The Daily Zeitgeist - NCAA Owned, GOP Blames Poors For Chipotle Complaints 6.22.21
Episode Date: June 22, 2021In episode 935, Jack and Miles are joined by The Limit Does Not Exist's Cate Scott Campbell to discuss the Supreme Court ruling against the NCAA, the new covid delta variant, Trump wanting to send inf...ected people to Guantanamo Bay, the countries drought, a Federalist essay on Chipotle, and more!FOOTNOTES: Supreme Court rules against NCAA in landmark antitrust case With Vaccination Goal in Doubt, Biden Warns of Variant’s Threat Trump discussed sending infected Americans to Guantanamo Bay: book ‘Mega-heat wave’ is peaking in the West, breaking records and intensifying drought, fires A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time 'There's no water,' says California farm manager forced to leave fields fallow My Chipotle Bowl Just Got More Expensive, And It’s The Federal Government’s Fault LISTEN NOW: CANCREJO - JESUS CRISTO'S PLAN Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Were they actually drunk for that performance?
No, I mean, I was, well, truth be told, I was in a cover band
where we would play at the Kibbitz Room on Fridays in the early 2010s.
And that was a song that we would play.
But our lead singer was always drunk
so in my mind it's always through like gloria and this song where i was like
right there's no i mean the the vocal performances are famously uh like slurred and have oh is the
lord that he was drunk during that they just always felt drunk to me yeah i mean you can't
understand what they're saying yeah but i mean that's part of the art i i just always wondered what if that was real or if they
were just approximating it because then that would be real problematic if they had to if they like
got drunk for the recording and then every live show they had to like go through the motions of
pretending they were drunk they're like they ain they ain't drunk. Like people in the crowd.
It just sounds nothing like it when he's sober.
Right.
Stop appropriating drunk culture.
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member of the ground link sunday company please welcome to the show kate scott campbell hello
jack miles jack's in-laws. Great to be here. Everybody.
They are listening in.
Their ear is to the door.
Oh, good.
Hey, everybody.
I'm in a media closet.
Hey.
Stop talking to yourself.
I don't hear anyone else.
Oh, my gosh.
Jack, that Starship rendition was giving me some Jefferson Starship nostalgia.
Yeah.
A little.
Oh, thank you. We built this city on rock and roll is where I was going.
Oh, wow.
One of the great songs of all time, widely regarded.
It was just a quick A to B connection from your performance to that in my mind.
Oh, thank you.
That means a lot.
I try to evoke that song even in my podcast hosting.
So it means a lot to me that you were picking up on that.
Where are you coming to us from?
Well, you know, I am currently in South Pasadena, but I'm originally from San Francisco, which
is where Jefferson Airplane, then Jefferson Starship, then Starship, I think was the evolution
of that band's name, is from.
So actually, every time I drive up to the bay from L.A. and I'm driving over one of the bridges, I like to put that song on as a little return anthem.
Wait, so why did they become Starship after Airplane?
Did they start doing like drugs or something?
And they're like, no, this is a Starship.
Or like, because I remember, I just know that those are two names and i didn't you know i now i'm like yeah that's okay so they went to starship but what what triggered the starship
rock band in the 60s and 70s named after airplanes because that was like kind of a
you're kind of fucking with fate there a little bit because everybody kept dying in plane crashes
yeah that's
true that could have been part of it maybe they were like well we can't yet be on a starship so
right you know we like yeah they really respect technology they're like i don't know that's kind
of a big jump man say yeah starship maybe equal parts respecting technology and drug use smiles
to your question i feel like right right in san francisco drug use i
just i don't i don't see it in the 70s no i mean sly and the family stone great band from the bay
area too very straightforward very straightforward very not freaky at all i know grateful dead like
war suits and ties you know just uh very very buttoned up know, I've been told that I often talk about San Francisco and clearly I love to do that.
It's happening right now.
So all my friends are always like, Kate, you find a way to bring up San Francisco.
You're right.
I do.
Yeah.
That's like me in the valley.
You know, we're proud of where we come from.
Oh, yeah.
I'll like I'll just shoot.
The North Hollywood right there.
Oh, yeah. Raised. Oh, yes. Yes. from oh yeah yeah i'll like i'll just shoot one like the north hollywood right there oh oh yeah raised oh yes yes that is a rarity in la to be i know it is i think that's why and it's funny
because all of my friends who are locals like no one's in the industry like they all they're like
nurses or like therapists like do other things they're, I ain't touching that cesspit that like drove our families
up the wall. You're like, I am squarely planted in the heart. I'm good. I'm a podcaster. So it's
nothing, nothing like traditional media. That is correct. So, but yes, Jack, I am,
I'm currently in South pass just to, just to round it, bring it home to answer your answer.
Yeah, there's a depth to your background. It's very open and airy.
Thank you. I'm strategically hiding my lack of couch, my my very sparse furniture.
I've still, you know, filling things in.
OK, books on those walls. Clearly very learned.
You just are you just you
kick it at the table is that like your living room then sort of the dining table where it all
happens you know i do here's the thing i finally got i finally ordered a couch when i moved into
this place back in october i was like you know what i'm gonna unlock a new level of adulthood
and just get a couch like not gonna hand me down just like get a couch, like not get a hand-me-down, just like get a couch. I did that for the first time.
You did?
Yeah, yeah. It was a big, it's an investment too, because I was like, well, truth be, okay, I've bought
like an Ikea couch, but then they disintegrate after like four months or like four, you know,
solid sit down sessions on it.
And then this time I was like, I have to go and invest in my spine and back and butt and
make sure I have a couch that is ass-worthy for me to lie upon.
I think ass-worthy is, yeah, number one criteria.
But it's COVID.
It's taking a while.
I finally, finally made the decision.
But, yeah, I've been getting a lot of flack.
My friends are like, are you a serial killer?
And we don't know about it.
You just have books in your apartment.
Just doing burpees in your living room all day?
Is this a workout place?
You know, it's like you got a little built-in roller rink, yoga studio, cartwheel space, whatever you want to use.
Plus, when the heat comes, you're always able to just leave without a moment's notice.
Like Robert De Niro said in the movie he
greatest la film uh oh my god that's right that oh gotcha that's such a great reference yeah i am a
i'm actually a doomsday prepper is what i've been meaning to tell all of you i'm ready to go
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caught wealth redistributor by force wealth redistributor uh all right okay we're gonna
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specific location. We will talk about a Republican politician who was caught on tape within the past
couple of weeks, threatening to send a hit squad after a rival. And I'm just
curious if that's the new normal in Republican primaries now that QAnon is like a prerequisite
to getting a Trump nod of approval. We'll check in with the drought. We'll check in with the price
of burritos, courtesy of the Federalist. We'll check in with the Olympics and Nielsen ratings.
All of that, plenty more.
But first, Kate, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Ooh, so much.
I love a good Google deep dive.
One you might not have heard on this show before is Abraham Lincoln defenestration that was something that i i googled this past week
let me just quickly unpack that for you do you know the term defenestrate what that means
to get tossed out out a window right yeah specifically thrown out a window it's one
of my favorite words because it's so specific right it's like not just german yeah it's the
english language's attempt at being like the German language where there's like
a word for the most specific and dark thing in the world.
Exactly.
I always thought it was something like the medical term for being degloved.
Disemboweled.
Like skin-wise.
Yeah, yeah.
His arm was defenestrated.
I was like, oh my God.
And then I'm like, wait, oh, you mean thrown out of winter?
Okay.
Fancy.
Right.
It definitely sounds like something else it does nonplussed sounds like you're like unimpressed
but it actually means confused right jack just quick sidebar i'm so happy you brought that up
because i always want to use the word non i find myself being like yeah i was so nonplussed like
that's not what that word means you can't use it feels like it should be yeah yeah that's right change the meaning
that's right that's right so yeah defenestrate totally jack it's like one of the words in our
english language that is actually like very specific and doesn't have a billion meanings
and abraham lincoln fun fact i am related to abraham lincoln what okay yes l Lincoln's great, great grandfather is my great times eight grandfather. You do that math?
Okay. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, you know, growing up, it was always like a fun fact. And I was like,
read the story about how we returned the penny across town because he was so honest. And it was
just like a lot of anecdotes about how amazing Lincoln was. And I think for
that reason, I didn't really look into Lincoln because I was like, you know, I'm related to this
person who's like, you know, this like hero, what's that going to say about me and what I
have or haven't accomplished in my life. But I just started reading about Lincoln a lot more
recently. You know, he's like kind of been mentioned in the past year in the news a few times.
And I was actually very, very happy to find that in a lot of ways he was like a total mess, like in a lot of ways.
And one of the things that he did is he literally defenestrated himself.
He threw himself out of a window in a very public setting at the Illinois Congress back in 1840.
He was like a rising politician?
When he was a rising politician, which, by the way, he was a politician and then he was
a lawyer for a long time.
Like it took him.
It was a very long road for him, too.
Yeah.
Lincoln was a fucking loser.
Let's be straight here.
OK, we can all agree on this.
How long did it take you to get there, pal?
I mean, like, like come on what's later
than a late bloomer come on uh but yeah i mean that was one of the things where i was like what
what why do you self-defenestrate well so that's why i was googling it i was like let me get some
more facts on lincoln self-defenestrating. So basically, the quick and dirty version is
Lincoln was a congressman for the Whig Party at the time. And there was this vote. There's a
special session in Congress in Illinois. He was in the state Congress. And there was this vote,
Whigs versus the Democrats, to essentially, they was going to crush the Illinois State Bank. Whigs wanted to keep the bank. and then got essentially stuck inside and had to go out a window because he had like missed
his opportunity to walk out of the wow of the the room also i i thought this was going in a
completely different direction because he's like one of the things he was known for early on was
being really good at wrestling like that that was a thing that people.
My research has not led me to that yet, Jack.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
He was wrestling was like a big thing that people did, like especially in the military, because there was nothing else to do.
And it was just like, I bet you can't lick me, which meant like get me off my feet.
And because he was tall and strong strong he was just good at like
throwing people around so i thought he was gonna throw somebody out the window and once again
not for the first time in my life very disappointed in abraham lincoln it's it's like it's like
kramer-esque from seinfeld in a weird like idiotic way where it's like you you had this plan then
you're like oh fuck i'm gonna throw myself out this window like that's not a boss move Abe well exactly like it's flawed in numerous ways
which is like okay if y'all are gonna walk out like Lincoln just go go and walk out like don't
stay to be like haha like watch how everyone walked out and this is gonna happen and then B
yeah like you get stuck you just. You throw yourself out a window.
Also, he was so tall.
So someone was writing that was essentially like his feet pretty much touched the ground.
It wasn't even like that exciting because he was so tall.
You want to see like a rough landing.
It's like, Abe, get out.
What are you doing?
They locked the doors.
Well, then I can jump.
It's so, what am I going to do?
Bring this hay, bring the hay cart, bring the hay cart so, then I can jump. It's so, what am I going to do? Bring the hay cart.
Bring the hay cart so he can land on it.
But I don't like hearing that.
It's like, and his legs were so long, he merely stepped right out.
Like watching Giannis dunk.
Right.
That was not very impressive.
His arms are straight up and he just got on his toes.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's right.
So Abraham Lincoln.
Hell yeah.
What an adventure that search
history was oh my gosh truly what is something you think is overrated i'll give a hot take on this
i'm gonna say starting over like the whole glamorous concept of starting over that i feel
like i see everywhere it's like so and so's like splashy new chapter like blank slate like look i'm all for a good refresh
reboot change pivot like burning down what's broken zigzag but i feel like there's just like
often this built-in underlying message of like and abandon everything you were before or like
everything that happened before you know like
throw it all defenestrate it throw it over the window defenestrate your entire life right like
just to yeah just to like start fresh when in fact like can we just keep on going and like
yeah look at the like messed up stuff we've done, learn from it. Look at the look at.
Yeah.
Trust the like wisdom of being a human in the world.
Hopefully we've acquired some of that for years.
So anyway, it's just so it's not so much maybe the starting over, but like everything that
came before it should be forgotten kind of thing.
Like, you know, we've seen how on a bigger level that's problematic.
And certainly I think on a personal level that's problematic. And certainly, I think on a personal
level, it can be too. I think that's a great point. I think we love the idea of somebody who
starts over in a completely new direction and has success. I think one of the big icons of this is
Colonel Sanders because he didn't like start selling fried
chicken until really late in his life. But that was all part of like he was he had a lifetime of
failure, like trying to sell different things. So it's not like he was just like, OK, and I'm
going to recreate myself as this fast food pitchman. It was just like,
that was another thing he was trying.
He was just continuously trying to succeed at selling people shit and making
money.
I'm like accidentally stumbled on this thing,
but we want the story to be,
it's never too late.
Like this person,
Alan Rickman didn't play Hans Gruber until until like late in his life it's like yeah
but he was one of the best stage actors in the world up to that point like yeah i mean sam
jackson's like that too i mean like he was a drug addict and he got over his addiction and then began
acting very late in life and look at him like that's when you're like yeah that that's a that's
a bit of a turnaround but i think to your point of like this whole idea of starting over yeah you sort of cheapen the human experience of just growth and you looking at
whatever you do through the lens of growth versus like it being good or bad or a mistake or something
that needs to be torn down or whatever i mean like sure you make mistakes or you have ideas or
personal philosophies that don't serve you any well but you iterate on that and you grow build, you know, your life is just about building on top of all those things rather
than like clear the deck and then start over. I think you want to value the fact that we're all
in a process called growth. Yeah, I love that. And I think, you know, to both of your points,
like you often find, even if it feels like you're doing a total, like on a personal level, a total career change, life change, whatever. I often just see,
I've seen it in my own life and with friends that like, actually the exact things you need to do the
new thing you've kind of like backed into by doing all the other stuff. It's just kind of hard to
know when you're doing that, you know? But you can just, you can pull, there's a lot of gold that I think can so easily just get thrown out instead of being like, oh, let me pull that into this cool application, like this new way of doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your life experience, the thing you've been most into up to this point is using drugs or like substance abuse. That's a good thing to start over on. And a lot of people like when they kick that or, you know, are in recovery, find a lot of success. But they also a lot of the time we'll talk about how that failure is a huge part of their success, right? Like all the failures, like actually embracing the dark parts as opposed to, I think in America,
we tend to like this idea of,
you know, this person just stays winning.
They're just like always, you know,
it's victory after victory.
And, you know, they're just pulling themselves up
by their bootstraps.
And it's like, well, no, you have to you have to be willing to embrace the darkness and the bad parts.
Yeah, a thousand percent.
And often like right in the what is that quote that I think is subscribed or attributed to Joseph Campbell that what something about in the cave lies the treasure you seek.
Like often the the dark stuff is you know hopefully that's been the
what's also been helping you build and learn and grow all the stuff right i think it's the
night is always darkest before the dawn is that oh sorry that was a harvey uh yeah
which isn't true i don't think that can't be true, right? I mean, yeah.
Because it's nighttime and then essentially it does have to be at its darkest point to then transition to the light.
Sure.
But wouldn't it be?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely before at some point because they're coming out of the night.
But not like immediately before.
There's like a whole sunrise thing that has to happen.
Anyway. That's right i feel like it's both highly optimistic and i feel like really daunted by it at the same time which is i think yeah true for a lot of adages right yeah what
is something you think is underrated you've got mail the 1998 romantic comedy. Now, hold on. Before you close this recording session, stay with me.
That's been plenty.
Thank you.
Stay with me.
You're both like, wow, Kate was cool.
And now, complete point of view change.
You've got mail.
The 1998 rom-com, yes, starring Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks,
but more notably, guest starring Dave Chappelle, Greg Kinnear, Parker Posey, Steve Zahn.
Here's the thing about this movie. When I was a kid, when I was in high school, I got my wisdom teeth taken out. My dad rented all these VHS tapes for me to watch when I was recovering.
And I kept going back to that movie, not sure why. And then that kept happening.
Like it's a movie I've seen a bunch of times.
But I have to tell you, I have met so many people who are the last person you would expect to like that movie.
And like a very dear friend of mine who's an incredibly, he's from Queens, incredibly
talented rapper, artist.
I was like, one day we were hanging out. I mentioned
a line from that movie, just like not even thinking about it. He's like, oh yeah, yeah,
I love that movie. And I was like, what? You love that movie? Recently, a friend who's an
installation artist, like just like very like artist person was like, I love that movie. And
my husband is like, you shouldn't like that movie. And she was like, I know. Like, I know I shouldn't like that movie.
Like, it goes against everything that I am.
But I don't know.
You know, a friend, another friend of mine told me
that he had done a breakdown of the script of that movie
and it's like perfectly symmetric.
So I have this theory that it's just like a weird calming mechanism
for my brain to watch that movie.
Like the way that symmetry, things that symmetry can be.
Anyway, I also just
have to say the supporting cast is amazing.
Chappelle is fantastic. Greg Kinnear
is so subtle. You don't even realize
he's acting. He's so good.
And the little kid who's his brother saying
F-O-X.
Miles,
thank you. I'm there
too, Kate. You know, the devil knows his own and uh
yeah i know i mean like i i've watched that movie a lot more than i care to tell people that i have
because also like when you start watching like yo the plot will also i think the plot holes like
sort of like i'm like hold on you haven't figured out who you are to each other quite yet. This feels a little like very unrealistic, but not to the point where I'm like, I'm done with this.
I don't know what it is, if it's like the aesthetic of like late 90s New York and like that could be a big part.
Like mega stores aren't still a thing.
So like you're like, oh, right.
Yeah, this is cool.
And like people are on their weird little apple
laptops and shit yeah politically it's weird because it's like barnes and nobles is taking
over and that's just what happens they're just like yeah but we still love them we still love
them the moral is a little odd now but i think when you in a vacuum i'm like i feel the same
way like there's something yeah to your point kate i feel
like plot holes and things that are like the moral is weird like that's almost a testament to the
spell of the movie like that's what christopher nolan makes movies that are just like riddled
with plot holes but it's like i feel like that's him showing off that he can like spin this web of
like movie magic that we just like won't notice them and like yeah i feel like that's a good
example of a movie that we should have hated and when we re-watch it now we should be like well
this isn't good because this is like a love story in which uh sam Walton like sneakily seduces like a local like mom and pop store owner.
Yeah.
But it just works because it's Tom Hanks, obviously, and Meg Ryan, obviously, but also just like a really well done movie.
I feel like it's the new love.
Like Love Actually for a while was the movie that like a lot of really like very smart people
were like no it's actually great and i i would disagree with them but then when you watch it
you kind of get it i feel like that we're having that moment for you got mail yeah i think just
such great points and it's making me think about you know because it's also like it's a movie that
i've watched over so many years and to your point about like the moral issues of like a thousand percent, you know, it's making
me think like, well, what is it about that movie? I also think it's Nora Ephron, you know, who wrote
and directed it and and and actually was not like if you read her essays, she was she was very
feminist. Like she was not, you know, sort of like sugary rom-com person at least it didn't
seem like it so i think some some of that must be a play yeah it's a little bit of an enigma that
movie but uh yeah but worth worth i like one fine day over you've got mail personally but
oh my god i actually recently re-watched that on hulu miles and the opening scene of that like
to your point about nostalgic new york like it's raining it's a brownstone you can see in all these warm glowy
windows you're like wrap me up in this blanket you know i know and maybe like i was so confused
watching that movie growing up in la my whole life i'm like how do these schools work and like
they walk across town to shit i'm like no this is, this is, this has to be made up. Like, I don't know what the fuck this is.
This is magical fairy tale bullshit.
And this guy's in Barbados.
Who?
B-A-R-B-A-D-O-S.
I just remember so many wild lines from that film.
I don't remember that movie at all.
Like that didn't even.
Yeah.
George Clooney,
Michelle Pfeiffer.
It's a,
it's a deep cut jack like it's a little
mayonnaise from arrested development as a child yeah oh really that's right yeah yes yes a thousand
maybe that'll be the next one that has a like second life in the in the zeitgeist god i feel
like i have to do a whole like just soul deep dive of if you've got mail. I just like what is it about these things?
I don't know. Also, too, if it maybe harkens back to a like when I think of when I saw it and I was truly like I had no responsibility.
And so this like these films are like glimpses into like, oh, yeah, like I don't know, like the economy seems good enough in these films.
Like maybe it'd be an adult isn't that bad. oh yeah like i don't know like uh the economy seems good enough in these films like maybe
it'd be an adult isn't that bad and then you're like this isn't like one fine day or like anything
i saw it's like mad max now yeah nothing about it is real yeah except for the yeah sam walton
like the bookstore is the only real part is like dark as fuck like i feel very conflicted about
because my my mom is a librarian.
Like I grew up supporting independent bookstores.
Like I actually feel deeply conflicted about it.
And yet I just share that I believe that it's underrated.
So there's some more soul searching to do there.
Yeah, yeah.
You're like, yeah, I don't know what it is about it.
My mom's a librarian.
My dad is the CEO of Barnes & Noble.
And they lived happily ever after.
I just don't get it.
What does it mean?
Yeah.
He bought a house next to this library,
claimed eminent domain,
demolished it,
and then built his first store.
It was cool.
I know.
Like Dabney Coleman shows up,
Gene Stapleton still.
Like what?
What's happening?
I also have a brother who's three.
And a grandfather who's six.
Yeah, a grandfather who's six.
Wait, what the fuck?
It's a modern American family.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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podcast and we're back and we've been talking for a while i think we've been talking for a while. I think everybody has been talking for a while about how just the existence of the NCAA, where they are the cops who make sure that student athletes who make it them and institutions billions of dollars aren't ever compensated for their work.
Like, that seems a little funny.
Right. their work like that seems a little funny right and then yeah the so the supreme court issued a
ruling today that just felt like one of those moments where you've been living inside a certain
brand of insanity for your entire life and suddenly someone who hasn't really been paying
attention comes through and is like what the fuck are you even talking about like what
it's just like so uh so they did they did not mince words here this is just the supreme court
pretty thoroughly owning the fuck out of the you know the ncaa the what what a lot of people have
called the modern equivalent of like the plantation system. So and they've been reigning supreme with this same logic since there were like all white basketball teams. And let's just read directly from Brett Kavanaugh's. I guess it was not the official ruling. It was like this. He was seconding it like a hype man and really brought the energy like a hype man.
He said, the NCAA couches its arguments for not paying student athletes in innocuous labels,
but the labels cannot disguise the reality. The NCAA's business model would be flatly illegal
in almost any other industry in America. All of the restaurants in a region cannot come
together to cut cooks' wages on the theory that, quote, customers prefer to eat food from low-paid
cooks. Law firms cannot conspire to cabin lawyer salaries in the name of providing legal services
out of a, quote, love of the law. Hospitals cannot agree to cap nurses' income in order to create a,
quote, purer form of helping the
sick news organizations cannot join forces to curtail pay to reporters to preserve a quote
tradition of public-minded journalism and he keeps going more examples more examples but they're all
like yeah that makes absolutely movie studios cannot collude to slash benefits to camera crews to kindle a, quote, spirit of amateurism in Hollywood.
And like those are direct quotes from like the main tenants of the NCAA's argument that like, you know, there's a long tradition.
We're trying to create a spirit of amateurism.
Fans prefer that.
Right.
The fans prefer it.
It's a pure form of like athletic competition and it's just
like yeah man that doesn't that doesn't make any sense yeah yeah and especially like when people
would get in trouble for even getting a whiff of money they're like all right asshole you're out
get out of here what are you making money off of your likeness because you are a star athlete and no one's paying
you anything uh well i'm glad to see that this is finally you know changing or like something
happened but this was feels like such a long time coming that it's wild to even think that this is a
right 2021 that now we're we got brett kavanaugh writing these just wonderful wonderful uh
comparisons totally i'm still stuck on all of those restaurants law firms hospital like i feel Kavanaugh writing these just wonderful, wonderful comparisons.
Totally. I'm still stuck on all of those restaurants, law firms, hospital.
Like, I feel like I'm in Paperboy, like driving by these different parts of the neighborhood. And he's just like listing them one at a time.
Yeah. I mean, it's clearly based on like his vision of, you know, small town america and i don't know this might be one of those situations where like
arch conservatives come around to being right on certain things and i think this is yeah because
i mean how do you argue that too i mean like on some like but but who knows they're probably gonna
have a business decision where they're like chipotle actually can pay the people whatever they want based on the vibes of the customers like what they're like yeah i'm i'm fully on the side of mcdonald's
for this and you're like well hold on just a second ago you were like you gotta oh sure but
yeah you like to see it it's i like the how unequivocal it is and just you know destroying
their arguments yeah yeah totally one of our writers back at Cracked
brought us an article about, like,
just the most withering, like,
owns in the history of Supreme Court decisions.
And they're really funny and, like, super sarcastic.
A lot of them seem to be from, like,
modern conservative ones
because I think they have, like,
such a finely honed sense of moral
outrage and like fixed opinions that they're just like dicks uh which kind of scans but this one
at least this one time seemed to be absolutely earned and on the right side of history so can
what do you can you start cutting athletes checks like how do they how are they now
meant to benefit from this yeah so they're saying that this is kind of a limited decision but the
language it indicates that the ncaa is pretty fucked because they are they use this language
on this very narrow ruling to indicate to congress and the executive branch, like, look, this is what we think.
If you guys don't come up with solutions to these problems,
we're going to have to rule.
And then when the courts are out of step with the laws,
it's a mess.
So this is them being like, hey, get your shit together.
This is illegal.
Like, start passing laws that make it so
yeah being very clear about it yeah yeah yeah make it so let's let's see some back
some back wages paid to uh the last 40 years of ncaa athletes maybe uh Double athletes. Maybe. We don't have any money. I don't.
We only have a $13 billion endowment.
Like, yeah.
Elena Kagan's like, please stop crying.
It's in the court.
Someone's going to defenestrate themselves.
Yeah.
Yes.
Right.
But only from a first floor window.
Yeah.
Yeah. They're not about that Abe life.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's talk about the thing we've all had in the back of our mind.
Are we going to get free Budweiser products on the 4th of July?
Miles, what is the status of it?
We're utterly fucked.
We are.
We're not even close to getting the vaccination rates that we need by the 4th of July to get those sweet, free swill beers that we have come to love in this country.
Now, despite all of like the incentivizing and things like that, we are we're short.
You know, Biden wanted 160 million people fully vaccinated and 70 percent of the country with at least one shot by 4th of July.
And with where we're at, like, you know, just over 13 million people who still need to get a shot to
like reach those numbers, we would essentially have to be we would have to double the current
vaccination rates that we have to reach that goal in time. And, you know, it's a little disheartening,
especially when you look in places like Missouri, you know, it's a little disheartening, especially when you
look in places like Missouri, where the Delta variant is beginning to take hold in that state.
There's a reason why we're we want to vaccinate. We want to be vaccinated to protect ourselves
from these variants and to also slow the spread, because we talked about this a couple of weeks
ago is the numbers are so low in the South. Even if you're in an area that
is at 70%, that doesn't mean that all of these, there's a ripple effect that can occur from the
lack of immunity or herd immunity in places that will very much completely destabilize things.
And we can be looking at lockdowns again. So vaccination numbers are so low in the South,
right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I know like right now in like louisiana they're like hey man you want a million bucks like they i mean i'm sure on some level the
government realizes too what it means like aside from the rhetoric of just being like well you oh
you to listen to these doctors and these libs tell you to get a shot that even the people who run the
states who are conservatives know if your customers aren't healthy you can't have a business
if your workers aren't healthy you can't have a business and i think you know for whatever reason
maybe that's what's motivating them to try and do things but it's just such a it's such a fucking
american thing that we're in now like on top of having these vaccines that other parts of the
world are begging for there's all these people like nah i'm not gonna take it fuck it yeah it's gonna see wait and see wait and see uh yeah and
it's just not a it's just a alarming trend to be looking at because yeah you hope that even with
these low numbers like we can somehow maybe maintain you know the public health uh that
we're looking for we were flying there for a a while in terms of the rate of people getting vaccinated,
but then... It felt like it.
Yeah, it seems like we hit the
max
of people who believe in science,
which is apparently 60%
of Americans. And then
from there, it was just like,
well, how are you going to get these people
who don't want to get vaccinated?
It's just completely different.
I mean, the thing is, I know people who are just scared.
Like, they believe in science, but they can't, for whatever reason in their minds,
it's a situation where I've heard two versions.
One is, well, what if a more lit vaccine comes out in the future?
Like, I don't want to buy PS5 when ps6 is coming out three months later that's kind
of like a classic reason to not get something right like there could be something better this
vague right it could be better that's one version and then i see i feel like there's a lot of the
wait and see type which are like you know i some like a friend of mine was like fuck well i want
to lose laker game i guess i should get vaccinated like and that did it more than like yeah i want to get it for my own health or my own safety or the safety of the
people around me because i'm like well i don't want to be excluded from the lakers game so shit
like here we go but it was never like a i think it's also about like these you know a lot of people
in these information deserts too where if you don't really talk if you don't read the news or
anything you're at the mercy of whatever
your co-workers or peers are talking about all the time and if that and if you got bum takes coming
out of that crew like hey i don't i can't i can't imagine uh what direction you'd be going in but
that's why i like regularly try and assure people i know it's like it's please don't be scared you
know what i mean please don't there's not if there's a litty one around the corner then you can get the litty one too but for right now let's try and let's let's keep our
safety in the front of our minds is it the needles do we think like are they one person i know i know
needle person i know a few people who have are not like anti-vaxxers like in the sense that they
completely say like do you know what they're gonna do do you know what can happen to you it's like
i honestly hate needles so much and i don't even leave the house yet.
So I don't feel like I need it quite yet or, you know, or that other stuff.
Yeah. To those people, if they're any listening, I mean, when I got the vaccine, I could hardly
feel it. And I remember saying to the person who gave me, I think it was the second shot.
I was like, wow, I didn't even feel it. And he was this USC farm student.
He's like, yeah, the needles are so small on these.
They're so good.
Yeah.
That you, you know, you really don't.
So I was bracing myself for my arm to be sawed off when I got my first one.
I was like here.
Cause I was one of those kids who would like melt down at the doctor's office.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, i fucking hated that shit
or i'd be like and my mom would like bribe me she's like you can eat like nine pounds of ice
cream after this like just sit still and i remember bracing myself and be like fuck it here we go
and i was like huh are you what and i was like i was like shout out to you
the nurse practitioner for that. That was suave.
It was good, right? You know, Miles, you bring up such an interesting point of the varied psychology of all of it. I mean, really like, and there's, you know,
from a marketing perspective, there's reptile brain shit happening where you're just like,
I got to get to that reptilian part of someone's brain that even if they're not an anti-vaxxer,
they just don't want to do it or something's blocking them or whatever it is. It could be one of many things. And so,
yeah. How do you psychologically appeal to this diverse set of reasons? I think your point to
talking with people around you, I mean, that's always a great solution, right? For so many things
that we're talking about. Yeah. And I think just the other thing is just like hearing people like express what they're saying.
Like I can be much more even though I'm not like living in a fear based model of apprehension around like vaccines and things like that.
For some people, they are.
And like but then a lot of people get caught up in these arguments of trying to like,
even though it's more of an argument of like,
I'm afraid to get it.
They want to introduce their own facts and figures
to try and bolster their argument.
It's like, well, this isn't actually about a philosophy.
Like this is a philosophical argument.
This isn't about data because if it were,
you could look at a lot of the data
that would probably say this is okay.
And versus like, if you're just afraid to get
it that's easier for me to wrap my head around like to be like okay you're just afraid and you
don't know enough to figure out what's going on then being like well no i'm not getting it because
this and fauci said that and then if you really look at what happened in wuhan it's like whoa
whoa whoa because i don't think you even really believe this. I think this is unfortunately the vocabulary you've been given to express your fear around it because you aren't for whatever reason you don't understand enough.
Yes. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, the the beer thing is an example of something that like liberals would be able to get to.
So I feel like that doesn't appeal to the sorts of people.
I think there's something that is keeping people,
at least the people who are getting their vaccine information
from Fox News, which I think that information desert side of it
is real as fuck.
Whereas the million- dollar lotto like that is that feels like something
that if you win that you can like own all the libs you want you know right so i i wonder if
that's like we just need to oh you know what it is it's like you could pants joe biden yeah it's
like a raffle yeah like when a team's like. You could dunk on Kamala Harris.
On a team's coach. On an eight foot rim.
Offers to get a tattoo.
Or like have their head shaved if they win.
Yeah.
That's.
Yeah.
That would be amazing.
Joe Biden's like, I get it folks.
You want to pants me?
Let's go for it.
If that's what I got to do, you can do it.
They'll be like, yeah, man, I'm doing that.
The dunk tank angle is so good
they should try it just on a fucking on as a laugh you know what i mean if you're like in a
deep purple said the governor like hey man you can fucking throw a pie at me if you get your if
you're like eight lucky uh people who can get their shot to get your you know how get your
photo being like i i pied the governor hey man that's cool
i'll fuck that pig uh sorry from black mirror yeah right it's cool man i get it
no no we just said pants man we just no i got you i got you jack if that's where we're at man
it's cool joe it almost seems like you want to fuck that pig now, man.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's got goals.
It's got goals.
What are you talking about?
Who said anything about a pig?
You just did.
All right.
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And let's talk about an alternate way of dealing with the pandemic that was proposed during the Trump administration.
dealing with the pandemic that was proposed during the Trump administration.
Because, yeah, we're starting to get the goods,
the little tidbits from people who were on the inside and got to see firsthand what things looked like.
And, you know, we're caught up in the dragnet of, like,
anger and investigations into leaking
that kept some of this
information from coming out.
There's a new book.
It's called nightmare scenario.
Okay.
It's,
this is an excerpt.
There's a few of these excerpts that are coming from this book called
nightmare scenario that comes from people who are working in the
administration during the COVID response.
And yes,
February, 2020, they're in the Situation Room.
And these administration officials are trying to figure out, like, what do we do?
Like, we've got people who are, like, on that Diamond Princess cruise.
We have people abroad who have, like, we need to figure out what we do.
Like, how can we bring them home?
And Trump asks this group of officials in the Situation Room, don't we have an island that we own? What about Guantanamo? We import goods. We're not going to import a virus.
where we currently keep political prisoners or, you know, perceived terrorists or anyone who has run afoul of American foreign policy to also be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's put people with COVID there and create a like sick island for to help keep the country safe or at least hide what is actually happening.
And this book goes on because, you know, we knew that he hated testing. He was always like, the testing's bad.
Or like, we've always read reports.
He's like, I hate the testing because then people know how bad the situation is here.
Right.
And at one point, he got in this full blown screaming match with Alex Azar.
And this article about this book, so many things he just yelled within earshot of people.
Like, nothing was really confidential at a certain point because you're just so reactive and angry.
So at one point he's yelling to Alex Azar.
Testing is killing me.
So loud as they said his aides have overheard every word of this conversation.
I'm going to lose the election because of testing.
What idiot had the federal government do testing?
Azar responded.
Do you mean jared as in jared
kushner who was put in charge to spearhead the testing strategy so it's like filled with all
these like you know it's just it's it's like as bad as it sounded and his like dictator tendencies
were as extreme as you'd believe even Even though his first instincts are basically
very draconian and authoritative.
We're just like, well then put him somewhere that he can't be seen.
And for him it's more just like,
hide the dirt pile in the corner. We've got guests
coming over more than like, I feel I have
the right to move people and put them there.
He's just like, no, no, no. Hide our shame.
Hide our shame. Obscure the numbers.
Totally. Totally.
Talk about shoving stuff in a cave or like where you
can't see it like oh my god yeah the things must be super awkward now at like anytime trump and
ivanka and jerry get together because apparently he is blaming jared for like all his failures
his quote failures i should say like his failure uh one of them being the like human
rights work like the remember when there were those random things where he was like doing prison
reform yeah and everyone's like wait what the fuck is happening why is he doing like the right
in like an island of just madness and reactionary political violence.
And he apparently, that was all Jared,
and he was reported saying behind the scenes,
like, Jared's fucking killing me with this.
And they're not even going to vote for me,
they being Black people and Black Lives Matter activists.
Absolutely.
Look at that.
Look at how you've reduced people to these weird customers so you're like but
i did the we did the giveaway yeah they're not coming back i feel like that that do you mean
jared it's just like a great refrain uh do you mean just such a great low-key refrain to the
insanity right yeah like oh really asshole you mean the child doll that you put in charge of it
with the porcelain face who's like just gonna go down his like rolodex to figure out the pandemic
no owned by the guy who uh swept jeffrey epstein under the rug when he was yeah
down in florida right yeah yeah that's oh wow So he knows a thing or two about sweeping things under the rug unsuccessfully.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Still.
All right.
Let's do a quick update on the drought.
You know, we talked about it a week and a half ago.
Since then, it's become one of the most extreme heat waves ever observed in the western United States this early, like in June.
Fires are worsening.
Fire conditions are at an all-time worst-case
scenario. Air quality, which we talked about, expecting to see that become a problem as it did
last year when there were fires everywhere. Air quality is low and seems like it's headed lower.
Phoenix saw their worst air quality since 1980. Last week, soil moisture is at the
lowest levels in 120 years, which you may recognize as before the dust bowl. And it's just like
creating these tinderbox conditions. The second largest reservoir in California has gotten so low
that a hydroelectric dam is going to have to shut down this summer for the
first time ever at full capacity. The dam produces electricity that can power 800,000 homes, which I
didn't really have a reference for that. But speaking of San Francisco, San Francisco has
400,000 homes. So it's two San Francisco's that this dam provides electricity for, and they're
going to have to just straight up shut it down. And this is the Central Valley's worst drought
since 1977, which is, you know, the agricultural breadbasket of much of America. Farmers are being
forced to leave their fields fallow. One farm they, is having to leave a third of their acres empty and having to
spend tons and tons of extra money to dig even deeper to get supplemental water out of wells.
So I just wanted to present all that information in the context of this article coming from The Federalist, which is all about how Chipotle has had to raise their prices by 4%,
and this author is not having it.
Arch conservative outlet, The Federalist.
I'm just going to read the beginning.
Chicken bowl, brown rice, black and pinto beans, pico, hot salsa, lettuce, cheese, sour cream.
That's all I want.
And I want it for $7.60 plus tax.
Shut the fuck up.
I fucking already hate this price.
Thanks to the ill-named American Rescue Plan and remarkably short-sighted employment decisions,
the federal government has jacked up the price of my Chipotle order.
Sure, the restaurant is the one raising its prices by about four percent.
But the federal government is the cause.
Four percent, by the way, is 30 cents.
So she blames this on them raising minimum wage or putting pressure on people to raise the minimum wage by giving better unemployment benefits during the pandemic.
She says, give people a living wage.
They demand for entry level jobs that were never intended to support full families.
So that's her very narrow.
So what's your plan for someone's upward mobility then?
Yes.
Like otherwise, shut the fuck up.
They need to reach out they need to send a mass email to people that their dads went to college with who are also in the federalist
society and then they're they'll get a job that basically requires them to write an opinion piece
once every month and they'll get paid handsomely for it that's what they should do how about how
about she works,
maybe her burrito price can stay the same.
She just has to work in the Central Valley
for a week in the middle of July
in the hot sun.
And just see if there's a POV change.
Yeah.
Maybe talk to the other Republicans
that make sure it's okay for them
to use the kind of labor that they use,
while on the other side, argue like these migrant crises that are occurring but also are very
hush-hush that they're also they helped ensure that this form of labor can exist as well like
it's just uh but that's it's such a clear redirect of like so there are these like just blind, capitalistic, short sighted decisions
that America has been making for decades now that have led to, you know, out of control global
warming that are leading to more frequent droughts and more frequent fires. And, you know, the
short sighted decisions of a Republican president led to America having just a disastrous pandemic
response. And these are things that are like making the supply chain just incredibly
like fucked and fragile and just in a really bad position. And she's blaming like she just
chose this one thing, the fact that people are able to make slightly better wages thanks to pandemic like
unemployment relief, which like at a time when like so many crises are being caused by like that
side of the political world, it's just wild that they've chosen the raising of the prices being paid to like the people who serve them food as like a,
as the cause of all evil in,
in the country.
Yeah.
Great.
But classic tactic,
just redirect that anger because,
and I'm trying to go for the,
I'm mad.
My burrito bowl went up a few cents crowd to try and really get the steam
engine rolling.
And for these midterms,
like folks
i wonder how many i wonder if this because it we've seen this specific thing come up a lot i
don't know if this is part of it too i know the immigration thing is going to be a huge part of
the midterm tax plan for conservatives but i don't know if that goes hand in hand with like i don't
know if you guys noticed how much chipotle has gone up because inflation is the other thing i
think they're gonna try and exploit in terms of being like joe biden wants all this infrastructure stuff what about inflation
i mean chipotle's already gone up blah blah like you know who knows what kind of fucking sick web
they're gonna try and weave but yeah yeah look at the real yeah i mean this is why i hope this is
the direction that they take it because like
just having one person be like,
I want it for seven 60 instead of seven 90 is like such a arbitrary
like price difference that I feel like it's not going to sway anyone.
They just sound spoiled and petulant at that point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
W I I F M what's in it for me yeah yeah totally totally yeah that's
a really good point too jack just that like the the 30 cent thing is like yeah you don't create
you know hopefully a big crowd sway off of that you just sound like how she sounds right yeah
and again it's like it's just so it's such a hollow, dumb fucking take
when you're essentially you're vilifying people for not wanting to work for subsubsistence wages.
That's really the thrust of it. Right. It's like how dare people want ask for subs they want more
than subsubsistence wages. And then also if your worldview is well those jobs aren't meant
to raise a family on well then let's keep going because you're at the federalist you're some
fucking galaxy brain to know it all right kelsey tell me what then how what is the path right if
you're someone who is there and this isn't the the ultimate stop in your employment career what is
the next step because let's say this person doesn't have a college degree and does have a child or
maybe two and doesn't have time to go to school and get a degree at a university, maybe some
night classes.
But for right now, this is what it's going to be.
What what can you do to alleviate those those forces that are acting on them to help create
some form of upward mobility for them?
Because if you're not pivoting off of that, then you're just wasting your fucking time
with just this, you know, take from the chamber of commerce.
Well, and it's just such a...
I didn't pay you to say.
Yeah, yeah.
It's such a...
It's just the disconnect is so...
It's just so like laughably obvious, right?
Just the disconnect of it's about me and my bull.
Where does that bull come from?
You know, I mean, it's just,
you're literally writing the illustration
of the wall that you have around yourself.
Yeah.
And I think just in general,
this is just sort of how conservatives work.
We've seen it even in their policy now.
They don't have actual solutions to anything. Right. Like they don't have actual uh solutions to anything
right like they don't all they can do is like oh my god they want open borders
okay so let's talk about what so where do you think the the sources of people coming here
and what is your what's your plan for that don't just go that's what they want america first well
then you're not gonna fucking solve anything and i think, but again, I think we're so polarized right now that people just take whatever the little letter they see next to someone's name in a lower third on like a news channel and be like, yeah, I agree with this thing.
And I won't give it much critical thought past that on both sides.
Like whether it's, you know, the terrible dehumanizing immigration policy from the left and the right but both
times that people are like yeah this this could be an improvement maybe it's better no come on
yeah yeah there's just a there's a much more connective way to have an actual conversation
versus a yeah appointing at yeah and i mean you look at just what the federalist posted on monday
uh one of their top posts juneteenth, quote unquote, celebrations repeatedly turned violent with shootings.
You know, this is like, right.
This is what they have to feed their their viewers to sort of keep up this, you know, really dark, racist, cishet, normalized, whatever version of the world they want to live in.
cishet normalized whatever version of the world they want to live in.
Her pinned tweet, Kylie Zempel, who looks like, you know, she's like 24,
is can we cancel Dr. Fauci instead of Dr. Seuss?
So that's the level of like deep thought. Oh, wow.
Oh, my God.
You've done it.
Wow.
Nailed them, King.
You did.
That's a real A to B moment.
That's from early March.
First of all, his name is Ted Geisel.
Dr. Seuss's real name is Ted Geisel.
Kylie, just so you know.
But no.
What is it from, Jack?
From March?
Yeah, from March.
So she was like, this is a winner.
And I have officially nailed it.
She also pointed a thing where she said, this child is leaving school because of critical race theory.
They got some articulate 15-year-old to just put a scripted speech in front of them.
And then she's like, you see what's going on here?
This kid, he has to leave now to go to a private christian school because they're
teaching them about history god they're not teaching critical race theory in elementary
schools you just see the like renaissance remember when remember when everyone on the the right was
using orwellian it was just always about orwell all the time you just get these buzzwords it's
like i want to see the email that goes out
that's like, put this in.
Just put this in and share it.
Share it widely.
Just use Orwell.
It doesn't matter if you haven't read 1984.
It's fine.
Put it in there.
Yeah.
I would just love to read this child's autobiography so far
and how she sustained a media career i mean probably
on the right the rules are slightly different like you don't necessarily have to do an internship
that pays zero dollars because the coke brothers are willing to pay any young person who puts a
r next to their name but yeah just wear her sense that it's not like people who work at Chipotle
have families to raise.
Where that comes from, I'd be interested.
Well, it's also not my responsibility.
You know, like we're in America.
I'm like, we have to, like, I figured it out on my own.
And like, they're going to have to figure it out on their own.
I think it's ultimately like where you'll arrive
with people like that who have absolutely zero empathy.
Yeah.
Gosh.
All right.
Well, Kate,
it has been such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist.
It has been such a pleasure.
Where can people find you and follow you?
I'm mostly on Instagram at Kate Scott Campbell.
It's Kate with a C C A T E Scott Campbell on Twitter at Campbell.
Kate.
It's got Campbell was too long.
And katescottcampbell.com.
Usually whatever I'm doing, I post updates right over there.
Nice.
And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?
Oh, yes.
My good friend Rachel Axler at Rachel Axler recently tweeted, the key that's been stuck to my forehead for two months just fell off.
So I guess we know how long this vaccine lasts, which I really appreciated.
It was so ridiculous.
And then someone wrote back and said that the magnet effect wears off when the microchip finds its final resting place in your brain.
So everything is proceeding exactly to plan.
Boom.
Feels timely for all the vaccination speak.
Rachel, as your tweet shows, is fully vaccinated.
Miles, where can people find you?
What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Grey. Also the other show, 420 Day Fiance for the fans of weed and 90 Day Fiance. Come over there to the calm waters of that show.
tell your father to google lasd gangs yeah so have your dad do that make sure he knows that the sheriff's department have gangs in them uh in la in case they didn't know uh next one is from
jenny at jenny pentland tweeted my 11 year old just screamed across the skate park mom did you
ever get our health insurance reinstated i want to do a trick. Oh, boy. Very real. And another one is from atpenis, P-A-Y-N-U-S-3.
And then that tweet is, garbage men and pickup artists should switch names.
And you know what?
I like that.
Garbage men and pickup artists.
Garbage men and pickup artists.
They work really well.
I'd say that a garbage person is a pickup artist in a lot of ways, right?
Yeah.
The art of the pickup. The art of the pickup.
Do it so easily.
Do it so smoothly.
Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Hannah Michaels tweeted,
Is there a class in med school called How to Assume Your Patients Have Fax Machines?
Sarah Haji tweeted,
We'll never understand the impulse to wish a celeb a happy B-Day on Twitter.
How can so many people be wishing Nicole Kidman a happy birthday?
And I am baffled by that as well.
It's always like, why is this celebrity trending?
Did they say something horrible?
Did they do something awesome?
No, it's just their birthday.
It's just their 37th birthday.
It's like, what the fuck?
Why is that something that I need to care about?
And then finally, Stacey Burns tweeted,
as seen in the Phillips neighborhood of Minneapolis,
and it is a lawn sign that says,
make the golf course a public sex forest.
And there's just a picture of a map of a golf course
with just different old-timey photographs of people having sex all over it.
And I think that's a beautiful sentiment.
And then when conservatives react to that negatively, we'll be like, OK, well, let's try a public park then.
That'll be like our way of widening the Overton window a little bit.
Right.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
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We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com,
where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
And we also link off to a song we think you might enjoy miles what song are we linking off to today this is a little mash-up of drake uh and just some you know some nice different kind
of instrumental music behind it and it's called jesus cristo's plan uh and it's called Jesus Cristo's Plan. And it's obviously Drake's God's Plan.
And this is by Cancrejo.
C-A-N-C-R-E-J-O.
And this mashup is on SoundCloud.
So we'll put the link there for you to check out this wonderful, vibey remix.
Speaking of SoundCloud, there's Thunder here in Pittsburgh.
Which I haven't experienced in like a long time.
Get out there, Jack Frawley.
My kids have never experienced it, I don't think.
So this is going to be big for them.
That's amazing.
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