The Daily Zeitgeist - Movie Pass Is Watching You, White House Brain Drain 3.7.18

Episode Date: March 8, 2018

In episode 99, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Brendon Small to discuss Jeff Sessions suing California, Texas primaries, movie pass, new sexual consent app, a Bachelor after the rose recap with producer Anna, Stormy Daniels, Gary Cohn, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I got a few names for myself today because I was just thinking about Black Panther, a.k.a. Wakanda Sykes, a.k.a. T'Challa Back Youngin'. Woo-hoo! So those are just some homemade ones. And that's that. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious Brendan Small. Hello. Thank you for having me.

Thank you for being here. A.K.A. Donald Cock. Donald Cock. That's true. Yeah, that's true. I'm just trying to, you know, everyone gets an A.K.A. out here. Yeah, that would be my, I guess I can't really admit to that at all. So I don't know what you're talking about. All right.

Forget it. Yeah. Brendan, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? I guess lately – in the last year, if you were to look at my search history, I have been searching for ways to do practical effects for live action. And so if you look at my search history, you'll see that I've learned everything from YouTube. I mean, you can really learn anything you want to learn from YouTube. I've performed surgery on myself. I have taken my own teeth out.

But yeah, I have euthanized anyway. So no, but I have – so I just put out this short film called Galacticon Nightmare, which is this whole thing that I – I wanted to learn how to do the – do you remember in Flash Gordon the ink – like the skies in that movie? There are all these very colorful skies that – anyway, what they do is they fill an aquarium full of different viscous liquids. Oh, really? And they light it in different ways and they film it. And I filmed it with anamorphic lenses and I used that as skies and backgrounds. And what it gets – the whole idea is to not use any CG whatsoever. Right, right. It's part of like my Dogma 95.

Instead of Dogma 95, it's Corman 82, Roger Corman 82. Anything Roger Corman can do, I can do. And that's the whole idea of this video. So you'll see that we built robots. We built spaceships. We shot them on green screens. We built spaceships. We shot them on green screens. We composited everything. We used

these cool backgrounds. We built a cool space whale creature, which is something between this crazy silicon thing that we shot underwater. Anyway, so everything that I wanted to learn between my brother, Jeff Small, who is a makeup effects aficionado.

He's been doing it for 15 years. So he and I partnered to make this whole thing with Funny or Die. You can go check it out at Funny or Die or go to Galacticon.com and check it out too. And so you had miniatures for your spaceships and all that like – We had – I just noticed that there's something – somebody told me this. I don't remember who to attribute this quote to. But basically CGI looks very real but we know it's fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In every single movie, every huge, gigantic budget movie. But anytime we see actual practical effects, an actual thing that may have been a miniature or something, it looks maybe fake, but it feels real. We know it's tactile. It does something to our subconscious. You can feel the weight. Exactly. We know it's tactile. It does something to our subconscious. It can feel the weight.

Exactly. We know there's volume and density, and it refracts light in the real way because that's actual light hitting an object. So all those things hit our subconscious when we watch something. And so I wanted to do – I wanted to experiment with that stuff, and I'm really, really happy with how it turned out. So when you check it out, you'll see that this looks like a huge, gigantic budget thing. I don't even want to tell people what I spent for this thing because I got the right lenses. I got the right crew. I got a great DP.

This guy, Matt Sweeney. I got a great compositor. This guy, Brian Weider. And I got my brother and a great editing team. And then I also scored all this extra stuff in a John Carpenter style. So just check it out. It's really fun. No, I love that because that's like what I think with Christopher Nolan too.

He has such an insistence on doing everything in camera and that lends itself to sort of the magic of a lot of his films where he's really realized like everything has to be practical. There's something to – when you see Batman standing on a gigantic huge building and the wind is blowing his cape and you know that that's a person and it's a huge shot, a helicopter shot sweeping in, something happens where you think that's Batman. That's the actual Batman on a building. Yeah, yeah. And he's about to fly off of it. Versus like Jell-O Spider-Man or something. Yeah. Well, I mean the stakes are very low when we – like through CGN and all that stuff,

we know that someone is just invulnerable and they can slip and dodge and move. Just standing on an apple crate in like a bright green room. Yeah. I mean – but there's something to it too when it's done well. But this is a fun experiment in that. Check it out. That's part of it. so basically i took my comic book i have a record called galacticon i have a comic book called galacticon and from the comic book i took that and put it up on its feet so you'll see robots space whales spaceships and all kinds of crazy stuff

anyway that's that's all my google searching has been me being around lunatic just researching this stuff amazing yeah you're probably the most like prolific guest we've ever had uh on for people who aren't familiar with your work but like you i mean you've had tv shows you uh have some of our favorite characters on comedy bang bang the tv show on comedy bang bang the podcast uh yeah Yeah, Brendan is all over the place. I was telling my girlfriend this morning, I was like, this is the first time I've been a fan of someone that's come in. I mean, I admire many of the guests.

But yo, no, I think because I'm so like... That's good and terrible at the same time. No, like from home movies and things like that. And just like, even like when you would be on Aqua Teen, I'm like, yo, I think that's Brendan Small. I just have this thing. So it's very good to have you here. Thank you, guys.

Miles always talks about your Australian accent. I know. My guy pride. I know. I guess I'll stream some Hulu. I love Australia. Australia has been very nice to me

over the years, but it doesn't really even sound like an Australian accent. It's somewhere between South Africa and New Zealand in some places. You're on a ship from South Africa to New Zealand. Yeah, I'm retrieving ivory and ivory. I can't find my destination. Luckily, we do have a good amount of people who listen in Australia. Yeah, from Australia.

Shout out to everybody in Australia. So we'll hear from them. Australia, good day. What is something you think is underrated, Brendan? Underrated. I love, if we're going to talk about movies and stuff like that, I think original scripts are underrated. I think original new ideas.

Anytime I see a movie that may not be like a top tier movie, I give him so many points for being original, for having a new character, for having something new to look at, to have a new ideology, philosophy or just a new take on the human condition. That to me I think is underrated in a world of lots of things that are kind of safe bets, high Q ratings equal an audience. So because we recognize this, we'll go see that movie. And it's true. It does make a lot of money. But we're – I mean why do we go to the movies in the first place? To connect, to feel something, to escape maybe or to confront.

So that's the kind of stuff I really applaud when it's original. So I don't know. Maybe that's underrated originality. Yeah. I personally go to the movies to compare and contrast different versions of Tomb Raider. I'm always curious about the different visions of that. Yeah. Just talking about practical effects, something that I learned from an effects house in Los Angeles that we interviewed back when I worked at Cracked was that practical effects people, you know, everybody thinks CG was like first came on the scene with Jurassic Park and they associate Jurassic Park with all CGI.

But a lot of that is practical effects kind of combined with CGI. And it's a really great balance because you do see a sleeping. They nailed it. What is it, like a stegosaurus or something like that? Or there's a triceratops. That's what it is. And it's sleeping. You balance because you do see a sleeping – They nailed it. What is it? Like a stegosaurus or something like that. Right. Triceratops or something. Or there's a triceratops. That's what it is.

Right. And it's sleeping. You can actually see its chest rise and fall. Yeah. And that's a real actual practical thing. Yeah. They built that. I think – I mean I'm interested to see what Spielberg does with Ready Player One.

By the way, I will watch everything over and over again by Spielberg. Yeah. You cannot do wrong. Oh, for sure. I think this shit was real too in Jurassic Park. I think it that was steven spielberg's shit yeah he's collected it over time um that was my big question though because uh with those dinosaurs they had to be eating so much like there just had to be barges of dinosaur shit just like leaving that island uh daily that's probably true yeah what how did that that's a

spinoff film that's like a rosencrantz and gildenstern are dead of the jurassic park world yeah uh brendan what's something that's overrated facebook yeah i said i don't know i mean yeah i think i think it's a really what it does is it makes people just feel bad about themselves all the time because they're everyone's kind of looking at the grass as greener constantly. And I think it's – it just makes people feel like hell. I think people come home and they go, they have that. How come I don't have that? Why are they doing this and I'm not doing this?

And so everyone is in a complacent place constantly. And I also think it's a surrogate for friendship. And I think that's a tricky and dangerous thing too. I think people are more isolated than ever right now. And they shouldn't be because even though we're all – even though we like to think that we're good by ourselves, we're like, I can take – I'm Batman. I can stand on top of a thing and be by myself. We're pack animals and we're at our absolute best when we're working together on something. If we're like a group of people doing the same thing, we're like – we get high. We get some kind of great feeling because we're all working together on something.

And when we're isolated, pretending to have friends, kind of checking in here and there. We are communicating a little bit but you're looking at your friend count. You're looking at all this different stuff. I think it's a very dangerous thing and I think it's the illusion of friendship. It's the illusion of contact, but it doesn't really make up for it. So I think that you can pinpoint that and just kind of look at destructive things that are happening in our society right now and I do think Facebook may be part of it. Oh, absolutely.

If we didn't have Facebook, we had to just be around each other, we would be a different society. 100%. Yeah. I mean, it's annoying to be around people at the same time, so that contradicts everything I said. That's why when people say, like, well, I sent you a message on Facebook, I'm like, I live in the real world. You have my phone number. You can call me. Well, that's equally annoying. And I will pick up.

Why just don't look at Facebook? I live in meat space, bro. No, yeah, I agree. Actually, because I was working, and Facebook was always a work thing. I never totally got into it. But I think you're right that there is a broader consequence of that. that kind of talks about the opioid crisis in relation to this kind of deep loneliness that our current version of capitalism has engendered. And they talk about this study that was done where they put rats in individual cages and gave them access to opioids, and then they put them in a place where they could sort of exercise and interact with other rats, and they just chose not to do the drugs

when they had the opportunity to interact with other creatures like themselves, whereas the ones who were in the cages just did it until they died. And, I mean, that's basically the whole thing. Yeah, that totally makes sense. I think we have basically the whole thing. Yeah, that totally makes sense. I think we have – I mean I think we have an incredibly lonely president. Oh, yeah. Oh, my god, yeah. Can you imagine how isolated and how lonely his life is right now?

Well, yeah. Like all people who are close to him have been filing out and he's sort of left – he's willed down to nothing. He is down to zero. He's willed down to nothing. He is down to zero. I mean imagine just the psychosis involved with just having nothing – and the kids, which are kind of like – they're kind of – he's in a position of where he has to push them out too. Right. So just imagine your daily life. You're the most powerful person in the world and you have not one person that you can trust or talk to.

Or those people around you are just yessing you to death. Yeah. And you know it. You know when someone is kissing your ass and – I don't know if he does. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he could very well not. But I do think that's – this is part of the Facebook, Twitter, all that stuff.

So that's what I think is – I think it's overrated. And I think if – every time I hear about Facebook fucking up and maybe going away, I get kind of excited. You know? Yeah. yeah well it's funny because yeah like in that loneliness right same with social media like you may post something that you think will get likes to sort of validate yourself and in the same way like he uses twitter to just cause a huge fucking uproar that's like his way of saying like oh there's my feedback or there's my like there's me interacting and like oh now i can sort of kick the can down the road and just stay in my room for executive time.

Yeah, there's behind-the-scenes reports that he gets itchy when he's not in the headlines for a couple days. Yeah, I can see that. But it's – I mean this is, again, something that wouldn't have happened 10, 20 years ago. No one needs to hear from me. That's what I'd have to say too. Nobody – I mean I'm out there just – I'm basically a salesperson just going, hey, I've got this for sale. I've got this for sale. Right. I hope you like it. Peddling your way. Exactly. That's all I'm really there just – I'm basically a salesperson just going, hey, I've got this for sale. I've got this for sale. I hope you like it.

Peddling your wear. Exactly. That's all I'm really doing on Instagram and Twitter. And then every once in a while, I'll tweet a joke or something like that. But that's very rare. You don't need to hear from me. Right, right. You don't need to get – you don't – just enjoy the stuff I put out.

You don't even know who I – you shouldn't know who I am. Right, right. Yeah, it's fucking me. I've even seen you, Brendan. So I'm just like – I don't know if I'm enjoying this. I know, i'm enjoying this yeah exactly but i mean you really shouldn't be checking in on people like me at all that's what i think i don't need the daily zeitgeist i don't yeah but i don't need to hear like i i love arnold schwarzenegger i don't need to know what he's saying every day i don't need to look at him every day i don't i don't need to look at donald trump ever but i mean

i really don't need to look at him and watch him melt down constantly right although every story i hear about arnold schwarzenegger just makes me like him more like as a person just aggressive aggressive like yeah just like a gym teacher i don't know why i picked arnold schwarzenegger to be honest i don't know great video guys just search uh arnold schwarzenegger brazil on youtube and Check out that fucking sex cream out there. Dude, he is like in Brazil in the 70s. Oh, I know that one. He doesn't understand boundaries or that he's making this woman so uncomfortable.

Interesting. Interesting. I think I know that. Terrifying. All right. So I don't advocate that. All right. We're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now,

today, at the moment that we record it. And the way we like to open up is by asking our guests, what is a myth? What's something that people out there think is true that you know to be false based on your personal experience? Oh, geez. Oh, man. Help me out here, guys. I don't know. Anything with guitars?

I mean, you're a guitar. Oh, I know. I mean, look, I'm a guitar guy. So I've got – like I'm kind of straddling the line between music and comedy entertainment stuff. And I definitely want to keep one foot planted forever in the guitar and music world. But I – a lot of people are players and people – and it's funny. If you're a guitar player, you're a guitar teacher. Right.

Whether or not you want to be, you're going to show your friend down the street a cool lick or a riff or how to play Iron Man or something cool. Right, right. Which is how I learned how to play guitar was by my friend down the street showing me how to play Iron Man. But there are a lot of different myths. One of the myths about guitar is that I learned – so you have a regular show called Baked that super producer Anna Hosnier works on with you. With Steve Agee, yeah. With Steve Agee. baked that uh super producer anna hosnier works on with you uh with steve agey yeah with steve agey and uh you know i came to that show and you and another gentleman whose name i'm drawing a blank on who's apparently a guitar god mike kneely mike kneely kneely yeah you guys are both just

incredible guitarists but you don't look like guitarists like necessarily you look like normal people we uh cause well he was in Death Clock with me when we were touring so we would just get mistaken for the band accountants

because none of us I mean what do you do with that artist pass bass player and drummer look like cool badass rock and roll guys me and Mike look like the kind of guy that

we look like you know we're gonna take your ticket at the booth right so um Mike looks like a little like the kind of guy that we look like we're going to take your ticket at the booth. Right, right. Mike looks a little like Leonard Maltin. I think that's what Zach Altonac has called him. Mike Keneally, if you haven't checked him out, check out his stuff. Holy shit, man.

He is a monster in every possible way of musicianship, and he's a funny, nice, great guy. Yeah. And so is everybody in the Baked band. But he just got off a tour with Joe Satriani where most of the Baked band is now part of Joe Satriani's band. So Joe Travers just toured with Satriani. Brian Beller, who plays with me in Death Clock and Galacticon, is in the Satriani band. And, yeah, so it's funny. We share a rhythm section. Our comedy show shares a rhythm section, which seems like, oh, why would Joe Satriani pick a comedy rhythm section?

Because they're a solid band. I use a term often. They're super musicians. They can do stuff that nobody else can do. And they can do it while they're drinking a cup of coffee and just do it with one hand. Right. They're insane. So also in our band is Walter Eno, who's kind of like a Mike Keneally on his own,

and he has done tons of shows with us, and he's a monster player, guitarist and keyboard player. Yeah. And singer. He can do anything. He's a human jukebox. Yeah. All right.

Let's get into the stories of the day, you guys, because there's a lot of stories to catch up on, and we're just going to go through them pretty quickly up top. up on um and we're just going to go through them pretty quickly up top um jeff sessions in sort of uh the continuing wweification of politics sessions uh went to sacramento and said he was going to uh sue california over sanctuary cities and then uh the governor of california fired back with a tweet. And it's just all like, yeah, I'm coming for you. They're like, try it.

Sad. You ain't going to do shit. Yeah, it's crazy. It's a stunt. Right. Because he's basically trying to – it's over these three laws that California passed in the wake of Trump's election basically saying like we're not going to tell our police to enforce immigration laws. Like they're police. They're here to enforce like actual actual laws and and and you know keep criminals

off the street uh so again you know just a seems like just a political stunt we'll see what happens i think this case is a little bit it might be harder for them to win because like you know typically states will sue the doj over shit uh and with them trying to like sort of prove that these laws are like sort of like you know preventing ice from doing shit is might be a little bit harder because they're already in california doing raids so they're gonna be like what's the problem like yeah trying to say just because we're i guess defying you you know they want to sue and and make it about that but i wish that uh sessions and trump would commit to um to hating each other and doing the opposite of one another's agenda or something.

I just wish – I'm confused by their – maybe it's because I'm a writer. I just want one simple story. You know what I mean? Like, oh, this is confusing. You don't want any of this. You want that. Oh, he's calling him like – what's he calling him? Captain Crunch or some kind of – he may as well – what did he – Mr. Magoo.

Yeah. Mr. Magoo. Yeah. Which isn Magoo. Yeah. Which isn't even very good. I mean he doesn't really look like – Well, Mr. Magoo did like – even though he was bumbling, he did solve all the crimes. Right, right. So – but he was old and myopic and couldn't see and all that stuff.

But I wish that – and Sessions feels like he's falling in line with Trump's ultimate plan to destroy all – Well, he's definitely – Sessions is a – he always wanted to get rid of immigrants. So I think this is pretty normal for him. This is his own agenda. Yeah. Right. Yeah, that's interesting thinking about it from a writer's perspective because, I mean, this is a type of propaganda that Putin and the Kremlin, the current sort of regime in Russia,

perfected where it's just like they put – there's like shifting realities where you're never like on a firm standing. And like so they'll be friends. They'll say they're friends. They'll say they hate each other. And like you just don't know where you stand at any time and like five different things are true at any given moment. And it just makes it really difficult to attack any set of ideas. Well, I'll tell you, if I see a movie that's this murky and the characters are this kind of poorly drawn, I turn it off. But I can't turn this off.

There's no way for me to turn this off. It just keeps happening. And it's a terrible, stupid, shitty story. Right. So the first primaries of the election season happened yesterday in texas uh miles what did we learn well we learned that texas uh is poised to send two latinas to congress for the first time oh no that's good that is good whoa come on buddy that's the other podcast you do right right daily storm. Daily Stormer. So it seems a little bit late considering the demographics in Texas.

But either way, Veronica Escobar and Sylvia Garcia are on their way. And the only reason we assume this is a foregone conclusion is because how solidly blue their districts are that they're running in. They are in one of the very few. Yeah. And also Beto O'Rourke, you know, he got the nomination for the Democrats to run against Ted Cruz. And one of the really interesting things was the turnout was historic in Texas for Democrats. I think in 2014, there was something like 600,000 Democrats showed up. This go-around, it was like something just over a million.

So that's a huge indication that – yeah. But however, the Republicans, there were like I think one and a half million Republicans came out to vote. But that's just a function of them – there being more registered Republicans than Democrats in the state. Nonetheless, it feels like a little bit of a – The Republicans are emphasizing this. Fox News is running with this story more than any other outlet I saw that the Democrats are coming out in full force because I think they understand what the mainstream media didn't understand ahead of the 2016 election, that the more you cover how strong the other side is coming, the more people will be motivated to get out and actually vote. So, yeah, you're seeing the conservative media make a huge deal about the Democrats actually coming out. But, you know,

the Republicans came out in massive numbers as well. And it's probably not going to happen for the Democrats in Texas. It is just a sign that there is a blue wave, that they are so much – the numbers were stronger than they have been previously. And the one fun thing was, you know, as Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke, you know, that now we know that's going to be the Senate showdown. But as Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke, now we know that's going to be the Senate showdown. Ted Cruz released this dumbass country song to flame Beto O'Rourke. Brendan, you'll have to listen to this. I have to hear this. Just critique this composition from the Ted Cruz campaign.

If you're going to run in Texas, you can't be a liberal man. Because liberal thought is not the spirit of a Lone Star man. Man and man. Yeah. If you're gonna run in Texas, and honest about your plans. If you're gonna run in Texas, you can't be a liberal man. Ooh. Okay.

I remember reading stories Liberal Robert wanted to fit in Liberal what? So he changed his name to Beto And hit it with a grin Beto wants those open borders And wants to take our guns Not a chance on earth you'll get a vote From millions of Texans.

Texans? In Texas, you can't be a liberal man. I'm Ted Cruz, and I approve this message. I'm Ted Cruz, and I approve this message. I'm Ted Cruz, and I approve this message, man. He's trying to flame Beto O'Rourke because his name is Robert O'Rourke. He's Irish. Right.

But he's also fluent in Spanish, but he's been called Beto his whole life. Ted Cruz is trying to be like, he changed his name. To appeal to Latino people. Maybe that's what he's trying to say, but also remember Ted Cruz, your real name is Raphael Edward Cruz. And you're Canadian.

I don't know. I don't think that's a good song. I don't think it is. I don't think it's a good song. I don't think it is. I don't think it's – I think those chords have been a little overused. I don't think they're going to grab your ear too much. And furthermore, I think it's just too many syllables per stanza. Right. They were shoehorning in a few things.

They were really shoehorning. I don't remember. I was like, whoa, Libba. The only one that can really put that many syllables into a song is like John Popper from Blue Traveler. Like Busta Rhymes. You know, saying that kind of stuff. You know, that's just too much stuff. And liberal is just not a good word.

They should have changed it to libtard. They should have changed it to a two-syllable. Liberal. And they're trying to make it a – it's a three-syllable word. They're trying to make a two-syllable. Yeah, liberal. Yeah, liberal. to make a two syllable yeah liberal yeah liberal yeah just the messaging seems like i don't know what it's accomplishing because it's just telling us what the conventional wisdom is it's like you'll

never beat us you're too you're a democrat and they don't win in texas it's like yeah that's the conventional wisdom and we're trying to upset that but like i don't know it didn't seem like an effective way to like frame the race from their. You're not going to get a stadium of people singing along to this song. No. It's not going to work. You've got to shorten it. Yeah, you could probably pay about 20 plants at a rally to do it. And then people would be like, oh, people know this.

But still, they would have to have notes, and they'd be looking at their iPhones singing along. It just wouldn't work. Someone would need the pitch pipe to make sure you're on TV first. Come on, guys. Let's try it one more time. We did 32 takes already. Liberal man. You see? Oh, God, you fucked that part up, Eric. All on, guys. Let's try it one more time. We did 32 takes already. Liberal man.

God, you fucked that part up, Eric. And guitar playing-wise, it's not bad. Alright, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.

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Oh, damn. And he was a great violinist too, and he was just a really top-notch musician. And then there was another house I worked at, David Horowitz Music Associates, who I don't know. They must still be around. All these guys. It was really a fantastic place to watch. This would not have passed muster. I don't think this thing would have.

They're like, no, this is – Yeah, any ad agency would have said this is not a clean message. Well, that's because you're in New York City, my man. That's right. Texas, we, my man. That's right. Texas, we do shit different. That's right. We're cramming a whole bunch of words. Like mediocre jingles. Right.

Is there any sort of conventional wisdom or like some smart thing that you learned from the Kit Kat guy or anyone you worked with? Yeah, I learned like in the first day, I don't want to work in post-production. Even though I thought, you know, I really like that these guys have to write music immediately. Right. They get a call. They're bidding on something and they go until they can get it. And so I thought that was cool, having a bag of tricks, being able to write music quickly I thought was important. But yeah, I also learned that I want to be the director and I want to be the writer and I also want to write the music.

I mean jingle writing is – some prolific people have started off as jingle writers too. Like Barry Manilow did a bunch of jingles. I don't know that he started as – You know what's funny about – Blue Reed started as a jingle writer. Barry Manilow didn't write the song, I Write the Songs. Yeah.

Do you know that? Yeah. That's an interesting thing. That feels like a betrayal. Yeah. I know. I think like Neil Diamond probably did some stuff. I don't know.

There are a whole bunch of people but it's a technique, and those people really are good at it. So it doesn't happen as often. You don't hear like a jingle for a song. Yeah, yeah. Except for Ted Cruz. And by the way, Texas is the home of Austin with amazing musicians. Why don't you get those guys to help you? I think it's too blue.

It's too blue. Too liberal. Too liberal. Yeah. So we wanted to talk about MoviePass, you guys. So we wanted to talk about MoviePass, you guys. MoviePass is the sort of going-to-the-movies version of Netflix where you have to put on pants to enjoy it. Basically, you pay a monthly fee and you get to go to as many movies as you want at basically national chain theaters uh and you know i've heard from a lot of people that they you know use the shit out of this thing and like can't figure out how movie pass is making money um because it like what is the cost of it it's like really it's like a hundred

and something bucks for a full year it's like maybe 150 bucks for like a full year of nonstop movies. So that's like seeing one movie at the Arclight. Right. Yeah. Exactly. By the way, I'm a card carrying member of MoviePass. Of MoviePass. Yeah.

It was given to me as a gift by my wife. And that's like a great gift for me. But the way I look at it right now is it feels like Spotify to me where it's great for the audience and not great for the artist. Well, right, because everyone's like, what's the model? Because it's MoviePass that reimburses the theater, correct? Like when you use – Right. So basically they buy the tickets for you.

So AMC will be like, hey, we got 500 MoviePass users. You need to pay up for these tickets. And then they cut the check basically. Right. Exactly. So, yeah, that seems like a not great business model. Yeah. I mean, it's $6.95 a month. That's less than going to a single movie. So the only way it would make sense is if people bought the pass and then didn't go to any movies for them from a

financial perspective or so it would seem. But they have recently come out and announced where they're actually making their money. And it's where a lot of these applications make their money. Basically, yeah. No, they watch where you go. They're watching you the whole time that you have your application on, have their application on your phone uh so they just take in all this data about where they they know where you live because you have to send the card right leave from there to go to the movies uh they know where you eat before the movies they know everything about what you do surrounding the movies and essentially the idea is that they're going to be able to sell uh your data or you know package that data in order to cut deals with chipotle like they know right for

whatever reason uh you know which this isn't new i mean james franco movies do well with people who go to chipotle or some shit yeah they do yeah this isn't new at all you're right yeah yeah this i mean this is something this is what this is what is what Amazon, so I remember a guitar company that asked me to support one of their games or something like that said, hey, we want you to endorse this thing. And I said, why do you want me to endorse? And they said, well, we saw who bought the first version of this game and we got to look at all of the R and D and all the info from Amazon or something like that.

And their number one favorite show, 99% of these people, their number one favorite show is Metalocalypse. Oh, wow. So if you endorse this, and I was like, what's the thing? And I believed in it. I thought it was a cool guitar learning thing. And it engages you and gets you up on your feet and playing guitar. So that's how they found that out.

Wow. Yeah, it's true. Like backhanded research channels and stuff like that. I guess, I mean, but apparently it's all legal. It's all fine. But it's been going on for a long time and yeah i think movies are a a key sort of real like meat space uh purchase that a lot of young people make and so that's probably why it's so valuable is because you know it's a very typical date thing so you know it's a very typical date thing. So it's a thing that Amazon can't quite get its hands on because they're not selling movie tickets.

And so that's, I think, why they think this is so valuable. The CEO, Mitch Lowe, who was a co-founding executive of Netflix, made a presentation called Data is the New Oil. How will MoviePass monetize it? Wow. And basically explained all these different ways that he's going to be spying on you through his application. Not spying, just collecting

usable marketing data. Come on. It's not spying. I don't know. Look, I really want, I love going to the movies. To me, some people get massages, some people go to church. I like to be in a movie me, some people get massages. Some people go to church. I like to be in a movie theater.

Some people get massages. Some people go to church. I like to move. I like that. It's some – no, but I think it's the same thing. It's like some kind of a release. Yeah, like I don't know. Or some belief system or whatever it is.

But me being in a dark theater, it's my favorite place in the world to be. I don't care what I'm watching. I'm going there to be in this dark room to watch a flickering light. Do you go solo? I will. I have no problem. I prefer solo. I used to work in it. That was my first job back in Boston when I was in music school. I worked at the Sony

Copley Lowe's Theater and I was a ticket taker, usher, and seriously one of my top five jobs of all time. I've gotten to do some pretty cool stuff. Being a movie usher, to me, I loved, loved, loved, loved Karen Canister's film up and downstairs. Oh, right, right. I just – and that's what made me think.

I'm a musician. What am I doing? All I do is talk about movies. All I do is hang out in a movie theater and hang out with people at a different college that are studying movies. I got to do that. But I think this is a tricky thing. I don't know how this is going to work out because I hope it makes people go to movies. But I don't think it's going to – it seems like no one is going to make money off that.

And that's the same Spotify thing. So I know that as Spotify gets more popular, I see record sales not do as great for not only myself but my favorite band. So if you're not selling records, you're getting nickel – you're getting like hay pennies on the dollar. Right. And it makes me think, look, if people aren't buying records, why are we going to make them? Yeah. So what's the point? Is it all just going to be TV, Netflix stuff?

I get less excited when I see a movie premiere on Netflix than in a theater too. I wanted to see the Noah Baumbach movie in a theater, not on Netflix. I liked it, but I wanted to see that in a theater. Right. So I don't know. I think it's all kind of – I mean maybe it's just changed. Maybe it's the natural evolution. I don't like it, though. Right. Yeah. I mean, the way he's framing it low, the CEO, he's saying we're just helping subscribers make a better decision about what they do surrounding when they go to movies. Oh, okay. Yeah.

That makes sense. They said that they were like, this movie is blacked out for your market, essentially. That's MoviePass's decision. Yeah, that's MoviePass's decision. And they basically said, this is something we do every once in a while to better understand member behavior but essentially it's like they decided not to play ball with us and decided not to like spend with movie pass and so they don't get like people going to their movie it's a way of like yeah they're flexing their muscle and kind of making a veiled threat of sort of like right

hey guess what like we should engage in some kind of business transactions or we could also just fucking tank your movies through the – They also could have known this movie is probably not going to do that well. So this will be a good thing for us to be able to say, hey, we flexed on Red Sparrow and it fucking tanked. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. But also I would say there are probably two reasons. Maybe that's one – that's half of the reason. The other half is I think people are going to learn to lean towards more escapism.

If they're looking at a movie that's kind of mirroring what's happening right now with Russians and spies and all that stuff, maybe you're just like, I can't take any more of this. I think that's the way that you'd market it. It's like, hey, this is happening. We made a movie about it where people are like, I'm just

going to stay away from that. It could be that too. But if they are flexing muscle, then that's just ridiculous too. I mean, who knows for sure. But it's clearly them saying like, well, we definitely control a good amount of moviegoers' behavior. Well, it's the same thing with Blockbuster back in the old days with videos. They were able to censor stuff. Yeah. They edited out sex scenes.

They edited in sex scenes. Right. All right. And then finally we have a story about an app that has been developed for sexual consent called Legal Fling. Oh, good. Very clearly designed by people whose only experience with sex was through a video game. with sex was through a video game. It involves basically you have all these preferences and different things that you can mark off with regards to a specific sexual encounter.

So you consent to, okay, I consent to have sex with you. And then I can change that later if things like don't go well. But it's very much like just a thing that nobody has ever or would ever use. It's the exact same fucking thing as a Chappelle show. Skit the love contract. Right. Where Rashida Jones when they're in bed and he's like and initial here for oral. Right.

And then and he's like, I'll do it too. Because in this thing, too, funny, you can. There are certain things like certain parameters like condom use, bondage, dirty talk, sexting. So you can set your boundaries before. It's like – I did an episode of Metal Auclids about that too where – I mean it's part of the music world is you get backstage and you meet with a band. So we had a thing called the paternity waiver where if you want to get backstage, in order to get you have to waive all rights all rights so that and then buy and there's a death waiver too if you get into the by buying a ticket you automatically will release all like legal

obligation whatever anything can anything can happen and then furthermore there's a paternity waiver so one of the characters has like a hundred kids that look exactly like him different women all all around the world and it's there's no legal contract that's no there's no obligation they've waived all those rights that's awesome that's what that feels like right yeah i didn't see chapelle's thing but no it sounds like the exact same pretty much exactly when i was reading this i was like wait this is literally it's just the exact same thing except the 2018 version and it's in an app it just seems like such a misunderstanding of, I don't know, sexual behavior. It's such a gray, murky area.

There's also the potential for people to abuse the app too. You could coerce someone to be like, I want you to put this, this, and this here. And then you can use that as sort of some kind of defense of like, well, we had agreed that this was it. But who knows the circumstances under which the agreement is – how you come to the agreement. You totally lose the ability to change your mind after the fact. Well, you can. That's the thing is like you can live track and make edits to the – it's just so complicated. I mean, look.

I mean, hats off to people for trying to figure out how we can improve our society. But I don't know if this is going know if this is the way to do it. Yeah, yeah. I'm confused. Yeah. I'm very confused. I have a lot of things I could say that I would think would just put me in a fucked-up hole where I don't even mean any of the things, just trying to rationalize what's happening

behind that. Engaging with the same or opposite sex in a sexual way is – it exposes a part of you that you don't – you just want to get to the act. The hard part to do is to have a conversation about it beforehand, and this is eliminating that part, the intimacy part of even going, hey, what are you comfortable with? Right. Open up legal fling and – OK. Yeah, exactly. Oh, OK. Let's get our phones out and let's – OK.

Let's sync. OK. All right. I see you. It's mediating that. But I mean people should talk to each other. That's what we need is we need to be speaking about these things, humans and not. And have a clear intent.

Just say it. And if you're not into it, fine. But ask and move on. We need to be able to change culture that people can speak openly and not have to feel like they can't be honest. This is like more stuff where you hide behind your computer instead of engaging. Yeah. Right. I mean –

Verbally or – With Facebook, you had a guy who wasn't necessarily great at making friends, like creating a way for other people to legislate the friending process. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. legislate the friending process. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, this seems like a sort of an almost satirical version of that designed for sex. It seems like a subplot in Silicon Valley.

Right, exactly. Yeah. I guess it's like for the person developing is like rather than addressing the problem of male coercion, let's just make an app and let that do the hard work rather than being a little more introspective or having difficult conversations about it. Right. Exactly. All right. We're going to take another break and then we'll be right back.

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I'm all plugs. You're all plugs. All plugs all the time. So what happened? So last night was the two hour after the final rose because they just won't let us go. Right. He dumped the girl he was supposed to be engaged to. The girl Becca that he picked, he originally proposed to on Monday night in the finale.

Right. And because that had to take about a year to show on television. That was a three hour finale. Like I said yesterday, I had to be put to bed afterward. Right. Because I was so emotionally exhausted. That is longer than the Godfather. Yeah, exactly.

So last night was a two hour after the rose where the girl that he dumped. After the rose, right? Yeah. Jesus. I'm about to have like PTSD flashbacks. Can I ask you a question? Has he ever offered a stem? Well, actually, funnily enough, funnily enough funnily enough uh

here we go he gave her the rose and then when she jumped to hug him the top of the rose fell off from the original proposal which is that's how you knew i knew immediately i was like really i was joking but that's really funny so the metaphor crumbling flowers she ended up with just a stem and she was the likable one right and like she was the one who had a personality and he dumped her for b the one he dumped her for just doesn't have a ton of personality she just doesn't say anything a lot of what she says is wow that's the and then he says i love that And that is all their conversations. Wow, I love that. She says, he tells her like, look, they went on a date in Italy where he's like, look,

I've seen cheese like that before. And she was like, wow. And he was like, yeah, I love that. And then they proceeded to be like, nothing, looking at each other. Nothing. And then he fell in love so hard. Right. So yesterday, did he propose to anyone?

Yes, he proposed to Lauren B at the live show at the end. After he talked to Becca, they got some closure. And Lauren B is a DJ? No. Not at all. Lauren B is like a tech saleswoman or something. Bodak Yellow? Yeah.

It's like a tech saleswoman or something. Bodak Yellow? Yeah. She is a small, petite, blonde woman who seems to come from Trump-supporting parents who does not say much. So she gets the proposal this time. So the show starts. They bring out Becca, who he dumped. She goes through all her feelings. It's like, oh, this is so terrible.

Chris Harrison has the nerve to be like everyone's attacking me on twitter which is like i'll go wait chris harrison's the host guy yeah he says he's being attacked yeah he's like i'm getting death threats which everyone's like yeah you filmed a breakup it's fucked oh i see i see so he filmed a breakup everyone's like this is oh this is like the guy who filmed the suicide yeah on youtube right i get it okay yeah so people are just like why could you how could you do that and then he makes the bachelor the girl that he dumped becca justified that it was okay for them to film her oh so you could she was like yes i understand that i went on this show so i understand that really oh wow it was you know i gave up my rights so it had to be filmed and it helped me you know it helped me get past it you know what you signed up for right yeah right they made her justify it so it could make chris harrison

look better but the whole situation was just and it just came off like a hostage reading she's like yes i feel totally okay isis is treating me fine yeah and uh so i mean that guys that is the contract though you're into like – you're having your personal relationship filmed at any given hour. And they have – that's what the show – is that not the show? Yeah. Yeah. It is. I mean –

And we'll commodify your trauma. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And you agree basically the understanding is if you're in the final three, you will have sex with the bachelor fantasy suite. But you can turn it down. But they usually don't because in America you feel like that's almost like a currency

in a relationship. Don't you love me? I will sleep with you. And then a lot of the time he sleeps with them and then is like I'm going to dump you. Actually, never mind. One of them does get sent home after the fantasy suite. Yeah, they do sign up

for some humiliation something i found very interesting watching bachelor winter games where they had international contestants come in from all the international shows is a lot of the international people did not take the fantasy suite like one woman from russia literally said i couldn't look my mother in the eye if i went to the fantasy suite with you after this wait her mother was inside of the fantasy in america we're all about winning at all costs it's like look if you gotta fuck to get to that final fucking right rose thing then you fuck we learned that in japan on the bachelor the furthest they go on tv is a hug they don't even kiss like the final two will

maybe kiss but i still i just shake hands with my mother yeah okay i'm japanese anyway so they bring up ari to talk to becca after you know the breakup and it's very ari is our bachelor ari's our bachelor and they have a weird awkward like okay conversation which doesn't really go anywhere and ari just says everything is his fault, but then makes a hundred excuses as to why it's not his fault. Like the pressure, which is just so he, so it's not his fault. Essentially.

Look, any, any bachelor that accepts to do this in the surrender with a room of what? Like 40 gorgeous women. He will 26, 26. Okay. Let's say 26.

That's a good amount of women. Let's say 27 for the sake of this one. And, and, and also like the bachelorette, the same thing, they lose their minds. you're no longer in your right mind when people attractive people are talking to you like you're a god right yeah it's just crazy so whatever he says that what now what is he saying at the very end he says that well they all said you shouldn't have proposed if

you were that unsure and which he goes i would just felt so pressured like chris harrison was looking at me like people, people wanted it. I had to give them something. The ratings, baby. The ratings. That's basically what he said. But she was like, cool. Well, you're an adult man.

You can make your own choices. And so then. So she was still, like, mad and openly criticizing him? She wasn't criticizing him. She said she forgave him. She was very always. The whole season was very level-headed. And that's, I think, why people liked her so much.

Also, they started a GoFund me for her like fans she made up to like six thousand which she donated to cancer research on the show which i thought was very nice wait why go fund me because people were like you know what we're gonna send her some money for being dumped on live tv go have a drink honey go to mexico have a time of your life which she was like i don't need that money yeah puerto rico still needs electricity and running water. But anyway, let's send some money to this woman. Doesn't the idea of just GoFundMe sound like a dismissive kind of angry thing? GoFundMe. GoFundMe. Hey, asshole. GoFundMe.

I'm not going to go do anything. And then they brought on Lauren B. and Ari together. He proposed to her. Right then and there? Yeah. Wow, that's so stupid. They were like, we're having the time of our lives. Wow. And it was just so boring.

I love that. Yeah, and then they left, and then they announced the new bachelorette is going to be Becca. Oh, good. The girl he dumped. Oh, really? And then they brought in a few bachelors, like contestants, to meet her to start the season off. Mm-hmm. Well, that was an interesting group of guys.

One guy played banjo. Hey, that's and one guy brought a horse in which i was like you gotta stop bringing horses into the studio they shit everywhere do they bring horses in a lot it's a thing that people will show up in horses one girl showed up with a camel once i don't know where she got it so hold on hold on hold on yeah i'm lebanese is the horse one of the bachelors yes Yes. This whole guy is like, hey, I brought this horse because you always got to get back up on the horse, which I was like, take him out. He's not even a farmer. He just brought it in for the metaphor.

I don't know. He was from, like, Wisconsin. It'd be hilarious. He didn't even know how to ride it. It's purely for the metaphor. He's like, oh, God. That's the thing. He's scared of horses.

He got bust off the horse. In The Bachelor or The Bachelorette, I am so bewildered by how uncreative people are. Right. That is a funny joke. Right. Well, and then they were like, get up on the horse. And she's like, I'm wearing a dress. I just made her get up on the horse anyway.

Don't worry. We'll mosaic it out. Yeah. But, yeah. Only these thousand people will see it. Should be an interesting season. I really liked her um the most dramatic season yet yeah what a year i didn't know such a boring human being could bring such a crazy so the reason this was dramatic is he proposed which is how the season usually ends yes but they stuck with him through what usually also happens is after they propose and are engaged, they oftentimes will break up.

They filmed the breakup, which came after the proposal, and then had another episode where he proposed to the other girl. So it's like a big twist-a-roo is why this is different than normal. Usually people wait about two years to break up because if you wait two years, you get to keep the ring, which is usually worth like $200,000. Is that true? Yes. If you don't – Wait, specifically to The Bachelor? Yeah.

Or in just real life. The Bachelor, yeah. Neil Lane shows up, as we call it. The corpse of Neil Lane shows up because he looks like a wax figure at this point. And he's the jeweler, Neil Lane. Oh, got it. Infamous Neil Lane. He shows up like, let me show you this jewelry.

He's really creepy. He is nothing famous in this room. We do not know him. Sounds a bit like Smeagol presenting the ring. He comes out. We always joke that he's like a bat that wakes up and flies. It's just like, let me give you a ring. And then.

But it's 200K and you can keep it? If you last for two years. Oh, hell yeah. If you don't last that long, you got to give the you can keep it if you last for two years oh hell yeah if you don't last that long you got to give the ring back but if you last has anybody ever like broken up the day before like the guy was just like this is not working i don't think so you can last one more at least you keep it to yourself yeah or you work together like look i'm gonna keep the ring let's put the money i mean people will like die early for money. Like there's a thing where like at a certain point, the tax break for like death and inheritance was wearing off. And so like all these people just died the day before that. I mean, go watch Dateline.

People murder each other daily for 25 grand. Yeah. Well, 25 grand. That's good money. I know, but it's not 200,000. Anyway. Well, 25 grand. That's good money. I know, but it's not 200,000. Anyway. All right.

Money bags. I'm out here killing for 25 K. Yeah. I don't know. Thank you so much for filling us. Thank you so much for having me. And as you might not know, I do produce a show about the bachelor called,

will you accept this? Oh, Jesus Christ. Why don't you, that's going to be all that you do for us, for a living? Ethnically and big. And thank you so much, Anna.

Thank you. Great. So just closing out, we wanted to talk about two more Trump stories. The big story is that Stormy Daniels is suing the president just to get out, like not for money, but just to get out of the agreement that his lawyer paid her to sign one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. And apparently

he never countersigned. And so she is saying that she shouldn't be bound by that contract anymore. And that's what the suit is. There's also the fact that because like so his lawyer said that he just did this out of the goodness of his own heart but now it's becoming clear that that's not the case and therefore uh the payment violates campaign finance law uh so that there's that tied up in this uh so this could end up being a bigger deal. It's crazy. We're in a world now where this actress, adult film star, is suing the president, and we're like, yeah, but sure, throw that on the

pile of other things we have to deal with. Right. It's exhausting. And also, I think John Edwards got in trouble for something similar, too, but he never did any time. Those campaign finance law violations, they don't really take seriously. But as exhausting as this is and maybe some people think it's a pretty rinky-dink thing but he can be bought and sold you know yeah if he can be if he can be leaned on by an adult film star

you can be leaned on by an oligarchy or someone with a who he admires yeah yeah and putin also said he loves him today did you hear hear that? He had some good quotes. He was like, I think he's great. He actually really impressed me in person. I was like, I wonder why. Yeah. Gary Cohn has resigned. Yeah.

The White House brain drain continues. Yeah. Barely any adults in that room now. Yeah. Because he was like the one guy who just kind of was on the free market end of things and keeping all the protectionist urges at bay. But now he took off because of the impending tariffs that

Trump is about to sign. Which are not supported by anybody, honestly. No, not even Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan's going out against it, yeah. And even in his Paul Ryan way, which is like, I think we should reconsider that we do this surgically so there's no unintended costs or consequences. Does it not seem like every single major decision in this administration is made without knowing what happens on the other side?

Yeah. Right. Because apparently – Nothing – you don't know what's going to happen on the other side. Right. It's not plotted out. It's not methodical or anything. It's just you don't know what's going to happen.

And some people speculate like it's a move because there's a big special election in Pennsylvania coming up and it's a plotted out. It's not methodical or anything. It's just you don't know what's going to happen. And some people speculate it's a move because there's a big special election in Pennsylvania coming up, and it's a steel state. So he's trying to whip that base up by saying we're protecting steel jobs. But history will show you that that isn't necessarily going to bring the jobs back. So we'll see. We shall see. Because if not, it's a straight-up trade war and the EU is ready too. They're like, yeah, fucking try us. And a pair of Levi's are going to be $7,000.

Right, yeah. And then didn't like Finland already cancel putting a plant in Tennessee or something? Did you hear about this one? I don't know. Somebody in like Scandinavia said we had a $250 million contract to open up a factory in the south. Right. This happens. That doesn't – we don't put that there.

We don't give you our money. We don't set up jobs. We don't give you jobs. Hey, man. It's crazy when you have just someone with no impulse control just being able to say shit that has crazy world-changing effects. And here's the thing. I mean I think we knew this. We knew all this was going to happen.

There's nothing new to this. It's exhausting. It's terrible. But this is now par for the course. And we knew it from way before he was president. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like a consequence of not trusting experts at all and just trusting your gut, which seems to be how he makes decisions. And therefore, he's surprised when, you know, the thing that the experts had been predicting all along comes to pass. Again, going back to Facebook, he's a lonesome man who doesn't have love in his life. Someone just go visit him. Just be nice. Visit me. Just play catch with him.

Brendan, it's been a pleasure having you. Thanks for having me. This has been fun. Where can people find you? Find me on Facebook. There is a Facebook page that I do not handle.

But I do support it to a degree, but I do not have to log on to Facebook, which is fantastic, and I don't have a personal account. But you can find me on Twitter at underscore Brendan Small. You can find me on Twitter at underscore Brendan Small you can find me on Instagram at Brendan Small

and I'd say go out and check out this video, this short film for Galacticon Nightmare you can go to Funny or Die, you can go to Galacticon.com to find that and check out the Galacticon comic book it's really fun we just released the penultimate issue today

so go to your local comic shop or go to galacticon.com and check it out there nice awesome miles where can people find you oh just on twitter and instagram okay cool uh anna where can people find you uh you can find me on twitter at anna hosnia anna h-o-s-s-n-i-e-h you can listen to my podcast ethnicallynically Ambiguous on How Stuff Works. I just hate spelling my last name sometimes. Even I sometimes mess it up. Yeah, Ethnically Ambiguous on How Stuff Works. We release the show every week.

And listen to Will You Accept This Rose for all your bachelor needs. Can I say that Anna also produces the Baked show with myself and Steve Agee and all those great musicians we talked about, and also a new show with myself and Brendan Walsh called Brentudun. Yes. We're both named Brendan. We have a show where basically, come and check this out. This is a ridiculous show where we're basically, it's kind of like Kathie Lee and Hoda, but we're both, we do makeovers, we do healthy snack making, we do, we pull people out of

the audience, and it's really like a style and food and social critique. It's a lifestyle show. It's a lifestyle show, and it's out of its fucking mind. And come see it at the Lyric Theater next month. I was just going to say, we had to clean up a whole lot of cottage cheese after the last show. Yeah. I mean, it's a very healthy alternative to regular cheese. So please come check that out.

It's my favorite topping for pizza. It is. Oh, forget about it. Then if you think that's disgusting, you're going to love our show. Yeah, come check that out. The Lyric Hyperion. Yeah, first Tuesday of every month. Lost what now?

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the sources for the information that we talked about. That is going to do it for today. Miles, do you have a song you want to ride us out on? Yeah, let's just play a quick song from this band Pivot called Quick Mile. It's just a good vibey track. I think they're on Warp. Shout out to all the

whole Warp family out there. Alright, we will ride out on that and we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily show. Talk to you guys then. We've set the skies high But take the clear night We see the beach And we walk last

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