The Daily Zeitgeist - Pelosi Vs. Progress, Life In An Amazon Town 9.30.21

Episode Date: September 30, 2021

In episode 999, Jack and Miles are joined by host of the Ridiculous Romance Podcast Diana Banks to discuss the how progressives won't budge, YouTube FINALLY banning vaccine misinformation? Amazons co...mpany times, Halloween candies by state and more!FOOTNOTES: Progressives Won't Budge Oh wow, YouTube FINALLY banning vaccine misinformation? Amazon Can Fuck Right Off With These Company Towns Most popular Halloween candies by state St. Panther - Problems Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:40 out of lockdown, what's the price to come now? So for you, this is just a good time, but for me this is what i call life oh oh my god claudette ortiz my biggest crush on my life from city high yeah shout out to locker running for that wonderful what would you do inspired ak what would you do i gotta write that down because i've never heard that song i don't think you remember that from city high no what would you do if it's down crying on the bedroom floor oh okay yeah and the only way to feed him is to sleep with his man for a little bit of money because his daddy's gone okay i think i do i have heard that okay good anyways i i really enjoyed your rendition thank you thank you i'm
Starting point is 00:04:22 honored to be a sonic equivalent of Claudette. And happy International Podcast Day to you as well, sir. Thank you so much. Happy International Podcast Day to you as well. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a producer of comedy and theater at the Twin Head Theater in Atlanta. She's the organizer of the annual Atlanta Fringe Festival. She is one of the hosts of the wildly entertaining podcast Ridiculous Romance. Please welcome Diana Banks! Hey! Wish I had a song, but I did not prepare one.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Hey, happy International Podcast Day to you, first and foremost. Should we sing the official International Podcast carol? What is it? Lock the gates male male kimp that one part of that male commercial that doesn't even male kimp doesn't even really make sense as a mispronunciation but no hey that's how they got us to remember it. Do I use the service?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Hell no. Diana, what's good? You were in Atlanta? Yeah. Yeah. How is Atlanta these days? Beautiful. It's like the part of the year that the weather is absolutely perfect.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And you're like, this is why I live here. And then probably in a couple of days, it'll be really hot and buggy again. And then it'll be cold and, but not snowy. So what's the, what's Atlanta's best season? Fall for sure. Everything happens between Labor Day and Halloween. And then everybody stays inside the rest of the year. Okay. So this is it. You're, you're in the thick of it right now. Oh yeah. But the Fringe Festival I do is in the summertime and it's like so hot.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It's like, why are you making me do this? It's worth it. Awesome. Well, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the continuing negotiation happening in uh washington dc uh progressives are uh refusing to budge nancy pelosi is you know just very budge happy she you know friction free she just wants to let let it get let it go let it flow uh we're going to talk about YouTube. Finally heard about... Have you guys heard this? That there's vaccine misinformation on YouTube? That doesn't sound like a thing.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Breaking news in the YouTube headquarters and they have finally decided to do something about it. We're also going to talk about another mega corporation by the name of Amazon. They are planning, already have started in a couple cases, some company towns, which if you don't know the history of company towns in America,
Starting point is 00:07:14 yeah, hold on to your butts. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about, you know, it is that time of year again where we get a colorful map breaking down the united states by preferred candy halloween candy uh so we'll check in with that all of that plenty more but first diana we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history oh a lot of my search history is helen keller stuff right now because that's our next episode of Ridiculous Romance. But also, I did look up a lot of stuff about soaking. Have you thought about it on Twitter?
Starting point is 00:07:53 I also had a soaking AKA that I could have sang this morning, but I wasn't sure how up on soaking everyone was. Wait, are you serious? You had a soaking AK? Yeah, someone wrote a soaking AK because there's something popped off on Reddit
Starting point is 00:08:09 and then on 90 Day Fiance, there's a cast member who's Mormon and then I started talking about soaking on that. But go on, please, Diane. Enlighten the class. Well, soaking, as you say, is a Mormon, I guess, a Mormon practice. But they're trying to figure out how to have sex like Mormon teens are trying to figure out how to have sex without offending God.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And so they've decided what they can do is put a penis in a vagina, but not move because it's the friction that is the sex part. So they just kind of slide it in and hang out in there and call it soaking. It must be fun for everybody. Yeah. And then the reason I saw it was because someone was talking about jump pumping, which is when two teens that are soaking will invite a friend over to jump on the bed
Starting point is 00:09:01 so that they can get a little friction happening, but they are not doing it, so they're not actually sinning. That can't be true. Is that real? It was like a viral TikTok. That's amazing. I was like, first of all, that's a threesome, and second of all, God
Starting point is 00:09:17 knows what you're doing. Once you breach the palace gates, I believe God is upset at that point. I don't think it's a matter of how many times the battering ram is knocking on the gate. I was like, maybe he's more offended, honestly. Yeah, it's like, you think I'm stupid. I'd even do it, right?
Starting point is 00:09:39 Right. This was funny because... You pulled the wool over my eyes? Right. Oh my God. I was speculating on a 420 Day Fiance like that with that idea. Remember like those like vibrating massage beds? You put a quarter in and start shaking like were those designed by Mormons?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Right. Because I was always a little confused by that. That like, yeah, that that seems to add a lot of if you refuse to move yourself, then that would be useful. So yeah, maybe it is the SoCAC. SoCAC. It would be so strange if you do move normally in sex, why would you want a vibrating bed?
Starting point is 00:10:15 Right. It wouldn't throw you off. Yeah. It seems, it seems strange. Yeah. Like I, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:21 especially if you're just normally having your friend come over to jump on the bed or like shake you guys around a little bit. Why would you need a vibrating bed? What does the friend do? Like, you're like, hey, put these AirPods in. Right. And they're like under the covers, I imagine, because they're Mormons. So probably all the way up to the, you know, their head.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And then the friends just jump in on the bed. Like the friend, like a freak. And he's just like, like bent over, like just over you, like jumping him down. Yeah. Y'all are nasty. Wait for my first soak. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I mean, you have to imagine that a teenage friend around the age of people who are engaging and soaking would be the last person you could trust to be discreet and not look. That seems like they kind of all go together. Be like, no, it's cool. He's not going to look. He's not going to look. We're all good. And then is it orgy,
Starting point is 00:11:20 like a bunch of people in a bounce house and then somebody just wiling out, jumping in there? One soaking couple in the middle and everyone else oh that's that's called rough sex it's like a mormon gangbang i guess or something wow yeah let us know the hacks you know if the what other soak hacks are there yeah soaking for for days and days on the san andreas fault line just waiting for oh for the next, for the big one to come. That's patience.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah. Yeah. If you're a soaking seismologist, let us know. I mean, in that case, God is actually the one doing the movement. So you could kind of. Yeah. I thought you wanted me to have sex. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:01 If you didn't want me to have sex, then. Yeah. I saw one comment about it that i was like true where they were like but when when if if it's the friction when you put it in and then eventually i assume take it out is that not one sex i will have one sex please sir yes that does seem does that not count does the intern exit part not count i know yeah that's that's what's funny like what's the i'm really i would almost want to sit down with like a teenager who's telling me why it's okay yeah yeah same like what like show me what a pump looks like
Starting point is 00:12:37 that you would say that's bad and then let me break down for you that those movements are included in the soaking that you're doing. Yes, that's that's where I think, yeah, you and I should conduct an interview or something. As your attorney, I would advise that you not do that. Yeah, I probably won't talk to underage people about sex acts in any way. Yeah, sure. But I'll take that. I'll take that advice this time. Way to make sense. take that i'll take that advice this time that's great way to make sense yeah i do wonder if any parent has ever like walked in on a soaking act and like had the couple like try to justify it to them we were being perfectly still i'm praying with her mother go away i'm praying at the moment
Starting point is 00:13:21 please yes what is something that you think is overrated, Diana? So many things, really. I would say sheet masks, if you know what I'm talking about, like a skincare product. The sheet masks that are in those little pouches. Yeah. Rip it and you pull it out and you kind of lay it on your face and you look like a weirdo. I hate them. I think they're trending way too much.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I think they're not useful. They drip all over you they're not fun to wear i don't understand them just a little bottle and do your face and let it quick slowly tighten over time that's what i like to do we've talked before on the show about those masks i i have pitched them as a great mask for a stalker slasher movie because they are truly terrifying. I've definitely been frightened by them just walking into my bedroom
Starting point is 00:14:13 and my wife turns around and looks... Yeah, it really does work as a horrifying... If somebody walked in with one of those on it would it would really yeah it reminds me i vividly am reminded of like that scene in the cable guy where they go to medieval times and jim carrey puts all the chicken skin on his face and he's like silence that or the other one which is what's that movie the brendan fraser baseball movie with albert brooks where he's the pitcher uh the phenom or something yeah uh and in that one there's like a scene where he puts a torch yeah the rookie that he actually
Starting point is 00:14:57 like he puts a tortilla on his face and that also reminds me of it so i don't know or the scout it's the scout the scout there we go. That old Albert Einstein. Tortillas. That's what they kind of because they're just kind of hanging off. They don't mold to your face. Yeah. And they look weird. One year, our theater company for a parade did Depression era Halloween costumes, which
Starting point is 00:15:17 if you want to go on a weird Google image search, they're literally like burlap sacks with holes in them. So they look so terrifying and then like a few months later they were all on a plane doing one of those white face masks and did a little selfie and i was like you look exactly could have worn that for halloween so that's exactly like a freshman era halloween terrifying costume right now yeah historical halloween costumes just across the border very Very frightening. But yeah, depression era in particular. It's only.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah. They, they remind me of, um, they're sort of the skincare equivalent of the Michael Myers mask, which is like, you know, there's lots of like drama theory around,
Starting point is 00:16:01 you know, you have the, the like happy mask, the sad sad mask and then like the neutral mask and the neutral mask allows you to like project whatever is inside you like onto that mask which is why keanu reeves is so successful is because he is a human neutral mask but yeah the, it's just blankness that you can put, project whatever horror is existing here online. But you can turn it up because they print designs on them now for more fun. You know what I mean? Like I've seen some where it'll be like a frog face or like a kabuki mask or some shit.
Starting point is 00:16:40 When I was in Japan, there was like all kinds of graphic ones, I think, just to bring a little bit of fun to the face mask game yeah that makes it sound worse yeah maybe i don't know kabuki mask turnaround and that would be more more comfortable i don't know yeah i don't think there's any way to get used to it i think the thing i identified the most of what you said was when it drips like because like you, they're supposed to be hype, you know, very hydrated. But then I remember the last time I put one on, it just was kept going down my neck.
Starting point is 00:17:11 And I was like, I hated that feeling. And it feels awful. Yes. And then I don't know my, a lot of my skincare concerns are around my jawline and they, you know, they don't mold to your face.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I feel like I'm just like, it's just hanging off and I'm just unhappy. I don't feel like I'm taking care of myself at all. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, man, I had a hard time with this one, actually. I'm still on a Depression-era horror mask, by the way. What? You're still on Depression-era Halloween costumes costume. You'll have to excuse me.
Starting point is 00:17:46 You're like, Jack's like, I'm sorry. I haven't been listening this entire time. I'm still looking at these masks. Like we're ending the show. They are good though. If you want a scary costume,
Starting point is 00:17:55 just go back to history and get one of their weird cheap things. You will look like a horror show. Oh yeah. Um, I think, you know, what's underrated is hanging out without having anything specific to do. I feel like,
Starting point is 00:18:08 you know, I'm in my thirties, so I feel like people have a harder time hanging out. So they're always like, well, let's get together and do something specific dinner, a movie, a thing,
Starting point is 00:18:18 whatever. And if you don't like, I don't always have something on my mind that I want to do, but I'm like, there's people I want to spend time with. And I wish it was easier to kind of be like, can we just like sit together quietly? I don't always have something on my mind that I want to do, but I'm like, there's people I want to spend time with. And I wish it was easier to kind of be like, can we just sit together quietly? I don't know. Not have anything specific going on.
Starting point is 00:18:32 We're just hanging out. Yeah, that's a great call. I really like that idea of hanging out without an agenda. look at how my relationships evolved like from my 20s or teens into my 30s is like most of the time we were hanging out with no fucking agenda ever and then there's this weird thing of getting older where like your time seems more precious and like things have to get done but then some of the best times you have are just hanging out with somebody they come over and you fucking do nothing maybe you look at fucking a couple youtube videos and laugh at some shit or whatever and then you're like damn that was that was great i didn't have to think of anything we could just be you know immature or
Starting point is 00:19:15 just be in our in each other's company yeah totally and you have to like get a head count for a dinner reservation or whatever you know like just like just no plans. I just want to see you. You're my plan. I'm very bad at doing that, but I really want to get it together. What's the plan, Diana? You are my plan. Okay. I'll take a reach.
Starting point is 00:19:37 You're the meal. I'm going to devour you. All right. I guess I'll adjust my invitation. What's on your face? Don't worry't worry we're gonna have a great time what are you projecting that's on my face what do you think is on my face yeah gender-free hangouts you know or no plan hangouts i love that yeah let's get it back because what was like what would you do yeah jack you know like in your like i feel like college
Starting point is 00:20:05 right is truly i mean aside from being like we're gonna drink or something yeah there was still just like what are you doing right now like just chilling they're like all right i'm gonna come through yeah yeah great cool thanks yeah i'm like my house is dirty or something like don't worry who cares if you're a friend you don't i don't care what your house looks like i've ever said that in my life i like that i love a world where i think about that too i think that just reveals that your house is never as dirty as mine is because i don't know well look i'll do a panic clean i just gave up a long time ago we're all prone to a last minute cleanup before somebody comes over right yeah well this is why i miss having parties because having a party was such a great excuse to like
Starting point is 00:20:51 clean right yeah like cool let's have a party just because we'll get the house together but now we don't have parties anymore because you know yeah and then just low-key like judge your friends who don't clean up before they leave they Wow. They're like, yeah, I got to go. They're like, you brought all this shit, and it's a mess. P.S. Yeah. But you're just going to, okay. All right. See you then.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Well, all right. And then you have, like, that new friend who's like, let me help you clean up. You're like, I never expected you to be. Wow. Yeah. I love you now. The one time Miles came to my house, he and Ana both were, like, hung around and cleaned up after and oh yeah well yeah that was immediately became sarah's favorite favorite person yeah yeah because we were just like i'm
Starting point is 00:21:31 sorry man i can't let this uh our mother's voices are ripping through our heads right now there's no way i could leave watching someone else clean yeah me and my wife just watched you we're just yeah yeah there's a little bit over there in the corner yeah but you're gesturing to the bathroom like yeah yeah someone made a mess in there if you don't mind this becomes
Starting point is 00:21:54 a little bit easier when you have kids if the other people have kids because then you just call it a play date but it just means like your kids are running around chasing each other while you sit back but that is also a pretense right that uh they have to have kids which is limiting and i say jack let's have a play date and you're like get a kid get a kid bro and you're like all right give me 15 minutes all right let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk news.
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Starting point is 00:26:03 the right seat. Brought to you by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the Ad Council. And we're back and things are continuing to develop in Congress. The reaction to Nancy Pelosi's decision to decouple the infrastructure bill and the 3.5 trillion reconciliation bill has ramped up. People are predictably not psyched. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it started off just being like, yeah, maybe we'll vote on them separately. That just, again, was not going to fly with the progressive caucus. She tried to then sort of disingenually suggest that, like, well, we got to do the bipartisan bill first. Like, we got to do it like way quicker because it might jeopardize highway funding. That wasn't true. And just like a very weird thing to say. And I think a lot of progressives felt that they were going to do the same thing that's been happening for
Starting point is 00:27:00 many years with the Progressive Caucus, which is they have real concerns. They try and exert some leverage, but they won't have enough votes to do it. Nancy Pelosi will then be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. More on that later. Wave them out of the room and deliver a very watered down bill that like a lot of activists and progressives are like this fucking misses the whole point. Like you just did this to pat yourself on the back. Like we actually need to change things fundamentally. And every time we get to a point to do this, we get tossed aside and then it's in service of a larger corporate agenda. And this is, you know, they feel that that's happening again. And this time things are just very different. There's possibly possibly up to 34 Democrats that will tank the bipartisan bill because, you know, as we record, they're scheduled to vote on this today. And if that were to happen, I don't see how that passes without those votes, because there's only a three vote margin that the Democrats have. And then if you even get some Republicans who want the bipartisan sticker on their report card
Starting point is 00:28:01 for the midterms, which is what all these other centrists want, it's still going to be really difficult. And I just want to say, again, there's a reason why they're putting up such a big fight over this $3.5 trillion build back better, whatever big baller brand act thing. Alliteration is very important when it comes to policy. I know. Rather than just saying very clearly, the thing that will make your life easier, it's things like paid family leave, expanded child tax credits,
Starting point is 00:28:30 universal pre-K, free community college, expanding Medicare to cover vision and dental, like actual, you know, a legit effort to try and combat climate change. This is why like,
Starting point is 00:28:42 you know, progressives are like, yeah, this is the version that really needs to go. Okay, how are you going to pay for that? Come on. Okay, how are we going to pay for that? Here's how we're going to pay for that. Because you want more, you want some more change?
Starting point is 00:28:53 This is what it could be. Closing tax loopholes for private equity managers and wealthy heirs. Increasing the corporate tax rate. Raising the top individual tax rate. Imposing a 3% surtax on income over $5 million, increasing better tax enforcement with the IRS to go after fucking people who've just been letting money blow in the wind, and allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices. And we already saw that
Starting point is 00:29:16 last bit, what corporate Democrats were doing saying like, Oh, yeah, I'm against this. Because well, hold on, let me let me let the lobbyist tell me what i'm why because it will stifle private sector innovation and they will oh you had a you had an answer for that i i usually just say how you pay for it and uh yeah conversation shit yeah this is the whole platform and that's why this is so important like because progressives are like you can't keep doing this thing where you promise people a bunch of shit in the in the pursuit of office and then not deliver or deliver a fraction of it right and this is what they're holding out for and yeah i i feel for these people in the progressive caucus because it's a fucking hard job you are having to be very strategic
Starting point is 00:30:02 because you know at this point you'll this is this is one of the few chances that we have a bill that actually looks like progress in any kind of way yeah yeah and kirsten cinema is just getting absolutely rained on with corporate dollars right now like there's is it so with without them they can't do the bipartisan we should stop calling it bipartisan the republican like yeah you know mangled version so like who is saying no to like other than republicans who is saying no to the actual like build back better big baller brand well the whole thing is because they have to pass it through reconciliation in the senate and which means cinema and mansion need to get
Starting point is 00:30:50 on board but they keep doing stuff like to your point with kirsten cinema she just threw a huge fundraiser with like some of the biggest business lobbying groups paying for it it was like almost six grand a seat type fundraising dinner in and at the place at the place. She's like, I'm against raising taxes. And a lot of this stuff that you asked the how will they pay for it part. She was against a lot of that stuff in this room full of wealthy, you know, in the wealthy business class. Right. And she's not really clear on what she wants to do. Joe Manchin, again, who's like the boy made of coal. There's no way to understand what his math is.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Because, I mean, he is a fossil fuel byproduct. So how could he get on board with climate change stuff? But there's a lot of this stuff in this that is pulled really strongly in West Virginia. Yeah, I was just going to say, this is all so popular. Like closing tax loopholes for private equity managers. I'm sure they're going to have to change the focus here, but these are great answers to the question of how are you going to pay for it. We're going to tax rich people and not in a way that we're going to make them pay taxes and close loopholes. Period.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like you did. We're going to make them play by the same rules as you. You know how you look at your paycheck. And go fuck man. If those taxes weren't in there. I'd fucking be loving this shit. Guess who does that all the time. Billionaires. They don't do it.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And they look at their checks like. I ain't paying that shit. It's a really interesting dynamic because I think Manchin and Sinema are finding themselves at a point where these policies are wildly popular, but they are way too entrenched in the corporate wing of the Democratic Party
Starting point is 00:32:38 to begin to turn on their masters, you know, that they are unable to because the things that we're saying, we're like, yeah, this is great for everybody, except the people with the most money who spend the most money trying to influence Congress. And that's why we're seeing people like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:32:54 This doesn't make sense. Like, this is wildly popular. Yet you're saying no. Yeah. A little frustrated. Let's move over to the world of tech because I'm tired of being frustrated. I'm ready for some strong, timely, swift action maneuvers. And therefore, I want to talk YouTube because they, YouTube announced a ban on vaccine misinformation and the termination of
Starting point is 00:33:27 the accounts of several, you know, prominent anti-vaccine influencers, including Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who seems to be the one that like uses his name to like pull people who are on the edge or like on the border between anti-vaxxer and, you know, just have questions over to the anti-vax side. But yeah, the new policy was crafted as the company began to see false claims about COVID-19 vaccines spill over into misinformation about vaccines in general. Uh-oh. What?
Starting point is 00:34:01 According to a company blog post. Yeah. I mean, this feels, again, years too late. Years. And I think the increased scrutiny around vaccine and COVID misinformation in the last, you know, 19, 20 months finally got them to act. The company, they say, quote, we're now at a point where it's more important than ever to expand the work we started with COVID-19 to other vaccines. And you're like, yeah, this is this is so late. This is always and they've always had a quote unquote policy against COVID misinformation.
Starting point is 00:34:36 But it didn't seem very effective because half the time I felt like people were like reposting terrible YouTube links with some nonsense in it. And there's, there's thesis here seems to be that because COVID misinformation is spilling over to misinformation about other, that's the vaccines. That's the breaking point. Like, even though we're in the middle of a fucking like global pandemic, that's killing, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:00 millions of people. Like I, I, and the anti-vaccine movement started years ago, and that's they already had a very strong platform to start with with COVID. So it's like it's spilling over to other vaccines. This our existing thing spilled over to a pandemic and it got bigger because everyone has to care. Right. They're just misdiagnosing it completely. They're like, no, no, no. That already has been.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Now you're worried about the thing. I mean, now that Nazism is on the rise, we're thinking about you're just figuring that out now. Right. It seems like completely out of order. And, you know, they had this like, you know, specific policy. But now they want to just make sure that it's like all kinds of content, that stuff saying that falsely claims approved vaccines are dangerous or ineffective, or even like medical treatments that aren't properly that have not been approved to, you know, take that kind of shit off. And, you know, and also the stuff that vaccines can cause
Starting point is 00:35:58 autism or cancer. And sadly, I the anti vaxxers may have already gotten what they want because they are very good at shapeshifting on the Internet to like dodge moderation and use different hashtags or language to like escape the very intelligent algorithms. And, you know, their whole point was they wanted to weaponize the COVID vaccine fear to get more people to question all vaccines, you know. And there's this researcher, Renee DiResta, who leads the research on anti-vax disinformation at the Stanford Internet Observatory. She said, quote, anti-vaccine activists have been very vocal about the fact that they saw COVID as an opportunity to undermine confidence in the childhood vaccine schedule. Seeing YouTube take this action is reflective of the fact that it seems to be aware that that tactic and dynamic was beginning to really take shape. Now we're on a precipice, basically saying that like the approval for COVID vaccines for like young kids,
Starting point is 00:36:59 like coming in the next few weeks would just open the floodgates to even more wild shit to to get parents like very fearful and says, quote, it is going to be an absolute nightmare. The plan from day one has always been to use those stories to undermine confidence in vaccines more generally. I mean, that OK, that makes sense that they're doing this now. But there was other articles like Super Producer DJ Dramos put an article that was talking, it was a bunch of healthcare experts
Starting point is 00:37:30 talking about the concern that they were seeing vaccination levels drop in like across the board and not just COVID things, but they were seeing like children's vaccinations uh drop off and in the article they were claiming that it was just based on people being less likely to want to go to the hospital because of the pandemic but this makes more sense because i mean those diseases are a lot of the times way more dangerous to children yeah and so they're endangering
Starting point is 00:38:06 children in a very real way right with unbeknownst to them it's like the all that false sense of safety was because people were vaccinated and then that these are actual diseases that affect children very acutely that you know a lot of people are very worried about like these smaller outbreaks happening of like fully preventable diseases that we've been trying to eradicate through vaccination. Yeah. Cool. That's good that that's their stated strategy.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah. And I mean, it's yeah, it's yeah, they're community building. You know, we are headed for just an absolute shit storm once, you know, the FDA is Yeah, it's yeah, they're community building. like, you know, got the vaccine themselves, but are on a on some wait and see shit about children's vaccines or this vaccine in particular for children. And, you know, I think parents are more likely to be extremely cautious and verging on paranoid when it comes to the health of their children. But yeah, I think it's going to be a real shit show. So it's good that they're doing something at least. Well, I think that's why it's particularly insidious to have this be your mechanism to create more vaccine hesitancy. It's like, you know already that parents would do
Starting point is 00:39:37 anything to keep their kids safe, fucking anything, most healthy parents. And to then capitalize on that fear and distort reality to the point where they're even questioning what their pediatrician would suggest for the livelihood of their child is like it's it's fucking terrible and you and for all the people who would wait and see man there's so many fucking articles about these wait and see people who are being like don't wait and see like we waited and found out yeah and it wasn't it wasn't the right move at all and we're like like you know people are talking about like we got the vaccination like this second my dad flatlined like in the in the icu
Starting point is 00:40:16 like because we knew like we were stupid right and yeah even with and it's wild though too how you know there are there are children unfortunately who are succumbing to the virus and even like young like teenagers and things like that. like like really out in the open anti-vax people who are now regretting it versus like really showing like the actual pain that is caused by family when they lose like a younger loved one yeah i think people generally like don't want to see children hurt like on the news so but i mean it's when that is the subject that is being determined like you need to take a fucking look you know yeah and yeah the wait and see thing is yeah that's a that's a thing i've heard a lot of parents like ask doctors about and you know they're there's very good like look into it not from not on facebook but look at like actual scientific research on it. Yes, they were able to get this approved faster than any vaccine before,
Starting point is 00:41:28 but it was because so many people were working on it because of the fucking global pandemic and they were really good at their jobs. And the technology date dates back for like over a decade, I think. Right. Yes. At least actual mRNA technology or whatever. So it's like i know it's a fast vaccine but it was really they had something existing that they just had to spend a year
Starting point is 00:41:51 customizing for this virus instead of like we started from scratch and it only took us a year that's not what happened it's and it's wild too like even Like, even, you know, I have family who's vax-hesi. And when I talk to them as I work on them to come around to what's happening, it's interesting how much they are taking just a headline and not really interested in anything else. Like, my one relative was like, well, aren't you worried about, like, really said this thing that we tell each other. I'm like, well, what about your DNA? Aren't you worried that it really said like this thing that we tell the time like well what about your genetic like your dna aren't you worried that it's like it's like a it's like a genetic thing that it's not going to change i'm like that's not what this is it's not altering your dna it's in fact it's messenger rna it's telling your immune system to create a very specific and just explaining things like that they're like oh and i'm like so yeah like that's i'm a little
Starting point is 00:42:46 worried that you thought that's what was happening because just because the word rna was in it i'm like do you even i mean i didn't want to be like do you know what rna is but uh just to say until this right right right but just to slightly just hear i really before i would take a very heavy hand and just be like i don't talk about and the more i'm just like no you know what i just need to take this as if someone is telling me they have like a bad opinion on music so what do you believe is the best album of all time oh okay well let me tell you about that really quick and what's going on here and that seemed to actually give them a little bit more like give them a reason to actually read something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:27 They were like, oh, I thought it was this. I'm like, no, not at all. And like, I can I'll send you some stuff to look at. Very, you know, like USA Today type stuff. No agenda. Yeah. Just to read it. And that seemed to help thaw things a little bit or at least begin a process where it was more open to discussing what their own misgivings or ideas that they had around it or how that could change.
Starting point is 00:43:49 That sounds nice. I guess that's been the most frustrating to me is that people keep saying, well, I'm going to, I have to do my research and I'm like waiting for you to do the research. Cause if you did, you would find a lot of good information that, that it's fine. You know what I mean? And as if people that got the vaccine didn't also look some shit up before they got their shots i mean i don't know i'd be like would you prefer that the person who created the vaccine checked like learned everything from youtube would that make you feel comfortable if i said that yeah i don't know maybe no agenda there i just think it's funny that you think usa today doesn't have an agenda, man. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:25 You know they're owned by somebody, Miles. You got to follow the money or whatever. Follow the money. Look at the colorful pie charts. Big ink. You will. Yeah. Big ink.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Big color ink. The full color. Isn't it always full color, USA Today? I think the front page is always. It's like Epson. Big Epson printer or something. Right. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:48:31 And we're back. And I want to talk about Amazon. Amazon Company Towns, baby. Daddy Amazon. Just try not to open up your Zillow, your Redfins immediately and start looking for real estate inside an Amazon company town while we do this story. I know it's going to be tempting, but Bloomberg heralded how the promise of Amazon factory towns in a recent article will lift the working class, offering a solution to inequality, presumably because it was written by a stack of Amazon smiles and a trench coat.
Starting point is 00:49:09 There are communities that are basically already sprouting up around Amazon fulfillment centers. And Amazon is like, we will make them more livable for the working class. These types of towns are what the future of the working class is like. Those are actually direct quotes from that Bloomberg article. Right. working class these types of towns are what the future of the working class is like uh those are actually direct quotes from that bloomberg article right that's frightening to hear an amazon taking it this is the future of the working class oh yeah so okay time to get organized this is the last of the working class yeah exactly to pretend that this is a fresh new idea is like next level corporate gaslighting. But so first of all, we can take a look at this already because Amazon's basically already unofficially doing this and the results are pretty unnerving. You know, that's an area that is full of Amazon fulfillment centers and the company has been reshaping the surrounding community. For example, at a high school in San Bernardino, students can take classes in the quote Amazon logistics and business management pathways career track.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Oh, that's not like a single extracurricular activity. track. That's not like a single extracurricular activity. That is a learning philosophy that follows you. Teenage students on this career track get to wear golf shirts with the Amazon logo, or are forced to, which also appears on a banner in the classroom. Lessons above learning amazon's 14 leadership principles and taking field trips to amazon warehouses which is basically the box factory field trip from the simpsons but an amazon spokesperson proudly bragged that the goal here is to make sure that these kids just go to work for amazon and never leave this This sounds really like an ROTC program. Like they're full of propaganda everywhere. Wear a uniform.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah, there's a uniform. It's weird. Right. And I feel like my mind immediately went to cult, but to call it cult-like is a little unfair to cults because cults typically aren't able to buy their way into high school curriculums. Fair point. Yeah. So in this quote about the San Bernardino program from a New York Times article,
Starting point is 00:51:31 the students, instead of being educated here and trying to find, this is a quote from that spokesperson, the students, instead of being educated here and trying to find a job in the L.A. market or somewhere else, they can be educated here and remain here. market or somewhere else they can be educated here and remain here and then they're uh unsurprisingly paying way less in taxes than the city was hoping for when they opened up all these factories and fulfillment centers there which is a problem because there's a lot of wear and tear on roads with so many amazon vehicles leaving from here and with so many people at the Amazon site being treated like shit, it generates a lot of calls to police and emergency
Starting point is 00:52:10 services for worker injuries and just, you know, fender benders and things that happen when there's a bunch of people together. There's a Business Insider article that's basically parroting the Bloomberg piece, but added that the historical precedent of factory towns suggests that amazon's 21st century parallel will quote improve work for millions of americans which is so confusing because unaware of the history of factory towns like i think they're just counting on people being unaware of the... Like, their readers being unaware of that. I think they're right.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I mean, most people have no historical context for anything. And I get that this is pretty specific to know, like, labor history or factory towns. But in general, you don't want to be like, Hey, wouldn't you want to live in a place where your boss controlled fucking everything? Yeah. Horrible. And also, wasn't the south park episode specifically like ever all of this wasn't this probably yeah it really feels
Starting point is 00:53:12 very like black mirror i know i say that a lot but that's just because the world is turning into various episodes of black mirror i think it feels orwellian nice Nice. Or Kafka-esque, maybe? Yeah, Kafka-esque. So just to give our listeners, in case you're not familiar with Factory Towns, specifically Factory Towns built to house and contain the working class part of a company. Because I feel like the closest thing we've had that was highly publicized in recent years was disney's factory town which was called celebration and it was more like a suburb like a subdivision that was just designed by disney for like their high level like employees for the most part whereas this has more in common with these factory towns that sprung up following the Industrial Revolution, which basically just further exerted companies' grips over the population, often amounted to glorified prison camps. And those are quotes
Starting point is 00:54:18 from Smithsonian.mag, that hyper left-wing communist manifesto so well let's talk about pullman illinois is a company town built by sleeping car uh like railroad car magnate george pullman in 1880 he was like the elon musk of his time and that like the thing he built was kind of seen as cool like when railroads were becoming a thing he had these cars that you could sleep in that were like super luxurious and like associated with like cool shit. Like people like aspired. Yeah, they were chic and people aspired to like ride in them.
Starting point is 00:54:59 So, and he was, you know, this sort of celebrity tycoon. And so he built this community to prevent labor unrest and people could only rent their homes. No one was allowed to buy them, meaning workers could be evicted on short notice and were subjected to random inspections. Pullman banned bars and town meetings because that would be too much communication between the workers. because that would be too much communication between the workers. People get organized. And his influence even extended to adding which books were in the library and which shows the local theater performed. Then, you know, he was known like publicly for paying people okay at first,
Starting point is 00:55:38 like maybe even better than other manufacturers of rail cars. But then once he got people in this like captive state, he lowered their wages, but he didn't lower their rent. Uh, which led to, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:53 So this led to a strike, which ended when the U S Calvary was sent in and several dozen citizens were shot dead. So this formerly beloved tycoon, when he died, they had to bury his coffin under layers of concrete so no one would desecrate his body because of the shit he tried with his factory town there are other famous company town massacres in which striking workers were evicted from their homes and murdered by cops and militias uh there's one in Ludlow, Colorado and Kohler, Wisconsin, where it was.
Starting point is 00:56:27 But our beloved toilets. I know. So Kohler was a plumbing fixture factory that opened in 1900. They immediately started making like just buckets and buckets of money. So they started building houses for couples and dorms for single men who worked there, financed schools, had pension plan, paid well. And then when the depression hit, the employees tried to strike because they lowered their wages. And Culler responded by arming deputies like their own private police force with machine guns. And then there was predictably a clash and 40 strikers were shot and two were killed. And but don't I mean, but here's the thing. And I don't want anyone to think that that's going to happen in an Amazon town.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Obviously, we'll just be monitoring your every step with our technologically advanced dormitories that will know if you're lying, if you're calling in sick. And then we'll deduct your pay that way. And we'll know if you're talking bad about us. it'll be great it's gonna elevate the working you're gonna love it because it's gonna be if it easy it'll be really affordable just don't just forget about the other like rights that you might have do you think their houses have bathrooms or do they just come with a bunch of water bottles i mean that is the thing to like keep in mind like facebook and google are also trying this but they they're, I think, mostly focusing on like, the people who work on their like, already like extravagantly, you know, really nice campuses. And, you know, it's more for the people who are already extremely well compensated. They're trying to build like little luxury communities, like Disney did, which by the way the disney thing didn't like end well by any means disney ended up selling it after there were like a bunch of murders in celebration florida somebody should
Starting point is 00:58:15 make a movie about celebration florida for sure what murders all right yeah new in my search history for instance a grizzly axe one grily Axe murder of that varietal. Oh, wow. Just as you mentioned, though, I mean, the Amazon thing is so concerning because this is a company that is already exerting so much control over their lower income employees' lives that they have to piss in water bottles. They're being constantly monitored, like reality show contestants. They're so stressed that they had to build these things called Amazon
Starting point is 00:58:51 booths, which are basically upright coffins where you can cry in peace for five minutes. They have little videos that you watch while you're in there. I do love that it's five minutes. Like, that's... Hey, enough saying in there. Let's go, let's go, let's go. They feature easy to follow well-being activities in the little cry coffins,
Starting point is 00:59:14 including guided meditations, positive affirm great. You are doing wonderful. exist in when they're in suspended animation and being like having space marines yeah having a computer be like you're great you are doing wonderful you are happy you are complete you are respected you are not a political prisoner yeah this is not a labor camp you like jeff bezos do you think amazon eventually is going to try to rebrand as like amazing or something like that? Because like the Amazon name, I just feel like this, I feel like they're going to have rebrand at some point. Because the tide is like people are slowly like, I don't know, it's this fucking thing that I use to sometimes get shit quickly or watch a TV show on. But there's this untold human suffering behind it. watch a TV show on, but there's this untold human suffering behind it. And they're on their way to like, like you're saying, indoctrinating kids from high school to be like, don't question that.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Like, we love you. Like your family, where your father worked here, your father's father worked here, your father's father's father worked here. And why would you, you know, why would you eliminate that bond? And like you're saying uh diana about like rotc like i could i could see in some fucked up bizarre future where people are like no man like we're an amazon family yes like we're a military family yeah i totally would see that they're like look i'm gonna hand down to you my golf shirt with the amazon logo right because it happens like you know right this is your grandfather's dry fit polo shirt and this can be yours now right and i don't know i mean like it's the same thing like when you go to places like in when in michigan when cars were being manufactured they're much
Starting point is 01:01:18 more regularly and in an intense fashion there were people like generational employees of like chevy or you know cadillac or something like that and that made sense because in that place you lived this was a place that offered your family stability or upward mobility then obviously things changed as uh the nature of corporate profits changed but i think you know i can see this but in just a much darker version because it's not just more like oh amazon provided us like an opportunity to do more. It's like Amazon was the only fucking thing I could do. And to not do it meant like nearly certain death.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah. Speaking of Amazon and company towns and car manufacturing, there's the story of Fordlandia that people can Google themselves, which isry ford built a town in the amazon rainforest in brazil and there was a revolt and the people who worked there cut the cut the telegraph lines it was like all right we're not stuck in here with you you're stuck in here with us motherfuckers yes amazing we're those man we need threat we need like horror shit like that you know what i mean we're like billionaires like they think they're getting one over and then like the working class people turn into a massacre is that like the purge kind of well the purge i feel like you can project too much shit onto it like right whatever you know like
Starting point is 01:02:41 like i think like fordlandia like if you just a few tweaks and you're like oh my god like don't be the greedy capitalist who tries to exploit a bunch of people because the lesson there is like they're just going to cut the bottoms of your feet off yeah that sounds painful all right let's check in with uh halloween candy trends uh off of that yeah a light shift of gears. A little light shift. As we're known to do on this show. Sort of.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Let's downshift. Go from capitalist dystopia to candy land. Yay. Yeah. Where's the candy can company town? I might live there. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Let's go work for Nestle. Oh, boy. Yeah. Because they're the one company that's like, we have water for our employees. That's true. They will have all the water. Because we own it all. Oh, Nestle. But Zipia is like this job site who does like, we have water for our employees. That's true. They will have all the water. Because we own it all. But Zippia is like this job site who does like, you know, they pretty regularly put together like these maps based on their research of like certain trends.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And they do one every year with Halloween candy. Sometimes we follow it. I think most of the time we do just because it's interesting to see the way they get to this, their methodology is that they sort of put together a list of like 50 top candies, like like whether they're really popular or really well known because people fucking hate them. And then from there, compare what the like Google search traffic is based on a state. So if one is trending highest of all those 50, they're like, OK, so that seems to be the one that's very popular in this state given it's like comparative right like it could be that snickers is the number one search in all of these towns but it's just not comparatively more popular in one town than the other i feel like is the yeah i mean that's why it's not exact so it's just more like here's a feeling of what's happening right and i think the top line sort of thing is they're saying that more than 28 states prefer chocolate candies, 22 prefer gummies.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Or the thing that I'm really worried about is in Colorado, they love black licorice. In Oklahoma, they love circus peanuts. Oh, that's awful. Black licorice, I'm sorry. I can't. I can't. I can't. Yeah,'t. I can't. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:04:46 That's a no. It's that anise flavor that I just do not. I don't like it. I don't like it. I like caraway seeds. You know, I fuck with rye bread here and there. But don't make me black licorice, please. I think you mispronounced anise.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yes, Jack. That anise flavor, I just can't get around um they i didn't realize they border one another so maybe that's what's uh what's going on there's just a what is this i always see it looks like packing peanuts and that are like blue and pink and i'm like that's not i remember just being a kid like that's not candy that's for that's like i fucked with it when i was a kid it was uh are they marshmallow are they like nougat or something yeah they're marshmallow they're basically very cheaply produced orange marshmallows that by being the color orange and being named peanuts i feel like
Starting point is 01:05:39 that is the only thing that is giving them any flavor other than sugar but it like because you're going in with the expectation of a peanutty orangey flavor they skate on that on just being basically sugar packing material i see i'm looking at the other ones california's most popular is jolly rancher hard candy okay i mean that actually i feel like that reminds me of the, all the cane. Like I would get a lot of those growing up and I hated them because the green apple ones tastes like fucking gasoline. Miles,
Starting point is 01:06:14 you could have given me all your green apples. That's my favorite. Oh, it is. Well, I look, I'll go to my mom's house. I think her garage,
Starting point is 01:06:19 I still got them from 92. So I'll, I'll find them your way. Your favorite flavor of everything or just uh jolly ranchers really yeah i don't know what do you what about watermelon jolly rancher watermelon's good as hell wow another one i'm like straight gasoline so it's so artificial to me i'm also just i think in general as a kid i only thought chocolate was the thing worth having right like i just didn't i was like whatever skill like skittles are cool they're sugar but like
Starting point is 01:06:49 give me that fucking chocolate that's what i'm fucking here for yeah shout out shout out to illinois they love airheads over there that's such an interesting one that brought me back airheads is like a spit like every now and then you'd be in a gas station and be like, let me spend 25 cents on one airhead and just eat it. And it's like a perfect thing where it takes you back to childhood and that's it. I don't need any more airheads in that. Pulls out all your fillings.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Yeah. Your whole mouth starts hurting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a biased chart, by the way, because they're counting Tootsie Pop as a chocolate, which seems kind of questionable to me. Yeah, it's mostly fruit, and then it becomes chocolate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:34 I feel like Tootsie Rolls even aren't really. Yeah, that's different. And even Tootsie Rolls aren't real chocolate, right? They're like chewy chocolate flavored, whatever. It's an abomination. Not nougat, but whatever. That's another one that I would be, you know, when they would have the giant Tootsie Roll, like the one that's almost candy bar size. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:56 For whatever reason, I was like, oh, this one's going to taste like chocolate. And I'm like, no, it's just a big fucking taffy turd that looks like chocolate yeah 50 rolls have like zero chocolate content i think they're just brown going by the logic of this chart where it's like i'm more into this candy than it seems like other people are where where would you fall on that what's your like kind of secret guilty pledge, as nobody says ever? I mean, the peanut butter chocolate combo, I think for me, will always be Halloween for some reason. I didn't know they made peanut butter chocolate combos. No, not the chips.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I mean, you should. I hope they're peanut butter combos. I'm talking to you in a second. That's actually a fucking brilliant idea. If you can make chocolate-covered pretzels with peanut butter, come on. Jack saying that's actually a fucking brilliant idea. Chocolate covered pretzels with peanut. Come on. Jack, go fucking market that shit. Go make that shit right now in your garage. Bring some back to the class.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Yeah, I'm definitely a Reese's peanut butter, Reese's Pieces because also E.T., Reese's Pieces. Wow, Reese's Pieces. Reese's peanut butter cups is I think that's probably the most favorite candy in the world. I would assume in America at the very least,
Starting point is 01:09:12 but Reese's pieces, a lot of people do not fuck with Reese's pieces. What? Yeah. Have you had peanut butter M&Ms? Yeah, those are good too. I think they're superior because they're bigger.
Starting point is 01:09:24 They have more peanut butter than more chocolate. I should do a taste test because when I go to the movies, I will house a bag of Reese's Pieces and just have so much sugar. I just go into diabetic shock. Be vibrating above your chair. Oh, yeah, yeah. That and these new Twizzlers that I got the last time I was there. This was maybe 15 years ago,
Starting point is 01:09:44 whenever the last time I was there. This was like maybe five, 15 years ago. Whenever I, whenever the last time I was in a movie theater, but there is some new Twizzler joints that were so good. I couldn't believe it. And they weren't just like special about them. They were like, like sour and tasted like anus. They were like a pull and peel sort of kind of like other can i don't know i gotta i gotta look
Starting point is 01:10:06 again it's there's so many i'm so behind with my candies i have seen that pull and peel though yeah what about you diana what's your where do you land on here what's your home state me is georgia so skittles but what would your skittles yeah but for you i mean if you had to pick if let's say you had to pick a state because that was your the candy yeah do you see your is your favorite candy on here or are you are you sort of an outlier no peanut butter m&ms are my favorite i during the pandemic i actually had to stop eating them because i would get like party size bags like that's not a party and i would eat them all by myself in like two days it was way way too much sugar. It was horrible. Okay, so you'd be up in Indiana.
Starting point is 01:10:48 That looks like where peanut M&M's are. That's peanut M&M's, not peanut butter M&M's. Would I fall more into the Reese's cups because of the peanut butter or would I go peanut M&M's because of the M&M itself? Which is more important? The delivery system or
Starting point is 01:11:04 the flavor? I developed a real peanut M&M's problem during the pandemic. It was bad. Did you? The party size. That really rang true with me. What's a party size bag look like?
Starting point is 01:11:19 It's like a backpack. I mean, it's 41 pounds. It's the Donner Party size. Comes on a Conestoga wagon. It's the Costco size that they sell at Target for some reason. Right, right, right. It's just like a bucket, basically, with a lid on it. Kind of.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I don't think it is five pounds. Right, right, right. I mean, it's a lot, though, Jack. I don't know if you five pounds right right right i i mean it's a lot though jack i don't know if you remember but oh yeah uh yeah i think it's at least a pound of it's not something you should be eating as a single singular zips up yeah the reseal yeah zips you got to keep it because that's their assumption is you're eating this over the course of a year and thus you you we need to put a zip on it to keep it fresh and uh yeah you know my my logic one time maybe two when i was in college i and like i would just get so stoned and just i would do something like eat a whole bag of like party size m&ms my
Starting point is 01:12:20 fucking stupid logic at that time was well there's no way like they would just put this much unhealthy shit like it can't be bad if i just eat this whole thing right now like right otherwise they would get in trouble because people would be dying going down eating all these things and for whatever reason that was my narrow logic to be like and that's why it's okay that i ate this whole bag. I remember the interesting of my patients. No way this entire handle of vodka can be bad for me.
Starting point is 01:12:52 It's illegal, right? They'd get in trouble for selling it, this much of it. That's what I kept saying to my they'd get in trouble. They'd get in trouble if it was bad. That's beautiful. Whatever rationalization I could use to just desecrate my own body oh yeah i mean yeah that's what i was doing i was like well it's a pandemic
Starting point is 01:13:11 it's tough times you know comfort yourself however you can and meanwhile my stomach's like um we've had so much yellow number five or whatever die in here like you're giving me literally a tumor right now stop someone's yellow number five your digestive tract is doing a louis bega yellow number five number five yeah i i'm my two thoughts here are one i don't see blow pops anywhere i do love to just yeah house a blow just crunch into that shit and just, you know, treat it like a stick of gum. And then also, yeah,
Starting point is 01:13:49 just what you were saying, the Reese's Pieces, my relationship with Reese's Pieces is so based on movies. It's like, man, they really fucking nailed that product placement. And then the fact that they're in every movie theater
Starting point is 01:14:04 and I still remember like eating a big ass bag of them while seeing honey i shrunk the kids when i was like really isn't that so weird because my whole thing is i could see et's little fucked up hand touching the little pieces it's weird when i put my hand in the bag of reese's pieces i have this weird like sense memory that i do a POV of my hand and it's E.T. touching the Reese's Pieces and then I eat them. Thank you, Steven Spielberg.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Thank you. Wow. It makes sense that they're popular Halloween candy because they're already orange-wrapped. Reese's Pieces are already fall colors. If you're into decor, they do it all for you. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:45 And plus ET, there's Halloween elements to that. It's just like, was ET just a big marketing vehicle for Reese's? Like they conceived it. It was like a psyop Reese's. Build a movie around Reese's pieces. Go.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Right. I believe it started as, uh, the, the original script headed as M&ms and they went to mars and they're like yeah get the fuck out of here kid so they had to go with reese's pieces and that's why we have reese's pieces today because wow but yeah that became the thing where like by accident people saw the power of the Reese's Pieces product placement
Starting point is 01:15:25 and that launched a thousand Dodge Chargers into action movies. Right. Oh, wow. I didn't realize that the whole deal was that Amblin made with her. She was like, we're not going to pay for anything to put in this movie, and then you got to do a million dollars worth of advertising. Oh, really? Yeah, to promote E.T. Wow.
Starting point is 01:15:49 And you can use E.T. in the ads. Well, I mean, that's a fucking deal. Yeah, that's a good deal, I feel like. We've been trying to get E.T. to guest on this podcast for a long time. I know. Fucking keeps blowing us off.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Instead, we got Elliot coming on later. Oh, man, that kid was so cute. Now that, like, 50-year-old man. I know, like, it tells you now. Yeah. I just re-watched E.T. at Tarantino's movie theater with my kid, and I hadn't seen it since I was a lot younger and as a parent it just
Starting point is 01:16:28 hit me. Back then I was like who's this dork? Fuck him. But yeah, now really, really great child performances in that movie. He's 50 now. Yeah. Time flies, huh? I don't know
Starting point is 01:16:44 why I'm like, oh, good. He's still he's 13. Just a couple of years older. No. Elliot from E.T. is 13 now. People are like, whoa, he looks so different. He looks like shit, though. Diana, it's been such a pleasure having you on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Thanks for having me. Where can people find you and follow you? I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Diana Might Boom. And please listen to Ridiculous Romance, the podcast I co-host with my husband. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:17:22 Oh, it was hard to pick. Twitter's on fire, as usual. But I think since we talked about vaccines a lot today, I'm going to have to say Mohanad El-Sheikhi tweeted, please stop saying the vaccine doesn't have severe side effects. I took my
Starting point is 01:17:39 shots and now I'm alive and have to keep working. That's pretty good. Fuck. Fuck it all. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Well, first you can find me on the latest episode of Hood Politics.
Starting point is 01:17:56 What? With my man Prop Yes. And he had me on to talk about lobbying. So I got to talk about all kinds of things from my time as a lobbyist and my perspective and just trying to make it break it down easier for people to understand how like what the nature of lobbying is what it's really there to do and why it's a fucking evil thing for the most part obviously there's good lobbying too but let's be real most of the kind we're
Starting point is 01:18:21 hearing about now isn't great uh so check out out Hood Politics to see that or to rather to hear that. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray and also the other show, the 90 Day Fiance podcast, 420 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra. Check us out at twitch.tv slash 420 Day Fiance. A tweet that I like. I think I have two, actually. They're just very, very wonderful tweets. The first one is from
Starting point is 01:18:48 Tommy McNam. At Tommy McNam tweeted, starting my eulogy with, my grandpa understood the assignment. I'm just like, yep, that's a great one. And then this is just a very, very juvenile, childish
Starting point is 01:19:03 tweet that I like. At human underscore not underscore bees tweeted. We all dream of the Great British Road Trip. And this person mapped out all these sort of points in the UK, like for this road trip. And it's all stuff like Shitterton, Ass Hill, Cock Alley, Penis Stone, Cockermouth, Dick Place, Cock Bridge, and Twat. So there's all of these. Yes, I just laughed at that. And best believe I checked because I'm like, I don't want to get duped. And they are in fact real places.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Oh, I thought you were going to say, and they are in fact a human and not bees. I'm still suspicious about that one. They are actually bees. They're definitely bees. Couple tweets. I enjoyed Rebecca Weiser tweeted, crazy that you can have a job where you are responsible for saving a human life, or you can have a job where you need to send an email but don't.
Starting point is 01:19:56 And that hit hard for me because my wife, she comes home from a long day in the COVID tents. I'm like, oh, I'm so tired. I've been thinking about sending two emails all day. And then... Rub my feet. Andrew. Please, I'm thinking about these emails.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Oh, my God. We've been married long enough but just the idea that she would give me a foot rub is the funniest thing i can possibly imagine andrew nadeau tweeted a horror movie but the killer wears flip-flops so there's an ominous thwip thwip sound as he hunts you down which i i like i always did that one that's so funny maybe maybe we could pair it with the sheet mask and sheet mask and they're wearing those flip-flops that they give you the nail salon when you get a pedicure yeah there's both in oh yeah yeah so i'm ready for this self-care the self-care slasher yeah Self-care slasher, yes.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Terrorizing the spas. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes on our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Miles, what song are we telling people to go check out? We're going to ride out on this Thursday to Problems by St. Panther. St. Panther, I believe, is from Irvine, California. Shout out SoCal. And she's like a multi-instrumentalist singer songwriter so I'm you know I love people who are literate in all of the musical arts and making music and this track is like a funky sort of new new age R&B track it sounds like if Erykah Badu was like a millennial or Gen Z kind of thing like her sort of deliveries is sort of in that way so it's familiar yet new
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