The Daily Zeitgeist - OMGarosa, Alt-Right Flight 8.13.18

Episode Date: August 13, 2018

In episode 210, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Blake Wexler to discuss Omarosa's messy tapes, the lack of color in the current White House administration, how the Unite The Right Rally 2 went, ...a piece about Stephen Miller's hypocrisy from his uncle, one mothers brutal take on how millennials ruined mayonnaise, Brett Kavanaugh's credit card debt, the firing of Peter Strzok, national left-handers day, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Omarosa Manigault Newman: Former aide taped 'Trump phone call'2. #Breaking@OMAROSA provides @NBCNews with this exclusive excerpt of a recording of a phone call that she says she received from President Trump the day after White House Chief of Staff John Kelly fired her.3. Jonathan Karl asked Kellyanne Conway who the most senior African-American aide to the president was now that Omarosa is gone.4. Trump has caused an identity crisis for American militias5. Stephen Miller Is an Immigration Hypocrite. I Know Because I’m His Uncle.6. How Millennials Killed Mayonnaise7. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh piled up credit card debt by purchasing Nationals tickets, White House says8. FBI agent Peter Strzok fired over anti-Trump texts9. The economic consequences of being left-handed: some sinister results10. Left-Handers in Society11. WATCH: Mereba - Black Truck Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 Thank you to El Borgi, Jeff Van Fundme on Twitter, and thanks to Bam the Old Fork in the eye for calling that one out as an AKA. And, yeah, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's all sight. It's all sight. All sight.
Starting point is 00:02:59 It's news with Mr. Miles Gray. All right. At Scott Bennett. You know I love U2, except my favorite album is Zoropa. So you should know better. The best album from U2. Because I love that song. That was actually my favorite.
Starting point is 00:03:16 That was the first U2 song I ever liked. My dad thought I was nuts. All right. Was the one where the edge sort of raps, like talk, sings? I think that was the first one I liked. Oh, really? Yeah. And it's not a very good good i wonder is that i've gone back and listened to it i just remember just bonded like i feel lemon lemon uh all right never mind it pales in comparison you just you opened up some fucking cormac mccarthy novel with your dj and I'm just doing an old racist Cormac McCarthy old race.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Oh, well, we are thrilled to be joining our third seat by the hilarious stand-up comedian Blake Wexler. Thank you. Thank you, man. I'm great. It's funny looking around the studio. If I didn't know how smart and great this podcast is, it looks like the worst
Starting point is 00:04:02 podcast like just piles of boys and then just various open mints with a couple left yeah spinners yeah but spinners when people come in with no context i think they're like and then i open it up by shouting yeah and like a really insulting german accent and i like start backing out of the room yeah i always watch when it's a new guest when you do that and watch them go. They either go, they're stoic or sometimes they just do a slight like,
Starting point is 00:04:31 oh, okay, so this is a vibe. They pick up their phone and start looking at it like, who do I email about this? How long is this? Little do they know the door is locked from the outside. Well, Blake, we're going to get to know you a little bit better, but first we're going to tell our listeners what they're in store for. You guys, surprise, Omarosa is a little bit messy.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Nobody saw that coming. No, I worry. We're going to talk about the worst case scenario for when you try to pull that can I get a cup for water scam at a place that has soda fountains. We are going to talk about how the Unite the Right 2 rally did not go that great. Was not super impressive.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That's disappointing. I know, we were all looking forward to it. We're gonna talk about two articles that people are passing around today. One is from Stephen Miller's uncle and the other is from the city of Philadelphia. It's about the mayonnaise wars. We'll get into it, you guys.
Starting point is 00:05:31 It's amazing. We're gonna talk. Speaking of white genocide. Yes, exactly. Mayonnaise wars. This is the first step. We're gonna talk about Brett Kavanaugh's weird $200,000 bill that he racked up for Washington Nationals tickets, the Peter Strzok firing, and the fact that it is International Lefties Day.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. All right, Ned. Shout out to fellow lefties. Shout out to Ned Flanders. But first, Blake, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I would have to say recently it was how long until sunburn goes away. Oh, actually, how long until purple sunburn goes away.
Starting point is 00:06:19 What the fuck is that? Purple sunburn is when you don't go out in the sun a lot. And I got burnt so bad. Purple sunburn is when you don't go out in the sun a lot. And I got burnt so bad. It wasn't red. It was almost a beautiful shade of magenta. Holy shit. Wow. A tragic shade of magenta.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And that's what I looked up. Where'd you get it? I actually got it in Ocean City, New Jersey. On your body neck? Oh, I'm sorry. The Ocean City, New Jersey part of my body, actually. Which is my torso. Sorry, it's my lower back. actually got it in ocean city new jersey on your body neck oh i'm sorry uh the ocean city new jersey part of my body right which is my torso yeah sorry it's my lower back that was a much better joke uh because they have tramp stamps on that boardwalk um but uh no yeah it was on like my uh
Starting point is 00:06:57 my my belly my tum tum wow yeah did it get a lot of sun it was like a legit burn? It was beyond burn. I felt it in my organs. It was so, and humiliating, because I should know better. You know what I mean? This happens once every six years. Yeah. I should know a lot better.
Starting point is 00:07:19 What is something that you think is overrated? Overrated? I think all the hate on emotional support animals, I think is overrated. I think the hate should be on people who aren't responsible with them where my girlfriend and i travel with dog and he has uh an emotional support pass and the the hate that you get when you walk onto a plane with a dog because assholes just let their dogs run around the plane which is like that's a problem people are allergic to dogs but i just think if the dog's just sitting there in the corner you know i don't have a problem with it so i think that hate is overrated i think they should
Starting point is 00:07:53 they should dial it back for the pups interesting yeah i had to travel once with my dog and my girlfriend her majesty she got an emotional support pass for the thing and i'm just so like overly considerate like I'm in a panic I'm like if the dog barks I'm gonna be so mortified same and bringing all this attention upon myself and like inconveniencing other people that like I was just in a like a state of panic the entire time and like every time the dog barked I was like right and I was just losing it then to make things worse the second we got off the plane dog about almost like the wildest shit like right off the gate and i had to catch it with my bare hand because i didn't know i literally chris carter one hand scooped that shit out like before
Starting point is 00:08:36 it hit the ground because you tap both feet and yeah literally because i just couldn't live with being like oh and now i'm the guy whose dog just took a shit in the airport too right there's so i get a lot of panic because whenever when you don't expect a dog to bark in a certain context it is so jarring for me like especially at airport yeah i have that panic but you know no hate if you could control your animal more power to you it's these other people who just literally bring a dog on because they don't like it's a workaround right being able to like skirt like actually boarding the dog or whatever right then I have a problem with you. Yeah, I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And you don't need it to be emotional support, or do you now? Because we used to travel with our dog that was like very small. It was like the runt of the litter. And we got her specifically, you know, the smallest of the litter because there was like a size constraint
Starting point is 00:09:21 that you couldn't travel with. And so the reason she was the runt is because she actually had like health problems that we didn't know about. And one time we brought her on the plane and she was not feeling great and escaped from the little carrying bag, ran to first class and took a wild deuce in first class right in the aisle. That is my worst nightmare. And they almost had to land the fucking plane. It was like, Oh my God. It was so bad.
Starting point is 00:09:51 This is unsanitary. It was the worst experience of my life. What kind of dog do you have that you travel with? He's a mix. He's like part Australian cattle dog, part Whippet, but he's like a mid-sized sedan. I'm sorry, what, like the thing we get high off of? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like part Australian cattle dog, part Whippet. But he's like a mid-sized sedan.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I'm sorry, what? Like the thing we get high off of? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's part oxygen. He's part teenager huffing. Yeah. And part- You got one of those crackers you put into an old Balzac balloon?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah. That's what you do in high school. Shout out to the Balzacs. Remember that? No, I don't. Do you remember Balzac was a thing from the early 90s that was like- The philosopher? No.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Was that what he did for a living? No, it was like a huge like do you remember i'm talking was like neon green and it had like checkered patterns just a big fucking balloon with a with fabric around it that people were like it's a balzac oh i actually i do i do know what you're saying they have like a rubber band on it yeah they have ones that have the rubber band on it anyway and you would put whip it in that so yeah back then by the time we were kids doing whip it's you just had like the old bladders lying around for like a ball sack right and so that would be good because you could reuse that to fill with gnaws or whatever and you just do gnaws hits and then the room starts spinning all right cool so your dog is part that of course yeah. So I'm disgusted. Obviously, yeah. Wait, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:05 What's a Whippet? It's like a thin-looking dog. How do you spell that? Jesus Christ. W-H-I-P-P-E-T. Oh, yeah. Is that even right? I didn't even know that.
Starting point is 00:11:18 That's called a Whippet? Yeah, it's like a cute... It looks like a greyhound-y kind of dog. It does look a little greyhound-y, but our dog's a little thicker. All right. Terminal thickness. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Terminal thickness. Blake, what is something you think is underrated? Underrated, to go to my previous point, beach umbrellas. And I think it makes the beach a lot more enjoyable. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's no question about that.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I'm sick of the sun it's just like who's trying to get tan now you know when you're like heading in your 30 like right there's no need everybody on the jersey shore yeah yeah there are so many leathery motherfuckers on the jersey shore yes it's the leather like a leather weathered white person's skin like that you just want to pull to see if it just tears. Just how taut it is. You know, the umbrella is a good thing. As kids, we never thought about it
Starting point is 00:12:12 because you just don't give a shit. But as you're more like, I need shade. And you find yourself at the beach at like 11 in the morning. You're like, I am exposed for this entire day. Those little half tent outdoor things are pretty chill though. Those are sick. Yeah. Those little half tent outdoor things are pretty chill though too. Those are sick. Yeah. Those are important.
Starting point is 00:12:27 We needed to get those at our beach trip. Blake and I were on the Jersey Shore on the same island and didn't know it in early August. No clue. But yeah, we had to. Despite all the press. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Right. I was unplugged. Well, it's weird. He shows up at the restaurant. You show up 30 minutes later. He leaves 20 minutes before. Of course. Then you follow in an unmarked black car.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Whatever. No reservations. Blake, finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? This is just going with the summer beach vibe, traveling, relaxing. My myth is that vacations are actually relaxing. I can't relax on vacations at all i keep working um or if i'm not working i'm like well the industry has forgotten about me they've totally
Starting point is 00:13:14 forgotten um not that they think about me that much anyway but uh whatever thoughts were in their head i have just issues or i don't know with creative stuff like you start thinking of ideas and i'm like oh i need to write these down and then if i don't know with creative stuff. Like you start thinking of ideas and I'm like, Oh, I need to write these down. And then if I don't, then I look back negatively upon my time, you know, trying to relax.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Cause yeah, I don't know if that's a thing where if you reach a certain point in your career, you stop doing that. But yeah, I hope so. Or does that never end? I don't think it ends.
Starting point is 00:13:43 We'll call Bob Odenkirk and get his thoughts on this. And having kids makes it even less of a vacation, I will say. Oh, yeah. Because it's just an opportunity to cram your entire family that you're usually able to spread out over a household into a single room. Because of naps? Yeah, naps and just availability of space, whether you're staying at a hotel or staying with a relative, you don't have multiple rooms to stay in.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah, you're just in the Thunderdome. Right. Well, guys, we got a lot of news to cover. Omarosa back. Reality TV continues to define the zeitgeist, you guys, whether it's Kim Kardashian saying someone isn't interesting to look at or the president being a reality TV star and turning the presidency into a reality show. And now we have somebody who worked for him in the White House who is only known because of her work on a reality show, not success, just being, as Kim Kardashian pointed out, interesting to look at. That is the most important trait you can have.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And Omarosa is definitely interesting to look at. She's back. She's messy. Yes. She's got a book coming out. She does. We know what the playbook is. Stir up as much shit as possible to get people talking about you. And the book, I don't know, off top, the White House
Starting point is 00:15:04 is like, everything in there is a lie. There's nothing true. Like, they were very, very clear that everything in there is just basically slanderous or whatever. But, you know, she kicked off her press tour pretty impressively by leaking two recorded conversations she had during her time there. And it was, like, being so messy.
Starting point is 00:15:20 She's like, they're like, oh, Omarosa, do you have more recordings? And she just looks and goes, oh, yes, I do. And it's really acting like a villain from's like, they're like, oh, Omarosa, do you have more recordings? And she just looks and goes, oh, yes, I do. And it's really acting like a villain from like, I'm back and I'm ready to fuck things up. I think I remember her original season on The Apprentice and that was sort of what she did. She was just like, oh, I'm going to be a villain. Like she just got it immediately. But this is with the government now right you know
Starting point is 00:15:45 like you're taking her out of this medium that ultimately doesn't matter i don't think her and trump know they're in the government oh they well in their defense they don't know it's a new set that they're working on right right right oh we're on a different set yeah where are the cameras and um but yeah it's this is what happens when you put people like this in actual decision making capacities that affect other people's lives. So, yeah, the first one she talks about, you know, she had a recording of when Chief of Staff John Kelly fired her. And it's a pretty long clip that they have or whatever. But the thing that's interesting about this one, aside from him just hearing, he's basically sort of like does like a kind of geezer up sort of being like, look, let's make this as nice as possible because we don't want to make things difficult for you after this.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's like failed threats. Yeah. Like, OK, all right, I'll be cool. But this apparently happened in the fucking situation room. So she recorded a conversation in one of the most sensitive areas of the West Wing where, you know, that's where Obama watched the Bin Laden hit job basically. Alleged. Yeah, whatever. If they got him. Right. But yeah, a lot of shit goes down the situation. Wolf Blitzer wanders
Starting point is 00:16:51 in there by accident. Yeah, but again, it just shows you this room where so many important things have happened, you just can wander in there with your phone or whatever and just make a recording. Whatever. So we found out that she got fired and it was whatever. Then the second clip that she dropped, I think it was either either yesterday or today was a phone call with her and trump where he acts so z-o-m-g surprised uh that she was fired so apparently she was fired and she in the
Starting point is 00:17:15 thing she's like does the president know about this and jonka is like look this isn't a negotiable situation like i'm just like you know tough geyser so let's be ashamed if something happened to your reputation yeah essentially specifically he said that yeah uh sparkling reputation yeah as uh like an actual reality star villain reality show villain this is the recording that she made when she talks with president trump right after being fired marosa what's going on i just saw on the news that you're thinking about leaving what happened general kelly. General Kelly came to me and said that you guys wanted me to leave. No, nobody even told me about it. Nobody. You know, they run a big operation, but I didn't know it.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I didn't know that. Yeah. Damn it. I don't love you leaving at all. Whoa. God damn it. I mean, okay, so you can look at that call how will we go on yeah you can look at that one of two ways one is that he actually knows nothing about what's going on in his own
Starting point is 00:18:14 administration and general keller just calls all the shots which is likely it's right the other is that he totally knew and just because he doesn't he's not really confrontational and he wants to be able to be the good guy acting like all surprised about like he didn't even know like oh really the god damn it to me sounds so foolish he goes god damn it yes damn oh yeah you're so upset that was one of the worst performances i've ever seen like just as a, that was just not good. And he is, if nothing else, a well-practiced liar. He lets out much better lies than that. Yeah. I think there are certain lies he's comfortable with or has convinced himself are true.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And this just didn't happen to be one of those. He was like, okay, she's fired. Okay, let me get on the phone with her. What's going on? What am I reading about? Oh, my God. God damn it. As we were laughing, you can hear him say, I don't love you leaving at all.
Starting point is 00:19:12 That's such a weird way to describe that. Oh, so you'll hire me back again? Okay, I gotta get going. I gotta get going. Hold on. My Big Mac's here. Yeah, I don't know. Look, this sort of underlines the whole problem with this administration, too, is because now she's out and she's talking all this shit.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Trump is on Twitter coming at her intelligence, you know, a typical playbook when it comes to people of color who have any opinion on the president's question, their intelligence. But, you know, after that, the media, you know, rightfully noticed what has always been obvious, like, wait, not a lot of people of color that are working at the highest level in that White House administration. So, you know, on the Sunday shows, Kellyanne Conway was out there and I think she was on, I forget which of the Sunday shows, basically being asked the question, hey, can you name some people of color that work with the president? And it was a little, you know, she didn't have many ideas. And the Omarosa was the most prominent, high-level African-American serving in the West Wing on President Trump's staff. Who now is that person? Who is the most prominent, high-level advisor to the president on the West Wing staff right now? African-American?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yes. on the West Wing staff right now? African-American? Yes. I would say that, well, first of all, you're totally not covering the fact that our Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and world-renowned... I'm asking you about the White House staff.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I'm asking you about the people the president is with every day. That's important that he's... Well, the president works with Secretary Carson every day. He's trying to break the back of... Who there is on the White House staff right now? And we have Jerron, who's done a fabulous job and very involved with, he's been very involved with Jared Kushner and President Trump on prison reform from the beginning. He's been there from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:20:55 He worked with Omarosa and others of us. Does he have an office in the West Wing, Kelly? He has an office in the EOP, absolutely. The executive office of the president, yes. But not in the West Wing. In the EOP, absolutely. The executive office of the president, yes. But not in the West Wing.
Starting point is 00:21:10 What does that say to have not a single senior advisor in the West Wing who's African-American? I didn't say that there wasn't, but hold on. Who is? There are plenty of people, if you're going by that and not by the actions of the president, which you probably should, then you should look at the fact that we have a number of different minorities. And the fact is that this president is doing well for all Americans. Yeah, okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I mean, just look at all the people he appoints to judicial nominations and everything. He has a thing for white guys. I think it's easy to say. Yeah. Yeah. That's one way of putting it. And at first, I thought she was making up Jerron. I was like, oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:21:46 You just made up that fucking name. But it's true, though. There's a man named Jerron Smith who works with Jared Kushner as an executive aide. But who knows in what real capacity that actually is. But, you know, again, it's not surprising when you look at just, you know, again, if she's saying look at the actions of the president, well, then I think that would also be clear to me. That's worse, don't it? Look at the actions of our most racist president. Also, did you see him?
Starting point is 00:22:11 He had all those bikers at the White House this weekend. And the one dude had a patch that said, I like guns and titties. Just prominently on his fucking vest. In parentheses, not necessarily in that order. Yeah, but it was. But in that order. No, yeah, but it was... But in that order. He's like, he's got his arm around
Starting point is 00:22:27 these bikers and one of the dude's patches. All right. He's like, not that his base is all Harley Davidson riders, but didn't he do something
Starting point is 00:22:36 like over the weekend where he's like split? He actually started talking trash on Harley Davidson, right? Because they're going to take some of their operations overseas because of EU tariffs, I guess.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And now Harley-Davidson riders are like, well, fuck, do I like my bike more? Right. Yeah. This big fat racist is calling for a boycott. I mean, look, Trump is only, at most, going to be president for eight years total. Those Harleys, though, they trademark that sound. Yeah. If you take care of it and get their oil changed, if you can do that with a motorcycle,
Starting point is 00:23:06 then they'll hold up for years. I wonder how many. I don't know. What other bike would you ride? A fucking Honda? Yamaha, baby. No, that's too foreign. Yeah, that's too foreign.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Like a Royal Enfield? Too English, too European. I don't know. Anyway. I don't know shit about motorcycles. Hey, it's all good, bro. I thought you would, Jack. You strike me as a big hog guy
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Starting point is 00:28:04 They decided to have it right across the street from the White House. I don't know how they figured they'd get away with that, with this president of ours who's, as you can tell just looking at his behaviors and his actions, if not his hiring practices, he's the least racist person ever. But so, you know, the idea, I think they had permitted for 400 neo-Nazis and skinheads and white nationalists. Oh, no, no, not officially. We're not aligned with them.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Right, right. Although, when you put the speaker list, too, they were neo-Nazis. Right. So they were expecting 400, and they drew, was it four? Less than 40. Oh, 24. It was about two dozen people. and they drew, was it four? Less than 40. Oh, 24. It was about two dozen people.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Maybe a little more. Two dozen hundred? No, two dozen hundred. Two dozen. Yes, two dozen hundred. Okay, okay. Yeah, so it was between two dozen and 40 that they actually had come out to, you know. I think people last year after, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:08 they all showed up in their white shirts and no masks, which was really the most surprising part of their decision, their decor at the Unite the Right rally, the first one, they were just like, this is cool now, right, everyone? We're good. We're all the right. And then a bunch of them got fired. What do you mean I can't come in on Monday?
Starting point is 00:29:25 And outed in their communities as being hateful racists. And now that apparently, people weren't fond of how that went down. No, that's just completely tanked. I mean, not that there was any stock or social cachet with being a white nationalist, but people were definitely like, yo, I can't be out here like that like i'm not that down with it i mean because i think he could only find about 30 people who are that ignorant and shameless to go out and be like yeah we're fucking here for the unite the right to right uh the counter protesters however they came on the thousands right so you know it's very clear that i think you know one is less meaningful let's say less sexy to the general
Starting point is 00:30:04 public uh but i think jason kessler man he's had a lot of problems too because the other thing that that I think one is less meaningful, let's say, less sexy to the general public. But I think Jason Kessler, man, he's had a lot of problems too because the other thing that this whole failure of the Unite the Right rally shows is there's a lot of fracturing going on in this whole alt-right community where they don't know who to follow, who actually is the leader.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Half of them are getting scrubbed off of Twitter and things like that, so it's become very fractured. And Jason Kessler, he's burned a lot of bridges in the neo-Nazi community because there are people like on Gab, they're like, you know, chat site that they can talk shit on. They were all being like, no, this guy has no manpower. No one follows him anymore. Like I advise you to not go. It's going to be dangerous. And, you know, he's also like he hasn't been able to fundraise like on any kind of website that like makes it easier to collect funds from people. So he's basically limited to like cash and check donations.
Starting point is 00:30:50 So he's has less and less organizing power. And so it was kind of like on right wing watch, our boy, Jared Holt was always saying like, this is probably gonna be a flop just from the onset based on how nobody's really like with each other on the same side anymore compared to last year because of all the fallout. Jason Kessler was the guy who organized the, last year's charlottesville yeah yeah I mean that's the problem with your movement being fully obsessed with categorizing people and hating them right like you're going to have some divisions that open up and some of those people aren't going to be fully on board with your type of
Starting point is 00:31:25 white nationalism um yeah one one of the white nationalists or neo-nazis was mad because jason kessler had like a non-white person working like at a higher level with him right and he's like not to mention that like there's not even all white people in his organization right yeah so something i didn't realize richard spencer who uh likes to focus his brand of white nationalism and white supremacy on uh claiming that it's like all about european culture right and like different people coming from european nations and having something special i didn't realize that over the past year he has been banned from like most european countries yeah he's like not allowed to go there a lot of those people can't yeah people are kind of running away from this movement that's how fractured it is by the way
Starting point is 00:32:08 is that so few people want to join the movement that they have to hire minorities right in order to fill these these white positions right it's like not even white people want this job as a movie black klansman shows right yeah the plot of that? They just got, you know, the other aspect of this is, you know, last year they had a lot of like paramilitary, militias like pull up at the Unite the Right thing, like oath keepers and stuff like that to, you know, protect them. And you could see like that site was pretty out there when you saw all these dudes in this tactical gear and being like, yeah, we're aligned with this group. But because of that fallout, those militias have even like pulled away from kind of being out there because the optics like aren't really helping them.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Right. And I was reading this piece, which is kind of interesting, is like how the militias have kind of lost their way now that Trump is president. Because even with like Bush, too, and Clinton and Obama, they were able to like have this like it's this like neo-globalist, you know, conspiracy to bleed America dry and blah, blah, blah. And like, so we got to be ready. And like, so when Trump was running, they were all like, yeah, this is our guy. This is our guy. And a lot of analysts were like, if Hillary Clinton wins, I think we need to really be prepared for what the fallout is going to look like with these militias and things like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:19 But then he won. And now they're kind of like have an identity crisis because they're like, wait, our in power so what do we yeah how do we hate yeah and like and they were sort of tracking it like first it was antifa because then it was easy to be like oh yeah okay we're diametrically opposed and then that kind of fell off so then it was immigrants then muslims and now the new thing is they're just obsessed with the civil war like that's the next thing that they've given themselves like well okay we gotta be ready for like, libs versus conservatives race war. Drudge was trying to popularize the whole anti-Antifa thing yesterday because, like, a lot of the top headlines were like, it's getting ugly out there.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And then it would be like a video of Antifa, like, pushing a camera away or something like that. Right, right, right. And then a lot of places were writing that shit up like in the coverage of this like of open white supremacy in this country they're getting mad at like antifa for clashing with like other like when you saw like in portland a few weeks ago the police definitely from what i saw like what the reporting was they seem to be much more aggressive with like the counter protesters than they were with like the white nationalists and a lot of the coverage is more focused on what they're doing rather than these white
Starting point is 00:34:28 nationalists who are out here, you know, spreading all this hatred. So the coverage of it was a little odd to me, too, from some place, not everybody. But yeah. And I mean, I think there's also a sense in which they overplayed their hand a little bit. Like, I mean, there there are people who are invigorated by trump's you know election and feeling like okay now i can you know let my racist inner thoughts and feelings out into the open and they did that last year and they sort of overplayed their hand and you know a lot of them got fired from their jobs right uh you know there i think there's also like when you watch that vice documentary last year uh with that guy who's like yeah, we got all the guns and we got all this.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And just talking with his chest out like he was about to go whoop some ass and was very angry and seemed sure of himself. And then the next video we saw of him, he was weeping and being like, I'm so scared. Please don't hurt me about the cops because he got in trouble for being openly violent. I just feel like when your movement is about violence and a very, very limited worldview, you're not going to have very stable leadership a lot of the time. Oh, no, yeah. And there's another guy who was very i forget where the article was but it
Starting point is 00:35:46 was a guy who wrote for you know a mainstream outlet who used this right wing kind of mainstay as a source and over the past year that source disappeared because he actually stabbed his father to death like was that the guy in oregon yeah right or washington or washington right yeah northwest right yeah uh so it's like you know so a lot of these people who were big personalities and who were you know out there pushing this point of view they don't last long in the public eye for any number of reasons yeah well it just shows you that they're rallying like the thing that brings them together is literal hatred. Right. And violence. Right. That's not most people are pretty chill.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Right. You know, they're not wired like, you know, you'll you'll have people who are very angry and you can get those people. But that's but you look at the counter protesters. They are they rally around the idea of of inclusion and unity and like empathy. That's a that's much more broader audience for that. Right. And like, hey, man, you fucking hate immigrants, man. And you're going to fucking beat some people. Right. Like, yo, no. Like, not really.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I'm not that. Like, I'd rather just, you know, shame some racists. Right. It's harder to get behind that point of view now more than ever because you can't burn all the books. Like, you know, there's still the internet and like eventually like the internet can be bad if you just get in to like one small group where everybody's talking crazy but like eventually you can go out and do your own research and doesn't look good there there's also Stephen Miller's uncle just published an article where it's almost surprising how basic it was. He was just like, hey, so our great
Starting point is 00:37:26 grandfather came here because of, you know, there were anti-Semitic programs and like he was trying to escape like just horrible treatment in his home country. And he came through Ellis Island and then he like worked and paid for his, you know your great-grandfather to come over, and it's basically chain migration. He's like, so how are you going to? It's just like this ideology that these groups and that your Stephen Millers of the world espouse is just so transparently, it doesn't hold up under scrutiny. just like it doesn't hold up under scrutiny that I don't know. It seems like every time they just get put down or, you know, every time someone points out the insanity of their argument, it's like, yeah, that's pretty obvious. It turns out.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And that whole letter is like he's just like, I'm ashamed of him. Yeah. He knows better. Yeah. Like he and like the thing that was really to that point is like he points out that Stephen Miller is well aware of their family's history. Oh, yeah. Coming from like a shtetl in what is now Belarus, like to coming here. And the article is almost like, my man, how the fuck are you even thinking like this?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Knowing our family's history. Right. Like that. This is this exact kind of policy that could have gotten, you know, our ancestors killed and we wouldn't even fucking be here. You wouldn't even be at Santa Monica High School being like, I think the janitors need to speak English. Right. Anybody with me? And that's why I'm running for student president, which is like one of his speeches that he made.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah. Jesus Christ. Legendary YouTube clip of him in high school. Yeah. I mean, the cowardice of getting over the wall from a danger and pulling the ladder up behind you is, yeah, it's just obvious. It's like, yeah, man, that's not a good look. And I don't think they ever cared that it would be a good look, you know, or even thought that, like, that's the most infuriating part of all of this. It's like, yeah, he doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Like, he knows that his family comes from a long line of immigrants he doesn't care like he pulled the rope back you know what i mean like this is just what's gonna keep happening right and when he gets called like oh yeah oh by the way what you do is illogical it's like yeah obviously it's illogical none of it is logical hate is not logical it's just all self-serving things and i don't think this will like oh oh, Stephen Miller is not a great guy. Holy shit. Right. Thank you, Uncle Miller. It's like, yeah, I think most people who come to America, like, you know, when you ask all these people, I think pretty much everyone has a backstory about, oh, yeah, they came here for a better opportunity at some point. Even if you're one of these daughters of the revolution type people, like there are people still coming here because they're like, oh, I'm not feeling this place. I'm coming here.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And this will offer me the opportunity. But it's easy to forget that. I think the only person who came to America and just to not escape anything bad was Prince Akeem in coming to America. Because he was just looking for a shorty. Right. Thank you, King Shit.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. Thank you, Prince Akeem. And send me. Yes, fuck you too. So from the really obvious white supremacy to the less obvious, we wanted to talk about this article that when you read the headline, and it's basically when you read every word of it, it really seems like a piece of just on-the-nose satire. So it's an article from an American food columnist writing in Philadelphia Magazine, and it's called How Millennials Killed Mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Mmm, yummy. The subhead is, The inexorable rise of identity condiments has led to hard times for the most American of foodstuffs, and that's a shame. And then there's an animation of a guy in like Bose headphones just stabbing it with a spreadable knife.
Starting point is 00:41:13 And the helmet's spraying everywhere. Yeah. So we start with a rundown of how she's noticed that people stopped eating her dishes at family barbecues. And from that, she draws the conclusion that it's because of identity politics and because millennials don't think mayonnaise is lit, I guess. She writes, about a decade ago, though, I began to notice I was toting home as much
Starting point is 00:41:39 of my offerings as I'd concocted. My contributions were being overlooked or shunned oh my so it's a it's a deliberate shunning of her mayonnaise based dishes she seems fun to invite to a barbecue oh yeah with a little tally hey why aren't you in that potato salad right why are you in that pasta salad yeah what about your politics makes you not like my food what yeah and it's just she's so six it's so transparent because on one hand it could be i don't i still am struggling to know if this is slightly satirical but also there are other points that she makes that sounds like a very upset mother who is realizing that her kids are getting older they don't think she's cool anymore and mayonnaise sucks and that is actually uh like
Starting point is 00:42:26 some kind of metaphor for what else is going on because she breaks down the fucking history of her family's history yeah history of mayonnaise she goes into this deep historical reading of why mayonnaise used to be so important to quote us as quote americans because we were quote strivers. Mayo Americanase again is what we came up with. Am I right? That's really good. That's really good. All right. Let's print that on a shirt.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Done and done. Can we just end the episode there? A white shirt. Yeah. You can't see the text. But yeah, she writes about how America in the 1950s was full of strivers like mom, desperate to forget family legacies of latkes and boxties. And I'm going to mispronounce all this shit.
Starting point is 00:43:12 But basically just saying that we were trying to leave behind our ethnicities for a more like American uniform, homogeneous type of lifestyle. Right. And she literally says the word like homogeneity in here. Yeah. Like that that's what we used to be striving for. What the fuck happened? And now we all want these like different, she keeps referring to things as like exotic.
Starting point is 00:43:33 That's how she's describing like sriracha. Yeah, exactly, sriracha. And then she gets into the personalities of, you know, what's really at stake for her. What's really going on here. My son Jake, who's 25, eats mayo. He's a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Incel. He's a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women's and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. Okay, hold on. And she's not alone. What?
Starting point is 00:44:04 Naturally. What do you mean naturally? Right. Right. Well, that's typical. Well, you know how feminists hate that condiment. Yeah, exactly. Everyone's on board, right?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah. That's where you start to see, oh, you're becoming very transparent now. Yeah. There's your son. Right. Who likes your mayonnaise. He's a good boy.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Your wacky, woke-ass daughter who went off to college to learn about some weird shit like gender is fluid or some nonsense. She don't fuck with mayonnaise because she's evil. She's the devil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Of course not. Yeah, her understanding of her daughter is that she hates mayonnaise because it's not exotic enough because she can only understand foreign things and other identities as exotic. Right. And that's the only value they could have to people who embrace them.
Starting point is 00:44:52 It can't be because mayonnaise is larded egg yolk and salt jelly that literally looks like the stuff you clear out of arteries when you're trying to save somebody's life. stuff you like clear out of arteries when you're like trying to save somebody's life um it's she just thinks it has to be this like knee-jerk frivolous desire for the exotic literally what killed mayonnaise is aioli is a hunt is a hundred thousand fucking percent what killed that condiment she's because it's just better no that's not it let me me tell you why. Oh. She says, young people like my daughter seem to have extrapolated this masking function of mayonnaise from condiment to culture. For them, mayo quite literally whitewashed America's immigrants
Starting point is 00:45:33 into eating dull food. And newer generations are refusing to meekly fall in line with a culinary heritage that was never theirs. Instead, they're gobbing up kefir and chimichurri and gochujang again. Right. And then she goes, they're also shunning kefir and chimichurri and gochujang again. And then she goes, they're also shunning their parents' preferred restaurants, Applebee's, Ruby Tuesday, TGI Fridays, to seek out more authentic fare. And then this is where you get to it.
Starting point is 00:45:55 It's obvious to me that this condimental divide can be traced to young folks' rejection of what they sneeringly consider a boring white food. Do you think 23andMe and MyHeritage and all those other DNA testing companies are flourishing because people want to know that their ancestors came from Aberdeen? Hells no. I don't know. Hells no. Wait, did she actually write that? I thought that was a little improv by you.
Starting point is 00:46:17 No, that's in text. This is all verbatim. They want to be, they want to be, and she writes it like a wannabe, like if you want to be my lover, They want to be, they want to be, and she writes it like a wannabe, like if you want to be my lover, not want to be. They want to be from Marrakesh or Manchuria or Malawi. It's the same with condiments. I'm not part of the elderly
Starting point is 00:46:34 Mayo masses. I'm turkey and Swiss on ciabatta with tzatziki, chipotle spread, and a little basil pesto. That's who I am, dammit. My sandwich, myself. I don't like new good shit. Right. By the way, also, the most exotic sandwich she can come up with is
Starting point is 00:46:49 turkey and Swiss. But it's on ciabatta, so I mean, pretty out there. She's like, what's that? Oh, Italian bread? Ew. Right. Yeah, she spends a lot of time on the white European roots of mayonnaise, and there is interesting stuff in here about mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Like as a food, food tasters and food critics respect it. They say all the flavors blend together. It's perfectly balanced. Nothing sticks out. Everything is appropriate. And then she writes after that quote, italics, nothing sticks out. Mayonnaise isn't bland. It's artfully blended.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It's an evocation of the era I grew up in, of the homogeneity of that old, dead American dream. So nothing sticks out. Key. We don't want people who stick out. We want something that is homogeneous and white. And white. Imagine going into an art what if she has no like she's not trying to have any thinly veiled message on this in her mind she's just writing an article making fun of millennials and then all of a sudden she's like wait what do
Starting point is 00:47:58 you mean i'm a racist like this is how she finds out whoa how did people have this oh my god i guess it is there i guess i do hate my daughter. Yeah, Jesus. Because I can clearly see that what happened was they went to this outing and her macaroni salad and potato salad just sat there, because it's probably whack anyway. And she's going, how come you're not eating it? And her daughter goes, mom, stop pushing people
Starting point is 00:48:18 to eat your macaroni salad. They'll just eat what they want to. It's also interesting that my female daughter, why'd you call her a female daughter? And then her daughter probably goes look mom mayonnaise is just gross and you know that's something you wanted to do it's old-timey and like we're just into other stuff and she went excuse you gender studies psycho that is your cultural inheritance mayonnaise um which sucks if that's literally what you think about your culture. I mean, she gets angry. The other thing is they're talking about it like,
Starting point is 00:48:48 oh, I wonder what could have happened. She's like, she points out all these BuzzFeed articles that were talking shit about mayonnaise. And then she's like, this one professor said it was too disgusting to ingest, described it. Then she puts in a quote from another article. It says, its viscous quality is the sort of thickness that you'd get from fluid oozing out of a rotted carcass.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And then the quote goes on. Then she starts her paragraph. This is bullshit. This attitude comes to you from young people who willingly slurp down eight kazillion kinds of yogurt, not to mention raw fish
Starting point is 00:49:16 and pork belly and yo, detergent pods? So don't talk to me about mayonnaise. It has to be satire, right? I don't know, man. We're going to be soire right i don't know man we're gonna be so embarrassed if it is i know i won't be i will i will just tip my hat i will oh yeah because i
Starting point is 00:49:32 well i will without knowing my analysis is this is actually great like for it to be from the perspective of this work of satire yeah this this mother or not yeah right right this mother who has her mayonnaise based existence is is a threat is it's being threatened by millennials uh and then she goes into this other part she goes and this is where i'd be you know it could be satire because there are all these parallels to like our political discourse now which says quote i thought young people today were supposed to be all about inclusion about kindness and compassion and making other people feel welcome so how about you you include a little mayo in your picnic fare? And it goes down a little bit and she says, just because something is old and white doesn't mean it's obsolete. Look at Shakespeare. Look at me. Look at me though. Really see me. And then, so all of this goes back to an observation
Starting point is 00:50:21 that she made because people weren't eating her potato salad. When you read the first paragraph through again, it seems that people stopped eating it after she makes the point that it was her mother's recipe that she passed down to her. And it seems like people stopped eating it when she started making it. So maybe she's just like not good at making the potato salad. And people are just like, we're not really into mayonnaise anymore, I guess, is what will make you stop talking about this. I substitute the potatoes for plums,
Starting point is 00:50:54 and people have been having an issue with it for some reason. This plum mayonnaise salad? Yeah. And I can't get, I would hope i've looked on her twitter i'm trying to find out if this is satirical the her last tweet uh was about her posting her mom's macaroni salad recipe she says there have been a lot of requests for this we boomers are nothing if not accommodating macaroni salad i'm fine with mayonnaise on a sandwich mayonnaise like my wife hates it uh i am fine with it uh but
Starting point is 00:51:27 macaroni salad is fucking gross guys come on i'll eat macaroni salad get out of here i fuck with mayonnaise okay okay see you guys oh no no no no no no no oh okay well if it's a job for me um welcome back to the dz I mean, yeah. Going around this table, is anyone in this room staunchly opposed to mayonnaise in general, conceptually? No. Right? No, not at all. Everyone I'm looking at, no?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Okay, Super Producer Nick Stumpf just said he thinks it's pretty nasty. Okay. Yeah, but you're a millennial. Anne Hosnier? Anne Hosnier? Don't pantomime shooting him. You love it. I'm not against mayonnaise. I'll fuck with mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I'll eat macaroni salad. I'm disgusting. I will ask for it not to be on a sandwich, but if it comes on the sandwich, I'll be like, fine. You know, like I won't even, yeah. Okay, but you don't seek out mayonnaise. I do not. So you try to avoid it when possible. Yeah, but I won't.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah, it won't ruin my day. Right, right, right. But I think maybe this, you're the kind of millennial she's talking about here. You're one of these male-phobes. My male-phobe. Anyway, everyone should be using Kewpie mayonnaise, Japanese mayonnaise. That's the wave. Exotic mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I get it. You know what? But she calls it out. Eastern mayo. She calls it. Eastern mayo. She calls it out in this article, though, of things that, new wavy mayonnaise that people should still be fucking with. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:50 So in that way, Susan, I'm with, or Sandy, Sandy Hingston, I'm with you. But then her Twitter, I was going through her Twitter. There's, like, a photo with her and all these other, like, older baby boomer white women. She's like, vacation in New Hampshire with all my middle school best friends. And it looks like whatever the mayonnaise Illuminati. Amazing. Like where they gather and they set forth the agenda for big mayonnaise. She just like is tweeting heart emojis at Heinz.
Starting point is 00:53:15 You know, that's her whole. I mean, she really goes all in for Hellman's. Yeah. And a lot of it really is like wrapped up in her mother and her father, too. She's talking about how much her father loved Hellman. So there are times where it's a very real, like, as a piece of satire, it would be great because it would come off as this person who's completely unaware of what they're saying. But also, I don't know. I'm still struggling with what this actually is.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And also her whole ancestors and familial heritage. Like, this just goes to, to oh name one thing about your grandfather that you love so much uh oh and that's the first thing not that he was a good you know loving family member his stance towards mayonnaise yeah mostly that decorated navy pilot i don't know i don't know for sure what i do know is that he loved mayonnaise. Oh. And I mean, this is not to deny in any way that there is such a thing as like political taste in food. I mean, the first comparison to America is American as apple pie. And one of the things she calls out is she's like, oh, these millennials are scared of mayonnaise for health reasons, but they'll eat raw fish.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Right. She can't deal with the idea of sushi and the fact that it's healthy. Yeah. I don't know. This is what conservatism is at its core is conserving tastes, conserving ideals. Right. It's the kind of thing where a dude would be like, I ain't doing no yoga. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:44 That's freaky shit. Right. I'm going to fucking just lift some weights, man. Right. would be like, I ain't doing no yoga. Right. That's freaky shit. Right. I'm going to fucking just lift some weights, man. Right. Leave me alone. I ain't doing no Pilates. What am I, a fucking weirdo? It happens in sports, too, where soccer still hasn't totally caught on because people see that as a European.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, they just fall down all the time. Yeah. They're trying to fucking kick a ball that hard, motherfucker. Yeah. I mean, I'm telling you, the thing that really got me too is another one the second you try and actually do what you see on screen is the second those people begin respecting that as a sport because yeah i can't run at full speed with a ball and i look weird or like control it anyway i can get the whole thing but yeah it is true that even with food or whatever where someone will be like
Starting point is 00:55:22 you know there's some burger and they're like can I not get the whatever Chipotle blah blah blah on there I just I like it plain right yeah you're not gonna turn into a liberal all of a sudden because you ate food from another country and you won't start caring about other people all of a sudden you know God for fucking bit
Starting point is 00:55:39 but I do think taste is like there's a reason we call our preferences for all things taste. Is it really like it is the first thing that we have personal, almost cultural preferences for. So yeah, but now everything is Asian. Right. Everything is fusion or Asian. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:58 You know, you get tacos. They're Asian now. This Korea, it's a town now. There's a Chinatown. It's weird. I don't know. So everything is right so I don't have a passport yeah I don't need one I don't need I'm not going anywhere I live in the best place in the world uh well yeah one way or another there's a reason we've talked more about this article than any
Starting point is 00:56:24 single article in the history of the show. It is the perfect article. She captured the zeitgeist in one article. And I'm just going to tweet at her right now. I'll go, yo, is this satire? Hey, I can't tell how you do your job. Are you being serious or kidding? All right.
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Starting point is 01:00:32 We're so excited for you to hear our brand new podcast, Señora Sex Ed. Listen to Señora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. And Brett Kavanaugh. Yes. So this dude was nominated for the Supreme Court, like, when was that? Like a couple years ago?
Starting point is 01:01:01 It seems... Like a month ago. No way to know for sure. So, like... It's 2019 right right now right so his confirmation hearing is probably going to be happening in the next couple months soon i mean they're fucking they won't even let the archives release all the documents he's tied to because oh yeah he had his hands in all kinds of shit meanwhile i just have to point out uh when elena kagan was up for nomination the conservatives got every single fucking document they had to to hold that shit up uh but for whatever reason now you know we don't you know we don't know mostly
Starting point is 01:01:35 because this is the dude who if if it goes to the supreme court of whether or not the president can be subpoenaed or has to cooperate in this investigation he he's going to be the one who's like, no, fam. Right. He's very pro-executive power when that executive is not Bill Clinton. Very pro-baseball, too. Vehemently pro-baseball. Pro-pro-baseball. So he has or had racked up $200,000 in debt buying Washington Nationals tickets,
Starting point is 01:02:04 which seems like a weird thing you would hear about on a hoarder's show. It's just this bizarre preference OCD. He's a sadist. He's just buying a bunch of seats, doesn't even use them or something. Because you looked up how much Nationals season tickets cost. For the inside dugout club which was like the highest selectable ticket plan for the nationals was 6,500 for a season 6,500 6,500 dollars and he racked up
Starting point is 01:02:32 200,000 dollars like over like 10 years but still even if you even if you had two season tickets right for 10 years they'll be 120 pay at all for them? Well, this is the thing. So the Washington Post first reported about it, and so they asked the White House, they're like, yo, what's good? Why is this man spending so much money on tickets? And Raj Shah responded, he was saying, like, yeah, he goes to games with a, quote, handful of friends, and, like, these friends then reimbursed him for the tickets,
Starting point is 01:03:00 and all the debts have been paid off, which is probably true. I think they found this through, like, other documents or whatever. But or whatever but that may be fine but yo who is he going with and who is he schmoozing with and is that going to lead to some conflict of interest what kind of tax shit is he doing like is he trying to show this as a they don't know it's just a weird thing for that much money to be spent on the washington nationals Just poor decision-making as well. You know, just like, why are you spending? And he didn't have to sit there. I know. He could have.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He's so childish. It's so silly. It's so. That's what I would do with my, like, if I had that money, that's what I would do with that money. And I shouldn't be a Supreme Court justice because I make decisions like that. Right, right, right. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Yeah. Yeah. I just picture him with a foam finger at the game like that that sort of fandom just like just a little baseball helmet with ice cream and he spills it on his robes yeah he has to wear it yeah he has to wear the robe out in public right well in the uh he's a mascot and racism down the field with those fucking presidents or whatever it's justice speed run as fast as you can but yeah they pro publica was also putting out a piece where they're like did you go to a nationals game with a supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh like we need to know what the
Starting point is 01:04:18 fuck is going on with this because they just they're like there has he got some explaining to do yeah and in the article they're like they go down the way, here's what we do know. It's kind of funny. We know he bought season tickets at the end of 2016, likely for the 2017 season. He also bought tickets to some playoff games. He might not have been sitting in the same seats for those. He has reportedly gone to games in the past with U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg, an Obama nominee who is his ex-roommate from law school.
Starting point is 01:04:42 He's been photographed at least twice wearing blue striped polo shirts. So have you seen this man at a national game? Were the stripes vertical? Have you seen a middle-aged white man at a baseball game wearing a blue striped polo shirt? If so, contact ProPublica immediately. That was the
Starting point is 01:05:00 end of that publication. But I think there's his daughter sitting next to him. This photo they do have of him. She looks bored out of her fucking mind. It looks like a kid who was dragged to a baseball game. Although when I was back East hanging out with my dad, he was watching a lot of baseball and I'm now just,
Starting point is 01:05:22 I'm back into baseball as background noise. Just having it on. Yeah. Great thing to have on. You can tune in and out. It's great. Completely. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So Nationals, holler at Jack for us. Yeah, exactly. So Peter Strzok was fired. Apparently, this was not, you know, they asked the FBI, somebody who would know how you should handle the things that he did wrong. Termination, yeah, whatever. And he was like, yeah, he should be demoted and suspended for, I think, a few months. Right, and have a disciplinary hearing too.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Right. Which he didn't have. Instead of doing that, they just fired him. And Peter Strzok is the guy who had the text messages that everyone on the GOP tries to be like, we're going to stop him. And they're like you see the fbi has been against him man the deep state blah blah blah and then he went guy yeah then he went to the hearing in front of the house intel committee and just owned everybody like he was just like nah fam like i'm not a partisan i said that because of these things because the president
Starting point is 01:06:17 is dangerous in these ways uh but yeah now he's fired so that doesn't smack of a politically motivated firing at all so he was taken off the Mueller investigation, right? And then just put back into the FBI, and then they still fired him? Oh, that's fucking ridiculous. Yeah, he was taken off the Mueller team. They were doing the right thing. They demoted him. They took him off the thing where there was a conflict of interest,
Starting point is 01:06:38 and then they just fired him. What? It was today, right? Yeah. We found out today, but he was told, I think, Friday. They're like, you're going to be fired. I thought he had already been fired, but that was Andrew McCabe, who's the other-
Starting point is 01:06:48 It's hard to keep track of all the FBI people that have been fired. There's been a lot. Yeah. And finally, just wanted to give a shout out to my fellow lefties. It is International Left-Handed Persons Day. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:01 They've gotta have a better name than that. But yeah, well, I think left-handedness is interesting. I write and do small things lefty and then play sports and do big things righty. Wait, you throw left-handed? Yeah. No, I throw righty. Oh, right. You write left-handed.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Do small things lefty. But your golf swing? So basically, I have all the disadvantages of being lefty, but none of the advantages. Because being lefty in sports is great. Because, you know. Yeah, be a southpaw, yeah. Yeah. You don't have to play catcher.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yeah, you're an awkward guard in basketball. Right, right. But yeah, I think left handedness is interesting. Like six of the last 13 presidents were left handed, even though we only make up 10% of the population. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are lefty. I think there's a theory that dyslexic people are a larger portion of the billionaire entrepreneur population than they should be. They only make up a small percentage of the population, but it's like 20% of billionaire entrepreneurs are dyslexic. And the theory on that is that because you're dyslexic, you have to like learn these like hacks to get through life, like different ways to like approach problems.
Starting point is 01:08:18 And that contributes to. What kind of hacks are you coming up with? Like being like, hi, I have to sit at the end of the table during this meal so my elbow doesn't make sure well hack yeah you have to learn how to use scissors differently you have to learn how to like my writing i have to like curl my arm all the way around uh i think your mind's i think it's a very yeah your mind is just programmed differently i think i think it's just a very mild form of that, essentially. Well, my mom's left-handed, and the only thing that I really took from that
Starting point is 01:08:50 is she would always be like, I have to sit at the end of the table. Yeah. Because I'll be hitting people. And that was it. It's also the best seat at the table. Yeah. She might have just started using her left hand
Starting point is 01:08:59 to sit at the end of the table. I don't know, really. All power to her. That's great. Because I caught her writing with her right the other day. Anyway, that's another podcast. That caught her writing with her right the other day. Anyway, that's another podcast. That's called a cliffhanger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Dun dun dun, Blake, it's been a pleasure having you. Thank you. Where can people find you, follow you? BlakeWexler.com, at Blake Wexler on social media. My next album comes out September 7th, it's called Stuffed Boy, and I think you can get it the week before pre-order. I'm going to be at the Petaluma
Starting point is 01:09:28 Comedy Festival this weekend in Petaluma, California. Doing a couple shows. Is there a tweet that you've been enjoying? Yeah, my friend and also a very funny comic, Chris Fleming tweeted something and he's at Chris Fleming
Starting point is 01:09:43 F-L-U-M-I-N-G and he wrote if you really want to panic listen to Elton John trying to end Benny and the Jets. I love that tweet. Benny! Just desperately
Starting point is 01:09:59 how do I do this? Miles. Yeah? Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. And a tweet that I laughed at was more of a video of Justin Bieber dancing real weird, like locking and shit at the show. But someone retweeted the video and said,
Starting point is 01:10:20 Justin Bieber danced like a downtown Oakland crackhead. And it looks like he's got the washed old man locking. It's weird. It looks like a guy whose ego has betrayed his actual sense to give himself an objective idea of how well he can dance. And he's just too gassed up.
Starting point is 01:10:37 It's just like, okay, alright, Justin. He's past the point of no return. He's like, I'm dancing bad on purpose. Yeah, because I got Christ in my veins. A tweet I enjoyed was from Johnny Sung, who tweeted, You agree to have your year sorted algorithmically instead of chronologically. You experience all your most exciting and memorable moments first. The algorithm hides all your negative and lackluster ones.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Your entire year is four days long. You suddenly have no idea who you are. Which I think is a good description of how social media works we should also shout out our friend who put us onto that mayonnaise piece for without you, Zeitgang we would not be talking about that article
Starting point is 01:11:15 shout out to Betamax999 Chris Perkins great find, dude that was good, man not often, people come with the fire mayonnaise stinks and you can follow me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien
Starting point is 01:11:31 you can follow us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes and we also post the footnotes in the description of the episode. Just click the little thing on wherever you're listening to it,
Starting point is 01:11:50 the little information thing. You should be able to see our footnotes. And footnotes are where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be? Going out on a track by Mareva. It's a 9th Wonder produced song track by maraba uh it's a ninth wonder produced song uh called black truck uh and it's nice you know with the intro going and then the beat drops
Starting point is 01:12:11 in it just works very well and i think she's from alabama uh but she's she's on the come up i was it is good it is good people uh. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. See you later. I've been through the fire I've felt embers down my spine And I said, world, would you please have some mercy on me? Lord, could you please lift the curses on me?
Starting point is 01:13:15 He said, you always did Like it the hard way since you was a kid Look at the scars on your legs, ooh You keep choosing the wild road Ooh, not soft Stay sick cause I follow my gut Ooh, not sorry Stay sick cause I follow my gut They say I was pushing my luck I'ma push me a metal black truck Ooh, I'm not sorry Stay sick cause I follow my gut They say I was pushing my luck I'ma push me a all black truck
Starting point is 01:14:13 I'ma push me a all black truck I'ma push me a Mack all I've been through the storm I've heard the news in my heart And I've said, world, would you please shine a light upon me? Or would you show me a sign you love me? You always did Like it the hard way Since you was a key
Starting point is 01:14:52 Time after time again You keep choosing the wild road To go You keep choosing the wild road Oh, I'm not sorry Stay sick cause I follow my gut They say I was pushing my luck I'ma push me, I'm that all black truck Oh, I'm not sorry
Starting point is 01:15:22 Stay sick cause I follow my gut They say I was pushing my luck I'ma push me a all black truck I'ma push me a all black truck I'ma push me a mad all black truck Stay sick cause I follow my gut They say I was pushing my luck Now I'ma push me a mad old black truck Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.
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