The Daily Zeitgeist - Nice Ass(et), BUY MY BABY 8.2.19
Episode Date: August 2, 2019In episode 446, Miles and special guest host Kenny DeForest are joined by comedian Steve Hernandez to discuss influencers selling baby doll replicas of their newborn, the democratic debates night tw...o, Moscow Mitch McConnell's shady behavior, Kentucky coal miners protesting to be paid, America's favorite fast-food chains, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Influencers introduce new model of monetizing newborn babies by selling a replica of their own2. Fact check: CNN's Democratic debate, night 23. Joe Biden telling a nationwide debate audience to "go to joe30330" is a digital strategist's nightmare4. Ex-McConnell staffers lobbied on Russian-backed Kentucky project5. Kentucky Coal Miners Protest After Not Being Paid By Company That Declared Bankruptcy6. Chick-fil-A is Still America's Favorite Fast-Food Chain7. Milo - Myth Building Exercise No.9 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello? Hello?
Is this the internet? It's? Oh, it's you. And yes, welcome to season 93, episode 5 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio, and y'all already know what
it is. This is a podcast where we take a deep look into America's old weird brain and soul,
and off the rip, we always say, fuck coke industry or fuck fox news it is friday
august 2nd 2019 my name is miles gray uh
aka um oh here we go
jack is known for being twice as nice.
Miles gets off just repeating the same old lines.
Went to Italy and found his soul.
Don't want to hear about his same old goal. Yeah, Miles.
Miles says anything that he wants to do, yeah
But Jack don't want to hear that shit
Cause it's just a knowing, yeah
But Miles won't go for that, no
I've been to Italy, Miles won't go for that, no
That is a long AK.
Thank you to Simone Henri-Utecht.
I will just pronounce it very European.
I don't know if that's how you pronounce it.
At Shutecht on Twitter.
And look, I see the other can't go for that AKs.
It's a guaranteed spot on the show because I could keep seeing this shit all day.
As you noticed, and Jack told y'all, he's not here for a little bit.
So that means you get the substitute teacher who lets you watch NBA highlight tapes instead of teaching you a lesson.
That's right.
That's right.
And I'm thrilled to be joined by my special guest host today, Mr. Kenny DeForest.
Yes, sir.
Hello, Zeitgang.
It's me, Kenny DeForest, a.k.a. Kenbo Spice, a.k.a. Kenny DeForestation Isn't Cool, a.k.a.
Ken Tucky Mitch is a Bitch.
Oh, shit.
Wow.
Fever out that mouth.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much for joining me, Kenny.
First time guest hosting.
Man, my pleasure. This is exciting. Definitely won't be the last. And we are thrilled to be joined in the third seat by a very hilarious comedian, just protector of people at bars, host, podcaster, Mr. Steve Hernandez, Big Hearn.
Great to be here. How are you, fellas?
Good, man. How you doing?
You never really saw an NBA highlight reel with a substitute yes i have
yo i had a teacher i remember in uh i forget i think it was sixth grade no fourth grade y'all
remember if you went to school with me shout out miss semel who had her baby she was pregnant at
the time so there was like a long streak where first we had substitutes here and there when she
had to go to like doctors and stuff like that and then we had a full-on sub for a while but those subs that came in one of them just played like literally like a nba biggest bloopers tape and we're like
great um should we learn about slavery like no no you guys watch this man the way kenny the jet
misses this dunk you're gonna laugh your ass off that was uh that was the person that uh teaches
that uses teaching as a side hustle. Yeah, exactly.
They weren't ready to get called in that day.
100%.
They're like, oh, yeah, 7 a.m.?
I'll be there.
In fourth grade, I remember they dragged the TV in.
I don't know.
You guys remember the Challenger explosion?
Yeah.
All the kids watched it.
Oh, I didn't see that at that time.
All the kids because the teacher was on the thing,
so they made all the kids watch the Challenger explosion.
Fourth grade,
that was a rough day, folks.
I really remember
looking at this girl,
Andrea,
who's sitting in the front
and watching her face crumple
as you watch the explosion happen
and then she put her face
down on the desk.
Let's just destroy
the wonder of space
for these children.
Just take it in your eyes, kids.
Big Bird was supposed
to be on that thing, too.
That would have been truly tragic.
No, it wasn't.
What do you mean?
They wanted, that was their initial plan
before the teacher.
They wanted to have literally the person
who dressed up as Big Bird go into space.
Really?
Yeah, that's a real thing.
Wow.
Yeah.
Sorry for derailing this, guys.
No, no.
I mean, I always like to know how Big Bird
almost burnt up in the atmosphere.
That would have been sad.
That would have been really tragic.
Also, you know, very tragic, obviously.
Yeah, tragic that not Big Bird died.
So, Steve, we're going to get to know you a little more.
First, let's give people a quick look into what we got brewing, percolating under the surface.
First up, I want to talk about a new trend.
Influencers selling all kinds of stuff,
but there's a new product that I don't even know if this is something people should be buying,
but look, to each their own. We'll talk a little bit about the debate, even though it's a day late,
so we won't get too into it, but we'll just kind of give you some of our thoughts and feelings.
Talk a little bit more about Moscow Mitch and just some more things that are coming out, and also some
things happening in his home state of Kentucky.
Sounds like some GOP congresspeople are getting tired and calling it quits early.
And then fast food wars.
We got some data to think about, to I guess determine who's on top of the certain piles
when it comes to fast food.
But first, Big Hearn McCracken.
What's something from research history that's revealing about who you are?
Let's see here.
I did a movie podcast last night.
I have a movie podcast called Views from the Vista,
and we just did the, for our patron, we did Eternal Sunshine.
Oh, yeah.
That was my last thing.
Let me read the line.
I had to quote.
Why do I fall in love with the first woman that shows me any kind of attention?
No.
What's the Kate Winslet quote?
I'm not a concept.
Too many guys think I'm a concept or I complete them or I'm just going to make them alive.
But I'm just a fucked up girl who's looking for my own peace of mind.
Damn.
Don't assign me yours.
Damn.
What do you guys think of that?
That's real as hell.
Wait, how come you Googled that?
I Googled that because i wanted to remember that i think eternal sunshine was so great because they she was actually this was before the idea of a manic pixie dream girl
even was like on the landscape oh really but that movie already tried to like say that's kind of
what she was but she was kind of saying i don't want to be this sure and make me this oh right
yeah she's just a person i Yeah she's a fucked up person
I mean she makes potatoes
Out of art
Yeah
But she doesn't play
The ukulele
To make potatoes out of art
Art out of potatoes
That would be tight too
She's like
Let me take this Rembrandt
Real quick
Y'all want a latke
So that's
I think that's one of the most
Romantic movies
Definitely in my top five
Ten of all time
Oh yeah
I saw that
I think I've talked about this
In the show Like when I was Like in a similar headspace to jim carrey yeah like getting over a breakup
and i was just like oh my god it like resonated with me for i was like do this i don't think jim
carrey ever fully came back from that movie yeah right i saw her right the month after i moved out
of my ex-wife's house and hers about that guy getting a divorce and falling in love with the
computer so that movie i went with two different women and i wept during both showings damn and after I moved out of my ex-wife's house. And hers was about that guy getting a divorce and falling in love with the computer.
So that movie, I went with two different women, and I
wept during both showings. Damn, and then you
fucked an iPad.
What's
one that's overrated?
Overrated? Blowjobs.
It's all about balljobs
now, huh? I just don't think they're a big deal.
Oh, wow.
Do you think they're a big deal?
It's funny. I used to think blowjobs were the top of mount fuck more yeah you know what i mean like
i thought that was like that's where zeus lived yeah i blow job at city yeah um and then i'm like
yeah it i don't i don't i guess i don't desire head as much as i used to well i mean especially
you're in a loving committed monogamous relationship right it's like we don't desire head as much as I used to. Well, I mean, especially you're in a loving, committed, monogamous relationship, right?
It's like, you don't need to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, some people, like, but then it's weird.
Like, I feel like old, like, you know, other people, all they, like, want to do is get head.
Because I think they can't fuck.
Well, also, the older I get to, the more I wonder about, like, why guys like it so much.
I think there might be some kind of...
It's a power dynamic.
Yeah, some kind of-
We all grew up watching rap videos.
Yeah.
You know.
What videos were you watching?
He watched a lot of BET Uncut.
Super Uncut.
I know.
I mean, I want to see these videos, but-
No, but yeah, so all that kind of stuff.
I do that like that.
But yeah, just give me that hot pipe and, you know,
whatever comes besides that.
I don't need any of that.
Well, you start considering, you know considering, my girls were the same.
We're in our 30s.
It's just like, save your knees.
We're low on CBD oil.
We don't need to be exerting our joints this way.
Or I found new ways to give head,
like with the way I lay on the bed.
So it's very relaxing.
There's not too much pressure on my joints.
Oh, you like to lay on your stomach,
kick your feet?
Yeah, just like I'm on the phone with a crush.
I like to throw myself in my spine inverter, you know, flip upside down.
The older I get, the more I love giving it.
Don't get me wrong.
It's different for us.
But, you know, we can come in so many ways.
And I'm speaking purely from a straight perspective right now.
I'm queer, so the best blowjobs I've ever got. With guys, I mean, you guys, neither one of you guys have ever got a blowjob from a straight perspective right now, I'm queer. So the best blowjobs I've ever got for with guys,
I mean,
you guys,
neither one of you guys ever got a blowjob from a guy,
right?
No.
You're willing to talk about on the air.
If I did,
shit,
you know.
Best blowjob I ever got in my life was from an old Mexican guy in a porn shop
right after I quit being a pastor.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean,
with,
with gay guys.
Can you put that on a t-shirt?
I tried.
It did not sell. It did not sell.
It did not sell.
There was more than just cum leaving your body that day.
Well, I mean,
because if somebody just wants it that bad,
that's where it's so like sexy.
That's where it's hot,
where it's like,
I just gotta have this thing.
Then it's like,
wow, that's really cool.
Thank you for this shirt.
And you're like,
and I trust that you know your way around it.
That was a day.
If you have a dick,
you know how to work your way around it.
That was a day he transitioned
from Father Steve to Daddy Steve.
Ooh, to Zaddy Esteban.
Oh, we got an explosion for that one, yeah.
Zaddy Sextaban.
But in regular heteronormative stuff, I don't need it.
It's fine.
Who cares?
I'm an adult man.
Yeah, well, I feel like boomers are like, yeah, man, then you'll never get hit again.
Or like older people who are married, it's like, I can't remember the last time I got a blowjob.
Or like on my birthday, things like that.
It's just so crazy.
It's so dumb to me.
We don't need to do this.
I know people, too, who celebrate like steak and blowjob day.
You don't know people who do that.
Yes, I do.
Oh, my God.
I thought that was just a dumb internet thing.
Not like a close friend, but like I see them and I'm like on their Instagram,
like it's steak and blowjob day.
I'm like, it was like started by some lame San Diego DJ.
Yeah.
No, I love my girl.
We're partners.
We don't have to do anything she don't want to do.
There you go.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Keep it fair.
Keep it equitable.
Yes.
What's something that's underrated?
The new hills.
The hills, new beginnings.
What a fucking transition.
I'm getting head the day after I'm a pastor.
Less blood jobs, more The Hills.
Did you guys watch the original Hills?
A little bit.
I mean, enough to know who the characters were and not give a fuck.
Yeah, I was a pretty big fan, but I didn't want to check out this new thing.
But I just got back from Columbia the other day.
And I bought the season just to watch on the thing.
And it's really awesome. And it's not about what the old one's about it's really about spencer
and brody's relationship it's about guys turning being in their 30s and their old relationships
falling apart because they have different values and how do you like get out of this thing for real
yeah it's it i mean i don't the mtv it's they wouldn't say but that's the main storyline and they just have different values and also spencer's like hurt a lot because brody's not
acknowledging like that he betrayed him in a lot he didn't get invited him to his wedding he never
came and visited spencer's son when he had his son and spencer's like trying to communicate with
him about this but brody's just acting like it's not a thing. I used to think Spencer Pratt was just a piece of shit, though.
Is he different?
He's evolved a bit?
Yeah, it seems like he's different.
I always liked him.
I'm a big reality show fan, and I think he's one of the greatest villains of all time.
But he seems like he's trying to grow, and he communicates well with his wife, and they
seem to communicate well.
He's still with Heidi, right?
Yeah.
Man.
She's my birthday twin.
Giving hope for reality romance. Shout out to Heidi Montag.
But it's
a really, it's a very interesting
series and season.
And like I said, I didn't watch it till
it's on episode six. I think they have a couple more
left, but I thought it was going to be just trash,
but it's very deep. It's about, it's
mostly about these masculine relationships.
And I mean, anybody, any
man who's in their 30s who has friends that they, when they were
19 or 20, are people they've outgrown.
Yeah.
And also men aren't willing to talk about the fact that we have relationships, that
we've betrayed each other in different ways.
It's very interesting.
I'm surprised.
I'm not surprised, but it's just really cool to watch.
So I do think if you are into reality shows, The Hills, New Beginnings is really, really good.
And Pamela Lee's son's on it.
He's 10 years younger than all of them, and he's like a really smart, young, cool guy.
Nice.
And he's sober.
It's just a lot of cool stuff on there.
Damn.
Great.
How's Audrina doing?
It's rough.
She's gotten a divorce.
That's the one.
That's the regular kind of Hills thing, the back and forth her and Justin Bobby.
There's this weird thing.
But Justin Bobby's grown up.
The dude with the long hair?
Yeah, he's also very like, he's trying to be,
he's like, I'm not trying to get romantically involved
with anybody I'm not willing to commit to.
I mean, it's very funny to watch.
He sounds like a Tinder fuck boy.
He's definitely a Tinder fuck boy.
You know, I'm not trying to get serious.
You know what I mean?
Just keep it casual, keep it loose.
No hookups
Here for the real thing
Exactly
But yeah
But it's great to watch them all back
If you like the original
You'll definitely love this
But also if you're a reality show fan
Check out The Hill's New Beginnings
Okay
And lastly
But not leastly
What's a myth?
I just got back from Columbia
Did you guys know that
Not all Latinos fuck with tortillas?
Yes.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
I mean, not to the thing where I was like, how did you not know?
But that was a thing I slowly realized, too.
I absolutely did not know.
So I went to Colombia.
They don't have a fucking tortilla in that place.
And that includes chips and salsa.
I'm sorry, guys. What what are they eating like tostones
or something yeah no plantain like no i mean there's plantains but like fried dough okay
unlike bullshit like that but i ordered some oh you're mad about this damn i was pissed i'm from
la i'm a mexican from la and i was like i ordered ceviche and they just brought the ceviche with a
fork there wasn't even like a not even even like a, no crunch at all?
No crunch vehicle?
Dude, they had a fucking fork.
Yeah, I just ate it like that.
Usually, like, I'll see it with like a tostone or something,
or some kind of plantain chip or something, if it's not a tortilla chip.
I mean, I think it just infuriated me.
I mean, I guess I'm the fool here, but, you know, that's what traveling's for,
so you realize new things.
Open your third eye.
But I just don't like how then society and media and culture try to write off latinos as one person i don't
have anything in common with a fucking brown person that hasn't grown up with a tortilla
right i mean i have things to learn from them yeah but don't try to group us into one thing
if you're if you haven't fried dough with your ceviche If you don't pound chips and salsa, get the fuck out.
So note to all the Colombianos out there.
No, no.
I love.
No, I know.
Luisa Diaz from New York.
She's a great comedy mind and producer.
Her and I were twittering back and forth about this.
Oh, she's Colombian?
Yeah.
I mean, the stuff they have is great.
Of course. Yeah, yeah.
But I was just.
And I did not know how much I liked tortillas.
Until you didn't have them.
Until I didn't have tortillas.
A day without a tortilla.
Yeah, no burritos, no chips and salsa.
That was crazy.
Okay, well, let's make it positive.
What was something that you ate that was out there that you're like, you know what?
God damn, that was good.
I do like how they slang empanadas everywhere, on the corners, at coffee shops and everything.
So I don't eat enough empanadas here, Yeah. But I fucked hard with empanadas.
Did you have a haro con pollo?
No.
What's that?
Their chicken and rice dish out there?
No, I didn't have that.
That's like a thing that always all my Colombian friends are like, yo, you gotta get that.
They kept pushing these paisa plates, which is just a big plate of like meat and eggs
and an egg and beans and rice and sausage.
There you go.
But yeah, it was a great time.
I'm so glad to be there.
I'm going to work on my Spanish so I can hang out in Mexico City more.
What part of Colombia did you go to?
We went to Medellin.
We went to, what's the capital?
Bogota.
Cartagena.
Bogota.
And then we went to some little vacation town.
Nice.
We went with my white girlfriend's parents.
I'm telling you.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, but they take care of everything.
They're like, everything. Like, oh, yeah, we can eat about. Yeah. Yeah, but they take care of everything. They're like everything.
Like, oh, yeah, we can eat there.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Appetizers and whatever.
I don't drink alcohol, but I was having two lemonades at dinner.
Yeah.
I mean, they got nice lemonade there.
It's like limeade, and it comes with this crushed ice.
So I would have one with the apps, and then when the dinner came, I'd be like, I'll have another Lemonada Natural.
Yeah.
So it was great.
Yeah, we had a great time. Nice. That's nice that's awesome yeah well let's get into it so um i was reading this article just
came up and i was like what the fuck is this uh we've heard about people selling bath water we
remember that whole controversy right gamer bath water um now there there is like this article
about these uh this couple that is on YouTube.
They call themselves the iFam.
And it says, parents Chris and Sarah Ingham had a child,
and now they've decided to design a lifelike baby doll
modeled after their newborn Jace at two weeks old
that their followers can buy and take care of for only $340.
How does that make everyone feel?
Well, I mean, it's too good of a deal to pass up.
For only $340.
Yes.
You can go to, I guess, a person who makes these reborn babies, where you can pick up
a, quote, soft- bodied version of their child.
Oh, soft bodied is such an unsettling descriptor.
Yeah.
Don't worry, the body's good and soft.
It's really freaky.
I don't know.
Just a malleable baby.
This is a very, this will be an influential baby, this one.
But this is kind of like, you know, playing out this sort of thing of like people who,
like millennials in this sort of social media age of influencers, where like you know playing out this sort of thing of like people who like millennials in this sort of social media age of influencers where like you become the commodity and you become the
product so you have to commodify over nearly every fucking dimension of your life like to your fucking
i mean not that the bath water is like a thing that you have to do but it's just the logic path
that you're going to follow it's like oh okay well how much of myself can i give or sell or cut off
and get and people will buy?
Yeah, and what's – I mean, is it more troubling that they're selling the baby or that there's definitely a market for the baby?
Well, if we don't know if there's a market, but if there is a market, then it's the saddest market in the world.
Yeah.
Because it's people who've lost their baby.
It's like, you know you could just have a baby, right?
You could just have your own. But the people who would buy them can't have that baby. I's like, you know, you could just have a baby, right? You could just have your own.
But the people who would buy them can't have that baby.
I guess that's true.
That's what I'm saying.
It feels very predatory.
Yeah, and it's just weird, though, too.
Again, now everything's a product.
Oh, now my two-week-old child is a product?
And how did they get that made?
I don't even know.
Because a lot of other things, when'm thinking about like other kind of dolls that one would make or whatever,
you're using like you're dipping the thing in wax or that kind of plastic.
Yeah, like casting a mold and stuff.
Yeah, so how did we cast this little baby mold?
That's a good question.
We put it under anesthesia.
Yeah.
And then we wrap it and then we have the mold.
No, I have no idea.
It's also like, okay, so the draw here is that the baby looks like another baby, but
so does every other baby.
It's two weeks.
Who cares?
Babies look like babies.
They all look like newborn mice.
How many followers do those people have?
The Ingham family, 1.2 million subs.
Huh.
Welcome to the...
This is what their page description.
Welcome to the iFam.
We're the Ingham family from the UK.
We are Chris, Dad, Sarah dad sarah mom isabel age 13
esme age nine age nine isla age seven and our new baby boy jace who was born in march this year we
vlog our daily lives blah blah blah that's what they're yeah and i mean like this is like a thing
that's always been around people love to like live vicariously through a lot of these like
influencer families and things like that look i just hope uh everyone can if look if
you got to buy a baby uh please don't bring it out in public because there's like a i've seen a lot
of photos of people like getting freaked out by baby dolls and there was that one baby doll that
was like in new york that was like one of these real life babies that the cops thought was a dead
corpse and they're like oh fuck i think that's a and they're like it's a doll that just looks
super real and fucked up i think they're gonna what are they gonna. I think that's a doll that just looks super real and fucked up.
I think they're going to...
What are they going to sell?
10?
Let's do a run on this, huh?
They can't sell more than 10.
Their next video is like...
I think they'll hit 100.
Really?
I guess, look, you think about the 1.2 million subscribers, I guess, as a percentage, what
percentage of those 1.2 million do you think are hardcore enough?
1%?
Half of 1%. 50%? Half of 1%.
50%?
Half of 1%.
0.5%?
Okay.
Then what is that?
What's the numbers on that?
Let's do the math, guys.
He grabbed his phone.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I would like to write a list of things that you could do with $340 that aren't buying
a baby doll.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That's like a plane ticket.
You could go on a trip for that. To the doll. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's like a plane ticket. You could go on a trip for that.
To the Midwest.
Yeah.
Or if you're in the UK,
you were in Europe.
6,000.
Yeah.
All right.
Damn.
But I don't know.
Hey, damn.
If you have that kind of record,
fuck it, man.
Sell these baby dolls.
You know,
if you're like a rich scene-ster kid
with just unlimited funds,
that's totally like an ironic purchase.
You know, like, oh my God, look, I got the IFAM's baby doll. Right. And you just like laugh about it rich scene stir kid with just unlimited funds that's totally like an ironic purchase you know
like oh my god look i got the ifams baby doll right you just like let's do coke off yeah let's
do coke off its little head yeah yeah fuck yeah all right cool all right let's take a quick break
and uh buy one of these dolls and do coke off it we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered.
There are crooks everywhere you look now.
The situation is desperate.
My name is Manuel Delia.
I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
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And we're back.
And the second phase round of debates was last night.
The second round of debates happened on Wednesday. And, you know, it was fine.
It was a lot of everyone piling on to Joe Biden. And then like afterwards, like all the centrist pundits again.
like all the centrist pundits again, it's like, you know, he really held his ground and showed people why he's still in the face of all this, you know, turbulence can hold
his own against some of the best debaters in the party.
And I was like, wow, you really, y'all really spun that one into a W for him.
But I mean, I think, you know, I, as I watched it, I wasn't very impressed with many people.
I will say Cory Booker did improve from his last time around.
He sure did.
What else?
Who else?
Oh, when Tulsi Gabbard went in on Kamala Harris's record as a prosecutor in DA,
it was one of those moments where I think if you were really hot on Kamala
after the first debate when she took Joe Biden to task,
you were like, yeah, this is the first time you kind of saw her sort of fade after that because she really didn't wasn't able to sort of rebut what
gabbert had said uh in her response you just sort of made an emotional appeal about like
um oh i did that then why am i about fairness now it's like no no why don't you talk about
the people like that like she said you withheld evidence that would have kept someone off of death row, et cetera, et cetera.
But, you know, we shall see where that ends up.
But I think it's funny when Kamala is able to put the spotlight on someone else's past.
I think that makes her look really good.
But I think people are now starting to see like, oh, yeah, she has points she can get hit on pretty hard and can't quite grapple with.
Yeah.
Anything else?
No, everyone came gunning for Kamala after her thing and Biden.
I just can't believe that Biden's the frontrunner still.
I know.
I think it's crazy that they're treating him like that too.
The whole debate last night was kind of like,
Vice President Biden, you get to go first,
and everybody else try to tear him down.
Yeah.
You can try, motherfuckers.ers yeah why is it presumed i did like um you know andrew yang i
don't think is like truly a uh presidential candidate but i do like that he is bringing
the talking point of automation to the forefront because his answer on immigration was incredible
yeah when he was just like if you go into a factory in detroit you're not gonna see any
immigrants it's robots so why don't we stop letting them scapegoat?
And everyone's like, yeah!
Yeah, which is amazing, too, because with Detroit being such a manufacturing center
for the automobile industry, in the first debate, no one even touched that.
So he's very much focused on these economic issues.
That's why he has his, what is it, freedom dividend.
Yeah, exactly.
Get your thousand a month.
Get your thousand a month.
And it's funny, I just got a text
from Andrew Yang's campaign
just now,
but it's addressed to my mom.
And it's like,
hi, I'm Daniela,
volunteer with Yang 2020.
I'm like,
first of all,
is my mom signing me up
to be Yang Gang?
I got to call her up.
I'm like,
are you Yang Gang, mom?
It is funny,
he's offering $1,000 a month
to everybody
and he's still
in the back of the pack.
Yeah.
I'll give you each $1,000.
We're like, ah, hold on.
Let's do it.
And even his thing on climate change is sort of like, yo, it's a wrap, y'all.
So we need to just figure out how we're going to survive right now.
We can forget about, what are we going to do about climate change?
It's done.
$1,000 a month will be enough to get you and your family to the top of a mountain.
Right.
Essentially.
Like, head to higher ground, man.
Sit on this 1,000 or buy a bunch of baby dolls but you know whatever you're gonna do i'm gonna
give you that opportunity to live yours uh the one thing uh kirsten gillibrand said uh was that
her whole thing was like i can tell white women what white privilege is all those white women who
voted for trump i can do that i don't know okay and like well i i mean i like the sentiment there but i feel like you
don't think people have tried to tell these white women what white privilege is yet like you think
the problem is that no one's told them about it yeah they know that they hear it and they
immediately shut off by the concept because they don't want to pick apart the nuance it's like
well you're because i think everyone's most people who can't really, you know, in a constructive way, analyze white privilege, they can't look at it as like, it's not that I'm the fucking oppressor.
It's that I have to understand what this dominant culture means for other people and how I benefited from that.
And most people get on the defensive.
It's like, well, I'm not the one doing this.
It's like, no.
In some instances, they might be that person.
But on the other hand, it's like, can you actually understand what people are trying to say when they're trying to confront you with your white privilege?
You look confused, Steve.
No, I'm not confused.
Just these debates.
Last night was like not a big deal.
I thought it was a boring one.
And I'm also ready for the next round.
Hopefully we shed some more.
Yeah, we got to thin the herd.
Yeah.
We got to thin the herd.
I mean, right now my money, know i would love to see uh bernie or warren that's where i think a lot of
people that i know that's what we're thinking yeah we're also lost super los angeles liberals
so i don't know i don't know what we can do to i don't know what the rest of the country is really
feeling like outside of here well i think a lot of people think if they look at it
as like well joe biden can beat donald trump and i think that's been the focus is that oh this person
is capable of beating donald trump rather than like what is fundamentally what are we trying to
do as a country like how are we trying to advance obviously we want to beat trump but along with
that we don't we want we we have a lot of issues in this country that we're just not addressing and then i think that's where joe biden he kind of talks like he'll acknowledge
the issues but not he won't upend the system yeah i mean if we're going to take the hit like
you know of one term of donald trump then we could at least use that hit to pivot and be more liberal
or have more left-wing policy stuff that's really going to address the
issues i don't want to take the hit for fucking joe biden yeah and this is what's always killed
the the democratic party is it's always like they're always so afraid to lose that they don't
go for the win that's why you have delaney who's like well we can't like do stuff yeah that's a
risk hey i have 65 million dollars right i spent 15 on. I'm kind of upside down on this whole campaign.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
I mean, Joe Biden's worse than John Kerry as a candidate.
Right.
And John Kerry was bad.
This Joe, I mean, the one part, too, was when everyone's hitting him on his voting record,
he would always just be like, well, what about Obama, though?
I was with him.
And then one time he was like, oh, if i'm so bad then why am i obama's
grandpa huh huh they looked me up they looked they checked me out i was good enough for that dude
oh but i'm a follow i'm a race i'm racist okay but i hung out with that black guy every day my
favorite line though the thing was cory booker which he said this is the phrase have you guys
heard the phrase you're dipping into kool-aid and you don't even know the flavor i i've never heard that i i cringed into my body i'm like cory you don't have to make kool-aid
jokes i don't even know what that means really and by the way nobody drinks kool-aid for the flavor
no you drink for the color the color yeah i'll take the red i always grew up being like no i want
red i couldn't tell you what fucking flavor that is
yeah that was like the
that was like his version of
when politicians do like
folksy sayings
yeah exactly
that was like the
Cory Booker version
where it's like
you can't dip in the Kool-Aid
unless you know the flavor
and it's like
I guess
is that about taxes
you've never drank Kool-Aid man
one thing I do want to just point out
for me the highlight of the evening
was Joe Biden's closing statement.
Obviously, in the opening, he told Kamala Harris, hey, go easy on my kid.
OK, great. Thanks, Grandpa.
But yeah, way to not sound old, Joe.
Yeah. Way to read the room.
At the end of the night when he's giving his closing statements, he was supposed to direct the viewers to text Joe to a certain number.
But he got all confused in his head and just sounded like a lost.
Grandpa, just listen to this. text Joe to a certain number, but he got all confused in his head and just sounded like a lost grandpa.
Just listen to this.
Go to Joe three Oh three,
three Oh,
and help me in this fight.
Hey,
can you just play that again?
Yo,
Joe three Oh three,
three Oh,
and help me in this fight.
Thank you very much. Go to Joe.
I'm going to need OutKast to release a song called Joe 30330
about the Joe of the future.
Wow.
So, yeah, I think, yeah, we got to thin the herd out.
A lot of people are going to fall off in this next round.
So hopefully the debates will get a little bit better.
And we won't have CNN just basically regurgitating conservative talking points about healthcare.
Every fucking question was like, you know, with Medicare for All, 100 million people will lose their insurance.
Why are you even framing that shit like that?
You're already saying Medicare means you lose your insurance rather than like, Medicare for all means
we will actually give people
the same kind of like coverage
that you get with Medicare.
The argument that they're trying to make about it
is merely just to drum up this fear.
It's like, you're going to lose your insurance
and then you're going to get this inferior thing
without people thinking like,
well, how much am I already paying
for dog shit insurance right now?
And it's just really,
that's like where you see
how entrenched these networks are in these like sort of um traditional industries like the
healthcare industry and big pharma you know uh bernie sanders was critical is like right after
we're talking about upending the healthcare system you run a fucking pharmaceutical ad
it's just like yeah because they still that's their business they don't want to be out here
being like yeah fuck private insurance right we can do something better well and i one thing
cory booker killed it with last night was uh when he corrected the question when they were talking
about immigration and he was like why do you keep using the republican talking point that open
borders he's like you guys are using that phrase it's not even what we're proposing right it's like
you keep using their bullshit that's where like the dnc is like what
are y'all doing right now like why are you letting them do this like why are you letting them present
the the debate like this yeah and the other thing that was framed really well i can't remember who
said it maybe maybe it was yang actually but about medicare for all finally somebody said isn't this
better for businesses that they don't have to worry about right ensuring their employees anymore
like that's a cost that's actually good for business because we're all getting our health care from the same place.
Yeah.
Well, you know, we shall see.
Let's talk a little bit more about Mr. In His Feelings, Mitch McConnell,
because he got very upset that people had the audacity, the temerity,
to look at his actions and just describe them as they are,
which is unpatriotic and fucking absurd
and a dereliction of his own duty.
And being like, who the fuck are you?
What country are you really working for?
You know, he's been killing bill after bill in many arenas,
but especially on the point of election security,
he's like, nah, it's just we don't need it.
And everyone's like, how?
And we're slowly arriving at that point.
It's like, you really have no fucking reason to say no to this unless, in your mind, it's because you need interference to keep power.
I really can't.
I've really not heard him really fully explain why.
It's not necessary.
And this is new McCarthyism.
It's like, bro, you need to get your shit together, my man.
Yeah, he's, first of all, he had polio,
which we don't even have that in this country.
He had polio?
Yeah, he survived polio.
So he's like FDR.
Yeah, so like, I don't know where he comes from.
It ain't here.
They eradicated that shit a long time ago.
Yeah.
I saw this tweet, Senator Mitch McConnell's net worth.
In 2005, it was $2,962,015.
In 2015, it was $26,927,535.
That's an increase of almost $24 million in a decade.
So, you know, that ain't from the salary.
No.
He's got his eye on certain investments and things like that.
But I think when you look now, he's back in the spotlight
because two of his ex-staffers were actually lobbying on behalf of Rusal,
which is this Russian aluminum giant that is owned by Oleg Deripaska,
that oligarch that loaned money to Paul Manafort
and Paul Manafort had to get right with. Like this guy was sanctioned basically.
And a lot of Democrats are like, can you look into this? Because you have his former staffers
lobbying the government for this aluminum plant that would be built in Kentucky. And the only
reason this Russian firm
was able to make this investment in the plant
is because it got like,
it was able to have the sanctions lifted on them
that were initially imposed in April of last year.
And these sanctions were rightly placed
because he is accused of facilitating
so many of Moscow's shitty behavior,
like seizing land in Ukraine, supplying arms for the Syrian
regime, meddling in elections. And so we're like, yeah, yeah, we should sanction this dude. But then
Steve Mnuchin in December was like, yeah, we're going to actually lift these sanctions. We covered
that a little bit. But then McConnell actually had halted, like he killed a bipartisan effort
to stop this rollback of the sanctions. And he was like, well, this is completely unrelated to anything
that might happen in my home state.
A cut to right now.
And it's like, what the fuck is going on?
But they'll say that building that factory will give more jobs to the state, right?
I'd hope so.
I mean, just in general.
That's why they're doing it, right?
Well, yeah.
And I think also it's just a way for, you know, these other.
Yes. Well, I mean, it's for their aluminum business first and foremost.
And I don't know how obviously that's going to be run.
But that's the talking point that any congressperson can say.
It's like, well, this means jobs, but also from someone who is directly, you know, implicated or, you know, to put it lightly,
very forgivingly tangentially connected to rushing meddling.
Yeah, if anybody listening is from Kentucky
and they moved away because they wanted to pursue a cooler life somewhere else,
I'm going to need you to go back.
We can't have everybody.
This is what happens, and I'm guilty guilty i'm from missouri i live here now
we got to stop leaving man we got to go we got to reverse gerrymandering we can't just keep
liberal people can't just keep moving to the coasts and voting in california new york
we're not helping anybody man i mean unless we can get bake basically make uh the electoral
college moot yeah wouldn't matter but I mean, I don't think that.
I think, Kenny, I mean, we're not, I mean, it's going to take that kind of drastic action
in this country.
You got to go back, because if you want to get rid of the electoral college, we're going
to have to gerrymander it first.
We're going to have to play their game.
And, you know, go back to Kentucky and open like a dope little coffee shop and make it
more, take your favorite parts of California, New York, and go. Kentucky needs good coffee, too.
They need wheatgrass.
Yeah, they need wheatgrass.
They need a juice bar.
Come on.
Bring it.
All those things fail in their first month.
My avocado toast truck is upside down on these loans.
Yeah, man.
Everybody leaves, and then it's just the people that love Kentucky that stay,
and this is what happens.
But I think there are just as many people who are in those states
who have the right idea.
Of course.
Of course.
But, yeah, I think in terms of raw numbers, yeah,
how do you unseat someone like Mitch McConnell?
Because he's still very popular.
I mean, it's crazy.
He's been in, what, since the 80s, right?
Mid-80s, I think he's been.
Which, how?
Like, the things I've been hearing about this guy the whole time are just bafflingly bad.
Yeah.
And it's very public.
Yeah.
And he continues to win.
Yeah.
I don't understand how it is possible.
Well, because also, if you're conservative, you're going to love it, because everything he does is basically upsetting everybody who's a progressive.
Like, just during the debates, I think he ceded 12 more judicial lifetime
appointments yeah trump appointees so like he's packing the fucking courts and that's what that's
what he's doing while all this other shit is going on he's like nah man we're gonna put as many
conservative just unfit uh judges on these benches to listen treason is wrong unless it triggers the
libs and then i'm all for it then i'm all for it. Then I'm all for it. Yeah. You know? And speaking of Kentucky, shout out to the former employees of Black Jewel Mining Company.
These miners basically, their company went bankrupt and their checks started bouncing.
And this company was still like, yo, we still got coal to move.
So they loaded up a coal car and these miners heard about it and they said, fuck that.
They've showed up to
the train tracks and basically blocked the car from moving. They're like, we have not been paid
in weeks. My paychecks have been bouncing. I'm owed money for my work. You just did the fun
thing of declaring bankruptcy and all these workers are ass out. And it's been happening
since Monday. I think as of Wednesday, they were still there. I think Thursday as well.
But they're there for the long haul.
Like they've got tents set up.
They've got generators, porta potties.
Like they are absolutely not leaving.
A lot of the minors who are speaking to reporters are like, I just want my fucking pay.
I will leave.
But like, don't, you can't fucking do this.
You can't like extract all of this energy out of me, all of my work just to make your
profits and then
shield yourself, shield yourself with bankruptcy. Meanwhile, I'm left, I'm here with like my 401k
frozen. I can't take money out because I'm technically not fired. There's all this shit
that goes along with it. And, you know, I think people in America are really, it's, you're starting
to see a lot of people who might normally, I would normally say like, oh, you think coal miners like
love the coal mines. They love conservative talking points and things like that but now
they're actually getting they're the ones getting really hurt by this kind of capitalism where
they're like i've been fucking chewed up and spit out yeah and they just think they can keep it
moving well it's like it's it was a phony promise the coal industry was dying because we're moving
on from it right it's there's not money in it. That's why. It's
time to move on. And I feel bad for these people. I really do. But Trump promised coal jobs. It's
like, you can't just promise something that isn't there. Well, right. And then many coal mines have
been shutting. And a lot of coal operations have been shutting down because it's being used less
and less. And that's why a lot of the more reasonable plans to tackle climate change are like, let's help these people.
If you were like, you can still let's figure out how to use your skills or at least transition you to a job that you can do because we get it.
Like coal ain't it.
Yeah.
Let's figure out a way to work.
These are hardworking people, you know, like they're willing to.
And the risks that you fucking take doing this shit.
I mean, if I mean, if you're doing mountaintop removal that's another you know whole other conversation but yeah uh so you know
solidarity to them and i hope y'all get your paychecks because uh this is the fucking this
is the game man i hope everyone starts to see that like we have real problems with how this is
running and that's why when we're looking at candidates do we have candidates who can look
at a situation like this and say this is completely fucked up this is not how things should be operating this
is not how corporations should be moving and i have a fucking idea i have plans i have regulations
that i would like to put forth to protect people and then on the other side you have trump was like
uh how many more tax cuts y'all want you're like how much how can i deregulate uh the industry
enough that you can do whatever you want well Well, and Bill Clinton famously passed NAFTA too.
So this isn't like a Republican thing.
No.
This is the upper class.
This is what our government – these are all rich people.
Right.
They're looking after their own.
So we can't even say – it's hard for us to even say like, oh, look at – except we do have Bernie now.
We do have Elizabeth Warren.
People who are saying corporations do not care about you.
They are the enemy.
And yeah, that's absolutely because they're going to keep moving jobs.
They're going to keep getting rid of factories and all these kind of – I don't know what we're going to do.
Well, that's the whole thing with the Biden thing.
So like Bernie and Warren are populist candidates.
And honestly, that's what Trump posed himself as.
Like there was a populist movement.
It's kind of like the people versus the wealthy.
Yeah.
And they followed the Pied Piper.
Centrist candidates don't do that.
No.
That's not their shit.
They're kind of like, we just want to keep a chill for everybody.
Yeah.
And you know, yeah, some people might get fucked, but overall, I want to keep a chill for my
corporate overlords.
So yeah, I mean, I think honestly, at a certain point,
it will reach a tipping point where like, even if you're in denial, because I think a lot of people,
if Trump was saying the things that like Elizabeth Warren were, I think people would be like,
whoa, yeah, like I should be, I should be able to do these things. But the problem is the righteous
brands, this is socialism off the rip. And now they're like, oh, it's socialism. At a certain
point you will realize, because if this kind of predatory capitalism is an
existential threat to you, it will show up at your door eventually.
Yeah.
And then it'll be hard to sort of argue away like why that happened.
I just wish pro-life coal miners would realize they have way more in common with me than
a pro-choice billionaire.
Sure.
You know, that's really what it comes down to.
Right.
It's like, we're in this together.
Right. Regardless of how you feel about these social issues that keep us divided. Yeah.
Come on. Well, that's the next frontier is getting people to connect on a class level rather than
like a political ideological level, because that's where it's like, hold on, there's this 1% up here
that's holding everything. And it's like that meme. You know that one meme they always have
where it's like two girls in a fistfight and a dude's dabbing in the background do you
know have you ever seen this meme oh no it'll be like so it's like it's just this like shot of like
these two girls fighting in a parking lot and it's like a wild action shot like fists are flying
and the two girls will be labeled republicans democrats and the dude's dabbing it's like
corporations the dude's like what up because yeah they've got they care. Yeah, and they also have people completely distracted, right?
Because it's like, wait, hold on.
We keep looking left and right rather than vertically and saying, what's up there?
But we do have to be – I mean, I'm a liberal person fully, and I'm totally pro-choice,
but we have to be willing to like – there are people who really do believe that abortion is killing babies.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
Of course.
Totally.
Yeah, and – Which is fine. Yeah. I i mean we have to say it's fine yeah that's what
i'm saying is is that liberal people don't typically say it's okay for you to believe that
totally we say no and we'll fight as hard as all those things but we have to make room for the
these these beliefs yeah what do you mean how do you make room for that um i think i you're not saying
by just saying like well i guess maybe we'll find a way to like have a push on abortion right no no
no not not just saying acknowledge that yeah people do have opinions or whatever instead of
yelling at them just be like you know okay if you feel that way i'll be like okay if that's fine
we're gonna also let people decide what they want to do their bodies but that's cool that you believe
that yeah so hopefully you can just do what you need to yourself to not be the evil person you think people who get abortions are.
But at the same time, how about this?
Let's move on from that.
Would you like your student debt just canceled?
How about that?
Yeah.
Let's put abortion on the side.
Would you like to not go bankrupt because you have cancer?
Yes.
Great.
Let's keep it moving.
Do you believe that your child should have access to an education and
doesn't matter where you live that they'll also be able to compete uh in the jobs market great
like you know and i think that's the problem is again we're so focused on left and right that
we can't even take things that are just objectively a thing that is beneficial to people and embrace
that yeah because then you bring in the talking, but we're going to pay for that.
And it's easy.
Those rich motherfuckers are about to pay for it.
Yeah.
It's like, okay, you don't want to kill babies.
That's very admirable.
How about we don't vote for the people that are trafficking them?
Right.
Oh, man.
Well, on that note, I guess the three of us,
let's take a quick break.
Let's put our heads together,
figure out how we're going to solve this,
and we'll give our answer when we come back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017
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We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline,
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When you're just starting out in your career,
you have a lot of questions.
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The Fast Food Wars, the scoreboard for the Fast Food Wars is up. And I mean that in the form of the Market Force Information's annual survey of quick service restaurants, of fast food restaurants,
of quick service restaurants, of fast food restaurants, where they basically talk to,
I think, something like 8,000 customers and get a loyalty index based on how friendly they think the staff is, how quick the food is, the quality of the food, the cleanliness, et cetera. And they
use that to basically say, okay, what's their score on here? And they break it down into the
genres, if you will, of fast food.
And above all else, the one thing that they did determine,
Chick-fil-A is probably the most popular fast food restaurant in America.
The chicken is good.
I can't lie.
The chicken is fucking good.
Their belief is fucking terrible.
But the chicken is good.
Now, when you look at in the chicken vertical,
it's Chick-fil-A,
79% of their loyalty index score.
Right underneath that, Raising Cane's.
Now, I, for one, I want to say it. Have you had it?
I haven't had it.
I haven't had it.
I know they have one in Ontario right now.
It's so good.
If you never have it, if you go to Vegas, if you're in Vegas right now,
they have them all over Vegas.
They have them in parts of L.A.
Do they have them in L.A.?
Or Orange County.
But we don't have them in L.A., L.A. yet, which is weird.
I don't know why.
But their lemonade is delicious.
You get a little bit of crinkle cut fries and a little Texas toast kind of thing, a little garlic bread.
The sauce, delicious.
And these, oh, my God, we got Engineer Dan nutting in the booth right now.
And the odd thing is he's not eating honey mustard.
I wouldn't have seen it coming.
Yeah, it's very, very good.
So I'm like, you know what?
I want to start a movement.
Let's get Raising Cane's to be Chick-fil-A.
And look, I don't know if Raising Cane's has problematic business owners.
If they do, let me know, and I will eat it in secret.
Then Zaxby's at 60%.
I like Zaxby's.
El Pollo Loco, Popeyes, KFC, and Church's at the very bottom.
I wish Pollo Campero was on there.
Have you had Pollo Campero?
No.
Oh, man.
They have them around LA.
I've seen them.
They're good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I ate a whole fucking chicken once.
I wasn't even high.
I just have the strength of the seasoning.
Wow.
I like to fuck with Costco chickens like that.
Those rotisserie ones for $4.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The huge chicken.
Yes.
They put something in there that's pretty gross, I'm sure.
Yeah, it's called MSG.
Yeah.
But it's not gross, dude.
It's just a flavor turbo fuel.
There was a whole thing about that.
MSG's fine, right?
It's fine.
It was like a whole racist smear against Chinese immigrants.
Yeah, Chinese food and stuff like that.
You know what?
I bathe in it every day.
Now, moving on to burgers.
Number one, with a bullet, In-N-Out, 73%.
Then Five Guys, Culver's.
I haven't had Culver's.
Whataburger, still haven't had that.
Smashburger, I've had.
Red Robin, et cetera, et cetera. At the very bottom, though, McDonald's, which shows you, I haven't had Culver's. Whataburger, still haven't had that. Smash Burger, I've had. Red Robin, et cetera, et cetera.
At the very bottom, though, McDonald's, which shows you, I think, you know,
like people used to be like, oh, I love McDonald's or whatever.
Nobody ever said, oh, I love a McDonald's burger.
I did in 1993.
How old were you then?
Nine.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I mean.
You don't understand what a burger is.
Right, exactly.
And you wanted the toy mostly, probably.
I remember they were doing a collaboration, Looney Tunes with Warner Brothers,
and I had, like, I think it was Daffy Duck as Batman.
I forget.
Anyway, you know, I used to keep all my toys.
Not cool that Shake Shack's not on here.
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
Well, I don't think that technically counts as, like, by their definition of a service restaurant.
They might have a price point thing.
I think it might be if you have a drive-thru.
Oh, okay.
I think that's essentially what it all boils down to. It's got to be bad to be anyone that's trailing Dairy Queen in the burger polling.
Dairy Queen makes a pretty good burger.
They do?
Yeah.
I just don't even think of that.
I only get the peanut buster parfait.
Yeah, right.
I'm at Dairy Queen for the dairy.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
They had one when I was growing up in my food court at the mall.
And it's a pretty solid burger.
Really?
It's not a bad burger at all.
Yeah.
You just don't think of it like that.
Yeah, because you're like, why the fuck would I get that?
It's just wild that Dairy Queen beat Burger King.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, yes.
It's like, whoa.
Queen's in the building.
Yeah.
Yeah, Burger King's at the...
Wow.
It's funny, because you're starting to see all the traditional ones be overtaken by the people who are like, we do it, like we give a fuck.
Yeah.
Like we know that flavor is important.
So how about this?
Because at the bottom it's McDonald's, Burger King, Carl's, Wendy's, Jack in the Box.
I honestly don't think about those traditional fast food places whenever I've eaten a burger.
And don't get me wrong, like the idea of like a cheese whopper it sounds like great in a disgusting gross
way like to hurt myself yeah yeah yeah but i never really think of the taste for sure yeah i know you
mean i don't think like oh man what great quality meat when i bite into it like what a burger yeah
you do that with in and out i used to work at in and out and uh you get a um you get up to a double
double every time you work for free and as many fries as you want.
But I remember all the workers, after a while, you get so used to eating the burgers, you'll just have them plain.
And the meat is so good.
It's so salted.
The cheese is so good.
Yeah.
Yeah, is that you'll just have two burgers, two cheese, plain, and it's just delicious.
What's your order?
I do a three-by-three animal, add ketchup, both kinds of onions.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about you, Kenny?
Man, I haven't been enough to have a go-to order at all.
Oh, what do you think coming from not growing up here?
Yeah, I mean, it's great.
It really like, I'll say this.
I've done the show a couple of times.
It's never been on my overrated list.
You know what I'm saying?
It's perfectly rated.
It's really good.
It's like perfectly rated. I think that's
when it gets weird. Yeah, but it is.
It's really, really good. It's good quality meat.
And for the price point, too. For the price point,
the special sauce, Southwest,
Springfield. Do you have a lion's choice?
No. In St. Louis, I've had it.
Yeah. It's so good.
What is that? What is it?
It's roast beef.
It's like lit Arby's.
Yeah, it is.
It's like, it's incredible, man.
It's fucking, yo.
It's like prime rib roast beef or something.
I could not, yo.
St. Louis Zeitgang, please find me out.
FedEx me a Lion's Choice real quick.
And then, okay, let's move on to sandwiches.
Jersey Mike's, number one.
Firehouse Subs.
Wawa.
Jimmy John's.
Panera.
Arby's. And Subway at the bottom. I'm sorry, yo, Subway, comehouse Subs, Wawa, Jimmy John's, Panera, Arby's, and Subway at the bottom.
Subway, come on now. Why do I have to treat
Subway like that? It's disgusting.
Yeah, it's really bad. I'm disgusting.
That's true.
They found the same
material that yoga mats are
made out of in the bread.
That's a real thing.
Yoga mat, Subway, bread. That's not even kind of a thing, that's a real thing. They put it in there to make it more spongy. Yoga, Matt, Subway bread.
Oh, that's not even kind of a thing.
That's a real thing.
My friend Scott Lorsch told me one time,
I used to eat Subway kind of regularly,
and he said, would you ever grab a piece of the meat
off of the sandwich and just chew on the meat?
Loose meat.
Yeah, would you just grab that turkey and be like,
oh, turkey.
And I thought of that, and that forever killed Subway for me.
Yeah.
I was like, I would never think of Subway.
That's where you guys fuck up.
That's where you got to get tuna, baby.
The tuna's great.
Yeah, I love the tuna.
Someone, I forget, one of the Zeitgang people tweeted at me.
They're like, yo, confessions of a Subway person.
Like, yo, you'll die eating the Subway shit.
The tuna's great.
It's terrible for you.
And I was like, I'm in-fucking-destructible when it comes to that.
It's terrible for you.
It's all mayonnaise.
I think it's like 1,500 calories or something for the footlong.
It's by far the most unhealthy sandwich I've ever eaten.
I mean, that is a hilarious sentence.
Like, oh, yeah, you wouldn't eat the meat?
You got to try the tuna.
Yeah, exactly.
The tuna, though, is just good.
I don't care.
I don't know.
I'm disgusting, though.
Also, but in terms of loyalty, I'm surprised Wawa is third.
Because, I don't know, I moved here from the Northeast where Wawa reigns.
And you want to talk about a loyal fan base.
People freak out over Wawa.
It's a restaurant?
It's in a gas station.
And it's also like it's a whole thing.
It's the way you order.
It's like a touchscreen monitor.
You build it yourself at the computer.
So you've never had it?
No.
It's really really good.
But I know a lot of people from like Philly or Jersey
who are like, yo, Wawa.
They freak out.
People like, when I was living in New York City,
there was people that were from those places
that would take a day trip to Wawa.
They would take a train into Jersey to go get Wawa.
Wawa, we wa.
Okay.
Let's move on to Mexican.
And I think, okay, I don't even know why they even bother.
This should be in quotes.
Chipotle, Moe's, Southwest Grill, never had that.
El Pollo Loco, Del Taco, and Taco Bell.
Again, why am I always caping for the worst ones?
And also, Taco Bell is not fair.
It should not be in a category called Mexican.
It should be called just trash-ass food that happens to be in a tortilla.
Yeah.
Repurposed diarrhea would be the category.
What was number one?
Chipotle.
I mean, I guess it's not.
Wait, but they don't have a drive-thru.
Yeah, I don't know what-
What's going on here?
It's like an under $10 price point or something like that.
Chipotle used to be really, really great, but it's just getting worse.
I think-
Do you remember when the burrito was just so stuffed you had to be like, stop, it's too much?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And now it's just this big fat yeah dumb tortilla
yeah yeah um i love del taco i love i mean ride or die forever till i die chicken soft tacos all
yeah to me it's home and i used to work at a del taco when i quit being a pastor i was a del taco
assistant manager for fits a month that was a rough time man so what you got head right after
quitting and you're like yo i'm gonna work at del taco i'm live mine i was a screen printer when i first sat when i got that head oh that was rough it was
a rough couple of years after i quit being a pastor because i just always like to i always
like to have money so i remember at one point i was working for a year i worked full-time at a
gas station and i worked no no full-time at a liquor store and i worked a graveyard shift for
three nights at a gas station at the same time.
Just because I like to have, like, money.
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, I've changed.
I found the restaurant industry.
But Del Taco does everything fresh.
They cook beans every morning.
They have, I mean, at my Del Taco, we had a Mexican woman come in at 5 in the morning.
And she would start the beans and shit.
Oh, like she was taking it, they were taking it seriously yeah like del taco everything you
have there is pretty fresh the chicken's like regular chicken and they grill it in the morning
really yeah i mean it's not like taco bell where they add water and shit like that right right
del taco is very fresh and um if you ever get an opportunity to go to the del taco in barstow
that's the original one it's the best del taco stop at that delow, that's the original one. It's the best Del Taco. Stop at that Del Taco. It's different.
The original owner, it's the only one he still owns.
I think he's dead now.
But everything's about $0.20 or $0.30 more, but it's stuffed full of cheese and beans and fresh.
Damn.
So make sure you go to that original Del Taco.
Make sure you go to Barstow.
On your way to Vegas.
I'm telling you, if you ever stop at the – Everybody who loves Del Taco knows that that original one is awesome.
They bring out the tray.
It's like a restaurant.
Everything's a little bit more, but everything's stuffed and packed,
and it feels like you're at home.
Damn.
So, yeah, I love Del Taco.
Thank you.
That's my number one.
I don't think they have it in a lot of states either.
No, I think it's a very West Coast thing.
I still haven't had it yet, and now I will.
What?
Oh, yeah, get that.
I assumed it was like the Taco Bell of the West.
And you can go bold?
They'll put fries in this shit?
No, get a half-pound red burrito.
It's like $1.10.
It's just a bean and cheese burrito with the red sauce,
but it's fresh.
It's good.
It's clean.
It feels clean.
This pitch is amazing.
Don't eat too many items, though.
We better get these Del Taco ads after this shit.
Yeah, man.
Just get a couple of items.
Don't go overboard.
That's the way I hurt myself sometimes.
Don't do it.
Okay.
Lastly, with pizza, number one, Blaze Pizza.
Then Papa Murphy's, never heard of it.
Marco's, never heard of it.
Domino's, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, and Little Caesars.
Damn, come on, Little Caesars.
It's trash, dude.
I mean, if Blaze is your number one, I don't think you can count this.
Any of that should compare.
Yeah, you can't count any of this stuff.
Blaze is not good.
It's soggy.
It's fine.
Is it?
Yeah, have you never had Blaze Pizza?
Nah, it just never appealed to me when I saw it.
I'm like, it just has this vibe.
I'm like, that's not really the kind of pizza I like.
It's not good.
I mean, I don't think it's cool kind of if you have to eat something.
But do you guys remember when Little Caesars had pizza pizza and it came with two?
Yeah.
Man, that was a time.
And the paper.
Do you remember how the paper covered?
Yeah.
Where you'd rip that off?
That was real pizza back then.
Something happened.
I would love to see a history of Little Caesars where they decided to go with the $5 thing.
True Crime Podcast.
What the fuck happened to Little Caesars?
Oh, is that a real thing?
No, I think we should try that.
Yeah.
No, but that used to be real pizza.
Then they switched to the $5 model.
But you know what happened?
The 90s, man, it was all about as much as you can get for as little as possible.
Right.
It was a race.
Bang for your buck.
Yeah.
It was like every promo was like, get a fifth pizza for the price of two.
Right.
Like, whoa, shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And now I don't even think, it doesn't, it looks like pizza,
but it doesn't,
don't get me wrong,
I have to take a little
Caesar's to the Dome
once a year.
But I don't think of it as pizza.
What about that crazy bread?
Yeah, no, I just don't.
Okay.
I'm always, that's like,
I'm like, yo,
sauce them shits up extra.
Like, I want the bag
just dripping.
Pizza, pizza.
Yep.
Oh, shit.
Well, thank y'all so much
for joining me today. It's been, ugh, quite a journey. This, shit. Well, thank you all so much for joining me today.
It's been quite a journey.
This episode brought to you by Taco Bell.
Or no, Del Taco.
I'm sorry.
And Steve, I just have to thank you too.
You've had such an interesting life.
It's led us through such a journey today.
Hey, trust me.
On the stage, it really flies.
Yeah, people love it.
I feel like you're being used as a cautionary tale in churches now where they're like see steve he left the church next thing you know he's getting blown
in a porn shop and working at a liquor store working at teletubbies you want that i'm fine
now but i'm telling you those first five years after that were pretty right and you talk a lot
about that on your podcast which i've been on uh who's your god yeah who's your god check out who's
your god yeah that's a great podcast my movie podcast views from the vista is great and then we have a news podcast called them the male gays with alan strickland williams brody
reed and zed kutzinger we usually have uh women guests on too so great yeah where else can people
find you big her and on twitter fire herney on instagram bigger fire big focus on my girlfriend
on the instagram she likes that a lot yeah i. I look at the grid, and every nine, she gets one.
So you got to look at the grid.
People get mad if you put too many, but they get mad if you don't post enough also.
Also, fuck them.
It's your fucking account.
How about that?
How about that?
My Instagram's for the people, though.
Yeah.
Isn't yours?
Yes.
I don't know.
I use social media less and less as as i have to like engage like with
news and other stuff so much more like i scroll every now and then but damn like my usage is cut
the fuck down well i i imagine doing this show all the time you're just always hunting for the
next story right always hungry for the next story bro you never know when it's gonna where it's
gonna come from baby yeah i got my yellow jumpsuit on, my redhead wig.
Also, so you don't have to brag on it,
I'd like to shout out his show at the Chatterbox.
Oh, yeah.
It's like the hottest.
It's so good.
It's a great show.
If you're in Covina, it's every Sunday night.
And if you're a big comedy fan, it's worth the drive.
It's only a half hour on a Sunday night, but it's a great bar.
And, yeah, we're coming up on 10 years. Cool. So, yeah, it's only a half hour on a sunday night but uh it's a great bar and uh yeah it's one of
we're doing we're coming up on 10 years cool so yeah it's been great oh i gotta give you another
date kenny um and those are tweets you like big hern they're making you laugh all right one of my
favorite new uh persons on twitter is dana donnell yes she's a new comic yo i was just gonna say i've
read so many of her tweets and i'm like who is who is she? I'm like, who know her?
She's a new comic.
I think she's been doing it less than a year now.
But she just found her voice very quickly.
Her tweets are on fucking point.
Yeah, and she's so funny.
This one made me really bust up.
She did this whole thing.
I think it was yesterday or two days ago.
She was talking about how bad she is at sex because she just lays there.
And she went on a jag for like 10 of them.
But this one
really made me laugh um i'm so lazy during sex that i had a boyfriend refuse to use handcuffs
with me because he didn't want me to have in quotes more of an excuse to not move
it's really crazy because i almost read that tweet are you kidding really yeah but yeah she
went on a jag yesterday about just being so bad because she doesn't move.
And she's young, too.
Yeah.
I mean, I know Dana.
She's my friend.
So all of this stuff, I know she really believes, and she's obsessed with her phone, and she
is truly like this.
So it just makes me laugh even more.
Yeah.
Oh, we got to have her on because I've been such a fan of her Twitter.
It's one of those people like, I want to meet this Twitter jokester.
Yeah, and she blew up.
I think she's at 12,000 followers now, but like two months ago she had 800.
Yeah, I remember, yeah.
But she's just locked in on her voice, and she's so funny.
She makes me laugh.
Dana Donnelly.
Keeney?
One of my favorite Twitter peoples is Rachel Winitsky.
Oh, yeah.
She was on a while back.
She's on Friends Who Folk.
It's her group.
So funny.
But she does these great characters, which obviously is hard to share here.
But a written tweet of hers is, one time a friend was like,
I decided not to wear my new dress to your birthday
because I wanted the night to be about you.
And at first I was like, ha-ha, thanks.
But then later I was like, actually, what?
And where can people find you Kenny?
I'm at Kenny DeForest
D-E-F-O-R-E-S-T
and I'm that
on Twitter, Instagram
and my website
and I'll be on a tour
of the Southeast
in August and September
doing stand up
Cleveland, Cincinnati Asheville spots in Tennessee spots in Alabama check it out on a tour of the southeast in august and september doing stand-up uh cleveland cincinnati ashville
spots in tennessee spots in alabama check it out kenny deforest.com come to your show oh also i'm
sorry to let me plug i'm gonna be in december or colorado or in denver august 12th through the
19th i'm doing all the shows there oh nice boulder show david rodriguez showed for collins it's for
my first time it's my first time in denver oh, Zeitgang, I know you're in Colorado heavy.
Pull up to this man's show.
Yeah, I'm going to be there too.
Bring him some now decriminalized mushrooms.
Yeah.
I don't do drugs or drink, but I am open to a mushroom experience in Denver.
Wow.
Okay.
You've heard it here first.
Don't overdose your first time.
Don't go too heavy.
I've done it before, but I want a spiritual experience.
I want to go tubing. Yeah. Something like that. Don't go too heavy. I've done it before, but I want a spiritual experience. I want to go tubing.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah.
In the forest.
Okay.
Well, if someone can coordinate that.
You can find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram.
A tweet or some tweets I like.
So this tweet was from Tigna Charles' account, but it was from Andy Erickson at Andy Erickson,
E-R-I-K-S-O-N.
And the tweet was,
Laughter is the best medicine.
Crying is the affordable generic brand.
And
another one is from
AtTrapWater, blew up
everywhere. It just says, I hate
a weed man that got a life. The fuck you mean?
You had six flags.
And another one, Rachel
Senat. Okay, not to be a huge
bitch, but John Delaney has less followers
than me, and I tweet stuff like horny for
coffee. So, shout out
to you, Rachel. You can find us at Daily
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podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball.
And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making
of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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