The Daily Zeitgeist - Photoshop of Horrors, We WON’T Do War Crimes? 1.8.20
Episode Date: January 8, 2020In episode 544, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Ali Ghandour to discuss Rand Paul's feelings on the current situation, the Pentagon claiming they would not destroy Iranian cultural sites, Iraq s...igning a letter for the US troops to leave, congressman Paul Gosar posting photoshopped images to prove his dumb points, Harvey Weinstein's trial already being a mess, a new accuser of the president from Fox News, the Avatar sequel, the Tesla car company, updates on Aunt Becky, and more!FOOTNOTES: Rand Paul Rails Against Trump’s Soleimani Strike: ‘I Hate This’ Pentagon Chief Esper Rejects Trump’s Threats To Destroy Iran’s Cultural Sites Iraqi prime minister says unsigned U.S. troop-withdrawal letter sent by mistake COUNTS despite Arabic translation not matching the English—as Pentagon chief vows 'we are not leaving' but Donald Trump insists it will happen 'at some point' A GOP congressman tweeted a fake image of Obama with the Iranian President. They never met. Harvey Weinstein Charged With Rape in Los Angeles as N.Y. Trial Starts Harvey Weinstein rebuked by judge for using phone in court Former Fox News reporter says Trump invited her to his office 'so we can kiss' ‘Avatar 2’ Debuts First Look at New Worlds With Nearly Two Years Left Until Release Tesla Is the Most Valuable Car Company In America Ever LORI LOUGHLIN ROWING PICS OF DAUGHTERS NOT SENT TO USC WATCH: Kamaal Williams - New Heights (Visions Of Aisha Malik) (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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three of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where you take
a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers and fuck fox news it's wednesday january 8th 2020 my
name is jack o'brien aka you know i'm all about that jack about that jack o'brien uh that is
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And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
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Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the
hilarious performer,
Ali Gondor. Hey, guys.
What's up, man? Welcome. Thank you for
being here. Absolutely. Happy New Year.
Long time. I'm saying that
for you. Happy New Year to you.
First time guest. Long time
brewing.
You guys go way back, right?
We go way back without knowing
we went way back.
Floating around the same giant school
paying a lot of money.
Floating around that bear
statue on the quad.
Yep.
I used to jog around there sometimes.
Did you ever join up the Squirrels of UCLA Facebook fan page?
No.
I remember there's some dumb fucking page like Squirrels of UCLA.
It was prime time for like bad Facebook groups that were just united.
I remember there was a group that was just like serial and it had like two million members or something.
It's like you get it.
Because at the time, likes were also a thing.
You'd look at someone's profile like, well, what would they like?
What groups do they like?
What brands do they like?
This is like two years maybe after the clever thing on MySpace being to make a MySpace page for something that didn't exist.
Or be like, this is the MySpace page for Big Bird.
And everybody's like, Big Bird has a MySpace page?
What?
You're in his top eight?
Yeah.
Why do college campuses have the most aggressive squirrels?
Was that the case with you?
They're fed.
But I mean, like cities, squirrels are fed too.
I think in that area, there's just been generations of squirrels who know
these people will give you fucking food.
Yeah.
But I mean, where I went to college,
I guess maybe just there's so much garbage
that they get to...
What are you trying to say about Westwood?
I'm saying my college had...
There's so much garbage.
My college had the most aggressive squirrels.
They would just like walk towards you.
Georgetown?
Yeah.
Those gray squirrels?
Yeah, gray squirrels.
That y'all got in D.C.?
Yeah, very strange.
And they were strangely colored too.
If it's a universal college thing, maybe they're picking up on pheromones.
Right.
Like college kids in heat.
Yeah.
Or maybe it's just half-empty beers, and they're getting drunk,
and just getting beer muscles.
I don't know.
Westwood didn't have shit like beers strewn about on campus,
because you weren't living that life at UCLA, really. Right, right. I was constricted to a couple canvas. Yeah. Because people weren't, it wasn't the life, you weren't living that life at UCLA really.
Right, right.
I was constricted to a couple streets.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that might have just been my college experience.
You were just drinking on canvas,
just tossing half that beer.
Fucking.
Waking up on the quad with a half empty beer in my hand.
Using a squirrel as a pillow.
All right.
We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about, such as big news.
The Avatar sequel is finally coming.
Oh, my God.
In two years.
Oh, my God.
And so what we got were, well, we'll get into it.
We'll get into it.
We got what looks like a bunch of screensavers.
We got to roll our sleeves up and dig deep through all this material, these four shots.
We're going to talk about Iran.
We're going to talk about how the Pentagon is dealing with Iran and Iraq and being kicked out of Iraq and not knowing really much about that.
Showing a lot of organization.
Yeah.
A lot of organization coming out of the Pentagon.
We're going to do a Benghazi.
Benghazi.
With Weinstein.
I almost called him Jeffrey Weinstein, but that's a different guy.
Harvey Weinstein's trial and new charges coming from the Los Angeles DA.
We're also going to talk about Courtney Friel,
former Fox News anchor who
the president reached out to and had a very enticing invitation for her. We're going to
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in 2020. We're going to talk about Tesla, which is now the most valuable car company
in U.S. history somehow.
That's right, bro.
That's right.
That's right, haters.
That's right, haters.
Back off.
Are you a Tesla fan, Miles?
No.
I'm a fan of blunts, though.
I'm a fan of...
I have to support Elon.
I'm a fan of his dancing.
Oh, God.
He looked very comfortable doing both of those things.
Yeah, exactly.
Totally cool.
Smoking a blunt like a cop from Middle Earth.
He dances and smokes a blunt like somebody who was raised with loose emeralds in his pocket, which he was.
We're going to talk about Lori Loughlin's defense.
We're going to talk about what movies are coming out in 2020.
All of that and plenty more.
But first, Ali, we'd like like to ask our guests what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are uh yeah i went back and looked um this was
a search for luke skywalker aunt and uncle burned action figures
this is uh so from the very first movie uh there's that one brutal scene where he comes back home to find just the most insanely violent, like, charred remains.
They're just these, like, smoking skeletons.
It might be, like, the most brutal death of anyone in the series, right?
Wait, I don't remember him seeing charred corpses.
Yo, he comes back, fucking Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru fucking scorched.
Damn.
And it's-
Like you see like jawbone and shit.
It's like I went back and watched it.
It's enough.
There's first you, he gets the idea of like, oh, wait, that means my home might be on fire too.
He comes back home.
You see a wider shot of the charred bodies and you're like, oh, that's brutal.
And then they do one zoomed in one that has them like Pirates of the Caribbean style
like stretched across their – here, we got the picture.
Just full-on charred skeletons.
Oh, what the fuck?
Skeletal remains.
Yo, that is like straight-up Terminator 2 but worse.
I honestly think it's the worst death anyone's had in any of the thing,
like including villains probably.
Right, for like a PG movie.
Although I guess Raiders of the Lost Ark was also PG
and we saw somebody's face melt off his skull.
Yeah.
So I remember like back in the day finding,
somebody put this in like a forum or something,
this image of the action figure set of Luke's aunt and uncle
and it was just these charred skeletons,
but in the traditional action figure packaging
with like the cardboard back, a little plastic see-through thing and there was i think this was like early enough
on the internet that there was nowhere no way to tell if it was real or not so i just recently was
like was that a real thing went and looked never an official product but somebody on etsy has
started producing them custom made so you can get one. Oh, hell yeah. So their existence and death always raised an interesting question for me
because they were hidden, like they hid Luke Skywalker,
Anakin Skywalker's son that he didn't know existed,
with his relatives.
So they weren't even really trying to hide him from Darth Vader like Darth Vader should
have known because it was with
Darth Vader's relatives
so and like
Obi-Wan was hanging out right there
so why
my theory
on this is that
Darth Vader was in on it the
whole time and he was protecting his
children yeah that's one theory my theory that Darth Vader was in on it the whole time, and he was protecting his children. Yeah, that's one theory.
Yeah.
My theory is Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's dad.
No, dude.
That's just a fan theory.
That's just a fan theory, dude.
Wait, so you're saying Owen is related to Darth Vader?
I think he is, yeah.
Oh.
I think he was sent there so that Aunt Beru could.
Stepbrother of Anakin.
Yeah.
So, I mean, there you go.
Like, you think he's going to never find them if he's hanging out with his stepbrother?
He has his adopted kid?
Yeah.
I didn't realize Beru's last name was White Son.
Beru White Son.
No one Lars.
How did you not realize that?
Because in the movie, they were scorched skeletons just called Uncle Owen and Aunt Baru.
Yeah, that's true.
Love the expanded universe, though.
She did feed him a lot of blue milk.
I think that was crucial to him growing up a strong boy.
I loved watching him just drink it right from the udder.
That's what I was hoping in the second of the new prequels.
Yeah, sequels.
Or whatever, the sequels, there were those animals
that just had the wild udders hanging out.
Yeah.
But did Blue Milk come out of there?
Yeah, Luke squirted Blue Milk directly into his own mouth.
Dude, I blocked that shit out of my mind, I think.
Yeah, you should have.
I thought so.
Is that right?
It's like a greenish.
I think it harkens back to that
blue milk he used to drink for sure okay man he gives a big old slurp yeah yeah like he's a freak
bro he's been living on the island he had his own rules he's real like they they went in on like him
just being like kind of fucked up yeah like it's just that like he's seen a lot of bachelor life
left to yourself for too long like sucking on an an alien titty. Not in a good place.
I'm going to summon a drink, man.
Go over there.
It's like, yo, what the fuck, man?
This is the original hedonism resort.
Which is probably more accurate, but it's also kind of weird.
This is a weird call to make him so strange.
What is something you think is overrated?
Overrated. is something you think is overrated uh overrated i'm i'm going quite literally with this one
five-star uber drivers and five-star lyft drivers yeah and this is this this comes with
there are so many drivers out there who are great five stars i get it it's a great hustle i respect
the hustle but i've just had way too many experiences getting into a car with somebody
who turns out to be an insane like nut job racist or or misogynist who's trying to get me to talk just slimy shit about the girls on the sidewalk and stuff.
And their rating is like 4.98.
Yeah.
So I think there's maybe an epidemic of people being too scared to give an uber driver a real yeah because on one hand like you don't want to
knock someone's ability to like yes to like you don't want to fuck up their rating right but i
think some drivers are kind of shapeshifters depending on their passengers because you'll
read the thing it's like they were so helpful and it's like i'm sure the slick ones know don't start
talking some shit about a woman's ass on the street to when you have women in the car right
right you got a dude in there,
and then you can be like,
let me loosen the tie a little bit.
Right, right.
So yeah, they're not seeing it.
I had one just crazy experience
where I got out,
and it was this woman.
I could tell she was maybe having a night.
I got in.
She took a couple minutes too long
kind of finishing her text
before we started going.
And I was like,
oh, that's chill.
Do your thing.
And then she turned up the radio super loud.
It was like Led Zeppelin, Whole Lotta Love, which is really funny.
And I was like, OK, Sandra, you rock.
I don't know what impression you're trying to give.
And she starts speeding down these speed bumps down my street,
like hitting them hard, where I'm like, hey,
you're ruining your car right now.
I don't know what you're doing.
And then after
five minutes of that,
we get out, she turns down the radio
and she looks back at me in the rearview mirror and she goes,
can I ask you something?
Why are all guys
such assholes?
Why are you all assholes?
And I was just like,
damn,
Sam,
bro.
Yeah,
we can be pretty bad.
Well,
hold on.
Before I answer,
am I a five star asshole?
Right.
That might affect
if I give you five stars.
There's a way
to have that conversation.
I've had that conversation
like,
yeah,
guys are dicks.
Let's talk about it.
But the more we got into it,
the more it was just like,
oh, no, you are the wrong one here and she was also driving like um do you remember in vanilla sky when uh cameron diaz is doing that like yeah like that crazy death ride like that's
truly like my conversation wasn't coming from a place of empathy it was coming from calm this
person down so they don't crash and her rating was was, again, like 4.9 or some shit.
I always reflectively go 5.
Yeah, I always do too.
And I'm saying there is a part of that
that I think is the good guy move.
Yes, let's support this. Let's make sure
I think it's so easy to give a 5 star ride.
Let's give them all 5 stars.
But if you give somebody a 5 star ride
and they're a little bit crazy, you're passing that hot potato on to somebody who's gonna get it and it's gonna
fucking explode on yeah or you just have to say hey my man i gotta warn you man we're drifting
into a four-star ride here all right and i don't want to fucking i'm not trying to trying to take
fucking money out your pocket right but this is becoming a quickly i mean i'm gonna be honest
this might be a two-star ride to go four, I would have to believe that they should not be doing this job for the safety of themselves or others.
So that's your four star.
And 80% of B plus or B minus on a test means you should not be driving this car.
So that is what happens.
Somebody takes 100 rides.
They're all like nothing.
They're all eventless.
They're all eventless. They're all five-star.
Then you take a ride, and it's pretty bad, and they get a four-star, and it affects their rating like nothing.
Right.
Or maybe more nuanced rating.
I can't just say based on everything I've experienced on this ride that I can just distill it down to one metric.
I can do five stars for conversation.
I can do five stars for driving.
I can do three stars for the farting do five stars for driving i can do three
stars for the farting right yeah yeah that's fair so what's the what's the wildest uber experience
you've ever had i've had a time bro i had a dude who was from uzbekistan and he was complaining
that you couldn't punch women in the united states oh word yeah he was like you like he was describing like punching someone like his friend
he said like yeah my friend is in jail because he and was gesturing punching right like he punched
he's like closed hands through someone's and now he's jail and i'm like right and he's like
not like that at home and i was was like, okay, thank you.
The other one, usually I get mostly ignorant people with terrible takes on social issues.
I remember when Pride was happening, this French guy, he was driving me and Her Majesty through West Hollywood.
And all the streets were, there was a bunch of closures because the parade was happening.
He goes, I don't understand this.
They have to have a parade?
There's no straight people parade?
Yeah, there it is.
And I said, I'm pretty sure every parade that exists
is for that.
It's a straight person parade.
Just like when people,
I remember in high school constantly
having to educate white classmates
on why there's a BET.
There's no BET.
And I'm like, it's called every other network.
Right, yes.
It already is.
So that's what it's, do you understand that?
Yeah.
Imbalance?
Okay, never mind.
LA, you get a lot of actors, like coked up actors.
I've had a couple of those that are wild.
Or like I get ones too, old players,
like old black dudes in their 50s
who are telling me, they're like, hey bro,
they're just telling me
about all their like women problems yeah and it's a hilarious because i'm like you have not matured
at all emotionally right you're in your 50s you have grandchildren yeah and you're talking about
you're referring to like when your girlfriend is like this hoe is not you know she wants to get
all in my shit because i'm coming home late. I'm just playing basketball. Right. I'm like, okay, but never mind.
Thank you so much.
This conversation has been entertaining.
What's something you think is underrated?
I'm going to go with the musician, performer, philosopher, Andrew W.K.
Okay.
On this one.
Wow.
Yeah, this is controversial.
I feel like a lot of people maybe don't have the best opinion of him.
Regardless of whether you're into his music, which I think first two albums are awesome.
If you want to get into the album I Get Wet or the album The Wolf, both of those great.
He has since moved on to become this very thoughtful voice of empathetic philosophy. He had a column in
The Village Voice for a long time. I think it was a weekly thing where it was like,
ask Andrew WK. And people would write in with these questions that were pretty heavy. And he
just gives the most... His whole philosophy basically is like life is this overwhelming thing that we're all experiencing.
And every single moment that you feel unease, like that is the feeling of being alive.
And that is something that like you need to embrace and fold into your experience.
Growth.
Yeah.
And the way that he expresses all of that is partying. Yeah, partying is the way to channel that single vibration
that we all are on and all struggling with.
I worked with him a few years ago.
Yeah.
When I worked at Playboy, we basically did a failed April Fool's Day campaign
where I pitched Andrew WK this idea that this was during the presidential election.
I said, it's like so left and right right now.
It's like, let's do a thing where you're announcing this new thing called the party party.
So it's not the Republican party or the Democrat party.
It's the party party.
And we did this whole like video and he, dude, he went on Fox and all these things.
The problem was he was not telling people it was done with Playboy.
So he sort of took it as like this thing
where people were like,
and you're starting this new movie.
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, thanks to Playboy.
It's like, but this was fake.
And I just helped.
Okay, whatever.
And like working with him was also very interesting
because he was so involved in it.
And he also is, dude, this dude came,
he showed up to the first meeting
with a CVS shopping bag as his briefcase.
I'm not even joking.
He had his wallet in there.
He has some keys.
He had a phone in there and like a notepad.
And it was a shopping bag and these like wild ass wraparound like blue blocker sunglasses.
And I remember him coming in this building, putting down his shopping bag and takes his glasses off, folds them very nicely and like very daintily like puts them in his shopping bag as if that were the sunglasses case.
And what about it?
I was more focused on his shopping bag briefcase.
Yeah.
He's like, he's, he's weirdly like minimalist and maximalist at the same time, you know,
like he's like, there's that, but then his concerts and his whole vibe is just like to
the max.
That first album I get wet is just like just like everything is just a pounding party anthem.
Party is in, I want to say, four of the song titles on the album.
Right, right.
And I had a weird relationship with him, too, because I used to ride home from high school with this guy.
And he'd play him a lot.
And I was a little bit more of like a punk music snob
or like Apex Twin kind of stuff.
Sure.
And he would play Andrew WK
and I was just like, this guy's just like a jock.
Like, what is this?
Yeah, right, right, right.
What's the deal with this?
And then I watched him live on SNL
and just the amount of energy
that he gave to that performance on SNL.
I was just like sitting on the floor,
the glow of the TV on my face
and I was just like enthralled. I was like, I'm in, I in I'm fully in you're like I want to take a photo with blood all over
my face now my I used to have a poster that uh that cover in my room and uh one time my my niece
was over at my house and she like wandered in my room and she saw it and my mom like wasn't able to
stop her from seeing the poster she's like what happened and my mom's explanation was like oh no he hit his nose and
he's on the way to the doctor that's right that's how you party man oh yeah uh finally what is a
myth what some of the people think is true you know to be false the the myth is that you can
recycle paper towels you can't recycle paper towels. Oh, really?
Yeah, it's a bummer.
But I'm a little OCD about it at my place
because I'll see paper towels in the recycle
and then I'm picking and putting them in the right spot.
There's something about the fibers of paper towels.
They've been recycled so many times
that the fibers are now too short to be used for anything else.
Also, anything that's greasy.
There's grease on it.
Pizza box, it's a wrap.
Yeah, pizza box.
Oh, really?
I've seen ads with the pizza box thing where if you can get the top of the pizza box off and it's not greasy, you can recycle that.
Right.
But the bottom of it.
The greased part, yeah.
And that's wild, too. The grease thing is something like once they mix all the paper stuff up into whatever that, like, recycle slurry is that they then make new stuff out of, the grease just kind of creates these, like, weird oil bubbles in it and stuff, so they can't use it at all.
Oh, no.
Yeah, paper towels is a big bummer, but then I've also read, like, look, it's something that's been used as many times as it could have been.
If you can, compost it, but otherwise don't put it in the recycle because it'll fuck up the rest of the stuff.
I'm making a big paper towel ball.
Perfect.
It's like Indiana Jones style.
I just can't.
I'm like, you know what?
This has to go to something.
And then just leave it in a room, and anytime you need to wipe your hands, you just roll it.
Yeah, just wipe the big ball.
Kind of wipe the ball, yeah.
How important is it that you rinse out a glass jar that you're recycling?
That's a good question.
I'm definitely not the authority on it by any means,
but I've heard as long as you can kind of get most of the food,
foodie chunks off of it.
Right.
Because they have to do their own cleaning process at the plant too.
Right.
But just like, you know, I guess I would compare it to like
if you wash stuff off of a dish before you put it in a dishwasher maybe like
about that amount you know yeah i don't know word immigrant my immigrant mother in my mind
fucking i'm scrubbing the whole thing about that fucking thing man i used to have to
my god what's a dishwasher didn't have one didn't have one it was me it was my hands yeah
ours was storage yeah yeah exactly it's for extra for the nice dishes going there ours had
like other like food and stuff it's just like another another pantry yeah right no i was like
i yeah i was drilled into just cleaning every fucking thing out because in japan when you do
your recycling you clean the fuck out that shit really yeah you i mean but that's just also i
think culturally inbuilt of just being as thorough as possible.
And it's mostly about not inconveniencing the person on the other end of this transaction,
which would be like the person who has to process it.
You're like, well, let's make their job easier.
Yeah.
I feel it feels better to put out recycling that's been rinsed out.
Oh, yeah.
When I do it, I feel like I'll fire up another coal plant, baby.
Yeah.
Oh, the other last thing that a lot of people do too is don't put it in a trash bag.
Like don't put your loose recyclables in.
In that and then recycle.
Yeah, because then that gets often just mistaken for trash.
And so they'll just throw that whole thing.
They have recycle bags.
If you still want to use bags for recycles,
they have recycle bags that are like translucent blue so that you can see through them.
They're kind of like known as recycle and then that'll help you.
I always use paper shopping bags.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then just dump it in.
Yeah.
Cause then that, that bag can be recycled too.
Boom.
Bow.
That works.
If you need to get a bag at the, at the store, you know, or bring your own.
One of those very straightforward myths that I think is actually helping people.
Well, I also started using your face,
Marcella,
because the paper towels,
I,
I just,
I started using like,
like dish,
like dish towels more.
Yeah.
I mean like going back to that,
that time.
Yeah.
But also like in a Japanese house,
you would have just like one wet,
damp cloth that's used for like wiping or everything like throughout the day.
So you'd all there.
I'm like trying to bring that shit back, the pre...
One damp, one dry?
Yeah, because you would leave it on your dining table,
so then you can wipe up the table.
Or if your fingers were just kind of dirty,
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And so we're continuing to see a little bit of pushback in these United States and quite a bit of pushback in Iran.
From the assassination of Soleimani.
uh from the uh assassination of Soleimani um Rand Paul has come out and said the libertarian senator uh went on Fox to say basically he he doesn't like this yeah that I guess the the most
reasonable thing you could say from coming out of Rand Paul uh his whole thing was just sort of like
yeah if you asked if we're safer now than we were
before Soleimani was killed, the answer is we were safer before all of this happened and how
unnecessary this is. And his whole thing was like, well, I think diplomacy is now not an option
anymore. And he's like, I hate this. I hate this. But I don't know. He's been such a rubber stamp
for Trump. I don't know if he's going to be a full-blown opponent of armed conflict with Iran or he just says this so when he inevitably –
if it comes to some kind of vote where he has to be recorded and go on the record, he'll be like, well, I also did say I hated this.
Right.
Yes.
But I'll also confirm Brett Kavanaugh or whatever I'll do.
Yeah.
So, you know, very – a little bit of pushback.
But I guess, you know, you could – if you had to file that under something, it would be a light push.
Yeah.
And then, yeah.
Is the, so the official position is still that they did it because he was like about to pull the trigger on some.
Which is total horseshit.
Massive, like 24 style, like there's a bomb underneath the convention center.
Yeah, some shit.
like there's a bomb underneath the convention center.
We got to take them out.
But yeah, there's, according to people who don't believe everything the president says,
like nobody really knows why he did it other than to kind of make himself seem like war president. And anyone who has answers has been so cryptic when they're pressed about like, well, what is it?
Then can we see this intelligence?
Like, well, I don't know.
He's like, this is bad.
Something could happen.
Do you think he told Mitch McConnell on that golf trip?
Yeah.
Probably it was about it.
It felt like such a brag when he was like, I knew about it on our golf outing.
Yeah, it's like, oh.
Was that Lindsey Graham?
Oh, sorry, Lindsey Graham.
Lindsey Graham, yeah.
Well, of course, he's – I don't – fuck.
These people are just absolute monsters.
And then when you look at even – another bit of pushback came from Mark Esper, the secretary of defense, who, again, we'll talk a little bit more about how disorganized the Pentagon is.
But he was sort of saying like, oh, yeah, like destroying like cultural sites, Iranian cultural sites.
That's not going to happen.
He's like, we will follow the laws of armed conflict.
The president threatened to destroy 52 different sites,
and some of them cultural sites.
Which is a number tied to the amount of hostages.
The number of hostages, yeah.
It's like straight up terrorist shit.
Well, and also, yeah, you expect the region of the world
where the eye for an eye retaliation philosophy is born out of.
You think you're just going to get away with cultural genocide too?
The whole thing is an absolute mess.
And also the idea that America would follow the laws of armed conflict is also.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
52-52 is a very art of the deal kind of thing right
right oh yeah make it have meaning yes i don't and so we're just kind of waiting around uh because
iran has said that uh or the supreme leader has said that they're going to respond directly. It's not like a proxy will attack a U.S. interest.
It will be a direct attack.
So that's what everybody's sitting around waiting for.
Yeah, and all this while, even Netanyahu was like,
I don't know if that was a good idea.
Right.
Yeah, he's even distancing himself from this shit.
Again, this was so impulsive.
Because we are at that stage now where you're like, man, I wonder how bad this presidency could get.
Right.
We're fucking here now.
Yeah.
Like before it was a lot of just posturing and bullshit.
Obviously, the untold sorrow and pain caused to many other groups of people.
But now we're in that phase where it's now a goal beyond like turning into a global liability yeah so the iraqi parliament
voted to basically uh issue a was it a resolution uh to kick u.s troops out of the country victim
um and yeah to evict them uh yeah it was resolution, which is non-binding, but's been no decision whatsoever to leave Iraq, period.
He like ran ran down the hall and like said it was a mistake.
Right.
The Joint Chiefs chairman confessed the letter was a draft released, quote, by mistake.
And then somebody somebody else suggested that it was like a disinformation
campaign. Like they tried to make it seem like, oh, we're being fucked with by spies. That's
why we're so fucked up. That's why we've gotten everything completely wrong.
Or there's no plan. And this is, I mean, again, I think a lot of people suspect like,
oh, how'd that mess how'd that
letter leak when you're dealing directly with the government of iraq it wasn't leaked they issued it
no no but i'm saying there's one train of thought where they were working on this draft together
because the they were in fact planning on troop withdrawal right unbeknownst to trump therefore
the denials came out right because they're dealing directly with them being like, yeah, yeah,
I guess we'll have to get the fuck out, but
just don't tell old fucking
mashed potato brain.
He's going to get real angry.
Or that
even within that,
there's been such an erosion of trust
between the two governments, they're like, they'll just leak
any fucking thing that they get their hands
on too. They're like, yeah, we don't really,
we're not really interested in this relationship anymore.
Yeah.
Regardless of what the truth is behind this,
it just shows no one is on the same page.
No one has a plan.
And this is just, I don't know,
further revealing the chaos that is existing within the Defense Department
and having to deal with whatever the president's wishes are.
Yeah.
This Daily Mail article says that it would be ordinary to have a contingency plan
that included an advisory letter to a host country.
So it makes sense that this would exist and that there would be a draft of it,
but that a copy surfaced overnight that was translated into Arabic,
and so that suggested
it was finalized language, not a
draft.
It seems like they're just kind of all over the
fucking place. Sometimes you translate stuff into Arabic
for fun. Yeah, exactly.
It's just practice.
Paul Gozar.
Is that how we're pronouncing that?
Gozar the Gozarian. Yeah.
That's straight up a Ghostbusters bad guy.
I think it's Mark Paul Goslar.
Mark.
I didn't realize he was Indonesian.
Mark Paul Goslar.
Yeah.
He's partially Asian.
Is he?
Yeah.
Really?
Shout out to him.
Yes.
I was like, what?
Zach Morris?
Hold on.
Time out.
Yes.
Asian icon.
Mark Paul Gososselaar.
That's wild.
I just want to say, wait, what is it?
Wait, we didn't all freeze when he said timeout.
Oh, timeout.
I don't have the power.
Yeah, his mother, who is of Indonesian and Dutch descent, is from Bali.
Hell yeah.
So just a little fact.
I learned that at an Asian as fuck show at UCB.
Yeah, so Paul Gosar, he's a dentist and he is
one of those... He's a dentist?
Yeah. His handle is Dr. Paul
Gosar on Twitter. Fool.
But he's been known to be a
verified piece of shit. When he was running for
office, his siblings put out
an ad being like, don't vote
for this shitbag, our brother.
He's a racist.
He doesn't deserve any kind of power or responsibility.
Leave this man alone.
He still was elected.
But he is now, oh, just to add to his resume,
he also believed the violence in Charlottesville
was a left-wing plot.
Of course.
How could it not be?
And tried to boycott the Pope
because of all the climate change talk because the
pope acknowledged climate stay in your lane bro yeah like he wasn't he's just anyway this is this
is this him and meatloaf he has nobody in his corner and again he act he now acts like a guy
who has no one in his corner and just gets their jollies from like trolling and the little likes
he can get on posts so he oh on christmas again he posted a video of hillary clinton in a
tv interview where a light stand like fell down like hit her in the head and he's like he's like
remember the reason for the season or tis this is some dumb shit like okay fine uh because yeah
you just like to see women uh get hit with things get harmed um and then on this week, he then posted a photo of what looks like President Barack Obama shaking hands with President Rouhani of Iran and captioned it.
The world is a better place without these guys in power.
Now, this doesn't make sense because, A, the shit is fucking photoshopped from the time at the the time, I think, Obama was meeting with the president of India.
And B, Rouhani is still in power.
So everyone was like, what are you trying to say?
What does this mean?
Do you think this is Soleimani or something?
What are you getting at?
And in true loser, insecure, troll fashion, he goes on the attack.
So he has to explain why he did this dumb fucking photo
one thread okay prepare yourself for threadage one to the dim-witted reporters like at d medin
11 no one said this wasn't photoshopped
no one said the president of Iran was dead.
No one said Obama met with Rouhani in person.
The tweet said the world is a better place without either of them in power.
Two.
Yeah, dimwit.
Two.
Point the two.
The point remains to all but the dimmest.
Yes.
Obama coddled, appeased, nurtured, and protected the world's number one sponsor of terror.
Boom.
The world is better without Obama as president.
The world will be better off without Rouhani.
Yeah.
Face.
How did you not take that from his initial tweet of a Photoshopped photo saying that it's better that both of these guys aren't in power anymore, even though one of them
is and they never met?
No one said this wasn't Photoshop.
Dr. Paul goes, you're a fucking dentist.
Go fuck yourself.
The world is a better place.
We were supposed to read that half is currently without Obama and half will be is a better place.
When Ronnie's out.
Nobody said this wasn't Photoshopped.
Yeah.
It's my favorite thing.
Someone tweeted something like, that's the Gettysburg Address of our modern times.
Nobody said this wasn't Photoshopped.
Yo.
I love it.
What a fucking tool.
Let's check in with Mengazi.
Mengazi.
So Harvey Weinstein trial was supposed to be sort of a boring day.
Two days ago, Monday, things were kicking off with jury selection.
But a couple things happened.
So first of all, Monday, the LADA announced that they were bringing charges because of women women he raped in los angeles uh in
his hotel room uh not that long ago in the past 10 years uh and so they're asking for extra bail
and to remand him in prison while he awaits trial uh because as the new york da pointed out he may
realize just how completely fucked he is.
Just like how bad the evidence is.
He's even more of a flight risk than he was before
because now, even if he thinks he can get off here,
he then has another trial ahead of him in Los Angeles.
And yeah.
So also on Tuesday,
he was texting during the trial, like in the courtroom.
He was on his phone during his own trial?
Such a millennial, right?
I know.
And the judge is famous for being like, no phones in my courtroom.
And he just like was all on that shit, like not even trying to hide it.
The judge flipped out on him flipped out on his
lawyers uh his lawyers were like guys come on this isn't fair that like there's so much information
out there about uh what a rapist our client is uh how's he gonna get a fail fair trial uh and
the judge was like get the fuck out of here so that's where we're at with that I think they're adding another
so he's out on five million dollar
bail for the
New York charges and they added another five million
which I'm sure will have
no problem coming up with although I don't
how the fuck does somebody like this get five million dollars
like just keep
I gotta go fund me going if you guys want to
help him out at all
I mean he he's...
Harve.
This is where they need to...
Big Harve.
You want reform around bail to be like, okay, how much money you got?
Right.
You willing to come up off 80% of that?
Yeah.
Seriously.
Seriously.
That's how that shit affects most other people who get caught up in the legal system.
At least.
It's like...
Yeah, it should be relative, right?
Yeah.
Or just figure out or get rid of the system. I don't system. At least. It's like, yeah, it should be relative, right? Yeah. Or what I mean,
or just figure out
or get rid of the system.
I don't know.
Reform it.
But like,
clearly when you got money
where you can be like,
I think when you're,
when you're at that level,
because most people,
we've noticed there's basically
two legal systems
in this country.
At that level,
I mean,
as if they'd make the rules fair,
it should,
I really feel like you want to,
you want those people
to really consider. It's like, huh, am I really feel like you want those people to really consider.
It's like, huh, do I think I'm that innocent,
or is it worth it to me to put all this money out?
Because then they can just go out and fucking wear your ankle monitor
and go yuck it up if someone's open.
Something proportional, because even if you do get them to do 80%,
they'll just find a way to divert their funds elsewhere
and be like, this is my 80% and now
it's the same thing they do with taxes.
Or people when they're trying to do child support or spousal
support. Exactly. Like Rudy Giuliani
literally quit his job at the beginning of, I think,
of 2019. So he could tell a judge
like, I can't support my
ex-wife. I haven't worked.
It's like, bro, you quit your job so it will look
like you have no income. But most judges
now are used to that trick and they're like, pay up.
Look at all this money I spent on buying Bitcoin.
I don't have any dollars left.
I went to Ukraine a bunch.
Those tickets aren't cheap.
In another Benghazi update, there's a new accuser of the president.
Her name is Courtney Friel.
president uh her name is courtney friel uh she was a fill-in fox and friends uh host and she had said that she would be interested in like being in some way associated with the miss universe
pageant like a judge or something because i guess her background is also uh in the pageant culture
well yeah you can't be an anchor a woman anchor on fox unless you've been right through the pageant culture. Well, yeah, you can't be an anchor, a woman anchor on Fox unless you've been through the pageant system.
So that's the feeder system.
Yeah.
So Trump reached out to her just being, you know, he's like, oh, well, look at that.
I mean, I'm a fan and she wants to be involved with my thing.
So he reached out to her and just wanted to let her know uh that she was the
hottest of them all on fox news oh jesus and also uh invited her up he said uh and this is how we
know it's true because this is like so awkward and specific uh he said you should come up to my office sometime so we can kiss. Which is so...
Jesus.
Yeah.
What?
Again.
Come up to my office sometime so we can kiss.
So we can kiss.
Like, she wouldn't be able to...
That's not...
If you were making that up, you would not say that.
Yeah.
Because it's so weird sounding that it would...
Like, you would come up with something more believable.
Like how Jeff Bezos' I Love You Alive Girl text.
Exactly.
You're like, yeah, okay.
That's some weird billionaire talk.
Yeah.
Again, we have a president.
If you want to put all the crimes out,
you know the number of allegations,
incredible allegations of assault against him,
and it's like, eh.
Yeah.
No, it's cool.
I don't know.
It actually makes people more likely to vote for him
or it makes his supporters more likely to vote for him
because they feel like he stands for old-timey caveman politics,
sexual politics.
He's got Joe Namath's vote.
Yeah.
So Courtney Friel responded, Donald, I believe we're both married.
And I quickly ended the call.
This proposition made it difficult for me to report with a straight face on Trump running for president.
It infuriated me that he would call all the women who shared stories of his bold advances liars.
I totally believe them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, this is the fucking dimension we're in right now.
Yeah.
So,
I mean,
it does seem like literally there's nothing that could happen that would
make his supporters abandon him.
I mean,
yeah,
he's,
I mean,
what we know,
he's got a weird dick.
Right.
He's a sex crim.
Yeah.
He's racist.
Yeah.
He's a liar.
Every time he says something racist or does something
or like it's revealed he's like sexually assaulted somebody his support like strengthens along his
well i mean yeah because i guess that really there's this these people who still are you know
long for this bygone era of misogyny where like that's cool or like or they're like i don't know you know i'm i come
from the school of thought where like boys will be boys yeah or you know that locker room talk
yeah where in the the 2020 version is you know you know sex predators are sex predators yeah
you know but however they want to dismiss it and rationalize i guess that's their prerogative to
try and rationalize their support is is that base
of idiots is it is it small and loud or is it as large as he wants us to believe it is that's like
kind of my question going into the next election is it's it's significant to vote him to president
and to the presidency yeah for sure i guess i guess i always kind of wonder it's enough people to get out the vote, right? But I always wonder, is this kind of the equivalent of an Instagram account that has like 8 million followers, but then only gets 3,000 likes?
Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Well, I think it's one of those things where I think a lot of people are not willing to out loud express what their values are.
But then a lot of them are in line with Trump.
So it only seems like you see the very vocal people,
but the numbers don't lie.
And when they get the voting booth.
Unless the votes are rigged.
Yeah, no, I think they're, it's not just the votes.
He's breaking all sorts of records for funding
and for raising money for his campaign,
for his reelection campaign.
Yeah, there's this dude, Joel Stein, who wrote a book in defense of elitism Raising money for his campaign, for his reelection campaign. Yeah.
There's this dude, Joel Stein, who wrote a book in defense of elitism where he went to the county that had the highest portion.
I think it was 96% of the people in that county voted for Trump.
It was in Texas.
He spent some time with the people who lived there. It wasn't a huge county.
who lived there it was wasn't a huge county but uh he was pointing out that when dinner was served like the men ate first and then the women ate oh shit it was that far yeah and he was saying like
that they're time traveling yeah if you if that's like one of the things that's built into your
way of life and then you hear that like there's this politically correct wave that's coming and
so like uh somebody like trump seems like they're uh you know a wall that's going to protect your
way of life right right um which makes sense to me i mean well and especially for if your values
are not you know up to speed with where most of society is like that's that's like an l people
don't want to take like just for your own ego yeah like to acknowledge where you're like man like am
i am i fucked up yeah fuck that trump baby trump baby yeah yeah don't make me think about this
that's the farthest energy away from oh maybe i should have an open mind and see the other side
like that will never happen yeah there's a there's a max plonk quote that like is really bleak but i love
a lot but it's a basically translated was like science advances one funeral at a time
and it's just kind of like expressing that idea that like there isn't a ton of like minds that
change on things it's more like the bigger effect is like this older generation that is wrong and curmudgeonly and sticking to their beliefs dies off.
And hopefully their kids are the ones that have more of a chance of being a little bit more enlightened along the way.
And when we're older, our generation will probably be the one that's fighting to hang on to shit.
Max Planck, by the way, just one of the all-time sex symbols
of, I don't know if you've seen his picture,
but I just Googled him.
Hell yeah.
That's stache, man.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Talk about the Planck length.
I don't know any physics guys out there.
All right, we're going to take another quick break.
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Yeah.
That's the tagline of the movie, right?
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Hey, Avatar's back, baby.
You won't have to wait much longer relative to how long you've had to wait already because the first Avatar sequel is slated for December 2021.
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Baby, strap up.
So we were talking about this earlier and I mean,
there hasn't been a 3d movie that achieved the levels of,
you know,
full absorption and,
you know,
just being amazing to look at as avatar.
So is it,
is it a thing where it just takes like 10 years to render all that
shit and that's why nobody's done it and it's also why it's taking so long for the sequel to
come out i mean it's probably like the your return on investment like that's what a lot of studios
probably think about it's like to do it good right you probably spend like 400 million yeah to do
that shit litty litty litty i think that's
what didn't the first one cost around that much avatar budget easy to google and that budget was
237 million dollars yeah um so yeah which that's the production budget so you yeah yeah marketing
boy um 150 at least what What? For that marketing.
$150,000.
$150,000 on top of the $237,000.
Oh, I was saying five total.
$237,000 plus probably.
You at least doubled it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I guess we're looking at what?
$387,000 there?
And yet they still use papyrus font for the title.
Yeah, hey, look.
You got to cut corners.
But then you look at it,
it's like,
can we sink $400 million
into a film?
Because that's just going to have to do
at least $401 million.
Yeah.
To make it profitable.
He's pretty reliable
on making things
that look like bad investments
end up being huge money makers.
I think the real credit
to that film
goes to the fact
that people were so
fucked up over how immersive it was.
There were like,
I always talk about this people who were like going to the film constantly
to be like,
I need to be in Pandora.
Yeah.
I have to go to Pandora.
I wish Pandora was real.
I just need to be there.
I will watch the movie every day until they take it out of my theater.
Yeah.
And then there was like,
like cases of like depression
of people who couldn't return to pandora and stuff like that too yeah pandora-less-ness based
sadness yeah i i mean look they they got new concept art yeah so they released new concept
art that honestly i'm looking at it kind of shrunk down a little bit, so maybe it looks really dope up close, but it just looks like some screensaver shit.
It looks like a really good Final Fantasy game.
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
It looks like, say, maybe Crash Bandicoot might pop out from one of these floating rocks.
The first movie, it's not a good movie.
I enjoyed it.
And I think like, it's not, uh, it's not an enjoyment on like an artistic appreciation.
I think like I took it in as this is the biggest piece of cotton candy that humanity's ever
made.
Yeah.
And then you can kind of like consume it that way.
And it's just, you know, it's the sheer spectacle.
There was like, there was a certain point when i had to make that decision in my life in general of like oh i think i need to start
enjoying a lot more of those like mass event like uh let's like loud ass black eyed peas fireworks
like kind of you know spectacle type things yeah and this was like the ultimate one of those yeah
it's like and then you take a second and you're like, wait, is this just about colonialism?
Yeah.
Oh, you can't.
No, you have to turn.
That's part of this is you have to turn off your brain.
Turn off all your historical nuances and be like, hold on.
This is a love letter to colonialism.
Yeah.
You have to.
You can't think about the images it's sending to anyone, to children.
You can't think of like what this means about what we respect as a people.
You have to sit there and laugh
when the pterodactyl flies
by and it looks like it zooms your face.
First you gotta
fuck the pterodactyl with your long ponytail.
Right.
And they have a magical dreadlock that fucks.
Yeah.
Wait, Avatar wasn't a love letter to colonialism.
It was like a dances with wolves, like white guy.
Okay, sure.
I guess there was the themes of colonialism in it too.
There's clearly the mad general who's like,
we're going to take all their resources.
That guy was such an over-the-top villain too.
Yeah.
I think it was Ferngully actually, wasn't it?
Yeah, the direct ripoff was Ferngully.
Right.
For sure.
Everyone's like, this is Ferngully.
And then you start examining it like, okay, there's capitalism in here.
There's racism, colonialism.
There's that scene where they paint with all the colors of the wind.
Was there an unnecessary dance sequence in that too?
No.
At some point, didn't they go to like an Avatar,
like a Navi party and it was like lit?
Yeah, I remember because I feel like they were playing mushrooms and shit
like bongos and whatever.
It was like very supposed to be Native American type.
Yeah.
It also felt, yeah, like dancing.
What did they have, unobtainium?
That's the mineral.
Unobtainium was the mineral.
That's another one, yeah.
Cool.
Very subtle.
Very cool. Very cool. manium was the mineral. That's another one. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. That's very subtle. Very subtle.
Very cool.
Very cool.
Yes.
Uh,
very,
very cool.
Very legal.
Um,
but yeah,
I mean the one thing it is the closest that movies have come to a ride like
Scorsese.
Yeah.
I was talking about how movies like those,
uh,
movies are the,
uh,
comic book films.
Yeah.
Comic book movies are all rides.
I feel like that is...
Now this is a fucking ride.
That is a fucking ride.
In addition to the fact that it's just more
about the experience than anything,
like it just didn't last in our cultural memory at all
like a movie does.
Movies usually like people will use them
as like touchstones to like...
Well, there was nothing new about the film in terms of its storytelling or anything.
It was purely the visuals of it that was different.
Other than that, the movie was trash.
It just dissolved like cotton candy from our collective.
Wow.
Look at that.
Holy shit.
Don't hurt him, Jack.
Tesla, baby. Moving on.urie laughlin no uh yeah tesla you know we
all doubted him guys we all doubted that this man who uh you know came from humble humble beginnings
uh he only had handfuls of uh emeralds in his pockets when he was walking around as a kid.
It's not like he had backpacks full of it. It was just loose emeralds.
No, just loose emeralds in your pockets.
A couple loose emeralds in his pockets. No big deal.
I got loose emeralds in my pocket.
But people have been shorting the Tesla stock for the last year.
It's been the most shorted stock on the stock market.
And Elon Musk said that they were going to become profitable for the first time in the third quarter 2019.
And they did do that.
So people were surprised.
So their stock went up a little bit.
You son of a bitch, you did it.
You son of a bitch.
You did it.
And then they had another good quarter in Q4 of 2019,
and now their stock is up 93% in the last three months.
So this motherfucker is getting it done.
I guess so.
Yeah.
Whatever that is.
Yeah.
It's now the most valuable car company in U.S. history.
It passed GM's market value, which I mean, like, you know, because of inflation, that's probably always going up and up.
Whatever the current most valuable car company in the United States is, is probably the most valuable ever.
But it's still pretty impressive because it's, you know, tangling with these massive ancient companies and it is a upstart.
I think he's wasting his time.
Yeah.
With all this stuff.
Really?
I think he needs to focus on blunts.
Blunts?
Yeah.
How to do them more efficiently, whatever.
Like, what's the Tesla blunts?
He is dating an electronic music like
artist who's really good like she makes good electronic music did you see him dance
yeah that was awful that was the worst thing i've ever seen i was at a wedding i didn't want to be
yeah and he i think he almost did like the Egyptian...
How is he dating Grimes?
They're still together?
I think so.
I think there's been rumors that they're broken up,
but then I think she, her publicists probably float
that they're broken up just because they know
it's not a good look for her.
But I'm pretty sure recently I had the same response.
I was like, wait, they're not still together.
And someone was like, yeah, they are.
I feel like Grime's stock has definitely been going down in the last three months.
Yeah, Grime's stock is at an all-time low, while Tesla's stock, all-time high.
So he's a total nut, no doubt.
But I also think who else is creating more of a push for us to actually start driving motherfucking electric cars right now?
No, for sure.
I think that is so important.
Oh, I think the technology is important.
Yeah.
I think, but that's where I keep it there.
Yes.
I think the technology is important.
Yeah.
And granted, I think SpaceX is now about to be the largest operator of satellites in the world.
That's wild.
That's why I'm almost like, hold on.
Yeah.
You're like a broke ass fucking, what's that motherfucker from Iron Man?
Tony Stark.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what he's trying to do.
Yeah.
Yeah, all the Bond villain shit is definitely scary.
I feel absolutely free to clown on Musk.
But, man, I would love if, like, Tesla's became the most popular vehicle in the next 10 years
and everybody stopped using so much gas.
Why not?
The second one.
Oh, man.
That's why I think Sony just unveiled a concept car.
It's interesting.
Sony?
Yeah, a full-on Sony car.
A foot-long Sony car?
A foot-long subway Sony car.
Damn.
Vinegar and mayo on that, too.
Vinegar, mayo, mustard, and salt and pepper that's in the same shaker.
What if you just wanted pepper?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Can't be done.
Impossible.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I think we're on our way, maybe, to the more electric vehicles.
I realize it's unpopular.
I realize it's a little bit of a devil's advocate thing.
But I do think he is a necessary weirdo right now that is pushing the
market towards okay people actually want like not just hybrids like fully electric vehicles yeah i
think that's important yeah i think he is i i like the design of that truck come on come on guys uh
no but i i think it's as long as we can get our mind around the fact and he can get his mind
around the fact that he's a fucking dork.
Like Tony Stark, the most unrealistic thing about Tony Stark, other than that he can like, you know, hack shit together with a screwdriver, is that he was cool and like funny and like fun to hang around.
Elon Musk is probably none of those things.
And in fact, is definitely a little bit evil based on how he treated that one whistleblower. Anyways, I just like this story
because it proves once again that people who like traders and the people who pay attention to the
stock market, despite the fact that all the smartest people in America go into that shit,
or at least the smartest greedy people,
they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Yeah.
They've been shorting the shit out of that company.
And, hmm.
Hmm.
Huh.
Huh.
Let's talk about Lori Loughlin.
Her defense is basically, I didn't do anything?
We've talked constantly about how she's saying, I'm going to fight the case.
Yeah.
I'm going to fight the case.
Right.
I'm going to fight the case.
That is a good Lori Loughlin impression.
Actually, I just booked the role of Lori Loughlin in the Lifetime movie.
It's going to be a little interesting.
Bong Joo is writing the script.
How do you say that dude's name?
The dude who wrote Parasite?
Who directed Parasite?
Oh, I don't know.
I thought that was right.
Bong Joon-ho.
Bong Joon-ho.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's directing it.
That was a good acceptance speech, by the way, on the Golden Globes.
What was his?
He basically called us all idiots.
Oh, he did?
The second you guys can get past the one-inch barrier
of the subtitles at the bottom
of the of like the subtitles at the bottom of the screen uh you're gonna have like a whole world of
really great movies open up to you oh that's so cool yeah well yeah because he's like uh i don't
i don't know if you've seen what your country's cranking out right there's xeroxes of xeroxes
right like and meanwhile we're doing some real shit over it is interesting that this movie has broken through as much as it has Parasite I think it's really like because there's like a
class thing going on like the same with Joker and Parasite is really about class like in a very
deep and interesting and like visceral way yeah and I think also just Korean media is having a
big a big moment moment in the world.
Like a lot of people are very, yeah, being like, yeah, we fuck with the K-pop.
Like, oh, what's up with the movies?
Yeah, would this have broken through without the K-pop stans?
I don't know, man.
And their box office budget.
Is there Snowpiercer without BTS?
Right.
Without Blackpink or Pink Black?
It's the question of our times.
Yeah, without losing 33 pairs of ipods in one year
like that one member of bts um okay so laurie laughlin we just know she was saying i didn't
know i couldn't do that but now we're starting to see what her actual defense is so again she
her their daughters you know they're supposed to be like rowing they're like doing rowing crew
they photoshopped her into or they just took a photo of them on rowing machines.
Okay.
Dude, they're in the lab just getting fucking yoked for these regattas.
And so I guess the defense is that those photos were never actually submitted to USC.
Therefore, they weren't defrauding the university.
And also they were just saying, this guy Rick Singer,
we just gave him $500,000 because he said,
he's like a dude we consult with him to get our daughters in.
We didn't know that money was going into a bribe.
Give us a break.
Right.
Also, I mean, come on, man.
USC's trash.
I'll never let that go. This has been brewing up, Dave. I just don't know. Yeah, it. USC's trash. I'll never let that go.
This has been brewing up, Dave.
I just don't know.
Yeah, it's just an odd...
I mean, I guess that's the defense, though.
It's just very simple.
He never said the 500K was to pad someone's pockets over downtown LA
and get our kid in that way.
So did we really do anything wrong?
If anything, this guy defrauded us.
Therefore, innocent Lori Loughlin
Mossimo out. Yeah.
I mean...
Guys, hear me out. Lori Loughlin is
doing the most to drive the electric car market.
Despite what you say, despite the criticisms.
There is a net benefit
for society with this.
There was also that rumor that went around that she had hired somebody to give her jail classes, like to prepare her for jail.
Not true.
That's not true.
Although that is a thing people do.
Yeah.
Is it really?
Well, I knew a dude.
Will Ferrell?
No.
Okay.
And he hired this guy, Kevin Hart, to braid his hair.
And he hired this guy, Kevin Hart, to braid his hair.
There was somebody in the neighborhood, in the valley, who we all knew was about to go to prison.
And legit hired a dude to sort of be like, look, you're a white kid who's about to go into an actual penitentiary.
Prepare yourself.
And started lifting mad weights and stuff and doing stuff like that I mean it's probably different
I'm sure Lori Loughlin
would go into a different prison
right
than that
so that's why
like many people
I think were just laughing
at the idea that she
have you seen a picture
of her lately though
she's fucking yoked
she's ripped
yeah
and has like a sick neck tattoo
just no neck dude
she's like winged
she can't even get her arms
by her sides
sorry bro
Ollie it's been a pleasure having
you, man. Oh, hell yeah, guys. Thanks for having me.
Where can people find you, follow you?
On Instagram, I am
at Ali underscore
Gondour. That last name is G-H-A-N
D-O-U-R.
And on Twitter,
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because my Twitter handle is
so fucked up.
I made a mistake when I made it, and now it's like a good password that nobody can crack.
But yeah, search for Ali on Twitter, and I should pop up.
Yeah.
And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Oh, yes.
I'm going to pull a huge Audible just because we were talking about Avatar so much.
From my friend Ryan Rosenberg.
He is at Chosenberg.
He had a tweet that said, excuse me, this is Navy Blue.
I asked for Navi Blue.
Navi Blue.
Miles, where can people find you?
Oh, man.
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey.
Also, you can find us on the stage at the Gateway Theater,
January 25th in San Francisco as part of SF Sketch Fest
with special guests Demi Adjouibe and Michael Swain.
Yeah, yeah.
That's going to be a live show.
That is going to be.
Like it's live.
Indeed.
And come say what's up to us.
You can get those tickets at sfsketchfest.com.
And also, check out our other live dates because we've got a world tour coming up.
Where can they check those out?
Are those on our website?
We've been tweeting them out.
Yes.
And just follow us on Twitter.
And also, we're in Portland.
We're going to be in D.C.
We're going to be in Brooklyn.
We're going to be in Minneapolis. We're going to be in Toronto and Chicago. We're going to be in Brooklyn. We're going to be in Minneapolis.
We're going to be in Toronto and Chicago.
That's just the first leg.
That's the first leg, guys.
And as we know, the Zeitgang has nine legs.
So there'll be eight more legs to follow.
Wait, are we like a spider with a giant dong?
Yeah, or just one with a mutation.
Okay.
However you want to look at it.
Some call it a dong.
Some call it a giant leg.
Okay, a tweet that I like is from... I mean, this is just...
Everyone's been loving this tweet.
It's from Ken Klippenstein.
It says,
U.S., we want Iraq to have a democracy.
Iraq votes to remove U.S. troops.
U.S., no, not like that.
A couple tweets I've been enjoying.
Domino Books, at Domino Comics, tweeted, so there was a Hill article,
Chelsea Clinton reaps $9 million from corporate board position.
Domino Books tweeted, I delivered food to Chelsea multiple times for my job.
She always tipped $0.
So cool, cool Chelsea.
And then Christy Yamaguchi-Main uh one of the great aka uh authors muses
yeah we're that isn't that was yeah he is the author he is the shakespeare of aka
he tweeted co-worker of mine got a tattoo of a wolf that's supposed to be a nordic god or some
shit and i won't stop calling it pokemon names like Flareon and Ninetales
and he got so mad he's into
rebel flags and shit so I like fucking with him
shout out to him
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Miles, what's that going to be today?
This is from Kamal Williams, who is from the UK and actually is like a dope producer, but
also did an album with this other drummer, someone, Yusuf.
They had a group called Yusuf Kamal.
I've played their tracks before, but this is from Kamal Williams.
Very jazzy, okay, because, you know, I like rhythm.
I like live instruments.
And this is called New Heights by Kamal Williams.
Let's reach New Heights.
Come on.
Come on, Elon.
New Heights.
Give me that Tesla blunt so I can reach New Heights.
He should run for president. Now there new heights. He should run for president.
Now there's the guy who should run for president.
Oh, hell yes, dog.
Finally.
Dude, the blunt agenda.
Glad somebody said it.
The blunt agenda.
Joe Rogan, now there's who should run for president.
All right, we are going to ride out on that.
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