The Daily Zeitgeist - Party City USA, Woman Weaponizes Whiteness 5.27.20
Episode Date: May 27, 2020In episode 638, Jack and Miles are joined by the Randy and Jason Sklar to discuss people's lack of social distancing on Memorial Day weekend, misinformation being spread about coronavirus, this week i...n racist white women behavior, and more!FOOTNOTES: No social distance here: Videos show Americans packing parks, beaches for Memorial Day Florida scientist says she was ousted after refusing to manipulate state’s COVID-19 data 'I'm looking for the truth': States face criticism for COVID-19 data cover-ups WATCH: Unmasking The Science You Aren’t Hearing On TV | COVID-19 Facts from the Frontline | Tony Robbins A white woman apologized after calling police on a black man and saying 'there's an African American man threatening my life' No, Covering Your Face To Keep Out The COVID-19 Isn’t Slavery Night of a Thousand Sklars - Live Stand-Up Comedy with the Sklar Brothers WATCH: Metronomy - Summer Jam Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Randy and Jason Sklar!
What's up, you guys?
What up?
Thank you for having us.
Thanks for having us.
We don't have any long intro names.
I mean, on our podcast, our daily podcast,
Sklar Brokent with the Virus Edition,
we do aka
the Pandy Pods
aka
one egg
four legs
aka
two Jews
no harm in kill a bruise
aka
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no tattoos
aka
two Wolverines
one quarantine
aka
two bros
lots of hoes
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usually people
feel
overwhelmed by our AKs and the shoes on the other foot.
I love them.
Look at that.
Turn the tables right out the gate.
You turn the tables right out the gate.
How are you guys doing with quarantining?
Well, I bought an above ground pool, so I'm going full white trash.
And I just been floating in it drinking cans of beer
yelling at my kids like it's amazing the second you get in the pool it can be the most tranquil
thing ever and then you just start yelling at you're like britney get down from there i don't
have a daughter named britney i got no kids named britney that's what i'm doing water activated
outrage yeah britney is uh spelled with an N-I, right?
I have to assume that's the above ground pull spelling.
Yeah.
So my youngest daughter is in like competitive gymnastics.
And when we used to go to meets, remember when we all used to meet out in the public together?
When we went to meets, my wife and I would just write down the names of all the other kids who were there. And just there are moments when if we're unhappy or anything, I'll just pull out that list in my notes and just start reading it.
Caitlin, Braylon, Brylon, Raylon, Jimberley.
Jimberley.
Is that real?
Jimberley sounds like where you do gymnastics.
It's like where you take your two-year-old for a birthday party.
Oh, we're taking her over to Jimberley.
That's a real goddamn
name. Wow. Is that with a G
or a J? G-Y-M.
G-Y-M-B-E-R-L-E-E.
L-E-I-G.
She had it in her blood.
J-I-M-B-U-R-L-Y.
Or Burley Jim.
Jim Burley.
Jim Burley.
I like that they're not being gender specific.
Hey, she's into flannels.
What do I, I'm not a bad guy?
Yeah, exactly.
All right, guys.
Well, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today.
People really had to party this long weekend it turns out they they
went off as the kids say and it was it was interesting we're also gonna cover sort of the
ideological undergirding of that reaction there seems to be a growing populist sentiment that uh this whole lockdown thing was a big uh
much ado about nothing except non-shakespearean whatever the not shakespeare version of of that
sentiment is and it is best summarized by a new tony robbins video that i i saw get forward a
couple times on facebook of course the facebook video. Because that's where disinformation goes.
I'm so glad I'm not on Facebook anymore.
It seems like I'm impervious to these bullshit videos coming.
Because I saw you writing this piece.
I'd be like, I've seen this video multiple times.
It's been shared multiple times.
And I'm like, how?
I need to get back on a boomer Facebook.
Facebook is just for your racist uncle
and the police department.
It's like dabbing.
Yeah.
It is like dabbing at this point.
It was the trickle down.
It was the trickle down effect
where I feel like people started forwarding it to my wife.
My wife.
Very cool.
Very cool.
And it was very frustrating.
We're going to talk about a big week for Karen.
Karen's, the Karen Hall of Fame has some new nominees, inductees.
So we're going to talk about them.
We're going to talk about Florida theme parks reopening.
And we're going to talk about the bidet uh all of that and plenty more
but first randy jason what is something from you guys's search history that is revealing about who
you guys are uh well i have this is one thing that i've been doing to sort of keep myself sane
somewhat we miss sports we're big sports fans and And I, in my recent, I have a ton of
searches of university of Michigan, like football and basketball recruits, which on the surface is
like, you're hopeful about the future of, uh, your sports team. You want sports to come back
at a certain time. You're looking at what the future is going to bring. And then I realized
that it's a bunch of searches of me getting information
about high school kids.
Is that weird?
That's so uncomfortable.
It feels terrible.
I'm like, what's this kid's reach?
How much weight did he gain?
Talking about his body.
I'm like, yeah.
You're like, turn to the side and cough.
Why am I searching that?
Why am I suddenly becoming Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs?
Let me Google puts the lotion in the basket.
No, my last search, and this should tell you what,
is I searched cartoon baby squirrels.
Uh-huh.
Hard to make.
By the way, you'll never see a cartoon baby squirrel wearing pants now they may be wearing
shoes and socks and the shoes are fully tied up in a shirt but no pants cartoon baby squirrels uh
part of that was my so my daughter wanted me to look one up so i could like draw it on her dry
erase board but then i got so obsessed with like how over sexualized so many of them are and these
are baby squirrels these aren't even like i could not believe how sad this is where i started to go
down the rabbit hole i couldn't believe how sexual i go down the squirrel hole i went down the squirrel
hole uh baby squirrels i didn't i didn't google adult sexy cartoon squirrels right i googled
baby squirrels and i'm like why are their eyes so big why am i
seeing the beginning of cleavage what is going on here what like it became a very disturbing
thing that i was trying to almost try to avoid it and at the same time i couldn't stop going down
through it which probably says more about me but that's my latest search yeah cartoon baby
squirrels are very different than actual baby squirrels for for sure so yeah it was it was a
disturbing it was a disturbing google search to go down thinking that i was just going to be looking
at some adorable baby animated squirrels and it just took me to a horrible place squirrels are so
like they're
also my buddy of mine years ago when i was in college there was like an abandoned baby squirrel
like but in his driveway and he was like you know what i'm gonna take this squirrel in and at the
time in our early 20s like yeah this is great dude yes like give it a box let's fucking put
some towels in there keep this fucking warm cut to like three weeks later when it
just became mobile and it was running a fucking muck just shitting everywhere it was like chaos
what you just described is that the lesson that we learned from the tiger king like they're great
when they're tiny but then when they're 500 pounds and about to rip your face off like you don't want
it get it out of you yeah but it's to the point where i feel like are you are uh i've spoken
before on the show about how i think birds are getting more aggressive uh in a way that i find
very untrustworthy uh i think squirrels are doing the same in my experience are you guys seeing more
aggressive squirrels yeah so new york squirrels. New York squirrels, they don't care.
New York squirrels are like panhandling for nuts.
And if you don't give it...
I've seen a New York squirrel give the finger.
And I'm like, you guys don't even have fingers.
How are you giving the finger?
The Strokes should have written a song called New York City Squirrels,
not New York City Cards.
Throw you up against a car. And then sell youirrels, not New York City Cars. Throw you up against
a car. And then sell you
a counterfeit MetroCard, too.
And you're like, wait,
this thing looks so real.
Who's doing the artwork on this shit?
That looks like a Rolex. That seriously
looks a lot like a Rolex.
How does this squirrel have a tiny trench coat?
What is something you guys think is underrated?
All right, this is easy for me.
We've talked about this numerous times in my podcast.
I'll tell a story that will lead to my answer.
I was at the very first, I have a son who's 11,
at the first birthday party I ever went to for him when he was three.
It was at a really nice house a really nice house really big beautiful house and i went in the kitchen where
their food was and on this gorgeous marble round sort of tray was an amazing and when i say one of
the best pizzas i've ever eaten in my life i i was like my wife's not at this party i'm just gonna
eat like five pieces of pizza. So I start eating.
I'm eating the pizza, and I'm telling anyone who will listen how good this pizza is.
I'm like, this pizza is unbelievable.
Everybody, everyone, everyone, everyone, to the point where I'm like,
I have to talk to this woman whose party it is and find out,
did she make this pizza, or what delicious artisan pizzeria did she get this amazing pizza?
Domino's Thin Crust. So I track her down, and I was like, where did you get this amazing pizza domino's thin crust track her down
and i was like where'd you get this pizza and she's like it's domino's so i went as soon as
she said domino's i'm like now i have to rethink like when is a baby a baby is it conception i
don't know because remember they were super right to life i'm like oh you're serious i was joking
holy shit that's how good this pizza was it wasn wasn't Domino's thin crust. It was regular Domino's. I was like, wow.
What is it?
Seasoned with?
I was totally duped.
And from then on, I'm like, Domino's pizza is underrated.
I can't get on board with their right to life stuff,
but their pizza is so good that it made me reconsider it for a moment.
All right.
So that's you, Jason.
They put a lot of work into that crust.
That was like a big thing.
They came back. They put a lot of work into that crust. That was like a big thing. They came back.
They put a lot of life.
They put a lot of life into that crust.
You know, the type of life that comes after the second trimester of a baby being made.
They're very pro pizza.
They're pro pizza.
I just like the idea of you at a table eating an obscene amount of pizza and like, hey, get over here.
Get over here.
Have you guys tried this?
I'm going to check this out.
You guys know where this thing came from?
What small old man from the old country threw this pizza?
Like, I literally was like,
I want to hear the entire story of the family
who opened up the small pizza grill where you bought this from.
Do I need to help give them a small business loan?
No, it's Domino's, you dumb shit.
Well, the guy who founded it definitely has the values of someone from the old country from the old old country old old country
the old and old exactly uh that's right so my thing that i think is i think it's underrated
and overrated so i'm gonna kind of go both right here so my it's so the thing that i think is underrated
and it really just depends who you're talking to so i went the last two years to burning man i've
never been in my entire here we are we're about 10 minutes into this podcast he brought it you
don't get it he doesn't get it so i went to burning man with my wife because she really wanted to go
and and we went and it was crazy and it was super fun and i think for anyone who
hasn't been to burning man you tell them about it it's overrated they're like yeah so you sat out in
the desert in a dust storm which by the way wearing masks it's right now in the world right now it
feels like burning man only like people are pissed off annoyed and they're not high so it's like the
day after Burning Man
when everybody's taking all the shit down
because you're still wearing the mask,
but like you just can't.
So for anyone who's been, I feel like it's underrated
because like you go to Burning Man
and you are literally out of your mind on everything
and you see like a birthday cake
that just blow up into like fireworks
in the middle of like a hundred yards
away from you. And you say to yourself, I'm never going to see that ever again in my entire life.
And then you dance in a pyramid. It's just fun. It's just crazy. It's amazing. But for people
who haven't been, they're just like, what, what are you talking about? So you've got a free
popsicle. Shut the hell up. I would go so far as to say, even hearing people's stories about
Burning Man, if you commit commit like if you go in and
you're just like all right i'm gonna hear a story about some dirty hippies who are like you know
bargaining their oatmeal cookies for some like bullshit wax sculpture like you're not gonna be
entertained but if you just like really dig in and like imagine you're listening to a short story or
like something and like listen to somebody who's like good at describing things i've had very good
experiences i've never been to burning man but like i did a whole podcast just talking to my
former co-host michael swaim about his burning man experience and And purely at his insistence, I was like, all right, man, fine.
We'll talk about it.
And so I was stuck talking to him about Burning Man.
And it was one of my favorite conversations
because he really took me there.
And it's not that bad.
There's also a really good New Yorker piece
about somebody who went to Burning Man. And I think it's New Yorker. It might be that bad. There's also a really good New Yorker piece about somebody who went to Burning Man.
I think it's New Yorker.
It might be something else.
I like to remind people I read the New Yorker.
Do you read the New Yorker?
That's amazing.
Not the New York Post.
Right.
It's like the New York Post.
Okay, it was the New York Post.
It was page six.
All right, good.
Exactly.
But yeah, it can be worth listening to people's stories about burning man uh so i think
it's it's both overrated on it's overrated to the people who haven't been it is very underrated to
the people who have been so i'm sorry i kind of rode the line on both of those things but it was
it was again for someone who late in life or tried something, it's not like I went 20 years ago.
Right.
But I'm talking about going now at a point in time where you don't think you can be surprised by things or experiencing things in a new way.
It was amazing.
Culturally, did you have any sort of connection to the art crowd, the kinds of people that would be at Burning Man?
What was your evolution to be a non-burnerer to two-time burner to become a burner so my so my wife went to when she was younger like
traveled around and followed the grateful dead in like the earth in the mid 80s like went on
tour with them so she went to like 165 dead and jerry's shows in her lifetime wow she went to
the oregon country fair which is just like an awesome, crazy freak fest.
And she's been to rainbow gatherings and all this stuff.
So she's got it in her blood.
Got it.
She was like, I really want to go.
Then we had friends who were parents of kids in our school where we live out in LA.
And they were like, we're going and we're setting up a camp if you guys want to go.
Then we met a bunch of people out there who were,
who knew people that we knew back in LA. And we have since become really close friends with a lot
of people that we met there. It was just amazing. I, to me, it like reminded me of in college when
you'd have like that night where you're like, we don't know where we're going. And you wind up at
this party and then you go over here and you're at another party and then three people who you met at that party take you to another party
there was this kind of reaching back to our youth and the way we were when we were kids in this sort
of we didn't know where it was going to lead us but we just knew we were in for the ride like
that attitude was very intoxicating that was super fun openness yeah yeah yeah the openness of not
having a plan because when you have kids and when you're sort of planning stuff out for other people,
it's regimented in a way that you just have to.
It's like, guys, I can do this mushroom trip for another 42 minutes, and then I got to go.
And then someone's got to go home and let the sitter go to sleep.
Yeah, I got to let the sitter.
But what it did was I was like, okay, how can we bring that back to...
And we lead a
life where sometimes we'll go out on the, which when we were before this whole thing would go out
on the road and you're in another city and people are taking you out. And yes, you can have that
kind of a time because that's what we do. I feel like my wife had a little less of that. And so
for her, she was like really excited to go. And I'm like, let's just go and really do it.
Like literally go to the wall on
this one and it was amazing it was so much fun so you can't rate it high enough for people who
went and had a good right right right uh so that is both your overrated and underrated that's right
that's right all right what do you uh so i gotta do an overrated now yeah do an over you gotta do an overrated jason all right so part of me wants to say peloton but i don't have it so i can't really
from experience but it does feel like a cult and it does feel like it's overrated and the fact that
you have to pay all the time for that the thing though that i why it's the type of thing you can
give your wife who's already in good shape a complex and say, here, get in shape. It'll be the first thing that
she's ever tried on her own.
It'll make her grow as a
human. It's the best thing you ever tried
on your own that I bought for you.
I can't believe I'm
really doing it, you guys.
Maybe that
is it. I was going to say
when your
before picture looks
like an after picture peloton yeah yeah oh jesus so my other one was gonna be like and maybe this
is showing my age but i have always thought and i tried to get into his music a little bit but
skrillex dj skrillex i don't know what the fuck you call him, but Dubstep and Skrillex and that stuff.
And maybe that's me being, I thought for a long time, I'm like, hey, I'm just an old guy.
I don't get it.
I'm not into it.
But then I was like, you know what?
It's like, honestly, like I love so many different kinds of music.
I love so many different kinds of new music that's out there.
I love all kinds of music. This music, different kinds of new music that's out there i love all kinds of
music this music i think is super overrated and i think it falls into the category of we are calling
this person a genius just because i think we're supposed to call this person a genius he's not a
genius he's not right doing something he's doing something but like he's doing something this
skrillex he's doing something he's pushing
buttons he's pushing you know i think jay doesn't dubstep i think is really interesting i i a i love
that this is a take from 2011 that we've just got to yeah that's right is this time can we now do we
have enough distance that we can now look at it and be like we were what and also he looks like
cory feldman with an interesting haircut.
Let's be real.
He does.
But I think, you know, with dubstep, like me, I'm also a musician.
I love making music, playing music.
And when I first heard dubstep and tried to make it, that was when I had respect for them.
Because when you actually look at like any kind of synthesizer software or whatever,
and to do all those, it's a lot of work.
But yeah, to a certain point.
So he doesn't understand it.
Yeah, but also to a certain point, though,
I feel like, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Now I'm trying to think of like,
well, maybe there is some dubstep we could get you into.
Maybe Skrillex was the wrong venture in there.
Maybe like a Rusko remix of a song you already know.
There we go.
So that's it.
I mean, I'll say one more thing
that I think is overrated
just because I want to have my own thing
is that when we were in Madison, Wisconsin
in the winter doing shows there
at a great club,
the Comedy Club on State,
everybody was like,
you got to go to the indoor farmer's market.
They're like, you got it.
There's this indoor farmer's market.
You got to go to the indoor farm.
Have you been to everybody?
Have you been to the indoor farmer's market?
It's like nothing you've ever seen before.
You've never seen anything like indoor farmer's market.
It's in a convention center.
We're like an indoor farmer's market.
So basically a supermarket.
Yeah, right.
Because they get their stuff from farms.
Whole foods, like every whole foods we've ever been in our lives.
So that's the thing we've never seen before. All that was overrated that was definitely overrated yeah that was definitely
overrated but yeah i think uh but i will say i don't think you're missing anything by putting
the skrillex albums to bed you know yeah thank you i mean yeah and by the way that wasn't that
wasn't a knock on all of dubstep true true but somewhat fans. We're like nine years past it, though. I don't care.
People who were big.
I love it, yeah.
I mean, Shaquille O'Neal is a huge dubstep fan.
If you see him now, he loves going to these dubstep shows
and even DJs now.
It's so funny.
And he's the hippest person we know.
Yeah, of course.
And he's like, his whole thing.
Yeah, the idea of Jay uh jay's gonna now take on uh who's he gonna take on at this point he's like the tommy gotchy egg
people you're going down bitches you're going down bandai yeah no but i i kind of agree that like
you know disco had such a profound backlash after it was popular,
but I feel like maybe Dubstep didn't fully have that moment.
We just sort of moved away from it and were like,
well, that was weird.
Yeah.
Maybe it is kind of like that, Disco.
I mean, until they're at baseball games,
they're smashing up Skrillex records in front of people.
By the way,
we met the guy who did that.
We met the guy who did that.
Yeah.
That promotion.
And by the way,
that was one of the only times.
So it happens in Chicago,
right?
Right.
It happened in between.
It's a doll.
Dave doll was his name.
Steve,
Steve doll was the guy's name.
And he,
it was between a double header.
It was one of the only times that they canceled the second game
that wasn't due to weather and it wasn't due to anything else.
It was that and the other time they canceled it was in the 60s.
I think they had five-cent beer night in Cleveland.
And everyone got so crazy.
They're like, we got to cancel this.
Right, right, right.
For people who don't know,
there was a group ritual smashing of disco records
because everyone was like, this is not work.
We can't let rock go for this.
Disco sucks.
It was at Kaminsky,
right?
It was in Chicago.
It was at Kaminsky,
the old Kaminsky park.
That's my next take.
Disco overrated.
Yeah,
you heard it.
You heard it right here.
Why do you like me now?
He just dropped the mic folks.
Oh,
wait,
wait till Usher overrated.
Wait till Jay goes, wait till Jay goes all in on Shubba Wamba.
I mean, forget it, man.
Oh, no.
All right, guys, let's take a quick break,
and we'll come back and talk to you about a myth.
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And guys, what is a myth?
What's something people think is true, you know, to be false or vice versa?
So we talked about this.
I mean, this is an old, this is again, another very old reference.
But there was a thing, there was a myth going around in the 1980s
about Phil Collins, lead singer of Genesis.
Phil Collins sang a song in the air tonight and the
myth about the song was that he had watched someone else watch someone drown which we're like
doesn't that mean you watch them drown you fucking watch them no i was just focused on
the bystander oh no you saw him drown him drown. What was that guy doing over there?
What's that splashing sound?
No.
So then apparently he wrote In the Air Tonight,
where the lyrics of the song were,
and I was there and I saw what you did,
saw it with my own two eyes.
Which is somewhat of a bit misnomer
because he didn't do anything.
He just sat there and watched the guy drown.
So you saw what he didn't do.
Right.
But so you,
you were there,
you saw what he did.
So you're just,
so then the myth was that he invited that guy to a concert and then saying
that song to him,
to let him know that he saw him watch another person drown,
which to us was like,
sounds like a logistical nightmare.
Cause what if you send the guy tickets and he comes,
you gotta like,
be like,
did he get here?
Then all of it is.
So then now the whole band is in on it too.
They're like guys,
Phil Collins is like saying to like Mike Rutherford,
the other guys in Genesis guys.
I wasn't Genesis is Phil Collins by himself.
That's right.
Phil Collins.
He's saying to the band,
Hey guys,
listen,
we got to have a real loose set list tonight.
It's got to bounce around.
Because what if he's like ready to sing the song and the guy's out taking a leak?
You know what I mean?
Or get a hot dog.
So now it's like maybe did they start the song and then notice he was gone and go to
another song and then it makes him look very it's it's a plan with a lot of holes that
feels like a huge mistake.
So that feels like a myth that we all accept is true,
but it didn't happen.
I wonder if he really did see someone drown, though.
Do a lot of people still believe that, though?
And then he's just trying to create some kind of layer
of liability insurance?
Right.
It's like my friend is having marital trouble.
My friend witnessed somebody drown and didn't do
anything that's why i wrote this there's a lot of people in phil collins life who are saying
are you your friend yeah right right exactly i think people believe that he saw something
because how would you write that song i mean unless he just is like it's a metaphor for
you know whatever but maybe
two hearts beating at just one time was him saying those two people are actually one it's all me
right that was his confession song there you go um yeah i i have to think that's true i think
we've solved it we solved it we busted that myth What was your other myth, man? I think eugenics is like a crazy myth that it helps you because, you know, you see all
those ads for like Frank Thomas, you know, the big hurt.
That's my favorite.
The woman at the restaurant is like, no, no, they're at the bar.
She's like, hey, that's Frank Thomas.
The big hurt.
It's like, you don't know that that's the big hurt.
Right.
You don't.
I know that as a child
of the 90s like who loved baseball but like when every time i see that the first time i saw that
commercial so jarring because i was like what i mean a frank thomas looks great no shade to him
but who who could he possibly be selling something i mean i mean i don't want to throw shade to him
he looks fine all right He doesn't look unbelievable.
It's not like you look at Frank Thomas and you're like,
no, I watched Mike Tyson throw some punches in a little video display,
and I'm like, that dude is in his 50s, and he's jacked,
and he's like, Frank Thomas doesn't look like that.
Frank Thomas looks smooth and good.
He looks like he wasn't abusing his body after the sports more than
anything.
Right.
Frank Thomas looks like he works out three days a week and only his upper
body.
Okay.
He certainly doesn't look like he's been cut out of granite by eugenics.
Frank Thomas looks like someone who like at meals with his wife is like,
she's like, you've had, don't have have another piece of bread because the meal is coming.
He's like, I can have another piece of bread.
You got eugenics.
Back up.
Eugenics.
I want eugenics.
Eugenics says I can have it.
And these people are freaking out.
And then he says to the guy, and she'll enjoy it too.
And my son watched that, and my son was like, he's 11.
He's like, why?
And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know why. We don't know's like why and i'm like i don't know i don't
know why you don't know why she'll enjoy it i really don't know right enjoy it it tastes good
it tastes like kool-aid uh oh i was just reading up phil collins on fallon said that the meaning
was he was going through a divorce oh that's what he says so he saw someone else watch someone
drowning and you could not lend a hand.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
I mean,
look,
it's all metaphors,
you know,
like I guess in that sense,
you can use that to explain.
Okay.
You want,
should we really break it down?
Yes.
How,
how is him going through a divorce?
How is that watching,
watching another man,
watch someone else drown.
Like if he's the guy going through it
who's he watching drown who's he watching watch another person drown he is self yeah like or it's
like really passive-aggressive like he's taking shots at his ex-wife it's like you saw me just
drowning there you didn't fucking help me that's right that's it i was the one drowning or maybe
calling his ex-wife a really bad friend.
Being like, man, you really could have helped your friend out there.
She was going through something just because it's a divorce song.
It's very petty.
He's like, it's the metaphor.
I am the friend.
I am also drowning.
I'm also drowning.
Right, exactly.
I wonder, okay, now, was it that he caught them cheating?
Maybe.
Because if you said, well, if you told me you were drowning,
I would not lend a hand.
I've seen your face before, my friend,
but I don't know if you know who I am.
Well, I was there, and I saw what you did.
I saw it with my own two eyes, so you can wipe it off that grin.
I know where you've been.
It's all been a pack of lies.
Yeah, we hit that drum solo together.
Those are my favorite lyrics of the song, by the way.
That's right.
Amazing.
Well, it actually comes later on.
It's no stranger to you.
Well, you know what, Miles?
It was fine.
Good point, Miles.
People are going to let us go.
Hey, got to respect that fill.
Yeah.
Yeah. That drum fill and fill. There you go. Good point. People are going to let us go. Hey, you got to respect that fill. Yeah. Yeah.
That drum fill and fill.
There you go.
Double fill.
Double fill.
Let's talk about what happened over Memorial Day weekend.
It was a lot of parties, a lot of big parties that I was under the impression we were not
supposed to be engaging in.
that I was under the impression we were not supposed to be engaging in.
North Carolina went pretty wild at a race.
Missouri went to Lake of the Ozarks.
A water park opened in Houston in defiance of state orders.
With, like, lines so long, it was like, I don't know.
You guys are from missouri right so we're from st louis and we would like vacation down in the lake of the ozarks which
was a man-made lake it doesn't look like a lake it looks like a cancer spreading out above it's
like it's an old pit mine it is water here is what literally here is what the Lake of the Ozarks are known for.
They're known for wacky T-shirts, saltwater taffy, and the spread of disease.
And that was in the 80s.
Yeah.
Wow.
So imagine now, like if you're at a pool bar at the Lake of the Ozarks right now, you are getting something.
I don't know if it's Corona.
It's something.
of the Ozarks right now, you are getting something.
I don't know if it's Corona.
It's something.
I was just like, coconuts, the name of that bar that everyone was at.
I was like, hey, that place looks like a fun time maybe when there's not a pandemic.
I like the idea of like, I don't know.
Simultaneously, I had so many thoughts. First was like, all these people, they don't know where each other have been.
This is completely reckless.
Then I'm like, oh, that's cool. They have bar tops like in the pool so you can just take your bar
and then i'm like wait the water's waist high is everyone just pissing in that thing and then i'm
like god yeah yeah then my then my whole concern looking at that video is like the pee at the pool
at coconut it's not not covet 19 i was like the amount of piss you're wallowing in at that party. You're literally standing in a urinal.
Yeah.
It's a piss bottle.
That's actually when I was young.
In my early 20s, I went to the Kentucky Derby.
It rained.
I was sliding around the infield on my stomach into a puddle of water.
And then I looked up, and the puddle was being filled from the troughs
from the bathroom.
Oh my God.
And I barely missed a beat.
That's,
uh,
that's how I was getting down at that point in my life.
Yeah.
What it means to be young.
But the whole thing though is like, I guess when I look at these images my life. Yeah. That's what it means to be young.
The whole thing, though, is like, I guess when I look at these images, and most people do, it's like, what is the mentality? Because I understand, like, everyone, it's very trying to be stuck at home and to completely have the brakes slammed on your way of living.
But the other side of that coin is like like this is an unprecedented biological medical emergency that
we have to wait for science to address so we can be safe and i'm like listen but we don't have to
wait for science i was listening to a harvard a former harvard professor who spent his entire life
working on the aids like treating aids and whatnot last night he's like which we still by the way
don't have which we still have a thing for but but he's like, we've controlled it. What we need to do, he's like, if everyone stays home and everyone wears masks and socially distanced and we find out who has coronavirus and put those people in a 14-day sequestered place and then contact trace them and test them, we can get rid of this in six weeks.
We can open back up the economy.
We can go full bore.
We'll back in school.
Businesses can open up if we economy we can go full bore we'll back in school businesses can open
up if we do that that he's literally like by randy this ain't new zealand baby this is
i think i gotta go to coconuts leadership on everybody at a pool i mean dude it's like i
might just five cent beer night at coconuts though i mean come on jello shots of coconut
yeah i mean this kind of ties into the next story that
we're talking about that there's just so much disinformation out there like from the top down
that you really like there's this tony robbins video that was getting forward around was like
kind of the most straightforward uh kind of mainstream attempt i've seen at spreading this other than like a couple
Wall Street Journal op-eds. But as you watch the video, you start to see that the people,
like he has six sources who are like, there's a doctor here. And they're like selectively using
words to be like, he's a Stanford uh medical professor he's like an assistant professor
and like you know all right he's the adjunct essentially all right he's the janitor all right
he's my nephew's ta he works in the building they don't have a single epidemiologist on the whole
list they have a nobel prize winner but he won for something totally different. He's not a doctor. Not a doctor. And it's the same
people who wrote the Wall Street Journal op-ed. So it's like there's a handful of people who are
like, the lockdown was an overreaction. This is sort of an outdated take because now we've seen
that a lot of the modeling that they were doing early on where they were
like guys this isn't that fatal a hundred thousand people are dead from it now so you have to like do
all these different basically you have to tie together all these different theories because
there's another theory that's a minnesota republican who's also a physician is saying
that like there's an incentive to over accountaccount the number of COVID-19 deaths,
which might be true maybe by a tiny fraction of a percentage,
but it's not a vast thing where this was totally made up.
But I think to say it's incentivized is different than saying,
if you're dealing with COVID patients at your hospital and their fatalities like there's there's money that is given because of the ppe
you go through and the risks involved versus like hey man say the but like that's what's so
disingenuous about a lot of these arguments is like yeah you could look at anything like that
and completely mischaracterize it but that's not the biggest yeah no the biggest argument the biggest argument is
from the right-wing media that is saying that the democrats are using this and the unemployment and
the other stuff to unseat trump that is it that is literally they're gonna that's the one that
everyone's saying that like we don't mean if your biggest doctor is dr j julius irving then you don't
have a real doctor on your board that's what i And to me, if you have to do mental gymnastics, this is true about anything in any part of your
life. If you have to do mental gymnastics to get your point across and tie together four things
that are unrelated just to make one cogent point, if it's hard to do, then chances are it's not
right. It's hard. Rasheed Wallace said it. Ball don't lie. Ball don't lie. Okay. So if it's hard to do, then chances are it's not right. It's hard. Rasheed Wallace said it. Ball don't lie.
Ball don't lie.
Okay?
So if it's out there and that's what it is, the ball don't lie.
Explain ball don't lie.
Ball don't lie is Rasheed Wallace, former basketball player.
I mean, played for many.
Portland and Detroit.
If he said if you got fouled.
If a foul got called on you and you didn't think it was supposed to be a foul,
guy goes to the free throw line and misses his shot, and and he misses the shot then he'd say ball don't lie the ball doesn't lie there wasn't a lot of the scientists in tony
robbins's study say that that's actually scientifically accurate they support rachid
wallace on on ball don't lie They mysteriously have a white patch of hair
in the back of their head.
Why can't they grow that?
Bald don't lie.
Bald don't lie.
So the one thing that I've kept coming back to
because there is this Stanford study
that was saying that the infection is more widespread
and the people who are behind the study
went on Fox News and npr and they wrote that
wall street journal op-ed that was like the most popular article on the wall street journal
for like two weeks at the beginning of the pandemic so that study is now being uh second
guests like stanford is investigating them uh it was initially partially funded by the guy who founded JetBlue, who happens to be somebody who has a lot to lose from the economic shutdown.
So it's just standard capitalism stuff where there's a political motivation
or a financial motivation.
And so you're going to find people who are willing to say anything for,
uh,
to help their financial situation.
And Tony Robbins is overall message is basically like,
guys,
like you gotta have positive thought.
You gotta be positive about this.
Don't let it get you down.
And it's like,
he's just not fully,
I think appreciating that he is giving giving QAnon exactly what they need to continue to grow and thrive.
There should be a rapper named QAnon, and nothing he says is true.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, once you mentioned that the guy from JetBlue was involved, I think we need to investigate further
and see if the person who owns the company
that makes TerraChips, if they're involved.
Like, why do they serve us this crap?
Hey, man.
Chips aren't supposed to be blue.
A TerraChips conspiracy happening as we speak.
Well, I think, you know, with Tony Robbins, though, too,
like his whole career is built off of exploiting people's fear, you know, whether that's the fear that you won't be successful or lose weight or be attractive or have money or whatever.
That's what his game is.
So he has a sixth sense to to read the air and say, oh, you're all or if my fear boner is going up.
So I know I should swoop in with like some some cool thing because I think when you're scared,
you want someone to tell you,
like, dude, it's not a big deal.
It's not a big deal.
It's like when you're in college
and you do something fucked up
and some older person's like, that's it?
Nah, dude, you're good, you're good, you're good.
And you're like, oh, right, great.
And then looking back, that was terrible advice.
So what is the, what's the, it's a great point.
What's the similarity between Tony Robbins
and Trump in a certain way?
They both are like, I have all the answers for you.
Don't worry about anything that's going on in your life.
Follow me.
And they're both like four-year-olds.
If you have little kids, you understand.
They're like four-year-olds.
They want what they want, and they don't want to be told no.
But in some cases, right now, the world is setting a limit right now.
It's setting the limit on us.
And little kids hate when you set limits on them. They hate it it hate it they fight it they tantrum they go crazy but when you're an adult and you kind of are running the show and if you're a
little four-year-old and there's no limit being set that's why you have all these people showing
up in lake lake the ozarks to hang out that's right because no one wants to do this we as a people nobody wants to quarantine we don't want to stop doing stand-up we don't want to you know have i
want to tell my 14 year old your camps canceled this summer like i don't want that but like we
have to because we're adults and we're people who have to like and when the when the adult
quote unquote in charge the main adult who's disseminating information other people says no
no no you don't have to you have to do the hard thing do the easy thing there's nothing go to
coconuts go to coconuts and go nuts and let your nuts empty out into the pool do that i mean that's
but that's what they're saying you know what i'm saying it's like they they're saying do the easy thing and satisfy
yourself immediately like you can't rather than like the discipline i mean tony robbins his other
thing is uh making people at his events walk across hot coals because of mind over matter
type shit that he like preaches uh except one time the coals were slightly too hot and 30
people had to go to the hospital on the same night um he's just like uh he's just a magician like
huckster i put that on them i put that on them they weren't being positive enough
yeah exactly he just hadn't fully uh he was having an off night they weren't sufficiently inspired
they gotta be more positive.
But remember, there's that article like a few months ago that we talked about that was talking about how fucking abusive some of these seminars with him are.
And like the weird like pyramid scheme of like paying to get his cell phone number and like the tears of like proximity you can pay for to him.
Dude.
So I wonder if like that.
This is like all the same
it's all the same and also he's a big imposing dude yeah he's like six eight so like you're six
nine he's a big dude but yeah you think about him it's the same thing with like bikram i don't know
if you watch that whole documentary about bikram the the yoga dude that guy they all it's it's all
the same country and and wow wow country the rajneeshee, man. They break you down.
They want you close to them, and they just serve up this falsity that's great.
You can't believe anything that Tony Robbins says.
But this reeks of a move of someone who gets Twitter canceled and then becomes alt-right.
This is sort of the progression for Tony Robbins, where he was able to walk this weird nebulous middle ground where people weren't quite able to put a finger on him and figure out what he was about.
And then that article came out.
I mean, I'm sure people have known this for a while, but to literally have a thing that says unmasking the science they aren't telling you on TV is like, that seems so out of balance.
That's all right.
His original personal power
bullshit he was preaching in the beginning was
like at least acknowledge science but now
this is like he's fully going to like
nah man like the secrets within my
cinder block head that I can give
to you oh boy sign
up now it kind of makes you take another
look at shallow hell
right exactly
100% shallow hell is unimpeachable in my book
but it always will be you mean the bible but yeah this is i i feel like this just kind of goes back
to you know this is a stress test for america and it's coming at the like sickest that American democracy and capitalism
and anything has ever
been like where we have the worst
leadership and so like Tony
Robbins was a
acceptable like
idea to put out there that
like you could just
positive thinking your way out
of anything and like
he was getting people to pay him like a hundred thousand dollars a
year just to let them hang out with him,
like to go on his flight with him and shit.
So yeah,
when you have a culture that like accommodates and even like,
you know,
lionizes,
uh,
scam artists,
and then you have a stress test like this,
scam artists are going to be what you get
like that's just how that's how it works it's it's also don't lie it's also about rule following
which so much of this is like following rules and it's like it's like if somebody were to say look
at that stop sign over there there's no one on either side i'm just gonna blow through it i don't
care but what if you don't see the car that is coming through the other way and you wind up hitting some
like we can't just not follow rules when we like just pick and choose the ones we want to follow
because there's an order to things and like this whole thing has taught us like you were saying we
are so interconnected that the dipshits down at coconuts do have an effect on everybody else they just do
yeah to the point where like the the health director of the state of missouri was like
everybody who is at coconuts should quarantine for two weeks just so you know if you were there
isolate for two but you think they will but will they you think they will everyone at coconuts
should be fighting to the death at coconutsuts. Yeah, exactly. Stay there.
Exactly.
Look, we don't have sports.
We're going to watch all of you fight until half of you are dead.
And the winner will get just two coconuts filled with rum.
Our new sports is just watching people chicken fight at Coconuts.
They're like, yo, bring up that live cam.
Watch the chicken fights at Coconuts, man.
These people are out of their heads.
They're like, yo, bring up that live cam.
Watch the chicken fights the coconuts, man.
These people are out of their heads.
But the last thing I'll say about Tony Robbins is like with American culture, especially, right?
Like we're taught that like you shouldn't need help.
Like if you need help, something's wrong with you and pull yourself up by our bootstraps.
And Tony Robbins is in a perfect place because what he does is he sells illusory bootstraps to people.
He says, oh, you seem like a person who could really probably pick themselves
up by the bootstraps right now.
Can I interest you in my bootstraps I sell people
so they can have this self-belief?
Not to say that self-improvement is bad or negative
because I've benefited tremendously
from taking my own self-well-being
and my own mental well-being into account.
But this is like a thing
though that really preys upon the american psyche in a specific way of like i should be rich i should
be famous i should be fucking anybody everywhere and i should have nine billion cars and vacations
why don't i have that tony robbins helped me for this very specific american capitalistic problem
and then he's there there it is tony robbins is the fire festival if
the fire festival was a person that's what he is he's the he's the ad he's the ad for the fire
festival that went out that's who he is like i'll promise you everything or maybe america is the fire
festival and tony robbins is jaw rule yeah tony robbins i mean that's why we were obsessed that's
why we were obsessed with the fire festival um robbins's jaw rule. I mean, that's why we were obsessed. That's why we were obsessed with the Fyre Festival.
Tony Robbins' jaw rule with slightly whiter teeth.
Yeah.
I'll watch that movie, Tony Robbins as jaw rule in the Fyre Festival.
I'm so in.
So in.
In House on Fire, F-Y-R-E.
And without any problematic blackface.
None.
Yeah, done.
Right.
Jimmy Fallon.
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And we're back. And in an overall big week for Karen's racist white ladies. So the big one that uh is sort of evolving as we record is a woman by the name
of amy cooper uh an investment banker which i had always had the highest respect for them i couldn't
believe nothing predatory about that at all so moral so moral right so she called 9-1 called 911 to report an African-American man threatening her life,
but he was recording her. He was just a birder who doesn't like when people have their dogs
off their leash in Central Park because they eat birds. And so he was saying,
could you put your... Just the most calm reasonable yeah there was a request there's a sign that says your
dog has to be leased again it goes back to following the rule that is just a rule just a
rule because he likes watching birds dogs scare away ground birds also i think he was saying that
a lot of people in that part of central park the ramble like they that people have invested in a
lot of like flora and fauna there to like make it nice and when you have dogs there just run the plants will not grow if they shit and
piss everywhere so just you can but you can have your dog there just put on your leash yeah just
on a leash right that's it yeah uh all he was asking uh she then basically threatened to uh
murder him by police uh and 911. Basically attempted to.
It was like,
there is an African-American man
threatening my life.
Please come fast.
But no, the way it devolves
is what's truly despicable.
Terrible.
I will say this.
At the very beginning,
apparently,
I think he was offering her dog a treat,
which to me,
if someone offered,
I'd be like,
get the fuck away from my dog.
Or I would politely be like,
yeah, thank you.
No, thank you.
My dog will die if it eats anything that wasn't pre masticated from my
mouth.
So sorry.
And that is true about your dog,
right?
It is.
It is true that I've mapped onto him.
But like,
so I think that was,
I think it started off a bit contentiously.
So I won't like really knock her for whatever her energy was in the
beginning.
But the second she says, well, you know what?
I'm going to call the police and say an African-American man is threatening me, which is she knows what she's saying.
She just said, I will get the cops to kill you and you know it can happen.
So now she said she says it twice.
She says if she's saying an African-American man just to describe who he is, that's one thing.
But then she says it again
with emphasis she's like an african-american i.e dog whistle bring everything you can to take this
guy i've seen what the police do to african-american men get down here and beat this guy that's what
she's saying meanwhile her dog she's choking her dog out as this is happening.
The dog is like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
The dog even has the correct energy.
She's going down so hard. And it's like, actually, it's so beautiful to see how hard she's going down.
Well, but because because, look, I was as I was watching it, I was trying to say, well,
let me see.
Is there any is there even the slightest bit of sympathy you can have for this woman? And the answer is no, because she had so many choices
that she, conscious choices that she made along that path, that she could have chosen another
option that wouldn't put her in this thing. My favorite is her shaking her fist at the guy with
the leash in it that should have been on the dog. Well, that's like lifting her dog, actually,
as she raised her fist. Well, I mean, I would just, what happened to the good old New York, that should have been on the dog i'm like that's like lifting her dog actually yeah yeah right well
i mean i would just what happened to the good old new york fuck you and then just keep walking with
your dog you don't have to listen hey mind your fucking business pal hey fucking eat eat out my
dog's asshole you motherfucker and then you don't care about who's you don't care so that's not race
dependent that's just a new york asshole who walks around and doesn't care.
I'm a dick.
Leave me alone.
I'm a dick.
So what?
By the way, in New York, that means have a great day.
But this is just so clearly, this is, you know, like a lot of people even on Twitter would say,
it's like, okay, if you're like a lot of women on Twitter saying,
if I was ever in a situation where I was going to call the police because I felt a man was threatening me,
I'm not going to stick around to figure out what's happening like that's not how
i do things and i think that's why you can tell this is a case of i will not be told what to do
by this black man and so if you want to take it there if you want to keep playing cards like okay
yes maybe the rules and regulations of the park are on your side but i don't want to cop to that
so now let me like start like escalating it into this really petty game of
like,
why I can be more dangerous than you.
And I agree with that a hundred percent,
but I do think we do need to state for one second.
We are four dudes.
We don't know what it is like to be a woman in certain situations and feel
have fear and feel threatened in their own way,
whether it's real or proceed or,
or fake.
However, that's a very right point. Got to get away away if that's an issue and that's a problem and you
actually do feel threatened take your dog and go somewhere else like it's a giant park right and i
don't mean to say victim blame it's like well then you could have left lady but it's clear from the
interaction you weren't they weren't concerned for your safety you wanted to intimidate this guy
by he wasn't charging at her.
I'll weaponize my whiteness and you could die.
So get the fuck away from me. So why is it that as a white man, I watch that video and I have deep fear for the African-American dude?
I have deep fear that the police are going to come and take her side.
I have deep fear that the police are going to come and take her side.
Like there's this air of injustice that exists out in the world that I myself, I'm like, dude, you better get out of there.
Because I don't know.
And you shouldn't have to get out of there.
But I fear for his safety.
And that is the feeling that I have.
I can't fake that feeling.
No, because I think it's a pattern that we all recognize,
and it's a pattern she recognized.
We can escalate this where law enforcement can appear,
and just like Emmett Till back in the day when someone was saying,
this black man is doing something to me,
this is just a pattern that is ingrained in the fabric of the society.
So we know how it plays out been filming her like
imagine what what which is another interesting thing there was a public defender on twitter
who was saying like this like they're like i try cases so many times in new york where someone just
has a frantic 911 call as their evidence that the other person was an aggressor and right people
will be like i didn't do anything and there's like very rarely do we have this other side of the camera or the of an incident where there are people who can just weaponize like a
911 call against someone and the conclusion like oh you're being disruptive or whatever i don't
know what happened but i got a call and i'm here and you're i think this stuff gets taught to people
i have two daughters 12 and 14 and i would never teach them to use that sort of a to weaponize that like you have to like
teach your people or they see that modeled in their parents or whoever's like their guardian
and that that that gets passed down I just don't think you fully form as a human being and start
to like if that wasn't taught to you that's who you are yeah well I think and also too like as
much as you know there's a fear obviously living in a patriarchal society like this.
Of course, there's men are the predators in this culture.
And unfortunately, too, for being African-American, merely existing can give the air of being a predator to someone who is ignorant.
who is ignorant. So I think on top of that, we have to challenge our children and parents to also really teach children to see the humanity of a person first, rather than being like,
what can I glean off of this appearance first? And then A, B, C, D, D, and let all those dots
connect that end could end tragically. There's a way to be safe and there's a way to be smart
and there's a way to be aware. And then there's a way, and you can also be nice.
And also have it, look, maybe she's an extremely anxious person. and there's a way to be aware. And then there's a way, and you can also be nice. Like,
and also have it.
Look,
you,
maybe she's an extremely anxious person.
I don't know who this woman is.
Maybe her anxiety levels go way higher than what say are normal levels.
I'm not even going to,
I don't want to say normal,
but like what,
what everyone else,
like I guess the standard levels,
her anxiety peaks at a really high level.
That's in her own internal makeup.
But if that's the case, then go away go away then go then grab your dog and go this guy wasn't charging at
her this guy wasn't like threatening her this guy wasn't saying like oh yeah you're gonna call the
cops i'll fuck you up no one said anything like that it's like you know like if you're gonna call
the cops i will now produce counter evidence so i don't get arrested because this could go.
And also I will produce the kind of evidence that will ruin your life.
Yeah.
She got that dog.
Her dog got taken away.
Taken away?
Yeah.
It was a rescue.
She returned the dog.
She got fired.
And she is probably going to be banned from Central Park.
So, yeah.
I mean, it's one of those instances where social media justice, I'm okay with it.
I'll allow it, Your Honor.
Yeah, she did just get hired by Tony Robbins.
Which is weird.
Why did that?
Working on an investment, yeah, investment series.
Yeah, and then there's just another incident.
I mean, and just sort of back to the unfettered violence
against black people in this country.
You know, a man in Minnesota was killed by the police
while having a knee placed on the back of his neck.
And he died later of a medical emergency.
But based on him screaming that he could not breathe
and begging for them to not kill him,
it seemed like he was in a very bad place.
And again, this is the theme.
Like, you don't need to be savvy
it's just it's like a fucking it this is just the patterns that were unfortunately uh unable to
break uh and then there's another woman in humboldt california this woman greta stanger who was
holding up a sign at like a open up the economy you know like let's cosplay as the oppressed
uh rallies that they had and she was holding up
a photo of uh like a historical illustration of a slave with some kind of like covering over their
mouth this woman and it says muzzles or are for dogs and slaves i am a free human being that was
the sign she held now i will have you known slaves are people, but I get what you're trying to do is really just, not dog whistle, just fully be out there saying, I'm white.
I'm not a slave.
Speaking of dog whistle, that dog just heard it.
Yeah.
Heard what you just said.
My dog is very agitated now. This is a pretty kind of famous image of this Brazilian slave woman named Anastasia, who the story around this image is that the mistress of this woman ordered like this spiked torture device be put around her face and mouth and like neck out of jealousy because her husband would not stop raping this slave.
And like, it's a very, very dark image african slavery but this woman's like i don't
know like i want to go to buffalo wild wings like exactly and this woman uh used to work as a now
get this she worked at north coast preparatory academy a top-ranked charter school where she
directed plays this is she's a theater teacher and i say worked because she lost her damn job and thank god her
explanation is really again shows you the level of like i think like well shouldn't i i get i get
some leeway right as a white person it says holding that sign up at the lockdown protest
was a grave mistake and i ask forgiveness from all those who have caused pain as i had no sign
of my own it was handed to be handed to me by another
protester and a photographer took the picture before i considered the racist implications
that's the that is the that is the modern day version of it wasn't me or my twitter feed got
hacked my twitter feed yeah that's why i said someone handed me the sign and i look i i think
it's possible because there was a photo of someone else holding that sign at this rally. But you should even for a second consider what you are what you're holding up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's look back into this.
Let's look back into this woman's history again.
It's like, yeah, she's she teaches plays at the school that like the principal's like, no, we're not doing Amistad again.
OK.
Right.
No, no, no.
But imagine this an all white version.
Yes.
Oh, yeah. no no no but imagine this an all-white version yeah it's like oh yeah but i think this is the thing we also realize too is like we look at these images of seemingly harmless people too
acting out these like really ignorant tendencies in public spaces that could put people in harm
and they're also the people who are teaching your kids who are are maybe working at a bank or something, who have people
who work underneath them that are African-American or whatever, what have you, anything, not white.
And it's always interesting to know, what are the reverberations of those people in those places to
everyone around them? And I think that's why when a lot of people are like, oh, I don't know if...
And it's a lot for these people to lose their jobs and things like that. But we have not had a reckoning with racism in this country.
So these are the smallest victories we can carve out because we've not had a full-scale
societal reckoning with our past of slavery.
If you walk into your boss's office and call him or her an asshole, you get fired.
Okay?
You get fired from your job.
You essentially did that to an entire race of people and You get fired from your job. You essentially did that to an entire race of people
and you got fired from your job.
There are consequences
for your actions.
Yeah.
And once you realize that,
then, you know,
now you have someone else
to blame for this.
Okay?
You're going to blame everybody
for getting you fired.
But like,
I think it's good
for everyone to shout her
back down into her hole.
Like, you don't get to come out. I'm sorry. You go right back down into her hole. You don't get to come out.
I'm sorry.
You go right back down in that hole, and you don't come out.
And we're going to keep jumping on until you can't see daylight again.
And that's it.
Also, this is a completely side issue, but also worth noting that these protests have people just handing out signs for other protesters to hold up, which is something we saw with the Tea Party
and tends to be a hallmark of astroturfed protests
that are organized by the Koch brothers.
I mean, just the sign itself,
even if there were no image, right?
The words, muzzles are for dogs and slaves.
I am a free human being.
Right. So you're free human being. Right.
So you're not a slave.
So you're someone who would own a slave is what you're saying.
You're not dog megaphoning at that point.
No.
Well, Randy, Jason, it has been a pleasure having you guys on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Where can people find you, follow you, hear you?
Well, first of all, thank you.
Love it.
We'll come back and do this anytime thank you. Love it. We'll come
back and do this anytime. You guys are awesome. We'll have you guys come to our podcast we do
with Daniel Van Kirk called Done People Town. You guys would be perfect on dumb behavior. We
break it down. We believe the world's getting dumber. As ocean levels rise, IQ levels are going
down. So two things. We have a daily podcast called Scalabro Country, the virus edition that
we talked about where we cover
a lot of the stuff, similar stuff as you guys
and I think your listeners will really dig
that. It's, you know,
we have video of it on our YouTube
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can subscribe to that and see the videos or just listen
to it wherever you get podcasts. It's a half
an hour every day, 25 minutes to a half an
hour of just giving you a chance to
breathe. Two insane stories of stupidity within the world that's going on right now and our take
on it and then next thursday june 4th we're gonna do a stand-up show we have not done stand-up out
into the world as much but we're doing a stand-up show on at the nowhere comedy club but yeah
coconuts what's up lake of the ozarks. No, it's a place called the Nowhere
Comedy Club. It's like a giant Zoom meeting. They only have 390 tickets. And once those are sold
out, it's 390 people on a Zoom call. We do stand up right where we are right now. And we can hear
the laughter. It is so cool. It's the closest thing to doing stand-up in the real world. That's next Thursday.
That's June 4th at 7 p.m. West Coast time, 10 p.m. Eastern time.
You can get your tickets at eventbrite.com
and look up Night of a Thousand Sklars.
Dan Van Kirk's going to do 20 minutes of comedy in that show,
but it's going to be a blast.
That's next Thursday, June 4th,
and we'd love for anybody who's listening to this thing
to come check it out. Awesome. I think we are still strong with you guys i think you're gonna say
daniel's gonna do 20 minutes of walberg a tight a tight 20 of how walberg's just been working out
during the coronavirus he's gained he's gained 80 pounds of muscle. Yeah. Is there a tweet you guys have been enjoying
or some other work of social media?
What have you been enjoying tweet-wise, Jay?
Anything?
I love everything from the Super 70 sports.
Super 70 sports is amazing.
It's just for some reason it like hits us.
We did our old show Cheap Seats on ESPN Classic,
which was watching old weird sporting events.
So good.
Super 70 sports just gets it right.
So many times they show you an image.
They show you like a little video,
something from back in the day.
Oh,
the other thing that I'm digging so much,
so much on Instagram is house of highlights.
Also highlights.
Holy smokes.
House of highlights is it's the coolest,
like the woman in the Haji,
like dribbling and just deking that kid out and doing that crazy reverse.
I was like, I showed it to my girls.
It made me cry.
And the last thing I'll say is Snoop Dogg sitting in his car and singing Let It Go by Frozen made me cry with joy.
And I'll only say this because Snoop's the best.
We met him a couple times.
He was a fan
of cheap seats we met him after the roast battle at at house of blues and he was judging and we
were right behind like feeding him and sarah silverman some jokes and stuff for the whole
thing we go upstairs to the green room afterwards and he's of course puffing on like legal weed guys
legal but he passed he passed it around.
And of course, when he passes, you got to partake.
All I know is I got into the car service to drive me home.
I went from Sunset and La Cienega.
And when I got to Sunset and La Brea, that's one mile.
That's one mile. I forgot what I did that night.
He smoked seven full joints.
I forgot where I was.
I forgot what I did.
I'm like, this must have come
from bob marley's grave so i i love snoop so much and when i saw him just in his car singing let it
go and then him just acknowledging that he's just like man let it go man i'm in my i'm in my fucking
car singing let it go and we just gotta let it go and then he looks down he's like we'll be outside
soon i just loved it and i I love him. So that was,
that was the best thing I've seen.
That's amazing.
Miles,
who is the Snoop dog of podcasting in his ability to smoke anybody under the
table?
Uh,
me and Gabrus,
I think I have to go head to head for that title.
Yeah.
Uh,
you can find me Twitter,
Instagram,
PlayStation network,
miles of gray,
a shout out to everybody who's been playing Red Dead with me and GTA.
It's nice that we can somehow congregate and move freely in a fake world of the West or fictitious Los Angeles.
Some tweets that I like.
First one is from Mamadou N'Diaye.
It says, white people give me the hebert gberts
so true and another one and then another one is uh from darelust it says psychology majors be like
damn i can't even be mad at you because i know why you reacted the way you did. It's kind of an old tweet format
I've seen come back around again, but
every time I see it, sometimes
I wish there were people that were that
healthy to be like, hmm,
interesting. I completely understand where you're
coming from. Okay, fantastic.
I think I'm trying
to think, is there a rapper who freaks out
if he is even
a little bit high and like starts
thinking about what to do with his hands i'm trying to think a rapper that does that for for
me yeah because you're the snoop dog of yeah nah i think those rappers oh man i'm so inside my head
rappers never they hate to tell people they don't smoke weed it's like a weird thing and they hate
saying that they don't drink and like you have to literally like prod them or put like alcohol in their hand before they go
oh actually i don't drink and you're like what the fuck but in your songs oh oh dude do it what
about oh but not 90s rap don't smoke buddha can't stand sex it takes two to make a thing go right. That used to be a thing that they would rap about.
I forgot that lyric.
Anyways,
Ellie Bell tweeted, for whom the Baja blasts.
Marks Jane
tweeted, I love them little free
plants outside Walmart and Home Depot.
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What's that going to be today?
Oh, I mean, based on the vibes at coconuts, I mean, summer is here.
And this track is from Metronomy, which is, you know, like lo-fi instrumental music.
But this track is called Summer Jam.
And it feels, I don't know, like when I listen to it, it sounds like music that would be like in a character select screen, like in an old PlayStation 1 game or Game Boy game.
Or even just like if you were a sim, like what would be playing in your house as you make breakfast.
But I don't know.
There's something very comforting about this track.
So Metronomy, Summer Jam.
And it does feel summery at the same time.
It's very weirdly.
I think it just speaks to our times.
There's like an artificial aesthetic that still feels relatable.
So that's what we got.
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