The Daily Zeitgeist - Mystery Jet Packer, What’s A Red Mirage? 9.3.20
Episode Date: September 3, 2020In episode 708, Jack and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by American Hysteria podcast host Chelsey Weber-Smith to discuss the red mirage scenario in relation to the 2020 election, DHS withholding i...ntelligence about a Russian attack on Biden, the killing of Dijon Kizzee by the LA County Sheriff, the poisoning of a Putin opponent, a jetpack sighting at LAX, and more!FOOTNOTES: Exclusive: Dem group warns of apparent Trump Election Day landslide DHS withheld July intelligence bulletin calling out Russian attack on Biden’s mental health Fatal shooting of Black man by L.A. County sheriff’s deputies sparks protests and questions #DijonKizzee , a 29yo Black man, was fatally shot by @LASDHQ deputies. Cops stopped him while riding his bike for alleged “vehicle code violation.” They say he ran, dropped clothes and handgun. He didn't pick it up, but cops shot him in the back 20+ times then left him for hours. Poisoning of Putin opponent renews spotlight on deadly Russian chemical weapon Feds investigate pilot’s sighting of ‘a guy in a jet pack’ flying at 3,000 feet near LAX Jetpack Sighting at 3,000 Feet Over Los Angeles Prompts Investigation WATCH: Chronixx - Dela Move (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So it's Thursday, September 3rd,rd 2020 my name's jack o'brien aka hey there
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I'd like to make myself believe
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that's a really depressing one
from Will at
Ultra Lantern I just really wanted to go
into the nasal register as early
in the episode as possible.
So thank you.
Get that vocal warm up in.
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Thank you.
How are you doing?
It's been a while since I've been on a podcast with you.
What's the latest in your world?
Yeah.
So we were in Wisconsin for several weeks seeing my boyfriend's family. Well, like self-quarantining several weeks seeing my boyfriend's family.
Well, like self-quarantining, then seeing my boyfriend's family, then now we have to self-quarantine again. But we were in Wisconsin when the shooting of Jacob Blake happened in Kenosha.
And then the wave of protests that sprung up because of that and then the murder of the protesters.
So we were fairly far a few
hours away when when all that happened but um we went to the town over shortly after because that
is where my boyfriend's mom lives and i don't know it was it was a i mean it's a horrifying thing
for that community to process and it's a swing state so they're you know it's it's having a
conversation with my boyfriend's mom um who is liberal but needs to have difficult conversations
had and then there's the difference of several streets over there's a q anon house so um i don't know. I felt like I had a lot of my having grown up in blue state privilege examined of, I
mean, there's certainly horrific things happening everywhere, but the way that this community
processed it is different because the politics are so polarized.
And so that was a complete mindfuck.
And then on the way home,
we learned about the murder of Dijon Kizzy,
um,
in South LA,
who was just 29.
I know we're going to talk about him later by the LA sheriff's department.
So,
uh,
yeah,
just a,
a wild,
uh,
horrible time and,
and fuck Trump for showing up in Kenosha.
So you weren't there just to see him?
No, no, I was like, Oh, wait, wait maybe we should hang around kind of see what happens gotta hang it was weird
we weren't in we weren't like next to kenosha um when uh the original uh when when the shootings
happened but we were there a couple days later yeah unfortunately when the shootings happened it could mean
many different things uh in kenosha yeah shout out to everyone who's like holding it down in
swing states uh because it just i mean it may yeah it made me feel extremely naive because it's like
yeah you like liberal state privilege is a whole thing. Like you really have to stand your ground in a swing state.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And even in non-swing states like Portland.
Shout out to Robert Evans.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined by the eloquent, the brilliant, the talented Chelsea Weber-Smith.
Well, I am thrilled.
I am super thrilled.
And I don't have like a satirical song to start with,
but could I pop in with a quick fuck Ronald Reagan?
Yes.
All right.
I like to come out of the gate hot.
So yeah.
Controversy, right?
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of people are going to disagree
that listen to this show.
Just kidding.
Yeah, right. I know. Revolutionary.
Yeah, we were just talking about how we need to get Ronald Reagan on the $5 bill.
Oh, yeah, baby.
Yeah. Oh, my God. Fuck Ronald Reagan.
Chelsea, how are you doing?, where are you joining us from?
I am in Seattle.
So definitely a liberal Mecca, but also like you said, a big battleground for, for black
lives matter and everything that's been going on.
And yeah, so that's where I'm at.
Yeah.
Portland too.
A lot of friends there, man.
It is.
It's nuts.
Portland, too. A lot of friends there, man. It is. It's nuts.
And you are a poet, a musician, a podcaster, a student of American hysteria.
That's right. Yeah.
Which, it's real, man. God bless you.
I had no idea how relevant the show was going to become.
We started it a little over two years ago, and we talk moral panics, conspiracy theories,
fantastical American thinking,
and it's basically like long-form essays that we do each episode.
But they're funny.
They're terrifying.
They're sad.
Lots of oddities of history.
But we try to break down
these fantasies uh through like a sociological lens like why does this happen not is this true
but what's the moment in history what's the moment in american psychology that sort of facilitates
these things spreading and and how they've always been kind of ingrained in us and come back in all
these new ways and the show is called called American Hysteria. That's right.
Appropriately enough.
Right.
All right, Chelsea, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we are going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about.
We're going to talk about the Red Mirage scenario, which is a scenario being put out there by some data firm called Fishhawk or some shit.
But they are funded by Michael Bloomberg.
And they think what is going to happen is it's going to look like Trump won in a landslide on election night.
And then as the mail-in votes are tallied, if they're tallied, it would switch to a Biden victory.
But we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about the Department of Homeland Security nixing a Russian interference warning that was supposed to be sent out.
We'll talk about L.A. County sheriffs murdering a man, shooting him over 20 times, according to eyewitnesses,
him over 20 times, according to eyewitnesses, for committing a bike violation and running away from them and allegedly punching one of the officers in the face.
We don't know if that's true.
Such bullshit.
Yeah.
We really...
Eyewitnesses don't seem to corroborate that.
We are going to talk about a prominent opponent of Vladimir Putin being poisoned.
about a prominent opponent of Vladimir Putin being poisoned.
We are going to talk about a guy in a jetpack casually flying around near LAX.
Or a person in a jetpack, I don't know.
We don't know who it was.
All of that, plenty more.
But first, Chelsea, we like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Well, I a few days ago searched Cotton Mather Dinosaur Bones American Nationalism.
So go on. Great. Beautiful. Right.
It's a really interesting story. We're working on an episode about fake news. And so we go we always go all the way back to the Puritans and sort of like what started these these stories. And Cotton Mather found dinosaur or no, not Cotton Mather. A man was just walking down the street and a mammoth tooth rolled down the hill, hit him in the foot. He traded it to a politician for a cup of rum and then cotton
mather who's who i call witch trial bitch cotton mather we know him the puritan minister who
facilitated the witch trials he took this on and decided that to reinforce his like scientific
biblical shit that he did he said that they were giant bones and then just mocked England, like mercilessly saying we have biblical giants and you don't.
And then it turned out that and then enslaved people were like, no, dude, that's an elephant.
Like that looks like an African elephant, you know. So and they were like, that's insane.
It's giant bones. So that's that's of stuff you can expect from American hysteria.
Wow.
Yeah.
Now, so the thing that actually happened was a mammoth tooth rolled down a hill?
That's right.
That's right.
As the story goes, hit a dude in the foot and he was like, this seems like something
important, but I just want some rum.
Some rum.
Yeah.
This seems like a good way to get some rum.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Reasonable.
Reasonable.
Yeah.
Absolutely reasonable.
The fate's reached out.
And then they, yeah.
And then they used it to like reinforce American nationalism by saying, you know, we're so
exceptional that we have biblical giants buried under our soil in england has nothing so it was a great
great little oddities like that i just i love yeah and then i got a whole book about it because
if there's some weird thing that happens some academics spent their entire life figuring out
how to uh how to encapsulate it for people that can read academic texts which is five people on earth so yeah yeah
yeah it's a lot of i've noticed philosophy was my major and it's seems like it's a prerequisite
yeah that's right uh i don't know why i know that about you yeah uh but it seems like it's
a prerequisite for it to almost seem like it's written in a different language, uh, a lot of the time to, for, uh, somebody to write philosophy rather than like make it approachable.
Right.
Uh, they, they make it as, uh, inscrutable as possible. were just like a nightmare. And I consider myself like somewhat able to discuss philosophy,
but it was like so deeply inaccessible that that's kind of what our show is,
is I'll read all these like deeply boring texts and try to make it so that
just anyone could interact with the content.
Right.
And I don't know.
I don't know why academia is so out of reach.
It seems really detrimental to the cause
that it wants to sort of touch, right?
It feels like some gatekeeping going on maybe,
but I don't know.
I wish I had taken a philosophy course at any point.
I mean, it sounds like a fucking nightmare,
but the classes I took were so profoundly pointless
that I'm like, oh, maybe philosophy.
I mean, why not, really?
I took a whole class on the television show Lost.
So kind of why not?
I mean, that's basically a philosophy course
because that show is so deep.
Because it actually really makes you think.
But what if they were in purgatory?
I did not watch that show or that that class you just you took the whole class
and got a b that is college that is yeah that's college baby yeah that's sort of what i was like
with philosophy i started like actually being interested in it like the day i graduated i was
like oh i'm gonna start reading some of
this stuff as opposed to just doing it as a means to an end I took philosophy and studied English
because the reading was quicker it was like three page reading assignments as opposed to novel length
reading assignments so it was pure laziness yeah Chelsea what is something you think is overrated
oh this one's fun so our next season three premiere is on true crime and how true crimes informed our society, which, you know, is going to be really fun.
But something I really am annoyed by is the idea that serial killers possess some sort of genius or intelligence.
And if you don't mind, I would love to share a Zodiac quote that sort of proves my point.
So, yes, thank you.
I appreciate that.
So one of like the big Zodiac letters that came to police and the media was actually not about like a cipher or anything like that.
It came on a card that said, sorry, your ass is a dragon.
And it had two prospectors riding a dragon with a donkey.
I don't know.
It's ridiculous.
And then he wrote, quote, ready?
If you don't want me to have this blast, meaning he was going to blow up a school bus, you must do two things.
Tell everybody about the bus bomb with all the details.
I would like to see some nice Zodiac buttons wandering around town.
Everyone else has buttons like black power.
Well, it would cheer me up considerably if I saw a lot of people wearing my button.
Thank you.
And then after he didn't see any buttons, he said, this is the Zodiac speaking.
I have become very upset with the people of San Fran Bay Area.
They have not complied with my wishes for them to wear some nice Zodiac buttons.
He was doing merch shit.
You're a fucking loser.
You're just such a loser.
This sounds like a podcast.
Right.
I don't like it.
They're like, wait a second, second fam why aren't you could you please
wear some nice buttons fam i sent you a free zeitgeist simpsons t-shirt why aren't you wearing
it yeah it's it's just like embarrassing when you read serial killer like actual quotes you know
because zodiac's like this mastermind and he eluded police. But really, he was just like a serious douchebag down in his heart, which, of course, we know. But like, it's just
the genius thing. And there's like Ted Bundy, who was just like ridiculous in court defending
himself and ranting and raving and just being, you know, an idiot. But then he gets this like
charming. I don't know. The way we reduce serial killers i think is is a
frustration to me and i think i and it's like i genuinely harmful you i mean to like glorify it
and also just because it's you would think you know maybe perhaps that people would be less
fascinated by them if they realized you know kind of how they're losers they're truly profoundly losers
true losers it's not cool to be a serial killer and you know also the whole serial killer panic
which of course is like such a panic because it's so rare to be killed by a serial killer
but it also really reinforced law and order war war on crime, rhetoric.
And a lot like the man, like the mother of Sharon Tate was a huge, huge influence in the victims rights movement, which on its surface is awesome.
And underneath also supports like very Republican policies.
So it's just such a complicated genre that we don't really truly dissect.
And I'm not like anti-true crime or anything like that.
I mean, I was definitely reading Manson stuff
at about 12 years old, you know?
So, but it's interesting.
It's super interesting stuff I didn't know at all.
Yeah, I totally feel conflicted
about my interest in that stuff.
I have this loose theory that the police basically talked Jeffrey Dahmer into claiming he was
a cannibal because he was arrested as Silence of the Lambs was becoming very popular.
It was almost like the culture manifested because he was just keeping victims' body parts around, which is very gross.
But also, he didn't know what to do with the bodies of all these people he was killing.
And so it was more of a disposal thing than anything.
But then he realized how much attention it got him.
And it's just so interesting to me that
silence of the lambs and happened and it was a national global phenomenon and then he was
arrested and suddenly there's this famous serial killer who's also a cannibal wow that's that's a
theory that i can get down with i mean yeah, you know, like John Wayne Gacy,
right? All the media showed of him was him in his clown outfit. And we talk a lot about like
the phantom clown panic that happened in 2016 and also happened in the 80s of, you know, all these
kids seeing clowns and them being horrifying, you know, stranger danger murderers. And it kind of
single handedly changed the way that we think about clowns. You know, I know, stranger danger murderers. And it kind of single handedly changed the way
that we think about clowns. You know, I mean, serial killers have such an enormous. And then
there's like Ted Bundy that all these fundamentalist Christians came to like at the end of his life
right before he was going to be executed. And they basically had a conversation blaming pornography
for everything that Ted did. So serial killers are used like so much more than we really consciously
notice for like nefarious means I think I mean I think my where my the first time I felt my
relationship with true crime because originally I was just kind of like in I'm like yeah this is
like whatever fun and there's all the examinations of why is it appealing and all that stuff but um
I think it was I was having a conversation with someone about i don't know one of the bajillion true crime docuseries there are
and they were like talking about it in spoilers terms and they're like i've only watched up to
episode two don't spoil i was like but someone was murdered like right but that but because that's
how the stories are like treated and formatted you're like, oh, yeah, it's just being treated like it's fiction, basically.
Somebody's making a bunch of money.
Somebody's making money.
Just think about those development meetings
where they're getting giddy about the twists and turns
of a real-life serial killing.
Yeah, like you're using all the same manipulations
that you would in a fictional text. And yet I watched so much of it right oh yeah i'm like i'm like have i stopped watching
no no i just feel worse about it but yeah right yeah sometimes that's the least we can do
absolutely yeah chelsea what is something you think is underrated ooh I'm gonna say horror movies um because
I think horror movies are like
I mean you've already kind of talked about it but
they say so much about
cultural anxiety and like where
we're at in the moment that they're coming out
and like the different genres
like the satanism genre coming
out with like the exorcist was
like right at the rise of fundamentalism
is like a force in
politics. Right. And then kind of was the kickoff to some of the satanic panic where people were
convinced that there were satanic cults all over, you know, harming children in all of these
sensational ways. And then there's like hillbilly horror. I'm really very interested in the shows,
interested in sort of like the maligning of white
trash. And, you know, the poor white person is like this kind of psychic dumping ground for
racism and people to blame. Right. And so there's like the hillbilly horror genre with Texas Chainsaw
Massacre, Deliverance and all of those different ones. And I think that it says a lot about
our relationship to the poor and how middle class
people, like, right, like deliverance, you have these basically hipsters coming in and
canoeing down the river for adventure.
Right.
And then it's like, oh, it's the poor white people that are like hiding in the hills,
which is a compelling and terrifying thing.
Don't get me wrong.
But then, you know, like I think Pennywise, the original Pennywise in the book and Tim Curry in it really encapsulated the dangerous stranger coming after children with stranger danger and really the satanic panic, our panic that our children are being constantly taken.
And then even Frankenstein, this is like, we did a whole episode called Monsters about basically how the language of the monstrous has been used against people of color, but
especially black people and how Mary Shelley's book came out.
King Kong, like there's, yeah.
Which one?
King Kong.
Yeah.
Yeah. Hell yeah's that's like so
overt right um but then like mary shelley's book about frankenstein was reprinted the same year
that um the slave rebellion led by nat turner which is one of the most famous of all time
happened and all of the language of frankenstein was used to talk about him like he's broken from his chains.
They use the actual language of Frankenstein.
And then when the movie came out in the 30s, there was all this racial anxiety from the 20s with jazz clubs and white women being influenced by black men and the whole black men steal white women trope that's been around since the very beginning
and the movie had like these two interesting parts where it was like again like the the
dangerous black man coming after women white women and children because you've got that scene where he
doesn't understand and throws the child in the water and And then there's also, though, this other line kind of like of liberal do-goodery, right?
Where Frankenstein meets this blind man
who could be colorblind, right?
And he teaches this hopeless, helpless monster
the morals of good society.
And so it's like this really interesting,
I don't know, I just think
we write horror movies off a lot as trash, but now we have like Get Out and we have Parasite and we have these incredible horror movies that that are addressing social issues. And now our villains are, you know, elite cults or and even horror and trauma with like Hereditary and the Babadook. And, you know, just it really tells something about where we're at.
And they're like our urban legends, our fairy tales.
You know, they're so vital to understanding culture,
but we just like to think that they're trash and, you know.
But really, yeah, go ahead.
It's pretty fascinating too, because even with,
I mean, even when a horror movie gets it wrong
in terms of the cultural anxiety they're expressing,
which they often do it's still
like you're saying it does kind of contextualize at very least the filmmaker's perspective but
often whatever a prominent line of thinking during that time where i don't know on the
bechdel cast we've been talking about this a lot lately because we're recording our
halloween month episodes of how often like you said hereditary and I think Ari Aster is a
huge perpetrator of this issue of like uh he just cannot write any anything in relation to mental
illness intelligently or well um he just fumbles it every single time and the opening scene of
Midsommar is like the most horrific misinterpretation of bipolar disorder
maybe in all the film ever uh but it does it is very revealing about who he is and how he
views people I don't know like and it's also a very common uh stereotype that he's perpetuating
there and there's a million examples of it that's one that like in the past couple of years has just like stuck with me.
But it is like revealing of like,
well, in 2019,
this was still a pretty popular flawed way of thinking.
And the way that like so often,
like monsters are differently abled
and just there's so many,
I mean, it's fascinating and fucked up.
And yeah, horror, it's like they really,
that genre really like lays it out for you for better and for worse it's like they they really that genre really like
lays it out for you for better and for worse man i love what you said about him because he gets so
like people love those movies and i just cannot i cannot and i read a quote from him because i did
i used to blog about horror stuff and i read an interview from him that basically says he just
tries to do the most transgressive fucked up thing it's not a direct quote but you know that that's his goal is to
make the most fucked up thing he can and I think that that is such a weird do some privilege yeah
thing to do yeah you know like I don't know when you're writing from somebody else's perspective
you can get in trouble real fast that you don't understand, you know? So I appreciate that.
Chelsea, you said something about the clown craze or the clown panic of a few years ago.
So I had seen a bunch of YouTube videos
of clowns doing or like clown sightings and stuff.
Was that all made up?
Because it kept me awake
yeah dude i mean like so i don't know did you watch the wrinkles the the clown documentary on
hulu no i just watched it i'm actually i don't know dude you know the the podcast you're wrong
about i don't know if you it's a great podcast but we're doing a crossover i'm going on their
show to do a clown episode which which is like so much fun.
It's one of my favorite topics to talk about.
But there was a guy, if you watch this documentary, that he made a sticker that said call wrinkles and then a phone number.
And he created this whole lore that parents were calling in to discipline their children with him.
So I think and it was all bullshit.
Like it was just sort of like an avant garde,
you know, whatever you want to call it, art thing. But then, you know, it's it's a hysteria
in that, like, if you think of satanic panic, like children, like most of these sightings and
it happened in the 80s to very similar. But of course, it moved much slower because the Internet
didn't exist. But it was all over the country, which is more interesting to me because it's so hard to spread those, you know, those ideas and those
urban legends. But yeah, he he did that. And then I think that, oh, what I was saying is, is, you
know, they all come from about seven year old kids. And when you're a seven year old, you know,
you can make up anything like in the satanic panic, it was like their teachers were flying around the room and, you know, they were being flown to Mexico and put in kiddie pools full of sharks.
And everybody took this really, really seriously because, you know, it was a time when assaults and sexual abuse of children was finally kind of coming to the forefront.
But then it went too far and everybody believed everything that a seven-year-old said. And as we know, I can remember being a kid and there was this whole
controversy where these two girls were chased by a man with a scar on his face. And, you know,
all these letters went home saying that this was true. It was on the local news. It turned out that
they just were going to be late getting home and They made up a story and it just got like madly out of control. I mean, can you imagine the stress of that? And then, you know,
and then I just remember being like, oh, yeah, I saw him. Oh, absolutely. He was doing this and
this. And, you know, I saw him in the woods. And that's just what happens is kids like one up each
other and then the parents find out or they tell the parents and then the parents take it seriously like men
were shooting their guns
just into the woods just
straight up into the woods because they thought they heard
a weird sound and their kids had said
that a clown lived in a
shack in the woods so there's firing guns
what is this a metaphor for it sounds like a
metaphor for something
oh I don't know it sounds like QAnon
shit to me that you know that's really
interesting uh the point about it was a time when you know it was being acknowledged that children
uh were being abused and you know after the 70s where it was just such a creepy decade uh in terms of, you know, like pedophilia was like a mainstream thing.
And, but like,
it just reminds me of the two prongs
of the QAnon thing where,
yes, there's a massive problem
with human trafficking
and sexual abuse of minors
that is being uncovered
with the Epstein thing.
And it is in the upper echelons of society,
but it's not a wayfarer.
But could there be anything more counterproductive
into addressing that than QAnon?
Right, exactly.
Well, and then you can just,
like what better villain is there, right?
That QAnon, you can't create a better villain
than a satanic pedophile like there is no thing that
society could more loathe and collectively loathe together so it's such it's such a evocative thing
to build a movement around because it's so hard to say oh well that's not happening and so it's
just this very oh it's just a terrible thing and And the upper echelons, of course, are just as guilty of crimes against children
as any other sect of society.
Like we act like this is, you know,
like 90% of childhood sexual abuse
is happening by people that they know,
that the child knows.
And so it's this other sensational thing
that's like, here's where abuse is happening
so we don't have to deal with
where most abuse is happening. And so it't have to deal with where most abuse is happening.
So it's yeah, it's bonked.
All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about your myth.
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And Chelsea, we like to ask our guest what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa well you know and i don't know if you guys have
talked about this i think you might have but just memory and what we think of as memory is so
interesting to me because it couldn't be a more like fallible thing.
And I think we think of our memories as set in stone, like they're filed away in a cabinet
and you recall them at any moment as if they are perfect and unchanging.
But really, you can implant false memories.
We know about that from the satanic panic and, and Christian psychotherapists that were really leading people into having these memories that
turned out to be completely false. But I don't know about you guys, but I have memories that
I know didn't happen. And they are so like clear and vivid. I have this memory of being shot at by
my crazy neighbor, which is absolutely untrue. But I remember it down to like the bullets
hitting the tree. And all it was, was my friends saying that it happened and me being like, oh,
yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, totally. But now I have this like visceral memory and it's a problem in
like eyewitness testimony. It's you can make things up with any suggestion. If someone said,
oh, I think he was wearing a blue shirt. You're like, yeah, I think he was. And it's, it's just such a dangerous thing to trust our memories the way
we do. And then we get like the Mandela effect, you know, where it's like, you know, about the
Mandela effect. I, yeah, we have talked about, yeah, I'm sure, you know, where an entire group
of people wants to like rewrite history to prove that our memories are right. Or they'll create a
whole story. Like, like, you know you know, that there's two universes,
which maybe they are.
But, you know, and so it's like,
we're so scared of it.
Yeah.
We're just so scared of our memories being,
being incorrect that we'll,
we'll kind of like write a whole mythos to.
For the handful of listeners
who don't listen to every single episode,
what is the Mandela effect sure sure
uh it's it's the idea that um at some point well the mandela effect to start is basically a group
false memory and uh it came from uh nelson mandela's apparent funeral procession that
everybody remembered that didn't happen because it was a mixture of things like they remembered
when he got out of prison and sort of like the celebration around that.
But really, like it's more about stupid shit from the 90s, like Berenstain Bears is the most famous
that most many people remember it being spelled Stein, S-T-E-I-N. Right. Yeah. And but then it's
actually S-T-A-I-N. And it's jarring. I'll tell you, it jarred me. It shook me, right?
Because it's like, I remember it being the other way. And then there's like, that, what, like,
the peanut, Mr. Peanut wears a monocle. Oh, no, no. It's all just all these dumb things,
little things that people remember differently. There's a great list of them. They're all
escaping me right now. And then the idea that there was a great list of them they're all escaping me right now but uh
and then the idea that there was a separate universe and some of us came into the other
parallel universe right where it's different yeah we switched over yeah so it's it's silly but it's
also weird because we do have masses of people remembering the same thing that didn't happen
and that's just super weird and interesting to me there's also been there's been some i i don't know how current it is but there was research at one time that
indicated like the memories that you visit very frequently are like become less reliable over time
the more you visit them of like every time you revisit a memory you're kind of opening it to
slight alteration depending on you know what was
your perception of the event how are you feeling how do you feel about it now like memories are
are right changeable in some to some degree which i thought was interesting there's a psychologist
named elizabeth loftus that i think i asked you when we first first met if you were related to her or if you were secretly her.
But she has done a bunch of work
on implanting benign memories in people's minds
like that they had been in hot air balloons
and memories of seeing Bugs Bunny at Disney World
and just various things that are just by mere suggestion, the people are able to really like put themselves, like put a concrete memory in their brain that never happened.
where people were basically asked about a memory immediately after the event happened
and then further down the line.
And the more they told the story, the further it got.
And basically if they added a detail
or something that was incorrect about,
I think it was the Challenger explosion,
that then became part of the memory
because every time you remember something
you're essentially retelling the
story to yourself
and you're adding all these different details
It's like a memory
of a memory, sort of
A memory of a memory of a copy of a copy
We in the Loftus family have done a lot of work
on this
The Loftuses Yeah, done a lot of work on this. The Loftuses.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, shit, this has been one of the most interesting
getting to know you sections of the show.
I hope so.
Now we're going to have to rush through the news,
but that is fine because everything we just talked about
relates to the news in many very interesting ways.
Sorry, I talk a lot.
No, it's the, you are.
It was amazing.
Like that was fascinating.
You are at the very heart of the things that I'm so interested in that we do this show every day.
Well, and that's why I loved Cracked.
I mean, you guys were such an early influence on the show.
I tried to work for Cracked.
Did you really?
But it's fine that I didn't.
Wow.
No, I'm joking.
I personally reviewed every application.
I've just come on here to just shit talk you.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.
It's a long con.
But it's cool to be here, you know?
Yeah.
It is a long con.
It's really cool to have you.
At first, honestly, Jack, when you put the red mirage scenario in the doc,
I'm like, is this a way of saying that Joe Kennedy lost?
So that is the first story.
And also the red mirage scenario.
Yeah, it's like the Pelican Brief,
the red mirage scenario.
But yeah, it's like the Pelican Brief, the Red Mirage scenario. But yeah, it's just a data firm that is kind of solidifying a description of what's going to happen on election night that we've sort of talked around.
Trump's votes on election night, like the votes that will be tallied on election night, will reflect a shocking, surprising, huge Trump landslide victory. And then as more votes come in
over the course of the next four days, I think they're estimating is going to take to
tally up all the mail-in ballots. It will switch to a pretty definitive Biden victory.
And I am unfortunately certain
that the mainstream media is incapable
of dealing with that sort of volatility
in any sort of measured or disciplined way.
Nuance?
Yeah.
Don't know her.
They will flip the fuck out
the moment it seems like trump has won and then trump will use that momentum to declare victory uh and then we'll have a toehold to delegitimize
uh the the mail-in ballots so this is a very scary scenario that they said they based on you know a bunch of polling that was done
you know together it wasn't just like their individual poll i think they based it on some
538 uh composite polling which is scary sure um so i don't know what to do about that other than just prepare and acknowledge that, you know, keep preparing the public for this possibility, because otherwise it's just going to, you know, we saw it in a very kind of minor way with the 2018 midterms where it was like, there's going to be a blue wave. Ha, psych, the blue wave never happened.
And then over the course of a week,
as more votes came in, they were like,
ah, the blue wave did happen.
We just needed to count the votes.
Yeah, it turns out.
Just needed to chill.
Right.
Yeah.
This is one of those many scenarios that are coming up
that it is much like the Postal Service.
You just feel so helpless in terms of like what is a direct actionable thing you can do about this.
But I do think that there definitely is some value in just kind of bracing yourself and understanding what the possibilities are.
And yeah, I mean, passing the info along because this I don't know what we can do to really stop this from happening other than understand and not panic when it does.
Right. But there will be an attempt by the Republican Party to use those early results to just sweep everything else under the rug. There's absolutely no doubt.
I think that possibility is being underrated by the mainstream media's reception of this kind of study.
They're just kind of being like, wow, that would be wild because there would
be four days in which we're wrong, but then everything will come out in the
wash and it's like, no, that's not going to happen.
They will try to invalidate any results that are different from what they have on election night.
Trump will be declaring victory for three straight days.
There will be a large victory celebration as the other results are trickling in, assuming this scenario happens.
There's a DHS warning that Russia is basically saying the same thing the Trump administration is saying about Joe Biden's mental health and mental capacity.
mental health and mental capacity.
And when this warning was going to go out to law enforcement officials
and more local officials,
it was basically withheld by Chad Wolf,
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolf.
God, these names.
Chad Wolf.
These names. You got Wolf. He definitely answers his phone. You got the Wolf. God, these names. Chad Wolf. These names.
You got Wolf.
He definitely answers his phone.
You got the Wolf.
Wolf here.
Wolf.
It's better than this is Chad.
Right.
Chad Wolf sounds like a character
that would be on one of my mom's shows.
You know?
Aye, aye, aye.
Okay.
Chad Wolf. like would be on one of my mom's shows you know yeah oh yeah yeah okay chad wolf we've talked before about the la county sheriff's uh office being implicated in just a number of white
supremacist gangs and you know yeah getting tattoos for killing us killing people, like just all sorts of shit.
Yeah.
They were two L.A. County sheriff's officers,
I don't even know the wording for that,
shot a man who they had stopped for a bicycle violation.
Which, first of all, what the fuck is a bicycle violation like this whole
yeah top to bottom this is just absolute horseshit and makes me so angry there's no third
who gets like it's just it couldn't be more mask off like targeting right according to uh eyewitnesses
they continued to shoot him while he was on the ground, shot him in the back, kept shooting
they say over
20 times. The
sheriff's officer's account
is that he had dropped a gun and was
going to pick it up, but even
they aren't saying that he had the gun
when they shot him 20
times. And they also left his
body on the street
for hours. Hours and hours and hours. After handc also left his body on the street for like hours,
hours and hours and hours after handcuffing his dead body.
So this is also,
we we've talked about how we're really seeing like the,
the cases that are breaking through are only the ones that happen on a video that somebody is like taking direct footage of,
of the thing happening.
Um,
and otherwise it's just like,
this is basically as close as we've seen to,
uh,
something breaking through without a direct video of it.
But I,
I feel like the videos we've seen,
uh,
tell us, uh, a lot about, you know, who's
telling the truth in these scenarios. So the name of the man who was murdered is Dijon Kizzy,
and it just like, it couldn't be more, I don't know. I mean, like the LA County sheriffs are
a gang. They operate exactly like a gang.
And it just is sanctioned by the law.
I knew a number of people who went down to protest
before they had even removed
the man they murdered body off the ground.
And there's a lot that's already been written about it,
but basically there's an overlap
between some of the LA County sheriffs
involved in this murder
and other murders of people,
including an 18-year-old just a couple of months ago.
And so it's not just the same department,
it's literally the same people
that are perpetrating this over and over and over
and then are just staring
protesters in the face and you know just blocking anything they were um shining i mean it kind of
reminds me of a lot of the tactics being used in portland they're shining lights into the crowd so
that protesters cannot get video of what they're doing so you don't know what's happening at all it's unconscionable that this it just makes me so
i don't know i mean a bike violation like fuck you it's it's yeah so like you said there's video
like we only see what there's video of and we also when we talk about police violence i think
people immediately think of murder which is a very important thing.
But there is so much violence that doesn't result in murder. Right.
There's so much violence that the police officers commit against black men and women that is never going to, you know, because you can complain.
But a cop we've seen him have like 20 complaints against him before he kills somebody.
against him before he kills somebody. And then, you know, and even even mass incarceration and all of these things that are included in policing that we also aren't fully talking about in the
mainstream. I know that people on the left are really interested in dissecting this police state
and all the things that that go with our justice system. But like you said, it's like we're only getting
like the tip of this iceberg,
this horrifying iceberg, right?
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And this happens in most scenarios
that are similar to this,
and unfortunately there's so many of them,
but what is the outcome of this situation?
This murder is being investigated of them but what is the outcome of this situation this murder
is being investigated by
the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department
so you're just having
murderers investigate their own
murder and so
what the fuck do you think they're going to turn up
we've seen it happen so many
times at this point
but yeah this was just
a fucking he was on a fucking bike like
it's just i don't know yeah um let's take another quick break and we'll be right back
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These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer.
This is Rip Current.
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Should we wake her up?
Absolutely not.
What was that?
You didn't figure it out?
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That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
This machine is approved and everything?
You're allowed to be doing this?
We passed the review board a year ago.
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There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
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And we're back.
And there's a prominent opponent to Vladimir Putin,
Alexei Navalny, who has been poisoned.
And one of the details that's getting kind of underlined in this story
is that they used Novichok,
which is a deadly nerve agent that is sort of Putin's calling card, I guess.
I feel like it's fairly common knowledge that Putin has people murdered
who are publicly in opposition to him. I found there's at least
direct evidence that he's had 21 journalists murdered since he took power 20 years ago,
and that's just subcategory journalists. So Alexei Navalny, as far as I know, was not
even a journalist. He was a campaigner who made something called the Anti-Corruption
Foundation who was
publicly basically investigating
the wealth of
Putin and his
inner circle.
This is information I'm getting from The Guardian.
His cello-est.
Where does the money
follow the money?
So yeah, Navalny was poisoned in his tea, I guess.
And yeah, it was just kind of revealed
that it was this specific poison.
And I have a quote from one of his associates,
Leonid Volkov, who said,
choosing Novichok to poison Navalny in 2020 from one of his associates, Leonid Volkov, who said,
choosing Novichok to poison Navalny in 2020 is basically the same thing
as leaving an autograph at the scene of the crime.
So this has just been such a popular use
of getting rid of the opposition.
It's, yeah, it's, I mean,
as we were talking about serial killers earlier,
and this is kind of, it's like,
oh, this is his signature move
that I think is used as a warning to other people
who are doing similar work.
So, yeah, just scary Putin news.
R.I.P. Navalny.
I mean, yeah, it's bad.
And this is a name that it's like you know who in advance is going to be poisoned or killed by Putin.
I knew this name ahead of time as the person who is probably going to be poisoned by Vladimir Putin soon.
Like that's a it's just so shameless.
Did he die or I think he's being treated or?
Yeah, I don't think he is confirmed dead
as of this recording.
So he was, yeah, he was hospitalized in Siberia
after drinking some tea.
Then he was flown to Germany.
He is not, yeah.
But there's no quotes from him,
so we don't really know what state he's in.
Right.
Yeah, and Putin has complained
that there aren't any cool buttons
with his face on it.
Yeah.
Well, I'm sure he forces everyone to wear them.
Right, yeah, there probably are actually uh just
fewer than he would prefer yeah a hundred percent button adoption uh is what he's striving for
let's talk about jetpacks so what over the story the weekend two pilots who were uh coming in for a landing at LAX spotted a guy flying
or a human flying
3,000 feet up in the sky.
To put that in perspective, that's over twice as high as the Empire
State Building. It's higher
than I think the tallest building in the world.
They both
saw this person and then radioed know radioed in you can listen
to the radio report uh where it's just uh they're like there's a some somebody with a jet pack
about 3 000 feet off uh up in the sky you know a couple hundred feet. A man calling himself Jimmy Neutron is...
Is claiming responsibility?
Oh, oh, oh.
I thought...
I have never seen Jimmy Neutron,
so I did not get that.
I'm sorry.
I apologize.
But this is one of those things
where it didn't make sense to me
until I really
thought about how high that is and how you wouldn't like,
you wouldn't be able to see that from the ground.
You wouldn't be able to see a person 3000 feet up in the sky from the ground.
It would just be like a tiny little speck in the sky that's one of the things
that i keep wondering is like why are pilots the only ones who are seeing these ufos when they're
flying around um and they're so high up and so comparatively small or can be so comparatively
small that i guess you just would have to be you would have to be in a plane
and happen to be passing by somebody flying a jet pack in order to spot them i this is
a good old-fashioned weird-ass story like what what could he breathe up there?
Yeah, 3,000 feet, you can breathe.
Science, okay.
You can breathe.
Wait, so he was just like,
was he wearing a mask?
Like, what?
He was wearing a clown mask.
Yeah, he was a clown.
A Nixon mask?
No.
Yeah, Nixon clown mask.
Oh, my God. I don't, yeah,
I don't even know what to say sure sure okay sure if that's
what if that's what he says then it happened yeah yeah i mean so the ocean is 80 unexplored
and 0.3 billion cubic miles of ocean the air is 1 billion cubic miles so we basically have no concept of what is flying around
through the air because it's just like so far away we wouldn't be able to see it unless you're
you happen to be passing through that portion of the air i guess is what this story made me think
about is like so it's just my skepticism about ufos has been like yeah but we would have seen them
and it's this story made me think more about like not necessarily because you're so far away from
them and you only have like a line of sight on a very small patch of the sky and only like
something that's very close to you well Well, if they're that smart,
they probably don't want everybody to see them.
You know, it's like the story of the Illuminati
where they're hiding in plain sight
and like putting all these secret things
in Justin Bieber videos.
And it's like, yes, they would want to be a secret.
UFOs would probably want to be a secret.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm stumped.
I'm stumped.
In regards to the jetpacks there's so earlier this year a jetman
uh a jetman dubai pilot jetman dubai uh which i think is a company flew six thousand feet up
wait if his name was jetman of course he has to have a jet pack. No choice.
Of the Dubai Jetmans.
But flew nearly 6,000 feet up using a jet pack,
but the flight lasted three minutes. So basically the problem with jet packs has been that you can't have enough
fuel on you to stay up in the sky for very long.
fuel on you to stay up in the sky for very long.
I think there was jet pack aviation, which is based in the San Fernando Valley.
So I'm looking at,
looking at them around this story,
but,
uh,
they claim to have invented what,
uh,
they call the world's only jet pack,
which can reach up to 15,000 feet in altitude and can be operated for about
10 minutes.
But I don't know, it's weird. I remember the story back in 2010 where somebody was like,
yeah, we've done basically those same or similar statistics where they claimed they could fly
around for 30 minutes and then people actually went and looked at them. It was an Australian company
and they could only
fly six feet in the air.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Was that like moon shoes?
Right, exactly.
Otherwise known as a trampoline.
Yeah.
Sorry, I'm interrupting with my excitement over moon shoes.
But remember they were like But remember No they weren't
The thing is that the commercial made it seem like
You were going to jump like 10 feet in the air
But you jumped like less high
Than you could
You jumped less high than you normally would
Moon shoes were ultimately a burden
Right
They weighed you down to earth
Yes A reminder of gravity It was a metaphor for something Ultimately a burden. Right. They weighed you down to Earth.
Yes.
A reminder of gravity.
It was a metaphor for something.
Yeah, I like that.
That's nice.
A Nickelodeon metaphor.
Oh, Jack, you've got to watch Jimmy Neutron.
I know.
I feel like your kids would really enjoy it.
Okay.
Is it PG or G? That is actually a distinction that matters that's a good
question i feel like it's super g i think it is g uh yeah and it's all the parents go away
so look out but then it turns out they need their parents spoilers good that's just what i like
propaganda yeah big parent uh jetpack aviation has uh their founder uh quote in this new york
times article the new york times by the way this wasn't like from the daily mail or whatever uh
they said honestly we don't know who's working on a machine that would be foolish enough or
reckless enough to do that um so they are claiming it's not them um no one knows what to do with the jetpack
that's a death wish man
going up that high
playing chicken
with a 747
seems unlikely
but I don't know
I'm no expert
oh boy
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find you and follow you uh you guys can find american hysteria on any podcast platform uh
and then uh we have instagram at american hysteria podcast and twitter at amer hysteria
so uh that's that's where you can find me, ChelseaWeversmith.com.
Mostly we do podcasting.
Music has fallen away
because all I do is read about Cotton Mather
and Ted Bundy all day, every day.
So yeah, I'd love for you guys.
Yeah, our show's different because it's scripted,
but I hope that it's funny and terrifying
and interesting.
That's what we hope. So it's different than the show, but I think it's got the same funny and terrifying and interesting. That's what we hope.
So it's different than the show, but I think it's got the same kind of heart and core.
Aw.
Yeah.
And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?
Man, I know this is cheating because it happened a bit ago, but I was in the woods for a little
bit on a camping trip and I came
back and my partner was like reading the news while I drove.
And, you know, someone had tweeted, former pool boy describes years long sexual relationship
with Jerry Falwell Jr. and wife.
And I came out of the woods and like I was so overjoyed at this news, like it filled
me with such just absolute pure bliss.
Because of course, yuck.
Not to this unorthodox type of relationship.
That's great.
Do what you want.
But, you know, while maintaining this ridiculous facade.
And, you know, Jerry Falwell Sr.
has always been on the top of our shit list
um on our show yeah just filled me with joy experience joy that kind of reminds me the way
you described that reminds me of jared leto be like being in his cult for two months and then
coming out and being like covid whom like the best that was i mean terrifying that he has a cult
but that news item was really funny
God I want to do an undercover
into that cult
what a dream
now more than ever
now more than ever
Jamie where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying
oh you can find me in all the usual
places at Jamie Loftus
help on Twitter at Jamie Christ Superstar on Instagram.
I'm going to shout out one of my BFF Julia Clare's tweets at Oh Julia Tweets.
It's referencing the Joe Kennedy defeat in Massachusetts this week.
So she says this is easily one of the funniest things I've ever read. And she's quote tweeting
a Politico, some really powerful
Politico spin going on.
So it has a picture of sad
Joe Kennedy. And then it says,
in losing his Senate race,
Joe Kennedy III has
freed his family from a political
burden it has struggled to escape.
Hey, congratulations
Kennedy. Which is so funny. It's like, oh, right right that was that he was trying to escape
it wasn't that a kennedy has never lost in massachusetts before this week and people
can't deal with it it's actually he was trying to escape and then hayes davenport replied with
a gif of the genies cups coming off oh it's just all that oh it's just funny
um yeah
that's all I have to say
ah poor Nancy Pelosi
rough I know
was she gonna clap and
she was hoping that her friend Joe would
come on the floor and they could clap together
for press oh well
a couple tweets I've been enjoying
people were tweeting this image of
jamal murray and donovan mitchell like hugging after this amazing series where they combined
to score the most points by a pair of players in a playoff series in nba history
uh and they're hugging because jamal murray's team the nuggets just beat the jazz and and donovan
mitchell's crying uh and joseph flynn tweeted mitchell sobbing i hate living in utah so much man
which i think is funny if that's what he was crying about uh and then uh barmelo's anthony
uh just tweeted i don't know, but this shit is mad funny.
And it's,
uh,
somebody put a out green photograph,
like the shirtless,
like doing the finger gun,
uh,
out green photograph over the W and Walgreens.
Uh,
so it just says out greens.
Uh,
and that is one of the great pieces of public art.
Uh,
I've seen.
So well done. God bless. Uh, is one of the great pieces of public art I've seen in a while.
Well done. God bless.
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