The Daily Zeitgeist - NRA vs Legitimate Science, Keurig ‘Cept For Booze 11.14.18
Episode Date: November 14, 2018In episode 274, Jack and Miles are joined by Creature Feature host Katie Goldin to discuss sugar-monitoring groups coming for milkshakes with over a thousand calories, Tucker Carlson's lies, Trump's F...rance trip going poorly, Melania demanding a security aide be fired, the NRA's beef with medical professionals, Keurig and DrinkWorks teaming up to make an automated booze machine, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Sugar-monitoring group goes after “freakshakes” that contain over 1,000 calories2. I was at the protest outside Tucker Carlson’s house. Here’s what actually happened.3. Trump's Paris trip marked by missed moments -- and a dire warning4. President Trump blames Secret Service for canceling cemetery trip in France5. In a stunning move, Melania Trump calls for ouster of a top national security aide6. NRA's enemies list: Most of America7. Reducing Firearm Injuries and Deaths in the United States: A Position Paper From the American College of Physicians8. Surprise: Physician Group Rehashes Same Tired Gun Control Policies9. Why Can't the U.S. Treat Gun Violence as a Public-Health Problem?10. Nurses, surgeons fire back at NRA with pictures of gun trauma: '#ThisIsMyLane'11. Drinkworks and Keurig have created a pod-based cocktail machine12. Creature Feature Podcast13. WATCH: Che Vuole Questa Musica Stasera - Peppino Gagliardi14. The Daily Zeitgeist Merch on Tee Public15. Tickets for Daily Zeitgeist Live show at UCB Sunset in Los Angeles Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and unconscious using the headlines,
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It's Wednesday, November 14th, 2018. My name is Jack O'Brien,
a.k.a.
Jack O'Brien
has a halo
hanging from the corner
of his girlfriend's
four-post bed.
That is courtesy of
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at Dragonzorddown1.
Thanks for picking
my favorite song
of all time,
Doug E. Fresh.
And I'm thrilled
to be joined,
as always, by my co-host,
shut the miles, Gravy.
Don't say a word, Mr. Miles Gray.
I go crazy, crazy, crazy, miles crazy.
And then there's the part.
I feel like a color blue.
Man, Aerosmith, right?
Am I right, guys?
Shout out to Joe Perry, who I think collapsed backstage.
I hope you're okay, my man.
What happened?
Joe Perry, yeah, like over the weekend.
That dude always looks very young to me.
He does?
Have you seen him recently?
Joe Perry?
He looks like he's been living fast for a long time.
Living fast, dying old.
Son is a really nice guy, though.
I met his son.
He was like an engineer.
Anyway, that's all I got.
Thank you.
Oh, and let me tell you who gave you that AK.
Gave me that AK.
That is from Dale Chapman at AskDale1.
All right.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very funny writer and host
of the newest podcast on our comedy podcast network.
She is Katie Golden.
The podcast is Creature Feature.
What's up, Katie?
Katie Golden song, Katie Golden song, Katie Golden song.
Ooh.
What was that to the tune of?
The Katie Golden song?
Katie Golden song.
All right.
Yeah.
It's a jam, if you guys aren't familiar.
It's creeping up the charts. I think it's right behind
Mo Bamba by Sheck Wes.
Katie, what's your podcast about?
It's about animals and
how they're kind of like people. So we
just crack open those brains.
Oh, gosh. Pop inside them.
Very violent.
Like in the sense that some of them wear sweaters
and some of them wear little bow ties.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, so I mean, like there's all sorts of animal behavior that's very similar to human psychology.
And it's just totally wild, like animals that pretend to be other animals to like sneak around and be like, oh, I'm an innocent friend animal.
And then they go in and do dastardly things.
Yeah.
Pyromaniac birds.
Yeah.
Fish that scam other fish.
It's just, it's pretty great.
There's a lot, I learn a lot about both animal behavior
and like crazy human like mental illnesses
and like weird sort of hallucinations
that people have on the regular.
Hey, we're all in this kingdom together.
You said it, Miles.
Who's the animals?
Us or the animals?
Yeah.
It's the animals.
Gosh, God, I can't do a podcast anymore.
No.
You solved the riddle and there's no more podcast.
It's a great show, though, you guys.
Mind blown on the regular multiple times an episode. Everybody should go check it out. It's a great show, though, you guys. Mind blown on the regular, multiple times an episode.
Everybody should go check it out.
It's called Creature Feature.
It is a blast.
We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners what we're talking about today.
There is some sugar watching going on over in the UK.
They're doing the thing that Bloomberg did in New York, except this one seems somewhat justified.
So we'll talk a little bit about that.
We'll talk about how I was burned by my boy Tucker Carlson.
Keep me away from that one.
Last time I believed that guy.
Then we're just going to talk about the past handful of days in Trump world.
last handful of days in Trump world. And we're going to talk about the elections,
how Republicans keep talking about how Democrats are trying to steal the elections they're trying to steal. Oh, that they're trying to steal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Republicans are really
good at that. We're going to talk about the medical profession's response after the NRA
tried to kind of put them on blast and be like, stay in your lane, guys.
We've got this.
We're the gun experts.
And you're just the gunshot wound experts.
Right.
Just keep treating the deaths we're causing on the regular.
And then we're going to talk about Keurig and Drinkworks teaming up for an automated
booze machine, which was my nickname in college.
Am I right, guys?
High fives across the table.
Right after he'd huffed silver spray paint.
He looks like a robot.
Usually I cause Anna to just put her forehead in her hand
at least once during the intro.
Well, now she's got fancy sunglasses on,
so she can't do that.
I can't tell how much I'm making her cringe.
Where'd you get those sunglasses, by the way?
I think she's also just paying attention to her phone.
Favorite things list.
Oh, you bought, those are Oprah's favorite, wow.
Oh, shit.
No wonder you're flossing.
She came in with the shades on.
I was like, something's up.
There's a backstory to those glasses.
Okay, okay, look at you.
They are very cool sunglasses.
Look so fly.
Don't fly away now.
Oprah knows what she's talking about.
Katie, first we like to ask our guest, which is you in this case,
what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
The most recent thing is gastric brooding.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
I know what that is now.
It was actually for research for my podcast.
It does actually describe me, though, because I do have a sensitive stomach. And I also can be moody and be like, nobody understands me and my irritable bowel.
Right.
Irritable bowels.
But it's actually a type of frog, and you could find out more.
Yeah.
Well, go on. Don't leave us hanging now. They vomit up their babies. it's a type of frog and you could find out more. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, go on.
Don't leave us hanging now.
Vomit up their babies.
Yeah.
They,
they swallow their,
uh,
eggs and then vomit up a little tiny baby frog.
Yeah.
Um,
it looks like a Russian nesting doll.
It is one of the wildest things I've ever seen.
Of frogs.
Like,
like there's another one in there.
Miles's favorite moment from any comedy of the past 20 years.
Well, it's a clip.
Anna was like, have you seen that moment in The Watch?
And I'm like, no.
All I know is 40 seconds of one movie, and I love it.
The one movie with Ben Stiller.
It was called Neighborhood Watch.
Oh, Neighborhood Watch.
No, it was called that.
And then Trayvon Martin happened.
And Trayvon Martin didn't happen. A white supremacist then Trayvon Martin happened, and Trayvon Martin didn't happen.
A white supremacist shot Trayvon Martin to death,
and then they were like,
oh, we're not going to call it Neighborhood Watch anymore.
So they called it The Watch, and it sort of fucked up the campaign,
so I feel like not a lot of people want to see it,
but it does have a wonderful scene.
That movie is like the Willa Ford of movies,
where they're like, well, 9-11 fucked my career up.
Yes, exactly.
That's totally under my radar.
I haven't even heard of that movie.
It's also a very strange movie.
Isn't Richard Ayoade in it?
Yes, he is.
Jaina Hill?
Jaina.
Yeah.
Jaina.
Jaina Hill as well.
I don't know why.
Mine sounded profane.
I apologize.
Mine sounded profane.
I apologize.
But Katie, so in addition to tweeting, I guess we should tell people you are a birds rights activist on Twitter.
Whoa, we're revealing that?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Am I allowed to?
Oh, yeah.
I am the real life human who is totally very human.
Yes, yes.
Katie is totally a human being and not a bird in a human suit.
Yes.
That is important for us to acknowledge up top.
But you tweet as an adorable and often angry bird on Twitter, and it's one of the best follows out there.
The last one is, well, not the second to last one,
like when people do the clap emoji to emphasize words.
Yours is, I don't have misspelled hands.
And you also studied, and this is something you love talking about,
evolutionary biology at Harvard.
A little school called Harvard?
I went to school in Boston.
I don't know.
Oh, just this place.
Cambridge.
Cambridge. Yes. Cambridge. Cambridge.
Yes.
MIT.
Yeah.
So you know all the crazy interesting stuff about weird fucking animals.
That's what your thesis, I believe the title of it was.
Yeah.
Crazy interesting stuff about weird fucking animals.
I did do a term paper on zombies.
Did you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I failed it. They were like, this has nothing to do on zombies. Did you? Yeah. Yeah, I failed it.
It was kind of a risk.
It took a risk
and it did not work out.
Katie, are you okay?
If I'm remembering correctly, I proposed
two ideas and he was like,
this one's very interesting, but this one is
really sick, so do that one.
Oh, cool.
Fucking cool professor at Harvard, bro.
Professor Zombo.
I've been on a skateboard and he's like, I'm not going to educate you.
You're going to educate me.
Oh, gosh.
Whoa.
Do the weird one.
And I'm out.
Hold on.
Let me take off my Sony sports headphones really quick.
Mr. Professor is my dad's name.
Right, yeah, yeah.
What is something you think is overrated?
Mayonnaise.
Okay.
Now, you are a white,
and that is maybe surprising to some people
coming from a white.
From a white.
Yes.
What do you mean?
But hold on, let's get to the bottom of this.
What do you mean?
Like, you just think it's the devil's sweat? Yeah, it's
the devil's milk, curdled
milk from his sordid
nipples. It's just
the worst thing because there's so many
other lubricants you can put on a
sandwich. Well, I find
it weird that you call sauce lubricants.
I don't know. Have you ever had a
Subway with a bunch of Astroglide on it?
No.
It's terrible, actually.
It slips right in there.
It just slides right down.
Oh, man.
Astroglide does not taste good.
How else are we going to get a six-foot-long thing in there?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's nasty and gross, and it's old eggs turned into a gel, and I just don't – it's
got such an unpleasant texture it tastes
like nothing and gross at the same time yeah it just adds a dimension of fat or
decade like richness really fatty egg jello you can you could put butter on it
you could put like olive oil seasoned aioli a butter is an underrated like
spread for a sandwich. I agree.
Butter's under.
Butter's under.
I mean, yeah, that French ham butter sandwich.
Yeah.
When I had that, I was like, man, ham and butter?
And then I ate it and I was like, ham and butter, man.
Forever.
Anytime I see someone making scrambled eggs with olive oil,
I just flip out.
Call the police.
It's like, no, no, you don't.
It's butter, eggs.
You're ruining your heart.
Maybe a little milk.
Yeah, milk is good.
And then slowly whip those eggs together like Gordon Ramsay does,
and you will get a decadent, velvety scrambled egg.
But you know what mayonnaise is?
Have you ever seen the show MasterChef and stuff? Whenever they're trying to make Eggs Benedict or something,
or something where they whip eggs up, when they fail, they make mayonnaise.
Mayonnaise has failed Eggs Benedict.
Right.
Oh, right, because it broke.
The sauce broke.
Yeah, yeah.
It's broken sauce.
Hollandaise?
Yeah.
That is amazing.
The one time I worked at a restaurant, the chef used to just make the servers Hollandaise yeah that is amazing i like the one time i worked at a restaurant the chef used to
just make like the servers like hollandaise sauce with fries and oh wow holy that was your that was
your crew meal yeah that was a crew meal that we just like ate throughout and you know got steadily
well the way the way they make mayonnaise is it's just failed hollandaise yeah when they when they
screw it up they're like well this is mayonnaise now and they hollandaise. When they screw it up, they're like, well, this is mayonnaise now.
And they put it in a jar and put it on the shelf.
And they're like, stupid people will buy this.
Wow.
OK.
So I'm feeling a lot of anti-mayonnaise from your section.
This is a movement right now.
I love mayonnaise.
We did an entire episode that was just a close reading of an article by somebody being like,
kids don't like mayonnaise anymore.
Oh yeah, that one.
Where it was very clear that she-
Millennials are killing the mayonnaise industry.
It was very clear that her potato salad just sucked.
Yeah, and she was pushing back on progress in society.
Yes.
I was like, oh, because you put gochujang on it,
it's suddenly fusion.
Yeah, sorry my tuna salad isn't more lit.
Right.
Katie, what is something you think is underrated?
Definitely insects.
Incest, Jesus.
No, not insects.
I told you, those porn titles.
I can't believe it.
Identical twin meets stepdad or whatever.
I'm sorry, insects?
Insects.
Oh, insects.
Oh, insects.
Got it.
Bugs.
Okay, much better.
We're depraved here.
Sorry.
Yeah, they're really cool.
They're not, I mean, sure, there are some gross insects, but there's also ones that
are just crazy, like the orchid mantis looks like a flower.
It just looks exactly like a flower.
They're a type of mantis that have evolved to mimic a flower.
Oh, my.
No, that's an orchid.
No, no, it's a mantis. Okay evolved to mimic a flower. Oh my, no, that's an orchid. No, no, it's a mantis.
Okay, maybe you're right.
And it's-
I guess you're not lying.
Katie just pulled one out of her back pocket.
It's all squished though.
Wow, they're fucking crazy looking.
Okay guys, we're using Google image search.
Yeah, sorry.
Little look behind the curtain.
And it does this to like, when it's hunting,
it's just like, no, I'm just a flower.
And then bam, eaten.
Yeah.
The camouflage in the animal kingdom is no joke, man.
And like there's caterpillars, no joke, that look like bird shit.
Yeah.
That have evolved to look exactly like bird shit until they're eating you.
Yes.
Like, guys, go online, look up caterpillar bird shit.
You will not be disappointed.
I thought the scientists could have done a better job of naming them.
More imaginative than caterpillar bird shit.
Oh, my God.
They literally ran out of, like, Latin names.
And they're like, caterpillar bird shit.
Yeah, no genus name.
Just caterpillar.
Caterpillius bird shittimus.
You know, I've seen one of these, and sadly, unfortunately, they just taste like caterpillar.
They just taste like caterpillar.
You're really looking for that bird taste.
I was rubbing my mitts when I saw it.
I was like, ooh, yes, sir.
This is a good one.
Yes, indeed.
I was like, ugh, it tastes like caterpillar.
There are wasps that mind control spiders.
So they lay their eggs in spiders' heads and then mind control them into spinning webs for their future babies that burst out of them.
And it's just really-
Wasps are fucking terrifying.
They are terrifying.
Telling me, man.
So mean.
They're very mean.
Start gentrifying your neighborhood.
Yes, exactly. Yeah. But they're super cool. They don me, man. So mean. They're very mean. Start gentrifying your neighborhood. Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
But they're super cool.
They don't call them that for nothing.
And they can also paralyze cockroaches and then bury them alive for their young to eat.
Oh, that's nice.
So that it preserves a little bit.
Yeah, just like a living pantry.
That's what I keep telling my wife.
I left dinner on the counter.
I keep telling my wife, the earth is just nature's refrigerator.
You just bury the groceries in there that's how you excuse digging through the trash um yeah spiders are
crazy too man they're such good hunters spiders they they are and like there's actually there's
a spider called um a bolus spider that has like a little has a little strand of its web and a little like drop of goop on the
end and it literally you can like look up a video of it and it literally swings it around like a
bull a bolus is a type of weapon where it's like a string with a ball at the end and then if you
throw it at something it like wraps around its legs and you catch it yeah and it does this and
it like tosses it at moths and flies and stuff and And it like sticks to the moth and it reels it in and eats it.
It's amazing.
Right.
Yeah, it just lassos them out of midair.
Fucking spiders.
Really cool.
Shout out to spiders.
And I'm scared of them.
I love spiders.
Have you seen a close-up picture of jumping spiders though?
No.
They're so cute.
Are they really?
They're adorable.
All right.
There's one that has like a little dew drop on its head.
So jumping spiders are very tiny, and there's this macro photography of them.
And they're really fuzzy, and they have huge eyes.
And they've got even their chelicerae, which are just...
So the chelicerae are the little hooky things.
Mandible things.
Yeah, the mandibles.
And they look like little smiles.
Oh, God.
They have four eyes?
I mean, they have more than that, but those are the visible ones.
Those are the glamor eyes.
Those are the ones that a lay person would find.
Right, right, right.
Or if an eye is limited to the thing on the front.
Right.
And they also dance, so they'll stick their,
there's this one called the peacock jumping spider,
and it sticks its little legs in the air
and does a little dance.
Oh, yeah.
This definitely looks like a peacock,
and it looks like it's seawalking.
Katie, do you get all your information
about these animals from Pixar movies?
Yes.
Because this sounds like a scene from Pixar.
Yeah, she's like,
there's this thing called a clownfish.
They have really bad memories, some of them.
And boy, do they look silly.
It's called a Nemo fish.
Man, Finding Nemo 2, really good.
That was very good. Electric boogaloo.
A lot of fun. Electric boogaloo.
And finally, what's a myth,
Katie? What's something people think is true?
You know, a 2B falls.
So, parrots are not the only birds
that can talk.
There's a bunch of other birds.
Some birds, actually, their speaking voices are better than parrots, more realistic.
Ravens, starlings, myna birds, they can all mimic human voices.
Ravens and starlings, they're maybe not as good at language as parrots.
African gray parrots can actually learn words're not they're maybe not as good at language as parrots so like african gray parrots can actually learn like words and what they sort of mean right um but uh ravens
have a really good uncanny valley kind of human voice and there's this one raven that like this
zoo taught uh to say hangman's coming and it, no. And it's like super horrifying.
It's just this raven going like, hangman's coming.
And it sounds like a human.
Crows are very smart, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
They're both corvids.
Ravens and crows are in the corvid family.
They're both extremely smart.
Extremely smart.
Corvid family.
I knew that.
Yeah.
Oh, Miles.
You were talking about this earlier.
Yeah, yeah.
Totally.
I know all this stuff.
Corvettes.
It's actually named after the Corvette.
That's not true.
Because they're very fast.
Definitely not true.
Ravens and crows can actually use tools to kind of figure out how to displace things
too.
They use human beings as tools.
They do.
They drop nuts in the street that they know cars are going to run over.
And then they just go down.
Yeah, I knew that.
They're like fucking idiots.
I don't let them use me though.
I like to have my own agent.
You swerve out of the way.
Get your own fucking tools, man.
Crows have super good memories.
There's a study where these researchers
would annoy the crows
and then they remembered them
and would attack
them on campus.
Years later.
Yeah, years later.
They passed it down in Crow Legends like,
Jerry is such an asshole.
Shit on him.
Like future generations still attacked that same dude
who fucked with them in an experiment.
It's like, father, what do you want before you die?
Shit all over Jerry's car.
Do it.
Fortunately, they were smart enough to use masks to do it,
because otherwise that dude's life would have just been ruined by fucking crows.
Quick tip, yeah, if you want to fuck with some crows, hey, mask up.
You know what I mean?
Seriously.
Because they will remember.
Mask off.
No more.
I don't know why I tried to talk like-
Good pivot there, future Henry.
Mask off.
No more.
Never more, mask off. Qu future Hendrix. Mask off. No more. Never more,
mask off. The Raven. All right. Well, that's a lot of interesting stuff up top. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes,
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I was surprised by it that time.
What? We're back?
You said it.
So a watchdog group is trying to end something called Freak Shakes in the UK.
Miles, that I didn't even know about that you told me about.
Well, you know, I didn't know the term Freak Shake, but this group Action on Sugar,
they're trying to, at the very least, label like ovary sugary milkshakes,
if not outright ban them.
Wait, ovary sugary?
Overly.
I'm sorry.
Ovary. Ovary sugary. Ovary sugary. Ovary sugary milkshakes, if not outright ban them. Wait, ovary sugar? Overly. I'm sorry. Ovary.
Ovary sugary.
Ovary sugary.
Ovary sugary.
The sweet taste of ovary.
It's delicious, and it can't be replaced.
But yeah, these things they've labeled as freak shakes are just things that are like
1,000 plus calorie milkshakes with like 10 times the daily sugar you would need for a
human being. So one that they point out to is a place in UK, Toby Carvey. And I could be saying that all wrong
because I've never been there. So it could be Toby Carvey. I don't know. Holler at me in my
mentions and shame me. But they have a thing called the Unicorn Freak Shake and it has 1280
calories as well as over six times the recommended daily amount of sugar for children.
And I guess so that's like around 39 teaspoons.
And then they also called out the Five Guys Banana and Chocolate Shake, 1,073 calories,
with the equivalent of sugar of more than four cans of Coca-Cola.
Now, well, that's not bad, though.
Yeah, well, by comparison, right? So they also, in this article, they talk about the Medium butterfinger blizzard from dq only has 730 calories okay when the butterfinger blizzard is like your like control
where they're like see you could be as good as good for people as the butterfinger blizzard
i just you know i like the peanut buster parfait to be honest if, if I'm at DQ, getting my Q on.
What is the peanut buster parfait? It's just like a bunch of peanuts and sugar.
It's like soft serve with hot fudge and peanuts.
If you like peanuts, that's the way to do it.
I'm a big Butterfinger Blizzard guy.
Big Buddy Blizz guy.
Buddy Blizz.
I understand what they're trying to do because obviously for young kids, you can't be giving a child that.
But look, if I'm a fucking weird adult and I'm just trying to act out my childhood fantasies where my mom's like, you can have two scoops of ice cream.
You know what?
Let me be an adult and make those wild decisions for myself and drink the two pound milkshake from McConnell's ice cream.
Well, maybe they should come with like, you know how like cigarettes have warnings on where it's like they show you a diseased lung.
You know how cigarettes have warnings on them where they show you a diseased lung?
What if they just show you the amount of sugar that is in there and what you'll look like after you drink it?
Or like a necrotizing toe from diabetes or something.
Wait, so you're saying sugar is bad for kids?
I don't know.
Wait, we had it and I'm fine.
I was going to say action on sugar is just a description of what my kids are like every day.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, sure.
I hear that's a real thing, though, huh?
Kids get real hopped up on their sugar, huh?
Yeah.
Well, it's funny.
After actually Halloween, my friends who have kids were posting videos of their kids off their fucking heads.
And I was like, wow.
Yeah.
I don't want that. Yeah.
At all. fucking heads and I was like wow I don't want that at all
my son is still talking about Halloween because
he got like three lollipops
that whole night and
was just vibrating
do you like have
all three like chain smoke all three of them
at the same time there's something like
inherent to the human mind
about like the appeal of sugar
because he was handing out candy with me
and couldn't let go of it.
He was just like, the kids had to pry it out.
I'm sick, Dad.
I need it, man.
This needs to go in me.
Yeah.
Anyways, the war on sugar,
that's probably the health craze of the future.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's terrible.
I mean, the amounts of sugar we're eating
are just astronomical.
It's in everything, too,
like things that you consider healthy,
like orange juice and bread.
Juice is really bad.
Orange juice has so much sugar in it.
Like a lot of juice.
I mean, if orange juice is really pulpy,
you're at least getting fiber,
but there's a lot of fruit juice that's almost, if not just as bad as soda. It's just flavored sugar drink.
Yeah. It's important to remember that all fruits that we have currently, like people get worried
about genetically modified organisms. All of our fruits are made in a lab to be like extra full of
sugar. They're just like specifically bred with other fruits until like bananas used to be like extra full of sugar they're just like specifically bred with other fruits until
like bananas used to look like tiny little uh bird shits yeah they looked exactly like
they taste like caterpillar uh but yeah when you look at what they originally looked like
and what they look like now it's like oh these are all man-made things. And so orange juice is just like finding a natural way
to produce candy that is liquid.
I remember like when that whole, like, you know, years ago
when they're like, just check how much sugar is in your juice.
And I used to drink like naked juice all the time.
And I looked, I'm like, man, there's no way this, oh my God.
It was like fucking 40 grams of sugar in a mango.
Oh, and also, yeah, Anna is reminding me of my horrible addiction to Kern's Nectars.
Yes.
Which is essentially like concentrate.
Yeah.
Uncut.
And, yeah, so what?
I get bad headaches and I pass out every time I drink one.
Katie, you grew up in Southern California.
You know of Kern Nectars?
I do, yes.
Kern's?
Yeah, Kerns.
I mean, I had very strict parents growing up,
so I don't remember drinking all that much fruit juice.
I think mostly I got chocolate milk,
which I don't know if that's any better.
Right.
No, I'm the same way.
My mom, we didn't have soda or anything,
so I would have to go to my neighbor's house.
Shout out to the Shrek family,
not to be confused with the DreamWorks animation.
They had like, you know, we didn't have-
Sorry, it's just going to happen.
Yeah.
I'm going to confuse them.
It's the Shreks, yes.
And Donkey was their friend.
So you like hit them up for Kearns?
Well, no, because they had like the quintessential American sort of thing
where they had a refrigerator in the garage
and it was only just sodas and shit.
I was like, ah.
So I would just go wild in there.
What's with like garage fridges and like the bounty that they have?
I don't know.
That's a thing.
Yo, shout out to Americans.
My grandpa had a garage fridge and it had like had fudge pops and soda and candy.
It was a treasure chest.
And cocaine.
Just all the best stuff.
Just everything.
Like a human skull.
It was amazing.
And when I was good, we'd get to have licks of the skull.
And it was made of cocaine.
Well, guys, I have to move on to this next story because, boy, do I have egg on my face.
This is the last time I put my good name on the line to support Tucker Carlson.
I didn't know I was doing that.
I just came out as anti-intimidating his children.
But I got a lot of feedback from people who suggested I was team Tucky Babies after last week's episode.
Tuck team.
Tuck team.
Team Tuck.
Team Tuck.
I do stand by the fact that we shouldn't physically intimidate the loved ones of even war criminals, but especially their kids.
But you're not saying avoid direct action against people like tucker carlson and i think the way you saw the story too was
the version where people were getting like wilding out right yeah right and i think i'm also biased
against this sort of thing because i grew up in a small town where my dad was a basketball coach
and like a bunch of people when the team was really bad like came and put for sale signs on
our front lawn and stuff and that was kind of scary to be like oh people who hate us want us to leave right yeah what if you got like a really good
offer though on your house right yeah too young for him to understand like i get that it's
intimidation but right it was a hot market i mean where'd they get all these signs uh but anyways as
i should have guessed uh it turns out this whole thing was Tucker Carlson looking for an excuse to get his base of white supremacists fired up about the coming totally unfair anti-white supremacist battle.
Because there's no evidence of any damage to any door. That was kind of the point that people were focused on
and that I thought was sort of suggested
that the behavior was a little more violent
than would be optimal,
that they had like cracked his front door.
That was something that he came out and claimed
that they had like cracked the door by like beating on it.
And people have found the police reports from the incident,
and you would expect them to focus on the main thing,
the broken door, the fact that they broke the door.
But nope, nothing.
It was a spray paint of an anarchy symbol in the driveway,
I think, that they reported about.
And they also had those people who protested,
they brought legal observers on their behalf to be like, just so you know, we have people here who are here for receipts of what happened here.
Yeah.
So it seems like it was more well planned and less out of control than I thought.
So I am going back.
I will no longer be wearing my bow tie in solidarity with Tucker Carlson.
And yeah, fuck that guy.
Yeah.
I still stand by the fact that I don't think we should intimidate children of Adolf Hitler even.
Right.
But you know what?
But the thing is, that wasn't happening.
Right.
Exactly.
That's the thing.
But we get what you're saying, Jack.
Yes.
And you're uncanceled.
And now I will speak to you when we're both in the bathroom.
Okay.
When we are both in the bathroom.
Oh, yeah.
I guess people don't realize that we have a one-person bathroom.
Okay.
Well, what were you going to say?
Oh, just I think people complain about the McConnells at a restaurant.
You're like, yeah, we don't like you and boo.
I think that's good because that's non-violent not like it's
mild harassment maybe at worst but it's like that's a form of protest yes so as long as you're
not yeah i mean i agree like don't attack children and but like if you're just protesting like the
actual dude and if they're in public and you're like hey you suck yeah you know or like
organizing a protest uh outside their office um i remember one like i think oh what's her name uh
the one who was like not mccaskill um sarah sucks susan collins uh no the one like remember with the
child separations kirsten nielsen kirsten n Nielsen. That's when outside of her home they were playing the sounds of children crying.
That she had literally caused?
Her children crying.
No, no, no.
Yeah, the children crying that were in the facilities that had been separated.
And to me that is like you are bringing the suffering to them directly.
Absolutely.
And that is a good protest.
So I think that,
that it just,
it's not black and white.
It's not like never protest them at their homes,
never protest them out in public.
I think it's just like,
yeah,
don't,
don't harass their families,
but you know,
protest.
And even if her children were scared by hearing that,
like she was literally causing that.
So like they should,
you know, have to,
she should have to answer some uncomfortable questions.
Hey, don't put your family at risk by being a fucking racist.
Yeah.
How about that?
It's that simple.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Just, you know, know what you're doing and know what the, like,
yeah, anyway.
And part of my concern is also that it, like, is a bad look
if you are, like, trying to beat down someone's door while
their family's inside and they're at work but obviously if that yeah that wasn't what's happening
and also just on his kids and his wife's behalf there's no chance that they don't fucking hate
him like they definitely hate tucker well like anyone like anyone who has a dad who wears a bow
tie yeah it's like oh yeah wait till they're teenagers and you're like,
well, can we go to Rick's house?
He's like, no, dude, his dad, Tucker, is a fucking douche.
He doesn't even have a garage fridge.
Oh, no, he's got a garage deep freeze, probably.
His fridge is full of mayonnaise and Brussels sprouts.
Mayonnaise and Rockstar Energy drink,
which they blend together in a freak shake.
Oh, Jesus.
Let's talk about the last week in the world of Trump.
He went to France to commemorate the fallen soldiers of World War I with other leaders
and just took multiple Ls.
Left and right.
Yes.
Just constantly.
Good God.
Just like he was stepping on rake after rake.
Like sideshow Bob Terwilliger.
Yeah.
So, you know, we sort of briefly mentioned this yesterday, but there was a moment for him to go visit a cemetery where there are 50,000 American soldiers being that were laid there to rest.
And he basically gave the excuse like, oh, the weather's too bad.
And then people were like, what the fuck?
You won't even go see American fallen.
Wait, what do you mean?
And he's like, well, it was actually the motorcade wouldn't be able to get there.
And then he blamed the Secret Service about the helicopter not being lent.
All this to say is that he didn't want people to see his wet hair look.
Because that would have you would have seen the secrets of his scalp.
It was wet.
Oh yeah.
I think the,
like as terrible looking as he normally is,
I think Trump with his hair dry
versus Trump with his hair wet
would be like a raccoon with their hair dry
versus like,
if you've got a hairless raccoon
is like the scariest looking thing you've ever seen.
Like a wet mouse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it would just look, yeah,
because he's doing so many tricks.
There's not enough product you can put in there
when Mother Earth starts spitting karma on your scalp.
It's a very delicately assembled feat of physics
and any momentum downwards is going to mess with it.
That's why I like wind.
He doesn't fuck with wind.
Yeah.
He doesn't like anything that reveals.
Anyway, so that was a huge.
Yeah.
And then you like throw
his secret service
under the bus.
Yeah.
He was like,
they told me the people
who like they can't say
anything bad about
the president
and they risk their lives
to protect him.
It's like, oh,
they didn't want me to.
They're a bunch of assholes.
I can't believe these.
And these said it was
not secure.
Get a load of these assholes.
Look at these bunch of capernicks I got rolling with me.
So then there was a ceremony at the Arc du Triomphe where many people spoke, but Macron,
Emmanuel Macron specifically fucking shaded the shit out of our boy, President Trump,
when he basically said he's like, that nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism.
And like people were like, oh shit, I think we know who he's talking about and that left him very upset too right and then when he
brought his stinking orange ass back to dc he couldn't even visit arlington to lay a wreath
on veterans day here for the soldiers at arlington national cemetery Was there a fog, though? Was there a slight mist? No, I think that was a weather thing, too.
Wind.
Wind.
It was windy.
Oh, right, right, right.
And you're like, what the fuck?
You can't even, you'd think the military,
he's so all about honoring the troops or whatever
with his flag-kneeling nonsense and national anthem.
I thought that was their jam, like the jingoistic kind of stuff.
But I think that just shows you that there's actual no values there.
It's just they just weaponize certain things
to begin to win a rhetorical argument.
Of course.
And again, I have to believe
that people are seeing this, right?
Like people have to see,
like if Obama had skipped out
on going to Arlington on Veterans Day
or skipped a like honoring
of fallen American troops,
like Fox News
would just show a
him burning an effigy
like one of those Yuletide
log streams
like for two weeks straight that's like all they
would show Lou Dobbs would have the
worst hemorrhoids ever
and just be screaming with red
white and blue streaming out of his face
I don't know why I thought that but that's just what I saw in my head.
Do you think like some of – I feel like a lot of his supporters just –
they will overlook things like that.
They have to.
To an uncanny degree where it's just like, oh, I'm sure he means to.
Because a lot of the – there's a lot of like with political posturing,
as long as you can kind of get people to buy that you you are on their side, like you can sort of like be like, oh, you know, of course, I love the troops, blah, blah, blah.
But it's like all very superficial.
He hasn't even gone overseas.
That's the crazy thing.
He hasn't even gone to Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere that American troops are stationed overseas.
to Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere that American troops are stationed overseas.
And if you think about what would be the thing that he likes the best, it's like a good photo op where he's coming down off of Air Force One.
There's a bunch of troops there saluting him.
There's a bunch of horns playing or whatever the fuck he's into.
And he still has not gone to visit the troops.
Because he doesn't give a fuck.
Because he's scared.
He's such a fucking coward. He doesn't care. It's just because he doesn't give a fuck. Because he's scared. He's such a fucking coward.
He doesn't care.
It's just because he doesn't want to wear a flak jacket.
Because can you imagine him with a flak jacket on?
I think he would love to wear a fucking flak jacket.
He'd be like, look how cool I look.
Makes my chest look ripped off.
But I guarantee it's got to be cowardice
because he will go anywhere for a dope photo opportunity.
But he bought his own personal Vietnam.
Yeah, Bones Burst.
Within women's vaginas.
Yes.
Because he was like, my own personal Vietnam was winning STDs.
I mean, when I was in the tit offensive.
Battle of the Bulge.
Yeah.
But all of this criticism, I think, basically got him to a point
where we all know what Trump does.
When criticisms get too hot, he pivots by just tweeting out a bunch of wacky shit and gets people talking about everything, not about his utter disrespect or lack of respect for the troops.
And we also know he just has kind of a hostile relationship with the military to begin with.
Because remember when he argued with the NOM vets about Agent Orange and he thought the differences between Napalm and Agent Orange
and he was using Apocalypse Now.
He was asking about Apocalypse Now.
He was like, that was a good movie.
He blocked that veterans group on Twitter, I think.
Because they corrected him.
About a scene in a movie about Vietnam.
Yeah, but he doesn't believe it.
But anyway, so he had to do his classic Twitter pivot. And so he just went in on France and Macron and everything and anyone. So first he said,
Emmanuel Macron suggests building its own army to protect Europe against the US, China and Russia.
But it was Germany in World Wars One and Two. How'd that work out for France? They were starting
to learn German in Paris before the US came along. Pay for NATO or not.
Okay, Abe Simpson with your hot take on French defeats in the world wars.
Bonjour.
Yeah.
Cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
Yeah, thank you, Willie.
As Willie once said.
But yeah, and so that was like, okay.
Then he goes, on trade, France makes excellent wine, but so does the U.S. The problem is that France makes it very hard for the U.S. to sell its wine into France
and charges big tariffs, capitalized T, whereas the U.S. makes it easy for French wines and
charges very small tariffs with a capital T.
Again, not fair.
Must change.
Okay.
Really?
Why are you hung up on wine?
He doesn't even drink wine.
I know.
He has a winery, though.
I know.
What was that? Trump wine? know. He has a winery though. I know. What was that? Trump wine?
Yeah. He has a winery. That was the thing he talked to the press about after his Charlottesville
speech. He was like, oh, I know about Charlottesville. Yeah. I'll tell you about Charlottesville. I have
one of the biggest wineries in the state. You're going to love it. People died. I have a winery.
I've got the biggest mushroom shaped winery you've ever seen.
Yeah, so that was another odd, weird thing where it's like,
from all the U.S. winemakers,
it seems like the tariffs that China is putting on U.S. wines is a much bigger problem than the French ones
that they've been dealing with forever.
And plus, you think French people are going to drink Carlo Rossi or some shit?
Yeah.
Like, what the fuck?
They have their booty wine figured out, whatever they drink, their shit wine.
So that was another odd thing.
And then he goes, oh, by the way, this is another tweet.
By the way is how it's written.
By the way, when the helicopter couldn't fly into the first cemetery in France
because of almost zero visibility, I suggested driving.
Secret Service said no.
Oh, yeah.
Too far from airport and big Paris shutdown.
Speech next day at American Cemetery in pouring rain.
Little reported fake news.
Also, a literal pilot who you saw for the White House
chimed in and was like,
I looked at all the weather stuff
and the protocols we have for taking a helicopter into it.
They're not even close to meeting those things.
Right.
So find a new angle.
Yeah.
He's-
It's just, there's a lot going on.
I mean, the Mueller probe might indict
one of Roger Stone's homeboys.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
We heard-
Oh, the Mueller probe.
What was that again?
That's-
That this thing looking into some kind of collusion
with the Trump campaign in Russia
to maybe sway the election in his way. I don't know. It's some kind of thing they with the Trump campaign in Russia to maybe sway the election in his way.
I don't know.
It's some kind of thing they talk about on CNN.
It's weird just experiencing this news cycle firsthand.
It's just strange to sit back and think that we are currently at the top moment of constitutional crisis right now,
post the firing of jeff sessions right now
there's a guy in charge of the muller investigation who can like cut off funding right and they like
isn't there a problem with the procedure on that like it was supposed to be rod rod
rosenstein yeah yeah and now like i know maryland the state of maryland is suing
right to be like uh it actually has to be there's a clever thing because they have a lawsuit involved
where jeff sessions is named as a defendant and now that he's no longer acting AG at DOJ they're like well it
can't be this guy right so just for our legal purposes it has to be Rod Rosenstein there's many
angles uh for Mr. Old Whitaker to not be AG uh but then there's also like more stories like how
Kirsten Nielsen is probably on her way out at homeland security good riddance
but who knows what kind of weird aryan monster they're gonna put into that position uh and then
also uh national security council deputy john bolton's like right hand this uh woman mira
ricardell they say she's on the way out because she's been button heads with melania trump button
heads yeah yeah and in addition to that there are even grumblings that kelly was on his way out but out because she's been butting heads with Melania Trump. Butting heads? Yeah. Yeah.
And in addition to that, there are even grumblings that Kelly was on his way out.
But then there was a story about how Kelly was also butting heads with Melania.
And that could be a reason.
But maybe it looks like this NSC person could take the fall.
I don't know.
It's a hot White House. I just like I'm skeptical of it being Melania's fault.
I just like I'm skeptical of it being Melania's fault.
I feel like that's sort of a cover story to make up for the chaos and contention within the White House. Because it's like Melania doesn't like.
Always blame the woman.
Yeah.
She's probably, you know, having her thing.
She's having her period and she's like upset.
So I guess we're going to get rid of Kelly.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, you're a hot country.
This is a hot White House
Oh thank you Nick
For that hot
Hot Trump drop
It's like you're a producer
Nick Stone
But no they were saying that
Hot two T's
The conflict between
Miss Ricardel
And Melania happened
When she went to Africa
Right
And did her trip there
Oh I remember
She was like wearing the
Was it the
Like a pith helmet
Yeah yeah
Like I am the colonizer
Like colonizer chic
Yeah
100% She knows what she's doing And if not You know great Love your ignorance Like a pith helmet? Yeah, yeah. Like, I am the colonizer. Like colonizer chic. Yeah, 100%.
She knows what she's doing.
And if not, you know, great.
Love your ignorance.
Apparently, there was an argument over seating on the plane over there,
and there were requests to use National Security Council resources.
And then, like, that the First Lady's team, I guess,
told the president that they thought that this NSC aide for John Bolton
was like a leaker.
And that was the reason why there were some bad stories coming out about Melania.
So, yeah.
I like how in this story in the Wall Street Journal, though, they say they suspect Ms.
Ricardel is behind some negative stories about Ms. Trump and her staff.
Ms.?
Yeah.
Hmm.
Interesting.
What do they know? Huh. Hmm. Interesting. What do they know?
Huh.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Marriage?
Divorce?
Were they ever married?
She could never leave him.
She's here on a 90-day K1B.
Best she's ever had.
She's the best I've ever had, yeah.
All right.
We're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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And so there's a little feud going on between the NRA and a lot of people actually.
The NRA has an enemies list
that includes the American Bar Association,
the AARP and Bon Jovi.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, no, for sure.
Bon Jovi.
Even though he had that song from Young Guns.
You'd think that they would be cool.
I'm a literal young gun.
But apparently one of their biggest, their arch nemesis is the field of medicine as a whole.
Oh, yeah.
Right, because they do research and shit.
Right, right, right.
So the American College of Physicians published a position paper outlining the need to reduce firearm violence,
which they called a public health crisis that requires the nation's immediate attention.
And some of the steps that they recommended were like public health approach, which would involve
like physicians counseling patients to, you know, if somebody's injured in a gun incident, that, like, you would
counsel them. Like, if a kid in a house gets to a gun, then the physicians would be prepared with,
like, statistics and also, like, you know, be trained to help that person, you know,
make the right decision about leaving their guns laying around where kids are playing.
And they also suggested some legislation,
like some educational programs and laws prohibiting
convicted domestic violence offenders from owning guns.
Oh, that's just bullshit, dude.
Right?
That's such a crazy thing because one of the patterns
you see with these mass shooters,
almost every single one has had some issue,
either domestic violence or violence
against women or sexual assault.
It's such a pattern.
It's incredible.
Yeah, but what's that based on?
Your research?
Your fucking Harvard doctor?
That's like their stance, essentially.
Domestic violence victims need to be armed.
That's what we're saying.
The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun after doing
domestic violence is domestic violence with a gun before the bad guy with a gun
Oh God we're gonna work it out for you guys in a diagram yeah we're gonna flow
chart that one for you and we'll put it up on our Instagram but they also tweeted
out in addition to firing back with an article of their own
that was based on no research.
Oh, the NRA tweeted this?
Yeah, they tweeted an article that were like,
we wrote a paper, we can write words, idiots.
They also tweeted that doctors should stay in their lane.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes.
What are they?
They're really a way to capture the voice of a generation.
We're the gun people.
Why don't you guys stay in your lane?
Why don't you guys sit down in your little ORs with your little scrubs and do your little operations?
Right.
We don't need you.
And if I end up in one of your hospitals, don't fucking touch me.
And the annoying thing is that, more infuriating thing, is that it is possible to kind of shoot holes.
So to speak.
I didn't mean to do that.
I didn't mean to,
I'm going to excuse my first,
the Tucker Carlson thing.
Now shoot holes bits in the research paper,
because there just isn't that much research on gun control issues.
Cause it's been chilled,
right?
By the NRA.
It's been killed by the NRA.
Chilled, another way of putting it.
A cooler way.
So you don't say killed, Jack.
Right.
NRA and chill.
Yeah.
NRA and chill.
Just to touch on the whole thing, we've talked about this.
I mean, I feel like every time there's a shooting and we did a whole thing on like the history of the NRA's just sordid behavior and shit that they basically have made it so groups like the CDC can do no meaningful
research to try and actually quantify and offer analysis on just how dangerous gun ownership
and gun crime is in this country.
So everyone's like, I don't know where Where are your stats? That we have suppressed completely.
Right, exactly.
We leave that to private organizations to try and do that.
But the CDC could do a good job too.
Anyway, so let's just move on.
You know you have a strong position when it's like,
don't look into this.
Right.
A lot of doctors were saying,
do you have any idea how many bullets I pull out of corpses weekly?
This isn't just my lane.
It's my fucking highway, bro.
They didn't end it with bro.
But it did say, this isn't just my lane.
It's my fucking highway was the exact tweet.
And they dropped a scalpel like a mic.
Yeah, exactly.
But then it was on their foot.
And they're like, ouch.
Ow!
God damn it.
That was cool, though.
So sharp.
And somebody said, hey, at NRA, want to see my lane?
Here's the chair I sit in when I tell parents their kids are dead.
Oh, my God.
How dare you tell me I can't research evidence-based solutions?
This is my lane.
This is our lane.
So, I don't know.
I find that fairly convincing.
Yeah, I saw one where, like, they're showing a picture of their scrubs that was just covered in blood.
Like, hey, here's my lane.
This is my scrubs after treating a shooting victim who died on the OR.
Well, you know, I think the NRA definitely sees that the clock is ticking in terms of their influence.
Because it's already, like even in Florida, they were able to get a lot of NRA-backed politicians out.
I mean, they're still a very powerful lobbying organization.
But they're starting to get more, get more flagrant with their rhetoric.
I mean, especially with the...
I mean, it started with all the Dana Lash stuff and even beyond that.
But I don't know.
I think you can tell that they're seeing that America's changing
in a way that's slowly kind of coming against them.
The only way to stop change in America about guns
is not change with a gun.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
We'll workshop that.
Don't bring legislation to a gun fight.
All right, pal?
This is our lane.
Exactly.
They're so entrenched just in ways
that I didn't realize at first.
But all these NRA clubs for high schoolers.
Right.
They teach the classes on gun safety,
so they just have their- Here's Gunny the gun.
Right, exactly.
So I don't know.
I wouldn't underestimate the NRA.
No, I wouldn't, but I think FedEx finally cut ties with them.
More businesses, even though it's taking time, they're starting to realize this wasn't the
case five years ago.
Right.
So I think at the very least on a continuum, you could say.
I feel like they're going to just start lobbying to make doctors replace all their surgical instruments with guns.
With guns, yeah.
Like, well, we're going to have to operate and aim very carefully towards the aorta.
Right, they're like, you need a background check for that scalpel.
Yeah.
Hey, it's been done before. The Listerine invented gingivitis because they used to just be a place where doctors would keep their surgical implements to soak them so they wouldn't have germs on them.
And then they were like, this does not have a future.
Someone's going to invent something better.
So they were like, wash your mouth out with it.
What?
For real?
Yeah, that's where Listerine comes from.
So it's a barbicide for doctor's tools?
It was a barbicide for doctor's tools.
So when I just chug that barbicide,
that's okay? Yeah, that's fine.
I was asking, why is your tongue green?
I have the freshest of breath.
I know, but it gets you
fucked up quicker.
Have you ever had original Listerine?
The yellow one? Yo, my grandpa
used to swish that shit around.
I remember when I was
four years old
and it burned my
fucking tongue off.
It just doesn't even
taste like it's
supposed to go in the mouth.
No, it's like
nail polish remover.
What's your favorite
nail polish remover to drink?
Oh, definitely like
just the CVS brand.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you're fancy.
It's cheap.
Yes, cheap gets the job done.
Acetone free, though.
We're not trying to, it's not Friday.
Speaking of drinking things that get fucked up,
let's talk about Keurig and Drinkworks.
Yeah, I don't know Drinkworks.
Yeah, I don't either.
You know, the idea is very simple, right?
Imagine if your Keurig machine could spit out cocktails, essentially.
So you would toss in your pod, whatever one you want,
and then the drink would come out.
So yeah, this is a collabo between Keurig and Drinkworks
for their home bar system.
And so apparently they have 24 different recipes
that are all crafted by Drinkworks in-house mixologists
and beverage scientists.
Beverage scientists.
Yeah, you just put your pod in, you press a button,
and then the machine actually figures out how much water and carbonation
that you need to make your Cosmo or what have you.
So this isn't like that one juice machine where it's like a bag of the juice
and you put it in the machine and the machine squeezes the bag out.
Yeah, yeah.
What is that, Juicero or something?
Yeah.
Juicero, yeah.
That was a total scam.
Yeah, you just basically,
you could just cut open the bag and drink that
and that was your juice.
Yeah, this is a-
Now you tell me it was a scam.
Yeah.
Uh-oh.
You went all in on that?
I went all in on Juicero.
Yeah.
You're a board member.
No, but yeah, like apparently, you know,
it has all kinds of regular drinks i you know part
of me just feels like can it be that good if like it's already mixing like these other ingredients
like i don't know what what exactly it's doing like i know it says that their spirits are contained
in it already spirits yeah these are haunted machines We've trapped a spirit of a bartender in this machine,
and it'll mix great drinks.
It's like the toaster scene in Ghostbusters 2.
Yeah.
But it'll kill your firstborn.
Exactly.
Make sure you're safe.
Wait, so where the booze comes from, the packets or the machine?
No, no, it comes in the pod itself.
Okay.
And so that has it, and then I think it's just adding the water
and the carbonation to make like a, you know,
mojito maybe or whatever
the other flavors. I don't know what all the flavors are.
How is it? Is there like a robot arm?
No, see these are coming out
garnish free. Oh, that's not good.
It might be in a rinky dink coffee cup.
Oh, come on. I don't know.
My whole thing on this is as long
as we're moving closer to that microwave
in the fifth element that Leloo puts in and a chicken dinner came out in five seconds, like with all the trimmings.
I like that idea of the future where instant gratification is here.
I don't know.
I guess I'm just like, you would never need soup in the future
because it'll just come in a Keurig pot and you'll just put it in.
So all food is liquid, though,
because anything that can come out of a nozzle we can do.
Right, right.
And why would you want liquor that came out of a small pod,
like concentrated form.
That sounds really bad to me.
I would just swish down that pod with a cup of water.
Yeah, take it like an Advil.
Because I don't love the taste of alcohol,
but I love the social.
I like the effect.
Yeah, like being able to not be lame at a party.
So if you could just take, like, pop a pill that's booze.
Pop a couple Xanax
bars. Oh, I'm sorry, what were you talking about?
Let's not
advocate that. No, no, no. Don't
abuse Xanax, guys. Even if
it does make you the person you always
know you should have been. Play with
guns, not Xanax. But that would be cool to
take the Keurig as a
pill because it would take your
stomach lining maybe a couple weeks to go through it.
But then like you'd suddenly just get drunk in the middle of nowhere.
Right, right.
It'd be a fun surprise.
Yeah.
You're driving.
Whoa.
There's a wine.
What's that weed called?
Like Creeper or something where it like takes – you smoke it and then like six hours later you suddenly get high.
I mean I think Creeper is more like 30 minutes if you're really – I don't know.
I'm not a good test group for the effects of marijuana.
But there's a wine in Costa Rica that people are telling me about from the Coyol tree.
It's called the Vinde Coyol.
And it's like a wine that it reacts with UV light.
So if you drink it at night, if it's in your bloodstream and you're in the sun, it can sort of reactivate the
alcohol in it and you're suddenly
secondary fucked up.
Also, that
seems really dangerous, including
our idea of swelling a Keurig.
I'm looking at the Wikipedia
page. It says the wine is purportedly
unique in that it causes inebriation not primarily
by its alcohol content, but
through enzymatic action triggered when one drinks
it, then receives significant sun
exposure. Oh, that's what it is.
So you can get extra turnt up if you're
in the sun drinking it. Got it. I see.
Oh, but then it says it is popularly claimed
that one can become inebriated at night,
regain sobriety the next day, and then undergo inebriation
again in the morning without consuming anymore
merely by being exposed to the sun again.
Well, it sounds like bullshit to me.
Until we do, yeah, Miles' Coyol wine test at Disneyland.
But yeah, Keurig just seems like one of those things
that had a bunch of success with the coffee thing.
They were the first on the market,
and they made a bunch of money,
and now they don't know.
They're bored.
They're like, what do we pivot to?
Right.
Because other people have caught up on the coffee thing, and the coffee wave is dying
down.
And so they're like, we're the future of everything.
Yeah.
Well, you can also make glue in here.
And all household supplies, all liquids.
That would be cool if gravy came out of it.
It would be cool to have a gravy dispenser, a nacho cheese dispenser.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Fuck yeah.
Like a sausage link dispenser that just pushes out sausages.
No casing, just loose sausage.
You came up with the perfect idea.
Hello, Keurig.
I have a billion dollar idea for you.
Call it the sausage squeeze.
You don't want to see how that sausage is made.
I don't know why I'm talking like this today.
Katie, it's been a pleasure having you.
Thank you.
Where can people find you?
Please don't find me, but you can find me on Twitter.
I need an address and a zip code.
Don't protest out my house.
You can find me on Twitter at KatieGolden, G-O-L-D-I-N,
or more fun at Pro Bird Rights.
You can also find me inside of my podcast, Creature Feature.
That's so weird.
Get, crawl right in there.
And is there a tweet that you've been enjoying?
Yes.
So there is one by the famed author, Charles Tingle.
Yeah.
Talked about him on your first episode of Creature Feature.
I did.
He's one of my favorite authors of very niche erotica.
Is he a Russian novelist?
I don't know what his nationality is.
He just has that sort of like Tolstoy vibe.
Yeah, he is sort of derivative of
dostoevsky and tolstoy yeah uh so this is uh his latest one of his latest tweets he says please
enjoy timely new tingler meaning one of his books of holiday patient's name of pounded in the butt
by the unexpectedly early arrival of christmas decorations I think we can all understand this way in timeline of November out now on Amazon.
Thanks.
Uh-huh.
So his books tend to be like different things being pounded in the butt by handsome.
Yeah, he started out simple like pounded in the butt by handsome raptors, pounded in the
butt by sentient food.
You know, simple stuff.
Then he became. Right.
And then he became more recursive, like pounded
in the butt by, pounded in the butt by
handsome dude.
He's really spun off
into his own dimension. Right, right.
So now it's pounded
in the butt by unexpectedly early
arrival of Christmas decorations. There you go.
Miles, where can people find you?
Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray.
And a tweet I like is from Jaboukie Young White.
It says, citrus candles are a kitchen slash bathroom scent
and do not belong in the bedroom.
If you don't know the difference,
I don't know if you can be trusted with my body.
Yeah, because my God, fucking citrus candle in a bedroom?
Even in a house, though, for real.
Citrus candle, you know what?
I don't like citrus candles at all, full stop.
Makes me think of like a Denny's restroom.
Yeah, it's just I think the candle already invokes bathroom cleaners and solvents.
Attempt to hide the smell of poo.
Right, exactly.
As old Dave Attell bit goes, don't just spray that stuff after you take a poo
because then it just smells like lemons and assholes.
Right.
And you're not supposed to use it as a deodorant, right?
No, Jack.
You don't put lemons in poo.
No, not lemons in poo.
No, but he...
Go in the bathroom and see how much is left
in the lemon aerosol can.
And then give Jack a hug and see if he's noticed something.
Oh, gosh.
Sarah Squirm, at Sarah Squirm, tweeted,
just because your personality is bad does not mean you should do stand-up comedy.
And at Sarah Kami tweeted,
clit is short for Christian literature.
Nice.
Which I liked.
There's also a tweet from Andrew Quest for Iowa fan Brighman,
who tweeted a long quote from Stan Lee,
where he basically respond to people who are writing to Marvel saying like,
this is supposed to be escapism.
Why do you always like put your progressive values on us?
And it's a great response from the Stan Lee
so check that out you can find me on
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what was that mash that like and subscribe oh yeah what that? Mash that like and subscribe. Oh, yeah.
What was that?
Mash that like and subscribe.
Mash that like and subscribe.
He's not of the YouTube generation.
Let's try and get this video to 1,000 likes, guys.
If it gets to 1,000 likes, I won't hurt my dog.
If it gets to 1,000 likes, I'll upload my beauty tutorial.
I'll take my dog to Disneyland.
Get those hearts going, guys.
Miles, what song are we going to write out on today?
The real question is, Anna Hosnier,
what song are we writing out on today?
Hi.
Hi.
Okay.
To producer Anna Hosnier.
Hey.
Uh-huh.
What's up?
Today, I wanted to
recommend a song by
Pepino Gagliardi
it's called
I really don't say this right but
and it's my
romancing song it's a song I put on
to romance men
whatever the pronunciation
really is
you're turning red I put it on for my boyfriend Romance men. Whatever the pronunciation really is, they should change it to what you just said.
I put it on for my boyfriend and tried to romance him with it.
And he's always like, what are you doing?
I'm like, I'm romancing you.
He's like, you can't just put on a song and be like, you're romancing me.
And start moving your neck like you're an Egyptian.
You're like, what do you think of this?
Romance.
Aren't you falling in love all over again?
And I believe he is, even though he won't admit it.
So please enjoy this beautiful, beautiful ballad that, you know, I don't know, turn it on.
Is it an Italian song?
Yes.
And find your significant other and start kind of doing a weird dance towards them.
Undulate.
Undulate for them.
See if the romance comes alive. That is the romantic way to describe it. Undulate. Undulate for them. See if the romance comes alive.
That is the romantic way to describe undulation.
Undulate in front of your partner.
Let us engage in romantic undulation.
And tell your man, manjari.
And then tweet at me and tell me if it worked.
Thank you.
Also, guys, we are almost sold out for Chicago Podcast Festival on December 1st.
Hurry up and buy those tickets because they are going fast.
You don't want to miss this.
Also, before that even, if you're in Los Angeles, the city of Angeles.
Oh, the city of angels.
Yes.
We are doing a live show at UCB Sunset on November the 29th.
Wow.
And come through because that is actually going to be our first live show ever.
Uh-huh.
And you are going to love it.
Also, there is going to be a guest with us, a special guest.
She may be riding out on a Zamboni.
She might.
I don't know.
You can just take that for what it is.
She could be a hacker.
I don't know.
She could be the Mensa slut.
I don't know.
Self-described.
Self-described.
That's not my description.
And, yes, that's Jamie Loftus.
And what else?
What else?
Oh, yeah, and, hey, maybe a guest member,
maybe some zeitgang might make it to the stage,
and you could see what it's like to give your over-under a minute.
I mean, we can just tell them we're going to invite a guest up onto stage.
We might not, though.
Hey, fuck it.
If they're too lame, I'll be like, yo, y'all suck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, well, we'll at least invite them up.
And then when they suck, we'll be like, all right, get them back.
And then we're like, you know what?
Plan B, Anna, do your romancing moves.
Yes.
And Anna will romance you.
And unfortunately, all your boyfriends will fall in love with her.
She does an amazing feathered fan dance.
Anna will be there and dancing.
So that will be involved.
That was actually
the earliest idea
she pitched for a live show
was like not even joking.
You're like,
what if I just got out there
and danced the whole time?
With a feather.
And we're like,
peacock feathers,
underline, underline.
Anna was a dance major
in college,
so it will be lit
one way or another.
If you've seen
Big Lebowski
when he goes to see
Anna White's dance show, it's like way
better than that.
That guy's dance is so great.
We have fun here.
I do want to say that is actually like pretty, like a modern style of performance art dance
that I did study in school.
Did you ever do a piece like that?
Yeah, we do really weird
Oh, where's the video?
I don't have video,
but we've done weird
performance art stuff like that.
You have that old
paper mache cat
that's a MIDI keyboard
you made that you brought in.
I know there's video
of you dancing.
For people who don't know,
if you ever come to the office,
you will see a freaky
misshapen paper mache,
papier mache cat
that she calls Meow Meow.
Oh, dang, is that the one
that was on the front desk? Yeah. Oh, I love that cat. She's like proud of that as a calls Meow Meow. Oh, dang, is that the one that was on the front desk?
Oh, I love that cat.
She's, like, proud of that as a work of art.
Oh, it's beautiful.
If you move it, she will lose it.
Well, because there's a real cat inside.
Oh, that's the odor.
Yeah, she keeps spraying it with, like,
orange scent spray.
All right, enough fucking around.
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november 29th 8 30 p.m be there that's it and then also buy our merch on tpublic.com
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