The Daily Zeitgeist - Old Cop Gear In Ukraine, The TALENTED Zuckerberg 3.11.22
Episode Date: March 11, 2022In episode 1202, Jack and Miles are joined by musician and scholar, Mariah Parker, to discuss Cops have so much extra gear they’re donating it to Ukraine, Another Hot One From Alec Karakatsanis,... Poutine Has Become the New Freedom Fries, Mark Zuckerberg’s sister is a CRYPTO FUELED NIGHTMARE and more! Cops have so much extra gear they’re donating it to Ukraine Another Hot One From Alec Karakatsanis Police and the Alternatives Poutine Has Become the New Freedom Fries Poutine not Putin: classic Quebec dish off the menu in France and Canada Bank Of America Employee Sings Love Song VISIT: Linqua Franqa Show Dates & Album LISTEN: Bellringer by Linqua FranqaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Paul Garaventa
A.K.A. shout out to
Paul
And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host
Mr. Miles Gray Rather than a song I'm going to do joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Rather than a song, I'm going to do a bit of spoken word poetry.
Some of the listeners who listened on Monday's episode with Greg and Joelle,
we talked about how I had a roommate who didn't know how to sweep with a broom.
And I said, how the fuck could you be fucking up on broom?
And this goes to them.
Dear old roommate, I'm so, so sorry I was not your mother.
If I was your mother, you would have been so loved.
Todd right away, how to sweep floors right.
Never would you lose the fight against dirt unfurled before our eyes,
a pure pile of filth sitting under a woke sky.
If I was your mother, the house would have been clean.
You'd use a broom and not need a Dyson machine.
I can't imagine the stain, the soul-stealing pain that the little boy you were exposed to
so that you learned to hold a broom the wrong way and became dumb enough to buy a photo on eBay.
Okay, shout out to Josiah, whichever one.
Sorry about the pronunciation on eBay. Okay, shout out to Josiah, whichever one. Sorry about the pronunciation on Discord.
Yes, my roommate also bought
the old eBay scam where they bought a
photo of something, not the actual
item that they thought they were bidding on.
Wow. That was better than
the original. It's the
rare AKA that's better than the original.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know,
beauty is based
in the ear of the beholder.
But I enjoyed that more than the poem about how that one actress wanted to be Putin's dad.
A bit of tone deaf poetry.
Miles, we are thrilled, fortunate to be joined in our third seat by a very talented hip hop artist, hip hop artist and host of the podcast Waiting for Reparations, who at the age of 26 ran for and was elected Athens-Clarke County Commissioner in Athens, Georgia, taking the oath of office with their hand on a copy of the autobiography of Malcolm X.
of the autobiography of Malcolm X.
They're a community organizer,
a PhD candidate in linguistics at the University of Georgia,
where they also find time
to be a graduate teaching assistant.
And they have an album coming.
Bell ringer.
Please welcome the brilliant,
the, I have to imagine, incredibly busy,
Mariah Parker, a.k.a. Lingua Franco!
Pew, pew, pew, pew!
What's up, y'all? Oh, so good to be back. Hey, what? So good to be back. franco oh good to see you yeah and since we're all spitting some you know some musical contributions
i like you know came up with a little freestyle real quick about the show okay if i may all right
here we are hanging out with the wise saints we got jack o'brien gang and the miles great
monday till friday put them up in the
ears get a smile hey hey put them in here thank you hey that's a shame that's why you know that's
what i said by all means here take the wheel take the wheel lord take the wheel so last time you
were here you were you were with child i think hello hella with child. Seven months.
And now, on the other side,
you have now welcomed your son?
Yeah, I'm a little baby boy.
Into the world. He's six months now.
Crawling, which is terrifying.
You know, used to be able to put him down and go make some ramen noodles, come back.
Come back and he's like halfway across the room.
He's gone.
Holding a knife.
It happens so fast. Like holding a knife. I'm like, how? How did you?
It happens so fast.
They have that instinct.
They have that instinct to always just find the most dangerous thing in the room and start
fucking with it.
Yep.
Maybe that's how they read energy.
They know when I grab this, they don't get as panicked as when I try for this.
Yeah.
They're like testing it out.
Yeah.
But it's uncanny.
My son will find, if there's a loose cord,
I'll come in and he'll have it wrapped around his neck.
I'm like, I didn't even tell you not to do that.
What the fuck?
How did you know?
Right.
It's incredible.
What a ride.
Yeah.
What a ride.
Unbelievable.
The amount of shit you have on your plate. And I didn't even mention having a ride. Unbelievable. Like the amount of shit you have on your plate.
And I didn't even mention, you know, having a baby.
What are you, what is your secret?
Are you, how's the blood of teenagers that you're stealing and putting in your veins?
Well, that's like number four on my list of like self-care secrets.
Yeah, really?
It's all about a variety of liquids
so it's that number one is water drinking tons of water every day right um coffee and uh peeing
regularly so putting liquids in you know out but no staying hydrated is like the realness
everybody listening to this right now like go take the headphones in but go get some yeah i see miles drinking some
water what are you okay there we go so we're good yeah so that's that's the life right there
like 80 of what we are so you got to keep it refreshed it's open like what's the secret it's
like i don't know the basics like you know the very first thing your mom told you that's my secret
dipshit hydrated dummy oh my god all like your skin all vibrant and you have so much energy just
i'm hydrating wow the best life hack drink water well all right we are thrilled to have you here
we're excited to get to know you a little bit better. First, we are going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. The cops in America have so much extra gear. They're donating it to Ukraine. that they have that gear in the first place, that the NYPD and LAPD budget is way higher than the
defense budget of Ukraine. Yeah, nearly double. Yeah, well, we'll talk. And that's kind of going
to be the theme of our second act is just police fuckery. There's a New York Times piece.
There's a New York Times piece over the weekend claiming like, well, you don't have to either defund the police and invest in alternatives. It's not an either or situation. You just got to do both. And so Alec Karakatsanis, previous guest, pointed out the reason that's bullshit. go through that we're going to talk about the people doing the real work fighting against
vladimir putin and that is the guys who are dumping out white russians making a white russian
and then dumping it out we've talked about the yeah we've talked about the vodka bans but bro
i was at a brewery in alabama a couple weekends ago and like i, I asked her a Moscow mule and like, she wouldn't like say the word Moscow. I was like, y'all, what is like,
literally what's going on right now? They're like, why? It's like, that's because, oh,
I'm sorry. Because Moscow is where the Kremlin is, which is the seat of the Russian government.
And I don't know if you heard about the untold humanitarian transgressions they're committing
against the people of Ukraine. So you won't say the word Moscow.
No, absolutely not.
Hashtag resistance.
Great job.
Right.
And they're like, hold on, why you got the Confederate flag up in the corner over there?
Hold on.
Well, that was about states' rights.
So we're going to talk about that because the war has been brought back to the realm
of French fries.
Jesus.
You may remember one of the stupidest moments in modern American history when they changed.
We stopped calling them French fries and started calling them freedom fries.
Well, now there's a war on poutine because of its similarity.
Shut up. No way.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, we have gotten there.
So we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about Mark Zuckerberg talk about mark zuckerberg's
sister maybe randy we have to randy yeah randy's out here crypto scammer yeah so all of that plenty
more but uh first mariah we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history
so in addition to googling Pacific time versus Eastern time
to make sure I showed up on time to this
because I'm on the East Coast.
I recently Googled Lady Bird Lake, Austin
because I am going to Austin next week
for South by Southwest
and staying near Lady Bird Lake.
And I was like, where is that?
So yeah, that's super exciting
and something I had to verify today.
What's Lady Bird Lake?
It's a lake, perhaps with ladies and birds.
I really have no idea.
I think it's like a reservoir or something.
Austin-based listeners right now are going to be shaking their heads like,
you can't even look close at the map on Google.
It's a river-like reservoir on the Colorado River in Austin, Texas.
This is a new thing Miles and I do where we just read the Wikipedia page.
The Wikipedia first line. this is a new thing miles and i do where we just read the uh wikipedia page for each other but so
that it seems like it's the main like water way that i always assumed was a river but in in
downtown austin like where the bridges go over maybe that's where all the bats are at yeah yeah
yeah that's all i got the bats and the and stuff. Yeah. I'm excited. Oh,
got it.
It's just like this little,
like big lump in the lake that kind of looks less a rivery and looks more
Lakey.
I said bump in the lake.
Look,
this is,
we don't come here for cartography.
Don't sit there like a lump in the lake miles.
Yeah.
Real lump in the lake over here.
Bro.
I wish my son was sitting around like a lump in the lake. Oh, how long are you going to be there? Jump in the lake over here bro i wish my son was sitting around like a lump
in the lake oh how long are you gonna be there in a lake like bro just kidding how long are you
there for for south by oh yeah so i'll be there for about a week i'm playing four shows one
official showcase i'm actually hosting my own day party at the sidebar on saturday
playing live on kutx npr affiliate uh down in austin so yeah if you're gonna be in austin
come through yeah and see what all the fuss is about yeah we'll link off to is there we can get
a link to the page with all the info yeah yeah i feel like we'll have some people down in south
oh yeah no there's there's definitely texas hiking i know that what is something you think
is overrated something i think is overrated okay this is gonna be like a super hot take but like i think that
the at least in georgia so i'm in georgia united states of america but um i think that people like
people's concerns about voter suppression are a little overblown and here's why here's why i think
it's real i think it's real but we saw that in the
atlanta municipal elections for mayor city council last year turnout was actually up more people
voted in that than before after they passed all their you know voter suppression stuff in addition
not even is it like i don't know how much is going to be an impact etc i think that people like
trying to scare folks about it is actually gonna work to the end of voter suppression as well like
if you go out and tell people that aren't like committed voters like it's harder to vote now
they're gonna be like i peace i'm gonna like you know sit back and not go that sounds awful like i
don't want to get arrested for like drinking water in line or whatever and so right i just think we
should focus a lot more on educating folks on how to vote given the new constraints and this will be
you know we got a big election now here. We got Stacey Abrams running.
We got Senator Warnock running.
And so we'll see this year will be like the
testing grounds for like how impactful these
laws actually are. Because so far the evidence
is that, I don't know, maybe people
in defiance are like going out and voting more.
So we'll see. I don't know.
I wonder how much is that that like people
actively, it's so transparent
and the fuckery is just like so
out there that it's just like all right fuck you that could be it that could definitely be it yeah
i'm not trying to downplay these laws but like sure because i know like in texas there's been
like a huge people getting their mail-in ballots rejected but i do get like in broader terms that
rather than just being like it's so fucked up Why would you scare? Don't scare people away from voting.
That's what they're supposed to do.
It's fucked up and we need to do this.
But also, you know, there's also there's a lot of that like federal at the federal level
that could be done.
But one problem at a time.
Let's figure out how your fucking vote doesn't get thrown the fuck out.
Yeah, let's just make sure your vote gets counted.
Let's just stick to that. Ain't no need to fear monger on either side but one side we know what they gonna do and was there like in georgia you know and was there like a huge push to kind of
like lean the other way and just say hey it's still it's still important to turn out this is
how you make sure that you are able to vote yeah i think folks have been doing a good job of educating people on it the stories that are splashy this is also
the media's fault because it's like catchier to to you know write headlines that sound terrifying
about the situation that then get picked up and circulated more so than what the educational
efforts have been how can you go out and and vote make sure your vote is counted so but yeah i mean
we're on our game with like voter education.
Like, don't get me wrong.
It's just, we need to really try to like hype that up so folks don't feel discouraged.
I think the reason too, why some people get like, talk less about what the efforts are
of like activists on the ground is because on some level, there's like this idea.
It's like, don't have activists keep bailing this party out that's barely doing shit for them and so that's
also part of the conversation too where you're like man why the fuck i know we're tired yeah
right exactly but at the same but shit there's still people out there who fundamentally are
trying to make sure that people have the ability to vote and yeah i guess there's also that tension
too where it's like we also look at leadership in the in dc and we're like where the fuck are y'all at yeah like where someone asked me today like oh have you ever
thought about running for higher office and i considered it but like those people like federal
even state level like they don't get to be out with the people really like they don't even see
the people i don't even know if they want to see the people i like being a local elected official
because i because i ran into this dude on my walk that like we had 20 minute conversation about local politics you don't you don't really get that from your congressman so
exactly they ain't out here in these streets yeah they're just on endless phone calls with donors
i feel like yep what is something you think is underrated you know like like dancing around your
house like recently okay so i'm real slow i know but i just
got on tiktok and it's giving me an excuse to like dance around in my house when the baby's asleep
and i was like oh man not only do i have like excellent dance moves that i forgot about
yeah i like i broke a sweat and i'm breathing heavily like it's like a like a mini little workout. So if it's like raining or whatever,
you want to go to the gym and get spit on by somebody got COVID.
Like, just, you know, just bust out.
A couple moves.
Put it on the reel.
Are you hitting challenges?
Or are you just...
Oh, no, no, no.
I just danced to random shit.
Okay, I was just like, when he said TikTok,
I'm like, oh, you're there now?
Oh, no, not like that.
Not to disparage that.
That's cool and fine.
Because now I'm on TikTok.
Who am I to judge?
But no, I just like put on my favorite jam, maybe some Tang of the Bangers or whatever.
And like, okay, I'll just flex a little bit.
Yeah.
What's, I mean, I, man, there's this one, there's like one Flying Lotus song that I
remember I started vacuuming to.
And then I turned into some like weird hood Fred Astaire thing thing with like camping with a vacuum and then like lotus will do that to you
yeah i mean and there's just like certain things i'm like starting to do the robot and shit i don't
even i can't even really do the fucking robot but like this music is informing my body how to move
those are those are very underrated uh moments of inspiration for sure and then dancing when the
kid gets when the kids get a little
older, that's also fun to dance with them.
Oh, he's going to be sick with it.
He's going to just wreck.
I feel like that's one of the life extenders
or the things that keep
your brain young type things that you
hear about that I actually believe
in is dancing,
they say, because it promotes
the elasticity
and like thinking in the moment.
Oh, yeah.
Just actually you can't dance if you're not in the actual moment.
But I feel like people tend to just immediately knee jerk, say like yoga,
meditation, but like dancing puts you in the moment, too.
Take a little five-minute break, three-minute break.
Yeah.
Go dance. What's, Jack, what's something that gets you, puts some honey in your hips? Dancing puts you in the moment, too. Take a little five-minute break. Three-minute break. Yeah. Get down.
What's, Jack, what's something that gets your,
puts some honey in your hips?
Gets your big toe shooting up in your boot.
It's really situational.
You know, it can be anything.
That's a cop-out.
Come on now.
Give us the deets.
No, I mean, it's...
He doesn't want us to know his kryptonite.
Like, you're going to open the show with, like,
his secret, like, weakness, and then. You're going to open the show with his secret weakness,
and then he's just going to be jiggling around instead of recording the show.
I do a lot of car dancing, so it's really whatever I'm listening to a lot in the car.
My kids love dancing to the Beatles, which is not really danceable music for me.
Oh, is that what you're saying to your kids?
I'm like, this ain't dancing music.
And I don't let them.
I don't let them.
Ob-la-dee, ob-la-da.
They're going to grow up like, hey, why don't you ever come to prom?
It's like, well, my dad yelled at me for dancing to the Beatles.
We basically have two playlists.
One is music I like that I just pick up independently wherever,
around the world, from TV shows.
And then one is like, oh, I bet they would like this song that pops into my head.
So that's all we listen to basically at all times.
But yeah, with them, I'm taking the approach of, I think it'll make them better dancers
if I take the parenting approach of the preacher from Footloose.
And I just say that they're not allowed to dance anywhere that it breeds sin.
And then I catch them dancing and throwing dance parties in the middle of the night.
But you have copies of break-in all over the house that they can watch.
Exactly.
Turbo's got moves.
Like, what did I say about invoking Turbo's name in this house?
We do not speak of Boogaloo shrimp here.
Yeah.
How about you, Miles? what's your visit oh my god
fucking anything that honestly depends on like be honestly fucking anything anything except for like
classical i mean something obviously with like a proper like backbeat to it but the last thing
that i think oh it was probably it's there's just this one uh oh you know what it was oh, it was probably,
there's just this one, oh, you know what it was?
I think it was MC Squared by J Dilla and Common.
I was just listening to that song the other day because there's just, the drums are so dope.
Your neck will snap in two,
but then I just start getting like,
I can't control myself.
Oh God.
I got one from your music recommendations, Nouveau Western.
I think that was you.
Oh, yeah, by MC Solar.
That's heavy rotation with both my playlist and my kids' playlist.
Yeah, we were getting down to that.
That's got to get to Serge Gainsbourg.
Yeah.
Mariah, what do you dance to?
What gets you going?
So, yeah, Tank of the Bangers. I'll put on some some gold link he has a new album out in december i'll remember
it's great it was so good um yeah i like to i love putting on weird stuff to dance to to like
just stretch the boundaries of what you can do hip-hop dance moves too so the other night i was
dancing to um big rock candy mountain by harry mcclinton from the old brother where are
right so i was like let me see if i can get down to this let's put it on to see if i could like
pop and lock to this you know little hobo song so it's fun to mix it up that song makes so much
sense to me when i'm incredibly hungry i'm just like yeah it's like a love song to candy yeah
just like rock candy yeah what a time like a love song to candy. Yeah. Just like rock candy.
Yeah.
What a time.
What a time.
The depression must have been.
It's just dancing to Big Rock Candy Mountain.
Big Rock Candy Mountain.
That song, that's a funny, you know what's weird though is I've only seen Oh Brother
like maybe once, but I will not forget that song.
You can never forget that song.
Because I was like, damn. rock yeah that movie was just them streaming out a really good
soundtrack they're just like we'll put some images with this but yeah what uh as a as a musician do
you have a strategy for is it's a little early right for your baby, but do you have a strategy for, like, what you're gonna
expose him to, and order, and all that stuff? I was actually wondering to ask y'all about that,
because, like, we listen to a lot of hip-hop around the house, and we've been, like, wondering
to ourselves at what time we need to, like, find kid-friendly hip-hop when he's gonna start picking
up on words, you know, because he, like, we don't put on something like RTJ or whatever,
but, like, at some point, he might be like, fuck know just learning the lingo so i don't know i don't really know what the strategy is
gonna be when we get there because i'm not i'm not wanting to like censor much but i don't want
him going to school and be like i'll piss on your shoes in public like quoting killer mike
like they do in the future you're like whoa oh no whoa. Oh, no.
Yeah, it's tricky.
Because they only put out the clean versions of the big hits.
Yeah.
Usually.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, I think the thing my dad did would be like, well, if I want to be able to dance to stuff and it's not some like soft ass kid shit.
You've played a lot of like Afro beat, like Felicuti and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
So like, i don't
like i'm not understanding the lyrics but the music's like super high energy and like you know
those are like fucking eight minute songs so it's like that's a good point burn this kid out good
wreck yeah also i just thought about okay instrumentals to put the instrumental on
and i can like if it's like a song that like is my song like like you know like i know the words
a little bit i can throw things in take things out you know so that might be the move it's like a song that like is my song, like, you know, like I know the words a little bit.
I can throw things in, take things out, you know.
So that might be the move.
It's like, yo, it's like you should hear my mom.
They did the verse on it.
It's like it's called Control.
Some people think Kendrick Lamar did it.
No, I remember growing up, the beat would be on.
My mom would just spit that shit.
Yo, that's so funny because when I was growing up, you know know that song peaches by the presidents of the united states of america like yo i thought that my older brothers
had made that song up and until i got older and saw the music video on mtv and i was furious i was
like aaron sean they like they stole your song so like i can totally imagine scenario he grows up
and it's like he hears he like sees kendrick lamar in the super bowl and it's like, he hears, he like sees Kendrick Lamar in the Superbowl and it's like, wait, is that not,
is that not,
is that not your song?
Wait,
my mom always used to say,
we gonna be all right.
That's,
that's not her.
It was like a family saying,
like,
you know,
oral tradition.
Man,
I would actually,
that would be,
I think that's what I would do to my kid.
I would just play instrumentals and I would split everything from the first Clips album
Lord Willin
and they would think,
I think my dad is Pusha T and Malice.
It's amazing.
Such a multifaceted.
Rappers is talking to me as if.
Making eye contact with them the whole time.
We in the same boat. I tell them quick,
no, I move coke.
They're like, what?
That's a great hack.
That's a great hack.
All right, let's take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah
Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together,
we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah
Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve
into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine.
Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
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And the Pentagon has been giving their hand-me-downs
to local law enforcement for three decades.
You may have noticed it.
At least outwardly at least outward local streets
officially right there's weapons vehicles gear like all of a sudden the police look like they're
in a first-person shooter set in like a war zone basically that's what they think it is too they're
like yeah it's like it's like the pow pow games i play as a kid, only they really die. It's like, watch out, these poor people want to cry.
And it expands to, like you were saying, Miles, it expands to how they describe our cities as hostile war zones.
Right.
No, exactly.
I mean, you know, dress for the job you want, I guess.
And that's how the police dress.
Like, they're an occupying force in a hostile war zone and
you know like along with getting free stuff from the pentagon we're like all right we develop better
killing things here take the old ones pd the budgets of the police departments are also
eye-watering we talk about this a lot but just again just for some perspective right
the nypd and lapd they both spend around 11 billion dollars not not collectively each
they're spending 11 billion dollars a year okay to quote unquote keep us safe and fight crime and
that shit honestly if you gave away 11 billion dollars in cash to people in these cities who actually needed it, that would do a hell of a lot more for fucking crime rates than being like, yeah, we need to invest in like night vision goggles, more helicopter fuel and all this other nonsense.
But again, please tell us why spending more money is going to give us the outcome of law and crime.
But we're giving more money and the crime rates go up.
It's almost like one doesn't have to do it the other.
So anyway,
now there are like numerous police departments around the country that are so
overstocked with like old tactical gear,
ballistic vests,
helmets,
et cetera.
They're kind of like,
Hey,
why don't we just send this to Ukraine?
Because the civilians might need that for,
you know,
defending their own like urban environments for, you know, defending their own like urban
environments against, you know, Russia. And a lot of departments have said that it's come like
people have asked like local, like Ukrainian charities or like people within the department
who have Ukrainian family have been like, Hey, they could really use this stuff. But it's just
a surreal situation. Like when you read headlines like this because again when you consider that
those aforementioned budgets and you realize that the defense budget for the entire nation of ukraine
is not even six billion dollars bananas bananas that's 41 million people who live on the border
of russia who have openly been like we are about to fuck you up for the past at least decade, many more.
And their defense budget is $6 billion.
The city of Los Angeles has a population of 4 million people.
And they need $11 billion to police them.
Insane. Insanity.
All right, I got another hot take on this.
Since we're talking about the military and the police together,
I got a way for the cops to win and also for us to pour tons of money into the community to actually get at the roots of crime we gotta defund the pentagon
fund the pentagon because look they had a budget of like 750 million dollars this year the congress
actually gave them more money than they asked for despite the fact that they lost like they were found to have
lost like 80 million dollars like lost lost track of 80 million dollars in in construction contracts
gave seven million dollars to a one-person company for cloud computing software so like
all of this stuff and 72 billion dollars for this thing called the overseas contingency operations
fund which allows them to just go do military operations without any sort of congressional approval.
So if we take all that money, just take like 10% of Pentagon budget, we could like end homelessness, community gardens on every corner, free education, etc.
And then we don't even have to come after the cops.
They can do, you know, we can be chilling.
They would have less to do because there would be less crime
because we actually invest in things people need.
You see, like, the cops are saying, like,
we need to talk about the military-industrial complex.
See, that's that weird alliance that we've been waiting for.
Like, strange bedfellows suddenly, they're like,
yeah, I mean, honestly, you guys are talking about our budgets.
I mean, look at the fucking Pentagon.
There we go.
That's some whataboutism I can get behind.
Yeah.
You know, and then maybe like if there was, you know, if the Pentagon had less like insane military technology, they wouldn't have so many hand-me-downs to then militarize our local communities with.
So everybody wins.
Everybody wins.
So, yeah, I'm just saying.
No, no.
I think this is Alex Villanueva of the L.A. Sheriff's Department.
If you're listening, this might be a good strategy.
Let's put down our rancor and our, you know, spite towards each other and unite in the cause of.
Exactly.
He's like, I mean, I would.
He's like the L.A. Sheriff's Department would never need thermal barrack munitions.
OK, those are also banned by the Geneva convention. Okay. That's ridiculous. Although who knows, maybe one day it might get,
it might get there, but right now we don't need them. So the question of what to do about
funding the police, just the New York times posited in a piece over the weekend that
over the last weekend that you can just, it's a false dichotomy. It's a false choice.
You can do both.
You can just give the,
you can give the police tons more money
and you can fund alternatives to the police.
So this dude who we had on before,
Alec Karakatsanis,
who really focuses on like prison abolition.
He's so, he's amazing.
So he's basically saying like,
actually, it doesn't work like it so
the policy idea that the new york house is defending was taken from a sentence in biden's
state of the union that got like i guess some bipartisan approval standing right and all that
but the problem being that the police and the prison industrial complex are you know much more
well funded than any other social
service, more well-armed and authorized to use violence than anybody or anything is allowed to
be in America, more represented by the media. But most importantly, they are not fucking interested
in solving the problem. They are interested in perpetuating the problem and perpetuating
a system where they make people scared. People are afraid. People feel
like they need these extremely well-funded police departments like that's been shown over and over
and over. Yeah. I mean, here's my middle ground solution. What I've been working on in my local
government, because like, you know, I was like leading the charge 2020, like let's cut the police
budget, et cetera. But at this point I'm like, all right,
can we just not increase it?
Like crime is at historic lows.
We all know that.
Let's just not like,
like let's just hold it at what it is
instead of giving them more money year after year.
And that's like several million dollars over 10 years
to put into other stuff.
Like, is that not like a suitable compromise for everyone?
Like, right.
Right. Yeah. And I feel like as those things succeed yeah you could but but it seems like biden he said like in his state of
the union i believe like we don't need to defund the police we need to like fund it even more like
just invest in police and so alec kind of pulled all this research on this article.
He always got the receipts.
Oh, my God.
Always got the receipts.
So he was like, this article omits research showing modern policing does not reduce crime.
And the few pro-police studies he cherry-picked, the author from the New York Times, cherry-picks are flawed.
They omit crimes committed by cops when counting crimes.
You'd think that would be an important detail if you're trying to study the effectiveness.
Still crime.
Yeah.
But even the like very flawed pro cop research that the article cites, like eventually shows
later in the article, the policing has very limited short term effects on small areas
and the positive effects evaporate over time.
So it's like, and the U.S. is in the middle of, like, funding, like, going just real heavy
in this direction.
Like, if policing could solve crime and make, if it made communities safer safer the u.s would have the safest
societies in the history of the world yeah period so i mean what's going on and what i found
interestingly in my like time in public service particularly lately as i've gotten i would say
more savvy in like making these arguments to people like it really uncovers the degree to
which a lot of elected officials just have no understanding, no idea, no basis for why we should do what we do. Like, I went all in on the drug war in December
and pulled all these stats about the effectiveness of decriminalizing drugs in Portugal and, like,
the American Public Health Association endorsing, like, a resolution to, like, to, you know, defund
and refund effectively. And, like, I was like, yo, if I'm wrong, somebody tell me.
And literally no one could, you know,
bring to the table any evidence to refute what I was saying.
And it was just like, oh, okay.
Just bringing to light that like these folks really don't,
they don't do the math.
They don't do the research.
They don't do the homework.
And yeah, no imagination for it either.
No imagination for it either.
And so like-
You have to say things like,
look at this place that decriminalized drugs yeah substance use treatment went up
like other associated crimes with drugs went down like so i mean i think bringing these facts
forward i mean it helps advance the conversation because while they couldn't refute it because
they couldn't refute it they're like i i'm not gonna vote no on like renewing our federal
drug task force funding today but like i i could get behind funding more substance abuse treatment
next year so like it helps these small narrative shifts that you know plant the seeds for some real
change but yeah it's wild that folks like just don't even don't even look at the stuff like what
alec has pulled here right right sometimes yeah and i mean we've
we've been talking a lot about real estate and the importance of uh you know the real estate
industry and a lot of just bad shit that happens in america but you know he points out that the
police kind of are the muscle behind like enforcing inequality by you know withdraw moving people away from
places that have vowed you know value to real estate people you know i think this is a direct
quote controlling the poor to benefit real estate developers and the surveillance and brutal
infiltration of social movements are too consistent and defining features of the last 125 years of policing
and those yeah you that is 100 incompatible with the alternatives that people are talking about
which is all about you know reducing inequality and finding ways to invest in people and those
are yeah yeah i've been on that stuff about, like, the housing gangs, like, hella lately.
Because they really, like, housing developers really are, they are gangs, exactly.
They exploit a dependency, just like drug dealers exploit someone who's addicted to math or something like that.
If you don't play by their rules, they use violence to enforce them.
So if you get evicted or if you're homeless, they use the state rather than their own violence to crack down on people that won't play the game and similar as drug dealing if you're like wealthy
you can get your fix and not get any punishment but if you're poor and you're like camping out or
you can't you know afford rent this month like then that's when the cops come for you so it's
just like the drug war they are absolutely like corporate housing developers are absolutely just cartels you know exploiting a dependency period and and in la we have rick
caruso running for mayor of la rick caruso is one of the biggest developers in the city developer
yeah like oh boy like oh god the joke always being like you know also sits on like these like
benevolent police you know society type
boards and stuff like that because he pays a lot of money to keep unhoused people the fuck out of
the grove yeah and shit like that and other shopping centers that his company runs because
that's how it all works and like yeah you're not even seeing like it's so it's so like overt to the
point it's like well now i'm the fucking mayor y'all like and think
of how many people you look at most people in a lot of cities or most cities how much you need
the backing of real estate developers to even ascend city politics because they damn sure don't
want people who are going to start being like we need to rethink zoning laws and like what kind of
buildings we're making because this shit doesn't serve anybody except for a very small group and yeah you know but more and more you know you want people to really begin to see the links
between private property uh and the violence that is you know acted out against other people
in pursuit of that we the way that i like first started paying more attention to the role that
real estate has in this is there was that la magazine article that was like is la really as scary as it seems and it had like a shrieking
white woman on the cover like looking through blinds out out her window like and so it seemed
like oh this is gonna be them being like no you guys are fucking out of your minds. But no, it was all just like,
on the one hand, the statistics show that things are fine
and not even close to being unprecedented
for even recent history of LA.
On the other hand, here are a bunch of anecdotes
from scared rich people who are going to say wild shit.
And I noticed that one of the key sources,
so that person, that author who wrote that piece for LA Magazine, his background was real estate
reporting. And his, one of his key sources was Rick Caruso. And he like name dropped that Rick
Caruso was thinking about a mayoral bid in that article. And now Rick Rousseau is running for mayor.
And, you know, I'm sure that dude would get a really nice cushy position.
And that's another thing that Alec Carr at Sonnys, I don't know if I'm saying his name right.
But he talks about a lot as like the sources people cite in these articles to say that what they're saying is backed up by experts.
It's like, oh, like a criminologist that was formerly in the cia right it's like oh experts as like former
police officers former prosecutors when if you talk to most criminologists if you talk to
historians talk to sociologists like the the pattern is clear of the way that this you know
policing does drive inequality but oh let's you know, the billionaire real estate developer on, you know, what the
future of Los Angeles should look like.
So, right.
It's like, hey, and they helped me out on a couple of deals.
So I kind of need to I got I kind of got there back now because I, you know, pretty
quickly changed my career from talking about real estate to city crime.
Switch to that beat.
And then you look at Rick Carusouso's you know campaign website and the
top three issues are and two of the three sort of basically relate to how police brutalize the poor
first one is end street homelessness read rick's detailed plan to house the homeless how about
house the unhoused anyway uh and get people the care they need to get back on
their feet. I doubt that. Then the next one's public safety, which goes hand in hand with your
the article you're referencing, which is trying to put the seeds in people's heads, which is like,
everything's so fucked up. We need law and order. We need law and order. We need public safety. We
need more people who are going to reinforce the idea that police and law enforcement and, you know, state. And then the New York Times piece over the weekend, Alec pointed out that there's a quote that says, both sides work best together, experts said. And then he says this sentence belongs in the Journalism Hall of Fame because it's just a vague allusion to like some experts. But it's actually that he doesn't have anything backing
it up other than like this is his personal conclusion from having right to like the
president of the police union or whatever experts said yeah yeah great job yeah well done congrats
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And yeah, it seems like poutine has become the new freedom fries. This report comes from the front lines from our writer J.M. McNabb up in Canada. And, you know, first of all, he gave us a little bit of an update on the bars renaming, you know, rejecting Russian vodka and white Russians and Moscow mules have been now renamed.
A conservative talk show host, Jesse Kelly, claimed the other day that he made himself a white Russian, then dumped it in the sink.
Congrats, bro.
That's sick.
Sick burn.
I want that to be true.
I just want to picture him making himself a drink and then dumping it in the sink and being like, fuck yeah.
Yeah, right.
And then putting his Soviet flag behind him.
He's like, that's praxis right there.
He's like, I live this shit.
I live and breathe.
Resistance.
Yeah, okay, bro.
Good job.
An Austin, Texas eatery called russian house is renaming
itself simply house which feels that's that's not good y'all that's not a good that was poorly
thought out that sounds like you want to go to house tonight which house you you know the one
hey let's take it to the house yeah all right yeah take you to the house
themed around the hugh laurie medical drama yeah the house restaurant and all you hear is massive
attack playing i just give you a lab coat when you walk in scalpels right like this idea this
like superficial shit like it has the words in it fuck that because it has the words in it. Fuck that. Because it has the words in it. It's like the other version of just like big black square energy on Instagram in the summer of 2020.
Big, big black square energy.
That's the same as like, man, I don't really want to learn too much or really parse through it.
So I really understand the nuance here.
It looks like a lot of people are mad at this thing.
I'm going to hop in and do the absolute minimum.
Yeah, I'd love to take some performative action that distracts from the actual issues here.
So that takes up a headline in my local paper
and not actually what's happening on the ground in Ukraine.
So I was like, yeah, I did my allyship today.
I'm going to go.
Local man pours liquid into sink in solidarity.
So brave.
So in the grand tradition of Freedom fries which is there do we think that there's a
part of the american populace that like remembers that fondly as like a time that we all came
together and said we won't be pushed around by france by renaming french fries probably
halliburton i would imagine lockheed martin you know those defense contractors that were like yeah that's right what's up contracts i'm buying it yet
um stoked about freedom fries but i don't know if anybody else remembers that fondly i mean i
it was just like a thing that everybody laughed at because they're like this country won't let
us unilaterally decide to fucking start a war in the Middle East. Like that was the reason,
right.
That they're like,
they're all trying to like pump the brakes on this shit.
Fuck out of here.
And I don't know,
but I wasn't like the origin that they changed the name,
like in the cafeteria,
like on the Capitol or something or at the white house.
And that's how like it first started.
It started.
So back then it was uh february 2003 in
a north carolina restaurant was widely publicized a month later when then republican chairman of
the committee of house administration bob nay renamed the menu item in three congressional
cafeterias right and people were like oh okay again that's i mean we should have people should
have known this was coming because they're like oh we don't like them anything that's associated
with it we're done with it it's unconceivable it's like just google how to help like literally
like there's funds there's people getting all sorts of hygiene supplies over there and like
food aid contribute but like literally
it's just like i am i'm i don't i forgot how to google guess i'm gonna pour this liquid down the
sink yeah right yeah and you can meme it you can you know you can do do it on instagram or tiktok
you know they're like i told my children to stop playing tetris because that is also russian we do
not fuck around here.
We will also not use helicopters because I mean, someone definitely did that.
Right.
Like some.
Yeah.
Oh, there has to be someone completely stupid.
Yeah.
To do that.
So the problem.
Well, this is not the problem.
But the problem, as these people see it, is that Putin, like Vladimir Putin's's last name translates into french as putin and people
like that it does like that's just how it translates some people say it's because
the other more obvious like translation is a french swear word and so they like made it putin
other people are like no that's just how this really translates into french but yeah either way a
diner in quebec has retired the word poutine and that diner claims to be the birthplace of poutine
now jm comes through and says but they didn't really invent it they just added the gravy
i will i will take issue with use the word just there. Yeah, excuse me? Because the gravy for me is the most important part of the poutine.
Otherwise, it's just cheese fries.
I'm offended by the concept of just cheese curds on fries.
Yeah, that's what it originally was.
Somebody was at a Quebec dairy farming town in 1957
and asked to throw the cheese curds and French fries in a bag together
and called it poutine, which is a slang for a mess but i don't i don't think they were fully what what we what i know and love as poutine
until they dropped that gravy on there i just don't what are they solving by it's because it's
not this has literally nothing to do with v Putin. It's a media grab.
It's like seizing this opportunity to get a headline.
I really think that.
And it's folks that like,
you know,
we think about,
we think about activism in terms of consumer choices.
So often like performative,
like,
you know,
Oh,
I'm going to like,
I don't know,
change the name of my restaurant.
Thinking about it in terms of commerce,
rather than just like,
give your material resources over to people who need it non-transactionally without expecting
any benefit like no one's gonna like you nobody has to know just do it but it's like how can i do
this in a way that's gonna garner me attention right right yeah it does fuck all and and again
it's it's such a clear like clearly missing the point because you're just saying like it rhymes.
That's bad.
But I will also call it my master bedroom because I don't know about any sort of linguistic implications or historical references that might make.
I will still call it a master bedroom.
Like that's where it's that's where you're like, this is so inconsistent.
But again, I think speaks to your point, Mariah, that this isn't about anything to do with being in solidarity with anything except your fucking ego.
Yeah.
And you're talking about thinking like, oh, maybe some more, some similarly minded people that like don't understand actually how to affect any kind of social change.
Or like, I came in.
Yeah, we wanted to put our money where our mouth is with support for Ukraine by coming to buy your dumb fries with no gravy, apparently.
Anyway.
Right, right, right.
Well, the people who just changed the name were the first to put gravy on it.
So I am saying this is a significant step in the world of poutine because they are, in my opinion, the effective inventors of poutine.
It's a damn shame how far they have fallen since the gravy.
You know, right. the effective inventors of poutine it's a damn shame how far they have fallen since the gravy you know right they're like i will also not use the periodic table of elements because i heard
that was also invented by a russian they're like you can play this game real quick and not be using
shit right don't do anything but like so be you know if you're really about it then be like i
don't use fucking solar cell like energy band
like all kinds of weird shit i threw my phone in a lake just yeah but it also seems very american
like i referenced this the last time it's like world war ii it's like all right man if you're
japanese right you're fine there's no historical memory there's no like awareness of like we've
completely been here before and realized later
how fucked up it was and like learned nothing yeah learned nothing and some of these places
these institutions are responding to the death threats and shit that's like being sent because
they serve these things or at least that's what they're claiming so gonna need to see some
screenshots sir i mean i guess i'm sure people might be mad but guess what they're claiming. So going to need to see some screenshots, sir. I mean, I guess I'm sure people might be mad, but guess what?
They they probably know less than you.
If that is the if that's bringing them to that point.
Yeah, damn.
I mean, like there are so many other reasons to be mad at what's going on rather than like this place.
This rhymes with the guy's name.
with the guy's name.
By the way, you know who created and instituted the
and continues to repeat the
phrase master bedroom is real
estate agents. Right. Exactly.
Real estate industry. Exactly. Open
your third eye. Just saying.
Anyways, don't give in to
the bullshit harassment if that's what's
happening and don't jump on the fucking
let's change anything
russian too yeah and guess what if you're friends like that you can be the really smart ass and go
hold on man turn that label around see where that's made not in russia oh it almost sounds
like they just they own the name yeah it has nothing to do with russia anymore okay that's
fine oh i'm sorry was that bottled there and even then are you sure that affects the the government because that i i don't know i don't know i'm just saying i'm just saying check
check we're sending a message miles yeah it's putin's gonna fucking hear us loud and clear
we break stuff that we don't like
the american way right did i don't understand i mean i don't know how these people's political
persuasion is but like i thought only dumb people like burned the nikes they bought
but you could see democrat matter whatever you know some blue no matter who type people also
doing this shit like i can't believe what's going on like i had i uh i stopped watching
the netflix series russian doll because that was just a bridge too far.
I'm like, oh, shit. Sad state of affairs.
Here we are.
Right.
And I saw one of those Russian Dolls.
You can't trust them.
You know, it looks like one,
and then there's like 10 more.
And then they're like, this can't hop out.
I'm like, damn.
This has to be the last one.
This has to be the last one.
It had to be.
Oh, my God.
And another one. And another one. It's god! And another one.
And another one.
DJ Khaled doll.
DJ Khaled then comes out and he's like,
I got a major key alert!
Renaming the Russian
doll to the Khaled doll.
You know who would make a good Russian doll?
DJ Khaled.
He's shaped like a Russian doll.
13 miniatures in there. He is shaped exactly like a Russian doll. He's had 12, 13 miniatures in there.
He is shaped exactly.
He is shaped exactly like a Russian doll.
The most any human being has ever been shaped like a Russian doll.
That's wild.
Another one.
Interesting.
There are all sorts of wild connections coming together on this episode.
Speaking of wild connections.
Yes.
Kind of.
Randy Zuckerberg, Mark's big sister,
former director of market
development at facebook and now a huge crypto evangelist you love to see it love that pipeline
do i mean the wild thing the wild thing is you never heard of randy zuckerberg you never wow
that's that's strange because she has a
penchant for releasing really fun videos and full-on parody songs that are exclusively about
crypto okay yes and her advice her and her advice posts like she even does things like let me just
kind of show you like how easy it is to get into crypto are on some like wildly uncool like nft your way to
yaz queen girl boston that's like sort of the energy of like these quote-unquote investing
videos and that's because ever since she left facebook right she says for like the lack of
women working there which you know i think that's a fair point she said but she hopped on the crypto
train to scamville and she is now an advisor slash spokesperson for okay coin which
is a crypto exchange that you know very woke because they they've promised one million dollars
to bring more women into crypto now i don't even know what that means more women into crypto i don't
even know what that i mean that could just be a scam to targets women and then like i don't know
what happened to chery but she jumped into crypto.
We're bringing you
to crypto, lady.
Be quiet.
Like literally bringing
them somewhere?
Yeah, we're trying to
get more people to crypto.
It's an alternative
to pretty good
and good crypto
is just okay crypto.
Yeah.
Like, yeah,
that's fine.
That's a choice.
And also like,
I like to use promised
because it's like,
you don't know
what that means. No checks have been cut. That's like the best like ne use promised because it's like, you don't know what that means.
No checks have been cut.
That's like the best like nebulous language you can use for charitable actions.
Like we're committing when we're promising $1 million and also $1 million.
I feel like for how balling the crypto space seems like you could probably dig into your pockets a little bit more.
But that's a whole other thing.
So I guess that's where Randy comes in because we're trying to they're trying to bring in more women to crypto.
So I want you to check out this.
First of all, she's got this sick ass Adele cover that she does to, again, help people understand crypto.
I can't.
I can't do this.
I'm sorry.
I don't think I can.
I don't think my central nervous system can take the chills of douche that will.
I'm scared I'm going to like it.
Oh, man, am I going to like this?
Hey, well, don't worry.
She kind of got pipes, though.
So check this out.
Oh, no.
I don't like this, aren't I?
Uh-huh.
Hello.
Oh, no.
She looks just like me.
It's me.
Would you like to learn about exchanging cryptocurrency?
We'll go over everything.
Is that a stroke?
Yo, this is not cheap.
Different blockchains and want to do some trading.
Hello.
Can you hear me?
Okay, so.
So, oh, Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
I don't feel good.
Yeah.
Okay, but that didn't inspire you at all?
You know?
Okay, how about, I mean, also, she could kind of sing.
And it turns out, I didn't know this.
She did a stint on the musical rock of ages in
2014 on fucking broadway in what kind of reeks like a pay-to-play oh like sort of scheme because
fucking there's the playbill.com i'm just gonna i just want to read the you know playbill which
is like the you know the the official like program you'll get when you go out to see shows on
broadway or at least that's my conception of that logo. They posted this article on their website when Randy Zuckerberg joined and said,
quote, this is the headline, Randy Zuckerberg of Facebook fame will make Broadway debut in
Rock of Ages. Like what? I like that you read that in Mark Zuckerberg's voice.
That was an exact replica of how Mark Zuckerberg would read that.
And then, you know, goes on like it's like this really lengthy article that has like all these quotes from
randy zuckerberg talking about like their love of theater it's like okay fine whatever but now
she's come even you know a longer way and is doing her latest uh video that came out i think which
got most people talking on the internet, was this sick ass fucking
cover of Twisted Sister.
Okay? We're not
gonna take it. Okay?
Check this out, y'all. Hold on to your
butts. You're too excited
about the pipes.
Oh my gosh. I'm so hyped.
Oh, Christ.
Woo!
Yes!
We're all gonna make it.
Yeah, we're all gonna make it.
All right.
We're all gonna make it, everyone.
We're all gonna make it.
Wow, look at all these people agreeing.
It's just the start, so GM,
copy your crypto DM,
D-Y-O-R, and pick a coin.
B-T-D, buy the different.
Okay.
Okay.
Is this like commercials when they try to make it like intentionally cringe so that you keep thinking about it? Like, wow, that commercial was so, so, so bad.
I mean.
Maybe I should buy Raisin Bran. I don't know.
I know. This is one of those things where somebody has so much money that they don't know how dumb they are.
how dumb they are. It really inspires you to think about what sorts of
insane media would exist if
everyone just had millions to
just create whatever dumb shit they wanted.
I mean, I bet some very beautiful art
never gets created because bitches just be
broke. And then meanwhile, Randy
Zuckerwitz is over here just
making these cringe 80
throwbacks.
Imagine the world we could live in.
We'll get air by a million dollars to just make whatever
dumb this fuck music videos they won if only everyone's little brother started facebook
and just got me in the business and i was a blue chip facebook person and cashed the fuck out
and can now be like i do whatever the fuck i want literally including trying to mainstream and
normalize getting working people into crypto as if that's
again, I think that's what is really insidious about this is the message of that song, right,
is we're all going to make it impossible. Yeah. Yeah. Sums up the central myth around crypto.
It is seemingly a way for everyone to join in on the monies in an easy way. But the truth is
not everyone is going to make it. No. no darling yeah i mean she might as well be
doing a ad for like caesar's casino like oh we're all gonna make it you know put down all your money
on on black blackjack tables see what happens that's what it is for someone like randy zuckerberg
who has millions in like liquidity to just throw around and make these huge investments on crypto
and get a return on it of course you're gonna to be out here being like hallelujah we're all going to make it
but it's only people like you who are going to be making this fucking money and i think that all
these campaigns are to just say we need more people here we need more people in here we need
more people in here right to inflate the value of the currencies that they own millions in
and then make them richer you're in all the right conversations to know about this shit
at the right time to make money off of it but you are going to make a bunch of other people poorer
than you i do just have to say so it's a it's an interesting like the the two videos that she made
are the have you guys ever worked somewhere that makes a video like where the bosses like make a
video to like kind of send a message or
like communicate a goal or have you ever seen those like the bank of america one i would have
to help make those videos right like oh so this seems like it's the best like execution of that
but unfortunately like those don't get better as the quality goes up.
It actually gets worse because like there you realize it like puts it in higher contrast that the thing missing is not production value.
It's a soul.
It's like a any like human humanity at the core of it because she's like, you know, very comfortable and confident on camera and you know knows what she's
trying to say and is singing the right notes but holy shit it is like again i think this needs to
go into a museum that's just you know with the like in the bad side of the museum like not the
good side where we're gonna put the cheesecake menu. Like this goes in the, wow.
Like, and this is why it didn't work.
I mean, Carpe your crypto DM.
Okay.
I'm starting to wonder if the cringe factor is intentional in the sense that also it looks, the second video looks so low budget.
It's like, hey, we're just quirky backyard cell phone camera kids like you you know
give us all your money to inflate this currency that we made up like i don't know man i think
i mean it's it also i don't know like it's cringy but also makes sense because i think this person
is like we like we always talk about you know when you get wealthy you kind of get you kind of
you're in a uh like a time capsule yeah like your taste you're in a yes man echo chamber you're in a time capsule
you're yeah you don't evolve as a human right and i think she left facebook around like 2012
oh and that this video feels like shitty youtube from 2012 and she's still living in that time when
she like yeah and she still thinks this is cool.
So it's,
I think like in your,
it's genius in the sense that it could work with people.
Like it's so cringe.
Everybody's going to share it.
But at some level it's like,
this person's like,
I don't know.
I'm naturally like this.
And I guess it's working.
I haven't grown as a person whatsoever since 2012.
You see my shirt.
It's a whale that says NFT on it.
2012. You see my shirt?
It's a whale that says NFT on it.
Get out of here.
That was all performance, but people
need to appreciate what Miles just
did. We'll have video one day,
don't worry. One day.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm so profoundly depressed
by what I've just seen.
Hey,
that's it.
For the listeners,
you couldn't see Jack's face,
but he was like staring morosely towards the ceiling.
Like he was praying to God to end it for him.
Why did they come to me to die?
But like,
I'm just like seeing all the meetings where like putting this together,
where she probably had to like work with people who are like creative and good and like i feel like it's gonna be so silly but like also i think the way
what we need to do to like really find out if the cringe is intentional is mariah you use your music
industry contacts reach out to her and be like we saw the video we want to offer you a record deal yeah yeah and see if she's like yes
finally i'm off this crypto shit yeah uh we'll see we all right i don't know yeah we'll see
about it i'll let you i'll follow up let you know how it goes yeah no yeah we need to i'm glad
there's also you know there's a there's a new frank stallone in town you know in terms of uh
just embarrassing siblings yeah we do have to mention what's
happening in the chat right now right is that something no we have to hear about this so
justin's that something you're comfortable talking about uh sure i think um so so all right so real
quick let people know what we're even referencing first. So as we were talking about those corporate videos where, you know, I think there was a video of like a Bank of America song.
That was like a parody of some song, but it was like some really heartfelt that really sticks in my heart and soul as being like a low point of my life prior to watching the videos Miles just showed me.
But as we were talking about that,
Justin put in the chat,
my dad was in a fake corporate band
for McDonald's in the 80s.
So do you want to talk about that?
Yeah.
I need to know.
I definitely need to know.
So my dad was in a band with his older brother
and my godfather.
Shout out Uncle Bobby and Uncle Kevin.
And they had a manager who was in the corporate world, I guess, a little bit.
He was also a singer.
He did a little bit of it all.
And he got them this gig where him and my godfather were teamed up with this fake band for a McDonald's corporation video,
just an internal video that they shared amongst like all of the however many tens of thousands
of employees that McDonald's had at the time in the 80s. I can't remember exactly what year it was,
but my dad had full what he would not describe as Jerry curl, but looks suspiciously like one.
full what he would not describe as jerry curl but looks suspiciously like one um and um i mean i'm talking like leather outfits i'm talking you know like too much fog machine happening just a lot of
the hokiest 80s music video vibes you can you can imagine and he showed me the video actually
in my most recent trip back to chicago and me and him just sat there and bonded for like, oh man, maybe like two hours about just him and a concept album he came up with.
And all this crazy stuff he was doing in the 80s.
And oh, I don't know how deep I want to get into this.
Yeah, you don't have to.
Yeah, but it was all the way in, baby.
Let's go.
It was interesting to say the least.
yeah but it was all the way in baby let's go it was interesting to say the least yeah if anybody wants to know the problem with capitalism instead of having your dad's brilliant concept album we
have the mcdonald's uh corporate pairing with yeah gotta make that paper though you know yeah
yeah i gotta respect the hustle i mean oh absolutely i'm just saying the system sucks
what were the songs about it was about um so I think one was an original, original, I'm pretty sure some guy and 11 other
writers in the corporate office came up with it. And then the other one was a cover. And I think I
had a stroke and permanently deleted these songs from my mind because they were so mind alteringly like just so just like the video clips we just played i was it was hard my dad was
having a ball though and that i was getting a kick out of that he would turn to the camera he's like
oh here comes my sexy look and he would just like you're stealing the camera and it was amazing and
i just had fun watching him relive his history. But he was just excited about the money. He's like, the money was great, bro.
They put us in a five star hotel. They flew us out to they did a shoot in Chicago.
And then that shoot went so well that they did another shoot in California.
And it was supposed to be a band that was there was a whole narrative where they were.
I mean, they shot it like a sitcom. It like a multi-camera sitcom for a little bit they they had like internal struggles they were like showing the
writing process of how this band got together and it was coming up with the song you were in the
recording studio with him was like a documentary but it wasn't real it was so it was like the new
like beatles doc that just came out or it's like yeah yeah and then but only for mcdonald's yeah and only for
employees within the company like uh it was an appreciation video for them somehow i'm not sure
how that translated but get the video man we need to see the thing that really grinds my gears about
this whole story is the fact that they did not release these to the general public no sadly
they have deprived us it's a Grandmaster cycle.
It's great.
I'll have to,
I'll see if I can get my dad
to send me a copy.
I don't think we can play it,
but I will share it with you guys
just so we can all experience it together.
Yeah, we'll reenact it for you
to avoid any litigation.
Thank you so much for sharing that with us.
And we will hunt that video down.
If you have the video let us know
by the way if you want to watch something that like the thing i was referring to that i just
remembered was that two there's a um corporate retreat where two bank of america employees
sing a version of one by you two very heartfelt but it's about a like marketing initiative that
that bank of america has coming up and it's like if you think that it's surreal a like marketing initiative that the bank of america has coming up and it's like if
you think that it's surreal to like go back and watch that lo lo lo video of the guy just being
like lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo and be like what the fuck kind of weird place was the soviet union
like this video is like that but way more depressing. These guys are singing like they have pain in their heart
about the new Bank of America One initiative.
It sucks so bad.
It's amazing.
Okay, we'll link off to that too.
Mariah, such a pleasure as always having you.
You guys, the goats.
Legendary. Legendary. Where can people find you and follow you so you can find me on the internet twitter facebook instagram
l-i-n-q-u-a f-r-a-n-q-a if you were into the music and the raps or you might be interested
and want to go find out about that and then if you want to follow my activism etc you can find
me at baraya f-o-r me at MariahFORAthens.
Mariah for Athens, all the medias.
And hopefully I'll see y'all in South by Southwest.
And there we go.
Go say what's up. And is there a
tweet or some other work of social media
you've been enjoying? So like I said
at the top, I've been getting into TikTok a little
bit. So there's this one TikTok
song I found that
I'm super into. I'll send y'all a video after this so you can like get better audio but i'll play it for
you real quick so i don't know it's just like a random ass little like techno song about how
transphobes and racists and sexists should shut the fuck up. There it is.
Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been
enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram
at Miles of Grey. Also
other pod 420 Day Fiance
with Sophia Alexander. We talk about
90 Day Fiance
and all of its scary
iterations. Okay.
So a tweet I like is from
Vinnie Thomas at Vin underscore A-A-A-Y-I or A-Y-Y tweeted. So, tweet I like is from Vinnie Thomas at Vin
underscore A-A-A-Y-I
or A-Y-Y tweeted,
Oh, you ate your twin inside the womb?
I'm not impressed. Eat your twin
outside the womb and then talk to me.
There we go. Yeah. Level up.
Get on my level. Exactly.
Yeah, exactly. Don't worry about that, man.
What about you, Jack?
What you got?
Yeah.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Robbie Slowick tweeted,
bittersweet announcement,
but after an amazing two years as an infectious disease expert,
I am moving on.
I am now an expert in no-fly zones and Eastern European affairs.
Excited to make the most of this new opportunity.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
And then Benjamin Dreyer, B.C. Dreyer, tweeted because I guess the founder of Entenmann's Cakes passed away.
Oh.
And they tweeted, the weird thing about having an Entenmann's Cake in the house was the way the knife lived in the box for the duration.
Yeah.
I guess I had always assumed that was a weird thing that my family did, but everybody did.
No.
It was just like magnetically pulled.
That's the cake knife.
It's too much work.
Yeah, you just leave that shit.
You're going to wash it between slices?
So it just stays right in the box.
Stays in the box.
Yeah.
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We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
And Miles, what song are we listening to today?
I mean, look, it's not often that we have talented musicians on the show.
And when we do, it's sometimes good to go out on maybe some of their work.
Lingua Franca, what do you think the people should be putting in their ears?
Well, let's fire up my latest single off
of my album bell ringer called okay bell ringer hey you know also really dope uh like breakbeat
that you're chopping up in there yeah okay so we'll go out on bell ringer by lingua franca and
guess what stay tuned because you're actually gonna hear the song after this because when
you're friends with artists you can do stuff like that. Yeah.
Yeah.
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And it will be dismantled soon
No, I know
I will never see the sins that I have bled and grown
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