The Daily Zeitgeist - O.J. SimpsTrend Jump Scare 7/1: Presidential Debates, Supreme Court, Mark Wahlberg/Mel Gibson, OJ Simpson/BET Awards

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

In this edition of O.J. SimpsTrend Jump Scare, Miles and Bryan The Editor discuss their respective weekends, the presidential debates, more Supreme Court fuckery, the new Mark Wahlberg/Mel Gibson join...t 'Flight Risk', the OJ Simpson jumpscare at the BET Awards and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 dude i think this fucking thing is bleeding now oh it's bleeding how oh my god it's like it's like you peeled off the tab on the on the milk on the milk it felt like one of those look just felt like a real standard hangnail at the corner of my pinky toe. And next thing I know, I'm looking. Yeah, this shit looks like I got a pot. I look like I fucked up my manicure or some shit. It just got a little bit of red on the side of it. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Fucking hangnails. But you know what? I can't say no to a hangnail. Can't say no to a hangnail. Yeah. I got a tug at it like i know every i think the smarter version i remember like my mom would always be like use like clippers or something yeah like scissors yeah yeah but i'm like nah man let's
Starting point is 00:00:54 just thug this one out now cut to my whole leg is basically gone all right let's do this mtv's official challenge podcast is back for another season that's right the challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season y'all and we are coming along for the ride that would be me devin simone and then there's me devon rogers and we're here to take you behind the scenes of drum roll please no no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama.
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Starting point is 00:02:55 In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist.
Starting point is 00:03:19 My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, Internet. It's your substitute teacher here. Sorry I came late.
Starting point is 00:03:58 My Honda broke down again. Man, I miss my Honda so much, actually. I dream about my honda prelude all the time yeah man that shit was that shit goes uh anyway uh this is this is what season 3 45 this is episode one this is the time we tell you about everything that trended over the weekend it's me the main mc miles g and the place to be with his homie b ryan uh the editor what's going on brian thank you for joining me today things are going good i'm sleepy because it's early in the morning i mean we all know you're a nocturnal animal so i really appreciate
Starting point is 00:04:40 you arising to uh pre-noon waking hours. Levitated up out of my coffin. Made myself a coffee. Yeah, doing great. Oh, man. Anyway, here we are. It's Tuesday. Wait, no, no.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It's Monday. Sorry, July 1st. If I did not make that clear, it's the first of the month. We are here. We're fully in the summer now. Wake up, wake up, up wake up wake up man people still people still fuck with bone thugs like that dude they better they better i know we do we do here because but also we're from la so that's just how it is um even though they're from ohio
Starting point is 00:05:17 let's get into everything that was trending but first we got to tell each other what we think is under underrated and overrated brian what is something you think is underrated underrated i am gonna go with let's see here what we got what we got what we got uh air travel what are you a time traveler from the 19th century um that is the angle i'm going with yeah i've not seen such contraptions. Basically. Yeah. That's, that's the wave I'm on right now.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So most of what I hear people talk about air travel is complaining or like weird shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I just want to acknowledge out loud how fucking impressive it is that you can get damn near anywhere in the world within a day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Or just being on a vehicle that's traveling 600 miles an hour it's just it's just nutty to me this is insane you're almost word for word doing a louis ck bit right now that he did on late night oh no really are you serious everyone to fucking complain is it really a thing oh no i really am watched you guys sorry sorry wait but are you have you did you fly anywhere recently no you know so so this is our tempo's been international yeah yeah yeah uh that's that's what i'll call my uh my significant other i'll just call it your majesty yeah yeah exactly uh and yeah she's been traveling and i'm just you know like you worry i hope everything's getting where it's going uh safely but it's just like most planes do
Starting point is 00:06:54 and it's kind of impressive but it's funny for you because you're also on such the cutting edge of technology as a person that like i don't know if you always have this perspective like with this one you're like guys air travel why are we complaining the fact that we can do it we should just be marveling with that meanwhile like there are no i know you and there is like no pair of headphones that is good enough for your head because they're failing in one way or the other i do have a pair that i i bought specifically for I just don't I don't fly that often. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I'm just saying like how the bar is different.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Like headphones, bro. I don't give a like I'm holding you to a completely different standard air travel. Yes, I get it. We're flying very fast. I appreciate that. But if I can't. Yeah, it's not moving. You don't move at 600 miles an hour that often. And it's just I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It's kind of it's kind of cool how like just the level of trust that's been built up over time also even though with all this like boeing shit all these regulation stuff it's still like there's still that level of trust of i'm going to trust this complete fucking stranger to fly me around at 600 miles an hour and get me where i need to go yeah bless the pilots and bless the drugs that they do to stay alert to land the planes um my underrated um and you'll know about this because we were both we both saw this video over the weekend this my underrated is canadian rap youtubers you know in the kendrick lamar and drake beef a lot of the time it's very easy to fall into
Starting point is 00:08:24 this binary of like america versus canada and america better because america invent hip-hop but canadians i think are just smarter people in general you know funnier people a lot of the time but i've noticed a lot of the fucking commentary i've really liked on youtube have actually come from canadians uh talking about the like talking about just their analysis and things like that. But there's one specific video, What's the Dirt? By that channel, What's the Dirt? This guy,
Starting point is 00:08:52 where's he from? Newfoundland or something? Yeah, he's from somewhere over there on that side. Yeah, because he's got every now and then, it veers into sounding Irish. He's like, yeah, Kendrick was in the dark on this one. I was like, wait, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yeah, he's got an interesting accent. I'm pretty sure he's from the East Coast. Let me know. Is he a Newfie? I don't know. But anyway, he did one of the wildest breakdowns of Kendrick's 616 and LA Drake diss track. And it is so detailed. I'm actually really blown away like every time every now and then i like i
Starting point is 00:09:26 like to go on genius and look at how people are like sort of interpreting certain rap lines especially when there's references that go completely over my head and some make sense but this video like it's sort of spelling every single thing out for you in a ways that i i just didn't have the depth of knowledge or dedication to break down a bar like that first verse in the beginning i was like oh yeah look he's on his like big baller rapper shit but then when in uh what's the dirt vid he's like this man is rapping as drake right now just so you know this is him fully doing drake to set up all this other stuff and yeah when they got into the details over my fucking head there's just so many little details um but yeah his breakdown was so impressive and it's yeah
Starting point is 00:10:13 it's unbelievable i mean it really is i think to the point where to connect all these dots i mean it definitely had conspiracy theory red thread on the wall vibes but even like his artistic interpretation of like what he was even rapping it was just on point so you know what shout out canadian rap youtubers we should you know love hearing your commentary um brian what's something you think is overrated overrated is uh i guess i'll go with uh go going out on uh on peak nights on like Friday, Saturday nights. Because let me tell you kids something. I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah. Yeah. And I just, I don't got it anymore. I'm washed. And even though, look, we both come from like the LA beat maker, electronic rock scene, like, you you know live music scene in la we've been to many shows late with fucking questionable venues but you recently went to a show that started at 11 p.m and it sounds like it broke you the doors were at 11 i've i i think i think i've officially given up so i i went out to this uh i went out to see an electronic music recital
Starting point is 00:11:26 and the doors didn't open until 11 p.m and i was like oh this was yeah i was thinking in the back of my mind that this was some sort of mistake and i was like no i'm all right i've done this a zillion times and you know i'm at home it's like you know 9 10 p.m and i'm like no i'm all right i've done this a zillion times and you know i'm at home it's like you know 9 10 p.m and i'm like i'm just like wandering around fully yeah i'm like well it's only like an hour or so until i can leave for this place and then it's weird when like you're up in a time period when normally like i in bed or asleep or I'm high watching TV or something. Not about to leave, getting ready to leave. It's a weird time for me to leave the house.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And almost as soon as I got there, I was looking for a place to sit down. And it makes me feel very old. That's why I get the bottle service stuff you know like uh not that i would ever do it but the human need as you get older to just sit down you know like and and i think that's where they got people in a lot of these clubs they know older people they might have a little more money to spend but i'm sorry i can't spend 1200 on one bottle of stoli I'm sorry, I can't spend $1,200 on one bottle of Stoli. Yeah, it's like I thought about maybe, but it was just me.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yeah. How long did you go? How long did you last? You said the no-size-thing went up at what time? I made it a little over three hours. So I left a little after two. And that was the thing. This place was just starting to get popping at 2 a. you're not ready for that no i can't i don't got it anymore i'm washed um all right my overrated wireless headphones
Starting point is 00:13:15 not that like i enjoy the wireless headphones that i wear but i don't like the emphasis on wireless headphones to the point that most new tech devices that have some kind of audio playback function have no fucking headphone port like everyone is presumed to be having to use airpods or wireless headphones or some shit this also comes up all the time when like i have older relatives like they get a new computer and they're like there's no headphone whole thing in here for the what what do i do and you're like i i know talk to fucking tim apple uh and the rest of these people who are just trying to do every like get rid of the damn air the fucking headphone port uh they want us all buying everything wireless but again what is my question is
Starting point is 00:14:01 technologically speaking what is the disadvantage of having that trusty eighth inch port available as a redundancy well the um the issue is that wireless headphones are so lucrative that um they don't want to see they don't want to sell you anything yeah the cheap shit anymore well it's just like it's a really it was always an interesting move to me to just outright you know they moved they removed headphone jacks from phones yeah and then you know here comes this wave of wireless headphones and now with the the the big over ear you know like your bows or your sonys they've removed the the the eighth inch jack from that so now you don't even have the option of
Starting point is 00:14:46 using them passively even the new generations of those don't even have the fucking yes some like i bought a pair of sennheisers that still have yeah where you can plug it in with a wire or usb but they've really been trying to lock down like you are going to buy headphones every two fucking years because we say so and it's pretty diabolical i have airpods from 2019 that i have not they're they're they're not look they're not great yeah that battery life is gonna be short life is dog shit one of them crackles unless i like beat this shit like i have to like fucking smack it and then it stops crackling um i should just get them replaced because I think you can still. But I was so into headphones growing up that like I always knew it's like this is a pair that I can fucking use forever or at least a very, very long time.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And yeah, with everything being wireless or needing like internal electronics or batteries to rely on it now, it's just. Yeah, that's that's the thing. it now it's just yeah that's that's the thing like headphones are they are a an electromechanical device that really should last you like years maybe decades like i'm i'm wearing hd 600s by sennheisers these were they put these out in 1997 right and they still sell them today and that you can and that'sspeed them across the room. And that's the problem. I'm sure there's people in these boardrooms being like, yeah, man, these things just last too long.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So maybe a person's buying one, at most, two pair over their lifetime. Because when you think about it, the thing that would wear out on your headphones that made you have to get a new pair was the wire would break. It would almost never be the actual driver or maybe the arm or something like that yeah yeah exactly headphones or the playback of the headphones i've never had a headphone break like where the speaker broke yeah i can't think of a time that unless it got like wet or something like physically damaged in some other way anyway so this is the
Starting point is 00:16:41 old head headphone hour um where we complain about late starts to music recitals and the fact that where where'd that eighth eighth inch port go all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about what was trending over the weekend because my god oh man yeah okay now so many things happen right. We'll be right back. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Woohoo. That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of... Drum roll, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of, drumroll please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama.
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Starting point is 00:17:58 Challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Fantasy football fans, the NFL season is here, and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues. The best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Come hang out with me, Marcus Grant, and my pal Michael F. Florio
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Starting point is 00:19:06 This wasn't just a new game Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists But the prizes disappeared And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture I just don't believe they exist My reaction, shock and awe
Starting point is 00:19:24 That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And we're back. And I think the big thing that we must talk about immediately because we didn't we weren't able to record uh our response to the debate was the presidential debate that took place at the end of last week which was i would say probably one of the greatest performances i have seen from joe biden and i am heartened to know that he is going to be our nominee uh in the election he absolutely nailed it um i didn't watch the debate but based on what i heard jill biden say
Starting point is 00:20:35 about him uh i believe that he won um uh god no i can't even fucking pretend it was so painful to watch i immediately got texts from people the second he started speaking people like oh no no no the emperor has no nothing i didn't see it but i did see a very uh illustrative uh clip on reddit of um joe biden in a debate in 2019 and joe biden oh my god don't even yeah side by side it blew all my hair off yeah yeah i was like holy shit that's terrifying this dude is a different person i'll play like this was this was one of the moments that a lot of people were talking about when I think it really was just visibly clear just how old Joe Biden is and how much trouble he was having just sort of putting an answer together. So for those of you who have heard it, I'm sorry to put this back in your ears again. But for those who maybe had just anecdotally heard how bad it was, here's an answer that Joe Biden was talking about. Health care, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:49 All those things we need to do. Child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to. His voice is already. He's unintelligible. It's very difficult. He's very raspy. Every single solitary person
Starting point is 00:22:06 eligible for what i've been able to do with the uh with the covid excuse me um dealing with everything we have to do with even trump's looking at him we finally beat medicare thank you president oh no no no that was really like the fact that he was even able to do like the office like jim looking into camera kind of like hmm yeah see this guy what was that you see this then there was another question he had about abortion and he somehow spun it into like like immigrants killing people it was a really really poor performance it was a disaster um apparently there was a debate watch party that like had uh doug emhoff who was kamala harris's husband uh jb pritzker gretchen whitmer
Starting point is 00:23:00 andy basheer uh there was also apparently Rob Reiner was there, was, quote, screaming about losing a few a few answers into the debate. And Jane Fonda had tears in her eyes. Oh, my fucking God. So, yeah, that is this your king? I guess so. But a lot of people were calling basically on the Democrats to replace him with quite literally anyone. And even like the New York Times editorial board, the loudest voices that we kept hearing were putting out Governor Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan or Gavin Newsom from California. Those are like the easiest first answer things you think of i think a whitmer is probably helps if you're you've become so cynical about uh like muslim and uh arab voters in michigan about what's happening in gaza that you're like well she can get the turnout that might offset the people that are so disaffected
Starting point is 00:23:56 by this administration's policies as it relates to gaza um but i mean just just seeing the energy out there, you're like, holy cow. And they from the beginning, so many people were like, this guy is old. His appeal to younger voters who you really want to energize a campaign is just not there. But everyone insisted all the time. Remember, there will always be people like, oh, I've been talking to the president. He is sharp. He is fantastic. the time remember there will always be people like oh i've been talking to the president he is sharp he is fantastic meanwhile we're seeing clips of him like where he's slowing down a little bit not quite giving the most concise answers as he could and yeah i mean like the the democrats really completely fucking are they're just revealing why i think there's so much criticism
Starting point is 00:24:42 of how they're doing things because they can't even respond to something like this without like immediately attacking people being like joe biden did great we're gonna be fine uh and it's just like now the you know the polls again are nothing really indicative of much but in terms of people's opinions right now uh now almost 40 or no 46 percent of democrats are now saying saying Biden should not be running for president anymore. Yeah, it's a bad, bad, bad look on both sides of the aisle. But I mean, just this is just. It's just real depressing that this is where we're at and these are what are considered our most viable options. what are considered our most viable options right it's just like yeah it's just being stuck in that in that room of like well well we have to go with someone who could win yeah not what will not what
Starting point is 00:25:35 like what's your platform is or it's just this isn't democracy to me where you're sort of forced into these really unfavorable like decisions that you have to make of like well i have to put aside all my you know ideals to win this horse race it's it's i think it's just absolutely it's so cynical for democrats like this like this election is the most important election of our lives democracy is but i'm not going to be voting on platforms i'm just going to be voting on the horse i think will be the fastest vote on democracy is on the line but if democracy if if things are that important and existential to us and you're still like and then this is the guy who's going to go into the
Starting point is 00:26:22 fight for america's the soul of America's quote unquote democracy. You immediately be like, bro, that's, that's who you're, that's the fighter you're picking and street fighter. Yeah. This is your champion.
Starting point is 00:26:34 This dude came. What? Well, I thought, I thought the stakes were high. Uh, okay. Um,
Starting point is 00:26:41 but yeah. And I, I think Eamon Ismael, who's a former guest who comes on the show pretty frequently he wrote a piece in slate about saying like you know just the idea to keep forcing this uh this option down people's throats without actually considering what people are asking for as people you know as potential democratic voters are saying this is what we're interested in what will you do to earn my vote?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Rather than being like, this is fucking what you got. Do you want democracy to fucking die? I don't want to fucking hear anything else about it. Yeah, the rhetoric around it is so like it's it's it's so aggressive. And it's it's like if you say something to the contrary of like, oh, I don't want to vote for him because his policies are bad. And oh, she wants democracy to die. No, I don't want to vote for him because his policies are bad and oh she wants democracy to die no i don't what i'm saying is i would prefer someone else can is that okay or do you or can you get him to maybe change some things about his platform that might make me more open rather than
Starting point is 00:27:38 being like well if you don't you know your fucking grandma and your favorite pets are going to be killed by donald trump so yeah is that what you want no but i think it's just so manipulative i think we're fundamentally not understanding how this works and obviously a lot of people who who look at america's politics with sober eyes are like look this is never really a true democracy in that sense but even in the sense of trying to get like just in like a wanting people to like you sort of sense you kind of got to listen what people are asking for and then you kind of show that so then they go oh okay there's that person i can support but yeah we will see what happens i i think
Starting point is 00:28:18 you know apparently jill biden and uh hunter biden are the ones that have been like, you got to stay in. You got to stay in. I don't think so. No. And also, like, it was really uncomfortable how, like, after the debate, Jill Biden was sort of like gassing Joe up about, like, how well he did, even though. Well, clearly, like the chyrons that were running, like at the end of the debate on every news channel were like Dems panicking over that debate performance. This is what Jill Biden says to Joe on stage. Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question. And let me ask the crowd, what did Trump do?
Starting point is 00:29:04 And let me ask the crowd, what did Trump do? Oh, my God. This is called encouraging someone to death. Yeah, it's she had the same energy as like a preschool teacher. You did such a great job. Here's one graham cracker. You had a gold star on your forehead. Here's a gold star.
Starting point is 00:29:25 You do all the facts. Here's some gold star. You knew all the facts. Here's some goldfish crackers. You did it. Yay. Okay, here's your little diploma. Now keep it. I mean, also, when you see this, you're like, this is just a family that's hell-bent on holding onto their power. They could give a rat's ass about what the outcome is of this election.
Starting point is 00:29:44 They just don't want to be the people saying, we can't do it anymore anymore so yeah um very inspiring very inspiring we'll see what happens i was i was telling a friend i'm like i don't know how you're gonna like obviously there are people who are gonna vote for joe biden no matter what but for anybody who is like like needing a better reason he better start giving some kind of reason like you better start making it rain social spending or some shit or or he'll do the thing like he promises and it doesn't happen i'm calling it right now well i called it a couple months ago actually but i feel like he's gonna start piping up and saying the things that people want to hear much closer to the election so that it's fresh in everyone's mind that oh i do actually want to cease fire now um right and whatever the fuck else he can come up with to to you know curry favor with voters
Starting point is 00:30:31 yeah i feel i feel like he's just waiting like he just like there's no way he doesn't know what people want to fucking hear he needs a meet the grams level red button track that he can drop on people to completely change the narrative and then follow it up with not like us yeah i just feel like in like september october he's gonna like start piping up about stuff well yeah it's very early but again like when you have these kinds of performances that now it's fully like the the debate or rhetorically this is exactly where the republicans want to be is to just be like the guys old, the guys old, the guys old, the guys old, the guys old, the guys old, the guys old, the guys old. And yeah, so we'll see. I don't think heads are going to roll up in terms of like his at like Biden's advisers or anything really happening at the DNC.
Starting point is 00:31:21 But we shall see. Let's also talk about the supreme court because they have continued to be trashed through the end of last week um they just ruled this morning monday uh that trump does actually have some form of absolute immunity uh for official acts while in office the court didn't agree with trump's like absurdly broad definition but again this is such a blatant act of meddling and is clearly a moment where as justice katanji brown jackson said the seeds of absolute power have been planted you know so now yeah so now the this the decision basically sends this case back to the lower court where District Judge Tanya Chutkin can hear
Starting point is 00:32:06 arguments over again where they're going to have to decide what actually constitutes an official act by the former president. So talking to the DOJ about overturning the election is protected by his immunity in this case. But the court, again, wasn't really defining what are technically official acts so we will see what judge shutkin has to say for special counsel jack smith's case this means that the case like the scope of the case will probably change and justice sotomayor's dissent um is really fucking i mean that this is this is part of it as she obviously like most people were disturbed by what the conservative justices did on the bench quote when the president uses his official powers
Starting point is 00:32:50 in any way under the majority's reasoning he will now be insulated from criminal prosecution orders the navy's seal team six to assassinate a political rival immune organizes a military coup to hold on to power immune takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon immune immune immune immune let the president violate the law let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain let him use his official power for evil ends because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be that is the majority's message today Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do,
Starting point is 00:33:27 the damage has been done. The relationship between the president and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law. Tight. Awesome. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I don't know. Now, like on the internet, now everyone's like, well, I guess Joe Biden with that. Now, you know, do whatever you got to do, baby, because they just ruled that you can do, you know, official acts are protected and you are immune. So we still haven't heard officially what the White House has said about this decision. But yeah, I mean, like, my God, at this point, maybe you can just create some vacancies on the Supreme Court bench, because maybe that can be within your official scope. Or sit commander on them or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah. Send out your attack dog. Yeah, come through. I'm doing a pet adoption. I'd love to have you guys over. Just check this out. Is that a dire wolf from Game of Thrones? Yeah, pretty cool, right? They thought they were mythical. So then also, aside from that that the supreme court also concluded that january 6 rioters did not quote obstruct or impede the congressional proceeding to certify the
Starting point is 00:34:31 election in a six to three decision that broke down uh ideological lines interesting again everyone's like this is oh wow holy shit this is like unbelievable that holy shit, this is unbelievable. But they've, again, gone to a more textual reading of the law to basically be like, well, in this case, it didn't technically destroy documents or something like that. So can we really call it? Which is false. I literally have this footage everywhere of them destroying documents. Well, like the ones that they were using to
Starting point is 00:35:05 certify the election those documents yeah yeah yeah so that's so that's all good um and that obviously may have an effect on what's happening with Trump's uh legal predicaments as well uh and as we touched on last week they also made it legal for you you know, to bribe government officials, if you call it a gratuity and do it after the fact, not before, because that's shady. Yeah, they get tips now, too. It's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. They overturned the Chevron doctrine, which essentially made courts defer to federal agencies in legal dispute where there's any ambiguity. where there's any ambiguity um so you know if there's like an epa case that's talking about like systems to combat pollution or whatever you know they the judge would normally have to defer to what the agency was defining as a system or whatever or whatever like the ambiguity was in
Starting point is 00:35:57 a language because also when you write these laws you need some wiggle room to be able to adapt things for the future uh but in this instance this is giving judges power to interpret those things which is very dangerous considering that the challenge to chevron deference um is basically quote part of an extensive campaign by industry and their allies to unravel federal authority to regulate food safety clean air clean water protections from consumer fraud and more the stakes for people's lives are profound uh in legal disputes over ambiguous statutes chevron says again judges within reason ought to defer to federal agencies understanding of those statutes uh so yeah today this is uh someone from the southern environmental law center said quote
Starting point is 00:36:46 today's ruling sidelines the role of agency expertise and instead shifts power to judges who do not have the expertise of agency staff who live and breathe the science financial principles and safety concerns that federal agencies specialize in so there's that and then they criminalized basically being unhoused uh we we this Grants Pass case when Rhiannon came on talking about Supreme Court decisions. But yeah, again, 6-3 broke in favor of the really fucked up regressive way of even looking at what a person is or what they can do, which is that now uh they you people cannot be sleeping outside and local governments can now uh criminalize people for being in encampments uh so to my more so more so yeah exactly i mean it's already so hostile and it's just so bizarre to be like well it's illegal to be asleep outside even though you live in this country where our rules are created as such where some people that's the only option they have and we also have again but we're a court
Starting point is 00:37:50 we have no you know interest in how to remedy that specific part but given all that we do think that it should be criminal uh to be unhoused essentially so uh a lot of whole lot of bullshit going down with this really making a big push. I mean, it's just again, even with this, like it's so unnecessarily cruel. And it also goes against all the fucking evidence that shows that criminalizing being unhoused does not work and if for people for all the fiscal conservatism that is that exists out there it's also it's cheaper to actually find ways to get people housed than to just have this endless cycle of like criminalizing unhoused people i mean i think you're being way too charitable with this like there's no one's trying to do the right thing here no no but i'm saying but i think but it's important that we know what these truths are and how everything disregards all of that like
Starting point is 00:38:50 obviously i understand that there's no interest in doing that but the facts are still there that it's actually it's all the better option is always to actually sort out the problem fiscally uh socially all of that it's not because uh it's because someone has an eyesore about their property values because someone is unhoused living near them but yeah it's a it's a cruel world we live in it's a very cruel world in an even crueler country so let's take another break we'll come back and at least we can talk about the new Mark Wahlberg joint directed by Mel Gibson right after this. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all.
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Starting point is 00:42:48 entirely in an airplane and like at first i was like is this is could this actually be something to do with his 9-11 fantasies because like the blog line you're not sure it's it says quote a pilot transports an air marshal accompanying a fugitive to trial as they cross the Alaskan wilderness. Tension sore and trust is tested as not everyone on board is who they seem. And I was like, oh, shit, is he going to fight someone like is he the cop or whatever? Because as we all know, he famously said he was supposed to be on one of those planes on 9-11. And if he was on there, it wouldn't. He said, quote, if I was11 and if he was on there it wouldn't he said quote if i was on that plane with my kids it wouldn't went down like it did there would have been a lot
Starting point is 00:43:30 of blood in that first class cabin and then i'm saying okay where are we gonna land but i said okay we're gonna land somewhere safely don't worry say say hello to your mother for me um and then he later obviously apologized because they're like what the fuck are you talking about dude so the movie turns out is not him fighting terrorists to reverse 9-11 even though the description doesn't even imply that yeah i thought it was going to be like um like passenger for 57 with a white guy or something yeah um yeah apparently mark walberg he's the pilot who's actually a hitman trying to kill his passenger which is played by tofer grace um from that 70s show yeah and the air marshal michelle dockery uh so but he also i don't know man he's i don't know why he had to be bald there was a moment where he's wearing a hat and then his hat gets blown off and then you see like how like his male pattern baldness and i'm like wow bro yeah it's quite a lot of me um
Starting point is 00:44:31 seeing mark walberg with that uh with with his hairline just blown completely back being like hey i'm a wacky hitman pilot bro i'm like why why did he have to be bald yeah i i do i you know uh mel gibson like god i can't remember the last what was the last thing he was in that i saw was what's that what was that he was in daddy's home what was that one thing he did with mark walberg oh i don't remember the last thing i saw him in as an actor was uh dragged across concrete where he played a shitty cop and i was like appropriate appropriate casting i'm not gonna say makes sense for him you could have gotten someone else but i mean if you want a piece of shit grizzled visage of a cop there it is not a bad choice aside from this specific film we haven't what was the last
Starting point is 00:45:27 air air like big airplane thriller movie we had that really caught caught us all it's it's kind of a i don't want to say it's a dead genre but i remember in the 90s there were a lot of airplane movies shit going down on airplay air force one past year 57 uh all this stuff and i'm it just sort of fell after out of favor for some reason in the early 2000s and i'm not sure why anyway i mean flight plan was 2005 flight plan which one was jody foster oh i missed that one um that's the one is and now red eye doesn't really count with silly murphy because half of that is not in the plane yeah well look studios love a contained thriller because you only have to pay for one set yeah it's a little bit like bottle bottle movies yeah yeah industry contained thrill we call them contained thrillers
Starting point is 00:46:25 because they're contained to one yeah like that was in the phone booth yeah yeah yeah exactly um so i don't know boo i wanted to see mark walberg reverse 9-11 in an alternate universe yes i will not be i will not be seeing this in the theater i will be stealing this from the internet and um yeah because mel gibson mel gibson is uh he's a weird director like when they showed his pre from the director of like apocalypto i'm like that movie was um highly inaccurate uh one of one of one of the wildest endings where i'm like this, this is so historically inaccurate, but you also made these people learn Mayan.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It's just like weird choices. Hacksaw Ridge was terrible. Passion of the Christ, man. Passion of the Christ was terrible. All of his movies are terrible in unique and special ways where it's like like you can see the
Starting point is 00:47:26 effort but it's all weird places yeah exactly you're like that just because you're like the patriot is just like mind-blowingly stupid um i forgot about that yeah he's just he's a very strange director um yeah strange director and a bad man um and then the bet awards uh were on on sunday there was a big like usher had a huge uh tribute thing where everybody so many people were like dedicating little performances to his songs over the years it started off with childish gambino doing an auto-tuned you don't have to call not not my favorite i'd have to say uh but you know honoring the uh atlanta legend himself he gave a speech that got like was really censored a ton i know that he was like swearing but then also it seemed like there were like a lot of the censoring happened when he was talking about it
Starting point is 00:48:17 was like the year of the father i haven't seen the whole like a lot of people posted from inside the amphitheater or the theater the uncensored speech and he was talking about how he'd been through some bullshit in the industry and i'm not sure what he was alluding to but i'm very curious what is going on there i'm sure we'll know more then you had uh will smith performing what did he perform like a new track called you can make it and he's like it's weird the set he's on uh jm our writer pointed out it looks like the cover of like the dianetics book like it's just like a like a flaming volcano like where maybe thetans are i like i like that a white dude is reporting on the vet award sorry
Starting point is 00:48:58 yeah no i had to i mean he knows he knows what the mandate is, the scope of the show. But then, like, in the lyrics, it's just, like, it's all about his, like, comeback. There's lyrics that say, the darker the hell you gotta endure, the brighter the heaven you get to enjoy. The harder the fall, the higher you soar. God opens a window when the devil closes the door. Believe me, they tried to bleed Will Smith. In the rear view, I see adversity was the gift oh well that sounds like a man you ain't gotta do this sounds like a greeting card someone buys you like when something bad happens and you're like hey adversity was the gift wasn't it wasn't it
Starting point is 00:49:37 folks then the other weird part was that in the in memoriam section like when you know you've had people like carl weathers willie mays uh richard roundtree uh like you know one of the isley brothers louis gossett jr like passing away then a card shows up for oj simpson like in the in memoriam and even the audience was like huh i mean i okay i i get it look technically he was acquitted but he definitely that was a moment from black culture where it was like you come on man for all the shit that we've seen people get away with but yes he's a cute he's in it i mean in other award shows like when you've been accused of murder you kind of get left out of the in memoriam like robert blake was at the oscars yeah but robert
Starting point is 00:50:25 blake for sure did that shit and oj only kind of for sure like i'm like he's involved somehow but i can't prove it but whether he did it for real i don't know look it's like oj was such a was such a big deal like even like for you know for me as a kid like i never got to see him play ball but i was a big uh naked gun fan and you know like i i get it i get why he's there but it is you're just like you can't help but go oh yeah yeah you're like i mean like look you're pulling on you're tugging on your shirt collar like oh yeah it's also being jump scared by oj is never fun no no one no no no one wants no no yeah it's uh it's a wild it's it's a wild that's a wild. It's a wild.
Starting point is 00:51:25 That's a wild moment. That's a wild, wild moment. And I get it. I remember being I remember when they were about to read the verdict. I remember like being with like with my grandpa and being like, I hope he's not guilty. I hope he's like, bro, I had such a wild experience with that. I was in fifth grade. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And I happen to have been going to this majority white private school. So at home, it's just black people. Right. And how black people reacted to this in LA. Right, right, right. And at school, it was just white people. And it was like rich white. Like I went to school with like the the hertz rena car kid and jamie
Starting point is 00:52:08 lee curtis's kid and stuff like that and there were little white girls crying when they got the news and this was like and you know then there's like nobody had a cell phone 95 yeah yeah it's like when the news dropped it was just like they might as well have been airing it in the class that's how big it was that's how huge it was and how volatile the situation was yeah and it was just like wild for me at that age to see that level of like that split in the city of like yeah white folks were upset that day it was like it was like 2016 all over again i've never seen that many like white people crying since right right elected but then yeah but then it looked like when people were in the streets in 2020 when trump lost was kind of like what other
Starting point is 00:52:57 parts of la look like but they're like it was not guilty it was a wild formative experience that oj trial because it's like they preempted all the cartoons. I was like 9 or 10 or something like that. It's like you couldn't watch Power Rangers. You couldn't watch Big Bad Beetle Borgs. You couldn't watch reruns of Married with Children. It was just OJ for like, what? How long was that trial?
Starting point is 00:53:18 Like a year? Yeah. At least because the verdict came out in October of 1995. So, yeah. That's just a weird look. I get it from the significance standpoint because obviously he's an outsized figure. But it's like the memoriam part is very just like, come on now. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:53:43 But that didn't have to happen. But anyway, here we are, a strange world we live in, and we only have even stranger things ahead of us. That's not a promo for the new season of Stranger Things. And Stranger Things ahead.
Starting point is 00:54:01 That wire hit the bank account for miles. Season 5. Get get in y'all that wire hit the bank account he's like look let me tell you guys about the new scene let me tell you about some stranger things now what is 11 and the rest of the gang gonna do as they fight uh vecna or whatever the fuck his name is. Shit. Alright, well, that's going to do it for us today. We're going to be back tomorrow with a new episode.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Glad you hung out with us. And the fun does continue. Does continue. And so do the stranger things that we deal with on our day-to-day basis in the news. And also check out Stranger Things, the new season coming soon. All right.
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