The Daily Zeitgeist - QAnon Doesn’t Hold Up? Christopher Robin = Tragic Not Magic 8.3.18

Episode Date: August 3, 2018

In episode 204, Miles and special guest host Billy Wayne Davis are joined by Starburns Audio CEO Jason Smith to discuss how Trump is under Russia's control and will never stand up for us, an update on... the culture wars and New York Times getting it wrong again, the Trump administration claiming the ACLU needs to be responsible for reconnecting children with their deported parents, the more aggressive attacks on the media from Trump, the real story of Christopher Robin, bloidwatch, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Put my volume up. Nick, did you hear that? Repping hard like gang. Zam, can you hack that? Trump, you playing yourself? Ooh, that was a nice 702-inspired AKA by at crisperbaby. Hex, I see you out there. So thank you for that. AKA, just straight shot to my heart.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Love the group 702. And I am thrilled to have as my guest co-host today one of the other faces on Mount Zeitmoor you would see in terms of one of our amazing guests. Please welcome the hilarious comedian, Billy Wayne Davis. Hey. Hey. I'm not going to rap. Okay, well then sing. Sing me something.
Starting point is 00:02:58 You guys didn't prep me for any of this. Well, that's how we do this. Right before we started, you guys were like, what's your AKA? And I was like, also known as. AKA also known as. Well, that's how we do this. Right before we started, she was like, what's your AKA? And I was like, also known as. AKA, also known as. Yes, that's right. William Wayne Davis. DJ AKA. Are you technically, are you legally Billy or are you William?
Starting point is 00:03:13 Oh, I'm not. I come from poor, so I'm just Billy. Oh, wow. So we couldn't afford the Willie. You couldn't afford the Willie. We were aware that you could do that. We didn't know that Billy was a nickname. That's just a beautiful name you just thought that wasn't it yeah okay they were right well in our third seat we are joined by a very special guest today we're sort of creating an unholy podcast alliance of sorts
Starting point is 00:03:36 with this episode i would love to welcome and it's my honor to welcome the ceo of starburns audio mr jason smith you know starburns the home of such amazing podcasts like Harmontown with Dan Harmon, Small Doses with Amanda Seals, Soft Spot with Julian McCullough, and Pen Pals with frequent guest Daniel Van Kirk. And hopefully one day we'll get Rory Scovel in. But yes, please welcome Jason Smith. How are you, man? I'm good. Thanks for having me. Oh, thanks for coming by. How are you feeling?
Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm good. You know, this is actually the first time I've actually done a podcast. Really? This time. I did like a Patreon version of a video game podcast once. Right. And then my former partner recorded me for a bunch of stuff, but we never actually released it. Wow. This is the first time most anybody's actually heard me speak or maybe even knows that I exist.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So this is a scoop for us. This is a scoop. You are hearing right now, this is the voice of Jason Starr. This is the voice of Starbirds Audio. How long have you been involved with podcasts? Almost five years now. And you've never been like, I'm going to talk. No. That's awesome. There have been some urges to do it, but then you sit down and you're working with Dan Harmon or you're working with the Sklars. I've never heard anything bad about him. Oh, never? Never.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Never. He actually is like one of the most genuinely nice human beings in the whole wide world. I have met, yes. I can attest to that. Yeah. But you listen to these people and you sit down and you're like, I'm never, ever going to be able to hit that level. I might as well just kind of like stay in the sidelines.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Did you ever have like a first inkling like, maybe I could do a podcast about this? What would it have been about? Oh, I still want to do one where it's not really for other people to hear, but it's so my wife and I can actually talk. So I want to do a podcast where we just sit down and we have a real fight in front of a real judge, not like Judge Mills Lane or Judge Judy, but like somebody that actually judges us and have a real fight together in the podcast form, because I think that we would actually sit down. We'd have to think about what we were saying.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Right, right. Really come with it. And we'd have to listen and we'd have to respond. And then I want to put it out there. So we can't just fight. Isn't that what couples therapy is? Is it specifically that? Then that's what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's what me and my – Oh, that's how you use the show. Not even the show. I think that's how we view like actual couples therapy. Oh, literal couples therapy. That's how we kind of use it. We're like, yo, we probably need to talk through this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Then that's what I want to do. I want to create that for me, but through this. But I like the drama of like a courtroom, like a procedural show. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what I love about podcasts is that you have to sit here and you have to kind of take everything in and you have to listen. Right. And we don't do a good job of that all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what I love about podcasts is that you have to sit here and you have to kind of take everything in and you have to listen. Right. And we don't do a good job of that all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah, yeah. And so I've always wanted to do that podcast. I also, my daughter was on MasterChef Junior as a kid. Mm-hmm. And so I want to do a cooking show with her. Oh, nice. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:21 All right. Well, before we get to know you a little bit more, Jason. You're tricking yourself into spending more time with your family. It really is. I like it. Well, I mean, I live that podcast life. I may not be on the air, but I'm behind the scenes all day. So if you guys want to hang out with me, you better hang out with me over the air.
Starting point is 00:06:35 We're going to work this in to make a little money, too. Let's do this. Exactly. I've got to monetize you guys. Come on. Yeah, here we go. So, yeah, before we get into the show, let's talk a little bit about what we're going to talk about so you guys know what's coming up. Today, we're just going to talk a little bit about, I think we go. So, yeah, before we get into the show, let's talk a little bit about what we're going to talk about. So you guys know what's coming up today. We're going to talk, you know, a little bit about how I think we already know this, how Trump isn't a leader, actually.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And it looks like he's relying on the intelligence community to protect us because he can't. A little bit of culture wars going on, you know, in the New York Times hired Sarah Jong for the op ed section. And the alt right came and said, she's racist, don't hire her. Also, talking about the administration also saying that it's now I guess the ACLU's job to reunite the families that they separated. Also, just kind of,
Starting point is 00:07:15 let's just check in a little bit with Trump world and how all the lies are going because they seem to be ramping up. Also, talking a little bit about the new, I guess, Christopher Robin movie that's coming out. We're going to look into what that man's life was really like. It wasn't just all honeypots. A grown adult man?
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah. It wasn't just living in a honey tree? Hold on to your hat, Billy. He probably wouldn't have sex with people. We'll see. We'll see. I mean, inject your own commentary. I bet he does.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I bet he ends up having one to have sex with. We'll see. We'll see. I mean, inject your own commentary. I bet he does. I bet he ends up wanting to have sex with things. Oh, poo. And yeah, and then also do a little Bloid watch because it was getting real for Mr. David Pecker. But before we do all that, Jason, what is something from your search history that is revealing about you as a person? Oh, I don't know about revealing. Revealing this week, I looked through
Starting point is 00:08:05 my search history and the only thing that I could see that wasn't related to podcasts was, what is the protocol for a Montreal strip club? What is protocol for a Montreal strip club? Okay, go on. Well, I was born and raised in Nevada. So it actually says a lot about me. I was born and raised in Reno, Nevada. I was born and raised around gambling, strip clubs, the casinos, the whole bit. So when we were up in JFL this last week, somebody invited me to a strip club. And I'm like, okay, well, this is weird because dollars are change here. Right. So you don't want to pelt people with coins.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I don't want to pelt people. I know the rules of the strip club in general, but I really just was confused. What does this mean? What do I do? How do I navigate the situation? You don't make a wish. Do not make a wish. They do not like this.
Starting point is 00:08:49 But yeah, and so, you know, I am not afraid or ashamed, or I don't think there's anything weird about going to a club like that. But what I think it really says about me, I like to be prepared. Even in a strip club situation. No faux pas. Yeah, I don't want to act out of school. I don't want to touch where I'm not supposed to touch. I want to be able to touch where I'm allowed to.
Starting point is 00:09:06 No more shame than is needed. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. And so what is protocol? Okay. So you have to tip the bouncer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So you tip the bouncer five, ten bucks. Wow. Okay. You don't have to tip the ladies dancing. What? No. You can if you want to, but you don't have to. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So basically giving the tip to the bouncer is the same thing. So you're giving them a little bit of money. And that trickles down to the dancer? Is it like a restaurant thing where they get a pot at the end? Yes. Okay. That's a fancy restaurant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And then the main thing is they all have the VIP room stuff. So they still push the VIP room. Got you. That's where the money's being made. And so it's basically the same thing. It's actually cheaper. And with the Canadian dollars where it's at, it's really a reasonable price. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And we're worried about Donald Trump tanking the economy. But yeah. But then the other weird thing that's different, at least in Montreal, and maybe hopefully not just at the strip club I'm at, so I'm not speaking out of turn, is you can touch. And that is bizarre. Oh, wow. Yeah. Anywhere that there's not clothing covering.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Right. I mean, anywhere. Wow. Yeah. Anywhere that there's not clothing covering. Right. I mean, anywhere. Wow. Yeah. Which is not necessarily what I'm very comfortable with. For, yeah, Americans, it's very much like, yo, touch them and get your arms broken. I know exactly where my hands go on the side of the chair. So that's what I've learned.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And then I also learned that they don't spray near as much perfume on themselves as American strippers. So it's very much just like you smell all the other people that have also. Right. So you smell a lot of black ice air freshener from the Uber ride over there. Exactly. Is that preferable? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:36 No, it's definitely just like a steady BO. Okay. There's a lot of dancing. I mean, you go up there and dance. That's a lot of work. Those pills are strong, But that means sweat. That means... That means, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 The hormones are coming out. You're sweating. Exactly. What's something that is overrated? The new Venom trailer. And in fact, Venom, I think, as a superhero in general, is very overrated. Yes, you're pointing at my Spider-Man tattoo. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm a big fan of Spider-Man. Uh-huh. Venom is, in my mind, the worst of his villains. Uh-huh. The rogues gallery. Right. And the new movies, I don't care. You just can't make that character interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Really? And I don't like the way he talks because he talks kind of like a puppet, like a puppet because there's no lips on him. Right. So I'm like, I am Venom. Right, right, right. And it makes me crazy. Every time I see it, my friends are like, oh, it looks good.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I'm like, it's not, and it won't be, and I don't want to get my hopes up for it. And if they figure out a way, maybe, but no. If you could direct it, how would you do it? I would get rid of the whole Eddie Brock stuff and go with the Flash Thompson stuff. So for a long time, Venom was connected to Flash. I don't know how nerdy to get, but Peter Parker's friend from high school. Yeah. After he was in the military, because he had gone paraplegic, and so they did a whole bunch.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Like, he became a good guy but kind of a mercenary. Great, great setup. It was just a lot more fun. It made sense. It's not, you know. Phantom's just a weird villain. Yeah. He's afraid of sounds and fire.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Like, he's the easiest villain to beat, really. You get a match for a cigarette lighter, and that guy's done. You're done. You don't have to deal with this guy. Just, like, light a cigarette up, play the Metallica around him. It's like, oh, snake. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah, he's one headbanger away from just disappearing down a drain. Right, right. He's just like, I'm going to go. What's something that's underrated? I thought about this a lot. Okay. Crocs. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Crocs are underrated. Talk that shit, Jason. All right. Whoa. So last year, I moved into the Starburns audio office. And we got it all set up. And you live there. And now I just live there forever.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So you moved into your family. I pretty much, you know, between Crocs and sleeves, I think both are very underrated. But what ended up happening is there's a joke. One of my coworkers of the company I was left got me a pair of Crocs. And I was like, ha, ha, ha, Crocs. Right. I put i put them on one day i just sitting in the office and slid them on without shoes with with or without socks with socks my feet are comfy yeah i can walk around i could take slip those suckers off when i need to yes put them back on oh oh my my feet are cradle i don't care what anybody says about it. Yeah. They are beautiful, beautiful things. And my feet have never loved me more.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah. It's the sensation of a croc. I remember the first time I wore them, my dad had them. And this was maybe 10 years ago. And like, this is when crocs first came out. They really had the worst rep. Like people were like, dude, really? Like those weird crocky things.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And then I put them on and walked and I couldn't believe. It was one of those moments where I had to feel like I had to keep up my hatred of it. But the truth was in front of me. The truth was on my feet. These things are comfortable as shit. And I don't know what to do. Yeah, that's exactly how it is around the office. I have a and they're gross to their ugly and camouflage. Oh, camo crocs, camo crocs. And there's like fur inside of there's no reason that these should exist. Wow. We have three people in the office now that rock the same Camo Crocs. And not because we knew about each other. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:50 We discovered each other together. Wow. We're all rocking Camo Crocs together. Like it's a thing. Some guy who was over, you know, they have like one of those car wash services that's like, you know, online. So he just shows up at the office. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 He's rocking the same Camo Crocs. He's like, yeah, slipping out of the cars, it's easy. I was like, yes, yes. I'm going to preach that croc life. See, we need that croc sponsorship. Billy, what's your take on crocs? I mean, for anything that you're comfortable with, I tried that thing with boots a while ago because they look good,
Starting point is 00:14:19 and I was on boots, and then I wore them for like a month straight, and then I put tennis shoes on to go on a flight, and I was like, what am I doing? Yeah, right? Wait, croc boots? No, just like tennis. No, I was wearing boots because they look good. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Because you were always wearing boots. You wear boots with like pants and stuff. People were like, this is like a person that cares about himself. Right. It's like some illusion because I don't. And then one day I put tennis shoes on. I was like, well, if I truly care about myself, I would just wear these tennis shoes everywhere.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Like I'm wearing flip-flops right now because we're on a podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not just because you don't care about yourself. Yeah, and I just haven't moved to Crocs yet because I know myself enough to be like, oh, I'm not coming back. It's like why I haven't flown private ever. It's like because I can't own a private jet, so I don't want to know. Well, the Crocs are a little more attainable.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You know? I know, but it's still that, it's a threshold. You'll be like the venom of Crocs where it just starts taking over your body. He was like, someone gave him Crocs. He was like, no, this is bullshit. And then he put them on and he's like, this is my life now. My daughter and I fight over my Crocs. She's 14 and
Starting point is 00:15:24 she's got huge feet. They know comfort. They know comfort. She doesn't care. She's like I fight over my Crocs. She's 14 and she's got huge feet. They know comfort. They know comfort. She doesn't care. She's like, those are my Crocs. Oh, I mean, she's fighting like, let me wear your Crocs, Dad. Oh, wow. Not like, Dad, get rid of the Crocs when you're taking me to school. It's the exact opposite. It's like, I want those Crocs. Wow. Alright, well, Crocs, holler at us and Jason.
Starting point is 00:15:39 We've got some good testimonials here. And finally, what's a myth that people just get wrong about what's going on in the world that you know that they're getting wrong, that you know a deeper truth? Kind of just let off with, like, Trump's, like, doing all right. I thought about this one a lot, too. Okay. Everybody who plays those slot machines, I thought I'd bring some Reno back in here.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Okay. That's all an illusion. You're not playing anything. Those slot machines are bullshit. Basically, the way a slot machine works is all those spins have already been spun. You're just pushing a button to get reveal and answer. Like there's a big sheet of all that stuff sitting in a back office somewhere because they have to report all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Right. And so like all those mega millions and stuff. So when you push the button, all that spinning is just, it's prescriptive. It's glitter. Oh, it's just all glitter. They know they, they don't not only know it before you've spun or put the quarter in. They've known it for months before that thing even went out into the world. So there's no such thing as a hot streak.
Starting point is 00:16:32 There's no such thing as any of that stuff. It's all imaginary. You basically are just paying somebody. And instead of it just going win, lose, you're just paying for the pattern tree. Yeah, exactly. Wait, but don't people, so what happens when people win? That's just because
Starting point is 00:16:46 it's pre-scripted, basically? Yeah. So if anything, those people were just lucky that enough people spun it to get to the point where it actually paid out. It's like a line of people
Starting point is 00:16:54 walking by for a long time and then just one dude finally goes, you. Right. It's exactly it. Like just being the millionth customer
Starting point is 00:17:02 without knowing where you are in that queue. Here's a bunch of money. Yeah, it doesn't matter how much change you put in. It doesn't matter how many times you spend. There's no warm up or close. That's why like the ones on the end are always the most. They hit the most.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It's because they're used the most. Gotcha. Yeah. So yeah, it's just one of those things. Just know those slot machines have been preordained because they know that because people cheat and like will try and break the machine. And so they can actually look back and go, nope, this wasn't supposed to hit for 82 more spins. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Well, that's why I play blackjack. That's right. Because that's right in front of me and I can use a little bit of skill. The penny slots are fun if you just like to sit there. I like to people watch in the penny slots. Right. You get like $100 and you – Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:40 $100 worth of penny slots you'd play? Yeah, you can win money. If you win like $50 real quick and then you just pull it out and then you can play $50 worth of penny slots you'd play? Yeah, you can win money. If you win $50 real quick and then you just pull it out and then you can play $50 worth of... Well, and you can get... I mean, the person making the drinks is making them just as strong on the penny slots as they are on the $10 slots.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Exactly, right, right. Like the whale tables for... Yeah, perfect. I'm pretty stoned a lot of times in casinos, so I'm just like, what's happening? Right, you're like, I need to sit down and I'll just press this button for a little bit because I can't count to 21.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And then I can go win money playing blackjack. There you go. That's how you win money. Exactly. Single deck? You can. Do you like single deck? If it's just you and the dealer, you can win a lot of money pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah. Yeah. If you find the right dealer and you get on the right streak, that's something. I do not know how to count cards. I swear. Oh, man. No. Don't tell them. It's not know how to count cards, I swear. Oh, man. Yeah, no. Don't tell them.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's not technically illegal either. They just, quote, unquote, frown upon it. We frown upon you beating us. And welcome to Gamble Talk with your host, Gambler. So let's get into what you're talking about. That's exactly what my friend Dylan used to call me when I used to bet too big. Gambler? Yeah, because all we're trying to do is get to the bar, and he's like, listen, gambler.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Time to stop. Yeah, from that famous Simpsons episode where it took over Marge's brain. So let's get into the show, or I guess news, whatever's going on. So Trump, ah, man. So obviously we all know that Russia had it out for the United States in the 2016 election, and by Putin's own admission, he wanted Donald Trump to win. So yesterday during the, or right before the daily briefing, there was a parade of cabinet officials came out to sort of show a united front
Starting point is 00:19:12 against the threat of Russian election meddling and cyber warfare, kind of. Because John Bolton started off by just kind of saying a bunch of bullshit about like, you know, Trump is the toughest president who's ever been tough to a Russian ever. And then he sat his sad Muppet ass down. And then we had people like Kirsten Nielsen, FBI Director Chris Wray, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, General Paul Nakasone, who is the head of Cyber Command. They all basically had the same message, which is sort of like Russia fucked with us, is fucking with us and will continue to fuck with us. And we will probably do something about it. Now, each person had a little bit of a different take.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like, I mean, Paul Nakasone was pretty straightforward. He's like, this is not going to fly. And we're like, you know, we have a directive to address this. you know, we have a directive to address this. Now, I don't know if that means that the president himself has said, hey, you can take the break off and now you can use everything at your disposal in your cyber arsenal to counter this and launch an offensive attack. I feel like that didn't happen. Yeah. Who knows? I mean, I don't know. But it's very clear that they were also showing sort of themselves to be like, look, we're in a tough spot where we know what's going on. We're trying to help, but we can only do so much without the fucking commander-in-chief actually telling us you know it's time to act uh and it's just
Starting point is 00:20:29 really unsettling to see that all these people who are like the spy chiefs and people whose business it is to know what's going on in the world saying like hey man something uh bad is going to happen and we don't have the commander-in-chief leading us i mean objectively if we're looking at this objectively and not with a, you know, this is our team biased, pretty strong move from Mr. Putin to bring our commander-in-chief out and parade him out and be like, hey, I have control of this dude, so anything you guys try to do, I'm going to see because he's going to tell me.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So it was like he was like when everybody was reacting in Helsinki or whatever, I was like, no, this is he's saying a lot more than he's saying here, you guys. Yeah. Because like, what do we do? Right. Because, yeah, he was sort of like, yeah, I wanted him to win. Look at him right there. We just talked for two hours and nobody know what we talked about.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Except for a translator who, you know, I'm good at poisoning people. That's my thing. So I'm just saying. Well, we'll see what happens. So what you're saying is he's basically denying the reality. Like these guys are all saying, hey, this is real. This is real. And they're just basically saying, but we can't do anything until the president actually acknowledges it's real?
Starting point is 00:21:41 They're saying that they can, but what they're saying is like, of course, we formed a task force. We're going to do what we can. But you need – I think what they're saying is they're saying, listen, we can try some stuff, but it does have to go through this dingbat, and we don't know if he's telling them what we're about to do, and it's going to be ineffective completely. Like an idiot coffee filter where all the stuff just gets stuck right there. Right. Exactly. It's like the end of the cigarette that's just collecting all the tar yeah all that tar is like the and then it tweets
Starting point is 00:22:08 yeah right 100 oh my goodness i mean could you just imagine like after 9-11 like if george bush just like stayed in the cut and then you have like cabinet officials being like hey man america is gonna be all right it's like hold on where the fuck's the president like where's the fucking leader well daddy bush has always been the only one since, like, every ex-president always has the option to get the security stuff every day. And the only ex-president to ever want it was Daddy Bush. Well, yeah, you know, he's from the CIA.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, I think, yeah, it's like him checking the paper every morning. Like, see what's going on in the world today. You just can't quit that intelligence life. But I think that says a lot about who he is. And then I'm sure his son is like, I don't want that anymore. He's like, I want to buy a huge aquifer in Mexico and paint my pictures. No, I was a puppet. I kept saying that.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Do you think this will affect the ending to Creed II? I hope so. Because I really hate for politics to play out in my... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's my rocking movies. We'll see what happens. I mean, Ivan Drago's kid
Starting point is 00:23:11 looks pretty tough. Yeah, right? He looks really tough in that trailer. And at the end, it just goes, nope, Ivan Drago and just grabs poor Creed.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yeah. Nope, he's with me now. No, he's with me. Sorry. There's a writer's room just watching all this with like a total different look at it
Starting point is 00:23:24 than everyone else. Like, this is a total different look at it than everyone else. Like, this is a nightmare. You're telling us. Or like Ivan Drago somehow just works a deal out with Creed to take a fall in the sixth round. Like, all right, that's a good man. Good boy. So moving on to the culture wars, the New York Times is showing everybody how cool of a publication they are. So they hired Sarah Jong to write some op-eds and stuff for them
Starting point is 00:23:47 and join that editorial board. But the problem here is that she made jokes about white people on Twitter a while back. So the alt-right and the conservatives are coming out full force and being like, she's racist! And the problem here isn't that the new york times fired her it's that they acknowledged their cries of racism as if they were valid in any fucking way and put out a statement about like yeah you know there's bigotry like on all sides and and we got to do something and you know she'll never say anything like that again okay yeah well look i mean here's the deal they
Starting point is 00:24:22 have to be victims in order to sort of really get their outrage machine going. And, you know, like this whole idea of when people of color like talk about white people, you know, that's a way of talking about the power structures that already exist that we're pushing back against. It's not the same as saying like, oh, like these black people deserve to get killed by the police or whatever. That's very different. So, again, there's this whole thing where we see constantly that the right sort of weaponizes this faux outrage to try and get concessions from people who are actually objectively not doing anything wrong. But, you know, but they also have problematic characters on their editorial board, like Barry Weiss, who's just so out there. I mean, read any number of her opinions, and they are from planet fucking unbelievable. But yeah, I think this is just a growing trend. So this week, this was the latest scalp, I think, that right-wing Twitter tried to claim in the sort of like, I can't believe they said that.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And like, they are actually the racists for calling out racism. It is a weird, to me what it boils down to is like a power thing where there is the the and i've you know you you can see it in every aspect of life small town life to you know this bullshit but it's like that some people know how to handle power they understand like oh i'm in power now some people are going to say some shit at me because of that that's part of the responsibility. Right. And some people don't know how to react back to it.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Right. And as white people, we are the majority. So people get to say shit to us. That's part of like, you know, not like being able to go to the cops and ask for directions. Right. That kind of shit. Or be like, I think this person at my pool has socks on. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Can you come get on yes that kind of shit yeah it's like that's like a trade-off where there is like that's how the world actually works and if you want to acknowledge like that yeah but you're you're in that minority of people who are at least aware of how sort of structurally i'm coming to understand that i am part of a minority of that majority yes i am coming to understand that, yes. It's just, this is like the most frustrating thing for me right now. Especially when it comes to comedy and all this stuff. You can't equate two things together like this.
Starting point is 00:26:34 You can't say that actually saying white lives matter and all that bullshit is the same as somebody making a fucking joke over here. Yeah, who said, I can't watch Breaking Bad because it's a show about white people whining. That's like a thing they cut out. And we're like, who would see? I understand. Yeah. It's incredibly silly.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And I don't know how to, like, I can't even look at it anymore. The stuff that they're trying to do to Michael Ian Black, you know, the stuff that, did you see any of the stuff that went on at JFL with? What's that YouTuber character called? Southern Mama. Southern Mama, yeah, jfl with uh what's the care with that youtuber character called um southern mama southern mama yeah yeah yeah it's original premise too yeah super original stolen from dot fon stolen from you know right and uh but he gets up there and he just dies right it was the worst set it was a diarrhea themed set being kind yeah to what happened yeah
Starting point is 00:27:22 it was bad but to end it off and just go oh you know comedy is a place for laughing and that's being kind yeah to what happened yeah it was bad but to end it off and just go oh you know comedy is a place for laughing and that's what i brought you it's not a place for to talk about race or sexuality right and then kind of walk off stage and then called dulce precious and right are you fucking kidding me yeah right now that's it's just dumb insulated i mean i do a bit and i just did it across the South where people ask me, like, what's the worst part of the South? And I'm like, Alabama before they finish that question. Without a doubt, they're used to
Starting point is 00:27:52 like, what about Mississippi? I'm like, well, it's not Mississippi's fault. The education system there is really bad. They don't know any better. I did that in Mississippi and I got applause. They're like, he's done the research. And then I did that in birmingham i was like alabama they know better they just don't give a shit i did that in birmingham and got applause
Starting point is 00:28:11 which is not what you're going for at all i was like i was trying to shame you guys right you're like that's us yeah we don't give a shit but it is that kind of that's what you're yeah well it's what's this thing this this assumption that you can equate two things like he has any right to decide what comedy needs to be about. Right. Especially after all these people came out and killed it, talking about race, talking about things, you know, sexuality, race, race and sexuality. And then some white guy over here deciding what's funny. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Some YouTuber that's not even a stand-up. Yeah, yeah. And it's the same thing on Twitter. All this stuff is, you know, this group of people trying to equate two things that have nothing to do with each other, that have no business deciding what's right, what's wrong. Well, and part of that, too, is that thing of when anybody doing quote unquote art and they're critiqued and their response is always like, well, I made this much money and I sold this many tickets. That's not what we're – that's not the critique. We're critiquing the bullshit you're doing or the stolen part or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:29:09 And they're like, $150,000 last weekend. You're like, okay, that's fair but this is not what we're talking about here. That whole thing with the fastest growing comedian in history. What does that mean? I don't fucking know what that means. Who is that? Same guy. Oh, I'm the fastest growing... In American history. In in history. What does that mean? I don't fucking know what that means. Who is that? That's the same guy.
Starting point is 00:29:25 That's what he was. Oh, I'm the fastest growing. Okay. In American history. In American history. Cool. Which I mean, sure, maybe. I don't know how you equate any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And I don't know that you could measure it back in the day. Yeah, right. But then you start looking at- Mark Twain, I don't know. He rose pretty quick. Pretty quick. As fast as you could considering how long it took books to get from place to place And that horse he was riding
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, exactly But when you start talking about this lady making problematic jokes She made jokes Right This is why Twitter has to go away Twitter has to go away Or we all have to just make like a pack, like a written pack Like we will not charge anybody for the bad jokes they made 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:30:07 We all swing, right? As people, as human beings and as comedians, as professionals, we all take big swings and they're not always going to hit. And that's the whole point, right? Yes. If I had to hold myself accountable for everything I've ever said as a joke to somebody that didn't hit versus what did, I couldn't leave my house. Right. Someone shot you in the head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah, if that was like – if you held people accountable for jokes, like you held them accountable for truly terrible things that we don't hold people accountable for. Right, right. Like destroying people's lives financially. Right. That's a thing that happens every day. And it's – I think a lot – some of it may be a symptom of misplaced anger because we
Starting point is 00:30:46 don't have those avenues right now to be like oh of course change this right yeah and now we're like well these comedians
Starting point is 00:30:52 and we apologize a lot comedians because we just want people to be happy so when people are like hey
Starting point is 00:30:59 you said this like after a show usually you're like well it's you misunderstood what I was saying I'm not going to apologize for what I'm saying I'm going to apologize for like, well, it's you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not going to apologize for what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I'm going to apologize for hurting your feelings because it's not what I intended. Yeah. And people don't get that. And that's that's exactly fair. And but that's the thing. Like what you're saying is a joke. Yeah. There may be some rings of truth in there and there may be some parts of that.
Starting point is 00:31:24 But people like this alt-right kind of group, you know, what they're saying is what they believe. Yeah. You know, and that's that's the thing. can't, you can't equate those two things. And unfortunately, because it just lives on Twitter, all of a sudden, everybody who's ever made a fucking joke is automatically that person, as opposed to this person that clearly states like, I hate white people. Right, right, right. And they're like, oh no, these are the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:41 That's, that's the problem. And, and, and, and until we can either just go, okay, let's erase all this stuff or take a step away from it. We're going to end up fighting these dumb battles where people try to compare two things like they're the same. Yeah. That are totally incomparable. And I think that's part of, I think the feeling on the right too, is that they're seeing that like liberal or progressive thought is sort of like the preempt, like people just sort of gravitate towards that. And when those people have such sort of scathing critiques of how ignorant their opinions are, their only way to like,
Starting point is 00:32:10 to fight back is sort of be like, well, how do I take this person down by any means necessary? Even if that's through some kind of, you know, just really weak argument. Well, there,
Starting point is 00:32:19 if you examine the far left or the far right, they're very similar in what they want fundamentally which is just people to do what the one want them to do without any you know pushback at all that's right either one like you can't say this or you can't say this like saying i'm still to the point i grew up in the in a small town in the south where i heard all kinds of growing up right a lot of it confused me because it was just white people so i was like i don't understand where the hatred's coming from it's just the other white people so right it still confuses me but i still come from the point where everyone should be able to say whatever they want whenever they want that's fine it's when they start legislating or when they start encroaching on your ability
Starting point is 00:33:08 to have your rights that's when it's a problem right if it's like i that's where even the left i and i get in trouble because of my accent because and i'm like hey to the left like yo just chill on saying what people can and can't let them say whatever that's fine you can you need to let them say whatever when you're telling anyone they can't say something that's when they're gonna be like well now i need to do something right that's where the argument i think right now is we need to pull that back and be like let them say whatever the fuck they want to say right it's fine so i guess in in that sense if people have the platform to sort of get more and more people on board or to obscure discussions about race or things like that, do you feel that there's no danger to that? No, there's always a danger, but there's a danger to being alive. And that's a point that both sides are.
Starting point is 00:34:04 addressing is that one side is like everything's dangerous and the other side is like everything needs to be safe where it needs to be somewhere in the middle because that's what the balance and there's no balance right now right to the left just extremes just two extremes going like and then there's a lot of people and there's a ton of people in the middle going like both sides need to chill and we're not being heard in the middle right because as soon as we say something like well you're a moderate You don't believe this and this. You're like, no, no, no. All of us can exist. Right.
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Starting point is 00:38:48 So let's just get right into all of this more news. So yesterday, the Trump administration laid out an argument basically in front of a federal judge saying that the government shouldn't be responsible for finding the over 400 parents that were separated from their children at the border and who are deported and are no longer in the United States.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So they're saying, oh, you know who should be actually responsible is the ACLU because they're suing us and on behalf of these parents. So they are the ones, it should be on them to fucking find these people that we deported
Starting point is 00:39:20 even though we misled them to say like, hey, if we deport you, we can get you back with your kids and you if we deport you like we can just you know we can get you back with your kids and you'll be all good i mean i've always said if i could just shed all these morals being a billionaire would be so easy oh yeah it'd just be such an easy rise to the like to the top you just don't care about other people you couldn't make money just putting people in cages and this is the same argument that my daughter uses with anything around the house like she will destroy a bunch of stuff and they go well it's not mine that's not my my job you clean it up your job is to take care of the firm after she's like littered
Starting point is 00:39:54 it with bullshit like right he's just using these things like i've made the biggest mess and i've separated these families you know yeah they're not my And also, oh, if you're so worried about it, why don't you do something about it? You elected me, idiot. And I did kind of. Yeah. Damn it. But again, it's just them. They're really just, again, trying to absolve themselves of any responsibility for this shameful, horrific fucking policy,
Starting point is 00:40:17 despite them having all the fucking resources to actually put these people back together. I think some commentator was like, well, they, you know, they can probably raise money through GoFundMe. They can raise probably a bunch of do some fundraisers. It was a GoFundMe. The government was set up as a GoFundMe. The OG government was like, let's put in money to like help each other just in case.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Why it's the fastest growing government in history. In history. Yeah. And GoFundMe. And yeah, like a DHS secretary Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, she was saying, you know, like all the time that all the parents, they had the option to be deported with their children.
Starting point is 00:40:55 But there have also been administration officials who also said that like around 75% of parents that were deported by themselves, they didn't leave any record that they actually consented to leave their kids behind so this is just all part of the awful awful shit that's happening but also contributes to more chaos in this administration and you know it's just it's unbelievable how many fires we try to put out simultaneously and then we're immediately
Starting point is 00:41:22 distracted by a new understanding that this is like one of the shittiest things I've ever heard in my life. How do we help? Yeah, the options are to help honestly give our money to help the groups that are trying to legally fight this and put families back together. But honestly, the biggest thing is focusing on like what it means to have these people in power on the right or the left, whoever it is. But mostly if we're looking right now. I think a lot of it is identifying who is doing this, where the money goes, and making it very clear who these people are. And that's what these people do more than what they do best,
Starting point is 00:41:56 is they camouflage who they are and what they're actually up to. It's all these vague companies or this stuff out of here, geopolitical, blah, blah, blah, and it's like these vague companies or this stuff out of here geopolitical blah blah blah and it's like america first kind of stuff right and then you look at it you're like this is pure they are looking at numbers and you do this you get this and you get this many people you see these stories and like these fox news like citadel group or whatever and you see like oh this private prison is going to shut down if they don't get more heads. Yeah. I don't give a fuck. Well, and they put it like the town is going to go under.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Right, right. So these people vote the wrong way. Right. Because they don't understand. And it's not their fault because, and I say it's not their fault, but it is and it's not because it's like, look, we have to make money. Right. And this is the only money that comes.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Well, and they're stuck because the infrastructure has been built around that thing. Like they voted for long enough. So 20 years in, they're too deep to pull it all away. They can't move. Why don't you move? To where and do what? They can't sell their land for nothing. And I think if you look in this instance specifically, too, I mean, now that we're realizing that detaining immigrants has now become a billion dollar industry right so that's really you know it's the private prison companies that are really the people
Starting point is 00:43:09 who are fully reaping the benefits of this that's why they stalled on marijuana oh he's legalizing marijuana like well we need another other way to get all these people into this system. Yeah, what can we suddenly just deem illegal? Oh, shit. Okay, this. Well, it looks like, again, things are just getting, I don't know, with Trump especially, he's becoming more and more unhinged. And I think we've seen a shift, especially after that Helsinki shit,
Starting point is 00:43:39 where it's only gotten more blatant, where a few weeks ago he was just begging people to ignore reality quite literally. He's like, like nah and everything you're seeing that's that's not happening like that's pretty that's an interesting tactic yeah like it seems like even more that the sort of misinformation uh you know deception campaign is also ramping up to keep all of his supporters in this sort of state of blissful ignorance and i mean when you look at the reality of the situation he's out here calling the press the enemy of the people.
Starting point is 00:44:07 But the reality is they're doing their fucking job and merely informing the public. They're not lying. I mean, at times there are stories that perhaps are maybe inaccurate or whatever, but not with the same malicious intent that a lot of the coverage coming from the right is. So, you know, he calls them the enemy of the people and does all this shit. And, you know, so yesterday, Jim Acosta was really trying to get an answer out of Sarah Huckabee Sanders, because as many people point to that, whether it's the U.N. or historians are like saying that the press is the enemy of the people is textbook totalitarian leader tactics 101.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's just to delegitimize the press. That way there's only one form of truth, and that's whatever the leader tries to create. My mom did it. Oh, yeah? At our house, yeah. There was no outside press. Just what she said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:00 So what did you think rain was growing up? Whatever she said it was that day. I still have to call her. That's why I like living here. It rarely rains. It's like the water boy. Yeah. He's like, I am that electricity.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That fool's ball is the devil. So, yeah. So Jim Acosta really tried to at least give Sarah Huckabee Sanders the chance to walk back, you know, the president's claim that, you know, this is a very dangerous tactic to be employing. And just listen to this interaction from yesterday. For the sake of this room, the people who are in this room, this democracy, this country, all the people around the world are watching what you're saying, Sarah. And the White House for the United States of America, the president of the United States should not refer to us as the enemy of the people around the world are watching what you're saying, Sarah. And the White House for the United States of America, the president of the United States, should not refer to us as the enemy of the people. His own daughter acknowledges that. And all I'm asking you to do, Sarah, is to acknowledge that right now and right here.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I appreciate your passion. I share it. I've addressed this question. I've addressed my personal feelings. I'm here to speak on behalf of the president. He's made his comments clear i mean it just she sounds like a well-versed in therapy shitty partner breaking up with like in an argument right where it's like no you cheated on me i caught you in our bed and she's like i'm sorry you feel that way i hear you i hear what you're saying and i
Starting point is 00:46:23 can understand like if you think that's what happened. Share your anger. Yes. You're doing it right. You're having sex with him right now. No. He's test driving. I understand why that would make you feel that way but that's not what's happening. Yeah. Again, that's why I'm not sure why
Starting point is 00:46:39 we even need to cover these press briefings anymore because all that happens is that Sarah Huckabee Sanders goes up there, just lies and tries to splain away all the nasty, dumb shit the president says or does. And it's just a big gaslighting session. There's nothing really ever of value that truly comes out of those briefings aside from more controversy. It's just more like, well, the thing that came out is now she's trying to say that he didn't mean what there's never like, oh, wow, we found out some truth today from the briefing. Didn't she just say, I agree with you. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:47:10 But I don't it doesn't matter what I say. It's just what the president told me. And that is kind of what she's been saying for a long time. Yeah. Like, listen, you guys know what's happening here. And this sucks for everybody. OK, but this is what this what the president said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And understand, I am starting to understand how shitty this is. But my dad, you guys know who my dad is. Yeah. I grew up with this. And I don't understand how wrong it truly is. Right. And I can't. Even though he's a bass playing fool.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Have you seen him play bass? Yes. Mike Huckabee? Yes. I was thinking about that. Yeah. It's so weird. I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Well, it's church. He grew up in the church. Yeah. It makes me ashamed to be a bass player. So they love this sort of narrative of like the media is so mean to us and all this other shit. And the GOP like put a tweet out about how they have these quote unquote studies that quote unquote prove the media only covers the negative aspects of the administration or whatever. But these fucking things are hardly scientific. Like one of them just sort of added up all the times there was a mention of a Trump policy and whether it was positive or negative.
Starting point is 00:48:06 So if it was stuff like the trauma that is experienced by families that are separated or children that are separated gets a negative score. You guys talking shit about us again. And then they say like rather than coverage that could read that the trauma that illegal immigration causes Americans. read that the trauma that illegal immigration causes americans like so everything is just about flipping the script and just looking at just the shit in the total upside down it's fun it's just fun every day it's like when i can't wait to when people are like hey what was living during the trump times like i'm like remember 9-11 it was like four years of that day it's just like every it's like when you woke up and you're like, wait, what happened? Oh, my God, what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:48:48 Just four years of that every day. That's not good. I didn't know we could do that. You can't? Okay. Well, the same thing with the rallies, too. I'm not sure why we send, not we, but I don't understand why networks insist on sending these full teams to cover these rallies.
Starting point is 00:49:04 All they are is just Trump going up there, staying on script for like five minutes, but just inciting the crowds and shit like that. There's no money in solution. It's all conflict. And I don't even
Starting point is 00:49:19 think it's like that grand design thing that some people think it is. I think it's in the moment. These producers are like like what's the conflict in this moment that's what i have to produce in this package right and then it's just to get people to watch in this motherfucking second oh my god where's that adderall is the kid bringing it cool let's do this now we need this okay let's go here there'll be drama for sure yeah and that's what we're addicted to that they needed footage for the history channel documentaries right come out you know when they have to move away from the hitler stuff they're like we gotta have all
Starting point is 00:49:54 this footage if we don't have the b-roll what are we gonna i was thinking about like it is a that whole generation of of dads that have just been watching Hitler for fucking 20 years. And they're like, let's do it here. Let's do it here. I want to see it live. Our great-great-grandchildren will all be watching the same stuff. They'll just be like, just sitting there, just watching the old Trump tapes. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:50:16 So, I mean, even at these rallies, right, like his favorite move is to point back at the cameras and go, you see these people? They're the enemy and blah, blah, blah. And clearly, I mean, they love that shit. And Vince McMahon's like, I wrote this. Yeah, exactly. the cameras and go you see these people they're the enemy and blah blah blah and clearly i mean they love that shit uh and and vince mcmahon's like i wrote this yeah exactly he's like this is all me uh but yeah you saw even at uh wilkes-barre pennsylvania where he spoke last night there were more q anon conspiracy theorists out there who are the people who believe that you know this this
Starting point is 00:50:41 person q or this group of people Q who are anonymously leaving crumbs for all of these really desperate right wing conspiracy theorists to believe that all the Mueller probe is really about him and Trump taking down Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Oh, my God. What a fucking. It's Matt. What a stretch.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Matt and Troy wrote that. Yeah, exactly. So so yesterday at the at the rally, CNN sent a guy to go talk to them again. And like, you know, these people hook line and sink it there. They love this whole anti-media narrative. And just sort of we pulled a couple of clips from the some of the QAnon fans at the Trump rally yesterday. There hasn't been any non-evidence yet. A major mantra among QAnon followers. The press is the enemy you guys are so you don't believe in the first amendment i totally believe in the first you don't you just said the press
Starting point is 00:51:30 well you guys are weaponized you guys are totally weaponized by the cia you guys are by the cia i don't know anybody in the cia except a couple people i've interviewed over the years okay but weaponized what does that even mean that's fair like you say stuff that doesn't mean anything um the conspiracy theorist the term i Weaponized by the CIA. Conspiracy theorists. Do you think I'm weaponized by the CIA? Maybe not to your knowledge, and that's unfortunate. You believe there is a deep state. Yes. And what do you think that deep state's doing?
Starting point is 00:51:52 You think they're running this country? I think they were, and they're petrified now because they're losing their control. Donald Trump's the president. He's running the country, right? Yeah, but he's having to fight against the deep state. I mean, he said he could do it all himself himself everything would be so easy when he came into office and he you think he's fighting with the deep state a year and a half into his term i think he's been fighting since before he was elected and who is in this deep state who are the people in it oh i definitely
Starting point is 00:52:15 believe that like the clintons the bushes the obamas so you think the clintons the bushes and the obamas are running this country as we stand here in the rain. No, they're trying. I mean, she's not wrong. I just like that they get out of the house, right? Like, I'm sure that these people have not been outside for a while, so this is nice. Get some exercise. Those legs probably need a little stretch.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I mean, what's funny is like. Do you think she, yeah, in the middle of her, you could see her start to realize she hasn't talked to a lot of people in a while. You're right. In the middle of it, you could hear her being like, this sounds a little nutty. You think that they're running
Starting point is 00:52:55 the country right now? Another human being says that back to me. I can see why that sounds crazy. Versus me using my confirmation bias while looking at a screen and just reading text that goes yes, yes, yes, yes. Protect me from being a little more aware of how bad the situation
Starting point is 00:53:12 actually is. And also I feel like deep state is starting to seem analogous with waning white supremacy or influence where they're like, well now they're scared and they're fighting back. I'm like, isn't that you right now? Isn't that what's motivating you? Is this idea that there was this once power structure that you wish remained? That is a fun way to flip it on and be like, well, do you guys want to be in the deep state?
Starting point is 00:53:30 Well, I mean, yeah. Yeah, that would sound good. I would be in the Illuminati. What's the game or is there like a specific type of like psychological or game theory where you try and put the person in power to make them sound like they're the one that's the minority? Like these guys are, you know, Donald Trump is absolutely in power right now he's got all his people the republicans are controlling everything but what is the psychology of trying to convince people that they're still the minority like they're still fighting persecution yeah that's that it's a lot of how they get christians too is like they're being persecuted for their beliefs and
Starting point is 00:54:03 then people are like well it's fighters you know i'm coming from the state of Tennessee which is a volunteer state which always made me laugh because in seventh grade you learn Tennessee history you have to and that's when it hit me I was like oh we were mercenaries that's what that's what volunteer the balls are we were just like oh there's a fight cool, we're down Who said I don't care? I get to murder for free and I don't get punished and you guys are gonna pay me That's what we all live in this state, right? So it's just motivating those and that's what our whole country is full of those type of people right that got that Fuck you. Yeah. Yeah, So you just motivate them like that.
Starting point is 00:54:45 When the deep state finally goes, what comes next? What do we invent beyond the deep state? What's like the subatomic deep state? David Icke's got it where it's the reptilians. Yeah, exactly. Reptilian overlords, shapeshifters. I can get on board with that. I can too.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I'd rather that. If I'm being honest, there's like 2% of me that it's like, I don't know, maybe. There might be reptilians. There is. There's a point where we can all get on board. We can be like, all right, deep state done. Hey, can we all agree that we need to fuck up these reptilians, though?
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah, there are some alien motherfuckers running shit that look like us. Yeah. Yeah. But then it gets tricky when you have to identify them, and then it starts all over again. There's danger to everything. Yeah. And we have to admit that. Well, then the
Starting point is 00:55:25 other thing too again that trump like one of his other lies is really just lying about the economy and yesterday we talked about how it was a good transition into what we were talking about just then i just want to acknowledge we went from reptilians to you going into that that needs to be that's called a hard pivot how good that was pivoting in the paint you weren't gonna get so they the one of the things that he always Pivoting in the paint. You weren't going to get acknowledgement from him. So one of the things that he always has to tout is the economy and shit like that. And aside from, you know, the Washington Post has sort of been tracking the frequency of his false statements. So around the time, the first year, first seven months, he was doing about 4.9 false statements a day.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Right now he's at 7.6. So he says anything from like, you know, Kim Jong-un and I are on the same page, baby. So nuclear threat over, despite the fact that we know they are continuing to build missiles and they don't give a fuck or shit like, you know, him saying that the economy's never been stronger. I have incredible success in terms of job growth, even though annual job growth is under his presidency has actually been slower than the last five years of Barack Obama's term. So but it is working because especially when you look at the soybean farmers who, despite the fact that they are in terrible shape, they are still like really ready to fucking ride or die with this president.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I think this was CBS. They went to go talk to a group of soybean farmers just to really kind of get their temperatures like, yo, these tariffs are really fucking you up. Like, and you're like on the front lines of this trade war and you're cool with this despite your livelihood being at risk. So this is just a little bit of an exchange with some of these soybean farmers. Did you all vote for president Trump? I did. I did. I did. Yeah. And that has nothing to do with why I support what's going on right now. Do you support the administration, even though you're being hurt by these retaliatory tariffs? I do. I'm a good American. I believe that we all have to toe the line.
Starting point is 00:57:14 So you're okay with bearing the brunt of these tariffs? If I had my druthers, no. But am I willing to take my lumps for the benefit of the entire country? Yes, I personally am. You're willing to weather the storm for a certain amount of time, but how long is too long? Well, the Scottish in me says, to the death. Well, if you ask actual Scottish people that live in Scotland, they'd be like, yo, motherfucker, get your shit straight. Yeah, they're like, yo, don't fuck my rep up with this thinking.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Also, I can give you some insight into the language she was using was confusing in that they're going to keep saying, you say weather the storm to a bunch of farmers. That is hold your position. Right. They have to, once they invest in something, it is a lot longer investment than everybody that lives in the city or something like that that's getting their shit. So they are not being completely, I don't agree with most of what they're saying, but I understand how they're being manipulated in that they have to think that way. Oh, of course. They have to fucking bow in because the winter's coming and then we have to, God, I hope rain comes and this stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And this is how our livelihood, you have to be strong, yield, and somewhat stubborn. Right. And that's how they're thinking. Are soybeans as subsidized as corn? Yeah, without, I mean, not as, but it's the same shit. Yeah, where it's like it's all relative and some of these people are millionaires and they're not being clear about that either yeah because they're you got to lean into a little bit of that stuff too like they're literally just being paid by the government to make oh 100 burn their crop and also like when you look at you know trump has floated the idea of 12 billion dollars in subsidies to
Starting point is 00:58:58 help offset the just trauma of his dumb fucking trade war and most of they're not going to like what we picture when we think of like agrarian America, like, oh, like small family owned farms. These are like gigantic operations. Yeah, they're not. So some, a lot of, it's all obscured. It's like, yeah, I'll use the word farmer, but I'm talking about huge agribusiness companies that are really reaping the benefits of this.
Starting point is 00:59:20 It's more complicated than the media is going to make it because it doesn't fit in two minutes to explain, well, there's a back history to how this is being exploited, the subsidies and blah, blah, blah. And these aren't... This isn't American Gothic. These are two dickheads. Right. Who have a lot of money. And you're just like, yeah, we'll wait for that.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Wait for that check. They're going to tax our weed, though, right? No more taxes on our weed, though? They're going to tax our weed, though, right? Huh? No more taxes on our weed, though? They're going to have to. I mean, we're not exporting it yet. That's right. It's not internationally. Hit me up.
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Starting point is 01:04:09 to sort of sanitize the real life stories behind their movies so uh one of our writers jay mcnabb pointed out that there's a new uh the just new disney christopher robin movie that's coming out uh that's about the adult christopher robin who's now this middle-aged dude, and he's visited by Winnie the Pooh, who I guess is real now, not just a toy that he used to bring to us. Listen, if you do your life right, and if I'm doing mine right, about 45, 46, I'm going to be able to check out and just do any of the drugs I've always wanted to do. So, yeah. Yeah. Sounds like a guy living his dream. I've been on ayahuasca before. I've been visited by a series of do. So, yeah. Yeah. Sounds like a guy living his dream. I've been on Alaska before.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I've been visited by a series of bears. Oh, fantastic. Okay, so then this might be more of a documentary to you than anything. But, yeah, so, like, you know, the original books and movies, it was always sort of clear that the characters were toys but not these animations. And the whole point was sort of to celebrate the imagination, right? animations and the whole point was to celebrate the imagination right uh but this film is really kind of it takes a turn on how the real life christopher robin how his life was because he wasn't really saved by winnie the pooh he was like winnie the pooh kind of fucked his whole life up
Starting point is 01:05:17 uh like his dad a.a milney or milne as as you pronounce it used christopher robin's real name uh in the winnie the Pooh books. And by the time he went to school, he was bullied because of this shit, to the point that he literally had to take boxing classes to defend himself from all the people giving him shit. Boy named Sue situation. Like that whole Phantom Menace kid, right? Oh, Jake Lloyd? Jake Lloyd, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Another detail about Christopher Robin that probably didn't make it into this film because it's supposed to be a fun Disney film is that the real Christopher Robin, he married his first cousin, which caused a tremendous rift in his family to the point where she refused to see him while she was on her deathbed. And this is a really sort of dark story behind this man's journey. Who refused to see him? Yeah. His own mother. Oh, his mom. see yeah his own mother oh his mom yeah his own mother because she's like you married a cousin yeah wife's like nope we're cousins now yeah and no no sorry yeah that wasn't clear his own mother refused to see her while she was on her deathbed because she was so just disgusted by his marriage and like this whole real sort of
Starting point is 01:06:20 christopher robin journey wasn't so much about reuniting with poo. He like wanted to distance himself from it as much as possible. Like, you know, like he gave away his stuffed animals in 1940, like the real ones, like, like without regret, he was just like,
Starting point is 01:06:33 please take these fucking things from me, which I think now are on display at the New York public library. And he even like signed the rights away to his agent for like a thousand bucks. But that was in 1929. So that's, that's a decent check, but mentally ill. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Disney's weird like this. Like they did the same thing basically with the Mary Poppins stuff. Exactly. It was all, she hated working with Disney. And I don't know why Disney wants to rewrite everything. Like just everybody got along with Disney. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:02 It was like, no, it was great back in the twenties. We all had fun, but everybody hated. Right. No, it was great. Back in the 20s, we all had fun, but everybody hated. Yeah. When he was this racist, misogynistic fucking monster. The first time we went to Disneyland, my fiancee, who is a wonderful little Jewish woman,
Starting point is 01:07:16 we were walking through there, and she goes, I could see a Nazi design in this shit. All those hidden Mickeys? You know that's something. Yes. And everything has a place, and you see there's a little bit of fear behind everyone that works. There's eyes. Yeah. But it is impressive.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah, well, shout out to the crazy man Walt Disney. Well, I mean, the whole Winnie the Pooh thing, obviously, was just built to make people about my age cry, right? Like, I'm supposed to go there and like, oh, I miss my childhood. I lost my imagination. Yeah, it's so fleeting and it will right but at the same time like i i don't understand how they have to make it that way they could do a perfectly decent job of that without deciding to like rewrite this poor kid's right history yeah it's why do they is it they've got that's their their thing is like there's always a happy, there's no postmodern.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I think it's because they want to sequelize things like the whole thing with Mary Poppins, right? They, they're doing a sequel to Mary Poppins now and they kind of have to like get past the part where the, the, the writer refused to let them do anything until way after she died. So like, let's sanitize that story a little bit. So that sequel can come back and then no one remembers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Okay. Yeah. I mean, she, uh, evil and design. Yeah. PL Travers,
Starting point is 01:08:29 who was that author, she wasn't even invited to the premiere of Mary Poppins, but like in the film, like it's like, oh yeah, she was like, she, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:37 she's like in tears because like she, the, the Disney, the Disney magic had washed over her and she was so moved by what happened. But yeah, like, and I think her credit was also really small. So that whole story, too, is another, yeah, sanitizing of history.
Starting point is 01:08:52 But yeah, the reviews of this Christopher Robin movie are pretty bad. It's only like a 59 on Metacritic. But like, as JM points out, the strangest conceit of this Christopher Robin film is that Pooh, Tigger, Eeyore and everybody else aren't figments of his imagination. And if they're real, then, like, the whole story falls apart again because it makes Christopher Robin seem like a neglectful dick who, like, forgot about them in the first place and was like, oh, yeah, let me check on these guys real quick. There are some leaps I think you have to make. Of course. That weird hook vibe to it, right?
Starting point is 01:09:20 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Hey, come back, even though, you know, we'll see what happens. Well, and that's heroin, right? That's what. Yeah. Hey, come back, even though, you know, we'll see what happens. Well, and that's heroin, right? That's what heroin does. That's what the heroin is. In terms of? It's just always just like, hey, Amber, come on back.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Come on. Hey, remember me. That's what Hook's about. I think that's what Christopher Allen's about. It starts with an H, you know, because you're hooked. Just trying to pull it back into our daily zeitgeist. That's fine. My daughter's obsessed with the Demi Lovato stuff, so she sends me little tweets.
Starting point is 01:09:46 It's Disney heroines, and it has all the Disney princesses looking like they're on heroin, and at the very bottom has Demi Lovato. Oh, my. Wow. I mean, that's really funny. She's 14. Oh, that's perfect. Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:59 So that's exactly. Is it heroin she's on? Yeah. Ah, that's a tough one. It's a tough one. Yeah. Let's get into quickly into. People really's on? Yeah. Ah, that's a tough one. It's a tough one. Yeah. Let's get into quickly into- People really like it.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah. Let's get into Boyd Watch really quick. Oh, sorry. Go on. No, I was just going to say, that's one thing that's brought us all together. It's the red states, blue states, everybody's doing Oxy. Yes. Oh, it's the saddest.
Starting point is 01:10:18 I would do the show in Huntington, West Virginia. It's the saddest thing to where you're just like, you pull into the town and you're like, what the fuck? And they're like, yeah, dude, that's just how people are. They're like, yeah. But don't look, but you know, don't ask the government to like help anybody with this. That's what they also ACLU is for. Yeah, exactly. And DARE.
Starting point is 01:10:37 So DARE, get your shit together. Go fund me. Yeah, go fund me, please. Go fund me, America. Go help me. So let's do a little quick Bloid Watch. So, you know, the magazines, they were whatever this week, usual stuff about trying to act
Starting point is 01:10:49 like Prince Philip is dying or, you know, Queen Elizabeth fell over when really they just have a photo of her picking something up off the ground. But I want to draw attention to this story that was coming out about how David Pecker, who owns American Media Inc., who owns all these tabloids that always, you know, circle the wagons for Trump optically and in a publicity sense, they're starting to distance themselves a
Starting point is 01:11:09 little bit because they're realizing more and more how they are just entwined in all of his controversy, especially with a lot of this Karen McDougal stuff, Stormy Daniels situation. But it seems like, yeah, it's starting to hit them a little bit by dialing back the Trump material that the circulation numbers are also declining a little bit. I think one of the things, too, is that we see that because they were caught up in all this catch and kill controversy where they would buy the damaging stories and then just sit on them so they never got out. It's sort of important to point out how wide this sort of web goes. It's sort of important to point out how wide this sort of web goes. It's just sort of interesting because people noticed that the Wikipedia page of David Pecker was being scrubbed to sort of make his role in a lot of these controversies less and just be like, oh, yeah, and he's a friend of Donald Trump. Nothing about the National Enquirer or anything like that. And then so people started looking and they tracked it to IP addresses that led to William Morris Endeavor's offices here in L.A.
Starting point is 01:12:06 to IP addresses that led to William Morris Endeavor's offices here in LA. And WME is noteworthy because they're sort of like this connective node between Pecker and Trump. You know, the agency currently has AMI as a client and was also formerly representing the president. And as we all know, Ari Emanuel, who Ari Gold from Da Entourage is based off of, who, you know, his agency also, you know, often branded the king of Hollywood. He has a history with both men, and he also, like them, has leveraged his relationship with David Pecker to kill negative stories about either himself or his clients. And it's also interesting to point out that David Pecker is also a longtime financial supporter of Chicago's Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who is Ari's brother. And Rahm used to work for Obama. And Trump, too, is actually was a Rahm Emanuel campaign booster.
Starting point is 01:12:55 And I think he donated like $50,000 to his mayoral campaign in 2010 at Ari's request. Yes, that you went pretty. I mean, you got some Old Testament stuff back there and begot this and begot that. I agree with, I mean, the dude that owns the Enquirer and all those dudes, without a doubt, are not good people. But with all, like, this person gave this person money, it's like that's going to keep coming out where it's like. Oh, yeah, no, not to say that they're implicit. That's like a business decision at this point.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Like, if you're in, I'm not defending it, but I'm just saying to have a business it's going to come out like oh they gave money to everyone oh yeah no i'm not under any illusion that that there's so that gets murky is all i'm saying with that no not at all but it's it's interesting too because i'm pretty sure uh i think it was ari emmanuel who introduced like whoever was doing publicity for saudi arab uh the to AMI's David Pecker because there was like this bizarre advertisement free issue that was like the new kingdom uh with Mohammed bin Salman on it that was like totally just sort of trying to obscure what's really
Starting point is 01:13:57 happening in Saudi Arabia but again it's just sort of showing that there's this this connection of like media and everything that they all have they sort of rely on each other to control the optics of any given situation. Oh, I think, yeah. Well, like anything, it's just power. Once you get power, you're going to – it's not about money anymore. You realize that? We have to diversify, first of all. So you're going to have to hit up everything.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And then secondly, it really is just about money and power yeah yeah but what's odd i guess and too is you know trump is so quick to point out how other people have donated money and how that indicates some kind of allegiance or whatever when you could be like bruh you gave money to chuck schumer you gave money to hillary clinton yeah this other thing too i think that just sort of weakens that argument for him when he tries to say oh well the wife of this fbi person got money from like a known hillary donor after the fact equals this thing. It's just like poker. Like, and if you could just better your odds by giving more bets and more bets and more bets that you're going to make more money in the end and the less rules to where you
Starting point is 01:14:57 can give all that money or you can put a bet here and put a bet in this name. Yeah. That's what all this is that's gonna come out is like oh all these companies just don't care as long as they have some say in who's saying it and that's and preserve their power yeah right as long as the lobby gets what they need yes it doesn't matter who's in charge allowing them to do it yeah they don't give a shit it is yeah but i guess again yeah people just have to realize there's a lot of these narratives that we believe in of what the sides are when really it's sort of people are wealthy at the expense of people being poor. We have to, I think, as a country, there's a willing delusion a lot of Americans have about how we get the lifestyle we have.
Starting point is 01:15:40 I don't think a lot of people are willing to admit some of the shitty, terrible things we have done to afford this lifestyle. And if you want to keep it up, there's some shit we have to do. Our last president did all secret with robots. Right. This guy's, I don't know what he's doing, and he doesn't either, but I'm just saying, like, it's shitty. It's less savvy. We all have to make a change if you want to make a change. That's what's going to happen to quote MJ, I think it was.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Thank you so much for bringing Michael Jackson back into this. Oh, well, guys, thank you so much for joining me today. Let's just go around and tell everybody where let's plug some, share some socials. What y'all doing? So, Jason, what's going on with you? Okay. Well, after all this talk, after all this political talk, I really do want to bring up one thing that we're doing that's really exciting to me. We're creating a podcast-based, more of a documentary thing, not really a comedy.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Hopefully, we get some comedians in there to talk about it. But we're actually sitting down with some people in Mississippi for the Senate race with David Berea, the Democratic candidate in Mississippi, trying to flip at least one of those seats to a Democrat. And so we're working with them right now. Right now it's called Mississippi Goddamn, and we're going to hopefully be able to have that thing out there just in time for the midterms. So we're looking for support on that, and that's something we really believe in
Starting point is 01:17:03 and we're really trying to work on outside of comedy. Yeah. support on that and that's something i you know we really believe in we're really trying to work on outside of comedy yeah um otherwise you know please uh check out starburns.audio okay we have 40 shows going on right now at any given time it's a lot um and uh like like i said we got the we got the harman we got uh amanda seals roy scoville we just brought on kyle canane and his show boogie monster. That's my buddy. Dave stones on there too. Dave stones on there. It's awesome.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Very, very funny show. Both very funny people. We just picked up this new show called Mormon and the meth head, which you got to check out. It's about a, a former Mormon and a former method. And they, I bet they,
Starting point is 01:17:38 they have similar stories. Yeah. Jessa and Aaron and they're, they're hilarious. Um, uh, but please, please check all that stuff out.
Starting point is 01:17:45 And then you can – I do have a Twitter. Right. I've tried to use it. It's at Oatmeal Johnson. Okay. That's a good one. Yeah. Well, Jason Smith gets taken very fast.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Yeah, very quickly. Oatmeal Johnson's good. I like that one. Yeah, I like that a lot. I'd ask you for a tweet that you like, but as we talked earlier, you know, you're trying to stay off the Twitter because it's a cesspool. Well, my daughter tried to tell me things last night, and so she told me what I should look at. But then I didn't really understand any of the stuff that she was telling me. She said that I should look up – first she said that the underrated thing that I should let you guys know about is our communism memes.
Starting point is 01:18:18 She thinks communism memes are hilarious right now. I don't know if that's good or bad. I don't know. Her and her friends are obsessed with it. And she said, I need to look up Shane Dawson, Cody Coe, and Noelle Miller, and I needed to avoid anything by Emma Chamberlain and the Dolan twins. Interesting. So that's all I know right now.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Shane Dawson. Look at the controversy character. Yeah, tell her to check out late stage capitalism memes. Those are also very, very good. Yeah, I don't know what these 14-year-olds are looking for. I don't know why we're talking about communism so much in my house. Billy Wayne, what about you, my man? I am all over the place right now.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I'm about to go out. I'm going to be in Manhattan, Kansas, Kansas City, Missouri next week. The Accidental Comedy Festival in Cleveland at the end of the month. Oh, Nashville, Tennessee, April 18th. I'm doing this. April? Fucking August. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:19:07 It's okay. I was in Dublin last week, and my mind is messed up. I had a great time in Dublin. Dublin, Texas? No, Dublin, Ireland. Ah, okay. That's fair, though, Dublin, Texas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:16 That sounds like somewhere I would go, but it's very fair. Yeah. What else? Do you have a Twitter, my man? Billy Wayne Davis. um yeah what else do you have a twitter my man billy wayne davis i'm just gonna i think what i'm gonna start doing is the 3d gun thing came out and i just searched um 3d print this dick and just repeated just retweeted like there's a bunch of people saying stuff like that and i was like this is really funny just 3d print this dick so i just went through and
Starting point is 01:19:44 retweeted everybody. So I think that's how I'm going to treat Twitter. That and promote my shows and just be like, I'm not going to say anything anymore. I'm just going to be like, yesterday was like, I'm going to 3D print your mom. And there was like a bunch of people saying, I mean, going back to like 2015.
Starting point is 01:20:01 So I was just going through and retweeting. Do you think anybody from 2015's upset now that their 3d print your mom joke is resurfacing after all these years they would be like that's weird why is someone looking through my tweet i never thought of that that is just a weird retweet like i tried to hide that part of me that is yeah because it's easy to find you just yeah you just search the thing so yeah you can find me there. It was funny. I was thinking of tweeting something over the weekend of the idea of the band name Imagine Dragons, where I was like, what if you did Imagine Dragons? So then I go on Twitter and I go, I know somebody's tweeted this before.
Starting point is 01:20:35 And lo and behold, it's you. Oh, okay. That explains it. Like two years ago. And I was like, of course it was Billy Wayne Davis. It was like, what did you say? I was like, seriously, though. Imagine Dragons. For though. Imagine dragons.
Starting point is 01:20:45 For real. Imagine dragons. You can find me at Miles of Grey. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can find us on Facebook. We have a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we have show links and our footnotes. Footnotes. See?
Starting point is 01:21:03 Had to do it myself. Solo dolo out here. And where we have show links and also links toes. See, had to do it myself. Solo dolo out here. And where we have show links and also links to the song that we're going to write out on, which I'll get to in a second. A tweet I want to call out, aside from Billy Wayne's from earlier, is one from Jaboukie Young-White who said, Retail and service workers who openly scroll through their phone on the job are anti-capitalist legends.
Starting point is 01:21:22 So please remember that. These people are legends. And yeah, to write us out today, are anti-capitalist legends. So please remember that. These people are legends. And yeah, to write us out today, I want to play just an old school Roots song that I just feel like doesn't get enough love. It's from the album, You Want More. But this is the Roots with Dice Raw called The Lesson Part One.
Starting point is 01:21:37 It's got a little beatboxing and you know, their rhymes are just, they're gospel. So that's that. That's the lesson. That's been this season. Tune in Monday. Jack will be back.
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Starting point is 01:25:46 Don't ask me, honey, I'm not the one for stressin' If you wanna know, better ask brother question Does he know the time? Like, I know the time When I grab the microphone, it's like summertime Lay back to recline in my lazy boy chair Dice roll to why I do it, I'm the fuckin' potty, yeah Thank you. There's so much beauty in Mexican culture. We'll be right back. in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts.
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