernobyl story to blame the US, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Inside Trump’s 2020 Campaign Launch in Orlando, It’s Still 20162. More MCCONNELL on reparations: "We've tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation. We've elected an African American president."3. WATCH: Ta-Nehisi Coates Takes Down Mitch McConnell on Reparations in House Testimony4. Ocasio-Cortez Calls Migrant Detention Centers ‘Concentration Camps,’ Eliciting Backlash5. The Crimes Against Humanity Are in Progress6. An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border7. Predicting Even More Horrifying Conditions, Historical Journalist Describes Parallels Between Trump Migrant Detention and Concentration Camps8. Music's Behavior On Sexual Behavior9. Russian TV to air its own patriotic retelling of Chernobyl story10. Russia to make its own show about Chernobyl that implicates the US11. WATCH: Madison McFerrin - Insane Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated.
Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks.
She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring
in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations
as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk
Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
People are talking about women's basketball
just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball.
And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever
you get your podcasts.
The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Every great player needs a foil.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 87, Episode 4 of
Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared conscience.
Say officially off the top, Buck Coke Industries and Buck Box News.
It's Thursday, June 20th, 2019.
My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Tick Jack Ho.
And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Come here, cheese boy, boy, call me Jack it up.
Come here, cheese boy, boy, is you bringing up.
Take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it.
Love me cheddar.
Tonight I'm gonna let you be the Gouda.
Tonight I'm gonna let you Asiago. Tonight I'm going to let you be the Gouda. Tonight I'm going to let you Asiago.
Tonight I'm going to let you be the Feta.
Parmesan, parmesan, parmesan.
Okay.
That is from AtSolt.
It's handed to the tune of Rude Boy from Rihanna.
You are the cheese boy?
Yeah, because I was talking about how much I love cheese.
I'm lactose proof.
Yeah, that's true.
So yeah, just a love song to cheeses.
And there was possibly a cheese-related crime
we were discussing in the office
that I won't get into.
That was off hours.
That was after hours cheese crime.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by the hilarious and talented J.C. Coakley.
Oh, hello, everyone.
Hi.
What's up?
You guys are super funny, talented.
What?
Did you practice, Miles?
No.
You lie and sack us.
You're right.
That's what I was doing in the bathroom.
In front of a mirror.
Not doing panicked dairy poops.
I'm surprised you didn't actually bring out the dance moves.
Did you just kind of get nervous?
It's just, you know, Until we start videoing this,
I have to conserve my energy.
I feel you.
JC, it feels like you're a returning
guest, but this is your first time on the
Daily Zeitgeist. I'm telling you what, it feels
organic. It feels local in here.
Yeah, it does. Definitely.
It feels local.
Locally sourced podcasting.
And yeah, you know, we share a lot of memories, it turns out.
I know.
Mutual friends, yeah.
It turns out you've got an amazing mind for faces.
I do.
I care about the human face, and we're being taken over by bots.
And Miles and I have a history, and we just went through and remembered.
And it's great, because that kind of stuff, even if we're on mushrooms...
The best is, I met you six years ago, and you go, yeah, I think you were really quiet. And I go, I was high on stuff, even if we're on mushrooms. The best is go, I met you six years ago. You go, yeah, I think you were really quiet.
And I go, I was high on mushrooms.
Yeah, I was on mushrooms.
Yep.
And I also weirded out Colin Hanks that night.
Yeah.
You can't weird out Colin.
I think I've heard about that.
I did.
I was wearing a blanket and he's like, oh, are you cold?
And I was just high on mushrooms.
You're like, are you Tom Suggs?
No, and I just went, nah, call me the shroom god.
And then.
I feel like you introduced yourself as the shroom god.
I think I did.
That's great.
Anyway, 2013 was a wild time.
Now I'm slightly less impressed by your memory
because if he was walking around in a blanket
calling himself the shroom god,
I probably would have remembered him as well.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know.
Sam Fran has a lot of those due to the homeless population,
to be honest with you, if you want to dive in.
Yes.
We will get into that in a moment. Maybe not, but we're going to get to know you a little
bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're
talking about today. We're going to talk about Trump kicking off his 2020 re-election in a really
boring way. We're going to talk about what Mitch McConnell had to say about reparations.
We're going to talk about the
definition of concentration camps
because that is where we're at in 2019.
Splitting hairs over the
definition of a concentration camp. What's the difference?
When you have to preserve
your morality
or sense of fake morality.
In a related
story, we will talk about the fact that ICE has stopped reporting deaths
that happen in ICE custody.
We're going to talk about Mitch McConnell's wife.
It's all full circle today because she is the new Scott Pruitt.
We're going to talk about how 17% of you...
Oh, don't give it away.
Don't?
Okay.
I think...
No, I'm dying.
17% of you...
Do something with your AirPods.
Yeah, do something with your AirPods.
No, that's too obvious.
All right.
17% of you...
Yeah.
17% of you.
Okay, never mind.
17% of you fuck with AirPods.
In.
For real.
In. Yeah. There you go. 17% of you fuck with AirPods In For real In
Yeah
There you go
So
And there's a bunch of
Sex music statistics
That we're gonna get into
And for fans of Chernobyl
There is a sequel of sorts coming out
A sort of
Bunimania
A Rashomon
Another
That's a pretty good impression of the
Bunimania Bunimania You're so good at the distance That you're doing it Yep I have to Yeah Sort of a Rashomon. That's a pretty good impression of the edge. When you mind me, when you mind me.
You're so good at the distance that you do it.
Yep, I have to.
Because I finally watched it, finally caught up, and I get the hype.
And we're going to get a new look at the events that happened that night
from a different angle in an upcoming series.
But first, JC, what is something from your search history that's revealing about
who you are? Okay. Well, graphite. I've spent a lot of time Googling graphite to find out what it
is, what it do. And it was fascinating because then I went into a rock hole and I learned more
about other elements that we are sitting on,
and then I went into a fracking hole.
Oh, wow.
And then I connected it with a Me Too joke,
and I was able to write something smart about it.
Oh, there you go.
Fantastic.
Yeah, you're a stand-up comedian.
What did you learn about graphite?
Were you just learning because you're watching Chernobyl,
you're like, Google, what's graphite?
Google, what's, well, DuckDuckGo.
Yeah.
I don't want to be traced.
Oh, gotcha.
DuckDuckGo is pretty cool.
And I've spent a numerous amount of time trying to figure out a VIN number for my computer.
It's a VPN number.
I've been kind of learning a little bit more about my surroundings.
And that's my last DuckDuckGo is graphite because I wanted...
Not that it's around me all the time.
Yeah, it's the last thing.
Oh, no.
I just was like, why don't I start from this most extreme and learn about all of them?
Because it was very intimidating.
Because I work in climate, I'm learning a lot more about what's in a coal mine and how it operates and what Koch Brothers plant does to the water in Pennsylvania.
And I'm from there, and I'd like to know air quality.
So this show, like I said, was, it's an environmental phenomenon.
It's a huge catastrophe and it is a foreshadowing.
It's very smart to kind of dive in.
So at night I'll just like snuggle up and like look up elements lately.
Hey.
Hey, who's into that kinky element life?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you're from Pittsburgh.
Is that right?
Pittsburgh.
Born and raised.
Pittsburgh area.
Steel City.
Cold City Ghost Steelers.
Great town.
Haven't met a bad person from Pittsburgh yet.
Yeah.
They're a good breed.
Yeah.
I'm a fan.
What is something you think is underrated?
Underrated is all women having the ability to physically fight or protect themselves with a sport of choice.
Okay.
Okay.
Some kind of combat sport?
Some kind of combat sport.
It doesn't have to lead to a war activity.
It just needs to know that you own your space on this planet in this now.
And it's okay to kind of learn how to use your body in cool ways to protect yourself yeah
and the way you were moving uh as you were kind of saying that sentence made me think that you
have done a little bit of training and in the yeah you yeah you clenched your fist arts yeah
whoa you're shadowboxing the mic yeah i think you have a knuckle duster on yeah yeah i do it's
actually a coral reef oh nice her hands just turned into a blur.
Are you boxing?
Have you taken up a discipline recently?
Yeah, boxing.
Boxing, Krav Maga, Tim McGraw's friend.
Tim McGraw's, yeah.
Krav.
Kev McGraw.
His brother.
Kevin Hart.
Kevin Hart teaches me to defend myself.
I learned to box because it had come to me kind of organically working
with a bunch of surfers for hurley and i had one of their girlfriends or fiancés at the time is ufc
boxer who just kicked butt um ufc fighter and she was just skilled and i learned um the way to move
my body that way and i started doing it you become a bit addicted and then you're like
your whole day becomes training because not the whole day but you can go back every now and then
because it's just so powerful I mean I was working on an album at the time and I was like this is
giving me the fuel to feel really strong and now I I just know that you know if it comes to a scarier
situation I'm more equipped right um to not go for a gun more like physical
hand-to-hand combat right now you walk the streets like michael douglas and falling down
michael douglas like pull up i dare you please by the way i am begging you pittsburgh pennsylvania
michael douglas yeah hey that makes sense why he was in wonder boys that right wasn't he in Wonder Boys is a Michael Chabon book about a writer in who is a
create.
He's like failing to write his second big novel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's very like Pittsburgh centric.
So it's not the tenacious.
Do you wonder boy shot in Pittsburgh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shot in Pittsburgh.
Um,
man,
I just remember from the poster cause it's Michael Douglas like this.
Yeah, very writerly.
Yeah.
He has a scarf on.
Yes, he has a scarf on and one finger on the side of his head for people who can't see Miles.
The portion of our audience who can't see his name.
But look, just picture what a book jacket, like dust jacket photo of an author is in your book.
And it's that.
Has anybody had to catch these hands of yours?
Catch those hands?
Oh, not in real life.
Okay.
Not in real life.
But my boxing instructors are pretty great.
And I've been tapped a few times in the face.
And I'll tell you what, you don't know what you're doing until you get punched in your face.
You turn into a whole different person yeah because
it's a jolt to your brain yeah and like yes we've all had turbulence on an airplane before but like
when you're punt that when you're rocked yeah you really are like or you're out it really just
depends so it's this new feel uh and it helps my stage work too i i feel like i i know my space a
lot more and i know what I'm capable of.
If, you know how people just trip all the time? Yeah, yeah.
Like on stuff.
On shrooms.
Oh.
Always, Miles is always on shrooms.
Shroom God.
How is he even show up here?
Have you met my co-host, the Shroom God?
Every day you make it here?
I know.
It's amazing.
I'm micro dosing.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
By the way.
Just a lot all together.
I wrote a joke where I was like,
because Denver just cleared mushrooms.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's just like Denver didn't legalize cannabis.
Cannabis legalized Denver.
But it just I feel like I now know how and, you know, because men, men, boys are organically about they have that anxiousness and that desire to exert energy.
If you've watched socialized to be aggressive, too.
Yeah. Yeah.
And completely socialized.
Everything happens because of what the way they're guided.
And the girls here are a little bit more lighthearted.
But now it's turning and the tides are turning.
And I feel like, you know, suiting up is not a bad idea.
Yeah.
Not necessarily for war, but.
Right.
Just be ready.
Be ready to fight a shark.
Well, yeah, it's good to know, you know, yeah, to feel your own body.
And also I think most people have not had the experience of getting socked straight
in their face.
Yeah.
It's a sobering one.
My day doesn't start until I get socked square in my face.
From your kid?
From your kid.
Yeah, exactly.
I remember one day he came in here, his kids socked him up,
and he was just sort of like dazed.
Asked Nick, our producer who has kids, like,
your kids like get punchy?
Oh, yeah.
They ever deck you out?
I like when the parent like somberly asks like,
is your kid ever taking the car?
Is your kid obsessed with knives?
It's not normal.
Yeah.
No, I've had my nose bloodied.
Yeah.
My friend said the vomit made it into her mouth.
Like she was holding the baby and the vomit went in her mouth and she was like, I've never
felt more assaulted.
There you go.
Or like a parent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's when you have love because you don't dry.
You're like.
I'll swallow it.
Okay.
That happened.
Yeah.
Because that's my child and I love him or her.
No.
I love my child.
I love my beauty. That's why happened. Yeah. Because that's my child and I love him or her. No. I love my child. I love my beauty.
That's why I'm training in self-defense, actually.
He's hit me one too many times.
He's going to learn.
He's asking me if I have old hockey equipment lying around.
He's like, hey, you got like a helmet or shoulder pads like your brother?
I got to go home.
JC, what is something you think is overrated?
Overrated?
I think rich people are overrated.
Oh, boo.
Rich people are so cool.
We love rich people here.
We want to be rich.
Hear me out.
I feel like-
Hold on.
For any rich people listening, that's not my opinion.
I want to be like you guys.
Don't be triggered.
I think rich people are overrated.
And that comes-
And I get it.
And I get why money and everything.
I get that.
But I'm-
You don't have to explain this.
Yeah, I know.
But I want to – for somebody that is probably a listener that's like, I don't want to fight you even though I'm well-equipped to kill you.
But I think that it's overrated that we – and you know this.
But we are taking people's thought processes more to heart because of economic status.
And that's across the board.
Not just politicians, but artists and anyone.
It's just because you have made it in any way financially, and you might be a genius,
there's still that, I'm going to fight you in the street that I feel needs to happen.
Oh, wow.
So you've taken this to you're rich and I need your money.
So catch me outside.
I don't need your money.
Oh, OK.
I want to know if you're a good person.
So meet me one on one for a coffee without your team.
Like not it doesn't have to be a fight, but I just want people to be human for a second.
like not it doesn't have to be a fight but I just want people to be human for a second
and with this constant
array of like presentation
and politics and what we watch with the Meghan McCain thing
it's this fight this back and forth it's like listen
all that I just want
everyone to take like a bit of
ayahuasca maybe
zone out find your special
place yeah be visited by the
energy and be a human being for
30 seconds and people
will say, well, we've got so much to do. And it's like,
bro, it's going to be there no matter what. Right.
But I want to see you be 30 seconds a month.
I want to see you be a human being.
Yeah. I think... That's my
ideal concentration camp.
Is what? Getting a bunch of rich people together
and making them do drugs, trip out, and figure out if they're
human or not? Yes! So bohemian growth.
Right? That's actually not a bad idea what I just put in.
I think they do that, but I think they already have those things,
and they're at day spas, and they're just told whatever the fuck they want to hear back at them,
and they need somebody there to be their reality drill sergeant.
Yeah, I feel like this is no motherfucker.
We were talking about this earlier.
It's like, maybe we need a way for,
if you're rich
and you don't want to get
80% of your wealth taken,
come hang out with a bunch of people
from the almost opposite end
of the socioeconomic spectrum.
Right.
Hang out with them for a little bit.
And then...
No cameras.
Yeah, and then, exactly.
And then at the end,
those people decide
if they should have any of their money
or if they're just going to take it.
Best game show.
Actually, no, that doesn't work because I would just be like,
we're taking this full time.
It would make me really chill.
And also, it's a wealthy person would be like,
I'll just pay you to say that I'm the best.
Okay, great.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They find ways.
See?
It's a constant cat and mouse.
We need Thanos.
That's all.
Just snap it up.
They have lawyers. That's the thing. That's the. Just snap it up. They have lawyers.
That's the thing.
That's the thing in America that's protecting them.
They'll be like, yeah, I'd like to see you try.
I'd like to see you try to get me hanged with a bunch of dirty, poor people.
I know.
Not going to happen.
I'll helicopter over you.
Goodbye.
I'm going to my new planet.
That's why I go back to hand-to-hand combat every time.
It's like, bitch, I'm going to slap you.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
And I know we're not supposed to slap.
But sometimes, you know,
when you were a kid growing up before it got too
bad and your mama slapped you
for something, I don't know, maybe if that happened, just like
upside your head. Oh, yeah.
I'm just trying to be fair.
I know about catching hands
for getting out of pocket in public.
Yeah.
And then, you know, it obviously
turns into more bigger domestic violence disputes than that.
But I think a little taperoonie lets people wake up a bit.
But maybe I'm wrong.
That's a Pittsburgh in me.
And what is a myth?
What's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa?
Okay, listen.
If you guys can help me out with this, this is actually going to – I think you're going to laugh really hard, but this is going to blow your mind a bit.
So I never had psoriasis my whole life. I was like, a okay. And then maybe 2015, 16,
for obvious reasons, probably I got triggered and psoriasis happened and I became infatuated with
what, how and what and why. And just so everybody knows, it affects 2 million people in the United States,
and it's like this thing where your skin is itchy and the cells develop quicker.
It just happens out of nowhere, or it doesn't happen at all.
So all these doctors, when I first started coming, they were like,
it's not linked to diet, it's nothing linked to diet.
Because I was like, I can't, I don't want this.
This is not.
Is it red?
It'll be like, you see that little red patch there or it could be bigger like and it was just on my legs it started 2015 and
then it moved and your listeners will understand what i'm talking about because i've been bringing
it on stage more and like people that have psoriasis are like asking me to sign autographs
oh and i was like am i the spokesperson for psoriasis? Wait, is psoriasis the thing from that John Turturro character,
The Night Of?
You're so good about this stuff.
Oh.
Does he have psoriasis?
Oh, yeah, because he was itching.
He has some skin thing that itches.
Autoimmune disease.
Right, and he can't get rid of it,
but he goes to a support group where other people are just like,
it ruins their lives.
Oh, he had eczema, I think.
Eczema, yes.
Okay, so families.
And so when I fall down this,
I want to know more about these things.
When they're like, it's not the food.
It's not the, of course, not the,
well, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, mozzarella sticks.
As a kid, I had McDonald's,
all this chemical, chemical, chemical, chemical.
You're telling me it's not the food?
Okay, I'll bite, but I'm going to keep doing research.
So I've become more fascinated with how to
go in and talk to my body
about what's happening acupuncture
so yours is more of a question
than a myth about many
surrounding myths around a general
situation
you're trying to get to the bottom
of something more than
I think the myth is that it can't be cured.
Right.
Here's the myth that psoriasis can't be cured.
And I think it can.
Oh, so there you go.
Optimism.
I like that.
Yeah.
I'm sure that.
Yeah, right.
Are we.
What's like how much research is going into it?
Not enough, you think?
I think there I think there is.
But I do.
You know, every case is so different.
And I'm and I'm learning about this.
And it's like the just it comes down to the Chernobyl of things.
It connects all back to Chernobyl.
What are people eating and doing and living like that they're acquiring these thyroid
cancers or food allergies or, you know, some people can only have grass fed meat versus
wheat fed meat.
Where what is this doing to our communities and is this bigger than
we think rather than just like wives rise it's not a big deal and it's like bitch it's it feels
like a big deal if we trace it back to what you ate as a kid and how the air population and things
that were linked to you yeah people that just have asthma in pennsylvania they're like oh i just have
asthma what are you talking about your air quality is some of the worst in the united they're like, oh, I just have asthma. What are you talking about? Your air quality is some of the worst in the United States.
Right, and they've even linked that to Alzheimer's too.
You have a lot of pollution.
Parkinson's, I think.
My mom is on a thing where she, my mom has Parkinson's.
She was like, I think it had to do with the water we were drinking in Pittsburgh.
And I was like, okay, Bev, we're going to unpack that when I have time.
Right.
Yeah, the microbiome is so interesting, and it's like the next frontier of medicine
because it's just you have like an entire like city of different bacteria living in your guts.
And yeah, the fact that fecal transplants are such a huge like growth industry in medicine,
it's pretty wild.
It's like take someone else's poop and put it in your poop.
Yeah, but then they just came out with,
and why I was like, all right, guys, for $50 million,
I'll give it a go.
But they came out with tablets now, so it's like soluble,
so you can swallow someone else's stool for 30 days
to see if it changes.
And I was like, leave it to a woman from Pittsburgh
to have to swallow shit to feel better.
Andy Dufresne had to crawl through human waste to get to freedom.
Maybe that's a metaphor for we just have to eat our way through human waste
to get to freedom from psoriasis.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Put that on his like a tip.
All praise to Shasha.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
We're going to be right back.
Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered.
There are crooks everywhere you look now.
The situation is desperate.
My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption
that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
And she paid the ultimate price.
into a mafia state.
And she paid the ultimate price.
Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.
And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
Girl, yes!
Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as
your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts
who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't
get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about
that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take?
Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep.
Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports,
where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball
just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them boys.
I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas
be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black
Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports,
where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really in here to let me waste.
I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is braggadocious.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas
be sustained? This game
is only going to get better because
the talent is getting better. Listen to
The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs.
Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
get your podcasts.
And we're back and uh donald trump is our president okay next story that's fucking wild yeah uh so he is uh now beginning his officially beginning his re-election campaign
even though it's been unofficially.
Literally like 501 days away or something.
Right.
502 days away.
Yeah.
Get it going, baby.
And we just passed the June 16th, 2015 was the day that his 2016 campaign started.
So he's.
The day I got psoriasis.
Yes.
And weirdly.
Yeah.
So he's starting up his 2020 reelection because basically, I mean, he hasn't really been
presidenting so much as just running for reelection and thinking about reelection this whole time.
Oh, yeah.
Well, because I think for him, it's like, well, if I'm out of office, then I have a
lot of legal problems.
Right.
So I have to figure out how to be president forever.
Yeah.
So, yeah, you're only focused on kicking the can down the road as much as possible.
Yeah.
And not thinking of anything new.
And I mean, one of the obvious telltale signs that he's been running for re-election the
whole time is that he like kicked off with this big re-election event, like his first
big campaign event for 2020.
And it was indistinguishable from every other event he's had
oh yeah throughout his presidency aside from like it being in like a nice arena right rather than
like an airplane hangar or something yeah yeah but it was the same shit every time it's something
something immigrants something something muller is a hoax hologram something something hillary
clinton something something democrats will destroy. Which is something he actually said.
Democrats will destroy you. He's like, that's all
they want to do. They want to get in power and they want to take away
your freedom of speech. And you see what they're doing already.
So,
it's just odd. I mean, this shit took 80 minutes
and had everything. It had your Q
bags. You had the Proud Boys doing
all kinds of white power bullshit outside.
You know, it was just Bonnaroo for racists
and people were loving it.
But there's really nothing.
He really hasn't found anything new.
He mentioned Hillary Clinton more than, like, two times.
Like, he's really still talking about that shit.
Still talking about Hillary Clinton.
I think because for him,
that really is the only thing he actually achieved,
is like, I defied all odds,
and I beat this thing with the help of the Russians.
But, like, that, I think that's one of the reasons
why even when people talk about
when they get tours of the White House from him,
he'll like refer to the electoral college map
and be like, and this is my road to 270.
And I beat Hillary.
Like, so I think because there's really nothing else,
I think that's it.
But I guess the real issue too is that like,
it's becoming to the point where even like the crowd,
like, I don't know, 40 minutes in,
we're kind of like, right, yeah, fake news, boo. Like it's becoming to the point where even like the crowd like i don't know 40 minutes in we're kind of like right yeah fake news boo right like it's really the same shit and he doesn't have
like the same kind of he's not operating the same system before as an outsider he's like oh look at
that it's all bullshit huh but now he is in that position right so i guess all he can do is push
back against democrats and it's because it can't be the existing power structure because he is now the existing power structure.
Right.
Yeah.
So much of his appeal before.
I mean, the thing that actually appealed to people was this idea that he was speaking truth to power.
But he's the power now.
Rather than just talking shit to Jeb Bush.
Right.
Exactly.
That's going to be what he has to do.
And it happened in Orlando,
Florida. That was the kickoff, right? Right. Because he tapped right into his OG base.
And then I think the paper, the newspaper that day came out with an endorsement that was anyone
but this guy. Yeah. So take that. I went to UCF in Orlando and I would hope that they feel the
same, that they were like anybody but this guy.
Yeah. Well, I think when you look at it more that, you know, a lot of people, there's definitely more people now who like at least who may have been undecided, who are starting to like take a look at what's going on.
But again, we'll see.
I wonder if there, you know, you would want the human race to be like exhausted. Like I kind of like we kind of I think we're good.
Yeah. You know. the human race to be like exhausted like i kind of like we kind of i think we're good yeah you know yeah i mean hopefully you know his just this awful awful presidency could be like the best
thing for the united states is maybe can wake up a majority of enough people to begin to move past
it but i don't know there's still a good 30 of people who i think are going to think that some
kind of like that you know jeff bezos was was behind Trump not being reelected or something.
Right. Yeah.
Because there's young conservatives, which are fine.
Some are good. Some are fine.
But then they get a little proud boy ishy and you're like, oh, no.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got the Zoomers, the young Gen Z kids who basically.
Yeah.
Zed. The Zedders.
The young Gen Z kids who basically, yeah.
Zed.
The Zedders.
But yeah, I guess this will be, I think, trouble for him going into this campaign because if you're not, you know, like you can't really point at the things you've done.
I mean, you can lie about them because he certainly does, but it's not like the momentum
he had, which was like, let's fuck this shit up in DC.
Right.
And he was able to ride that because now that's on the Democrat side. And
you have people who are like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie, whatever. I wonder if he's tired.
Put like pointing out, they're like, look at what's going on. I mean, luckily both parties
have been at the wheel when a lot of this shit was happening, but like now there's a little more
momentum for, I think people to actually sort of pick apart the terrible policies that are going on and use that rather than him just being like, oh, boy, Hillary, huh?
I'm like, so what's that going to do for the base?
He's like, yeah.
For real?
Still her?
I mean, like what would be really unsettling is if he somehow found a heart,
like faked empathy, and was like, starting today, I'm actually going back.
Like, you know, realizing he's like, my base might not abandon me, but if I show enough heart, maybe I can pull in
independence.
I liken that to his reality show background.
Right.
That bait and switch.
And, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if we see it.
I just don't think he's that good enough of an actor.
Right.
No, of course not.
I think it would just his inability to
deflate from confrontation it will come with time because age comes at you but he's he's got i'm
waiting kind of waiting for him to exhaust himself a bit yeah he so anytime i i've had that thought
too before like oh all he has to do is just like tack to the center a little bit.
And even if it's completely disingenuous, he can like actually be a successful politician.
So this is back before the 2016 election, even like when he was first gaining popularity.
We had a writer at Cracked, Adam Todd Brown, who has a podcast now called Unpopular Opinion.
But he was the first person who was like, he's going to win.
But one of his theories was that he was going to somehow get the African-American vote to
come over to his side.
And it was like, it's this idea that he is a normal politician who can be disingenuous,
but like so much of what we found out about him is that like,
he is who he is.
He's a racist.
Yeah,
exactly.
Like he goes back to his racism.
Like he is abusing children of color in these concentration camps that we're
going to talk about.
And like just recently,
like he was asked about the central park five who were children of color who
argued should be put to death.
Right.
It's like,
this is,
he is who he's always been.
Right.
And he can't,
he doesn't have the ability to like change.
If the last election was like a fast and furious drag race,
like he hit the racist rocket fuel and it was able to just like blow
past this time you know like i it i think we've seen the limits now and it's really whittled down
his base to those people who are like yes full bore racists who are like yes i like this i'm with
this and that's been and it's also his racism has been and xenophobia transphobia homophobia every phobia has been so out there
that anybody else is like oh fuck no right so i mean again the one thing though is that this is
not going to be a fair election by any stretch of the fucking imagination this dude went on
fucking tv and was like hey baby it's open season i might take a look. Right. And even though he himself always says there's nothing,
there's no such thing as a free lunch.
Everybody knows that.
Right.
So he has to know, too, some world power comes to you
with, like, maybe some fucking underhanded dirt.
Right.
I doubt he's going to be able to be like, well, that was free, right?
Right.
And I don't have to do anything?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't have to do any business?
I heard a rumor, and I don't know if I'm correct,
that Suge Knight held him by his ankles outside of a hotel room in Atlantic City.
I don't know if any of those details are checked.
Because that definitely happened to Vanilla Ice.
I lied to you.
Not Suge Knight.
It was, now I know why I said Atlantic City.
It was like the mafia in Atlantic City when he came in to build hotels.
Oh, interesting.
He did it without addressing the mafia.
And I heard it from Jersey people, which make me so happy.
I was like, you guys been sitting on this for a while?
Right, seriously.
Who's got video of this?
Let's go.
Let's talk about it.
He would look so funny hanging upside down.
He would look so funny.
And I heard he peed himself.
Of course he did.
Yeah.
So this is the kind of person that I'm like, you show your cards.
It's like people have shown him cards before.
And I challenge those people to kind of do that. Not necessarily holding his ankles if you want to.
That's pretty chill though.
I agree with you that he's really shown racist and homophobia,
but to not recognize that,
that's the stuff that's mind blowing to me.
That you're just like,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no.
I have,
I know what I'm doing here and I know what's right for the,
my people.
And it's like,
homie,
what you're
saying is is insane well that's what yeah that's uh but that's his worldview and i think yeah that's
why it resonates with people with a very similar worldview and are and also fed the same diet of
who to blame for their own disenfranchisement it's never the reality which is accountability
capitalism yeah you know it's just always like, it's these immigrants.
That's why the GM factory moved,
not because we did shitty trade deals
and it's just cheaper for the companies
to make something else.
And we teach you how to be your own person
and navigate and build your own lifestyle
and food and water and power
and be accountable for your own life.
We tell you we've got this
and then we make all these bad decisions around you
and then we tell you it's colored.
It wasn't us.
It wasn't us.
It was anybody.
It was anybody but you and your church going folk.
And it's like, OK.
Yeah.
So, I mean, first, humanity needs to win the 2020 election.
But then we're going to have to deal with the fact that he's not going anywhere without, you know, I don't think he's leaving the White House on his own accord.
No.
He's going to have to be carried out of there.
By Bruce Willis?
And who knows, again, like probably by Bruce Willis.
Maybe that's the one person he respects.
He's like, come on, Donald, you got to go.
All right, Bruce.
I don't want to make this messy.
Maybe.
I mean, I challenge Bruce to give him a call.
I wonder who that one person.
I bet there is someone.
For sure.
Someone came in and said, look, Donald, it's time, bro.
You got to get the fuck out.
Like, there maybe is a celebrity that he would respect enough.
I'd be like, yeah.
All right, Mr. T.
Yeah.
Mr. T.
And I want it to be that.
Right.
Come on, Donald.
I want to see him alone.
Because Geraldo Pereira is not the one I want.
I'm like, no, it can't be you.
Right.
You're not. I have a feeling he's so can't be you. Right. You're not.
I have a feeling he's so afraid of LeBron James.
You think?
Probably.
Because in his mind, he's one of these racist people who probably thinks every person of
color is a predator.
Right.
And he's like, I know, you never know what they could do.
I mean, Mr. T, he might be old, but he wears a lot of gold.
I feel like he'd be embarrassed to meet LeBron because LeBron's such a classy guy that LeBron
would be like, what?
And just be like, I can-
When it's time to go, Trump, get the fuck out or you're going to get dragged out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Someone.
He'll be shooed out with a broom.
Let's talk about Mitch McConnell, who isn't going anywhere for other reasons.
He called him Turtle.
Turtle fuck.
Turtle fuck.
I did say that.
I did, yeah.
He's the fucking destroyer, man.
Yeah.
I know, but the name calling where I'm like,
turtles are just so chill.
Yeah.
I would not even want-
That's not fair to turtles.
Okay, fuck face.
Right.
So he argued-
Son of a Mitch.
He argued, son of a Mitch, that reparations are not necessary because Obama.
Essentially, it's what it boils down to.
He was asked recently, do you support it?
And he said, I don't think reparations for something that happened 150 years ago when none of us currently living are responsible is a good idea.
We've tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war,
by passing landmark civil rights legislation.
We've elected an African-American president that I thought I gave every ounce, fiber of my being to fucking thwart.
And yes, I mean, wow.
Where do we start here?
Reparations for something that happened 150 years ago.
Not the violent enslavement of African Americans.
Just something.
You know, just that thing.
And I wasn't there, so why do I have to deal with it?
Even though I'm looking at the legacy of it in its face every day.
And doing everything in his power to keep the legacy of it alive.
Whether that's through racist gerrymandering, restricting voting rights, doing everything in his power to keep the legacy of it alive.
Whether that's through racist gerrymandering, restricting voting rights, just anything,
everything and anything.
But I guess he forgot about all the things that have happened since then.
And recently, Ta-Nehisi Coates testified in front of the House about reparations, and he heard what mitch mcconnell said and my god i mean when you
go up against somebody who is just a master of a fucking genius with his words um we had to sort
of condense his response down because he did sort of refer to mcconnell's you know take on reparations
uh but this is sort of like uh some of the best bits of it from towards the end of his response. We grant that Mr. McConnell was not alive for Appomattox,
but he was alive for the electrocution of George Stinney. He was alive for the blinding of Isaac
Woodward. He was alive to witness kleptocracy in his native Alabama and a regime premised on
electoral theft. Majority Leader McConnell cited civil
rights legislation yesterday, as well he should, because he was alive to witness
the harassment, jailing, and betrayal of those responsible for that legislation
by a government sworn to protect them. He was alive for the redlining of Chicago
and the looting of black homeowners of some four billion dollars. Victims of that plunder are very much alive today. I am sure they'd love a word
with the majority leader. The matter of reparations is one of making amends and
direct redress, but it is also a question of citizenship. In HR 40, this body has a
chance to both make good on its 2009 apology for enslavement and reject fair weather patriotism.
To say that a nation is both its credits and its debits.
That if Thomas Jefferson matters, so does Sally Hemings.
That if D-Day matters, so does Black Wall Street.
That if Valley Forge matters, so does Fort Pillow.
Black Wall Street, that if Valley Forge matters, so does Fort Pillow.
Because the question really is not whether we will be tied to the somethings of our past, but whether we are courageous enough to be tied to the whole of them.
Woo.
Wow.
So, I mean, that's one side, I guess.
But, I mean, Mitch had some good points, too.
And that's a rebuttal to someone who goes,
I don't think reparations for something that happened 150 years ago.
Yeah.
It's so childish.
And so devoid of any nuance or real understanding of historically what has happened.
I guess because the point being is Mitch McConnell does not want to accept
or publicly accept the damage of institutional racism in this country
and rather would just be like, let me just
brush this off because I can't play on my team and be like, yeah, man, we do need to
have a reckoning about slavery.
If you have a reckoning here, you have a reckoning with what Trump said about grabbing a woman
by.
You have a lot of reckonings.
You have a lot of reckonings and you have to backpedal and their thing is not, it is
what it is.
Yeah.
It happened. Well, it's funny because when they backpedal, it thing is not it is what it is yeah it happened
well it's funny because when they backpedal it must be a kick stop because the bike just stops
yeah yeah it doesn't go backwards only forward let's get away from the past yeah um and yeah
it's uh it's funny because then you have candidates you know like uh who are out here who are really
actually trying to address this in many nuanced ways, like with different plans. Cory Booker is a huge proponent of this bill.
And Elizabeth Warren has even given recommendations on how she would help if you lived in a redlined
area, that you would actually have priority over subsidized mortgages and things like
this on a housing plan she's trying to do.
So there are people who clearly understand what the effects are.
Because look, if you look at the people who descend from slaves and the people who descend from slave owners, I don't think you'll see much equality there.
Nope.
And so you tell me if, like, you know, where the fuck are these 40 acres at?
Right.
And H.R. 40 is a commission to study and develop reparation proposals for African-Americans.
reparation proposals for African-Americans.
Yeah.
The bare minimum you can do considering just the amount of economic impact slavery had on the foundation of this entire country.
Yeah.
But you want to call it something and not actually look the atrocities in its eye.
Right.
And it's appropriate that he can't use even a word more specific than something there because-
I know, so neutral too.
I know.
Like something.
What the fuck?
Something that happened.
But I want to talk briefly about the controversy over the word concentration camp, which is referring to something that's happening now in AOC called the U.S. Detention Center's
concentration camps during a live stream.
And conservatives were like, their culture war spidey sense started a tingling and they
were like, we're going to embarrass her.
On Fox News, the vice president of the National Border Patrol Council was incensed
and said, they're not
running a concentration camp because
the children they're detaining
are, I swear to God he said
this, allowed outside their
cells. Yeah.
Oh. Their cells.
The kids were
outside their cells. Like their biological cells.
Where they're being detained.
The cell they're being held in.
So, I mean.
That's the, oh, okay.
So, okay.
So it's not a.
It's not a concentration camp.
You're not grouping oppressed minorities without trial and holding them.
So it is literally a concentration camp, like based on people who are experts on what concentration camps are, what the definition of that term is.
A bunch of experts and historians have pointed out concentration camps aren't exclusive to the Holocaust.
There are instances of concentration camps being erected all over the world.
And Trump's camps fit the bill because it's just by definition a mass detention
center of civilians without trial that is the definition of a concentration
camp there's been concentration camps in France South America South Africa Cuba
the Soviet Union and the United States with Japanese internment yep and now
fourteen hundred children are being moved to the site of a literal historical concentration
camp, Fort Sill in Oklahoma, which was a Japanese internment camp during World War II.
They're just like, we better underline this.
I don't think people fully appreciate how fucked what we're doing is.
Let's, let's.
Well, and everything about the conditions there and from people losing
their lives to like stripping away their recreation education access to legal counsel
but again this is the only way that the right can maintain their sanity or sense of morality
about what they're doing is by probably just they're looking at photos of Auschwitz and
comparing that to what they see right now and And they're like, oh, this is nothing like that.
Right.
So that's not right.
We're not going after religion here.
We're not going after that.
That's not what we did.
And it's wild to me they get that far.
Right.
But that, again, goes in the 24-hour news cycle.
It's like when a bully says something just to stop you, it's like that's the thing about this back and forth debate.
It's like the concept is concentration camps are bad.
What is happening is bad.
Right.
Yeah.
It's as simple as that, but they go further to go further to find.
They just pick and fight.
They fight constantly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think, yeah, don't let anybody try and disingenuously tell you, oh, well, that's
not what's happening.
Right.
I mean, I don't think one single person who was living in this country would subject themselves to being separated from their families and being put in conditions like this.
Never.
So from that level, I think maybe just take it there.
Would you want to be treated like this?
Right.
But then they're going to be like, well, I'm not going to acknowledge just the chance that my parents fucked between these borders.
Right.
So I don't have to conceptualize what that would be like.
Yeah, to conceptualize.
The idea of conceptualizing that they were gifted that place on a planet at a time. That's what it
is. It's a place on a planet at a time. That's when you're born. That is as basic as it all is.
And when you strip it to that, you're like, this is wild that you've made it this far.
One thing that our writer, Jam, pointed out is that the Obama administration actually temporarily housed migrant families at Fort Sill also.
And so that's probably something that the conservatives are going to point out. know, the Obama administration pioneered some of the tactics. The Trump administration is now just exacerbating and making far worse by separating families from one another. But
just one kind of difference between the two administrations is that were this pointed out
and were there a news story about the fact that what the Obama administration was doing was wrong,
about the fact that what the Obama administration was doing was wrong, there would be some sort of, you know, acknowledgement of that. And instead, the Trump administration's reaction is to weaponize
and try and push in the opposite direction and make it worse and worse because they think it's
sort of a battleground, like a front in the culture war that they can win on.
So it's just they're completely different things.
Yeah, and this is all terror that's being done in the name of the United States.
And our tax dollars are then going and filling the pockets of these people
who build these camps, and they just collect another check.
Yeah, and then the fact that they're making it part of sort of a military campaign, they're using the language of military, calling it a national emergency and describing it as an invasion when describing immigration.
I mean, climate is a natural emergency.
It's like ticking every single box except for maybe the death camp part.
Right.
Right.
Although it's getting there.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, when you think of Yeah. It's not the actual executions.
There's the conditions.
Right.
Lack of care.
That are overcrowding that leads to sickness and death.
And this sociologist and expert on historical examples of concentration camps is saying that,
and she was saying this before this controversy over whether concentration camps
fit this definition or not. She was saying these are concentration camps, first of all, but also
that this is just the beginning. And under the Trump administration, they're going to get worse
and bigger. And the fact that the Trump administration recently scrapped education, recreation, and legal services for unaccompanied minor migrant children in federal shelters across the country is really, really a bad sign.
Yeah, and I think people need to deal with this, right?
If you are a person who is uncomfortable calling this a concentration camp, it's because you are uncomfortable with the idea that these people are being treated like that.
Right. And I would really, you know, I feel like most listeners of this show aren't here to be like,
to hear to split hairs semantically over what a concentration camp is.
But for anyone that might not, like really, like even then,
I don't know if people will actually even read about it.
But fuck, just consider why you feel uncomfortable by that.
Right.
Because it's again, it's this idea that people are being treated inhumanely, being denied their own dignity, humanity, in the name of some kind of fucking made-up crisis.
And you're worried that they're bad people.
That's what you think, they're bad people.
Right.
And it's just, stop thinking they're bad people. Right it's just it's stop thinking they're bad people.
They're coming here to get away from a bad situation.
People like it's it's stop it and there is enough room and there is enough space and there is enough work and there is enough abundance on this planet for people to live well and happy.
And this narrative they've been throwing at you through capitalism is not real.
happy and this narrative they've been throwing at you through capitalism is not real right and the more we learn that the more we'll feel comfortable when people can economically make more money with
peace they will go that way yeah for sure yeah but don't forget they're allowed outside of their
self yeah they're allowed outside of their self like basically royalty they're being treated like
royalty they're allowed outside you think that person like like, says that to themselves so they can go to sleep?
Right.
They're allowed outside of their cells.
Right.
Well, because they think they're-
Like summer camp, basically.
Yeah.
They're like, listen, we're not hitting them.
They go back into the cell.
Yeah.
And we don't even know that because there's plenty of reports of abuse within these detention
centers.
So just keep in mind your fearless leader's track record on, you know, how he treats children
of color.
track record on how he treats children of color, he still refuses to apologize to the five men who he demanded be put to death in a full-page New York Times article. Even though they've been
exonerated by DNA evidence, he refuses to apologize or acknowledge even. He's like, oh, there are people on both sides of this.
It's DNA evidence, dude.
It's not.
Which side of the DNA?
Right.
It's, again, connecting Trump and OJ.
It's dioxiribosonucleic acid.
So what side of the oxide is it?
You're so good at it.
I'm pretty good.
It's so good.
Gotta go. Yep. so good at it. I'm pretty good. It's so good. Gotta go.
Yep.
Trump gets all smart.
Then he would win.
Yeah.
If he got all smart.
That ain't happening.
I know.
Yeah.
Thank God.
I know.
Thank God.
All right.
We're going to take another quick break.
We'll be right back.
Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered.
There are crooks everywhere you look now.
The situation is desperate.
My name is Manuel Delia.
I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption
that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
And she paid the ultimate price.
Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you getart podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions
like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary
if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions.
Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer,
we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner.
The only difference between the person
who doesn't get the job
and the person who gets the job
is usually who applies.
Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.
What is it?
Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take?
Yeah, rejection is scary,
but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Together, we'll share what it really takes
to thrive in the early years of your career
without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career.
Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep.
Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them.
Why is that?
I just come here to play basketball every single day,
and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros,
Clark and Reese have changed the way
we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast
Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple
Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Black Effect Podcast
Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
I'm Keri Champion
and this is season four of
Naked Sports where we live at the intersection
of sports and culture. Up
first, I explore the
making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People
are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a
foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here to play basketball every single day,
and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is braggadocious.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
And we're back. All right, guys. So we have learned that Leonardo DiCaprio is more influential than we had ever dreamed.
We've talked before on The Daily Zeitgeist about a rumor that goes around certain corridors in Hollywood that Leonardo DiCaprio is known to make love by putting on noise-canceling headphones,
sitting on his back, and vaping while...
You can't call that making love.
The second you introduce vaping and headphones...
Dude, it's fucking.
Right.
He fucks with noise-canceling headphones on and vapes.
Yes.
Anything in the noise-cancelings?
Music?
They say MGMT.
MGMT. MGMT.
Shock me like an electric eel.
Say baby girl.
I saw them live.
I think Leo was there.
Yeah.
Is this from women who have been?
Yeah.
So this is from a study from some place called Tick Pick.
Right.
And now.
That story, the Leonardo DiCaprio story is not from that.
Is not from that.
It is just from people who've had sex.
A rumor that's been around forever.
Yes.
But there's, so that's why it feeds into this story, right?
So Tick Pick, they did a quote unquote study.
I'm not sure how sound this is, but again, this is a second grade podcast and this is
all for-
We make sound puns.
Exactly.
That's what we are.
So anyway, what they did was they said they surveyed 1,010 people online via Amazon's
Mechanical Turk.
I don't know what that is.
Of the 1,010 participants polled, 54-
Mechanical Turk is the dude who was in a robot costume who beat people at chess back in the
day.
Oh, right.
And who now is at Comic-Con.
That's a great booth.
And Mechanical Turk.
Wow.
We're just so illiterate of history that people are just like dying.
They're like, oh my God, this robot just kicked my ass in the chest.
Holy shit.
Whoa.
54% of respondents were male, 45% were female, 0.4% identified as non-binary.
Additionally, 59.2% of the sample identified as millennials.
28% were Gen X.
10% were boomers. And the remaining 1%
were Gen Z.
Or the silent generation. Is the silent
generation older than baby boomers?
Wait, did you just say
Gen Z has slept with Leo?
No, no, no. These are people who
actually
responded to this.
Okay. No, these, no. These are people who actually respond to this. Although, probably.
No, these are just respondents.
The thousand people who responded to this. Oh, yeah.
I guess that's what they call the greatest generation is the silent generation.
The silent generation.
I didn't know that.
I only know what Tom Brokaw said when I came up with the idea of the greatest generation.
So, yeah.
See, there's some of the stats that they have.
Now, we're taking this with an entire fucking bowl of salt.
But they said songs of satisfaction, 50% of respondents were satisfied with their sex life overall.
Now, breaking it down by genre.
Country music fans, 66.3% were satisfied with their sex life.
The most satisfied.
Blues, 64%.
And they said at 16 minutes, on average,
blues fans lasted the longest in bed.
Wow. Jazz
at 63.2.
Give it up to
Muddy Waters.
They say, another stat,
hip-hop rap fans, least
likely to give oral sex. Yeah, duh.
Not true. Too busy. Oh, really? I'm eating
it all.
Hometown buffet. Aren busy. Oh, really? I'm eating it all. Hometown buffet.
Aren't you mixed, though?
Yeah, but that doesn't mean I can't like hip hop.
I know.
I just want to make sure.
Oh, no, no.
Hey, look.
Eating ain't cheating, is what they say.
If you're MC Chris.
That's an MC Chris album, okay?
I don't cheat.
They say nearly one in four folk fans had cried during sex. Does that make sense? I don't you uh they say nearly so folk fans nearly one in four folk fans had cried during
sex does that make sense i don't know i guess i don't want to like jump to stereotypes but i guess
like someone is so overcome i'm hoping that's what it is because i've been in situations where
people are like emotionally overcome or overwhelmed by orgasm folk song that give me an example. When you're down in trouble.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And you need
a helping hand.
Nothing,
nothing's going right.
Yeah, I mean,
if you're listening to music
while you're having sex
and that's the music
you're listening to.
Yeah, I wonder if,
but are you crying
because of the music
you fuck to?
Are you crying
because of the act?
Like, are they trying
to say folk?
Like, that's what I'm saying.
Like,
what is the causing the cry?
Emotions are honestly okay,
I think.
Yeah.
No.
Actually,
maybe that's the angle we should be taking is that.
Yeah.
Let's see what crime means in this context and maybe.
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Cause then if it's like the music,
I'm like,
damn,
you were really feeling that.
Right.
You know,
whatever album.
Like,
I don't have experience with women crying,
but they're always laughing when we have sex.
Right.
And like,
I think that that's like cool too. Well, that's cause you're always laughing when we have sex. Right. And, like, I think that that's, like, cool, too.
Well, that's because you're playing the Dane Cook album when you have sex.
Which is ironically called Harmful If Swallowed.
Laughing and pointing?
Yeah.
Some other facts.
Talking about positions.
By the highest...
But people are going to want to know who's the least sexually satisfied.
Okay, so...
Pop music.
Oh, yeah.
Pop music fans, 57.2% were the least. satisfied okay so pop music oh yeah oh yeah the pop music
fans 57.2 were the least they were at the bottom right um k-pop just pop just like if you like that
pop music that top 40 bullshit talk about and so now we're talking about respondent's favorite
sexual position overall doggy style yeah okay then Okay, then missionary, then cowgirl, spooning, reverse cowgirl.
By the highest percentage of music genre fans,
the most consistent doggy style for hip hop and rap fans.
Okay, great album also.
Shout out to Snoop Dogg.
For boring ass missionary, 32.9% pop music fans.
Listen, I kind of still like missionary.
Keep going.
Okay.
I mean, look, you can spice it up.
It's all up to you.
Listen, I like to have my noise-canceling headphones on,
and I like to vape.
Yeah.
And just blow it right into their face.
And blindfolds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And just complete sensory deprivation.
Put on that new Carly Rae Jepsen album.
Sensory deprivation.
Just a little hole in the top of my sensory deprivation tank.
One thing I did find interesting,
so when it comes to percentage
using contraceptives during sex
by preferred music genre,
the safest group, heavy metal fans.
Yeah.
Huh.
65%.
Then indie rock, then hip hop,
then alternative.
The lowest percentage of people
using contraception during sex,
country fans, 49.9%.
America.
Yeah.
Yeah. They want to- Multiply, baby. Multiply. That%. America. Yeah. Yeah. They want
to... Multiply, baby. Multiply.
And then the damning one, as we
said, 17%
have their AirPods in
while having sex. Yeah. What?
17% of
respondents said that they have had
sex while wearing
AirPods. Yes. Now I do wonder if
that is just forgetting to take them out?
Well, they said it could be for,
they didn't even have,
they didn't ask too much for a reason,
but it seemed like they were pointing to the fact
that it was people who were-
Come better?
Well, no.
Maybe they're listening to different music
than their partner.
I could see it being an intimate thing
if one of you has one AirPod and the other has the other.
But you're saying same song.
Just put the fucking stereo on.
Same song.
But that's the thing.
That's what the report is saying,
is that people have found what works for them.
Right.
Oh, is AirPod fucking?
And now this whole year, or this whole year,
our whole lives are like, put some music on for you both.
And it's like, some people are like, I don't like that music.
And so they want to listen to their own
and still have the feelings.
So it's very her-like.
Yes.
Like that distance.
It reminds me of that scene in The Third Black Mirror,
the entire history of you,
where they're having sex
and reliving their hottest night.
Oh, right.
But then you cut back to them having sex and
they're just like, uh, uh.
Their eyes are just
the grossest, most
uh. Because they're
not accepting who they are now in the
moment. Anyways, I will just
say, if you find yourself
holding up
one finger to your partner and saying,
sorry, go for Brentnt yeah on it while
while taking a phone call nothing man no literally nothing man bro all right bro gotta go all right
what's up girl miles you're gross you're a gross man i know and i fuck with airpods in
the thing is they're not even even AirPods. They're wired headphones.
I was going to say, Miles probably does a little asphyxiation of himself with his wireless. It's his gorgeous dangles in their face.
I'm sorry, the cord keeps getting in your mouth.
No way is that person apologizing for that.
And no, I won't stop listening to Toto Africa.
It helps you set a baseline rhythm.
I love the way from you.
If you want me to last for more than one minute.
Zeitgang, if you like to make love to music, let us know what song.
Oh, look.
I'll tell you right now.
D'Angelo Voodoo.
That whole album.
Okay.
Just fuck right now to it, everybody.
Now.
Right now, put D'Angelo Voodoo on.
My goodness, your blood will boil out your skin.
Also, if you had sex listening to this episode about having sex listening to this.
Please turn it off now and watch.
Now I'm going to fuck it up for you.
Oh, yeah.
Now I'm in your room with you.
Yeah, that is weird.
Yo, could you imagine people fucking the podcast?
Yeah.
That probably happens.
Yeah. Let me happens. Yeah.
Let me figure out what's going on here.
That's disrespect.
Yo, if you fuck with a podcast playing music, like, yeah.
But like, that's like if, I mean.
You're absorbing information still?
Yeah.
Genetic information.
Genetic information.
That dioxiribosuclidic acid.
Talk about guanidine, adenine, cytosine, and tyrosine.
Letters that spell Gattaca also.
Coincidence?
I don't know.
Maybe.
So I think when you think about a podcast, though, that's like passive entertainment.
I get it like, yo, the Netflix and chill thing.
That's more of just an entry point into lovemaking.
If you're both listening to the same podcast, not as bad, I think.
Yeah, but what would...
Could you imagine, though?
Here's my take. Everybody's heads are shaking. I think. Yeah, but what would... Could you imagine, though? Here's my take.
Everybody's heads are shaking.
I think you could be listening to something.
I think I have...
What about audiobooks?
You know what I mean?
People get down doing a lot of stuff.
And I think podcasts are a part of the norm now.
Yeah.
And I do think that might be something sexy,
what she said.
And I just wrote down Chernobyl podcast.
Okay, maybe that one.
Yeah, that one's fair.
It's very,
and it really expands
on the source material.
I can only become aroused
if I'm listening
to Peter Sagal's voice.
Oh, yeah.
So either wait, wait,
don't tell me
or the Chernobyl podcast.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait.
Wait, wait.
Don't tell me.
Don't go again.
Don't go again.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Tell me.
Don't touch it.
Don't touch it.
I'm going to take a breath.
I'm going to breathe it out. I'm going to breathe it out. Speaking of Chernobyl, guys, real quick wait, wait, wait. Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me. Don't touch it, don't touch it, don't touch it. I'm going to take a breath. I got to breathe it out.
I got to breathe it out.
Speaking of Chernobyl, guys, real quick.
Chernobyl, we're all fans here.
We've all seen Chernobyl now.
Miles, you got around.
I'm so sorry.
Look, it was heavy.
Still tried to get into when they see us.
I'm sorry I was talking to my dad.
We were both like,
I got to let that one rest for a second.
Chernobyl, though, my goodness.
It was one of those things I was worried it was just going to be a a bummer it is right however it's about sort of this you sort of get hooked on the pursuit of the truth in what had actually
occurred because they presented in a way where like again like they even said in the podcast
my idea was some shit went down something, everything got all messed up and radioactive and people had to leave.
Right.
And that was it.
I knew nothing else.
Yeah.
And then when you sort of break it down, you're like, oh goodness.
Yeah.
So many people had to go through such unnecessary shit for no good reason.
And to be honest, a wake up call into understanding the plants around you.
Right.
To be completely honest, to understand as a person living anywhere near any type of plant,
power plant,
nuclear plant,
to understand a little bit more and what your surroundings are.
What the potential is for something to go wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because we so blindly live there and it's usually cheaper real estate,
to be completely honest with you.
And that is for the reason.
And then to not know what is there and around you.
And today our power lines,
like people not knowing that too much too.
It's,
it's weird.
And I think that show and the podcast do a really great job of guiding you through it.
Yeah.
It's wild.
Well, anyways, speaking of pursuit of the truth, we're going to get a second whack at
the Chernobyl disaster.
This time, not from HBO, but from Russia, Russian television. Like state TV.
Yeah, Russian state TV, basically.
Have they ever put out a show before?
I think so, yeah.
It's called Look Away Now.
News what?
No, no, no, no, no.
So there is a conspiracy theory in Russia that Chernobyl was caused by a CIA agent who went in and basically caused the problem.
So the conspiracy theory, I think, is that there were actually nuclear weapons at Chernobyl,
and they sabotaged the nuclear weapons facility.
So then in that version, the Russian state recognizes that Chernobyl was a nuclear weapons facility? So then in that version, the Russian state recognizes
that Chernobyl was a nuclear weapons facility?
Yes, in this version.
Oh, so it was a power plant
and they had a little side hustle.
They were enriching uranium for warheads.
Right, right.
They are admitting to that?
Well, they have to create.
That's the only way this theory works, right?
Well, the thing was we were making weapons there and that's why the CIA came, not because they were like.
They didn't release the name of the CIA agent.
They don't have that.
They just.
No.
Okay, they don't have that.
I think the CIA agent is made up.
Yeah.
Fictional character.
But it's interesting because Pravda is the Russia state run TV network and media outlet.
state-run TV network and media outlet, and they've published several negative articles about the HBO Chernobyl and are really not happy with that. But then the rest of the media in Russia,
it's not like everybody in Russia is like, fuck you, HBO. The rest of the media in Russia is like,
wow, it's really good. And their attention to detail is amazing because they got like all these little aspects of life in the Soviet Union.
Right.
But the Russia state TV still not having it, man.
Well, right.
And it's one of those things, too, where the effects of it were so widespread that unless you were just a true Soviet, you might not have been willing to just swallow the explanations, especially when you saw how many people who were affected by the radiation.
Right.
And be like, oh, it's chemical stuff?
I don't know, because I know a lot of...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, well.
Is it in production yet?
Do they have a writer
and a director attached?
They have a director, and she has promised
to tell the real story of what actually
went down. Yeah, it will be Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
And Steven Seagal. Yeah, I bet you did. He story of what actually went down. Yeah, it will be Julia Louis-Dreyfus. And Steven Seagal.
Yeah.
Yeah, I bet you did.
He's going to have to be.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, he'll play the CIA agent?
Probably.
Do you think he would be willing to play himself like that?
Not to play himself, but to make himself the evildoer in this?
I don't know.
Has he played a bad guy?
He has, right?
He is a bad guy.
I know, but that's the thing.
That's like Trump would never want to be in a...
That's why he was such a bad host of SNL is they're like, okay, so you're evil.
And he's like, what?
It was great in the lobby of Home Alone.
Right, exactly.
Yeah.
Oh, he was so good in that.
Well, Steven Seagal, please stand up and wipe off your pain and care.
In your own time.
Yeah.
JC, it's been so fun having you.
Where can people find you, follow you?
Absolutely.
I'm on Instagram at JC Coakley.
It's a very Italian name.
J-C-C-O-C-C-O-L-I.
And I will be in London July 1 through 12
doing my premiere of my one hour Coal Country,
spelled C-U-N-T-R-Y.
And it's about our cross-country green journey
that America's on.
And I'll be performing over at London Climate Week
while I'm there.
Oh, nice.
Which will be really cool.
Very cool.
London, Zeitgang, pull up.
Yeah, Zeitgang, pull up.
Pull up.
Fish and chips.
Is there a tweet or other act of social media
that you've been enjoying?
Oh, yeah.
The tweet that I liked. Can it be my tweet? Oh, yeah. Of course.'ve been enjoying? Oh, yeah. The tweet that I liked.
Can it be my tweet?
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
We prefer it to be.
Okay, cool.
I mean, I know for a fact that there's better ones, but the panic I feel trying to give
a barista exact change is ungodly.
I feel like I did a really good job with that,
and it's really true.
I'm an exact change person.
Yeah, exact changes.
And then people are like, hurry up, lady.
Right, right.
Hold on, I got these pennies.
They're heavy.
They're nickel.
I learned about nickel and Chernobyl.
There you go.
Miles, how about you?
Where can people find you?
Oh, my goodness.
Yes, find me on Twitter, Instagram, Weibo, Facebook, Spacebook, MySpace, at Miles of Grey.
A tweet I like is actually from an image that someone from the Zagang had tweeted at me.
Ed, at Don Pulgo.
And it's a photo of a building sort of collapsing, but it's only being held up by like three poles.
And the collapsed building is Biden 2020.
And the things holding it up are MSNBC, CNN and NPR.
Very apt.
Very apt.
Very apt, sir.
Very apt.
Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Sorenb Bowie tweeted,
if I was one of the guys in a boxer's corner,
I'd try to have something nice for him
every time the bell dings,
like orange slices or a card or something.
And Joe Randazzo tweeted,
I'm the Chernobyl engineer in the hospital bed saying,
I did everything right.
I did everything right as my face melts off.
Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page and a website,
DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes
and our footnotes.
We'll link off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on.
Miles, what's up?
This song.
Let's do one from actually
Madison McFerrin who is the
Child of Bobby
Yes
She is fucking very talented
So is her brother Taylor
They're just a very talented family
This track is from her and it's very much like
On the acapella vibe but she's also
Bringing her own flave
It's called Insane from Madison McFerrin.
Yeah.
Talented family, those McFerrins.
Yeah.
If you only think Bobby McFerrin was a one-hit wonder,
he's like one of the great vocalists of the past.
Vocal control out of control.
Yeah, yeah.
The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.
For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
All right.
We're going to ride out on that.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
And we'll talk to you guys then.
Bye.
See ya. Love to scream your name
And I would gladly fall in vain for this
Grasping memories between my head Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated.
Crooks everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks.
She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country
into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.
And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson.
We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
That's where we come in.
Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do,
like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us
a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore
the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball
just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way
we consume women's basketball.
And on this new season,
we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Listen to Naked Sports
on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
iHeartRadio apps,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Black Effect Podcast Network
is sponsored by Diet Coke.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Every great player needs a foil.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Listen to the making of a rivalry,
Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One,
founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.