The Daily Zeitgeist - Pope Apologizes For Non-Apology, Millionaires Too Broke For Moon? 08.02.22

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

In episode 1300, Miles and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by comedian and host of Never Seen It, Kyle Ayers, to discuss... Golf Fans Not That Into Saudi Arabian/Trump Sportswashing Tournament..., The Pope’s Canadian “Apology Tour” Didn’t Go So Well, Wanna Get Away? Researchers Have Found A Nice Spot For Humans On The Moon and more! Golf Fans Not That Into Saudi Arabian/Trump Sportswashing Tournament The Pope’s Canadian “Apology Tour” Didn’t Go So Well Indigenous people hope Pope Francis goes beyond apology after visit to Canada Catholic dioceses previously failed to raise money promised to survivors. Will they now? Canadian government says pope's apology not enough for abuses of Indigenous children Pope calls for 'serious investigation' into historic Catholic abuses of native Canadians Translation error behind Pope's call for 'investigation' into residential schools: organizers Gift of headdress to Pope draws condemnation from some First Nations people in Manitoba Residential school compensation must be paid before any papal visit, say survivors, advocates Wanna Get Away? Researchers Have Found A Nice Spot For Humans On The Moon LISTEN: Mantra by Makaya McCravenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 248, Episode 2 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. Diet Coke. into america's shared consciousness it's tuesday october 22nd and that means one thing it's national night out day national coloring book day and national ice cream sandwich day joelle what
Starting point is 00:02:31 what do you like those three things night out coloring book ice cream sandwich miles i think you said october instead of august i said please leave this in justin i'm having a lot of problems right now it's august why the fuck did... See? You ready for fall too. I get it. Yeah, I think I'm honestly... I don't know what the fuck happened. I'm using this as justification to not pay rent. I love it. What do you mean? It's
Starting point is 00:02:56 October 1st or October 2nd. Joelle, of those things, on August 2nd... Ice cream sandwich. What was the other option? Night out day. It's weird to was the other option? Night out day. Ooh. It's weird to say night out day. Night out day is dumb, okay?
Starting point is 00:03:08 It can only happen in the evening. It's a Monday. It's a week organized day. Oh, never mind. No, no. Fuck this. It's an op. It's an op.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Get out of here. It's an op. It's meant to fuck it. You know what it's meant to do? Promote police community partnerships. Ew. No, no, no. We're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow. No, we're not doing that. It's Leo season, so I don't have to choose. So I so i would say coloring books and ice cream sandwiches uh as i get in touch with my inner child in therapy that is the vibes are you when you were coloring like okay my method when i first started to like be in the lines is i would do my first lines that were near the line first right so you could bold so then i could go fucking ham. And then shade. That's how professional painters paint around light fixtures and stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So I think that just shows that you're skilled at an artistic level very early. Or I grew up in a high pressure. I know how to make sure that stays neat. Or at a high pressure household where perfection was king.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I don't know what that did to me. Are you an only child? Or the eldest child? I'm the only, you know know So that comes with its whole other Kind of therapy that you need anyway Like I said it's Tuesday August Second not October second my name Is Miles Gray aka
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Starting point is 00:04:42 Clarence Thomas, Robert and I go deeper than I ever thought I needed to on a topic like that. Anyway, I'm thrilled to be joined by my guest co-host. You already heard me evoke her name. Like some kind of god. I'm like, please, Joelle, Joelle, Joelle. And the third time she will make herself known. Please welcome Joelle Monique! AKA Candyman, apparently.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I'll just pop out of a mirror if you say my name multiple times but the but the og one yeah yeah the good one the good one now i like the new candy man i'll stand firm in this category i don't care i really liked it oh then was the new one good i liked it nita kosa directed it um but i really like her work listen if you're gonna go back to chicago and examine what happened at cabrini greenGreen through a horror film, I'm pretty much all the way in. Yeah, it's fun. And I don't even mean to say like, oh, only the original, because that's just me being old and only like watching the original. And when I heard the new one come out, I was like, I'm old.
Starting point is 00:05:38 The OG makes an appearance and it's really good to hope when he shows up. Oh, shit. Okay. Okay. Well, please welcome our guest today. Jo. Well, please welcome our guest today. Joelle, help me welcome our guest today. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm in it.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Let's do it. I wish she'd say no. Nah. Fuck him. I'm the guest today. OK. Yo, honestly. Yeah, I actually don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:59 But I do. We do. He's a hilarious stand up comedian. Frequent guest. You may know him from places like, I don't know, Conan. That's like on TV. Or maybe his fucking wonderful
Starting point is 00:06:12 show, Boast Rattle, which is a compliment battle, not about smoking somebody going negative, but going to the positive. Please welcome to the microphone, to the proverbial stage, Mr. Kyle Ayers! Yeah. It's me. A-K.a. a.k.a. You are a.k.a. out there in the world.
Starting point is 00:06:33 What's up, Kyle? A.k.a. No, nothing. You know, all the stuff. Candyman gave me nightmares my whole life. The original one. I saw it when I was way too young. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Like, you know know at a sleepover and it just gave me nightmares forever why it is so i revisited it as an adult and i was like it's good it's not like you know i was just afraid of everything but right right i did not see the new one either but i would love to okay but i'm trying to think there was a tweet last week i was just thinking about this that said like what what's a film that gave you nightmares that you'll always that will always sit with you and i have the weirdest answer for that or not a weird answer but i was just curious what did you put that as the film that gave you the most nightmares it gave me it perpetually gave me reoccurring nightmares in and yes i don't have nothing to do with anything with the plot or any you know when
Starting point is 00:07:26 you're little you just like i was just picking this up it was an insane thing for our friends my friend's parents to show a bunch of like eight-year-olds right right right right a crazy movie and then to be like go to bed and you're like nah i'm good for this yeah like not after that shit yeah the movies that really scared me coming up are equally ridiculous alec baldwin's the spirit which is not at all horror film but like no but being afraid of him has aged well it really freaked me out i had my dad like are we at a like a mock movie theater in the basement i had to have my dad like walk me upstairs I was like, that's so scary And then the other one is
Starting point is 00:08:08 Starship Troopers Which I saw Like you, way too young And the whipping scene And then giant bugs And SS officers It was really scary for me That was my first on-screen boob I ever saw
Starting point is 00:08:21 Once again, at a birthday party Way too young We went and saw that in theaters no my children i was actually in a groomsman at that kids now adults wedding and asked to give a second speech which is a nightmare situation his brother was the best man and his brother was giving a speech and his brother goes kyle's funny we'll have him do some stuff after i'm done which is on the spot at a wedding is an insane thing to do to somebody so i just told the story about when kevin's mom took us to see starship troopers and i saw boobs and i ate candy and threw up a great story for a nice dress yep the film i
Starting point is 00:08:58 saw that i don't know why i saw it at such a young age was dav Lynch's Eraserhead. Oh, okay, yeah. I saw, my dad played that shit for me when I was like four. Okay? And I was like, he was like, oh man, he's like we gotta watch this art film. I was fucking terrified. And I
Starting point is 00:09:20 think to this day, it's one of the reasons I don't like shit in black and white, because it reminds me of how you know, it was like this feeling where like when you watch a scary movie and it's so scary, you feel like you can't escape what's scary on the screen. Like you can't even you can't ground yourself in reality and be like, I am not in the room with this dancing chicken body thing. You're like, it's not. It is real. This fucking me up. Anyway, thanks, Dad.
Starting point is 00:09:42 As you get older, David Lynch stuff becomes scary for different reasons. Right. You're a kid. It's very me up. Anyway, thanks, Dad. As you get older, David Lynch stuff becomes scary for different reasons. Right. You're a kid that's very surface level. Now I'm like, he reads the weather every day on his YouTube. Yeah. And I'm afraid of that because it's getting so hot. The weather in Los Angeles is a balmy 93 degrees. He's always thinking of a song, and it's either like the most obscure jazz song from 1908 that you've ever heard or like Get Back by the Beatles.
Starting point is 00:10:09 It's like I was thinking of Get Back by the Beatles. Upstart band from Liverpool. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out David Lynch is weird. Him and my mom have the same birthday, I think. Anyway, we're going to get to know you, Kyle, a little bit better. But first, we're going to tell people what we're going to talk about today.
Starting point is 00:10:28 First, we're going to just check in with if golf fans are fucking with Saudi Arabia's new sports washing project, the LIV Golf Invitational. Spoiler alert, they're not. But we'll get into the details of that because they just had their big gold tournament over the weekend. Then we'll check in. The Pope recently said, you know, after going to Canada, I might have to retire. And I was like, wait, what happened in Canada? Maybe because it was a series of non-apologies and awkward moments for the Catholic Church. We'll check in with that quote unquote apology tour from Pope Francis. Then we'll also just talk about just a little update from the moon. Turns out there's some pretty chill spots on the moon that are a nice 63 degrees Fahrenheit all the time. So moon colonizers, get your wallets out. But first, Kyle, we got to ask you, our guest,
Starting point is 00:11:19 what's something from your search history, I meant history. That is revealing about who you are. My search is gender neutral. So herstory or history are both fine by me. From my the last thing I Google search was how do you know when jalapenos are ready to pick? Oh, I have a jalapeno plant. That's doing very well. Oh, I only plant this doing well. It's right out my window.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And I don't I'm so I'm like, when do you when can you eat them? Yeah. And everything you look up, they're just like kind of you know which is not helpful like in any capacity right they're just like you know you know look at look at them when they look like it and i'm like well i don't they don't look like they're on top of nachos at a baseball game so i need you to give me more information they don't know they have the same vinegary taste that they do out of the can. When are they going to be ready? They're like other peppers, though, where they change colors, right? Yeah, that's, I mean, it's,
Starting point is 00:12:11 you know, you dive into any world, but the world plant people really, every world has like a deep culture, but plant people seem to be an isolated deep culture. It's like I googled, like, what happens if no one likes you? And so I'm down'm down so it turns out they're like you're ready this whole time one caterpillar ate a whole jalapeno and I'm like
Starting point is 00:12:31 that dude is vibing somewhere you got the hungry caterpillar in your house now he's over in a different plant that beef but he's yet he's like wearing a drug I picked I made a wing sauce with him it was so hot that it cleared my nasal passages. I'm just doing this alone. How big are your jalapeno peppers getting? Because when I see them at the store, I see some thick ones. These ones are less store,
Starting point is 00:12:57 more farmer's market, saddest stand that you're avoiding eye contact as you leave. But they're doing alright. And they keep growing, which is nice. The rest, everything else is dying. that you're like avoiding eye contact as you leave. But they're doing all right. They're doing all right. And they keep growing, which is nice. It makes me feel... The rest, everything else is dying. Tomatoes aren't doing good.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Everything else is dying. But jalapenos. Has the jalapeno... Right when you logged on, before we went on mic, we noticed that you're a smoothie gang. Joelle, are you smoothie gang too? Are you smoothing it up? Yup.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Green power smoothie. I can see the color through your straw seems like a traditional red berry-ish vibe at the very least dragon fruit in this i'm not okay a lot of dragon fruit kyle you lifted your cup now can you can you lift it into frame one more time i'm looking at this cup what what what is in that that i don't know from dirt it looked i i don't know i don't know but one of the things coconut, but that's not that color. Spinach, but that's not that color.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And they're also not the colors that mix together. I don't know. It has some ingredients. I don't know a lot of these more obscure fruits and vegetables and things, and I'm afraid to pronounce them. One time I was a judge on a spelling bee, and I had to give out the words. I one time I was a judge on a spelling bee and I had to give out the words and this was for a charity spelling bee for like Warby Parker in the lower east side so picture the people that are at this right wait who are the contestants like the Warby Parker employees like the ceo like all the oh my it's like they're like an internal event for them it's like here's it's like their
Starting point is 00:14:20 Christmas party yeah and I said to out loud to these people your your word is akai oh no and i've never seen more thick frame glassed white people upset right it's literally like i accused them of gentrifying the lower east side they were all so defensive so quickly people were screaming acai. And I'm like, look, I can't even afford the fruit that's your spelling word. Right, right, right. That's also just the irony of those people being like, oh, you're mispronouncing it. Excuse me. Sorry, no one here actually wears prescriptions. And it was just I've so I'm afraid to say whatever is in this smoothie but it's
Starting point is 00:15:05 a lot of a's and o's and vowels asparagus you're like i don't know is that what it is it's got some aspergis uh asparagus right i think cacao i think i'm dyslexic every time i see cacao i think it's cocoa same oh i just when i see it i just think of it as the thing that wasn't actually chocolate growing up like when you saw like in la i remember like in the eight like 90s and shit they're like with cacao and it looked brown and i'd be like oh really and i'm like that's not fucking the fuck out of here with this shocky as hell cacao has not made its way to missouri yet let alone when i was growing up yeah Yeah, no, you're good. You're better off.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And look at you. You're drinking healthy stuff, and I'm drinking old, stale ranch waters. I thought you were going to say Old Bay. I'm drinking Old Bay. I'm drinking Old Bay. Just a nice cup of Old Bay. Just a cup of watered-down Old Bay seasoning. It could be tasty.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Kyle, what's something you think is underrated? Underrated? Retweeting yourself. Just could be tasty. Kyle, what's something you think is underrated? Underrated? Retweeting yourself. Just retweet yourself. No one cares. What are we doing? No one sees anything anymore. The feed doesn't matter. It's all fake. You don't see any of your friends.
Starting point is 00:16:17 None of it's real. Just retweet yourself. Sometimes if I just don't have any jokes to think of, I'll just search my name and then like the word sandwich. Oh, in 2009, I tweeted a joke about sandwich to think of, I'll just search my name and then the word sandwich. In 2009, I tweeted a joke about sandwich chai, and then I'll just retweet that out. Who cares? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:16:33 I love a retweet, especially when it's something on current subject, and I feel like not enough people have interacted with it. I'm like, no, second time around, let's see what happens. Sorry I was up at 2am. You missed it yeah it'll be it's it's funny that you say that like no one cares because i as someone who like doesn't use social media as well as they could like when i see when back in the day when i would
Starting point is 00:16:55 see like friends and bands like use like their band account to retweet their like personal tweet like just to kind of get something going and i'm'm like, well, hold on. Now you cheat. Right. See, now you got bots involved. Especially because that was Beyonce using the Destiny's Child account to try and push her album. I wish Destiny's Child had been around during the age of social media.
Starting point is 00:17:16 What a gift it would have been for me. It really would. They'd still be together. Destiny's Child Twitter? Can you? If that episode of Smart Guy came out, well, there was Twitter around. Are you kidding me? we would have all been on the floor it would have been insane yeah absolutely beautiful moment in history shout out taj maury just retweet yourself
Starting point is 00:17:34 just do it it's fine no one i think it's like all game against us it's it's another case of like overthinking everything and no one thinks about you as much as you do which is something i struggle with in my therapy a lot 100 100%. 100%. Just retweet yourself. And right. And the worst voice in your head is the thing that you criticize other people about. You know what I mean? Think about how I would do that.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You think when you scroll by something. That's what everyone else is doing. They don't care. I've never scrolled by something and I'm like, I cannot believe they're retweeting themselves. Or I cannot believe a screenshot of a tweet on Instagram. I just, you just scroll. Look, we're all sad.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Right. We're all just here for the shit. We're all dealing with shit, man. Pick your fucking battles. Yeah, it's getting hotter outside. So I'm not worried about retweeting yourself. 100%. What's something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:18:19 I had a, I wrote, I got in a conversation about this and then I was looking at the topics today and the LIV tour, which looks like a golf tour named after a Super Bowl. The LIV tour made me think, I think sports records are overrated. I think all this records, I think there should be like one to two that matter in every sport. I think that no one, when you hear about like, did you know he's the first player to bat 312 on Wednesdays if Mercury's in retro? And I'm like, I don't care. Just say he's funny. Like, I don't. The only sports records that matter are the huge ones.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Most home runs or like most points or like. The only baseball record I actually think matters is most birds hit by a pitch. And that's one. And that no one and that no one's gonna break unit they might tie it is Randy Randy the only one who blew up a bird with someone else probably has but I feel like if you get two that's suspicious like if you break that record if you get to two birds hit with a pitch then I think we should that you should stop the game and do like a big Cal Ripken Cal Ripken ceremony and everything but I'm just I'm over it I'm over like
Starting point is 00:19:24 the very obscure I know they got to fill time it. I'm over like the very obscure. I know they got to fill time. It's a baseball game. Wait, so tell me, what are you hearing that like is just, what's grinding your ears? Well, I watch, I'm a Royals fan. Okay. And so there's not a lot of like positive things to talk about.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I put their games on in the background. Like your vaccination record? Oh yeah. Oh, I mean, look, we're winning and losing at that i thought you meant i put it on in the background like no i just like that one player who's like yeah you know maybe if i played on a team that went to the postseason i think about getting back yeah and another guy played for them another guy did that they traded a guy to the yankees and he's like i'll get this vaccine wow but to be fair getting the vaccine in missouri is a way to get beat up so i think
Starting point is 00:20:07 it uh whether they're filling time in royals games it's insane you have to talk for three hours a day about the royals so these guys are just like you know this guy's as far as catchers who are over six five he swings at the least amount of inside pit and i'm like this nobody who else qualifies for this right i mean yeah it's like it's like all they have all they have is like massive spreadsheets and like i don't know dude i'm gonna try and find something interesting about this specific corner of the spreadsheet yeah i find it so impressive as somebody who plays dnd which is a game that involves a lot of rudimentary math, that baseball is like, no, we'll see you, D&D, and raise you crazy calculus. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Not just in how we track our players and their abilities, but in how we recruit and develop teams over time. It is wild. I understand why there's still a certain segment of the population that is baseball-obsessed just for that alone. Right, just for, yeah. Right, just, yeah. I like the stats. Give me all of that,
Starting point is 00:21:09 because I'm sure as hell I'm not going to know them. I like the stats. I don't need the comparative records and all that. But baseball is a sport that is more fun to talk about than it is to watch. It's like it lives on the page in a good way. But I don't need to know, like, and the NBA is also guilty of this
Starting point is 00:21:25 where they'll be like well you know as far as players under 23 who put up 11 rebound 10 assist games yeah before christmas and you're just like what who are we possibly if kwame brown is on the list it's not a record come on you don't want him coming for you, too, now. He has plenty of time to listen. Oh, my. I mean, look, no lies detected. I have to say, behind you is a basketball jersey that says, let's say, the Valley 818. Yeah, it does. And I know that that's like an area code thing. But it's fun for me to picture a team that has 819 players.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And this guy is just like really late that day. And he's like, do we pick numbers already can i be number 16 uh do decimals i can give you about uh 16 plus 8 12 if that works or plus 6 never mind my math as far as players who have triple digit numbers that match up with area codes where their team plays who've scored 20 points he's he's one of the few that's what's funny too some other like even in soccer there's like all these other things like xg like expected goals or expected goal threat and they put all these numbers up when half the time it really like over analysis using math
Starting point is 00:22:37 sometimes if you get too caught up and it really takes the enjoyment out out of merely like you're saying just observing the people play and be like, wow, cool. I just don't need to know, think, you don't need to frame everyone to be like an all-time great player for one obscure thing. I do like baseball and the fact that maybe the best baseball movie ever was just some guys talking about math.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I think that's pretty fun. And they're just like, numbers are crazy, right? And you're like, this is the best baseball movie of all time. There's so little baseball. They're like, oh my god, Jonah? And you're like, this is the best baseball movie of all time. There's so little baseball. They're like, oh, my God. Jonah Hill is a goddamn gift. For a sport that you can win by walking the most, they sure do talk about math a lot. Right.
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Starting point is 00:27:34 And we're back. And yes, right before this, you were going to say the LIV Golf Invitational Tournament was something you thought was overrated, but I think it is important that people hear about this. Most people probably heard about the tournament when they saw that picture of Donald Trump, like sweating in his cap from like last week. And everyone's like, whoa. And you're like, no, that's from this other thing that's equally offensive. So the L.I.V. Well, first of all, it is the official take of the Daily Zeitgeist that we want to nationalize the golf courses and make them parks for people to just kick it in rather than becoming these like tax free havens where people can say the resources and tax breaks. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:28:13 We're coming for your golf courses. It's crazy that you called someone's deceased ex-wife a resource. Yeah. Well, we'll get to that part. Well, maybe we'll start off with that. So the LIV Golf Invitational is this wannabe competitor to the PGA. For those who don't know, that's like the NBA for professional golf. And the catch is it's entirely funded by the Saudi government. So we've heard of Prince Mohammed bin Salman and his
Starting point is 00:28:36 numerous violations in the human rights category, like the extrajudicial killing of Jamal Khashoggi or the war in yemen there's plenty of things that you can look at right now and be like what's why are we always it is wild to be like from the makers of 9-11 comes golf yeah right and this was the thing the tournament was going to be at none other than trump's uh bedminster golf club in new jersey and many 9-11 families were saying like dude you even said like after 9-11, the Saudis had something to do with this, but please don't do this. So because of all the bad press, to put it lightly, that the kingdom of Saudi Arabia is facing, you know, they're,
Starting point is 00:29:16 they're doing this thing like many nations will do, which is like, you know, or companies, they do green, like polluters do greenwashing where suddenly British petroleum, it's like, companies, they do green, like polluters do greenwashing, where suddenly British Petroleum is like, we're pushing the future for like a cleaner, safer ocean. We're like, really? We didn't see that shit that happened in the Gulf? All right, whatever. And then with nations like Saudi Arabia, they are getting into something called sports washing. And this is something that happens where you see a government basically take over a team or a sport and use the spectacle of sport to create like a positive connotation or relationship with people to be like, oh, Manchester City is a great team.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I'm I will I will not look to into the the crown prince who is also running this team because they bring us glory. The Saudi Arabian government also bought like this other English Premier League team called Newcastle United. So they're like kind of all in on using this like spectacle of sport to distract people. And the formula for these kinds of ops is like, it's always the same. You bring out barrels of cash, you get a few big names to compromise their dignity and ta-da, you've got the whole thing going. And they definitely got the first bits right. They got people like Greg norman and phil mickelson like donald trump and a few other pga players to like jump ship take the bag and the funny thing was every single player who left the pga to do this liv thing they were every single person was adamant that they're not doing it because of the money like almost if you go through quote by quote of people announcing
Starting point is 00:30:40 they're leaving the pga for the liv it's some version of, it's not just about the money for me. Or this wasn't a financially motivated decision. I would only respect them a little bit if they said, if they were just like, of course it's about the money. They're terrible people. I like money. Right. Charles Barkley even started drifting that way, and then it got too hot, and he's like, yeah, actually, never mind, never mind, never mind. I can make money other ways.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I do believe that Charles Barkley has no idea. Like, I honestly believe that he'd be like, wait, they're bad? Because he just doesn't. No. He's informed him what he's informed about, and he's honest about everything. I love Charles Barkley. I really, really do. So I'm glad he didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:31:15 No, and I think he just came around. He's like, oh, I didn't know it was bad. Yeah. I thought it was bag. I thought it was a bag. So I showed up for that. I didn't know it was a bag. I wondered why they brought me all my money in individual briefcases so it wasn't caught on camera insensitive joke and i apologize
Starting point is 00:31:29 about it uh the trophy is cut up into individual parts and carried out by different people well the thing is this over the weekend we saw the first big test of the liv golf invitational they promised to be an edgier cooler version of the pga which i don't know how you're gonna do that it's still golf and people wearing khakis and fucking under armor polo shirts so okay go off and they had a jaw-dropping 25 million dollar purse that all the players were playing for in the tournament they were blasting apparently top 40 music out of speakers like constantly to try and like liven shit up. And they also had t-shirt cannons that would shower the spectators with
Starting point is 00:32:09 shredded up DHS documents. They don't know anything about America. They have not studied America. Cause I could have told you how you could have made this profitable and epic. And it was not by hiring old PGA golfers. Okay. Well here,
Starting point is 00:32:21 let me first finish. Remember the guy who lost in the nineties? He's back. I went in lost in the 90s he's back i went in sync in the background yeah great hey shark hat guy is the face of this thing greg norman oh what who this sponsorship with macy's expired two decades ago and he's ready yeah his sponsorship with robinson's may company like what's that oh y'all never heard of that never mind so the thing is despite all these despite having a who's who of turds show up like you tucker carlson and kim gilfoyle and the other like trump progeny no one fucking showed up they were selling tickets for
Starting point is 00:32:57 75 bucks at first if you wanted to go on the day they were selling shits for a dollar on stubhub one dollar the fees cost more than the ticket the fees were like five dollars and fifty cents or something like that so all in you're paying about seven dollars if you buy a ticket to the liv tour off stub hub that is just back-to-back dictatorships you're supporting you are you are giving half your money to one and half your money to the other right exactly and the other thing like, the Facebook live feeds that they were doing, the streams and stuff, they couldn't even break the 1,000 viewer mark for, like, concurrent viewers. You know how, like, you want to see it go to the K, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah. You don't want to know exactly how many people there are. Yeah, exactly. Not 762, not 283. 1K? 2K? No, it never happened and in true autocratic fashion the organizers refused to release any numbers on the actual attendance so it can't be an l if the official numbers aren't
Starting point is 00:33:53 there so i will i do want to say this joelle you said you already know where they where they fell short yeah knowing the problems that they've had knowing the abysmal attendance what what what what kind of things would you suggest to crown prince muhammad bin salman okay listen i would never give them actual advice because what a horrible fucking person but if i were to be approached by a company and said i have bags and bags of money make golf cool in america right first of all you want to do you start with mini golf you want to get an eclectic mix of tiktokers and sports folks who don't have a viable business idea that some white person's gonna listen it's it's cut me a check okay okay cut her a check you heard i don't know why you called steph curry
Starting point is 00:34:37 some white person because i think you already did the first part of it you want to get like a lebron james type somebody who's really good at their sport but not really playing it anymore and be like come get into quote like extreme mini golf right the the uh what do you call that thing the not a ferris wheel but a windmill windmill you get those blades are on fire oh shit okay go on right go on you got me you you sometimes have one where you like golf over a bridge the bridge is like an actual fucking bridge like it's got a full arch so you got to hit it with like enough speed to get it over but then like the back arch is angled at such a degree that you need to have like it has to slow down or it's going to shoot right over the whole other side right you know so you gotta
Starting point is 00:35:16 get really technical skills but it's all like silly and big and then you know get a halftime show bam americans will eventually buy in okay right you make it free for a bunch of the rest of the tiktok people who couldn't play you tell them to come bring their cameras that's free publicity right there you have to right all you do or even take regular golf and make it like an online multiplayer game where like you could be like actually greg norman activated the whiffle club button and now phil mickelson has to tee off with a plastic golf club. I would watch the whole thing if it was,
Starting point is 00:35:48 we start by trying to see if Greg Norman can log into his Gmail with no help. Does he know what a captcha is? Does he remember his password? He doesn't have a sticky note. I'm a fucking human, mate. Willie choke on the last two letters like it's the 18th at the Masters. Wow. For some reason, Nick Cannon is the host.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I don't know why. Why not? Americans love him. He's consistently successful on television. America's favorite multi-dad. It's Nick Cannon. He's pre-taped his hosting of the golf tournament like it's his radio show.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Right, right. Like all irrelevant stuff glossing over the most important things oh shit he has he has selected power drive it's like wait this is from lee carvalho's golf never mind and the simpsons if they really want to have this if you want to try and pull in more american fans to this, I think what they, they could maybe keep it kind of the same, but if you want people to just start talking about Pat Tillman, if you want,
Starting point is 00:36:51 now, Pat Tillman, who was a former NFL player who, who died in the army in like the early thoughts. And then his name was just, he was killed by friendly fire. His name was dragged. The NFL basically just used him to sell tickets for a long time. And worked you go to a arizona cardinals game now there's people
Starting point is 00:37:08 in pat tillman jerseys he's like just start using the military do a flyover what do we have b2 bombers for if not to circle over a golf tournament funded by a foreign government no we have them so teachers have to crowdfund on the internet to get school supplies that's why we have b2 bombers i love having retired jets i think it's nice that they work for three years and retire and then we work and we cannot retire like there's no more social security but one of the blue angels jets is having a ceremonial last flight right and i think we just just start using the military to pimp it out will it it be uncomfortable that Saudi Arabia is funding it and they hate our military? Probably.
Starting point is 00:37:48 But that's okay because they all love our weapons. And this is what I think every sport could benefit with. If not enough people are watching your sport, I think you just need some random, normal person to play it next to the pros. Everything. I think every Olympic sport could benefit from that. Oh, we're doing fencing? Great. First round is a guy versus the best fencer.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So you see how hard. Swimming? Just someone. Oh my God. I think golf could benefit from just a guy playing alongside everybody. I would watch that a million times. Put me in that like 100 meter free.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Oh yeah. I'm not joking. I'll die. I'll die trying to do that they will cut to commercial before you're done they come back to watch you finish they will they will do all the other heats by the time i finish and do the fucking award the medal ceremony by the time they pull my body out from the bottom of just any for any sport that if you you want baseball's boring during one inning and we won't tell you which one person gets pitched to yeah you gotta step in there and try and get a hit uh-oh check
Starting point is 00:38:52 your tickets right now because if you're on the loge level section 213 row k seat number 12 youngest person at the game gets to go yeah. And they don't give a fuck. You could be three years old. Suit up, motherfucker. You could get people to watch this thing. If you're trying to get the people who like the people involved with this to watch, just blatant, hypocritical military involvement.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And those people will tune in out of obligation. But if it's a new crowd, it's got to be Nick Cannon and Migos. And maybe Casamigos tequila also. That's how I feel like that's... I think if Casamigos isn't there, is it a thing? I feel like that's the new shorthand for cool culture. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Well, oh, and I don't want to say... I don't want to touch on this. Obviously, Ivana... Not obviously, but we all know Ivana Trump passed away a while back. And she had her funeral and um also she's buried at the first whole t-box uh at the golf club so donald trump can get a tax exemption for making it a ceremony for a cemetery okay moving on awkward thing did you see the picture of like her yes of her like what someone called like aptly a pauper's grave. Yes. It doesn't have a headstone at all.
Starting point is 00:40:06 There's another picture with new wife, I forget her name, standing on top of the grave. Melania. Melania. Okay. She is on. Why are you standing on this woman's grave? What did this woman do to her? To be fair, you can't tell in the photo, but she is dancing.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah. I mean, I've never seen that represented that represented like someone on top of your grave maybe to the side and it was weird because trump kept asking ivanka to get on top of melania for another photo op it was just very uncomfortable oh my god you're grieving you're grieving like a shovel in her hand and it looks like the portion of typically in a ceremony you know you if you might bury like you put your little like bit of dirt on top of the casket or whatever before they finish but but the casket's fully covered oh yeah no that's literally standing on top of the grave yep which
Starting point is 00:40:57 first of all i mean listen maybe she's not superstitious but walking over a dead woman's grave specifically your first husband seems like bad ju juju to me. Don't do it. Maybe she wasn't fully dead. Yeah. No. And who knows? They do that so it's harder to exhume her corpse if they ever needed to do any secondary investigation on her death. People are really on Trump about this.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Who amongst us hasn't used our former wife who we cheated on and got accused of raping's grave to get a tax exemption on one of our golf courses. Who amongst us hasn't? And also to avoid going to trial, too. Yes. Who wants to go to trial? What is he? Just like Hugh Hefner, like, reserving the grave next to Marilyn Monroe so he could be with her forever. It's creepy.
Starting point is 00:41:40 That's the creepiest thing you could ever possibly do. Let people rest. To pre, like, pre-reserve your plot you gotta give it to hugh heffner he sure died in time oh my god yeah i mean he did beat the buzzer oh yeah the man was an hour away from not having a good day ever again i yeah i mean those last days i'm not sure how how with it he was just in general uh that's from somebody who worked at that place and like the one time he came out it looked like like fucking like the mom from psycho like norman bates mom he's in the window look to like explain to gen z kids he's a difficult person to explain he's could you it's hard to explain he's the
Starting point is 00:42:26 if i if i think about it i'm sure there's a really really concise precise way to describe him that contains everything yeah he's the year 1978 he's year 68 gone a way. Okay, let's keep going. But yes, but I'm not joking. Because of New Jersey's tax break laws, any cemetery land is exempt from all taxes. Fucking all taxes. Make it by square foot, New Jersey. Switches up the game.
Starting point is 00:43:00 How many people are buried here? What's the square footage? We'll give you a tax break on that. Yeah, exactly. Who knows if it would be a full exemption but like any maniacal fucking uh wealthy person however they think about their money it's like yeah yeah fuck it but put a dead body who could have benefited from this law was tony soprano oh yeah that would have been a tax-free garbage Garbage operation. All right. Let's move on just to check in with the Pope. Pope Francis last week, he made a week long penitential trip to Canada. And I'm sorry, a trip to, you know, going across to apologize for the atrocity that the Catholic Church, you know, their role in residential schools.
Starting point is 00:43:43 that the Catholic Church, you know, their role in residential schools. And many people were hoping that he would pull up as the face of the Catholic Church, the leader of the church, and offer, you know, like proper acceptance and say, you know what? We fucked up. That was our bad. We need to right our wrongs. And this is how we will make them right. So that didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Just, you know, for starters, there was a lot of pressure, like for a visit, because more graves were discovered at the sites of former residential schools last year. And Canada's Truth and Reconciliation Commission called for the Pope to come to Canada and apologize back in 2015. And only now, seven years later, did it finally happen. It's like, oh, why would you drag your feet? Right. You're going to go and accept your responsibility. With time zones, though, it's a little under the seven years. Well, yeah. The survivors were quick to criticize the Pope's apology, which, you know, used the language of saying that, quote, members of the church and religious communities cooperated in residential schools while not actually saying
Starting point is 00:44:46 that like the entire institution as a whole or the collaborators like in this institutionalized abuse and you know murder of children so the pope didn't really also commit to you know the one word that will always hope we will see some reality around reparations for survivors or funds to continue the search for burial sites. But because there's all this scrutiny, the Catholic Church committed to raising $30 million to, quote, support reconciliation projects for survivors. And people said, oh, that sounds like a decent amount of money. However, if you look, they have what many people called a weasel clause because they just said they would raise the money through their, quote, best efforts. Well, as we know, these cemetery sites are tax incentive.
Starting point is 00:45:31 So I. Right. It's all it's all it's all very murky. Doing PR for the Catholic Church has to be an exhausting thing for everyone involved. You either have to fully believe everything they're saying, or you have to have no moral scruples in saying absolute nonsense at the expense of all of these people that have had their lives ended or damaged irreversibly. But their best effort to raise that $30 million, they raised less than $4 million. So they fell short by almost 90% of that goal of their best, quote unquote, effort.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And just so you put all that money into perspective they said yeah we can try and raise 30 in 2016 the catholic church managed to raise and invest 128 million for a cathedral in toronto so some of that priceless art church sell some of that priceless art church yes and that is fucking ridiculous and that is something that they've had to do like a lot of people had, you know, y'all have a lot of fucking assets that you could, you know, just liquidate and make people whole. Just run a fella gold. Hella gold up in there. Have the Pope autograph some Da Vinci Code copies and sell those online.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Even the Blu-rays. Seriously. Oh, you don't got a smartphone? Get them on Cameo. Don't give a fuck start doing some cameo one cameo man the pope could i mean for how like weird catholic people are about to like the pope i'm sure you could get up like i think one of the most optimistic times is when we thought that the pope was like good remember this guy we were like yeah we were
Starting point is 00:47:02 ranking the problem was we were ranking him against other popes. And the last one was a Nazi. Right. So like this one where the bar is just Nazi. Or not Nazi. And we're like, this guy's got to be good. He washes feet. He's not a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:47:17 He used to be a bouncer. He probably isn't just also still a terrible person. Well, you know, it just means you got a run point for the he's probably not complicit in uh millennia of crime like he's like no no see i'm i'm here to make everybody forget about that because i'm a frail old guy letting steam out of his collar very very fancy pope garb did the pope just say a new pope they were say Eve? That's when the smoke comes out. Yeah, it's time to get a new one. It's gone bad.
Starting point is 00:47:49 All in all, just in terms of what this apology was, the Canadian government basically said, dude, that really didn't go far enough. And they know about apologies up there. That is like apology culture. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, they even say sorry in their own way that we all know very well, unlike in our fucked up country where we don't know that word at all.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Actually, it's actually fuck you rather than sorry. And so the pope at least called for a, quote, serious investigation into the church's abuse in these residential schools. But then they wait. No, they later walked back that statement by clarifying that it was a translation error. Oh. And that what the Pope really meant to say was a serious search, not a serious investigation. What's the difference? I think investigation sounds, look, a search sounds like some shit you could do on your phone. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:42 An investigation sounds like you got to get actually actionable space investigation implies potential results 100 search is a bunch of people in the woods knowing there's no one alive in there and a lot of people are saying you know you don't have to do that much because there are thousands of pages in the vatican that are naming the clergy who were parties to this abuse. So maybe you don't have to do much except maybe look in your old files. What you got back there? I hate the church.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And I see somebody who was raised Catholic and did everything up to confirmation. And the idea that you would come down and talk to these people and not at the very least have some kind of plan and a whole ass load of cash ready to go day one. Like thousands of babies are dead. Thousands. And y'all are coming off of a scandal where millions of children were assaulted over years. And you helped. You helped it happen by moving people around and being like, God forgive. So what can we do?
Starting point is 00:49:44 I don't know how they expect this to help them with their drastically dwindling numbers. I don't know what good they thought this would do. It's the base PR. We're in the age of the apology, of the professional apology. So you had to have known better. At least to some extent, you have great PR folks.
Starting point is 00:50:01 You pay a lot of money for them. They had to know better. Yeah, imagine the Pope drops like a notes app apology. Oh, yeah. With like the red like misspelled words lines appearing there. Investigationist spelled wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:18 It says investigate-oing. The fuck? He screenshots it and we're just dragging him because his phone battery is dying yeah we're like no you look how many unread gmails he has fucking reckless but this whole thing right it's all part of this same pattern of just like hey yeah that's bad and then when people say what about action i mean this is this is par for the course for many organizations and industries that have these kinds of history they're truly giving cops a run for their money on taking care of their own issues.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Seriously. And there's this also moment when the pope was in Canada that he was at this event, an apology event, and he was gifted a headdress. And a lot of indigenous leaders were really pissed off about that because they were like, this does not this is not the fucking this is not something we want to be interacting with the pope in this capacity to give him a headdress and he he was wearing this headdress during the ceremony and the vatican's like newspaper took like a picture of him wearing it and they're and it basically to sort of give the optics it's like all good in canada pope flawless with the tour, when in fact it wasn't. And there was just, you know, a lot of words, not a lot of action.
Starting point is 00:51:36 And it didn't seem like much other than trying to just maintain whatever the church's reputation was, however good or bad that is. And just so you know, for the cost of this one trip, they could have just paid the reparations to survivors. Of course. I want to go to bed this visit cost it potentially between 50 and 100 million dollars for this papal visit papal visit however you want to pronounce that oh man well they used taylor swift's jet so that saved them a little bit yeah exactly cut down on the emissions i think that's what her team meant when they're like it's not actually all her fault we leased the jet to the pope too and that's right so talk to him please uh rabid followers although his aren't on twitter it doesn't seem like you imagine you tweet i hate the pope and then like at pope stan 69 it's like you just don't understand him. Yeah. Wait, just wait. Oh, really? Have you heard these speeches?
Starting point is 00:52:25 Then talk to me about his oration skills. If we want this to get, I think we need to start thinking of alternative ways to get these sort of situations fixed. We need to start like getting actionable people to do things. We need to make the Pope say something bad about BTS. Oh, to create like the kind of polarity bad about bts there would be irreparable damage done to him on the internet by 11 year olds there would be nothing he could do about it they are the most oh right so yo okay and i hate to you know like articulate a conspiracy out conspiracy theory out loud but what we're saying is we need to create like a q anon type
Starting point is 00:53:05 movement where we're saying that the pope has been against like these gigantic fandoms yes to mobilize the fandoms against the catholic church yes okay i think that bts fans are like a high school band they're the largest voting block that actually exists and if you can get them on your side then you'll be doing okay all right well i one time tweeted who's more famous oprah or bts and i have never gotten more replies to a tweet in my entire life oh my god and i've never been swatted more times in my life for merely positing the question so just get bts fans to think that the pope hates them and that they will raise the money i feel like they're too smart they're gonna be like look we weren't fucking with the pope BTS fans to think that the Pope hates them and that they will raise the money.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I feel like they're too smart. They're going to be like, look, we weren't fucking with the Pope because of the residential schools. We don't need. You're probably. You're probably right. Of course. They're an educated. The children will lead the way.
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Starting point is 00:58:31 hover around a steady 63 degrees fahrenheit what we call i don't know in la we call that fucking down jacket scarf canada goose jackets no pants weather. And I think in Boston, that means like absolutely barely any clothing on. So I don't know what it means for you, but it is a great like habitable temperature for human life. And this isn't. So basically, when looking at this, it sort of gives more credence to the idea that having a lunar base or fucking who know, having a lunar base or fucking who know and fucking habitation might not be such a far-fetched idea uh if you can get around the radiation and micrometeors and things like that but there are some city-sized areas that apparently like are in this like temperate zone and it's just wild to think about because i never in my mind look i'm an ignorant non-space person like i i keep up with
Starting point is 00:59:24 the headlines but i don't know things like what the surface temperature is on the moon. Do any of you know what the surface temperature is on the moon? No. Okay. I don't know some of my cousins' names. Okay. Do you know, can you name one cousin at all? Yeah, John.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That definitely sounded fake. I was going to say, that's sketch as hell. John. That was so reflexive. John Doe. Yeah. What's your wife's name? Go say it.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Crindy. For my rest of the development fans out there. Okay, so the surface of the moon swings between 260 degrees during the day and minus 280 at night. You're going to need 70,000 layers to deal with the change. That's a big backpack. Yeah. And also, just so you know, you also have to remember that, quote, daytime on the moon lasts for what we know as 15 Earth days. Damn, moon, you're slow.
Starting point is 01:00:24 And night is the same, 15 Earth days. And night is the same. 15 Earth days for night. So a lot of the ideas previously around habitation were like, how the fuck are you going to deal with 15 days of 260 degrees and then 15 days of minus 280? Like, how do you even build a fucking structure or anything to deal with that? Let alone the amount of energy it would take to power something like that, to stabilize the temperature in power something like that, to like stabilize
Starting point is 01:00:45 the temperature in a place like that. And also solar power, which is the preferred energy generation source in space, won't work at night on the moon. So this is like this new discovery has basically opened the doors to like thinking a little bit more about saying, oh, well, there are places that could potentially sustain life that doesn't mean everyone's now fucking buying up their plots to a new timeshare on the moon but uh it's something i had not heard of or really thought about but apparently pretty significant who owns the moon when we go to buy land on the moon who's getting my cash i hope it's like a url squatter like someone found a way to like this moon or like
Starting point is 01:01:25 there's someone who like squats a social media they had like had at nike on instagram way early and he's just like well well well looking for some real estate are you look who wants the disney section of the moon nook but yeah i never thought in my mind i don't know why the moon was just always cold again i'm ignorant because it's space and it's dark yeah i'm like it's not also there's no world where we're the people that get to do this like right right like you gotta be rich you gotta be rich enough to already have known this right that this like people like billionaires knew this shit 40 years ago we will do anything except fix earth we will do absolutely anything oh yeah except tax a company you know i i feel like in the like the tragedy that is the human
Starting point is 01:02:19 race like we end up going to mars only to it be like one of those sci-fi films. You're like, you should have never came here. Motherfuckers. If you think you thought it was bad where you're at, welcome to Mars. And we were like, man, it would be crazy if they called it Mars there. Like what a guess that would have been on our point.
Starting point is 01:02:37 We would have been like, no way. We thought that's what you called it. Oh, really? We just named it after the God of war. What's that? We just call it Mars.
Starting point is 01:02:46 We just call it Mars. It's more of a vibe for us. We're like Mars. Yeah, I like that. Mars. What's up, Mars? Okay. Yeah, let's go with that. Just like they're very chill over there. But every time I read about these going to space habit, I'm just like, nah, man, I will be left here to heat like that's i will you know what i mean i won't yeah there's no going up in the i feel like the people who are gonna get off this fucking rock are like unless you have three million dollars in savings right now and three million is low it might not even be you die how many there are at least a hundred i don't know i don't know all right let's say what? How many billionaires exist? What do you think, five million per person? Like that'll be the cost to get off.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I think a billion won't get you on. Those have to be way more than that. I think it will be. Because they hate millionaires. They're like, these poor bitches. What? A million? So they're like 600 million, 600 ahead.
Starting point is 01:03:36 There are 2,700 billionaires. And there's not even enough space for them. I think what they'll do is they'll find out how much money Trump has, if he could liquidate everything, and they'll make it a little more than that because they don't want to deal with him. By like five bucks. Right. They're like, we don't need a gold casino no one goes to. Okay, what about this golf course?
Starting point is 01:03:53 And the gravity is a lot lower. You could drive the shit out of the ball on the moon because of gravity. That's that like famous Norm MacDonald joke where he talks about Michael Collins and the lunar land, like watching them down, down you know because he didn't get to go to the moon right and he's watching them and he's like are they fucking golfing like and then they get back up and they're like yeah it was fine we're just dicking around you know it is what it is but this isn't for us going to the moon i wait it's not so wait how many okay joelle how many can you pull up how many millionaires we got how many millionaires exist yeah because then i think that's maybe that's our next play is we need to we need to do obviously because millionaires need to realize they're broke as
Starting point is 01:04:36 fuck and they need to side with working people to fight the billionaires who guess what they don't accept you anyway and they don't want you on their little moon party there are okay wait 56.1 million as of 2020 oh shit okay that's dead that's a wrap okay and you said how many thousands of billionaires there are 2,700 billionaires damn okay i think that we don't we don't understand how much poor people and i mean that's like anyone who's under like like millions i would still put right don't understand what billions is i've known this since do you remember the jurassic park movie not the new one but the one before that where they like sold dinosaurs at an auction it's terrible movie the people who wrote that movie in the movie they sell a dinosaur for $12 million.
Starting point is 01:05:27 It's too low. How much do you think a fucking dinosaur should cost? So they're like, oh, 12. It should be $10 billion for a dinosaur. They're like, $12 million, that's the most someone would pay for something. And you're just like, it is a dinosaur. It should be $100 billion is a dinosaur 12 it should be a hundred billion dollars for a dinosaur right someone bought jack from twitter's first tweet
Starting point is 01:05:51 as an nft for fucking what they thought was going to be 45 million dollars someone paid someone paid three million for a fucking nft of a tweet so yeah they're gonna have 12 for a dinosaur you could get the tail or the feathers offensive for one-fourth of the cost of that nft you could have been on your way to buying a dinosaur that's what was and it's like these have got to be the richest like this is a private auction like it's like a human trafficking auction but for dinosaurs and they're like 12 million they have that on their. No one understands how we're not going to be. We're not living on the moon. I'm sorry. Anyone who makes or listens to a podcast is not going to live on the moon. No. In any capacity.
Starting point is 01:06:34 You think Bill Gates listens to podcasts? Absolutely not. What if he like he'd use this to be woke? He hears like one episode and he's like, hey, I hear that there's like a lot of poor people who don't think they're going to get on the moon. And I want to let you know, with my new scholarship, I'm thinking about you crusty, poor millionaires who aren't going to make it. And, you know, apply now from your bill. Your Bill Gates moon grant coming. Get your bill bills. That's going to be the currency on the moon.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Well, I look forward to seeing y'all on this scorched earth in the future as we fight the marauding bands of thieves for hydro credits. We're just going to do a Burning Man until we die. Like, it'll be fine. They'll be like, we've passed the point of no return. I'll be like, great. We're raving in the desert until there's nothing left.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Someone comes up with, like, the mathematical, like, perfect dose of a drug so you could stay high on ecstasy for the next like 10 years until you die. Just to be like, look, this is how some people are choosing to go out. They're burning out. You could go out much worse ways. It feels better than honestly living in a cave on the moon just to live longer. And then you're just around.
Starting point is 01:07:42 If all the billionaires go and no one else, a bunch of them are going to feel poor and that's going to be uncomfortable for them. I'm not a survivalist either. Like, not into it. Y'all go ahead and like struggle. Give me some joy. Yuck. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Just look, I'll do Molly in the caves with the poor people. I picture all the billionaires waiting for someone to build something. And they're just like, who do we exploit? Yeah. They're like, I think I'm going to go to one of those proletarian ecstasy death parties. Feels like the most real shit I can experience.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Just the beginning of Blade, but all forever. Right. With the blood coming down non-stop, too. Oh, what a song, though. Kyle, thanks so much for joining us, man, on the Daily Zeitgeist uh where can people find you follow you listen to you and also what's what's a tweet that you've been liking
Starting point is 01:08:30 uh i'm at kyle ayers most places i'm kyle ayers things on tiktok i'm trying and but find me on there i have a podcast called never seen it where comedians rewrite movies they've never seen and we read their scripts so if you want to see what a bunch of comedians think something probably is it's a lot of fun yeah i want to thank everybody for all that sort of stuff and find me on that sort of thing and uh tweets let me find them yeah yeah i have them here on a note okay i have two of them these both made me laugh very recently one is at micah fox mike is a very funny comedian and she said i'm in newport rhode island every house looks like it's owned by someone who killed their spouse and got away with it.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Which I thought was very funny. And then the other one I have is from at my hair is blue. It is Sam H Escobar. And they said, I got cat called tonight. The guy literally said, from his car. And I looked,
Starting point is 01:09:23 got to admire the devotion to being literal that's awesome that's not who calls cats like that i go that's how i get the he threw a feather at her and then i want to give a shout out to everyone who listens to this who thinks i'm blake wexler every time i'm on which is really exciting there's always people who are like for a few for a few minutes i thought it was wexler again. And it was Kyle. I take that as a compliment. He's great. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I think energetically, I feel like you sound different. But hey, look, you mix them up. You mix them up. Joelle, thank you so much for helping me host today. Where can people find you and follow you? And what's the tweet that you like? Always a pleasure, Miles. You guys can follow me at Joelle Monique. It's J-O-E-L-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e got a couple tweets
Starting point is 01:10:08 gotta make them quick at female underscore t-s slut era i say to myself as i sit motionless in my apartment for the 300th night in a row and who couldn't identify we get it um i gotta scroll oh this came out from pop cave this morning 25 years into her I got a scroll. Oh, this came out from PopCave this morning. 25 years into her groundbreaking career, Beyonce has released her most critically acclaimed studio album, Renaissance. Her most critically acclaimed! I'm shaking the mic.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I'm sorry, Justin. Listen, how her star keeps rising is, it's unbathable. Alien Superstar just took number one from you won't break my soul we're living in the new era of beyonce release the tickets beyonce we're ready to come worship you i'm so excited i cannot wait for this and these will be accessible to non-millionaires these tickets too although if you want to get close it's not yeah her first shows on the nook of the moon yeah she's like it's 63 degrees y'all perfect weather it would be good the venue could be called beyond say and yes oh beyond okay yeah i love i love the the memes that have come
Starting point is 01:11:17 from the renaissance album drop i feel like most of my likes are people just comparing the the beyonce album to other things i'm of them, let me just actually play it. This is from at AndyZone6. He tweeted, Church Girl was very born by the river. I was shaking that ass about the situation. And if you don't know, this is a, you know, very viral clip from the old days.
Starting point is 01:11:41 But this clip does pretty much encapsulate church girl in the best way uh and if for those of you who can't see uh it's some two friends they're just hanging dancing singing and then one of them really just starts shaking that ass i was born by the river river brick brick brick brick i was born by the river. I was shaking that ass. Bendin' over, poppin' piss. I was makin' that cab pop. Shake it. It's perfect.
Starting point is 01:12:13 That's pretty much the exact energy of that song. River, rip, river. Okay, and lastly, at Norm Charlton, this is fucked up. So there's a picture of Mayor Lori Lightfoot at Lollapalooza wearing this hat, and it's a side-by-side. They're saying she looked like the amateur sketch of the Leprechaun in the Hood video.
Starting point is 01:12:35 If you remember Leprechaun in the Hood, this is it. That's Lori Lightfoot. And then they stretch her. It's perfect. Y'all have got to see this tweet Oh my god It's crazy I honestly can't handle it
Starting point is 01:12:54 It makes me scream Who else seen a leprechaun Let me hear you say yeah That's one of my favorite ones Who else seen a leprechaun Let me hear you say yeah I want's one of my favorite ones. Who else seen a leprechaun? Let me hear you say yeah. I want the gold. So shout out to that account.
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Starting point is 01:13:51 Where we also link out to the song we're going to ride out on. Okay, we're going to go out on a track from Micaiah McRaven, who's a fantastic artist with a just, you know, wonderful catalog, multi-instrumentalist producer very very like hip-hoppy vibes this is a track with robert glasper and a few other people it's called mantra it's just very soulful but like funky instrumental music so you're gonna like that check out the daily zeitgeist uh well wait well i'm gonna tell you where wherever you get your podcast because it is a production of iheart radio so go to So go to the Apple Podcasts app, iHeartRadio app.
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