The Daily Zeitgeist - Papa’s Bombed, Peak CO2? 11.27.19
Episode Date: November 27, 2019In episode 525, Miles and special guest host Caitlin Durante are joined by comedian and Recently Added and Get Rich Nick co-host Nick Turner to discuss forgiving student debt helping the economy, carb...on dioxide being at an all-time high, the world giving up on climate change, a judge ruling that Trump is not a king, a Justin Timberlake, the corruption happening between the US and Turkey, a Justin Timberlake scandal, a terrible Papa John interview, the film Last Christmas, and more!FOOTNOTES: Forgiving Student Debt Would Boost Economy, Economists Say Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere reaches record high, researchers say The World Is Giving Up On Climate Change Judge rules former WH counsel McGahn must testify under subpoena Trump’s Turkey Corruption Is Way Worse Than You Realize Video: Justin Timberlake holds hands with his co-star during party Entire Internet Gathers to Roast Papa John WATCH: Nickelus F - Mids Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet.
Welcome to, what should you call this old show today?
Let's call it The Daily Zeitgeist.
And let's call this Season 110, Episode 3.
As you already know, this is a production of iHeartRadio
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it's Wednesday, November 27th
why did I say that sort of
with a beat of an accent?
November 27th, 2019
my name is Miles Gray,
a.k.a.
Making your way in the zeit today
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At the Eh Train
For that
What's the real name of the Cheers theme song?
Is it just Cheers theme?
I don't know
There's some weird
I remember in the past
Jack did an AK like that
And we actually looked at the lyrics
Of the original one
Very problematic lyrics in there.
Uh-oh.
It's like there's some weird transphobic shit in there, too.
When it's like,
And your husband wants to be a girl.
Yep.
It's like, what?
But that's really, it doesn't really go back to it.
Yeah, no, exactly.
It's just like bad news.
Yeah, you're like, what?
But I understand, I don't know if it's transphobic for that to be, you know,
It's called Everybody Knows that to be usually bad news.
That's where they are.
Look, they're taking big swings over there at Cheers.
Well, I guess the jig is up.
Okay, well then, obviously Jack is not here because I'm out here stuttering and mumbling.
And that means I have a very, very special guest co-host today.
Oh, and it's one of my favorite people.
Not because she is intelligent, funny.
We have very similar tastes in films, which we'll get to later in this show.
But also, I'm jealous of her name and how malleable it is with the anagrams.
Please welcome everybody's nine- dracula caitlin dorante
hi aka and this one's written in screenplay format so get ready oh interior second rate studio
caitlin sexily removes her jacket and reveals an even cooler jacket underneath she starts singing and i say anti-red lunatic tit canal ruined i'd not a clarinet acid
line truant reluctant india neat lucid train these are a few of my favorite names that wait that was
all anagrams those were all to the tune of favorite, and that is courtesy of, and I had to DM this person to figure out the pronunciation of their handle,
but I believe it is at Alskamaktus.
So sorry about that.
One of my favorite accounts.
Great follow.
Wait, do you want to give that one more try?
Wait, what is it?
I'm even confused of what you said.
Put some respect on that handle.
It looks, okay, it is.
Describe the words.
I'm going to describe what each letter looks like.
And then you're going to have to just figure it out.
It's a circle with a line on top.
It's A-U-S-G-E-M-A-C-H-T-E-S.
So it's like Ausgemachtes.
Ausgemachtes.
Yeah.
Ausgemachtes.
Thank you for that, AKA.
They said it was German.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, accurate.
Then I've completely embarrassed myself.
Well, I am thrilled now to introduce our guest today, Caitlin.
Someone who you even actually created an anagram for, but apparently we kept that under wraps.
Yeah, well, I'm waiting.
I'm waiting.
Okay, fantastic.
For someone who has a voice, a silken voice made of gold, and someone who always brings
that energy up, even without cold brew, please welcome Mr. Nick Turner.
Okay, to keep in line with the cheers theme
which podcast is number one the daily zeitgeist
what's that from fraser oh see i didn't watch fraser
what's that song about too what the fuck do we know is there something oh it's some Scramble eggs. They're calling again. I hear my name, I'm calling.
I'm calling.
What's that song about, too?
What the fuck?
Do we know?
Is there something going on? Oh, it's some standard.
Oh, really?
It's like, yeah.
And so I imagine no one knows what it means.
Yeah, like someone who's just having visions of tossed salads and scramby eggs.
I bet it's like a really kinky sex song about tossing people's salads.
I hear my name, I'm eatin' butt and some food.
It's so thrown off like, you know, that normal meal.
Like you go to a diner, like, give me what everyone gets.
Toss salad, scrambled eggs.
Scrambled eggs, yeah.
Salad and eggs.
Yeah, salad and eggs.
The old American diner.
What do you mean you never had salad and eggs?
Take that Yankee hat off, sir.
Well, anyway, thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for having me.
We're going to talk a little bit about what we're going to talk about today.
You know, just that whole wacky student loan debt forgiveness thing.
Some economists are chiming in, and it sounds like that might help boost the economy.
What?
I don't know.
We'll see.
We'll talk about about a little bit.
I'm not really sold on that.
Then we'll start bumming ourselves out because carbon dioxide levels are at an all time high,
coupled with some disturbing trend in our research into clean energy.
Also, Judge Katonji Brown Jackson basically told Donald Trump, you are not a king.
OK, so stop with the immunity nonsense that doesn't exist here.
Then we're going to talk a little bit about Turkey.
Gobble, gobble.
Actually, I mean, the country, because John Bolton said something very interesting at an event this week that maybe should have us asking more questions about also what the U.S.-Turkey relationship is.
I mean, obviously, we've been thinking that for a while, but this is very interesting.
what the US-Turkey relationship is.
I mean, obviously,
we've been thinking that for a while,
but this is very interesting.
Also, Caitlin and I will give,
I guess we'll go toe-to-toe,
even though we're in the same side of this talk,
about the wonderful romantic comedy,
holiday romantic comedy,
Last Christmas,
starring Emilia Clarke
and Henry Golding.
We have thoughts.
We have a lot of thoughts.
We certainly do, many thoughts.
And honestly,
this may be a movie so bad, you may have to see it.
I think it's kind of where we're ending up with this.
Also, we're going to get messy, talk some Justin Timberlake gossip,
and also whatever the fuck happened with Papa John on that TV ad
that everyone was talking about because it was not a good performance.
Ad? That was an ad?
I mean, did I say ad?
Oh, interview.
Interview, yes.
I mean, like, yes, we finally got one where he doesn't seem as drunk.
Or racist.
Although he kind of does that in this one.
But first.
It was an ad for his nude pizza chain, Daddy John.
Yeah, Daddy Yankees.
Try the nude rompe.
His nude pizza chain, Daddy fell asleep early.
Yeah, Daddy's nodding off in the couch again.
Nick,
what's something
from your search history
that's revealing
about who you are?
Okay,
you'll never guess.
I just looked this up.
How to tie shoes.
No,
my search history.
You'll never,
you'll never believe it.
But I looked it up
and earlier today,
I looked up
Devin Nunez District, which i often do because every time
you see a chiron where it says he's from california yeah i'm like where again yeah
where is that guy keep getting elected yeah and um do you know i just know the number of the
district it's the 22nd district.
Shut the fuck up.
Is that real?
I think so.
Does he wear that number a lot?
When you look at the chyrons, it'll say D or R and then CA 22 or whatever congressional district.
It's Fresno.
It's Fresno.
And where's that?
You might ask.
Yeah.
You know how when they redesign California design california when they try to
when when they were trying to cut it into three states yeah yeah yeah or six states but three
makes more sense um well that's you know they're cutting out the middle because that's that's farm
yeah it's farmland there's eight people there and they all love devon dinya yeah um well not all of
i mean his challengers i think to mount a pretty serious challenge.
Well, I think definitely because now he's involved.
Yeah.
Because now he's like maybe an accessory
to some kind of larger conspiracy.
Because now he's definitely going to jail.
I mean, we'll see.
No, no.
Well, people go to jail.
People, some do.
People definitely go to jail.
It's not, you're right.
Not politicians.
It's not usually the politicians.
Yeah.
It's usually like, you know, yeah like surviving well i mean manafort um cohen yeah flynn maybe a little bit
roger stone they're not elected officials no no yeah i mean it would be we'll see i mean he's
definitely the heat is turning up on him there's also like stories where like lev parnas is basically
saying like i can tell you that he was about to go to Ukraine. He went to Vienna to meet with the...
Yeah.
He was going to go, though, directly to Ukraine.
And apparently when he found out
that he would have to disclose that to Adam Schiff,
he was like, actually, never mind.
I don't need to go.
Actually, I don't want to go
because this dude is going to figure it out.
Also, Adam Schiff, I feel,
looks like a John Daly character.
Like John Daly, the actor.
Yeah.
Could do Adam Schiff.
Especially the character he's doing during the hearings where he doesn't talk and never blinks.
And he's very stiff and very wide-eyed.
Adam Stiff.
Ooh.
God.
See, this is low-hanging fruit.
Oh, can I tell you?
I was recently asked to do a fundraiser for a politician because my friend was like, hey,
I got this offer. I can't do it. If you want to do it. And I was like, great. Yeah, I'm sure. for a politician. Because my friend was like, hey, I got this offer.
I can't do it if you want to do it.
And I was like, great.
Yeah, I'm sure whatever this politician, I'll Google him later.
Right.
I can't imagine someone's asking me to do it.
And so then I talked to the booker and he's like, yeah, just send me your bio and your headshot.
And I'll send you all the information.
Lincoln bio.
Lincoln bio, yes.
I sent him a picture of Abraham Lincoln.
And then he's like, okay, so it's this guy,
and it was Schiff's, the guy running against Schiff,
the Republican.
A fundraiser for him.
Oh, man.
Did you take the job?
It was at the Griffin in Atwater.
And the show was called.
Wait, it was at the Griffin?
Yeah.
Where the fucking Proud Boys?
Yeah.
Yeah, baby.
Where they had to come out and make a public statement that they were not with the Proud
Boys, but also holding Republican fundraisers called Make Comedy Great Again.
Oh, no.
So you and Shane Gillis.
I immediately wrote back and I think my exact email was, oh, no. Oh, so you and Shane Gillis. I immediately wrote back, and I think my exact email was, oh, fuck.
I did not know that this was what this was.
I cannot do this.
Your reply all was, fuck, bruh.
Yeah.
And then he got back, and he was really nice.
He's like, oh, yeah, of course.
I probably assumed that.
You know, everyone has.
Said no.
Right.
He's like, do you know any YouTubers who might do this?
My God.
Yeah. I mean, also, I mean, you could have been a resistance here if you're like yeah i'll do it and then you go in
there and well i certainly have that thought yeah but that's like too much you don't want to also
but also unless you want to enter the culture wars it's literally no fun yeah just to go because
there wouldn't be anyone there enjoying it but But hey, hey, screw you dudes.
What?
Or just do like a bunch of terrible like hack material that like gets like appeals to their worst instincts.
Obviously, you're going to have to look like a terrible racist.
But they're going to be like, it was a bit guys.
I'm Nick Turner, the ally.
They're like, yeah, Nick Turner's number one.
He's getting smeared by the mainstream media.
And that's how you became red-pilled.
What else?
What else?
What's underrated, Nick?
What do you think is underrated there?
Underrated.
Okay.
This is, you know, I watch too much Netflix because I have a podcast. No such thing as too much Netflix.
Called Recently Added.
Right.
We watch everything and talk about it every week.
We watch everything and talk about it every week.
And underrated, I got to say, one of my favorite shows in a while is a Japanese sitcom called Scams.
And it's all about these guys, this group of guys that do phone scams on the elderly.
Oh, I'm not sure if I'm not on board anymore.
Which sounds not so fun.
But it's very good.
And they set it.
They really set it up.
It's like they're totally anti the elderly, which is funny because elderly have all the money.
And it was their laws that put in place, you know, the economic collapse, blah, blah, blah.
And that's why we have no money.
And so they're just going to get some of it back.
And so they run these elaborate scams, and they worked varying degrees, and there's so many funny characters.
And it's just really well-written and really fun and exciting.
It's just a great show that I was really, really happy with.
Scams.
Yeah.
In Japanese, skamu.
It is.
Okay.
Damn, I'm going to have to watch this. Yeah. Because I like it. Look, if there's one thing you know about me, I'm Japanese and a It is. Okay. Damn. I'm going to watch this.
Yeah.
Cause I like,
look,
there's one thing you know about me.
I'm Japanese and a scammer.
Oh,
there you go.
Also, uh,
no dubs.
Yeah.
Do the subtitles.
Yeah.
Well,
no,
I mean,
they don't have that.
Oh,
you're saying there's no,
there's no dubbing in it.
Yeah.
So it's just a pure,
good for all the weebs out there who want to be like,
I'm going to learn Japanese by watching all this stuff.
You might,
you might,
you might, but you might not.
Might want to take a lesson.
You're not going to.
Does not track with English whatsoever.
You might catch a word here or there like skamu.
It's like the Japanese way to say scam, but it sounds like scum.
So, you know, to each their own.
But shout out to everybody who wants to learn Japanese.
Wonderful language.
If you can figure it out.
Nick, what's overrated?
Here's the thing.
I think you hinted to the fact that you want to talk about this same subject that I have.
As in overrated?
From my overrated.
Great.
Later on in the show.
Let's do it.
Should we do it now or should we wait?
Whatever we can do.
Let's just hit it out of the park.
What's going on?
Hit me with it.
You guys watched a holiday movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Well, the difference is your holiday movie is a theatrical release with stars in it.
Yes.
Yes.
My beef is kind of with the lower rated.
You have beef with the trash holiday movies?
I do very much.
Wow, sir.
I mean, inundated.
Do you know where you are?
Again.
You're at the Griffin at a Republican Congress.
How dare you?
I kind of look at it like pornography, right?
Like the Hallmark type?
We make way too much of it.
Absolutely.
And we don't need literally any of it because we have them.
Yeah.
We have more trash holiday movies than you could ever watch in a million Decembers.
Can you cite some specific examples?
Oh, yeah. the Christmas Prince,
the holiday nutmeg,
the boy in the bubble.
The boy in the bubble boy.
The holiday chance.
A night before Christmas.
Freddy got fingered.
The Princess Switch.
The Princess Switch 2 is coming out.
Yeah, that's it.
I mean, they're terrible movies that are so formulaic.
One was The Night Before Christmas with Vanessa Hudgens.
Yes.
Truth be told, I was working on a script.
And I'm just going to look.
I don't know if it's going anywhere.
So I'm just going to say the title.
Hey, congrats.
It was called Single All the Way.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Hell yes.
And this is free IP for Marvista Productions, because y'all pitched it to y'all, and then you passed.
So fuck y'all.
Anyway.
Have you written one of these before?
Yeah, I've dabbled with Her Majesty, my partner, because we watch a lot of trash movies, and
we go, let me see.
How can we turn this up?
We could write a script, because it's so it's so
formulaic like you say it really is devoid of the thing we realize in writing one the second you try
and deviate like well see that's what them lame ass shits do yeah it starts becoming bad actually
because the genre itself needs to be so painful painfully like obvious and you telegraph everything
that it's like paint by
numbers yeah the second you try and be like man what if i painted outside it's like no it's in
the perfect shape of darth vader's face and you start painting over here now what the fuck is that
and we don't know what that's confusing um but yeah it's uh it's an interesting it's an interesting
i watched holiday in the wild a couple weeks ago that's's the one with Kristen Davis and Rob Lowe.
Oh, okay.
And it's a formulaic like rom-com thing,
but also hardcore into like elephant conservation.
All right.
They spend so much time on it,
and it is a real deviation of the form.
I'm sorry.
When we talk about why it's bad, a real a real deviation of the form so I'm sorry when we talk about
why it's bad
you're just saying
it's the sheer volume
and the lack of
original anything
well no
they're all bad
yeah yeah yeah
I know
I know
you know
but I'm saying
they're bad in a way
it's like get rid of junk food
it's like how dare you sir
but it's like
but it's not that
no one should enjoy them
yeah yeah
of course we should
I just don't think
we need to make
so many new ones
yeah
because I mean it's out there they're not getting any better yeah but it's we should. I just don't think we need to make so many new ones because
it's out there. They're not getting any better.
If you just watch all last
years that you didn't see,
I wouldn't be any different.
You saw all 30 Lifetimes.
I watched all 30 Netflixes.
You mean the 40 Days of Christmas
on Hallmark Channel event?
Yeah. I caught about 36.
For sure. I haven't done the Hallmark Channel event? Yeah. Yeah. I caught about 36 for sure.
See, I haven't done the Hallmark ones,
but I've watched a fair number of the Netflix ones.
I put my relationship in jeopardy to watch all them fucking movies.
I was like, respect the mark.
They don't do magic in their shows.
That's a specific thing about Hallmark ones.
They don't fuck with magic.
Really?
Yes, sir.
Wow, I do like that.
So tell me I don't know about this shit. I do like that a lot. Yeah, their whole thing is like, we don't fuck with magic really yes sir wow tell me i don't know about this shit i do
like that a lot yeah their their their whole thing is like we don't do magic yeah you want magic no
you go over to fucking one of these other places wow that's nice yeah they don't like they don't
like spooky or kooky i just watched noel on disney plus that's a disney plus original original
okay christmas with noel wells nope it is uh anna kendrick not about christmas oh and it's like is Disney Plus original Christmas movie. With Noelle Wells? Nope. It is Anna Kendrick.
Not about Christmas.
Oh.
And it's like, is she going to be Santa or not?
That's the question that drives the narrative.
Oh, right, right, right.
Is it Anna Kendrick?
Yeah.
No, it is not good.
Oh, I wasn't correcting you on your pronunciation.
Did you say Anna Kendrick?
Yeah, but I don't know which one it is.
I thought you knew something I didn't know until you immediately backed down.
I'm like, oh, y'all are homies like that?
I'm just stupid.
On your kindred?
Yeah, in a kindred.
Oh, that's how you say it.
Yeah, I think, you know, the thing for me is the reason I like it is because it's just familiar.
It's like basically watching a Yule log TV thing where it's just a burning log.
Like, it ain't going anywhere.
That's not going to catch me off guard.
But I like adding every year
maybe new filmmaking techniques
or higher resolution of the cameras
that are the only things that change.
But I get it. It is like,
there's a proliferation
of this shit.
Is there one good one?
They're all good.
I think, okay, Christmas Chronicles.
I think that was
the one from last year. With Kurt Russell?
Oh, I hated that so much in a special
way. Okay, the CGI
elves in that? Santa does not make fake news
jokes, I'll tell you that much.
Not my Santa.
Not my district.
No,
there aren't any good ones.
Yeah, I mean, a Christmas prince.
Well, because that's magic, too.
And that one is one of the things that I really despise the most, which is someone having to be like, you're crazy.
Santa is real.
Right, right, right.
And just like, I'm sorry, bud, but we live in the real world.
And then they do magic.
And then they're like, what the fuck?
No.
Like, shoot Santa?
They're like, bro, this fucking freaky junkie's flying.
Pow, pow.
Get him out the sky.
Yeah.
Anyway, sorry.
No, but a Christmas prince.
We obviously have very different opinions.
No, no.
A Christmas prince is terrible.
And it's just the right amount of terrible and misplaced ignorance in there, too.
Oh, yeah. of terrible and misplaced ignorance in there too, where it's like reducing all these cultures
to these weird Cold War idea of what Europe is.
But I don't know.
I think it's weird.
I also have a palate for absolute trash, which is why...
This is why I'm surprised by you too, because you and I both watch a lot of reality television.
That's true.
So how are you like, God, this holiday drivel is too much.
Sir.
Reality television is different.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It is so much better.
Movies are movies.
Yeah.
And reality television is supposed to be crap.
Okay.
Well, then what's the myth then?
Let's hard pivot to that.
A myth.
Okay.
That you can get a good cook on a turkey.
Like, oh, that you can...
So basically you always fuck up.
You get a recipe.
It's like, oh, this is the way.
This is the way.
You've been fucking it up for 40 years, asshole.
But there isn't because the bird is so uneven that they can't all cook together.
So you have to split up your turkey.
Yeah.
You have to cut the legs off your turkey, cut the breast.
Oh, yeah, the dark meat.
Die, wings.
Dark meat, do that slow and low.
Cut them all.
You got to cook them at different temperatures for different times, different techniques.
So you're saying break the fucker down.
You need 20 different ovens in your house.
Break the...
Yeah.
There's four.
You know, you get some levels in there.
You might need two go rounds. I saw a lot saw a lot it'll be a lot quicker sure the thing was trending was people going like
what's actually the thickest part of the turkey thigh like because a lot of the recipes are like
get it to the thickest part and people are like how far is that because i don't know what temperature
look just i just deep fry the fucker the thickest part it's the breast. But I love a deep fried turkey. Yeah. You know, here's the, I've had plenty.
Shout out to Rebecca Trent, Creek in the Cave in Long Island City, New York.
Okay.
I had a lot of Thanksgivings over there.
What exit on the LIE are we talking?
I don't.
Okay.
Just wanted to see.
Long Island City.
And so she fried a bunch of turkeys and I appreciate the fried,
you know,
whatever,
the moisture,
the taste,
but there's no skin on it.
Right.
Which I,
is I think by far the best thing about frying.
Oh,
the crisp,
crispy,
crispy skin.
Okay.
Otherwise,
you know,
it's just a lot of fun.
She had to build,
you know,
an oven every year, like outside. Get your propane tank. Yeah, it's so much work, but she's doing it just a lot of fun she had to build you know an oven every year like outside yeah
get your propane tank yeah it's so much work but she's doing it for a lot of people and it's like
fun time but i can't imagine doing that at your house for your own do you like turkey though
in general i do not okay so in a way but no one does contextually right i appreciate it
at thanksgiving i certainly enjoy you know the having it but if it were, um, an all day meat, I would
never eat it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like what are you having for dinner?
Turkey.
Great.
Dry chicken.
Is everything okay?
Look at the size of this leg.
Yeah.
It is certainly going to take me a while.
Yeah.
Last time I ate turkey was at a Ren Faire.
Oh, Ren Faire turkey leg?
Literally.
And I had my sludge attack hours later where I had my gallstones went crazy.
But now you're sludge free.
I'm sludge free.
You had your medical condition addressed.
Thank you.
Let's give a round of applause.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Snaps to our healthcare system.
And are you looking forward to your Thanksgiving meal?
No, I don't really observe thanksgiving okay i don't participate in um the celebration of colonialism thank you very much
that's my favorite part of thanksgiving by the way oh yeah i always forget about the food
yeah uh yeah when i get with my black family we're always like hey man
put him in different sucks for you, we're always like, hey, man. Put him in different. Sucks for you.
I don't know.
Fuck it.
Let's eat this turkey.
I don't like the food really served.
I'll eat it.
I tolerate it.
But I usually will eat takeout instead.
There you go.
I don't like to cook.
Okay.
I don't like gravy.
Wait, but will you gather with people?
I'll gather.
Or are you going to be like, I don't even want to fucking be thankful for your friendship.
Honestly, because it's tangentially connected to this.
Do you go to gatherings and ruin them by sitting in the corner?
I'm like, what colonialism?
I've ruined every inch of this fucking planet.
They're like, enjoy your turkey, fucking colonizer.
Can't we just argue about Trump like every other day?
It's like, nah, man.
You're the fucking destroyer dude
whoa
okay
I'll go with
what's your
take out thing
what do you do
for alternative
usually Thai
what's your dish
yeah
we're a couple
hungry guys over here
if you couldn't tell
I like a yellow curry
oh yeah
panang in the building
yeah
alright well let's
get into our stories
because first
I just want to bring up
very briefly.
Okay.
Well, I'll see you guys.
Yeah.
See you later, man.
Head on out.
I think your turkey's done.
Creek!
Slam!
What are you wearing?
Snowshoes?
Why can we still hear you walking?
The door closed.
Why are you talking?
Go, Nick.
So right now,
between Bernie Sanders
and Elizabeth Warren, they've been heavily touting a plan to forgive student debt because a lot of people, especially of the millennial generation and younger, are fucking being crushed by their student debt.
Thank you.
Oh, Elizabeth Warren says forgiving like she's more for forgiving debts up to 50K.
Bernie is in for total Jesus forgiveness.
Like fucking wipe the fucking slate clean.
Yeah.
On everything.
Pot to everything.
Yeah.
Just wipe it clean.
Just start over.
Just fucking pressure.
Watch this shit.
Let's fucking,
let's try and rewrite this thing.
His heart too.
Yeah.
Pressure washed it.
So economists have now started like,
I mean,
people have always,
obviously the,
the accepted wisdom is like, yeah, if you're not fucking being burdened with your debt, that allows you more mobility financially to invest in other things.
You know, start a family, fucking maybe buy a house, because that's like a thing that is pretty out of reach for most millennials.
So one expert, Lawrence Yun, said in the short term, it would be very positive for the housing market and says that student debt has people delaying homeownership by five to seven years, which seems like a long time.
I don't know.
It seems so abstract, though, because it's not like I had an idea of when my parents would have bought a house.
I'm like, where am I on track there?
Because most everyone I know is like, oh, you got a house?
Yeah.
Is it Chatsworth?
Cool.
I did read a stat recently that said it takes 42 times longer now to save up to afford a house than it did when our parents bought a house.
That makes sense.
42 times?
42 times.
Like it's literally nearly impossible.
Well, because also the millennial generation has never had an economic boom period where we were all employed and being able to reap the benefits of that.
Our economic boom was the stock market going up.
So older, rich people.
This is why I love scams so much. Yeah.
You're going to steal from the elderly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, 100%.
And hey, everyone, why don't you send in scam tips for this Thanksgiving?
We'll share some to scam your elderly relatives around the table.
You can leave that table with $100 in your pocket.
You can leave that table and put a down payment on a home, Broke Millennial.
But yeah, I mean, when you think about that and just the amount of our inability to actually
accumulate like real wealth.
Yeah, of course.
We're just looking at like, well, what apartment can we move to or whatever?
Like to accumulate some savings.
Right, yeah.
Oh boy.
So now when they even talking about the housing market,
it goes even beyond that
because when they look another bank,
looking at sort of this whole student debt forgiveness
has also found that the US GDP could be boosted on average by $86 billion to $108 billion per year,
which is not a little bit of money.
It's pretty significant.
Although the only time when they start going,
well, here's the thing, man.
Don't get too crazy and hopped up on this equitable society thing.
Because one of them seriously said it
could set a bad example where people may take on more debt since there could be an expectation that
it'll be forgiven yeah i'm sure okay really yeah let me go back to school five more times because
i know it'll be paid yeah it's the same thing like with health insurance like people might get like
over treated you know what i mean you never know what these people are going to do. And then who's losing?
The CEO of the insurance company.
Oh my God.
My boy over at Humana, man.
He could only rent, he could only charter a 30-foot yacht this Christmas.
Guess how many houses he has?
No, five.
Yeah.
He has no houses because let me tell you how many estates he has.
Houses are for poors.
Yeah, I think, again, there's like that argument.
The other one is sort of saying like, well, you know, if we forgive all that debt because the government actually owns a lot of that debt.
It's like, well, that's a lot of revenue that will be gone then.
But, you know, then, you know, it's going to be it could slow things down because we'll have to tax other people and, you know, tax the fucking rich.
I'm sorry, sir sir good night to you
and good day well i mean when you think about how many people truly are making like minimum payments
on their student debt and it's just like just picking away at it like so incrementally just
on interest not even on the principal yeah you haven't even it's just, it's just a terrible feedback loop. I haven't even scratched the surface of my, I'm like $70,000 in debt right now for the master's degree that I did get in screenwriting at Boston University.
Thank you very much.
I hate to bring it up.
I don't like to talk about it, but I do have a master's degree in screenwriting.
Now, I have so much day.
I have negative five homes. Negative five homes.
Which Christmas Prince movie did you love?
Oh, man.
All of them.
Even the treacle that hasn't come out yet.
Is that a thing?
There's a third one coming out, yes, this year.
Did you brand that treacle?
I believe I just did.
I honestly must say, that's fantastic work.
I don't know if I did or not.
In your master's program?
I'm just so smart and creative that I came up with it myself.
No, I don't know if that's a thing, but I did just say it as if it were a thing, and I don't think it is.
You know, I actually coined the phrase three boot, where it's a second reboot.
No, you did not.
I 100%.
Okay, where are the receipts?
Where can I find this?
Is it a podcast episode?
You can find it in my Comedy Central web series,
You're Killing Me.
We do an episode called Three Boot.
About a second, wait.
About all of the franchises that have been three booted.
Holy shit.
Because I play a guy who was in a coma.
When I come out, I'm like, what's this?
Is that a reboot?
No, it's actually three boot.
It's a three boot.
Anyway, it's very funny. But but um i everyone let the people decide but i i i will fight anyone who says
that they invented three boot fantastic i looked it up it didn't really it didn't exist great yeah
uh then we have that anyway sorry back to you sorry i got trequels. Sorry I got so angry. It's okay. Just so you know, he came up with Terebroot, okay?
You can have it.
On something no one was contesting.
End of fucking story.
Or had ever heard of.
Yeah.
Trequel is mine, though.
Yeah, I love trequel.
Let's copyright that right now.
Yes, you got it.
Anna, please, thank you so much.
Write it in a letter and mail it to yourself.
That's how you copyright something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a wacky uncle told me.
Fuck the Library of Congress.
We don't need that bullshit.
It's in the mail. It's copywritten, dude. Copywritten, so don't copy me. Okay, we're going to take a quick, yeah. Fuck the Library of Congress. We don't need that bullshit. It's in the mail.
It's copywritten, dude.
Copywritten, so don't copy me.
Okay, we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back.
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Carbon dioxide levels are at an all-time high.
Uh-oh.
Let's just get right into it.
Let's do it.
I know everybody is about to enjoy their holidays and things like that, but let's not lose sight.
Unless you're me.
Yes.
Ebenezer Grinch.
Yeah, or no, Ebenezer Woke.
Oh, okay.
Ebbo Woker.
No, let's just leave it there.
You know, there have been a few reports coming out.
You know, there's there been a few reports coming out, one from the United Nations, this other one from the World Meteorological Organization, that we are at peak carbon in our atmosphere.
Hell yeah, we are.
I it's like, oh, I don't know.
Global warming is it's just weird. It's this thing that is by far the most pressing issue that is facing people because it doesn't matter where the what you believe or by or where you live.
Like that shit is coming for everybody in some way.
And we it's like I.
You keep reading things like this and it's like this weird thing where on one side, I feel like it acts on people to start like really adopting these nihilistic attitudes towards it where it's like we're fucked right uh and another one where you're like no fuck we have to fucking do something
but at the same time what are the people at the levers doing because it's going to be too
disruptive to certain businesses and things like that. It's becoming, I feel like I
just want to renew people's sense of dread about this because it's very easy to like constantly
read a headline. It's like, oh yeah, it's the worst it's ever been. And then it's like, Justin
Timberlake's cheating on Jessica Biel. But this is by far very, very, very alarming. When you look at it, just sort of the global average of CO2 in 2017 in the atmosphere was 405 parts per million.
And by May 2019, the daily concentration had gone to 415 parts per million.
It's not like a little bit here and there.
Yeah, it's significant.
It's on the rise.
And the levels in 2018, at least, were an increase of 140% over what it was pre-industrial
revolution.
Oh, great.
140%.
We can...
Well, what about this?
Uh-huh.
I heard a lot from your side.
Uh-huh.
I love it.
But what about this side?
Okay.
Obama.
Uh-huh.
You know, I mean... Case closed. side. Uh-huh. I love it. But what about this side? Okay. Obama. Uh-huh. You know, I mean.
Case closed.
Case closed.
How long did it take you to get here from the Griffin?
Think in its own episode?
Then we also look at also nitrous oxide has also increased as well as methane.
And a lot of these are born out of human activity.
I mean, yeah, this is this.
Basically, when you look at all this research, it is not it's not going down at all.
No matter what we do.
Right.
It's still increasing.
Maybe sometimes it increases in smaller increments, but we are not doing enough clearly.
And when you have a president like Trump who's saying like.
The day he's reelected, it's officially he's just putting the kibosh on the paris uh
climate accords dude this is just this is where you realize what's at stake i just want to add
one other really disturbing chart i read um that was showing that the clean energy investment has
begun to decline like that we're act like i don't know maybe people are just fucking fed up yeah and
they're like i don't know it seems like just fucking fed up yeah and they're like i
don't know it seems like everyone just gave up in 2019 we're like well there's no hope yeah and
if you just look at this investment investment the fall off between 20 it's almost like they
just went fuck it and i don't know if that has to do with trump's like in sort of america's sort
of leadership in this and how he's completely abdicating his duties and responsibilities
well it has to be because he's uh they've diverted funds that were going to that like government funds
yeah for the u.s obviously that chunk is still smaller but it's broken up to like worldwide i
mean obviously in um like asia pacific parts they are still also investing too because when you look
at places like indonesia and they're like we're gonna have to move our fucking capital because this shit's sinking like those i think that's much clearer to them that something has
to be done but it still seems a bit abstract or i don't know if it's abstract to the the leaders
uh but clearly uh i don't know i think when you have an older generation who's like honestly i'm
not gonna experience when it gets that bad right i'll be dead by then yeah and we're talking not
even just like you know everyone's talking about like two degrees
Celsius, like was sort of the number people were saying, like, we really don't want to
go past that.
Like, we're past that.
Like, we're now more looking at like, are we going to be like between four degrees and
six degrees increase?
Because that is a hellscape.
Can you make this sexier, though?
Yeah.
Why don't you play some music, Dan?
No, just for me. Okay, so you're just doing
the same thing but naked? Yeah,
I don't know. I've been doing push-ups. I thought it would do
something. But yeah.
We can never change anything
as humans. It has to be a law.
It has to be a law, but I think also
we do need to really
begin to sort of coalesce around these movements that are getting gaining some traction.
But yeah, ultimately, right.
Unless we're like literally being like, all right, we're dragging all these Congress people out of their houses and like forcing them to vote.
It's going to have to come from other ways.
And I think, you know, I think the first thing you can do just to feel slightly more empowered is to sort of be aware of your how you are doing things, not to do the whole thing of like the industry putting the responsibility on the consumer.
Right.
But there are ways just to sort of move a bit more efficiently.
I mean, yeah, there's micro and macro solutions here where like on an individual level, you know, maybe if you cut out some of your like meat consumption, you know, you maybe try to walk more rather than bicycle rather than driving
people take public transit you know all that kind of stuff and then obviously like on the macro
level there need to be like laws and force that like hold you know whatever entities that are
actually like you know yeah gushing out all this all these toxins into the air should be held
accountable oh i mean
yeah the companies that are like the biggest polluters like they need to be dragged to the
fucking right yeah just being like sorry guys like you fucking knew just so you could make money
welcome to jail uh but we'll see i mean i like the idea that until he said welcome to jail they
didn't know sure where they were like what's going Hey, really good for you guys to be here.
Exxon Mobil, love you.
Oh, Shell, World Dutch Shell, thanks for being here.
Here's the deal.
Welcome to jail.
Oh, no!
I mean, honestly, I feel like you could just trick
a bunch of fossil fuel executives,
like the old trick with a bunch of money under a box
with a stick and a rope.
And like, yeah, right here, right here, right here.
Anyway, let's move on to
happier news uh where judge katanji brown jackson has made her ruling uh over trump you know there
was that case moving through the courts involving don mcgann who's saying like do i have to like
white house counsel yeah do i have to like obey a subpoena like to go testify in congress like do i
have to like is that like real like are there really checks and balances? I don't know. Can we sue our way out of this and delay?
Well, the time has come. And I just, you know, the DOJ who was representing Trump's interest,
basically, in this case was using the lamest arguments, like ones that we knew from the
beginning was like, this is never going to work. It's purely a delaying tactic to keep people from
going to the Hill.
But they were almost saying like, well, in the past, you know, like other White House employees and like the executive have cooperated with Congress and during these investigations, but like
they did it because like they were just like chill about it. It's not like they had to do it. So I
don't know if there's like really a mechanism in place that means they have to do it. Maybe like
they're just sort of like understanding the constitution but there's nothing in like the
argument was completely bullshit and basically saying trump is god king so therefore if he says
sir you do not have to go then that that was like their argument all like blanket executive uh
privilege uh and then in her ruling she wrote this is just one line that's great stated simply the primary takeaway from the past 250 years of recorded american history is that presidents are
not kings bow done get the fuck on out of here i don't know what the fuck you thought this was
now before you go you know shouting in the streets hallelujah uh this is merely just one step they
immediately are going to appeal, obviously.
They're going to keep doing this because this is all about delaying anyone's testimony,
probably all the way to the Supreme Court.
We don't need it.
Yeah.
We don't need what?
We don't need the testimony.
Yeah.
I mean, some people, you'd like it just to wake up some other idiots.
But yeah, at this point-
No one's getting woken up.
Yeah.
It's fully proven.
Everyone's digging in their heels.
It's done.
It happened. It's a crime. It's out there. There's no more. No one's getting woken up. Yeah, it's fully proven. Everyone's digging in their heels. It's done. It happened.
It's a crime.
It's out there.
There's no more.
You don't need anything.
Yeah, I think the only benefit that could happen for the Republicans is if like John Roberts, the Chief Justice, is like, I'll hear this case later. And it happens to be after the hearings.
So they don't have to actually go along with these impeachment hearings.
That would maybe be a win for the Republicans.
But at this point, they've completely lost the fact war.
No.
And now it's just all about opinions.
The one thing, though, is that it may help other employees of the White House or other
people who've been working for the government who were thinking about disobeying or not
going or following the subpoena to be like, OK, so I don't actually have any kind of legal
argument here.
Like, so maybe I'll do it if I want to talk. I can just point the – like this could give them cover saying this judge ruled that this ain't happening.
And even if they appeal it, the accepted knowledge around it is that it ain't going anywhere even if you get to the Supreme Court.
Most likely, but who knows?
He's got two puppets in there.
What else?
Oh, yeah.
Turkey. the country. John Bolton was at an event for Morgan Stanley.
Really great, really great organization. And made this really interesting statement. He basically
said that he, I don't know, he's like, he believes that, quote, there is a personal or business
relationship dictating Trump's position on Turkey.
Just said that out loud.
I think it was obvious that something was going on based on how I think a lot of times you're like, oh, he loves strong men.
And the other thing could be like, do these strong men all have something on him or whatever?
They have an ability to like pick at him.
And when you look at like sort of the policies that have been going on with Trump and him between him and Erdogan, you can tell like there's some something's weird going on.
Like, you know, like two years ago, Erdogan came to D.C. and his goons like just beat up a bunch of protesters.
I think about that every week.
Yeah. And he was like and Trump just didn't say anything.
That video is monstrous.
It's wild.
They're straight up.
One of the craziest things I've ever seen.
Just clubbing.
Beating the hell out of people.
Out of protesters.
Out of protesters in the middle of DC.
Yeah.
On our streets.
On our streets.
They're like, okay.
And that shows you.
And our president sucks his fucking dick.
Wow.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Sorry.
I blacked out.
No.
I know you're back.
Okay.
But it's true.
He sucked his dick.
It was just one of those things where he purely had nothing to say. he was just like yeah i'm not gonna say anything i don't want to
make it hot um and a lot of people have been saying like okay what's going on there there's
one thing that when you look at sort of how this relationship is working between the two countries
unlike ukraine that had like the you know rudy giuliani r, Sondland, Volker crew working on stuff. This one is literally just a bunch of son-in-laws working together.
So one is Erdogan's son-in-law, who's been working on diplomacy with Jared Kushner,
Trump's son-in-law, and Mehmet Ali Yelizindag, I may have completely botched his name,
who's the son-in-law of Trump's business partner in Turkey, this guy
Aydin Dolgan. So there's like, everybody's got their son-in-laws working together to sort of
work on all these different, you know, relations between the U.S. and Turkey. Now, I think there
are so many scandals going on in Ukraine, obviously has the most momentum. But when you actually
really look at sort of what's going on with Turkey, like think
about Mike Flynn.
He was in trouble for being an unregistered agent, like acting on behalf of Turkey's
interests and was even like vocally before being like, oh, I don't think we need to
arm the Kurds on the border in Syria.
Like, I'm actually against that.
And you're like, I'm sorry, what?
Where did that take come from?
Oh, right.
Turkey.
And was even sort of like, yeah, I think we need to like sort out this sort of border dispute with
Turkey and Syria. Again, he was he was verbalizing that for Turkish interests. Then you start
looking. Trump has substantial business interests in Turkey. There's like a tower there, like the
Trump Tower that's licensed. And Erdogan has basically even like shown that he can fuck this up by saying like,
maybe we need to remove the name from this building as president of Turkey.
Like I can also make decisions like that.
And so you see there's a little bit of back and forth push pull between those two.
You look at how many times the president has sided with Turkey,
like completely confusing and confounding like the expert opinions on like what is actually going
on or what needs to be done for the in terms of the US's interests. And then again, you look at
these connections between all these son in laws doing their sort of backdoor diplomacy. It starts
to get really odd. And then again, Rudy Giuliani shows up also even in Turkey because he has a financial interest in Turkey because he's
representing this guy Reza Zarrab, who is a Turkish Iranian business person who is in trouble for
helping basically evade sanctions. And I think the U.S. is sort of saying like, hey, Rudy will
help you out. There's a way we can make this all work and we can all win. There's just a lot of darkness.
And with just the amount of actually the lack of oversight when you add it all up, you're like you can only imagine what kind of things that are going on, what transcripts even sound like between those two leaders.
And what other people might have, you know, other dirt or ideas
or have seen things that they're like, this is completely untoward.
So something to think about this Thanksgiving.
I have been watching 90 Day Fiance.
Marcel from Turkey.
The beekeeper, yes.
Yes.
That's why I'm mad at Turkey at the moment.
He's a terrible, terrible partner.
Well, I'm only to the point where he had a pizza in America for the first time.
And he said, this is bad.
In Turkey, our pizza is good.
Yeah.
But here, this is bad.
Also, completely different dishes.
I can imagine.
You would never compare a Lama June to a fucking Domino's pizza.
Yeah.
But look, I can go all day, baby.
And I do on my new podcast, 420 Day Fiance.
Look for it sometime in the next few years.
It's actually out now.
Cha-ching!
Wow.
Oh, there it is.
Okay.
And one more thing I do want to say about Rudy Giuliani.
He is under deep scrutiny by the feds.
They've been subpoenaing documents like relating to his business relationships through his company or like other people like Lev Parnas.
You know, he got like five hundred dollars from what was it called?
Fraud secure. Some weird business where like Rudy was like the face of it, but it was not an actual business.
And some of the crimes they're investigating buckle up are big breath obstruction of justice, money laundering, conspiracy to defraud the United States, making false statements to the federal government, serving as an agent of a foreign government without registering with the Justice Department, donating funds from foreign nationals, making contributions in the name of another person or allowing someone else to use one's name to make a contribution, along with mail fraud and wire fraud.
So he might be sweating a little bit.
So, you know, I, you you know my heart goes out to him
it really does really does and i think when the way he's been operating just like out in the open
fraud guarantee fraud guarantee yeah like what the fuck is that even incredible yeah yeah i think
because the one of the reasons they did it was to boost the seo. So that would come up instead of this guy's other fraud charges.
So if you search this guy's name and fraud, it would basically be to be like, oh, yeah, don't worry about his actual fraud crimes.
He did.
It's this business called Fraud Guarantee.
It's so just so stupid and so genius at the exact same time.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a very old person way of thinking.
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Let's talk briefly about Justin Timberlake.
Because old Ramenhead is filming a movie in New Orleans and was spotted cozying up to his co-star,
Alicia Wainwright, at a bar.
Now, Caitlin, when you came in, I showed you the video.
Yeah.
Because, look, these are the photos, Nick.
This is what we're seeing.
There was some little hand-holding going on, and that's not Jessica Biel.
And this is another one, little touch and go here.
That's a full-on hand-in-hand touching.
Yep.
I've seen the evidence. Yep. I've seen the evidence.
Yep.
You've seen the evidence.
Do you need any more or have you come to a decision?
No, I read about it.
Okay. I hadn't seen the pictures.
Ah.
But I've come to a decision.
Okay.
Now, what I will say is both parties deny anything is going on, which is fine.
But we all know Justin Timberlake is known to leave a woman in the lurch when he gets
in hot water.
Janet Jackson.
So I'm curious to know what happens here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But anyway, I will say this.
We obviously don't have evidence that they're having an affair.
Definitely don't have that.
What we do have evidence of is that he definitely has weird, sad, drunk, with flirty eyes vibe.
Okay.
So here's my opinion. Okay.
Harmless.
Harmless. You never
held a friend's hand?
That was gonna be my general
like, you know, affection,
human contact, it's important. It doesn't
necessarily have to be sexual. It could just be like a
platonic, friendly gesture.
They're working on a movie together.
And they have a very close relationship at the moment.
And there's lots of people around.
He's getting photographed every minute of his life.
This is what they got.
Did you see the video though?
You watched the video?
No.
When you watch the video,
you can tell,
to me it seems like it could be innocent,
like more just like you're drunk
and kind of being affectionate with someone, maybe, maybe to the chagrin of your partner.
But there are times when he did this, he sips his drink in, you know, when you've seen somebody
so drunk, they drink their drink like this.
And what I'm doing for those of you, cause this is a podcast.
When you have your head tilted down the whole time.
Like you're asleep, but you're still trying to drink.
He was doing that and like, look, I'm not here to accuse a man of anything.
But what I would say is like, not a good look.
I think he's really good at being a celebrity.
I think he's been able to keep this together for 25 years.
And I don't think this was the slip up that, you know, we caught him.
I just don't think there's anything here.
At one stage, he grabbed her hand
and rested it on his knee.
She then gently started stroking his leg.
Then he clutched her hand with both of his
and was playing with her hands.
Maybe they were rehearsing a scene for the next scene.
What are you, his PR person?
They play love interests of each other.
Yeah, they're just getting their chemistry going.
Justified is one of the greatest albums,
so he's justified.
He probably took her hand, he caressed it,
he put it on his knee and looked deep into her eyes
and said, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
but I am in love with the most beautiful woman in the world.
With Jessica Biel.
Now please, get your hands off of me, you brute.
Or maybe it's Future Sex Love Sounds, his other great album.
Oh, yeah.
What's your favorite Justin Timberlake album?
I think that one.
I'm an old head, so Justified is one of my favorites.
I see.
I'm a no strings attached guy.
Oh, and Sync, are we?
Yeah, that's right.
Wait, do you like Justin Timberlake? Yeah, that's right. Wait, do you
like Justin Timberlake? Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't you?
He's in Trolls for crying
out loud. He's incredible. He's in Trolls
as himself, or he's the voice of a troll? No, he's one of the
voices of the troll. I haven't seen any Trolls movies,
but... Oh, I haven't either.
Yeah, that's for Trolls, isn't it?
It's a great song. Yeah. He's in charge
of the music for the second
movie.
Okay.
Hold on.
You're a Justin Timberlake fan, aren't you?
Of course.
I mean, what?
No, like a fan, though.
You're not like casual with it.
Look, I read.
I just, you know.
Wait, hold on.
What is that at the beginning of an explanation?
That's why I know about the troll thing.
I'm literate, too.
I'm literate as well.
I can read Instagram captions
Yeah yeah yeah
He's very likable he's got curly hair
I like that
He's got a lot of hits
I like that
You should dye your hair like Justin's
You know I did that
You did for a bit?
Well yeah in college I definitely did that
Like to be like Justin Timberlake?
No
I thought you were going to be like I'm Like to be like Justin Timberlake? No. Or just be like, I'm going to dye my hair. Yeah, you dye your hair.
I thought you were going to be like, I'm going to be Ramen Head Justin.
No.
With like tinted rose glasses.
No.
Also, I think I'm probably more into Backstreet Boys.
I mean, I was too.
Yeah.
Well, you know, maybe it was just like a year older.
Okay.
So.
Yeah.
To me.
Who's your favorite Backstreet boy say it on three one two three
okay you said brian i said howie oh you said brian it's the first one i could think of
kevin oh yeah they're all in there yeah kevin brian's the right answer yeah i'm sorry what
were you saying before we interrupted you with our love of Backstreet Boys? Oh, geez, a woman's talking here. Sorry, Mrs. Luttrell.
I think Backstreet Boys, like the sum of the parts is, like as a whole, they are better than NSYNC.
But NSYNC has some better individual, like the-
More better solo stuff from NSYNC.
But only just that one guy with Justin Turpilli.
You wonder how Chris Kirkpatrick
got in that group
when you look at
him and you think
well clearly he's
he's insanely old
and odd-looking
and he had weird
cyber dreads but
if you if you
you know I I
watched that that
documentary the
the the one about
the guy the the manager.
Oh, Lou Perlman?
Lou Perlman, yeah.
You see some old footage, pictures of Chris Kirkpatrick.
Damn, that dude was cute.
Was he cute?
He was so cute when he got hired, you know?
You see, it's not a question anymore,
like why'd they put that guy in the group?
Well, they didn't put that guy in the group.
They put a cute 17-year-old in the group in the group yeah wait so what did he look like they're
like hey man you need to grow these weird fucking predator raids kind of and i mean predator the
the character yeah not a predator yeah yeah you need to wear these weird dreadlocks these uh
uh they made him look like a ski goggles yeah didn't he look like the i guess that was his
that was his thing his That was his thing.
His angle.
Well, I mean, we've all seen Josie and the Pussycats, right?
There's that montage in that movie when they get famous
or they get signed to a record deal
and they have to give them all makeovers.
And they do that to stars.
They give them this whole image.
So yeah, they just made him look like a stupid idiot, I guess.
They're like, you're into hacky-sacking with glow sticks in The Matrix.
How many Josie and the Pussycats
has there been? Are we at three yet?
Movies? No, just the one with Rachel Lee Cook.
So there needs to be a sequel and a treacle.
I like the idea that the person involved in
giving Chris Kirkpatrick a look
only worked in entertainment for one day.
They came in and they did him and they're like,
ah, no, you're out of here.
But it's too late with him because we did the photo shoot.
It is what it is. Sorry, dressed him like that.
That's his brand.
Let's move on really quickly to Papa John
also who made the terrible
decision to be filmed
just in general. I think he should
never be filmed. Yeah, real Orson Welles
moment. Every photo of him
is him sweaty.
Look, I get it. Maybe he has a problem, but I think it's more him being trizashed all the time.
Yeah.
And this whole thing, he goes on, first of all, to defend himself and what happened with Papa John's.
You'll see this claim of his diet that's fantastic. Fantastic. But also, in the true mark of a guilty person who's fucked up, claims he was set up and that his enemies used, quote,
the black community and race to steal the company, end quote.
Goodbye.
Let's just hear this Twitter clip that everyone put together
that's like a greatest hits of some of the things he said.
I've had over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days.
Living currently in Mark Shapiro should be in jail.
He has no pizza experience.
He's never been in the pizza category.
I would just say, stay tuned.
The day of reckoning will come.
The record will be straight.
Why not set the record straight down?
I mean, what is it about the record that's not straight?
Stay tuned.
Yeah, buddy.
Hey, you know, the day of reckoning will come.
Stay tuned.
Oh, so should we come back when there's something to talk to you about?
No, keep the cameras rolling.
The day of reckoning.
There it is.
Sorry, do you want to do a second take on that, bud?
No.
One take, John, what to call me.
He was, I don't know,
what the fuck. Pizza in the morning, pizza
in the evening, pizza at summertime.
Pizza in the morning, pizza for 30
days.
When you're drunk as fuck,
you might be Papa John.
That's like 1.3 pizzas a day.
Thank you for breaking down the math on that. You're welcome.
That's a lot of pizza.
What's the flex
to say he's had that many pizzas
yeah
I think he was saying maybe
that he's had
I don't know what the full
he's on quality control now
he's like ordering pizzas from Papa John's
I think
and he's like just like testing the quality
and he said something to the effect of like
it's not the same pizza
it used to be whenever he was
in charge. Okay, here's my first problem
with this. You're working at Papa John's,
right? An order comes in.
The same order you get every day.
It's like, oh, here we go. Oh, it's at John's
house. You know where his house is.
It's half the size of the state.
You know, and he's probably angry. He's like,
you know who it is? It's Papa.
I'm ordering the usual.
Oh, son.
I would like my pizzas today.
Okay, I'm a woman.
Okay, well, get my order, son.
It's Papa.
Like, yeah.
You think that the workers are like, man, fuck this guy.
Of course his pizzas taste bad.
They're fucking shit.
Like throwing the cheese in one corner of the pie.
I'm like, yeah, send it.
I have the quote.
I've had over 40 pizzas.
Oh, okay, 40.
Wow, it could be.
What's over 40?
A thousand for 40 days and 40 nights.
Fucking Noah's Ark of pizzas.
So I've had over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days,
and it's not the same pizza.
It's not the same product it just doesn't
taste as good oh wait but this is something that schnatter said i've had over 36 to 40 feral pizzas
but no but that's papa john is john schnatter oh okay well i'm an idiot as we've already well no
i'm glad that you actually don't know his name you don't need to put that information in your
brain like a schnatter yeah i thought he'd have like i don't know more put that information in your brain. He doesn't seem like a schnatter. Yeah, I thought he'd have like, I don't know,
more of an Italian sounding name or something.
You'd hope that our pizza luminaries.
Our Papa Pizza.
Papa John's Authentico.
Wait, he's not from Napoli?
He's not Napoleon?
Oh my God.
What the fuck?
Oh.
I mean, maybe that's reductive of me.
I don't know, but.
Well, you'd hope, right? As someone whose last name is Durante, and I'm making pizza.
I'm the mama pizza.
Yeah, uh-oh.
Mama Caitlyn.
Yeah.
Mama Caitys.
Soon.
Mama Kate Kate's sludge pies.
You got to love them.
Okay, let's move on.
Let's cut that out.
Why?
We're keeping all this.
We're keeping all the terrible stuff in.
We're going to be canceled by the end of this episode.
Hell yeah.
That wouldn't be my first time.
Okay, so let's get to brass tacks here.
The romantic comedy film Last Christmas.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
I've seen it, and I've been looking for other people who have seen it.
The first thing people would say back to me when I say,
have you seen Last Christmas? They would say, why me when I say, have you seen Last Christmas?
They would say, why the fuck would I go pay to see Last Christmas?
And I'm like, that's fair.
That's completely fair.
I did it as a form of self-care.
It was expensive, but worth it.
Have you seen the movie Last Christmas?
I haven't.
Oh, no.
You simply must.
Have you been to Tuscany?
I have.
Well, fantastic then, my good man.
Yeah, so the film roughly,
how would you describe,
what's the log line of this film?
Well, bringing my expertise
into screenwriting into this.
Again, I do have a master's degree.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
The log line, I suppose,
is a kind of rough around
the edges young woman uh meets a man so rough amelia clark says it all with her face her edges
are fucked and he inspires her to um turn things around for herself and it's all
happening around Christmas time she also
works in a Christmas themed
store
and she
has a family
and those are some of the
subplots right
I it's a great film
with Michelle Yeoh
and Henry Golding.
Yes.
Back together again.
Together again.
Because we didn't get enough in Crazy Rich Asians.
Yep.
They got them together.
And what was her name?
Mrs. Claus or Santa.
Her name is, she's this woman named Santa who runs a Christmas shop.
The gist of it is.
Santa is her name-o.
That's the name she gives us we find out that she
that amelia clark's character thinks that's her real name but it's not she was like and then she's
like t he i gave that name to myself she's like i'm a capitalist she's like what was her what was
her other thing she's like when i ran this other business my name was blah blah like a candy shop
my name was candy or some shit so this whole film is like this woman walking around.
She meets Henry Golding.
He's like, hey, look up.
You never see what you see.
The bottom line is, and this is spoiler alert.
If you really want to see Last Christmas and you really don't want to know what the magical twist is,
just end the episode now because we're about to go the fuck off on this thing.
And I know you do not like magical endings.
I do like magical.
I'm not look i'm not
the hallmark channel that's their ethos i can't figure you out yeah no one can i just can't do it
that's see that's why i do that so they can't get any psychographic data on me um he's so
inconsistent that he basically we find out her she has her health hasn't been good we found out
she has a heart transplant it turns out hen Henry Golding is a fucking hallucination because she was the recipient of his heart when he was hit by a bus or something on a bike.
Yes.
And that's why she's been seeing him.
Because his romantic, loving, giving heart exists in her now.
So it is now changing her whole personality or something to make her a more,
you know,
I mean the message of the movie,
I'm sure it's nice.
I think it's weird.
Narratively.
It's,
it's written by Emma Thompson.
Yeah.
Who's a great actress.
Great,
great,
great comedic performer,
in my opinion,
even though her problematic Yugoslavian character is a little,
I don't know if you gotta be doing these accents,
uh, was actually, I think it was a film that should have come out 15 to 20 years ago.
Like the tone of it.
On the Hallmark Channel.
Yeah.
It's written by Emma Thompson.
And even the depictions of like the homeless are very like they're one dimensional.
Yeah.
Just they're sort of there for texture.
No, like there was a part where they
have like a like a christmas pageant but none of the people who go to the shelter who are like
unhoused they don't like give them new clothes for the pageant they're like hey guy who has like
stained clothing just just wear this hat so we still remember that your character is someone
who is like in dire straits right uh and And had this like, there was no humanity or empathy towards those people.
It was more just there
to like underline
how like chill
Emilia Clarke had become.
Right.
And it's not done
in like a evil way.
It's just like a tone deaf way
where it's like,
oh, this is how we used
to make movies
or this is how we used to
quote unquote portray
things like this.
Yeah.
There's some,
there's some Brexit
undertones in there.
Yeah, yeah.
That pro?
No. Anti. Anti for yeah. That pro? No.
Anti.
Anti, for sure.
I'm against it, but my heart says let's leave.
Yeah.
Well, no, there's a moment where she's watching TV.
It's completely shoehorned in.
Emma Thompson is just watching TV, and there's Brexit protests.
And she's like, oh, God, this country.
I don't know.
They don't want me here.
Yeah.
And that's like what?
It's so wedged in.
It's like not really a part of the story at all.
Like the elephant conservation.
It's like she added this dimension because she wrote the script 15 years ago and was like, oh, I can make it relevant.
And it was all railing against Margaret Thatcher.
Yeah, exactly.
100%.
I've got to update this.
The Iron Lady.
But one thing I will say, and this is where we diverged a bit. 100% the Iron Lady the um
but one thing I will say
and this is where
we diverged a bit
it was nice to see
Emilia Clarke
in a rom-com
because I think
for her
she's one of the few
actors on
Game of Thrones
who
like
their character
was so specific
you only saw
like Khaleesi
Daenerys
never really smiling
or laughing
always very serious.
Yeah.
And because of that, when you see her smile and act playful, you're like, oh, okay, that's right.
Oh, man.
She overdoes it.
Oh.
Like, I think it was like, she's overacting every scene she's in.
She's like dials it up to an 11 when it should be like a two.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
That's how I feel.
Oh, interesting.
I guess for me me it wasn't
even the performance i was just more like she has a really like infectious smile like it didn't feel
like bullshit but yeah i guess but if i'm really going to be like looking at the performance
i think really the bar solo is like it didn't seem like daenerys to me A plus she has range
my bar is extremely low
Daenerys kind of has one mood too
one mood of
I kill on average
12,000 people a day
and this one to see her being like
someone eating fish and chips
in a rush
before she has to go home from her elf gig
oh she must eat so much fish and chips in a rush before she has to go home from her elf gig.
Oh, she must eat so much fish and chips.
Oh, yeah.
She got a real FNC body. There was so much.
There were like those moments, too, when you realize Henry Golding's like a ghost.
And then like they do all those moments where seemingly they were together, but they're
not.
Oh, so spoiler alert coming up right now for the Joker.
Okay, if you don't want Joker spoilers, just go to the end.
What if I don't want Joker spoilers?
Then put your head down and play heads or something.
You know what?
Sometimes you're just in the industry and you don't get to enjoy things.
Enjoy things, yeah.
Okay, that's fine.
You got to stay up to date, Nick.
That's our cross to bear.
Okay.
Being so deep in the industry.
So here it is.
Here's the Joker spoiler.
The twist in Last Christmas is the same exact twist in The Joker.
Because there's a moment in that movie where he thinks he has a girlfriend.
And it turns out he was just imagining it the whole time.
And it does the same exact montage of like.
All the moments.
It's like he was.
He thought he was with this woman.
Just kidding.
He was alone every time.
But that's like, I think, typical whenever you feel like, it was a ghost.
I think it's like an obligatory sequence you have to do to be like, see, all those other parts, it was actually a ghost.
And she was just changing in front of people on the street.
True.
Anyway, but overall, do we say recommend this film?
Highly recommend.
Thank you.
Must see.
It is, I would call it one of the worst movies i've ever seen in my
entire life whoa wait really this is true yes i walked away from that movie like i mean not not
for me to be like i don't think it was the worst move but i know for you i feel like you've come
after a lot of films like yeah i've seen not to brag everybody but i've seen a lot of movies and
uh i i'm coming at it from like a pretty strictly narrative like screenwriting
point of view if you just examine this story it is the messiest like yeah scene by scene like
compilation of there's like exposition in the second act and you're like there's this like
i mean nothing it was the first draft of the script i swear and it was a bad first draft y'all like
caitlin is holding her face like a disappointed parent right now i i like other people in the
theater with me seem to be enjoying it and i just kept like looking around being like are we all
watching the same movie here because it is a mess that when that turn happened like he's a ghost i
went to her majesty i was like everything was moot then up until this point. She was hallucinating that shit.
It doesn't even matter because what the fuck is this?
She's like, yeah, but she's still like those experiences around like you or don't just.
We'll talk about this after the film, but I will keep watching.
The movie has two manic pixie dream people in it.
Yeah.
So if you like that and Michelle Yeoh as Santa.
Yeah.
Who also has this really random love interest story
that's wedged in there
that has absolutely
no bearing
on the story.
It's a disaster.
In love with a German man
who makes her eat sauerkraut.
Yeah.
Essentially is what
you can distill
that relationship down to.
It is a terrible movie
that everyone must see.
Must see.
Because you might get enraged
in the...
For me,
I like it because
it enrages me
in the way I like to be enraged when I watch bad films.
I'm like, this is – y'all are joking.
Where I'm like watching like, y'all, okay, okay.
But it's so – like Paul Feig directed it.
He's a competent director.
Emma Thompson, competent writer.
It's the script.
It's a mess.
Yeah.
The script is from 98.
Yeah.
We all know that.
Okay.
Well, that about does it for us.
Nick, thank you so much.
Incredible news. For joining us. Yeah, thank you so much. Incredible news.
Yeah, you're reeling from this revelation.
No, but Paul Feig, that was an incredible drop right at the end.
Also, he was one of the best comedy directors we have.
He is, but I think it shows you how much he must have been restricted by the script.
Or I don't know.
I can't make heads or tails.
Is he fucking up too?
Who do we get mad at here?
Emma Thompson, Paul Feig, everybody?
Everybody.
The system?
Mr. Hollywood.
Yeah.
You know what?
Unless they donated their checks to charity, we could be mad at them.
Yes.
I'm mad at everyone in that movie.
Thank you.
Except Henry Golding because, of course, he's been dead the whole time.
Yeah.
He's been dead the whole time.
Yeah.
Don't kick a dead man.
Nick, where can people find you and follow you?
They can find me on the internet.
I do have a podcast called Recently Added
where every week we watch every Netflix original
and review it that week.
It's the only place on earth
where people have enough time to do that. And I also have a podcast
called Get Rich Nick, where me
and my co-host Nick
Vatterot,
every week we try a different way to get rich
quickly. This week,
for Thanksgiving, we have a Thanksgiving episode for
in-game football betting.
So you can avoid your family
and just bet on football all day and make a
little scratch. And grift it up.
And then next week, we donate sperm.
Oh.
We get into it.
Wait.
And you're fine with your seed being out there?
Oh, I have no problem.
Nick and I have very different views about how fine we are with our seeds being out there.
Oh, so he is like, I don't know.
Yeah, but I'm like, I would set up shop at my house if I could.
You probably have already, right? I don't care. Yeah. Just don't like, I would set up shop at my house if I could. You probably have already.
I don't care.
Yeah.
Just don't tell me about it.
Here's my grift.
Yeah.
Once the kid, I check the box, he can contact me when he's 18.
But then when he contacts me, I say, of course I'll meet with you for $10,000.
And then I'm making money on the back end.
Holy shit.
Wow.
Come on.
Just another example of male privilege.
You can just squirt out your seed into the world, make a bunch of money on it.
Charge your progeny.
I would love to sell my seed.
Get my eggs out of there.
They're all for sale.
Anyone, highest bidder, take them all.
Individually, I don't know.
I just don't want them.
You're doing a 12 for one deal?
Pretty penny. take them all or individually i don't know i just don't want them well you can get for one deal pretty penny but it's such an invasive and like yeah procedure to get eggs out of a body when i
used to work at the coach store my co-worker she was so fertile she was breaking records at the
fertility clinic she was donating her eggs too wow and she didn't even have to work because the
her the harvesting or the donations were so out of this world,
like numerically in terms of the quantity.
She was only working there so her mom wasn't suspicious
of why she had all this money.
So she was like laundering?
Well, it was like when I used to sell drugs or whatever,
I worked at the laser tag place.
And I was like, no, mom, I did a birthday party
and moved a couple ounces.
But that's why I'm wearing this cool pinup this pinwheel hat fitted in throwback
jersey but like that was her thing because she was in college and she like when first found out
about it and the money she made she was like oh shit but when her mom was like wait how are you
I thought like we were on a scholarship and all these other things she's like oh let me get a job
real quick she was really dope though shout out to out to you. I'm not going to give your name.
It is lucrative.
We interviewed people who donated sperm and donated eggs.
And Sue Smith, we interviewed about donating eggs.
And she said that she stopped because it was like she's making too much money and just
relying on that.
She's like, this can't be my life.
Oh, wow.
It's like, this will demotivate me.
Because you also age out of it pretty quickly.
They don't want eggs that are too...
Mine are too old.
My 33-year-old eggs.
Toss salad
in 33-year-old eggs.
Toss salad in rotten eggs.
What's a tweet that you like?
I was just looking up, as you know, What's a tweet that you like?
I was just looking up As you know
I very rarely like any tweets
It's not part of my life where I click
Like
I couldn't care less
All my tweets are like
I guess we're pieces of shit
No
Cool man I get it I don't do so many things that people enjoy Like a nice person does Yes, we're pieces of shit, Caitlin. Yep. No, no, cool, man.
I get it, dude.
No, it's fine.
It's fine.
I don't do so many things that people enjoy like a nice person does.
But I just don't see the point.
We've got anti-colonizer Thanksgiving over here.
You're with the Twitter likes, anti-Twitter likes.
Yeah.
Better cause for you, Caitlin.
Thank you so much.
Okay.
Here we go.
John Ozele says, when I hang with Will...
Okay.
Well, this one needs a backstory.
Go on.
Do you remember there was a bunch of people posting videos of them and Will Smith?
There was like...
I think there was a couple like to promote their half hours.
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
And then just like for a few days, there was like way too many of my friends just hanging out with Will Smith
he must have been at a thing but then John O'Sulley wrote
when I hang with Will Smith
we put our phones away and just enjoy the moments
we have together
I enjoyed that
real friendship
Caitlin, thank you for joining me today
thanks for having me
where can people find you?
well first of all, Nick,
I didn't, I never revealed the anagram of my name.
So Caitlin Durante, anagrams to Nick Turner detail.
So it's not quite right.
So it's a Boston accent on the like Turner
and it's the Nick without the K, but Nick Turner detail.
Oh, I like it.
There you go.
Nick turned I elate?
Elate?
No.
Never mind.
I can't read.
Never mind.
I'm illiterate.
Unless this is a day of reckoning for Papa John's.
Trick Nooner.
There you go.
Thank goodness.
Trick Nooner in the building.
Very good.
That was a real light anagram.
Greatest submarine-style picture from the 1970s.
Caitlin, where can people find you?
Follow you.
You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante.
You can listen to my podcast about the representation of women in movies and how it's historically been really freaking bad.
Did you do Last Christmas?
You should do Last Christmas.
Maybe.
We'll see.
Maybe next year.
You don't have to subject people to that. Yeah, for sure.
This year we do have a Home Alone episode coming out.
We're doing the Santa Claus.
We do have a Home Alone episode coming out.
We're doing the Santa Claus.
And on our Patreon, we're doing the – I think it's – no, A Night Before Christmas.
K-N-I-G-S-T.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The women in Home Alone, that's good.
They're very forgetful or they live under a bridge.
Well, the movie – I don't know how recently you've seen it, but the movie does like an alarming amount,
like way more than I remembered to like justify why they might have forgotten their child at home i just i was like
oh they're just really bad parents but they like set it up they count there's the neighbor kid
runs over and yeah he gets counted in the van yeah he's in the attic so they forget yeah exactly i
would never forget my child and if and nick I know you would never forget your child.
Thank you.
Yes.
For $10,000.
But yeah, that's the Bechdelcast is my podcast.
Yep, yep.
Listen to Sludge, which is my podcast about how broken and biased the healthcare system is in the US.
New season coming out in January.
Fantastic. And I also
teach online screenwriting classes with
the master's degree that I have.
Do you hold the master's degree
next to you in the frame?
I turned it into a shirt.
Oh, great. Yeah, it's like screen
printed and then I wear that shirt.
Okay. What's a tweet you like?
This one comes from Debra D. Giovanni.
A very funny comedian.
She said, Shia LaBeouf said he likes, quote, boring missionary sex, and I am sopping wet.
Relatable, Deborah.
Very relatable.
Yes.
Oh, man.
Well, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
A tweet that I like was actually brought to my attention from a listener, Alex Ruiz at AX Ruiz, because this was a tweet from Tony Posnanski about Papa John's.
It said, this is his tweet.
If you want to make a Papa John's pizza at home, here's the recipe.
Cardboard, ketchup, three pieces of mozzarella cheese, a shitload of grease, a grease a maga hat two swastikas and a dash of racism enjoy uh and
but they forgot sugar that's what alex also said because we all know that's the problem with their
pizza it's not the swastikas the swastikas taste fine it's too sweet sugar yeah the sauce is too
much do you like papa john's i don't't. No. Okay. I mean, all-
You wouldn't debase yourself.
All food, all the pizzas, all those pizzas are trash.
But there's still a trash hierarchy.
It's so, you know, just like you can't figure me out, I can't figure out where your trash
palette is.
Yeah.
Right.
But you have a trash palette, but we don't know where it is.
You were saying about the reality shows earlier, like, well, there's ways to make a – like, 90 Day Fiancé, I don't consider it trash.
I think it's a good show because everyone behind the scenes is good at making a show.
Okay.
So what's a trash show?
The people, the subjects are terrible.
Yeah.
But that doesn't make – a trash show is Real Housewives because those people are also can't hold my attention.
Well, fantastic.
Speaking of 90 Day Fiancé, you can also check out my podcast for 20 Day Fiancé with Sophia Alexandra.
You know, featuring an elevated discussion.
It's half game show, half recap show of our favorite trash reality show.
Game show?
Oh, yeah.
Tune in.
Yeah.
We got algorithms and all kinds of shit.
Trying to make it objective.
But, yes.
Where was I?
Did I say a tweet that I like?
I did.
Now, you can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page.
We have a website, dailyzeitgeist.com,
where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
Thank you, Dan.
You know, where you can look at all this stuff,
the episodes, and even the songs we write out on.
What's that song we're writing out on?
Ah, well, let me tell you.
It is by an artist named Nicholas F.
Not Turner, but it's spelled N-I-C-K-E-L-U-S-F.
And the track is called Mids.
And it has like this like sort of updated James Brown soul thing,
but trappy, but the samples are from back then.
It's just got a good energy.
And I think we all need good energy to, you know,
go into this holiday weekend.
And, oh, one last thing.
I would be remiss if I weren't to bring this up.
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we love you
goodbye
goodbye
we were lighting up
the anxiety
they turn around
and sell me
the only thing in life I'm ashamed of
Is that I'm spoken easy
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Put em down, put em down
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