The Daily Zeitgeist - Profits > People, CharCUTErie 12.14.20

Episode Date: December 14, 2020

In episode 778, Miles and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian Michael Kosta to discuss coronavirus relief, the attorney of general of Texas, all the news out of Disney this week, Britney Sp...ears and Backstreet Boys dropped a new song together, squirrel tables, the Zorro reboot, and more!FOOTNOTES: Coronavirus relief talks stall as liability issue foils negotiators FBI issues subpoena for Texas AG records after whistleblower allegations: report Chadwick Boseman Can't Be Replaced and Won't Be in Black Panther 2ā€”Plus, Other Highlights From Disney's Huge Investor Event Holy 2000, Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys released a new song together Everyone Gather Round the Squirrel Table. (Chipmunks Too!) NBC developing modern-day, gender-swapped Zorro reboot WATCH: Jonah Yano - Delicate (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus, only on Apple Podcasts. Oh, hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 164, Episode 1 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. It's the podcast, not the production, although this is a gigantic production. It's the podcast where we just kick the top off of America's skull and look into our shared consciousness and go, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And then just make some jokes for a little bit. It's Monday, December 14th, 2020, 40, 39, who knows, some days until January 20th, whenever the other guy gets booted out and the other guy moves into the White House. Anyway, my name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Never mind, guess I'll host without Jack. It's cool. Can't believe he up and left. I feel like a fool. I just got some code red
Starting point is 00:03:05 I remember he said then he took off to play cyberpunk instead okay thank you to Christy Yamaguchi Slane on the discord for that Adele aka dude you're getting Adele
Starting point is 00:03:21 I mean how could you how could we get that wrong and I'm thrilled to be joined in the co-host seat. I mean, really the host seat, you know, because I know what y'all are coming for. You're coming for the big Zamboni energy or the little Zamboni energy. Please welcome Jamie Loftus. A.K.A. La Petite Zamboni, a.k.a. Diet Napikoff. That's a fun one. I got this morning.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I'm like, that made me feel real smart. That made me feel... I feel... I almost did an Adele a.k.a. this morning, and I couldn't... I can't follow that. I can't follow that. I have... I've been mainlining Dunk into my head, and it hasn't yet reached.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Okay, okay. Well, before we bring uh the guest into the phrase just to run it off top what we're going to get into uh we're going to talk about where the senate is with the relief or if that's coming i don't know where they aren't uh and who they're actually seeking relief for yeah who are they going to give it to instead yeah who needs the relief right now is it corporate america or people were, I mean, I think we all know the answer to that. Ding dong, rapion. Let's see. Also, we'll be talking about the Texas attorney general who filed, you know, that really weird lawsuit with the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And you'd be like, I wonder, is he dying of pardon thirst? Is that what's going on? Could he be in some jeopardy? And that's why he's legally self-immolating in front of everybody we will dig into that uh also yes there was an announcement from our entertainment overlord disney uh who you know because they own all the ip so whenever they're like hey we got some announcements most people kind of need to be like okay what's going on what are they going to do uh so we'll check in with them as well as a new collab between britney spears and the backstreet boys in this the year of our lord 2020 uh and maybe we'll talk about squirrel tables and taylor swift who knows we'll get to all of that but first i mean we're honored uh to be joined today by a comedian uh journalist
Starting point is 00:05:19 uh just overall brilliant person you might know him from the daily show you might know him from his stand-up comedy you might know him because The Daily Show. You might know him from his stand-up comedy. You might know him because he introduced himself as Michael and you called him Mikey because you met him in New York. I don't know. And also somebody with a very newly released comedy special on Comedy Central called Detroit, New York, LA. Three cities I've been to.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Please welcome. Flex. The brilliant, the talented Michael Kosta. Hey. Thanks for having me. Thanks for classing Thanks for having me Thanks for being here Yeah, I have this kind of name That when I say my name is Michael People in New York then
Starting point is 00:05:54 Immediately call me some Nickname of it Big M, what's up Big M And it's like no I don't approve I do not accept your nickname of me. I'm Michael, and I appreciate you having me. You're just full Michael. I like that.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I like Michael. It was Mike as a kid, and then I grew up, and I said it's time to be Michael, I think. Okay, I'm curious about this. That's good. Was there that moment where you were like, I don't feel like Mike anymore. I think I need to own the adult Michael now.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I think I made a three-pointer in an organized basketball game, and I said, I'm now Michael. I can shoot deep. Mike couldn't make that shot. Mike would have gone to the paint, gotten fouled, missed both free throws. Exactly. And I'm guessing, so your special Detroit, New York, L.A. I know you're in New York now. You said you've lived in Los Angeles. Tell me about Detroit. What's going on? path so i want to take the viewers in the same path i did so we started this really great theater downtown detroit and then we within 10 minutes i'm on a bicycle in manhattan going to the new
Starting point is 00:07:11 york comedy club grimy gritty damp basement show and then uh 20 minutes later i'm at the hollywood improv off of melrose avenue three totally different places. Three totally different audiences. And I just kind of want the viewer to experience some of the nonsense that we all go through as a stand-up comic. I'm so excited to see it.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah, Detroit. I love, man. I haven't been in eight years, but I want to go back. I love Coney's. Yeah, it's wild to go back now because you see a lot of construction. And when I grew up there, you never saw construction. It was like they had just given up on it. And now it's funny. I've never been happy to say, oh, good, they're redoing the streets.
Starting point is 00:07:57 This is terribly inconvenient to get around right now, but it means someone is putting some money and energy into this place, which is great. Who would have thought in this country? Infrastructure, baby. Putting money into infrastructure. What is this? Socialist Denmark?
Starting point is 00:08:11 Anyway, well, let's get into you, Michael, a little bit. Why don't you tell us something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Yeah, it really is revealing because the search is ready what is kink sex okay now now the reason it's revealing is because i'm i'm close with my family i'm onto something but you're onto something and um my mom is a therapist and she has a couple new clients. And I said, hey, I was your new client today. And she said, well, I had to Google kink sex. And then I'm like, what the fuck is kink?
Starting point is 00:08:54 I don't even know what that is. And I'm almost 100% certain mom is wrong about the terminology. So then I Googled what she had said, and I just read that it's basically like kinky sex. Right. Anything you're into role playing, any fetish stuff, voyeurism, BDSM, that all falls under kinky. I would be really surprised if it ended up being something different. It would be interesting. Well, that's what I thought. It's just a general blanket. But then I'm like, Mom, why wouldn't your client be more specific about what it is that he or she is into? Because kink can mean a few different things. Yeah, it's a very wide umbrella.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yes. So was your mom like, so it was one of those moments where you're like, I don't know if your definition is the same one. So you had to sort of like, let me just try and find the real answer. Was she insisting it was something specific? Or she was like, I don't know if your definition is the same one. So you had to sort of be like, let me just try and find the real answer. Was she insisting it was something specific or she was like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know how you guys read your text messages from your parents, but I am reading most of it going, this is a complete exaggerated nonsense. Okay. And so like when my mom texts me, hey, our neighbor says your Comedy Central special isn't showing up on the guide. I go, you're an old woman who doesn't understand anything. And then I find out that it's actually 100% correct and this is a problem.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And I have to reach out to the comedy network because it's not showing up on the guide. So I just thought she was kind of like not pulling the wrong terminology, which I kind of still feel like she was. I was hoping I was going to Google it and be like, kink sex is when this happens, this happens, this happens. But it's not. It's a very, it's a wide umbrella. So I appreciate you guys reaffirming that for me. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's when you're blasting the albums of the kinks while in bed. I could also see a patient kind of like getting nervous and cutting themselves off before getting too specific. They're like, you know, kinky sex. And then seeing whatever facial expression your mom made and then like, I think I'm going to move on. I've definitely done that before, before I get too specific with a therapist. I'm like, I don't think, I don't want to, I don't have time to, I can't, I'm paying
Starting point is 00:11:03 a lot for this and I can't, I don't have time to burn time explaining to you what I'm talking about. It's funny when you get a new therapist and you're expending a lot of energy being like, how am I going to present this to this person? And then I'm already burning myself out trying to describe something I'm working on and trying to be like, I think I'm being judged. And they're like, wait, I'm in therapy. So I loaded, I loaded the gun with a full clip. You know what? I'm just going to move on to a new story. Because we do judge their face.
Starting point is 00:11:32 100%. We assess their face and go, oh, they are judging me. Of all the people they talked to today, I get the face? They think I'm a loser. That's my greatest fear in this life. Why am I getting the face? Michael, what's something that you think is underrated? Well, I was going to say silence.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And then I thought that that's probably like a hacky answer. And then I said, you know what? I'm not going to let Miles and Jamie intimidate me with my answer. Like some therapist. Which we've been known to do. Which we've been known to do. Which I've been known to do. I'm a big fan of silence. I think it's harder and harder to get it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I believe in noise pollution. I think I would love it if we could backtrack on the key fobs to check if your car's locked. I mean, everybody is over clicking yeah i'm guilty of that it's like i needed to honk three times why you're a smart guy what yeah i think it's just this like it's like a thing where you're just like because i've had you know i've just had shit stolen out of my car once before us or maybe a couple times uh but where i'm like make sure but i know at a certain point like i was like, I think I need to find a way for it to not do the horn.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I know, but it'd be nice if they gave us options if just the lights flashed or something. And for all the listeners at home, I just did the headlight light flash with my hand. Yes, we all know that. We all understand. I want to paint the picture for the listeners. The hand choreography was next level.
Starting point is 00:13:01 We definitely appreciate that. But yeah, like news, I'm sure for you, noise pollution, living in the city that never sleeps uh what is like are you finding ways to yeah i just kind of made that up i think but is there is there like do you find yourself doing things to create sort of that atmosphere for yourself or you're just kind of experiencing being like damn i wish quiet quiet is way better than this shit i i i find now that even when i go home to michigan it's like i can never not hear a leaf blower and like now when i sit in my uh tiny living room in new york i'm like always hearing the refrigerator or i'm always hearing a car drive by.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And so maybe what I'm discovering through this conversation is it's not that I find silence is underrated. It's that I, maybe like I have a too high of a sensitivity to noise or something, especially like mechanical compressors. It seems like a mechanical compressor. Well, especially if you don't have access to silence that like makes it all the more valuable because you're like well i couldn't even have it if i wanted it this thing that we should all sort of have access to that's what you struggle with like silence makes me tense up in a way that i'm like i should probably do some work on that but i always like i don't maybe it's like
Starting point is 00:14:22 i grew up with like my parents watching tv while i went to sleep so just some background noise feels comfortable and so when actual like when true silence happens it's terrifying i love that when it's so quiet it's fucking loud as shit and you're like yeah that's why i love going to the desert and shit when you're just like i'm not hearing a thing there's something to that. Space must be wild. Oh, God. You're in space like, did I hear something?
Starting point is 00:14:49 You heard literally absolutely nothing and you're going to die now. Yeah. It's a vacuum. I think, Jamie, you hit it right because my father, I grew up in a home where commercials were on, bang, mute. Oh, wow. commercials were on, bang, mute. Oh, wow. If you had something in your hand and you were kind of like
Starting point is 00:15:07 fidgeting, my dad would grab it and he'd be going, we're going to put that down. It's going to be quiet now. So I'm just like, I just got my dad in my head. So you like value silence. That's cool. We're all becoming our parents. There's church bells behind me right now and I'm furious about it.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And you're like, hey, Christ. Pipe down for a second, huh? We get it. Silence. You're dead. It's your birthday coming up. Fuck. Jesus Christ, I've been saying this for years.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Jesus Christ is taking up too much space. I think so, yes. He needs to make more space for people. Yeah, make space, Jesus. I mean, the crucifix game is so congested. It can only be him. I mean, really. Think of the other people. But, yeah, the other thing I game is so congested. It can only be him. I mean, really. Think of the other people.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But yeah, the other thing I found myself doing in the lockdown, and I said this very early on in the lockdown, was just like this app called Portal because it's just like 3D nature atmospheres. And I have like noise-canceling headphones that I wear that with. And it's like reading a book or anything else is so much more pleasant, especially like when you're in a very, you know, condensed packed urban area. So yeah, I'll always, but, but even noise canceling headphones,
Starting point is 00:16:11 like they kind of have some thing they, they do. They like shoot out white noise or something. And, and so look, this is something that has been in my brain for a while. And that's why, you know, I, I was like, do I disclose such a personal item to the Daily Zeitgeist? And I did. And I don't want you to judge me on this. No, no. Judge me. How about this?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Let's reevaluate what silence means to all of us and try to be more comfortable in silence. And that's what my goal is this week. Well said. I love that. You just brought that down, Michael. Now let's move on to something that you think is this week. Well said. I love that. You just brought that down, Michael. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Now let's move on to something that you think is overrated. I think there's too much fried chicken. I feel like every restaurant's got a fried chicken sandwich now. Hot chicken. Hot chicken. fried chicken sandwich now. Hot chicken. Hot chicken. I feel like Kale hired this publicist 15
Starting point is 00:17:08 years ago, and then Truffle Mac and Cheese hired the same publicist, and I feel like Fried Chicken then hired that publicist as well. I think it should be exceptional when you have it, but you shouldn't have it as often as it's being presented.
Starting point is 00:17:24 That's it. You can't look. Look, that's it. Okay. That's it. Back off. That's it. The dealer's out. Sorry, shift change. I got nothing more.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I think, yeah, LA is, it happened in such a violent way, right? It was howling rays came and everyone's like, yo, because I get it. All these food trends are like sort of offshoots of some Guy Fieri thing. Like you go on, you watch a food travel show and you're like, man, in Nashville, they got this shit called hot chicken. And for me, I love fried chicken. I love spicy food. It's the intersection of one of the two most important culinary roads in my life at the moment. So I was like, yes, fuck yes.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Howlin' Rays opens up in L.A. and the line is like 17 hours. And that's cue for the rest of the city to be like all right i think this is what everyone needs to pivot to and i think i'm not joking in the valley i think there's like 42 hot chicken places now uh that have popped up instantly we went on like a drive the i forget why we we had to like drive across the city this week but it was like so many places that had popped up since i last drove all the way across the city this week, but it was so many places. It had popped up since I last drove all the way across the city six months ago. You're like, who is even going to these places?
Starting point is 00:18:31 That used to be a Washington Mutual. Right. Wasn't that a public library at one point? But now it's a really expensive chicken restaurant. I may have mixed up overrated with oversaturated but i would also argue that maybe those are parallel that i think so that exists and yeah what's the next what's next like you know you you guys live in la you know no one ever creates the new thing you just make another of the thing that was first and successful so i'm always thinking like okay we
Starting point is 00:19:04 had truffle mac and cheese or truffle seems to be everywhere. I thought truffle was a delicacy. It's everywhere. I still don't understand what it means. When someone says something is truffle, what are they saying? It's just because of a truffle. It's like a mushroom, basically. Just the flavor
Starting point is 00:19:19 and it's the umami of it and it takes these hogs. I don't even know if I can swear on this podcast. No, you can when we talk about truffles. Shit. Get that shitty truffle out of my fucking face right now. I think the other thing that's
Starting point is 00:19:36 expensive is it takes pigs to find them. They have to find them under the ground. They're hard to dig up. I remember on the Vice channel years ago, spending a day with Manhattan's truffle dealer king. them under the ground yeah like they're hard to dig up and then i remember like on the vice channel like years ago i was like spending a day with like manhattan's like truffle dealer king and it was like this weird as shit and you guys like yeah yeah i can get you that but that's gonna be about five grand right there and it's like this like wall street yuppie drug dealer vibe it's so stupid
Starting point is 00:19:58 i would watch a cartoon about truffle pigs that's that's more interesting oh yeah right yeah i think there's more of there's definitely like a pair like a sort of uh allegory to like the working class corporate work relations with like truffle pigs do it like extracting from the earth these things these other people overvalue and they're like why do we have to do this done done jamie get on it capitalism all right perfect is there like in in uh new york are you like is i'm guessing fried chicken is basically everywhere as well or are you seeing other and you know i i went out to dinner last night and by out to dinner i mean sat in the street and someone had built a shoddy outdoor home Depot two by four with some plastic as I just froze you know um and I know this must be hard for you guys in LA to hear about such a thing but
Starting point is 00:20:53 we have outdoor dining here kind of but people you know no one has any money no restaurant has like extra money lying around after seven months of nobody going to a restaurant so they've built these like outdoor spaces. So I'm sitting there and I'm looking at the menu and it's just like, it was just fried chicken. The waiter's like, you got to get the fried chicken. It's so good. And I'm just like, it's always the same goodness.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's just everywhere. What's the next sandwich? You tell me. I'd love to know what the next one is. This is kind of the sort of thing where every time a food trend like this happens, I get annoyed with it in the moment, but then when it's over, I get really sad. Like, oh, remember when you could get chicken anywhere? Right, right. You're like, damn, remember cupcakes when they came out of ATMs?
Starting point is 00:21:35 Cupcakes were hot for a few minutes there. I felt that way about frozen yogurt. I was like, man, when I was in college, there was a frozen yogurt shop on every corner. And then I'm i'm like i sound 500 years old like me and doo-wop groups when i was on every fucking corner you know what i mean yeah i i think the next food i it's always interesting to think of like what the next ethnic food trend is going to be because like that's always like the thing that like the trends happen is like i don't know if you guys have had nepalese food before and everyone's like oh you gotta have it like taiwanese food was becoming big like in the east side of la for a little bit but yeah i'm always well the the the kind of run sriracha's had has been interesting because you know i remember always kind of enjoying sriracha feeling like
Starting point is 00:22:24 maybe i knew something others didn't. And then I was in Silver Lake one day and like, I saw a table of like six kids wearing a Sriracha t-shirt. Right, right. And I'm like, okay, Sriracha's come and gone, but it is an excellent sauce. Yeah. But why did it get so popular? Why did it pop off? Maybe fried chicken. Maybe that's what hot fried chicken is is it right i don't know you never know i think it's just like sriracha became one of those things that felt like exotic but was available everywhere and people's been like oh yeah that thing with the fucking rooster on it that's good oh fuck yeah i know that and they buy it a buddy of mine like wrote the sriracha cookbook
Starting point is 00:23:00 like in like the early 2010s or something and it was it was purely like it was truly one of those things that was like the hottest thing at an urban outfitters during christmas you know when it was like the sriracha fucking cookbook get the fuck in y'all uh so yeah shout out to him all right let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk some stories. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.
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Starting point is 00:25:48 like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband. Daphne Spring, Daniel Thrasher, Peppermint, Morgan J., and more. You gotta watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you gotta listen. Like, if you're watching us, you got to watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you got to listen.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Like if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just just you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school
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Starting point is 00:27:15 Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and oh plop plop fizz fizz where the relief is mitch mcconnell um okay okay i'm i don't know i just i just vibed that one out off the cuff right there. I was just feeling that one. But yes. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I liked the journey. We're looking for a relief bill to come out of the Senate, something that acknowledges that people have only received one check from the federal government throughout this entire lockdown. And, you know, for whatever reason, the Republicans are very much like, well, you know, who knows what it's going to do? Like, if it's good, we really need that much.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Like, are these real people even that exist? Like, I thought poor people were like a myth we made up to keep people in line with capitalism. I don't know. Sure. Go back to the classic of like, I'm pretty sure most of these people have died. No, no, no, no, no, no. They're going to die. If you don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Syntax got mixed up. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I think the refrain from the entire country at the moment is asking, begging the question, where is the relief? Where are these checks going?
Starting point is 00:28:37 When are they coming? What is happening with these negotiations in the Senate? And, you know, I think we're looking at, well, who's getting the relief? Who is that? Who is Mitch McConnell going to ride for in this instance? And he's made it clear since the fucking be like the first relief bill was coming out. He is very concerned about the liability of companies more than anything. Yeah, that is his biggest concern. And at the moment,
Starting point is 00:29:01 that is what's holding up the negotiations um you know they're saying that right now mcconnell is like the the offer from the republicans is how about an 18 month federal shield on coronavirus litigation meaning if you were if you were so fucking greedy that you harmed your employees in the pursuit of money um guess what? They can't sue you because you were acting like... Yeah. And so that's the current hill that Republicans are choosing to kill the country on. That's wild because a lot of that is
Starting point is 00:29:34 meatpacking. Remember like Trump declared a meat emergency or whatever the hell it was and then all these more or less illegal immigrants who work and pack the meat all were forced to go to work and get sick. And then now they have even less legal rights to like,
Starting point is 00:29:51 you know. Yeah, do anything. To do anything. Yeah. When you look in places like, I think it was like one of those Tyson processing plants too, where the executives were quite, they were telling the translation staff
Starting point is 00:30:04 because like you're saying there's a lot of people uh who are coming into work that aren't speaking english so they actually need to deploy translators on the processing floor to communicate to the workers they were saying don't talk about covid to anyone down there just stay fucking they would when they did speak to a journalist they're like i noticed that the person who stood next to my left for 11 straight years like went away for four days and like because that person was sick and died i mean it's like right it's also i can order nine packages of chicken breast because oh no the pandemic's coming i want to have food in my freezer right uh yeah it was i didn't realize that that's what mcconnell was held up
Starting point is 00:30:45 over now that's messed yeah i mean right now you know his first the first thing he wanted like earlier this year he was asking for a five fucking year period of liability protection for businesses schools health care providers and other organs and other organizations because you know like we're saying this whole lockdown or don't lock down open up we need to earn money it's all based around this thing is that no company or the federal government is willing to actually subsidize lost wages or these other things to get people to comply to actually get a hold on this thing so people's only recourse is to go to work and possibly get sick and work for a boss who's not going to be in there because they're not going to get fucking sick. But you damn sure better clock in because I need to see money in the till by the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So as it stands right now, it doesn't look good for Americans because, you know, until they can guarantee that they're the wealthy aren't going to be held accountable. It seems like that's the you know that's the biggest uh impasse at the moment and like we were talking about yesterday i mean it just already seems pretty unlikely that a biden administration is going to do much to progress that and do much to progress you know any labor movement in any meaningful way because the um because the the cabinet is already stacked with billionaires and people who represent billion dollar companies and so it's just very bleak extremely bleak yeah yeah and it's just it's a tough it's just such a really fucked up thing to
Starting point is 00:32:17 just behold when you're like wow we're really here because mitch mcconnell's like i gotta protect these companies from getting sued for being just you know pathologically greedy to the point that it's causing death uh so yeah welcome to america uh let's move on to texas and the attorney general there ken paxton who he was he caused a lot of shock waves last week um when he went straight to the supreme court and was like uh here's the deal essentially like without getting into the legalese because i don't even think there was any legalese in the complaint or the lawsuit he filed his whole complaint of trying to overturn the election with a few other attorneys generals attorneys general uh were that
Starting point is 00:33:01 he was saying specifically dear supreme court um texas wanted trump and these other swing states that let joe biden win uh because they wanted to like make voting easier in a pandemic that actually violated the desires of the people of texas um so you need to overturn the entire election. And even like Samuel Alito was like, what? What does that even mean, dude? Yeah, that's like a waste. I mean, not that any of these have not been a waste of time, but this is a special waste of time.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah, absolutely. And it's just a really, you know, that's the nature of the current lawsuits that are just getting body slammed by judges. Yeah. I mean, it's weird every time I think that they're starting to kind of die down and that it's like, okay, someone's going to just take an L, finally. There's three more. And I've honestly stopped keeping up with them because we're like, well, none of these are going to fucking go anywhere. Knock on wood. Right. But it's just it's sad it's pathetic make me sad well it's it's also
Starting point is 00:34:10 it's it's it has this weird effect of being like we're laughing at the coup but like not being like no they're this is like this is a this is an indicator of how bad things are actually even though we're like that's all you got it's's like, yeah, but they're trying it. This is new. They're trying this nonsense. Yeah, I mean, it's like after the year that we're having, it is like just so, it just makes my heart sink when you're like, it's good news when you say like,
Starting point is 00:34:37 the coup is failing. Like that's where we're at. Is it a potential feeling of optimism because some of the checks and balances are working? Like part of me was thinking, hey, I'm not going to pay attention to this bullshit because it's bullshit. But then I was like, well, wait a second. That's how like stuff sneaks up on you. And all of a sudden we have Donald Trump for another four years. And all of a sudden we have Donald Trump for another four years.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But I'm like kind of pumped that some of these federal judges who more or less have been appointed by Republican president are are giving it an L. So that made me happy a little bit. Yeah. No, I think that's the like at that point, it's like, OK, those institutions held up. But we're also seeing that there it's like anything like they're hacking the law in a way of like well that didn't work let's try this version like of like brute force ways of trying to username and password where it might work at some point but i think the real alarm should be like okay we actually need to we need better safeguards around this it's like relying on norms yeah it's like oh good our backup parachute worked and you're like, well, what happened to the first parachute? Why did we get pushed out
Starting point is 00:35:48 of a plane? Yeah, your backup worked though. Yeah, your backup worked. It's like, I would rather not have to use the backup. Well, hold on because before this, if I recall, I was eating hot chicken at a restaurant and then someone put an ether rag over my mouth and then I awoke to being pushed
Starting point is 00:36:04 out of a plane in which my first shoot didn't work and now you're saying, rag over my mouth and then I awoke to being pushed out of a plane in which my fursuit didn't work and now you're saying, good thing my backup worked. So I'm grateful that I'm not dead, but I was regardless, we were pushed out of a plane. Shouldn't we do something about that? I think you're missing the point here. You're good.
Starting point is 00:36:20 No, that'll just happen. That'll happen every once in a while. But what about next time? Who knows, it'll be about next time who knows it'll be the next time um but yeah this guy ken paxton he is he's actually he's quite literally currently under indictment for securities fraud that was happening back in 2015 so you know it's hard to look at somebody you're like well i mean maybe that's just a one-off maybe he's he's actually suing and having this ludicrous lawsuit
Starting point is 00:36:45 because he believes this is what the constitution should be i mean in the beginning of his lawsuit he starts off saying quote our country stands at an important crossroads either the constitution matters and must be followed even when some officials consider it inconvenient or out of date or it is simply a piece of parchment on display at the national archives we asked the court to choose the former oh that like what your argument is that people made it easier okay sir thank you we've had enough of that um and he was shooed out of the building um but as you sort of like look on uh like why do this because we know why rudy giuliani has been going all in he's making twenty thousand dollars a day and he needs a pardon when all is said and done so we're like yeah this guy's gonna fucking do whatever he can to stay in trump's good graces and ken paxton
Starting point is 00:37:37 i mean look is he are the feds watching him or something oh Oh, I think they actually are. He is under investigation by the FBI. Ken Paxson was just subpoenaed, uh, for his personal records because of bribery claims. Tit for tat. This man, the one that is under indictment for securities fraud, him,
Starting point is 00:38:01 um, this all comes because his staff raised like alarm bells back in october because they were saying he was making moves to help this guy nate paul not related to jake paul i don't think um who is an austin investor is still sinister no matter what way you spin it no matter what um and is like a huge donor like he got like 25 000 for him from him and then apparently ken paxton hired like an outside lawyer to investigate this donor's claims that the fbi like fucked up the raid on his house and office last year and like so shit should be negated so he he really went through with that and also says
Starting point is 00:38:36 that um one of the guys this donor employed uh there was a woman that he employs the attorney general had an affair with this woman and then also like recommended her for a job like high up somewhere else. So the whistleblower lawsuit is becoming very huge. So I can't imagine that any scrutiny from the feds would motivate this kind of nonsense from him. No, it's interesting to see. Ken Paxton.
Starting point is 00:39:03 OK, fine. I guess I'll I guess I'll pay attention to this story. Fine. I mean, you don't have to in the sense that like legally, I mean, truly like legally the options are running out. The Kraken lawsuits with Sidney Powell. I mean, I can't even believe I'm giving it the dignity of calling them the Kraken lawsuits. But the Kraken that was released has been fully shoved back down into the sea to never emerge again. So I think that's, again, another reason, you know, a lot of people are curious now that the legal routes are exhausted.
Starting point is 00:39:32 What will Trump pivot to? Because his desire to upend things, I don't think is, you know. And was all this legal just him buying himself time? Right. Make some other sinister plan, figuring out his pardons, distracting the media so he could do whatever is next. I do think, yeah, he doesn't want to lose. No one wants to lose.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Maybe he thought he could win. But I do think some of this legal nonsense was like him figuring out what he's supposed to do now, you know, buying himself some time. Yeah, absolutely. And it seems like even the way he was hiring lawyers, it was like straight improv where it's like, I'm sorry, who's willing to debase themselves in front of a judge? Four seasons total landscaping was like, yo, we have to do a press conference now. like, yo, we have to do a press conference now. And I mean, to me, that was like, yo, I'm jingled the keys. So we in media all like look that way.
Starting point is 00:40:34 And I'm like trying to go, what is going on over here? Like, why are they doing a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping? Well, Miles, I think it was you a couple of weeks ago on the show, like who brought up like that Steve Bannon theory of just spewing as much shit as you possibly can into the new cycle yeah just to just to kill what i mean that's yeah i'm assuming maybe this is too generous but i'm assuming that that's what giuliani's been doing that's what i mean that's what a lot of people have been doing to just flood the new cycle with as much shit as possible and then to make it as difficult as you can to figure out what the what is the important story or any of us who've worked on a day rate we're just trying to
Starting point is 00:41:09 justify our 20k day rate every day like dude i was out there man you saw me i got that woman who was you know maybe sipping on something before that hearing in michigan but you know it's all good um but yeah so we'll we'll see i mean i think at the end of the day, like this lawsuit is basically like a very like soft civil war attempt, essentially. We're like, as this state over here, I'm trying to fuck over nine other states. It's like, huh? But, you know, they'll keep trying. And I think it's something to really keep an eye on because, you know, we as that one article in The Atlantic, it's like we don't have the nuanced language in this country or imagination to describe these kinds of power grabs because we've been so used to like the pomp and circumstance and formalities of being like yes and
Starting point is 00:41:54 gentlemen yes so i maybe i will maybe only committed to light fuckery during that election but a win's a win you know like we we're we're still kind of stuck there so yeah we got to be able to call uh a coup a coup even if it's a bullshit one. And next, I just want to talk about Disney really quick because they had this announcement and it like consumed half of like entertainment Twitter because they had like their shareholder meeting or whatever, where they're just sort of announcing what some of the bigger plans are. And I think because they own like 70% of the IP that does like numbers in the theaters and on TV, we kind of need to see what's going on.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And it's interesting, like the biggest thing I think that people were curious about was what was going to happen with Black Panther 2 because Chadwick Boseman passed away. And they were like at this thing, they said they have confirmed quote, honoring Chadwick Boseman passed away and they were like at this thing they said they have confirmed quote honoring Chadwick Boseman's legacy and portrayal of T'Challa
Starting point is 00:42:49 Marvel Studios will not recast the character but will explore the world of Wakanda and the rich characters introduced in the film blah blah blah because there were talks of like digitizing him and I mean that's what happened to Carrie Fisher in like the back half of the Star Wars movies that were filmed after she passed away.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I I never know how to feel about that. Right. Decision. I'm like, I guess I guess I don't feel one way or another about it. Is it a respect thing or is it more of like for me as a viewer, it looks weird and I know it's digital, so I don't like it. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what I don't know what uncomfortable I but was Black Panther 2 shooting already when Chadwick Boseman passed away I guess I don't really understand what at what point in the timeline um everything like everything kind of shifted like was he almost done shooting because that would make more sense to me as if he had shot quite a bit of it before passing away and then you digitized the rest.
Starting point is 00:43:47 If you were shooting and worked on the film, I understand and I think it's kind and respectful to try to put that actor in the movie. But controversial statement coming up, I believe that life is for the living and to just bring him back as a digital because we like him so much i say give that opportunity to another young actor that's uh that's what i would say right but if i just cancel myself bring it on you know what i mean this guy says let living actor portray someone
Starting point is 00:44:19 well i mean yeah yeah because on one hand they're like we want to honor the contribution to the character and like i get that like you know especially like with fandoms like there's a lot of they we sanctify the people who are playing these characters so on one hand i get that i feel like yeah it's it would definitely be too soon to recast it i don't think it's like you can never recast t'Challa again. I don't really believe in that, to your point. Those would be some big-ass shoes
Starting point is 00:44:49 to try to follow. I'm not saying some young actor is going to love the idea of... It would almost be like... Yeah, I don't know who would want to. Yeah, exactly. I was trying to think of comparable situations where there was...
Starting point is 00:45:01 I did not watch this movie, but the movie... The last movie that Heath Ledger shot, obviously not The Dark Knight, it was like a toy maker or an inventor or something like that. And he like passed away halfway through the shoot. And then they- Oh, the Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. And then they just sort of turned it into like this multiverse where multiple people played that character. So they were able to use his footage, but it also became a collaborative effort that sort of celebrated him. I don't know. I mean, they've made their decision, so who fucking cares what I think. Well, they haven't shot any Black Panther 2.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Nothing's been shot yet. So there is no footage to reckon with or anything like that i mean it's interesting that we can even have this discussion honestly because 10 years ago this conversation would be basically impossible to have of like right you wouldn't be able to create a convincing enough digital um you know replica of someone who's yeah and at that point is it a black panther film you know what I mean? Like if we're in the MCU and it is just about Wakanda and other things like do you call it Black Panther still? I mean, that's for Ryan Coogler to figure out. I also think you can't computer generate a Chadwick Boseman performance like that. He's amazing. Like he was amazing.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Has there ever been a good digitized performance? I'm trying. I found I found the Carrie Fisher ones to be really kind of like ghoulish and and scary i didn't i don't know it made me uncomfortable to watch because i loved like i you know it's like these are beloved performers you know how they act in these parts but and then when you see it digitally repeated and you know that it just there's still that kind of dissonance. Yeah, yeah, because otherwise they would just do this
Starting point is 00:46:46 for every actor. Like you, I don't know. I don't know. I'm being digitized right now, but to your point, Miles, I don't feel like this has been a great performance.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Right. I disagree. I highly disagree. Okay, okay. So the other things that are being announced, Nia DaCosta is directing Captain Marvel 2. She's directing Candyman, I think, or directed Candyman. And then so Captain Marvel 2 so the other things that are being announced nia da costa is directing captain marvel 2
Starting point is 00:47:05 she's directing candy man i think or directed candy man and then so captain marvel 2 is coming out uh i love that i love the first one also because they shot one of the scenes in a parking lab by my elementary school that i grew up in in north hollywood so shout out to that scene um and then also the uh the reimaginedermaid, that is going, they've already been like, okay, we're confirming but reconfirming the actors. That was a thing that had people all up in arms. It's like, it can't be a mermaid of color. What the fuck is this? And it's like, yeah, well, buckle the fuck up, ignorant fucks.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Fucking Christ. Mermaids are white. Yeah, like really? That's the take? Did that happen? People were pissed off about that oh it was it was like fucking love of the internet ridiculous yeah because it's like what do you mean like at what point you know like the sort of like original shithead like internet troll logic of like well that character is white so it should be white it's like that even that dumb logic i can see the pathway there even though it's absolutely stupid
Starting point is 00:48:11 but with like something like this it's like we're talking about a fucking mythical creature and a fucking cartoon like that's being adapted from a cartoon like what kind of oh like i think it could be like people for red hair they feel like maybe it's erasure you know i mean because ariel's iconic uh with the red hair but yeah at that point like really is this what i'm on yes like serious that's bullshit that was such a frustrating um frustrating controversy because it kept going and going and going and going and it's like everyone fucking chill out all the live action reboots suck anyways like why can't we just like just shut up jesus uh lando calrissian donald glover is coming back to play young lando because
Starting point is 00:48:59 they're gonna have a series for disney plus i know that was like a rumor but you know i like to see that uh and then the other one, Whoopi Goldberg, she teased it, but Sister Act 3 is in development and will premiere. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:12 is Kathy Najimy going to be in it too? Is Maggie, what's her name? Is Professor McGonagall, whoever the fuck? Oh, Maggie Smith? Maggie Smith?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah, she's in the first one. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I mean, she's kicking. Maybe she'll come back. Damn. Yeah, I know. We're like, wasn't she? Oh, that's right. Yeah. I mean, she's kicking. Maybe she'll come back. Damn. Yeah, I know. We're like, will those elderly people also be in the house? Was Sister Act...
Starting point is 00:49:34 I forgot. Why was she... She was disguising herself as a nun, correct? Yes. She was on the run. She was on the run. From what? Ah, God. I forgot what the exact... Just generally unsavory yes she was on the run she was like she was on the run yeah right from what uh god just generally unsavory characters i feel like it was like every 90s film my recollection was that something happened where like someone she was in a relationship with did something
Starting point is 00:49:58 illegal and that she had to be like her identity had to be protected she didn't do anything but she like was close with someone who did something. The classic plot of every great movie, which is you're living your life as a quirky character until you witness a murder. Exactly. That's what it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:18 She saw her boyfriend kill a fucking snitch. That's what it was. Yeah. So she had to go into witness protection. Don't snitch. Don't snitch. I mean, yeah, exactly. why wasn't it called like snitchter act or something just let people know like this is actually a movie about snitching uh but yeah her name dolores van cardie i remember that oh my god that's a perfect character name yeah all right
Starting point is 00:50:41 uh we're gonna take another quick break and we'll talk a little bit more some more some more popular culture. Where was the Babu Frick? That was my question. No Babu. Oh, the Babu Frick spinoff. I'm out. I'm out.
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Starting point is 00:55:38 You already got it. Yeah, Matches. It's called Matches. And you know what? Let's just play a little bit of it and just get our thoughts on the other side here. You know I can see your brain screaming my name. And if it's up to me. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:55 I am up for it. I'll get you in between. It's killing me. It's good kind of killing me. Like playing with matches. Okay. Ooh. Okay. You know, you like that drop? I couldn't give it to y'all. I like it to y'all or else we will get hit with a seasoned assist but i liked when britney came in so we're playing with my what with my matches it's like playing with matches no matches yeah exactly because we're so horny
Starting point is 00:56:19 or something i feel like that's what most songs are about like that i like this especially after after the year that britney has had i'm like she deserves a win uh she does if she if britney's happy uh with the track then i'm happy with the track yeah i okay now i'm not saying i don't like this but what would have been nice was something that fully leaned into like that early aughts late 90s sound like that would have probably fucked everybody up like you don't like yo i don't like it's not great but it sounds like when we were 16 or 14 or however old anyone was back then but like i feel like but either way this seems like very up to date you know it's got that club drop that everybody was. Backstreet Boys having a drop alone is just so unfamiliar, so foreign. Their vocals sounded a little wet. They sounded a little older.
Starting point is 00:57:11 They didn't sound like boys anymore. I'm sensing some computerized vocals heavy on everything. You think so? Let me just try this again. No, that's not. No, no, no. That's nature. That's nature nature that's called practice baby that's i think
Starting point is 00:57:30 britney is doing the backstreet boys a huge favor here because it's like britney's sound has she's like still a contemporary artist she her like sound and image has like evolved over the years whereas the backstreet boys are still very firmly in 2000. But like, Britney, yeah, I think that was a good community service thing that Britney did for the boys. They needed it. Who do you think called who? Oh, there's no, I mean, actually, unless Britney was like, you know what, I'm feeling, you know, nostalgic for the old days.
Starting point is 00:58:00 But it's like, it's very clear who's doing who the favor here. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I don't know. I saw the Backstreet Boys. There's a telephone that pop stars just pick up and they all are connected to, right? The collab line?
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah, like the Powerpuff Girls, basically. Who wants to collab? I saw the Backstreet Boys in Vegas last year, the brag, and they're getting a little crusty and they're getting a little crusty. They're getting a little crusty. Oh, wow. They're getting... Listen, did I cry?
Starting point is 00:58:33 Did I buy merch? Yes, of course I cried and I bought merch. Well, that's because some of their sweat got into your eye from their dance moves. Crusty sweat. But they're getting maybe a little crusty they're doing skits at their vegas show uh but oh is there skits they do skits they're like hey nick remember when we lived in florida in 1994 and yeah i remember that what was that guy's name well it's also in the pearl man oh my god about that. Where's the Lou Perlman movie? Anyways, I could go on about that for days.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But it's just like the Backstreet Boys all kind of walking around on stage, trying to avoid talking about the many crimes Nick Carter has committed over the years. Yeah, they couldn't even get Aaron Carter in there as a sub. It sucks. It's like, yeah, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't want these Carter guys. It's true. One thing I was looking at, it was interestingly enough, is the New York Times devoted a bit of page space to the trend, the pandemic trend of squirrel tables. What?
Starting point is 00:59:40 The squirrel table sort of stuff. No, I have not seen the squirrel table sort of stuff like no i have not seen the squirrel tables you haven't seen these kinds of memes or like not memes like but i felt like at the very beginning of lockdown i was definitely seeing these like videos and images of people creating like picnic benches for squirrels that they would put on trees or fences and like just be like oh my god look the squirrel's eating at this table i made and it's eating sunflower seeds and people just getting giddy by being like i made a cool restaurant for a squirrel um oh okay that's kind of cute this doesn't am i i'm really the only one that was tapped into the world i was like this does not ring any kind of bells for me you were what what's your algorithm i don't know
Starting point is 01:00:19 man i think it's like it's it's it like modulates between like European soccer, NBA weed, like hip hop beats and then like moments that will make you cry because you skipped therapy this week. But this one is the trend. So as they're saying, they really tried to dial like dial in where the origin of this trend was. They said the trend seemed to have started in March. Quote, when Rick Kalinowski, an unemployed plumber in Bryn Mawmar pennsylvania posted a series of pictures of a squirrel feeder in the facebook group all about squirrels in one widely shared picture a squirrel sits at the table attached to a fence and grasps peanuts in its little hands um now just a quick history about squirrels which i didn't know i just thought they were things we have lived with a long time. Apparently, we got very close to eradicating squirrels from cities because people were just like, oh, these are crop pests.
Starting point is 01:01:10 They're game. They're not for fucking hopping around our neighborhoods and things like that. But they had a nice rehabilitation in the mid-1800s in places like Philly and Boston. 1800s uh in places like philly and boston they began reintroducing squirrels to like the urban environments to quote beautify and enliven the urban landscape at a time when american cities were growing in geographic extent uh population density and cultural diversity and then once the urban park came along it was frederick law olmsted bestowed upon us sure yeah i mean we all know i mean we all have the tattoo um yeah world is basically once like we have more parks they really began finding their place in like trees and in suburbs and in cities so now cut to like us living vicariously through
Starting point is 01:01:59 these tiny animals this sounds like something that my aunt would post to Facebook and be like, now this is true bipartisanship. There are some things we can all agree on, and it's that a squirrel on a table makes me laugh. And look at him eating today. My best customer, Thelonious Chipmunk, which I think is a name of a famous squirrel. This is much kinder to the squirrel than some of the youtube squirrel
Starting point is 01:02:28 clicks i've gone after which are people who are unhappy with squirrels taking their bird their bird seed oh yeah no this is a yeah and there are some true hilarious depending on you know mean um obstacle course aficionados that have like really taken it to squirrels because as anyone from the midwest like myself knows they will get that bird seed right no matter what they will find a way they will get the bird seed well going going off this i want to make a quick uh youtube recommendation there's a channel I learned about recently called James Blackwood the Raccoon Whisperer. He's a guy that lives in Nova Scotia and it's just
Starting point is 01:03:11 truly thousands of videos of him feeding raccoons peanut butter sandwiches every single night. The raccoons are gigantic and they love him and he has them on the schedule. If you want to see a retiree feed like 30 raccoons isn't this how grizzly man died there's a channel it's so it's the raccoons are
Starting point is 01:03:35 so because they have fingers and hands and it's cute and oh so that's yeah There's a whole, he has 400,000 subscribers. Is Werner Herzog going to narrate that too? It's like with the raccoon man. He came to their hunger ultimately. He uploads twice a day. It's just like, and all the videos are called like, Mobbed by Raccoons, Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020. Twice a day.
Starting point is 01:04:03 This guy is a content machine he really is yeah we think we release a lot well he's going twice a day no days off with the raccoon content i will say this like people are i mean it's nice to see people product like be productive in their time off at least like they're being like i'm dedicating my time to at least feed some animals and like poisoning the raccoons or fucking squirrels and shit like that but i posted one of the pictures from this article people are making like full-on charcuterie boards for squirrels and that's where i'm like look i get it if it's a hobby and helps pass the time like i'm not gonna judge you but like i'm looking at that i'm like yo i'm too greedy with my food to ever put a platter out for an animal who won't give
Starting point is 01:04:45 a fuck about the presentation. Honestly, at that point, I feel like that's people doing it more for content than for the animals, which is annoying. They're like, oh, isn't this funny? And you're like, I guess whatever. You're no raccoon whisperer.
Starting point is 01:05:02 More like charcuterie. That has to be a fucking Instagram page, I'm sure. You're no raccoon whisperer. More like charcuterie. Ooh. That has to be a fucking Instagram page, I'm sure. It's like showing the best of people. I didn't want to step on Jamie's raccoon mention. Oh, sorry. Don't interrupt me when I'm talking about the raccoon whisperer.
Starting point is 01:05:21 But yeah, I mean, credit to all these people. I mean, look, just because we can't dine out doesn't mean we can't create that experience for our squirrel friends true uh and then one last thing i want to touch on because we were talking about reboots pissing people off um nbc like i can't i can't believe how many like they're gonna i think they're gonna reboot iCarly at this point. Everything is coming back around now. And apparently, Zorro is going to become a series. And I'm like, okay. But NBC, they're like, no, let's just not just do Zorro.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Let's do Zorro, but make it Lady Zorro with Sofia Vergara. And right now, NBC is developing this contemporary take on the classic character with like Robert Rodriguez and his, I believe his sister are working on like the script. Now I'm like, okay, whatever. That could be interesting. Okay. I was like, I'm on board so far. I'm like, but what's this show about?
Starting point is 01:06:19 What's this show about and they say co-written by brother and sister duo of robert and rebecca rodriguez uh and to be directed by rebecca zoro centers on sola dominguez an underground artist who fights for social justice as contemporary version of the mythical zoro her life is threatened by several criminal organizations after she exposes them to have quite literally social justice warrior in the description i have a feeling you're gonna draw the ire of shitty internet people like i'm like this show could be good but i love seeing that i'm like i can already see people like dude a literal social justice warrior come the fuck on yeah i almost feel like that is like that's a really frustrating way for the press release to frame it uh because they're just like i mean i do believe that that happens all the time where like press
Starting point is 01:07:05 releases will be formed in a way where they know they're kind of bathing the hateful part of the internet because that will get the show coverage um but that's a very vile thing to do because it's like who gets the abuse from that is like the not the press department it's the stars of the show and the people who are writing and creating it so that's shit i hope this show is good i mean it's it's i would it sounds like a show that i would absolutely watch i mean how do you what's how do you go i'll envision the the pilot of an underground artist i'm just trying to think of this just makes me so mad at all the unsuccessful pitches I've had in Los Angeles. Like this, this got put through unsuccessful artists, social or excuse me, successful, whatever it is. Underground artists. I think underground artists is a euphemism for not selling any of your work.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I just I wish I wish that there was like there needs to there like, such a void in Latinx representation on TV. But I do wish that it was, like, we could just give money to Latinx creators instead of making it, like, we have to algorithm and have it be a reboot. Like, that's so many additional things. Just make the Latinx Seinfeld. Like, why are you being like, why I got about something like i just let people make shows about nothing like give money to marginalized creators and let them make what they fucking want like that always works out better yeah if i was at nbc i'm like bring me the latinx seinfeld bring me the black seinfeld bring me the asian seinfeld like we'll get all these going like because that's really, I think, the most creative writing are coming out of
Starting point is 01:08:45 these small moments that are experienced by these groups and elevating them. Because we know the sitcom moments of white American culture, but it's like, this place contains multitudes, baby. It's all there. Just fund it and greenlight
Starting point is 01:09:02 it. But it's like, yeah, this is a lot of buzzy social justice just like fund it and green light it but it's like yeah this is a lot of this is a lot of um it buzzy like social justice warrior reboot old property famous filmmaker attached like there's there's so many algorithm things that play here yeah if you guys could uh reboot a movie right now or a show um what would you do? What do you want to see come back? Because it looks like, I mean, the chances are that it probably will be rebooted,
Starting point is 01:09:30 but is there anything specifically that y'all hold in your hearts that you're waiting for or would like to see come back? Boy, I honestly did. I was excited to hear Tiny Toons was coming back. That was the one. I was like, I like, like kids cartoon reboots work for me because it's like, oh, I would love to see
Starting point is 01:09:48 a less problematic version of that cartoon that I really liked. Right. Yeah. I wouldn't know about Orson Welles if it weren't for Tiny Toons, to be honest. Well, yes, that's true. What about you, Michael?
Starting point is 01:09:59 I think I'm always going to go with an original over a reboot. But just because I just feel like there are so many original, interesting stories that always get pushed off because, hey, the network's like, Zorro made us some money back in 1955. Right. Let's just change a couple Zorro things. But I don't know if I have a great answer for you on that. Yeah. No, I mean, I think that's fair because for the most part, I think I do get more excited for something new where I'm like, hey, I never heard of that. And it could be absolute shit, but at least it's not another season of name whatever fucking show.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Yeah, and I'm always like, you took a shot at something unique and different maybe it wasn't executed the right way but i'm like okay you created you yeah right right right yeah yeah the thing like reboot culture it's everything like reboot culture it pisses me off though because it's like at this point it was like we're rebooting like b and c tier content like what is the point in doing that how is that worth anyone's time or energy and like i feel like also the like success rate of reboots is so low like i just don't understand i don't understand it i mean wait usually people hate hate when read because they're either mad that it doesn't suck in the same ways or they're mad because they're like
Starting point is 01:11:24 i've seen this i'm bored of this you know is there is there a contractual like do they need to activate Zorro so then they keep the copyright or something like you know what I mean like like is it hidden in some time capsule and if they don't use it for 30
Starting point is 01:11:39 years it goes back to the originator like I'm always wondering like is there more some more sinister reason that they keep bringing it back up other than just right right interesting i mean i just can't wait for that small wonder reboot really on board oh you know what would actually be a good reboot is um the jim henson dinosaurs series i would like a dinosaurs reboot. Oh yeah, get DJ Daniel's dad back to work in the writer's room. And my uncle
Starting point is 01:12:10 was one of the first ADs on that show. And I remember I went to the set as a kid and I took a picture there and I brought that shit to school. I was like, I was there. I met not the mama motherfucker. Get off of me. That's cool. Yeah, I would want the baby who you gotta love to come back. Bring back that baby. Yeah. Well, I want the baby who you got to love to come back.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Bring back that baby. Yeah. Well, Bill Barr kind of looks like the baby. I want dinos and diapies in 2021. Absolutely. I think that's a great slogan. Great, great slogan. Yeah, the reboot's called Dinos and Diapies. Well, Michael, thanks so much for coming on, man.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Where can people find you and follow you and support you and, and, and hear more and see more of you. Uh, thank you. First of all, thank you for having me. And,
Starting point is 01:12:50 uh, this is my first one hour special on comedy central. You can go to michaelcosta.com Instagram and Twitter is Michael Costa. And, my dog just had his sixth birthday. We gave him an open face bacon sandwich. Am I trying to get you as a follower by pushing out a picture
Starting point is 01:13:07 of my dog's birthday sandwich? I am. That's what I'm trying to do. Can you describe the birthday? Just give us a little bit more. I think you got people at the doors, but how do we get them in? What kind of bread is it on? We accidentally bought gluten free bread and we didn't know how to eat it. I was like, let's cut
Starting point is 01:13:24 one piece in half put some bacon on it and then a candle so he actually has a gluten free I know you were being sarcastic Miles but I ran with your question so he has a gluten free piece of bread with some bacon on it and a candle but I blew out the candle I didn't have the dog blow out the candle
Starting point is 01:13:39 but you made it did but you made the wish on his behalf actually it's a great point shit we didn't made the wish on his behalf? Actually, that's a great point. Shit. We didn't do the wish. Well, just don't tell Walter. Good luck to your dog in that case. We granted him his wish, which was, I want an open-faced bacon sandwich right now.
Starting point is 01:13:57 And let's be fair. Dogs can't even wrap their head around the concept of a wish being granted. So it's wasted energy. And Michael, what's a tweet that you like is there an act of social media that you want to show oh you know what my friend my friend tim hanlon is a funny comedian and he tweeted this a few days ago but i think it's just great if 9-11 happened today half the country would say it was a hoax and it is it's so freaking funny and also totally unfunny and also true right yeah it's one of those ones that like you laugh and then you hurt inside like we watched the airplanes fly into the
Starting point is 01:14:35 building and yet there would still be people that would say you know i don't know dude i mean to be fair i think there were some people back then who almost were saying their first take was like, oh, no, dude. You're like, you can physically go there to see. You can breathe in the air. You had to. I mean, I'm not saying like I'm not down with some good 9-11 conspiracy discussions, but I believe those airplanes did go into the building. There you go. I mean, that's a hot take.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Jamie, where can people find you and follow you? And what's a tweet that you like? You can find me on Twitter. Jamie Loftus help Instagram. Jamie Christ superstar. A new episode of Lolita podcast is coming out or did come out this morning. If, if you want to hear something real,
Starting point is 01:15:21 real heavy and depressing that, that is the place to go. And I am going to shout out a tweet from Brody Gupta, who is so funny and great. At Brody Gupta. She tweeted this recently. It's a screenshot of some asshole messaging her saying, why are you verified? And she wrote, thanks for asking. I'm the baby from charlie bit
Starting point is 01:15:45 my finger she's like one of the she's so underrated on twitter she's so funny so go follow her nice uh let's see a tweet i like i really just like this one tweet because it i wasn't you know i'm trying to wean off the twitter but you know i'll go in and out. But this one's from Kirby at Death Studs. And they tweet, Santa isn't real? Okay, I literally saw him at the mall. And I agree. That's true. So what are you going to tell that person?
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