The Daily Zeitgeist - Pre-Mueller Report Jitters, Insane Doctors Suggest 6 Fries Limit 12.6.18
Episode Date: December 6, 2018In episode 288, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Guy Montgomery to discuss Fortnite emotes attracting lawsuits, the break up of Cardi B and Offset, Trump and Michael Cohen's obstruction of justic...e, the right trying to downplay the Mueller investigation, more on the North Carolinas voter fraud, a new study on French fries, Christmas music that has been #MeToo'd, Peta pushing anti-animal language, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Rapper 2 Milly Sues Epic Games For Stealing His Dance2. Cardi B and Husband Offset Split: "We Grew Out of Love"3. Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer, pleads guilty to lying to Congress about Moscow project4. Trump’s latest tweets cross clear lines, experts say: Obstruction of justice and witness tampering5. WHY IT MATTERS THAT TRUMP DENIES RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE6. IS THIS IT?: A TRUMP-HATER’S GUIDE TO MUELLER SKEPTICISM7. Ballot fraud allegations complicate North Carolina congressional election results8. You Don’t Want Fries With That9. Radio station pulls ‘Baby, It’s Cold Outside’ amid #MeToo movement10. 'Baby, It's Cold Outside' Banned From Canadian Radio Stations, Too11. ‘Baby, It’s Cold Outside’: The real story of the song12. PETA offers replacement sayings for the 'anti-animal language' in daily conversations13. WATCH: Pam Amsterdam - Landlord Elijah Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 60,
Episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist,
the podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's shared consciousness
using the headlines,
box office reports, TV ratings,
and what's trending on Google and social media.
It's Thursday, December 6th, 2018.
My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
I'm going, going, Jack, Jack O'Brien, Brian, courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Maine, and I'm
thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
I said, do you speak a Miles language?
He just smiled and gave me a Veggie Miles sandwich.
Oh, and I just came up with that one on the spot
Because I'm so stoked for what is in the building right now
Yeah, we are thrilled to have in our third seat
The hilarious comedian Guy Montgomery
Hello, fellas
Hello
Holy shit, mate
You're here, finally
Yeah, you see it, brother
Yeah, man We'll swap accents later, finally. Yeah, you see it, brother.
Yeah, man.
We'll swap accents later, I think. Right, right.
That'll be fun.
Well, it's great to have you here, here in the States and in the studio.
We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners what we're going to be talking about.
We're going to talk about Fortnite.
We're going to talk about Cardi B and Offset breaking up.
Offset!
We're going to talk Trump shit, Mueller shit, you know, all that stuff.
We'll get to it all.
But first, we like to ask our guest, Guy, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?
Well, quite recently, I was actually doing some comedy here in Los Angeles, California.
Yes.
The very city that we're presently in.
Thank you.
And the hosts, they were riffing around, you know, talking about whatever they wanted to.
Right.
Can you believe it?
One of them was on a computer during the riff, and they said, Marilyn Manson has died.
Oh, shit.
And then I was backstage waiting to go on, and I was like, oh, whoa.
Because you'd believe that if someone just told you.
Yeah, and you must have been gutted when you heard that.
Well, yeah, obviously, as you can tell by the T-shirt and the face paint.
Yeah, based on your look.
And you told me you had a rib removed also.
Yeah, pretty deep in the Marilyn Manson fan world.
You crawled into the room backwards.
I immediately wanted to verify it, so I looked it up,
and he's still alive.
But then suddenly I was like, after the show, I was like,
oh, that's right, Marilyn Manson isn't just alive,
but he's out there doing stuff.
So I Googled Marilyn Manson facts.
Yeah.
Just to sort of, you know, so that was my most recent Google search.
Guy, you're really dating the podcast by saying Marilyn Manson's still alive.
Because, I mean, we don't know when people listen to this. But it's like a bit, though.
I feel like that's like a troll move on the internet that people do a lot.
Like they always want to be like, oh, he died.
Don't you think he's right in the slot for someone if you heard it?
Oh, yeah.
I'm not going to push back on that.
Yeah, yeah. I think I heard he died like when I was in high right in the slot for someone if you heard it? Oh, yeah. I'm not going to push back on that. Yeah, yeah.
I think I heard he died when I was in high school.
Yeah.
I think I heard it a long time ago.
That would go around.
There are some facts I've retained.
Okay, let's hear it.
Him and Johnny Depp, unsurprisingly, who's aging brilliantly,
close friends to the point of having matching back tattoos.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Of what?
A murder scene?
What am I, some sort of information machine?
They just have ink.
Right.
And then also, he has a fear that his house will burn down at any time,
so he has, sounds like it's on the more speculative side,
but the listicles seem pretty authoritative.
Right.
He's got a fear of his house burning down, so he always has sex with his pants around his ankles.
Uh-huh.
Oh, ready to pull up?
Like literally pull up and get the fuck out.
Yeah.
Wow.
That sounds like a convenient excuse for just keeping your pants on
because you have weird ankles.
Because you're just a sloppy dude.
Yeah, you have weird ankles.
I always fuck with my socks on.
I know when I'm in the bedroom, I'm always looking out for some ankle quirks.
Right.
Let me see those bad boys.
And you're like, ah, I'm out of the mood.
Look at this.
Right.
Do you have any facts about Twiggy Ramirez?
I don't know who Twiggy Ramirez is.
Twiggy was in Marilyn Manson also.
He was the bassist and guitarist, I think.
Yeah.
I'm shocked that you don't have facts about Twiggy Ramirez.
I'm such a fan of Marilyn Manson.
Everyone in his orbit is barely a footnote to me.
What was the vibe like in New Zealand when Marilyn Manson came out?
Was that a big thing over there?
Yeah.
I mean, I think he had reach everywhere.
There was sort of people saw him and he was representing something that they were into.
But I came to him later.
I didn't get caught up in all the hoopla.
But certainly that rib removal, self-relating, that's a global phenomenon.
You talk to anyone from any country, that was on the playground.
He knew how to go viral even before the internet.
Just say that you had a rib removed to blow yourself.
What is something you think is overrated?
I think it probably runs against the ethos
of a pop culture podcast,
but I think like recommending stuff,
recommendations of cultural events
or things to absorb is overrated.
Okay.
So everyone's got a mountain of work
to get through already.
Right.
And I always feel like recommendations usually,
like unless they're specifically tailored for the person,
which happens occasionally, more broadly speaking,
it's usually just like a launch pad for someone to just talk at you
about something they've been reading or watching lately.
Hold on, this is our whole show.
What the fuck?
Not the whole format, no.
This is all about the news, baby.
Yeah, well, wait till we get to our segments.
What you watching on Netflix?
Right.
Yeah, I agree that till we get to our segments. What you watching on Netflix? Right. Yeah,
I agree that that tends to be just, especially
now because there's so much content
that it's just getting a
recommendation, even if it's convincing,
it's like stressful. It's like another
assignment to get through. The other thing
I think is also kind of weird is when people
shame people for being like, how have you not
seen that? It's like, motherfucker, like you're saying,
there's so much media right now,
there's no way I can prioritize
all these other things and have a life
anyway. Leave it alone.
Is it okay to do that to people who haven't
seen The Wire? Oh, fuck yeah.
You should beat them with their own shoes if they haven't seen The Wire.
What is something you think is underrated?
Bags.
Having a bag when you leave the house. I was something you think is underrated? Bags. Having a bag
when you leave the house.
I was a very slow adopter
to bags. I'd always just have overstuffed
pockets. But now,
man, you put so much
stuff in there. You got
free pockets. You don't get that wear and tear
on your jean pockets.
Especially the back one. Your big, thick
middle-aged wallet goes with all those cards in it. Especially the back one. Your big thick middle-aged wallet
guys with all those cards in it.
So thick.
I just came around to the bag life too
because my legs are bigger.
I would say I'm a thick boy.
That everything looks like an outline on my
pants. And to the point where I had a pair of jeans that
my phone outline just became like
it fucked up the dye. So I'm all about
bag life yeah i have
that going on too in jeans because i just wear i have two pairs of pants that i just wear constantly
i got two pairs of pants as well but at least you can rotate between the two of them but then like
they start falling apart and they fall apart specifically where my wallet goes a hole just
burns through it's naturally the most worn part of the thing.
And if you've got anywhere about 10 t-shirts or shirts,
no one's even going to notice that you've only got two pairs of shirts.
I mean, you've outed yourself now.
Yes, I have.
We will cut that out.
No.
And finally, what is a myth?
What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Well, it's fairly well known,
but there's a myth surrounding
a greek figure called uh day dallas who he he he got i'm loving the the emphasis on the syllables
on this yeah yeah dada lists yeah and him too oh wait so okay okay okay making sure okay um but
anyway yeah he there's a rumor going around he got banished from athens and went to crete and
eventually through circumstance wound up building a labyrinth for a minotaur
and was kept prisoner in a tower,
wherein him and his young son Icarus crafted some wings from feathers and wax.
I have heard that.
And he was like, don't, to his son, he said,
don't you go too near the ocean or too near the sun.
And then rumor has it Icarus flew too close to the sun.
No, my friend was just telling you that
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let's talk about what's happening in the news today.
And I don't even know how to pronounce one of the words in this headline,
but Fortnite is causing lawsuits.
I think you got it.
The emotes from Fortnite are attracting lawsuits.
Yeah, so those are things you can buy,
like so you can make your character do a dance or whatever.
They call it an emote.
And, yeah, so a lot of people, especially Chance the Rapper,
I think back in July was like, hey, a lot of people especially chance to rap i think
back in july was like hey a lot of these dances are just taken straight from hip-hop or from
specific artists there's no like credit or like sign of any kind of compensation a lot of people
like oh whatever blah blah blah but he has a point because there's a few of the dances are very much
specific to artists and epic games the developer of Fortnite, just straight up took it.
So if you don't know,
I feel like everybody knows what Fortnite is at this point.
And if you know what the emotes are,
you've probably seen kids doing the Flossin' dance,
which is from the Backpack Kid,
where I see constantly all the time.
It makes me a little disturbed.
It disturbs me a little bit.
But there's one dance called Swipe It, which is basically the rapper 2Milly's signature dance.
Yeah, it's Millie Rock.
The Millie Rock.
Yeah.
Okay, and they call it Swipe It.
And then the shoot dance is from a Block Boy JB video.
So 2Milly is lawyered up, and he's now suing Epic Games for stealing his Millie Rock dance in the game.
And, you know, we're not sure where the lawsuit is going to go,
but apparently you can trademark a dance.
So according to the Copyright Act of 1976,
you would be able to protect dances under copyright law.
So we'll see what happens.
And he's not the only person who's had a dance stolen.
Donald Faison, who did the Poison Dance in Scrubs,
that just became like the default dance in Fortnite 2.
And that was a dance like,
I don't know if it's necessarily hyper-specific
to Donald Faison,
although they're definitely using
that specific instance of him dancing
to inspire the emote.
But that was something he just improvised
on the set of Scrubs.
So think about that.
What is the poison dance?
It's more like him doing like the running man kind of thing.
Oh, okay.
Like dancing to, I think, Belle Biv Devoe's Poison.
Who's the guy who's lawyered up again?
What's his name?
2 Millie.
2 Millie.
Yeah.
He points to 2 Millie.
I reckon that's great.
Fortnite's probably making enough scratch that they can afford to have a few-
Settle this.
Yeah, lawsuits coming in from the side saying, hey, stop jacking our dances.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, seriously. And I mean, yeah, it seems like they've made all the money. Oh, yeah. lawsuits coming in from the side saying hey stop jacking our dances yeah yeah yeah no seriously and
i mean yeah it seems like they've made all the money oh yeah 100 like they're making billions
of dollars and again a lot of people like yo you're just mining black culture here and you're
putting that in there and just been like whatever that's like a thing you can buy and we'll profit
off of so you know i might want to take a look at that again. Then I suppose the inverse argument,
there's value in, you know, the dance being put in Fortnite
so ubiquitous, you know, it's like,
who's tracing back the dances from their video game
back to their origin?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the argument they would like people to buy,
that, well, we're just publicizing your dance,
so it's good for you.
Yeah, the pay is an exposure.
It's come on to, Millie.
Exactly.
But yeah, that one is like his name,
it's the Millie Rock,
and yeah, even that, what is it,
Playboi Carti song, Magnolia,
is all about in New York I'm Millie Rock.
Right.
That's where I first saw the Millie Rock.
Yeah.
Yo, Pierre, you wanna come out here?
That's how the song starts.
I can't hear that without wanting that song to start.
I can't think of an equivalent example of something,
like people trademarking a movement.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I wonder if Hammer, MC Hammer, was smart enough to get in front of that.
The Chinese typewriter or whatever that was called.
I'm sorry?
Wasn't it called the Chinese typewriter?
Oh, is that what it's called?
That's what I heard.
Shit.
That's some coded language.
Yeah, it did sound problematic when it came out of my mouth.
I was like, ooh, Chinese typewriter.
The Chinese typewriter.
Who else?
I think if you did it in a Cantonese accent,
it would have been okay.
Yeah, yeah.
That would have been much better.
Let's try to take two.
But no, I think him.
Who else may have?
I mean, Michael Jackson is probably the only other people I could think of who had the grounds to try and copyright a dance.
Right, the moonwalk.
But he stole that from somebody did that on American Dance Stand.
I think.
No, not that one.
Oh.
Yeah, that's the thing that I've never been impressed because it doesn't look like the Neil Armstrong walk at all.
He was moving very slowly.
He was using a different gravitational field.
You want to really impress us, Michael Jackson,
moves several meters in one very lumbering band.
And Cardi B and Offset broke up.
Oh, yeah, they broke up.
I mean, there were constantly rumors swirling around
that whilst pregnant, she was stepping out on her.
And even like, I think prior to that, they just had a lot of-
He was stepping out on her?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I thought you said she was stepping out.
No, no, no.
I mean, those are the rumors that I kept hearing.
And then, you know, she also had to kind of take some bullets for him because he would use like homophobic slurs and things like that.
And like on Instagram, she just posted a video that was just sort of like,
hey, you know, everybody's been bugging me and everything.
We've been trying to work things out, and we're really good friends,
but we just fell out of love, I guess.
And then he commented on that post, he's like, y'all won.
Yeah.
I'm like, okay, Mr. Salt of the Earth.
I think he was specifically talking about us,
because we have been rooting very hard against them ending up together.
You boys are most famous for ragging on their relationship.
Yes.
No way will that ever work.
So is that your one directed at the broader public or is that?
It must be because, like, you know, I guess the social media, Twitter sphere always has comments on everything. So I guess that's, or I don't know, acting as if, was he trying to say
that the people on social media
were forcing him to cheat on her or something?
Yeah, I think that's probably it.
Just, hey, you know, he doesn't,
he's basically abdicating his responsibility.
Right, it's sort of like the,
every NFL team going into the playoffs
is like, nobody believes in us.
Nobody ever believed in us.
Like even the Patriots are like,
nobody believed we could win this.
You guys have won eight years in a row.
What are you talking about?
They're young people in love.
What could we have expected?
I don't know.
I don't know for them to end up together.
Would I have my heart?
Look, Cardi
at me. Back on the market.
Back out there.
So he's been, I actually haven't been following their relationship that closely,
but he's been sort of problematic Jackson-maning their relationship.
Yeah, yeah, a couple of times.
And, like, she was catching heat from, like, her LGBTQ fans and stuff
because he, you know, likes to say shit that you shouldn't be saying ever,
especially not 2018.
What do we think the effectiveness of calling out the partner of the person
who's, you know, perpetrating pejorative language?
Well, I don't know if that was –
Kind of just hit him up.
You go, hey, can you please stop using these homophobic slurs, Brett?
They're really effing up my day.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it was just sort of her –
she just – I think as the attacks came from him, she just was playing the role of protector.
Yeah.
And trying to, you know, take the arrows, as it were.
But yeah, it just seemed like she has had it.
And it's funny, too, because in the past, they would always post, like, photos together looking like they were so in love and things like that.
Or comments.
She would comment on his.
She's like, oh, I can't wait to see you and fuck the shit out of you.
Like, it was really very transparent. You'd be like, oh would comment on his. She's like, oh, I can't wait to see you and fuck the shit out of you. Like he was really very transparent.
You'd be like, oh, wow.
Right.
But I think we all know couples who, you know,
portray a public life on social media,
and it's quite another thing in private.
Of course.
That's a social, a savvy social media move is to comment your enthusiasm.
You know, if you've got a partner, you might be excited to have sex with them,
but you'd usually send it
you might send that in a text or a DM
but to do it in the comments
and everyone's going, oh my gosh
what a sexually explosive
relationship these two must have
nothing is private with these two
just did it again guys
posting to Twitter
just every time, just notch it.
Oh, yeah.
Another sex act with us again.
Well, I hope you're happy,
the internet.
Because y'all won.
You did it again.
Y'all won.
I think I might start
blaming all of my,
any argument I have
with my wife on the internet.
Y'all won.
Yeah, great.
They were always against me.
They were always against me.
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So I have two stories kicking us off right here that sort of portray the span of where things stand with the Trump and Mueller investigation as far as in my life and how I'm thinking about things.
So on one side, you have Trump blatantly obstructing justice and witness tampering on Twitter.
He's talking about how Michael Cohen deserves to go to jail and serve a full and complete sentence.
He tweeted, I will never testify against Trump.
This statement was recently made by Roger Stone, essentially stating that he will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor to make up lies and stories about President Trump.
Nice to know that some people still have guts. People were saying, yo, that's basically a crime to do that because you can't communicate that you're like going to reward
somebody for doing the thing you want them to.
Yeah, that is a prima facie witness tampering. It's so evident on its face that you're like,
okay.
This Donald Trump guy, he strikes me as more of a, it's easy to ask for, he doesn't even ask for forgiveness.
Right.
It doesn't seem like the sort of guy seeking out permission.
Oh, never.
No.
Well, his whole thing is, I never did it, I never did it.
And if you get him, you're like, you did.
He goes, well, so what?
Right.
I was allowed to do it.
Yeah, it was never like, oh, my bad.
It was cool and very legal.
Very cool and very legal. Very cool and very legal.
Yeah, and then on the other hand, I'm seeing a lot of articles from people.
I don't know if it's like pregame jitters or something,
but now that the Mueller report is probably about to drop,
we're seeing a bunch of articles where it's people being like, I don't know,
538 wrote an article being like,
what if this is all we learned from the Mueller report is like what has already broken, you know? Well, in what sense? Like that even if
it were fully released to the public, like the knowledge therein wouldn't be stuff we haven't
heard already? Yeah, that he's basically communicated everything that he has evidence for.
So he's communicated basically that they definitely know that Russia interfered
on Trump's behalf. They have that. And they have that the people around Trump lied,
but there's not necessarily anything to indicate that they have the Trump campaign
colluding with Russia or that Trump lied. But they would, right? If you go the Jerome
Corsi WikiLeaks route,
if you're a fool enough to believe that WikiLeaks isn't some arm of Russian intelligence and then they're feeding Jerome Corsi information who then gives it to Roger Stone.
There's all sorts of reasons that I thought that we had this guy nailed to the wall.
It's unrelenting, though.
It's been the whole news cycle since he started.
I remember a month or two months in, we'd cycle Since he started It's like Remember like a month
Or two months
When he was like
Oh he's gonna
He'll be impeached
Next month
Right
And then it's like
Just this constant shifting
Of the timeline
And expectations
And now it feels like
I'd say the truth lies
Somewhere in between
Where it is pre-game nerves
Where it's like
Well
You know
This is
This is kind of
Quite a big information dump
That's hopefully
Going to have the impact
We want
And then also
It's like
But realistically This will just be Another straw On a very frustratingly this is kind of quite a big information dump that's hopefully going to have the impact we want. And then also it's like, but realistically,
this will just be another straw
on a very frustratingly powerful camel's back.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I think 538, though, too,
they don't want to start spiking footballs quite yet.
So I think it behooves them to kind of be like,
well, let's make sure we know what's happening.
Just do our due diligence.
And I know a lot of smart people who are skeptical
that the Mueller investigation is going to be the thing that delivers us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory.
Yeah.
Should we just go into prayer right now?
Our father.
Our Mueller.
a Trump-hating Mueller investigation skeptic who was just saying sort of how I feel in the sense that there is this cycle of hype where it's some piece of information breaks and we're like,
we got him. That's it. Now, because he's letting Cohen off or recommending Cohen gets not much of
a sentence or with Flynn, because he's recommending that Flynn get not much of a sentence, then he must have him on something. But then that sort of just fades. And I don't know. Well, I guess we're assuming that he's holding back all these cards that are going savior, like mentally, emotionally, because like with all the other things that would have completely decimated any other administration seem to not work.
And I'm like, we're dealing with something different here.
I think it's really going to be up to the thing that I would be most politically horny for is to see public sentiment on the right actually change in one direction about this.
And that is what I feel like a little bit just like, well, you know, he's going to have the
people on the right in office who are going to basically protect him. But I wonder what it will
take. I guess the thing I would be excited about if there were something that would be so just
clear, even if it is something we don't know, but it's just the details of it became very clear.
Oh, here are the dots connected that if, if you know what to see what the response would be from the gop but who knows it's
been a very like watching it uh from from afar as an outsider has been a sort of very slow adjustment
of expectations on like how quickly the meccan nations can trap right now the huge the paper
trail of you know the garbage that he's done it's like watching the american conscience be like we'll
get him we'll get in there's a well we'll get you know maybe not today but
well not this year but you know yeah we're eating away at it history will be the judge
and then we're like yeah when he's like forever president we'll be like right
maybe we can send a time capsule into space and someone will then know the objective truth.
Also on the subject of the GOP and in a place where it seems like they might actually be fucked.
North Carolina.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's happening?
Literally District 9.
Yes.
We call it North Carolina's 9th Congressional District.
So we talked about how there are tremendous voting irregularities in the ninth district's congressional race between
mark harris the republican and dan mccready where mark harris uh won by 905 votes but the board of
elections was not willing to certify because they're like hold this is like really shady
there's so much evidence like one of the things even that he got like 60% of the absentee vote in the county, but like only like, I think
20% of the mail-in ballots were requested by Republicans. So he like won over and then just a
wild number of independents and Democrats apparently by that math. But now like as people
have slowly began to put their eyes on this story and began asking questions, we're getting more and
more details. Cause so from up top, we saw that it seemed like they were a group of eight
people one of the big smoking gun things were that eight people were signing on as witnesses to
people's ballots uh which you need to sort of be like okay this person like it was in witness of
these other people we can say that this was like a proper ballot or whatever right uh that it was
like eight people who were the witnesses on like 130 ballots or something like that.
And now some reporters, I think local news people went around and found, tried to track
down these eight people to try and see like, okay, what's at the heart of this?
They spoke with two people and these women were like, obviously just people who this
guy dug up to go around and steal people's ballots, essentially, because they asked, hey, so what do you know about your work
with this GOP operative, this consultant, Leslie McRae Dallas?
And they're like, well, you know, I was just paid to go.
I had a list of addresses.
I would push for them to maybe support the candidate, Mark Harris,
or the sheriff, McVicker, and then I would take their ballot,
and then I wouldn't mail it off or whatever i
would just give it back to dallas and then i don't know what happened well and they're like not even
an effort to cover up what like is it no we didn't believe this so idiotic that they're just like oh
we just i just did what i was told no well yeah when i think these people were because they didn't
they're like you know you can't do that like i didn't know they were paying me like a hundred
bucks a week to do this right so clearly it wasn't even like the kind of pay that you give people.
You're like, yo, what we're doing is wildly illegal.
Right.
So shut the fuck up.
If any, so you got to know, I'll pay you whatever you need.
But this has to be under the table.
A lot of these people were like distant relatives of him.
His stepdaughter has been implicated in it too,
where she denied it when they asked for comment.
They're like, but we have like affidavits from people who, when we showed them your photo, they said, yeah, that was the woman
who came to get the thing. But again, Hey, it gets shadier and shadier. And then a Buzzfeed
published an article, I think yesterday or the day before that gives us sort of like a, a peek
into the inner workings of this thing, where I guess this guy, you know, he was getting a lot
of cash from the candidate, Mark Harris, and was just using cash to pay these people to go pick
them up. And so the candidate himself was giving him, he was paying the cash because he was a
consultant. And then, and there are a few other people on that ticket. I'm sure the sheriff
McVicker was also using him as well. Cause I don't think he was just having them, you know,
be endorsed or have the people who are picking up the ballots name check him when they're like, please support Mark Harris and Trevor McVicker. So in this thing, they were
saying like a lot of people, like even the people that were working on it, like some were like
addicted to opioids. Like there's a quote from this Buzzfeed article said one worker, she said,
was so fucking high the other day she passed out at the fucking computer. One of the workers who
collected absentee ballots from residents was a quote pill head, she said. And then they go on to sort of saying, this woman they spoke to said,
my job at the office was I read emails and I counted how many Republicans, Democrats and
non-affiliated people voted every day. I added up how many voted that day, wrote it on a piece of
paper, then they read it and then I don't know what they did with it. And then so they were like
tracking stuff maybe to like, you know, adjust what the levels of shenanigans that were occurring for
lack of a better word there isn't a better word yeah quite simply i guess it's a heinous fuckery
is one we use a lot right um and then one of the women also said that they had received money from
the county when buzzfeed couldn't verify that but when they asked someone who worked at the board
of elections one of the supervisors like the woman who would have been able to answer that question, she just like
surprise resigned last week, like a month early. I think her term was supposed to go to the end of
the year. So there's just a lot. It's just the evidence is like mounting more and more. And now
you have people who are straight up saying like, yeah, I went and got those ballots and I gave it
to this person. it's it's exhausting
like the the sheer volume and intricacies of the ways in which people are doing shady stuff like
across not just on a nationwide level but like local but you know like in state politics and
like it's i don't even know how you guys can wrap your i mean you do a grand job but wrap your heads
around just the sheer volume of fuckery yeah it appears to be happening at every fundamental
level of yeah it's it's uh i i don't know i i just look at the news there and go huh wow we're really
we're going there and every state has been doing that like like we talked about in wisconsin
the state assembly there basically completely kneecapped the powers of the incoming democratic
governor they're trying to pull the same shit in Ohio and Michigan.
They did it in North Carolina.
So their new tactic is just cheat by fucking any means necessary now.
Yeah.
And they're like finding like not loopholes. It's just that I guess there weren't statutes written because people assumed that we were going to at the very least respect the structures of government.
And then whoever's voted in because it's a democracy would rule in that sense.
But it's a, I don't know.
I mean, these should be massive scandals across the country
because I still can't believe the shit that's going on.
Yeah, and the mainstream media, when it comes to stuff like this,
for instance, with the Wisconsin thing,
I think there was a New York Times headline the other day
that was like, Wisconsin Republicans moved to shore up power as like to undercut Democrats as they come in.
And it's just like, that's not really what like they're basically trying to change the rules of democracy.
Right.
Like, it would be like if I robbed a bank and it's like man augments wealth with gun.
Right. Right.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
It seems like when it comes to very foundational assumptions that the whole society and culture rests on, the mainstream media doesn't like to look too closely at that shit.
Well, I guess they don't want to be.
I think it's the fear of being accused of them being rabble rousers by merely reporting on.
You know what I mean? Because there is that fear of the right thing that we rabble rousers by merely reporting on you know
i mean because there is that fear of the right thing that we've seen in the media play out a lot
right but i don't know maybe it's just we just don't have proper journalists there's also an
element of like uh you know the the the volume and number of ways in which the the entire government
are doing you know dodgy stuff it's like it's so much noise and smoke that it kind of
masks like a lot of the lower like you know it's hard it's hard for people to maintain interest
and like stay up to speed with so many you know like yeah yeah it's very it almost works like all
the dodgy shit that is going on at that top level it's like it almost masks you know yeah all the
delightfully shady stuff going down amongst the weeds Right Yeah, because the whole building's on fire
And you're like, which floor should we pay it to?
The whole building's on fire
Right
Does New Zealand work as a society?
Yeah, it's
It's functional?
It's stripped back
Yeah, nice
It appears to be a slightly more skeletal sort of framework by which we're abiding
There's less of us
Right
And both of our governments are fairly central More skeletal sort of framework By which we're abiding There's less of us Right And we've
Both of our governments
Are fairly central
Like there's not this huge
Chasm or divide between
Yeah
Right and left
As there is here right now
Wasn't there a president
Who liked to
Yank on girls' ponytails?
Yeah
Yeah
There was
Yeah there was our
Previous five minister
Guy John Key
Who was very well liked
And in charge for
Just shy of nine years
Yeah Zwer He just He said what? He John Oliver I've understood a guy, John Key, who was very well liked and in charge for just shy of nine years.
Yeah.
He's weird.
He said what?
John Oliver did a story about it. He was outed for a – he would go to like a local cafe and there was this waitstaff who he sort of thought he had quite an enjoyable, not flirtatious, but, you know, like almost rambunctious relationship with where he thought it was funny or cool
to yank on her ponytail.
She was like,
that's the Prime Minister,
it's such an eccentric behavior.
No right-thinking person in the world
would be like, oh, yeah.
Was he married?
Yeah.
So he must have,
that sounds very juvenile.
He must have been doing that for years.
Well, so then it turned out there were other instances
where he had been captured on camera yanking on women's ponytails.
Yeah, but it's like that's exactly part of how he was framed
and what made him appealing and, like, you know,
mask anything of genuine interest that he was doing
was because his outwards-facing character was this, like, idiotic larrikin
who, like, loved to ham it up and would do all this like dopey shit like that,
right.
Which kind of undercuts how intelligent he was.
Right.
You know,
more nefarious ways.
I mean,
you catch up,
man.
Our president's grabbing people by the genitals.
Right.
Yeah.
That's much more charming.
The ponytail thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Most people,
if it was a binary choice.
Yeah.
I would go with that one all right
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And so a bunch of European and American doctors and scientists have come out with a study that proves to me once and for all that those specific doctors and scientists have mental problems.
Oh, 100%. This is a very, very controversial study. one in which where they are trying to tell us americans that potatoes rank near the bottom
of healthful vegetables and lack the compounds and nutrients found in green leafy vegetables
and that if you take a potato remove its skin where i guess the nutrients are found right cut
it and deep fry the pieces in oil and top it off with all with salt and all this other shit
that that is a starch bomb that could be quote a weapon of dietary destruction they are fucking sick people yeah they're saying french fries are bad yeah i mean yeah i know oh
come on but but take your head out man they specifically suggest that you eat only six
french fries per serving which seems like they don't know what French fries are or something.
You binge eat them until even when they're cold, you just keep shoving them into your face hole.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I guess I always did wonder because there were so many studies being like,
if you want to eat something that has like a nutritional negative, eat French fries or whatever.
But I was like, well, then what's the rub here?
I guess six French fries and then maybe some salad and you can imagine the poor research assistant who was tasked with writing up
this the findings and the other one who's like six you know yeah finding out like six french fries
how could you type that out with this it's absolutely it's utter madness yeah it really is
it doesn't make any sense i mean it's it's, I don't know what to say.
It just makes my skin crawl.
The science world has been flip-flopping on potatoes for a long time.
You know, there's always like, it's potatoes and bread.
All these carby foods are like, oh, you've got to eat lots of bread.
You know, a week later they go, you better lay off the bread.
Maybe you didn't have too much bread from a week ago because it's really bad.
They've been pretty consistent
on the no starch thing
for the past,
like,
couple decades.
But you know how many,
they say the average American
eats 115 pounds
of potatoes a year.
115 pounds.
Two thirds of that
usually come in the form
of fries,
potato chups,
or frozen or processed
potato products.
Huh.
I mean,
what the,
look.
What happened to the good old days
of just hung into a raw skin-on potato?
Yeah, exactly.
Like an apple.
How did it get to this point
whereby two-thirds of the potatoes we consume
have been refined and fried?
Just raw potatoes.
That's what I say.
I don't know, man.
Like I said,
much in the same way that
Ennis Del Mar couldn't quit Jack Twist,
I can't quit these motherfucking fries.
I can't quit you.
I think it's a job.
It's on marketing now, you know?
Yeah.
It's up to the big fast food conglomerates to reframe the way
that they prepare and sell the potatoes.
Oh, right.
You know, Happy Meals, they subbed out fries for fruit.
Right.
What about a third option, which is just a small, dirty,
raw baby potato? That is the health option yeah
yeah i love fries but they say yeah if you eat fries two to three times a week you you definitely
increase your you die your risk for mortality yeah i think we're all at risk of mortality and
your chance of living your best life also right it shoots right up the risk of that happening
exactly are you a big uh fry
chips fan i'm your worst nightmare as a dining companion with regards to fries okay i'm like oh
no no no i won't order a bowl of fries but then someone else inevitably does and i'm like oh well
i'm gonna have a couple of those fries i'll have six right yeah monster i count them out yeah yeah
so what is your what is your fast food do you have a fast food uh sort of uh
secret uh something you love no well no i no i don't really i don't really mess around with fast
food too much i'm i'm a vegetarian which sort of means that it immediately cowls a lot of that from
your yeah your sphere i i'm still a sucker for a mcdonald's breakfast oh like if i'm ever at the
airport the mcdonald's aren't so prevalent at American airports, but in New Zealand, they're always there. And it's like, if I ever am flying
before 1030, although we just got 24 hour breakfast, but for a long time we didn't.
I was always like, oh, well, you know, I'm going to be getting an egg McMuffin and a
hash brown. I'm going to put the hash brown in the muffin and then put some Tommy sauce
on the bloody hash brown.
Wait, what sauce?
Tommy sauce, tomato sauce.
Oh, there we go.
There's a Kiwi slang coming.
Some little Tommy sauce there.
What's the Kiwi fast food like?
It's the same.
We just inherited all of your biggest ones.
There's no uniquely New Zealand fast food?
No, there was a run for a while of slightly more upscale burger chains,
which got a lot of traction.
But by and large we just
we took what we were given from you guys
is there anything that doesn't translate
that people just don't like in New Zealand
that's huge over here? Starbucks
good fuck Starbucks
good moving on
I think Starbucks tanked in Australia as well
huh
there's a real bit of coffee snobbery
going on in the interpiece.
Oh, interesting.
Oh.
You guys still drink coffee?
It's just you don't.
You go to like a specific cafe.
Right, a place that doesn't burn the shit out of it.
That's right.
Yeah.
All right, guys, let's talk Christmas music.
So apparently Baby It's Cold Outside has been sort of put out to pasture.
Apparently, yeah.
Yeah.
So this is something that I feel like we were talking about for a long time at Cracked.
And I think basically this was a standard internet comedy observation that that song is basically dramatizing a date rape of one man or another.
And so radio stations in Canada have stopped playing it altogether.
And Piers Morgan, our greatest cultural commentator.
The worst fucking Arsenal fan, too.
I would just stop being a fan of that team, Miles.
Trust me.
No, I can't.
It's bigger than one asshole
right uh there's a joke there but i know
get the measuring tape out so he basically told a woman came on and was like yeah but it just
really seems offensive and like he's not respecting her agency and uh piers
morgan to demonstrate that he got what she was saying told her to shut up so that was but um
sounds like he really got the message on listening to a woman yeah yeah and so apparently uh when it
was written it was written in the 40s and performed by a husband and wife and at that time there are a
couple ways that you can look at how the various phrases are taken now versus how they were
originally meant right and it is culturally different like what's in this drink is a thing
that somebody would say if they've been date raped no no not if they've been date raped if they... Been date raped. No, no, not if they've been date raped. If they had been...
In the 2018 iteration, maybe.
Right, in the 2018 iteration.
But back then it was a way to excuse your own behavior,
to be like, oh, what's in this drink?
We don't quite have the vocabulary for date rape yet.
Right.
And they were also saying that in the original version,
it was understood that the girl wanted to stay, but she didn't want her reputation tarnished by staying and that that's how it was originally taken.
But regardless, it now reads to anybody who listens to it that is under the age of 75 as a song in which a man is not respecting the agency of a woman who is like, I'd really
rather leave.
Right.
The real loss is the melody.
Yeah.
It's a beautiful melody.
Yeah, it is a fun melody.
Well, then maybe we'll just have to, someone will have to take that melody and then just
give it an update.
Yeah.
Let's just ask PETA to rewrite that song because PETA has been rewriting just old, old phrases
like-
PETA, the people for the ethical treatment of animals. Yeah. song because peter has been rewriting just old old phrases like peter that people were
animals yeah kill two birds with one stone uh is feed two birds with one scone uh which doesn't
mean the same thing you gotta you gotta pick a side peter it can't be like it's either an
equivalency or it's like something that sounds similar, but they've like straddled both.
Right, to create pure nonsense.
Yeah, just absolutely.
What was it, beat a dead horse or something?
Like feed a fed horse?
Yeah.
Okay.
That seems a little superfluous. You're overdoing it.
It's a little redundant, actually.
Feed a horse more than six French fries.
Yeah, literally.
So like I said, some radio stations
have just officially retired
it said we're not going to play it uh this year and it is i mean christmas is the time where
suddenly all these songs from the 40s start appearing on like pop radio stations and they've
just decided to retire this and this brought up the question of like what if we just started
retiring a christmas song every year our writer
jm mcnabb suggested that as a yeah and maybe you induct a new song into the canon the canon
on a similar ilk or note sorry there's a british comic named romesh ranganathan who uh he proposed
the rules for something called Whamageddon.
Whamageddon?
On Twitter.
Have you heard of Whamageddon?
So the basic rules are the first rule is the objective is to go as long as possible without
hearing Wham's Christmas classic.
Last Christmas.
Last Christmas.
That's right.
The second rule is the game starts as soon as December is upon us.
Okay.
Whamageddon is also upon us, and it ends, you know, as the bell tolls on Christmas Eve.
The third rule, only the original version of the song is eligible for Whamageddon.
So remixes and whatnot are okay.
And then the fourth rule, which is sort of the most intriguing part,
is as soon as you hear the song, you are eliminated from Whamageddon.
So it's sort of like you know it's it's a
it's trying to build a community of people you know we're trying to avoid
hearing that song absolutely but then you sort of you you like fold people
into the world of where I'm again so you tell a significant other or your friends
to start playing it and then you find creative ways to have them stumble up
you know if you don't want to leave it up to the gods you know setting people
up yeah like if you've got a phone connected to a
Bluetooth speaker in another room in a house
You're playing Wham again
And they go out to do something and you go bang
You're listening to Last Christmas
Or it's like a suicide bomb where you just play it
For the whole house
Just take out a whole house of everybody
If I can't be
All powerful like a god, I will destroy
Like a god
So what do you think of that song? Because that was actually A controversial pick If I can't be all powerful like a god, I will destroy like a god.
So what do you think of that song?
Because that was actually a controversial pick.
We were talking about which songs we'd retire.
Super producer Nick Stumpf, I think, had my favorite suggestion,
which is Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree.
I love that jazz guitar, those little licks.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would say 12 Days of Christmas, I'm fine with that fine 12 days of christmas needs to go the fuck away although i could just listen to a song that went five golden rings that's
my favorite part of the song just have somebody rap over that just that fuck yeah i'm sure someone
will loop that but it's just so repetitive that that's one that i have listened to this year
with my son and been like man man, this is bad music.
This is so fucking bad.
I guess you could give it like the CIA
trying to smoke you out of your hole test.
Like if you blasted it on loop,
like the one that would just make you break first,
I could see that actually melting me.
Well, yeah, because that song, by its very definition,
by its construction, is on loop.
Because you hear whatever the fuck the uh whatever the fuck i feel like come
december it's just free reign you know christmas music uh can can have its way with the the wicked
world yeah uh but i think an outright ban you know january through november is sort of the most yeah
i think that's fair yeah yeah that's the most humane way to go about a band. What is your favorite Christmas song?
I like,
what is it?
Merry Christmas,
like is it Sam Cooke who sings Merry Christmas?
Though it's been said
many times,
many ways.
Or is that
Nat King Cole?
I think it might be Nat King.
I might have added myself
as an ignoramus.
Well, there's,
I mean,
it's been done by many people.
It's a standard.
But it's,
you know,
I love that song.
Yeah.
Mariah Carey, I think, gets a lot of votes in our office as a song that shouldn't be
A sick person in the office tried to throw that one on the fire.
We said, no, absolutely not.
You stay away from Mariah.
One of mine is, I think we all found out, is the Vince Guaraldi trio of Christmas Time
this year from the Charlie Brown Christmas.
Yeah, favorite.
That's canon for sure.
Canon, canon. I think we can get rid
of any of the songs that talk about fucking Santa.
Yes. I saw Mommy Kissing
Santa Claus. Also Santa
Baby could maybe go.
It implies, I don't know.
It is another good melody
though. Yeah, God. See?
This is the problem. We love the melodies.
Yeah. Let's change the lyrics. But wait, so you don't like to think of though yeah god see and this is this is the problem yeah we love the melodies yeah just
change the lyrics i i so but what so you you don't like to think of santa as a sexual being
or the songs well no one time i saw santa fucking my mom well it was at the mall uh in the loading
dock area and i was very upset why yeah this this qualifies the opinion quite so firmly any other
questions guy i'm sorry it's just such an unlikely trigger.
I didn't know what I was waiting into.
Yeah, well, don't worry, man.
It's part of the getting to know each other process, mate.
Guy, it's been a pleasure having you, man.
Hey, yeah, thanks so much.
I've had a wonderful time.
Where can people find you?
At Guy underscore Mont on Twitter and Instagram
is probably the most guaranteed means of sourcing me.
All right.
And is there a tweet that you've been enjoying?
Oh, yes.
Actually, when we were just coming in,
I saw what I thought was a funny and timely tweet,
which was, it said,
not going to lie, this got me choked up.
And then it's an image of George W. Bush in quotations
as though this is what he said while eulogizing
his recently passed father
and it says
he wasn't just
the 41st president
of the United States
he was also
the 41st president
of my dad.
He's also the
41st president
of my dad.
Miles,
where can people find you?
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey.
Some tweets I like.
They come from Reductress, as usual.
One just says, it's a woman in this really picturesque winter setting with a nice coat on.
It says, four dramatic coats that will have people like, oh no, here she comes.
And another one that says, it looks like just a nice older mom
wearing a t-shirt with a kind of concerned look on her face
and says, obsessed much?
This mom wants to know if her daughter's alive.
I could not find another tweet about bootcut jeans,
unfortunately.
Pixelated Boat tweeted,
wow, the Captain Marvel trailer proves once again that Marvel is at the forefront of making movies I might watch on a plane in four years.
Which is how I consume most Marvel movies.
The way God intended them to be consumed.
You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
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We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com,
where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode
as well as the song we write out on Miles.
What is that going to be today?
This song is going to be from Pan Amsterdam.
A little rap.
The track is called Landlord Elijah.
And I really like the production.
If you're an old sample-based beat head like me, you're going to like this little rap.
So check that out.
Check it out.
We're going to ride out on that.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
We'll talk to you guys then.
Bye.
Mexicans in the building doing their demolition.
And we can't contend this because we only be five tenants.
No heat or hot water.
Landlord ran out of oil.
Confront him, don't bother.
Landlord thinks we're spoiled.
Taking English baths.
Damn, we're going under.
This was worse than when we had 10 bucks last summer.
Stock broke a friend from college.
Out of nowhere, it just hits me.
Hope he kicks some knowledge.
Share success with me.
Knowledge came at a strip
close he wanted to see some tits success came in 101s yo i pocketed them shits
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