The Daily Zeitgeist - Racist Walgreens Myth, Michael Myers = BLM Ally? 10.21.21
Episode Date: October 21, 2021In episode 1013, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and writer Kenny DeForest to discuss Racist myth or real life? Walgreens edition, RUDY IS NOT DRUNK Vol. 912, Facebook’s Brand Is So Toxic Zuck...erberg Reportedly Wants to Change Its Name, The Awkward Politics of the New Halloween Movies and more!FOOTNOTES: Racist myth or real life? Walgreens edition RUDY IS NOT DRUNK Vol. 912 Facebook’s Brand Is So Toxic Zuckerberg Reportedly Wants to Change Its Name The Awkward Politics of the New Halloween Movies LISTEN: DJ Nu-Mark, Bacao Rhythm & Steel Band - Everybody Everybody Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 207, Episode 4 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
It's Thursday, October 21st, 2021.
My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Havana Unana.
I'm hearing
sound sense in Havana
Unana.
My health's gone down since in Havana
Unana.
Y'all really got bad bedside
manners. I need a new
cat scanner. Havana
Unana. That is courtesy of
Suburban Panic Attack.
And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Ken Lee.
Ken Lee is a Dodger.
Ken Lee.
He strikes out the Braves. Ken Lee, he strikes out the Braves.
Ken Lee, Ken Lee Jansen.
Okay, that's just my love for Ken Lee Jansen.
Helping the Dodgers eke out a game three win.
Wonderful.
Shouts to Cody Bellinger as well.
But I always love Ken Lee Jansen because the reason I sing that song is there's a viral video called Ken Lee.
And it's a woman in Eastern Europe auditioning for their equivalent of American Idol.
And she's singing that Mariah Carey song, Without You.
But she's singing all gibberish.
She's like, Ken Lee, I believe in you, but without you.
And the judges are like, I'm sorry, what song was that?
She's like, Ken Lee by Mariah Carey.
And they're like, Ken Lee.
And I always think of Ken Lee Jansen when I think of that.
So, shout out to Ken Lee.
Love his pitching motion.
We were just talking about it before we started.
Just holds it up there.
Let you know what's about to happen.
I don't like his pre-motion motion where he does the two little shoulder ticks,
but I guess that helps him keep his hips closed or open.
I'm sure at bat, too, if you're not used to it, it might throw you off a little bit
because you might be like, oh, wait, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like if I was a pitcher, like if that was your superpower,
that you could throw a baseball 100 miles per hour,
like that's how I would design my motion,
because he just holds it up there like,
you fuckers ready for this?
Ready for this.
Yeah, he doesn't hide it.
He just lets you know it's coming.
Let's hope this series lasts for a few more games too.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by a hilarious and talented
comedian writer and actor who you've seen on seth meyers cordon on hbo's crashing he was a producer
and co-host of comedy at the knitting factory one of the best independently run comedy shows
in the world as comedy album bad dreams debuted number one on itunes he's named one of the best
of just for last new faces by Village Voice.
Please welcome the hilarious, the talented Kenny DeForest!
Hey, that's my best Ken.
He's got his own money in a used car.
And I didn't have time to think of more lyrics.
But this is Best Friend by Sweetie and also Doja Cat.
Hello. Good to be here.
Beautiful, beautiful.
I hope that was okay.
It felt not as good as what you guys had going on, but...
You know, that was great.
That felt fantastic.
I think that's our first best friend, a.k.a.
Yeah.
Now I feel good.
What's new, man?
Oh, man.
You know, it's really good to be here.
I was at the Laker game last night.
Saw Sweetie.
So, you know, she was on the dome.
She was on the brain.
She's in your bones.
I actually was like, who is that beautiful woman holding a diamond-crusted basketball?
And I was right in my suspicion it was a rapper because it was Sweetie.
Diamond-crusted basketball.
That was a bag or that's just like no no
she was just
holding it
and then
yeah yeah
she was just like
she was like
you know
in case
in case
you guys lose the ball
I got this one
and um
she was sitting next
to Jeannie Buss
and I was just like
this is great
I just like
this is the best
but the best of Los Angeles
is the Staples Center
I love that place
right
yeah Adele was in the building you know what i mean a lot of people were talking about her
and rich paul just i think it's rocking like a what leather outfit yeah no i actually saw her
she went running across the court literally all the way from one side to the other ran up the
stairs gave a woman a hug and then turned around and ran back and i was like i don't know who that
woman is but she's important but that's that's a flex right there she's about to get an album yeah she's about to get an album
written about her it actually interrupted a fast break when she did that yeah but people are just
like oh shit it's adele sorry our bad adele you just uh go on your way yeah adele uh rich paul
i mean the queen of staples. Staples is a new queen.
Being an L.A. fixture now, leaving London town.
Okay, okay.
I see you, Adele.
Yeah, I do like that it's no longer just like,
oh, did you see Jack Nicholson?
Yeah, it's like, no, I didn't.
It bummed me out.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Try not to see Jack.
There's so much more to see.
There's always that thing at Laker games where they'll put him on the big screen.
And he used to be like, you know, play it cool.
I feel like yesterday when they put him on, he was just kind of like, like he was like, all right, all right, all right.
I was like, damn.
Yeah, time comes for all of us.
That's true.
Yeah.
He's got an entire hot dog in the corner of his mouth.
Like, just dangling. Yeah. Oh, man. One of the greats, both our guest and Jack Nicholson.
All right. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
let's tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. There is a new sort of racist myth happening in the
mainstream media that we want to just debunk for you real quick. And we're going to talk about
Biden's child vax plan. We'll talk about all that. We'll talk about Facebook's new plan.
You know, it's always a good sign when your strategy for moving your company forward is
the same as the strategy murderers use when they go on the
lam because he's he's gonna give them a new name i think is the plan uh we'll talk about a new
historical narrative from david graber who wrote that bullshit jobs essay and passed away last
year but he has a new kind of comprehensive revision of how we think about history. That's
pretty dope. And of course, we'll look at the 912th reason that Rudy Giuliani is not drunk.
Thank you very much. All of that, plenty more. But first, Kenny, we do like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history? Fantasy NBA pre-draft rankings because i just had my draft for fantasy basketball
it's a big part of my life and uh if you don't play fantasy basketball you're fucking up dude
it's the best one is it i feel like i i fantasy is a really it's a fine it's a double-edged sword
like it causes me to get so engaged with a league but also i can't do anything else except
like have regrets all the time about like who i'm playing or not playing and i'm like i knew it i
and like that part really fucks me up currently i'm like it's easier to do with like the english
premier league which we have a fantasy league for the listeners. And that's his games like once a week.
And then I can just kind of like, all right, I can, I can have my regrets.
But other times, like when I've done football or things like that, it's just, it, it fully
takes over me.
Yeah.
Well, so for me, the, the, I guess this is the way I rationalize it anyway, but I just
look at that when I'm taking a deuce instead of Twitter and it makes me less mad than Twitter.
that when i'm taking a deuce instead of twitter and it makes me less mad than twitter wow so so it is it is like improvement in that regard you know right and then i just kind of you know i
treat it like a uh instapot man i set it and forget it you know the lineup gets set and i and
i and i move on with my life and if something happens something happens but who's uh who uh
who do you play with like other comedians you have like a consistent group you've been doing this for years with,
with high stakes.
Like what's the culture of your fantasy crew?
This is the fourth year of this league,
the third year of it being a keeper league.
We voted after the first year to make it a keeper league.
So it's a bunch of comics and like a couple guys that are just friends of
comics in the league because we needed to fill space.
But four years strong, couple guys that are just friends of comics in the league because we needed to fill space but um
four years strong we call it the jimmy butler standard because we've got a very high some would call it unreasonable standard for the league and um yeah man we're looking good this
year okay yeah do you uh so you have a squad that you've had for a couple years now and you're just
like adding yeah well you keep four players per year this now, and you're just, like, adding? Yeah, well, you keep four players per year.
And you can only keep each guy three years.
So this is my last year of Luka.
I took Luka as a rookie,
and I've been trying to build a winner around Luka.
And we'll see.
I took Jalen Green this year, too,
so I'm still thinking about the future.
And we'll see, man.
I think I got third last year,
so we got to step it up.
Are there any, like... This is the other thing that always surprised me when you play fantasy people.
Like, people are just freaks out of nowhere with their fantasy knowledge
or just, like, they're thinking about it really effectively.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Barely talk about this sport.
Are you fucking smashing me out?
Do you have people like that in the league
or everyone's kind of pretty consistently performing?
Well, no, definitely.
There's definitely that.
And, I mean, you know, for for me why i like it dude is i i fucking waste so much of my life reading about basketball
as it is right it's like i should do something with this knowledge like this can't just be
something i talk about at the bar once a month when i happen to be around people in a game zone
like i gotta have i gotta do something with this knowledge that i have but yeah there's like couple of ringers in the league where it's like, dude, I thought you were,
I thought you were, I don't know what I thought you did with your time, but I did not think it
was no this much about the coolest sport that's ever existed. So yeah, man, consistently shocked,
but I just love it. I love the league. I love the sport. And, um, you know, it's a mental health
thing coming out of the pandemic. It's like, let's take care pandemic it's like let's take care of the head let's take care of the head i don't need to be looking at the 24-hour news cycle all day so
all right i'll allow myself to do something dumb that makes me happy you know i love that i and
it's i think a great thing to say this is a perfect social media substitute yeah right to give yourself
something else to just look at will take your attention it will cause you to look at other articles but at least it's not about the decaying yeah like you know
no matter how bad jalen green shoots he's not trying to take abortion away you know what i mean
so it's like at the very baseline i'm not going to be that mad right right right you know that's
jonathan isaacs is trying to take away yeah yeah that's what it's
what those long arms are used for yes fucked up yeah i used to play fantasy hoops and i just it
it's definitely like right in that sweet spot between like football is almost pure luck and
it's once a week so you don't have to like think about it all that much it's like the easy kind of
starter fantasy sport.
Baseball, I think I've never played baseball, but my friends who do like it takes over their life.
And like it's all they talk about for the entire baseball season.
Basketball is like right in the middle.
You know, it has half the games of baseball.
And but I don't know, man, I won the first year that I was in my, like, college friends league
and then, like, just steadily got worse.
And I was just like, all right, fuck this.
I don't want this.
Yeah.
But it's interesting.
The people who, you know, you got Jokic as the number one pick this year
just in standard redraft leagues.
But some people, like, LeBron is number 25 because he rests so much uh just
according to like some some rankings okay and also we'd be remiss to not tell people that today
is national reptile awareness day i think we forgot that oh yeah dude did i forget to mention
that yeah i know we fucked up fuck man yeah and national witch haz Witch Hazel Day. Okay? Oh, right.
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I did mention that, though, right?
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That's how you know it's safe. Versatile. If safe his face safe that's right yeah i mean every day is national
reptile awareness day over here because we're aware of the uh reptilian shapeshift plots take
over the the globe and thank you you know hillary when are we going to talk about this more
yeah man if i see one more motherfucker with a vertical eye-blink axis,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
God, I'm tired of this.
Everywhere I look, just with your slit eyes blinking at me,
always sunning on a rock,
catching whole rodents with your tongue and swallowing them whole.
Enough!
Enough is enough.
If you don't think Bill and Hillary Clinton are somewhere sunning on a rock right now then i
don't know what to tell you yeah you know they're sunning in iraq okay on a rock and why do you
think they invaded yeah iraq because george bush sunning rocks oh do you mean where do you mean
where they helped uh jeffrey epstein escape to yeah exactly ir Iraq. What's a rock if not an island?
Thank you.
What is something you think is overrated, Kenny?
The game of golf.
I just took it up.
I just took it up.
I just took it up.
And I am proud to say I've already reached my 10,000 hours of yelling,
God damn it!
Because that is all.
Honestly, golf, it's just like men just need to get more comfortable being like hey man you want to do you want to just talk
do you want to just like look out at the landscape and talk yeah we ain't like looking at each other
you want to go for a stroll my guy we don't even have to carry you know clubs i just want to hang
out with my pal
right yeah i mean my god so and even then there's not questions being asked in golf it's like it's
like you're you're teeing off it's like god fuck man and you're like yo is everything cool yeah
man i'm good it's just shit at home dude you know got the wedding coming up and you're like oh that's
the entry point into someone speaking
about it's just like let me have an outburst and then when someone goes whoa buddy then the healing
can start 100 it is that is really all it is it's like you shouldn't have to i don't know i shouldn't
have to spend like a month's paycheck on clubs just to tell my friend
that i'm frustrated right you know you're right come on man but at the same time i'll keep going
back because that's what it does i'm a masochist is it the like because i know like when i early
on when tiger woods was on the scene i was like like, well, I'm blazing. Then that means this is my basketball.
It was like, I wasn't good at karate or basketball.
So I was like, what other racist stereotype can I use to try and give my 12
year old imagination something to hold on to?
And in the beginning, it was all about really like connecting with the ball.
And as a kid, I just didn't have the patience.
Like sometimes you'd connect, you're like, oh, that was fucking amazing.
I love this shit.
Other times I would just go to a driving range.
And then other times you've completely fuck up and like, this is trash.
I hate my life and everything.
Are you, does the thing that entices you is just like that, that sort of you're striving
for that consistency to be able to be like every, I don't curse every time now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, yeah.
Truth be told, dude, I grew up playing basketball very competitively and, um, you know, and I still play, but I'm hitting that age where
my body's starting to be like, maybe you need to find a new competitive outlet. Right. Right. So
we can age gracefully. Cause I mean, dude, it's one of those things you don't want to think about
it, but I cannot get hurt. I just can't get hurt. At this point in my life,
like when I moved to LA, I tore my labrum in a pickup game at LA Fitness because every way,
I don't know if you know this, but everyone at LA Fitness thinks that there's Lakers scouts there.
And they're really trying to get that 10 day. And I tore my labrum. It was my first three months in LA. And I come home from the gym and my right arm is just dead,
like fully hanging to the side. I can't move it. And I got to explain to my girl that her,
her man is now one armed for the next like two months. I didn't have health insurance.
So I was literally just on zoom. Luckily I had a childhood friend who became a doctor.
So I was like, what's going on? And he like talked me through it. But at the end of that,
I was like, I can't like, right. me through it but at the end of that i was like
i can't like right i'm a grown-ass man i can't have one arm for two months you know what i'm
saying like if i tear my achilles or yeah if i like i played pickup ball before a uh stand-up
taping one that's how crazy i am like i was in new york to tape something like a big career thing
i'm playing pickup ball like two days before and at the end i was like what the what why what was that like what if you tore your acl and then you just have
to come out on crutches to do your job like oh my god like bro you know this is a great bit he's
doing oh the one-legged comedian i like this angle he's got a good angle guy who just came from
pickup ball it's like very real you're like
i'm just kind of in denial about my mortality at the moment but got a whole 30 on it i played
pickup hoops the morning of my uh wedding and almost got into a fight with somebody that would
have been bad oh you know i was a young hot-headed uh-old. You get punched in the eye. It's like even Jack's eye is in black tie.
Yeah, exactly.
Good look.
What is something you think is underrated?
The national parks of this beautiful country.
I think I've probably gone on about this
on this show before,
but we just had a friend get married in Yosemite.
And dude, as easy as it is to hate America right now and what it stands for just go look at
it dude it's so beautiful and honestly like i know fans of this show are probably fans of
progressive politics or you just listen to get really angry about progressive politics
but national parks are progressive politics done well. It's just perfect, man.
And it honestly just fuels my soul, dude.
And it got me through the pandemic.
And yeah, we were in Yosemite, and we went on the Hetch Hetchy hike,
which is the reservoir that gives San Francisco all its drinking water.
And it was just dope, man.
Just learning about the attitudes of this country
and how they've shifted. So like Hetch Hetchy was used to be a Valley and then they flooded it
after the San Francisco fires. None of this I knew before this wedding, by the way. So San Francisco,
there was like a huge public debate. And at the time, this is early 1900s, the prevailing public
opinion was that the wilderness is something to be conquered very
like manifest destiny sort of attitude like it's us versus nature right we got to go conquer that
shit and show who's the boss who's the king of the fucking world yeah and dry up all the rivers
and lakes and then turn the things that aren't rivers and lakes into rivers and lakes that's
right just just because we can because we're fucking men yeah we gotta we gotta gentrify the woods and yes you know make the deer
go find somewhere else to live exactly and so but then there was this guy john we're m-u-i-r i don't
know how to say it i just read it yeah and he like he was a all about it early preservationist you
know what i mean and like they kind of reached this compromise with Hetch Hetchy
because San Francisco burned down and they were like, bro, we need water.
And so they kind of worked together to create this situation
that worked well for nature and for people.
And I was just so fascinated, man.
And by the end, I was like, I honestly needed to hear about a time
where people came together and solved a problem.
You know what I mean?
So National Parks, you've got to take advantage, man. people like came together and solved a problem and you know what i mean so i just we had national
parks you got to take advantage man everyone we we did so much work in the like new new deal era
like the one time that america was able to like consolidate behind progressive and you know
socialist ideals and we're just coasting off of that shit like ever since and like slowly undoing that progress yeah man and it's just like it's the shit that like it should be bipartisan you know what i mean
like i've been in national parks and seen dudes in mega hats walking around and i'm just like
so i know you love this right but you know that the guy he wants to drill this for you know that
right like he wants that's not. You know that, right?
That's not here, though.
That's Bears Ears.
It's like, well, that's also a national park and monument.
They're looking for good drilling spots.
That's what they're doing there.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love the idea of a Republican who goes to Sedona to heal on the vortexes.
Like, who's that guy?
Right, right, right. Who is this cross-section of humanity?
Yeah. It's Kyrsten Sinema, probably. Yeah. To be honest. the vortexes like who's that guy right who is this cross-section of humanity yeah it's kirsten
cinema probably yeah yeah libertarians have you been in the muir woods in mill valley
no but i now and a lot of it obviously is named after him right yeah where is that daddy john
muir mill valley up in the bay area no okay to do that. That'll be next on the list.
I love it up there, man.
Bay Area.
Yeah.
You're overrated and underrated are sort of at cross purposes because I feel like a lot of the good park space in a lot of the cities around the country are golf courses.
Right.
That we need to invade and just claim as parks that that we can use this is i bring it up a lot it's
from a malcolm gladwell podcast but it's like the one gladwell idea that i was like fuck yeah man
he nailed it he's got it how much how many tax breaks are we giving these places what we're
paying them to keep a apart like a bunch of the best land in the middle of the city as a private thing that we're not allowed to go into.
Like, that's the deal that we got.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
But I won't tell your golf course buddies that you said that shit.
I mean, I'll be honest.
Look at me, dude.
They know.
They know I'm a mole
yeah they can tell i the way i look out at the green i'm like you know we could really plant
some beautiful acorn bearing oak trees like shut up and hit what if we rewilded this space
yeah i look like a guy who lived where they built the golf course, and I'm coming out, this is my land.
Right, right.
You can't put on pants goofy enough to make them trust you.
They're like, oh, those are cool golf spikes, Kenny.
What do you call those?
Oh, those are Birkenstocks.
Pretty standard.
I call them yuppie stompers.
Get off my land.
Do you even know whose ancestral land this is?
Me, a white man.
Emphasis on the H in white.
White.
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists.
But the prizes disappeared.
And what started as a video game promotion
became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture.
I just don't believe they exist.
I mean, my reaction, shock and awe.
That sword was amazing.
It was so beautiful.
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I want you back in my life.
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I have a proposal for you.
Come up here and document my project.
All you need to do is record everything
like you always do.
One session, 24 hours.
BPM 110. 120. She's terrified.
Should we wake her up?
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You didn't figure it out?
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And we just had a visit from
Super Producer Ana Hosnia, and
we got to talk a little bit. We're going to have
to have her on at some point to talk
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A couple truly amazing introductions.
One person who did the haunted house thing
where you have your head poking through a table
and it's on a plate.
But that was how he introduced himself. He had people wheel him up with his like poking through a table and it's like on a plate yeah but that was like how
he introduced himself he had like people wheel him up with his head poking through like on a plate
and like that was his bit but then he stayed that way for like the whole show just had people so
you know making an impression that's how i met my wife doing a viral prank. are concerned that Walgreens is not keeping their margins where they need to be to hit their numbers
this quarter. And that's basically the thrust of this story is that there's like a single video
that is being basically weaponized by the Chamber of Commerce to, I don't know, And just gobbled up by media outlets because it fits in with the knockout game and other racists like fucking bullshit rings that are plaguing their facilities.
And, you know, like you're saying, this thing, this one video sparked a whole ton of coverage
like across the world, like South Africa, Mexico, South Korea, UK, like you name it,
people are like, whoa, okay, like this person just stole a bunch of stuff and just walked
out of this Walgreens.
And this journalist, Adam Johnson, who, you know, reports on a lot of stuff that's happening in the Bay Area, points out like there's just so many weird things about how people are talking about this story without really honestly looking at like why this might benefit someone else or the position Walgreens is actually in.
walgreens is actually in like for starters he points out that this story where this like dude just you know was shoplifting at walgreens this story got over 474 000 percent more coverage
than this article about walgreens admitting that they stole four and a half million dollars from
its employees over several years through wage theft. This story has gotten way more pickup.
And so the story where the victims are the readers,
the people who are the public gets no attention,
but the one where the corporation is the victim
of much smaller theft,
that's the one that the New York Times
and the Washington Post chooses to pick up.
ABC, CBS, Yahoo, USA Today, Bloomberg,
like every Sinclair broadcaster-owned affiliate station, Fox, like everyone.
Now, also, in defense of the media,
can't we all agree that if there's one thing this country has too few of,
it's Walgreens?
Can we really afford to lose five or six Walgreens?
Right.
Absolutely not.
We're going to be in Calgary.
I'm glad you said something.
Yeah.
This is why we have
all kinds of guests on the show
to bring balance
to these conversations.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Next thing you're going to tell me
is they're going to start
closing Starbucks.
And how many of those
do we have left?
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
Then where has the war
on Christmas gone?
But with this situation, you know, a lot situation, he's just basically saying the basic, which is challenging other journalists or questioning is like, why isn't anyone bothering to ask further questions?
What is Walgreens' current financial situation?
Is it purely because that there's been some shoplifting that these are the reasons why they're closing
its stores?
Or is it really because this is all part of a campaign to possibly oust a progressive
DA that's in San Francisco or to possibly repeal something like Prop 30, Prop 47, which
sets set higher limits for what is felonious theft?
Because then if you repeal that wow then like
things like you know traditional petty larceny might now arise to the level of a felony which
would be great because again all of these like crime stories typically will presage like a huge
like tough on crime movement which ends up with black and brown people disproportionately in
prison and so with this one he's pointing pointing out four major holes that people just aren't discussing around this story.
The first is, if this crime wave is so bad, why aren't other big pharmacies also closing down?
Because CVS hasn't said they're closing down and that they have this issue. They're operating in
the exact same city. And what's going on there. Also Walgreens,
they're closing more stores in New York city than they are in San Francisco. Not much attention to
that, but because maybe they can't tie that to a viral video to give it this other narrative.
The second thing is Walgreens has openly said in their FEC or SEC filings that they are like
since 2019, that they have a plan to like like, shut down numerous stores to, quote, optimize the other ones,
which is really to offset $1.5 billion in real estate liabilities that they have.
And they've been saying this since 2019, so this is nothing new.
It can't just be the shoplifting, right?
And we know certain things that, on that on paper statistically shoplifting has gone down
in recent years in san francisco that's been sort of analyzed and the data is there but then when
you ask the people who sort of defend this narrative they immediately say like well there's
a lot that's just been underreported to basically negate that talking point and make it reduce this
fact to something that no one could ever know. And then you can keep the conversation going.
It seems like this story is being underreported.
You know, this viral video of somebody being good at shoplifting.
Well, there's also like, there's just, it's become so obvious to me that,
and this is on both sides of the media narrative.
Media in general has figured out that fear is the number one way
to keep your attention
and attention is their currency.
So you have to be scared all the time
because then they can be like,
and we're the only source you can trust
to help you navigate these choppy waters.
Yeah.
And dude, it's the same thing.
Like I was talking to a friend of mine
who was in Portland for the pandemic. And I was like, dude dude it seems like it was crazy up there he was like not really dude
it was like a small section of downtown and a very small number of these like idiots walking around
he's like i barely noticed that i live close to downtown you know and like when i was living in
chicago with the gun violence the gun violence was really bad but people would call me and be like, is it just gunshots all the time? I was like, no, dude. In
fact, if you want to talk about the root cause of the gun violence, we can, but that's not what the
media wants you to talk about. That's not why they're selling it. You know what I mean? They're
selling it because it's a liberal city with tight gun laws and look at what's happening.
We've gotten so bad at asking the next question.
And I think it's a social media thing, too.
You feed people a headline, they maybe click on it to read the logline of the story, and then they move on.
They go, ah, look at this.
Right, exactly.
And with this, too, he pointed out that an SFGate reporter actually bothered to go ahead and ask a follow-up question and not just taking their word as the gospel truth.
And this is a quote, said, quote, when SFGate asked Walgreens to directly respond to charges from one of these people and others that the chain is weighing other considerations beyond retail theft, the spokesperson stopped returning emails.
Hmm. Huh. Okay. Whatever. Take that for what it is.
Sinks like shit still.
And then the other thing that he points out is Walgreens,
Target,
CVS.
They're like part of a group of retailers that are worked very closely with
lobbying groups like the California Real Retail Association and the California
Chamber of Commerce,
where those people have spent,
those groups have spent millions trying to repeal Prop 47,
which would make,
which create much harsher penalties
for things like theft.
And, you know, while it's not knowable,
yet these corporations
are almost certainly funding
the efforts to recall the DA there,
Boudin or Boudin,
who, you know,
which is why they're like being,
like, they're like,
why isn't people,
why aren't people talking about any of this other stuff? And I think what he's pointing out is
saying that there's just always this status quo of, you know, always believe the corporation,
you know, always believe what they say. And he, he, you know, he sort of presented a thought
experiment. Imagine if a group of Black Lives Matter activists said that 90% of Black
customers get profiled when they enter a store at a Walgreens, the media would never take it like
that. It would be like, well, you're going to have to show all these other things. You're going to
have to show like, well, where did the evidence come from? Is there CCTV footage? There's many
more hoops to jump through when people are just trying to, you know, not to say that that's a real
stat, but just as an example, if activists bring up a point like that, then it immediately has to go
through all these layers of vetting and things like, which is fine because that's journalism,
but why, but it just, it just reeks of a double standard when you look at a story like that.
Well, what's also crazy to me, man, is like so much of the conservative movement,
the modern conservative movement
is rooted in conspiracy theory. But what's crazy is one conspiracy that is actually happening in
real time is conservative media groups buying up local news channels and pushing this shit out.
It's called the Carlisle Group. You can look it up. They did it last week tonight on it.
it's called the carlisle group you can look it up you know they did it last week tonight on it and so that's what's so frustrating is it's like bad conspiracy theories are being weaponized
to mobilize these people to be violent and for instance storm the capital and all this stuff
but then there's actual conspiracies happening like what we're talking about now and conspiracy
theorists are not the ones
that want to hear it or see it. It's so insane. It's like, and conspiracy theorists are always
like, follow the money. And it's like, yeah, okay. Follow the money. Follow the money.
And it's the thing that's especially frustrating here is that it's the New York Times and the
Washington Post. You know, we covered last week
a New York Times story about the rise in murders in a number of cities across the U.S. and they
just took the police's word for it that it could be blamed on people protesting them murdering
people. Like they're like, well, they were mean to us so we stopped you know we can't
can't help it it's like the same thing they're trying to read they're trying to recall like
da's they're trying to like put pressure on people to like stop asking them to not murder people
and it's it's the same shit here it's just like the every you have a argument between the right and
basically like slightly right of center new york times like and that's all we're getting and it's
really fucking frustrating right and not talking really about giving people some political context
around these things to understand all the dimensions at play they just want to zoom in
microscopically on this one part and like,
well,
that's true in a vacuum.
If you look at that piece there in just by itself,
but if you're not giving people the full picture,
then yeah,
all these stories do is serve to undermine the very little bit of progress
that was made through,
you know,
the uprisings and protests in the summer of 2020, and trying to bring back this idea of like,
we need to get tough on crime and shit,
when the whole point about talking about things
were how oppressive the legal system is,
how it only disproportionately affects black and brown people,
and that we need to be more aware of it.
Yet stories like this are just like,
no, no, no, man, they're stealing.
And look at the people in the photos.
Huh? You see something?
Do we need to do something?
I don't know. Anyway. Dude, what's really crazy too is it's,
I've been obsessed with this since the Black Lives Matter movement started.
And I think liberals in general just have to get better at messaging and learning what
conservatives or moderates actually care about. Like reforming policing to make it better for black and brown people would also make it
better for cops. That's the part that's so frustrating is it's like you wouldn't be put
in such dangerous situations. You know what I mean? Like the big talking point is always how
dangerous it is to be a cop. Yes, it is. It is. It 100% is. And it's because a lot of reasons,
but one of them is you're being put in these situations for no reason. You're being sent into these neighborhoods armed to the teeth to go
after a drug dealer when drugs shouldn't even be dealt with that way. You know what I mean?
Reforming the system would be good for everybody involved. And that's the part that's so
frustrating. But again, this is where the media comes into play the media does not profit off of a united populace the media does not profit off of all of us having
common sense and realizing that things that are good for this side are also good for this side
they can't have that because when we're fighting and when we're scared and when the left thinks
there's this rising tide of nazis and when the right thinks everyone on the left is a gay communist that wants
to convert their son,
then,
then they win.
And we're just all fighting each other and clicking on our articles all day
being like,
ah,
what do I do to stop this?
And it just creates this nonsense that we're dealing with constantly.
It drives me truly insane.
It's a similar thing to like,
we were talking about yesterday with Jesse waters when he just flip flopped on
like paternity leave, you know, like it's a similar thing to like we were talking about yesterday with jesse waters when he just flip-flopped on like paternity leave you know like it's a it's a paternity leave is a policy
that benefits it doesn't matter your political party or political identification it's it's just
a policy and when he was benefiting from it he was like i love this he's like i used to mock people
that took it now i love it i wish it was six weeks long then pete budaj is taking
paternity leave and it immediately has to be like well fuck fuck paternity leave like look what
happened to the country like this black chain is all fucked up i actually only took like two days
off because like i have my shit together and only like a weakling would you know actually take
paternity leave it just shows that there's never an ability to say well you know like that that
that actually tracks like that that that's that's a benefit
that's that unfortunately that's a thing that overlaps between uh just a basic human need or
right that i can look at as an objective good but it's that everything is not set up like that
everything has to be completely put through this like opposite like mirror effect where everything
has to be on the contrary yeah let's uh let's really briefly
touch on uh we we do have uh yet more evidence that rudy giuliani is not drunk he is back at
it again posting to social media this time with a a filter that makes him look like a more elderly Abraham Lincoln.
Yeah.
And yeah,
it's like,
it's somewhat performance art.
Cause he's again doing the only voice.
It's the same voice he does for both Abraham Lincoln and the queen.
Yeah.
Uh,
somehow.
And it's,
yeah,
I don't know.
Okay.
Should we just play a clip of it?
We'll just play it. Yeah. I don't know. Should we just play a clip of it? We'll just play it.
Yeah, he's this time he's using his powers of drunkenness to try and affect.
Acting. It's called acting.
I'm sorry.
Alleged alleged acting or whatever we're calling this to affect the voters who are have a decision to make for their governor in Virginia. Virginia, vote against the man who dishonored our past by selling my bedroom
hundreds and hundreds of times to scoundrels in a pay-for-play scheme.
In my time, we had a name for men who sold bedrooms for one night in your time the name is terry mccullough
and the clinton flees once and for all he starts flipping into a bad british accent at the end
there for some reason yeah no he does so what the fuck was that um thanks rudy you know a lot of people are like oh i think he's referring
this like totally debunked story about how when terry mccullough worked as like the head finance
guy at the dnc that there was like the rumor that like for a certain amount you could sleep in the
lincoln bedroom if you were a top donor and while he like the whole thing came out of him like
writing about how to get closer to donors because like the whole thing came out of him like writing about
how to get closer to donors because like the democrats had just lost the house and shit
in the midterms like okay to prepare for the next presidential maybe bring more donors in be closer
and someone not him wrote in the margins like sleepovers question mark and then that took on
like his whole life of its own there were like hearings hearings about it, but it wasn't Terry McAuliffe.
I have anything to do with it aside from him authoring a paper that someone else scribbled something on.
But even then, it's really not definitive.
So that's what Rudy wants everyone to remember, I guess.
We used to have a name for them.
In your time, you call them Terry McAuliffe.
We used to have a name for them.
In your time, you called them Terry McAuliffe.
It's just good writing, good performance,
good, like, just sort of rhythm to his delivery.
People wonder why there's not more conservative comedians,
but I mean, Jesus, there's, like,
not even a bait and switch in that, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You, like, set it up like a joke was coming.
Yeah.
I thought I was going to hear the name.
What did we used to call it, Abe?
Come on.
Give it to us, baby.
Don't know.
Oh, okay.
Okay, cool, dude.
We nailed it.
Okay, I mean, speaking of conservative comedian,
Kenny, when is your set scheduled for Gutfeld?
Oh.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I didn't say that.
When's your set scheduled for Gutfeld?
Gutfeld!
Gutfeld!
Exclamation point.
There used to be a name for comedians that went on Gutfeld.
Now we just call them Dennis Miller.
Yeah.
Yeah, babe.
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And we're back. yeah so facebook has announced that they're i think in a week's time one week from today october 28th they are doing a facebook's big connect conference and mark zuckerberg may be announcing the new name for facebook oh because
that's gonna that's gonna fix their problems yeah it it worked the first time when justin
timberlake was like drop the the you know oh right just me and then facebook boom nothing but
yeah what so i think that'll solve all of the problems that the human beings who interact with the social media platform are experiencing.
It's just it's the name.
That's the problem.
My pitch.
Drop the Facebook.
Just the.
Oh, the.com.
Yeah.
The.com.
People wouldn't really know what it was.
The Holy Bible. maybe they could just change
it to that yeah delamore edition yeah we could definitely use a little bit of that bible in this
country i'll tell you i mean you're you're mouth to god's ear all right yeah that's a good setup
now let's get into the real story here jack the lack of christ in our children's educations across this land. Thank you. That's right. My status is
Kenny is currently
worried about the future
of this pagan nation.
My status is
saved through Christ's salvation, and I hope
you are as well.
This would be like if Louis C.K. came
back and was like, I'm Louis OK
now.
And I'm A-OK. Really? I i mean it has that sort of tone deaf like
confidence where it's like is that truly the solution that you think this this reminds me
this is a true story this reminds me of when i was still uh still a drinker i went i got a dui
and then my solution was to shave my beard off.
Yeah.
And I was like, the guy that got that DUI had a beard.
This is a new grass.
This guy, this clean face would never do such a thing.
One thing I noticed, dudes with beards, way more reckless.
That's right.
Says a lot.
How about some clean Facebook?
Right.
Yes.
Thank you.
Although I don't know how well that would go over with the people who are on there doing their own research,
since I think they tend to prefer kind of rough, neckbeard-ish things.
Considering what Facebook is used for, they should just name it 8chan.
Right.
No, honestly.
Just kind of merge it.
Let's get right to it
yeah just just get ahead of everything let them know where you're at qanon.com yeah qanon hangout
dot biz 8chan three months ago what is filtered down from 8chan three months ago old 8chan that's
what it is the way back machine i don't um. I'm curious to know what that name is.
And I'm really interested to know if I'm sure they've done some research where they think it could potentially sway some public opinion.
But I'm hoping that people realize that this can't be seen as any sort of positive action from Facebook that the pressure is still on.
But I don't know.
Maybe they think that's
what it is like maybe they'll get confused i mean okay we don't have the bandwidth to follow
everything so i do feel like they're just counting on us to like forget and be like oh what's this
new thing you know like i don't know first also not to get sincere here but but you've got to replace Zuckerberg if you want to have a chance.
He's got it.
You've got to just bring in a new guy,
preferably a new not guy, a new anything but guy.
Just get someone new in there.
That's your rebrand.
That's who we hate.
It doesn't matter what Zuckerberg calls it.
You're still the guy that stole this
so you could rate women that wouldn't sleep with you.
That's still what this is.
Until you're gone, that's what this is.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, that's why I've announced the new CEO,
Zach Mecklenburg.
You're going to love this guy.
Let me go get him.
One second.
Zach, are you there?
Yes, I am.
Oh, here he is. Folks like that. but to your point kenny like that people don't have the bandwidth could you imagine we're
having this discussion like in two years when they're like i can't believe fun spot is is
responsible for all this conspiracy theory stuff that's going on you're like y'all it's fucking
facebook still what fun spot is actually pretty good that's the best you're like y'all it's fucking facebook still what are fun spot is
actually pretty good that's the best pitch i've heard so far it's like because it's meant to be
like what's the least uh you know the most is just innocent sounding thing but i but i get it
some people probably will fully erase their mind i think it's a new brand and be like the problems
are the same i think in two years we're gonna be like do you think fun spot got pat sajak elected president oh man yeah the articles from yeah we'll see maggie haberman
being like think about it folks look i think he might be too mean to some of the people on
wheel of fortune but god damn do i respect his politics
i'm just worried he's gonna make the country go bankrupt hey there he is and i mean and plus his
spin the wheel at the border option for immigration i think it's really really novel and it takes a
lot out of like the sort of pain of trying to determine someone's future and you leave it to
a randomized wheel that we've waited to actually goose the results but anyway don't tell them that the question is
is he going to weather the pay-to-play scandal from his buy a vowel program
i mean let's just stay with this come on there's there's got to be more there yeah
apparently this is all part of that. You might remember a couple of months ago when Zuckerberg was like,
we're not actually a social media company.
We're a metaverse company.
Yeah.
And,
uh,
apparently that is,
it's going to have something to do with the metaverse.
Like,
I hope it's really,
you know,
ill thought out.
And it's basically like the matrix or something like,
right.
Because that, yeah. It's not the article. I i was like are you going to explain what metaverse is are you going to say
that yeah okay online man hope you bought your real estate in the metaverse because when we start
doing digital events man you're going to want to own the guggenheim in the metaverse because think
about that if jay-z drops his nft at the metaverse opening at the
guggenheim and you own that that's a lot of dough coming to you bro that's a lot of dough dude man
before today we're talking about though people are buying metaverse real estate oh i know and
you're just like what are you fucking what maybe this is good though i was thinking about this like
social media is bad we i think we can agree but it does keep
people in their house on their computer that probably should not be out in society
like if you're willing to buy property in the metaverse please by god get addicted to your
computer and stop going outside like right please just like stay in grubhub all your meals. And just, if you're that person, please, by all means.
That is the metaverse, pretty much.
Yeah.
You stay indoors, you grubhub, you're buying your digital real estate.
And you're just crushing it, man.
You're just crushing it, dude.
The number one growth industry in the United States these days is actually just money laundering.
Just finding places for rich people to launder money.
And then, like, convincing everybody else that else that like it's a good investment it's really something
it's cool right i think you're gonna say cool it's cool it's hopeful it's hopeful
yeah it's really made me believe again yeah that's what i yeah yeah that but that's honestly
like hearing some people talking about nfts like
and be just like so fucking hopeful they're just like no man it's really like the way
like this is gonna actually solve all our problems because we're gonna know it's like uh-huh well
yeah and well that's uh there's so many things like with just even like the idea of that something
could be decentralized like that because everything you're looking at is just being centralized in
other places so there's a lot a lot to unpack there and because everything you're looking at is just being centralized in other places.
So there's a lot to unpack there.
And yeah, like you're saying,
the number one, like the big uses of it,
especially as like a lot of people like sort of track some of these transactions,
like these just seem like just straight money laundering.
Without a doubt.
That's what I was like trying to get into crypto.
And I was like, but wait a minute,
if one Bitcoin is $30,000,
this is never going to be an actual currency because no one's going to give you a bitcoin
i would never buy anything with a bitcoin because the value fluctuates like crazy like
so this is really just another thing you can hide your money like you were saying you can just
it's another thing you can invest in but it isn't yeah i don't know currency well and also the people that like
stand to gain the most too are like people who are have got in really early and then can influence
other people to get in to start driving the price up and then when you know it's it's it there's a
lot i mean definitely not a pyramid scheme though i don't know what you're suggesting here no no no
definitely not definitely not but it's definitely one of those things where it's it's it's a it offers people
this idea that you can get rich very quickly and some have but that's just it's just enough of that
to allow many people to get like super duper invested or completely over leverage themselves
and the decentralized thing is cool like it's like got a cool idea at the
core of it that like could be used for good but that's not happening in modern america yeah well
that's the thing is it's like if it ever gets to a point where it could do that it'll just become
regulated right yeah i mean that's the problem it's like i love the concept when i first read
about bitcoin i was like fuck yeah power to the. You know, keep the banks out of it.
But if it actually starts to work, it will just become regulated and driven underground.
And then the only people using it will be using it to like hire hitmen and buy drugs and hookers.
You know what I mean?
Right.
That's just what happens.
If it's actually going to help people, it will be regulated out post-haste.
Right.
Exactly.
Like, whoa, what the fuck?
That's helping people no no no
we're off this shit completely but guys we do need to uh talk about peacocktober before uh we let you
go uh that's not crypto people october it's peacocktober oh is the it's the streaming service Peacock and they have given us Peacocktober and it's it's a horror thing
and they released Halloween Kills on it over the weekend it did Bofo BO you guys Bofo and
so that's that's good I always like when movies do well there's like a weird kind of political conversation
happening around it because the well first of all so this is part of a trilogy the next one's
called halloween ends and according to david gordon green who directed this trilogy and is
like but the vice principal is an eastbound and down guy and super talented uh but this net the
next movie will flash forward to modern times
and actually incorporate the pandemic
and all those politics.
And like, there's just been like all these political,
like Jamie Lee Curtis keeps talking about
how the first Halloween was about trauma
and the Black Lives Matter movement
and the Me Too movement.
And it's like, it could be, could be you know movies are complicated they're definitely
about the cultures in which they are like created and like get a lot of engagement from the people
watching them but like trying to prescribe that on there is just very you know she keeps talking
about how like there was an element of civil unrest in there, just like we're having right now. But that equates, first of all, she talks about it like being about police misconduct. The scene she's referring to is when one cop accidentally shoots and kills his partner while trying to take down Michael Myers. So not exactly the most scathing indictment of modern policing and the angry mob that i'm assuming because she
was making the statement before january 6th like during the black lives matter movement so
the angry mob that she is likening the black lives matter movement to like corner a guy who
is not actually michael myers and he ends up committing suicide as a result. So, like, that comparison's actually pretty fucked up and insulting.
But, like, then there's also this thing where the right wing is, like, jumping on it
and being like, well, Jamie Lee Curtis' character is a gun nut,
and so she's, like, actually proved that you need to be a gun nut.
Good lady with a gun.
Yeah, lady with a gun.
Michael Myers is able to come back and start killing people again because they've done away with capital punishment.
Literally.
Because the Walgreens are getting ransacked in San Francisco.
Michael Myers has come back.
Yeah, Michael Myers couldn't find a Walgreens to buy a new hockey mask and it filled him with rage.
He had no place to
put that rage.
And because he couldn't find
affordable therapy, which is
also a theme of this movie, a man
will literally put on a hockey mask and
murder people instead of going to therapy.
That's actually Shatner mask.
That's actually what I just said true.
So, you know, therapy.
Michael Myers escapes as the
inadvertent result of meddling by opportunistic journalists so which i don't know that seems
are they taking that like mistaken identity one two to be like uh like cancel culture you know
where they they they found the wrong guy where the angry mob went after the wrong guy. Yeah. It actually did remind me of that documentary,
Don't Fuck With Cats.
Sure.
Have you seen that?
Absolutely.
That is definitely a thing that happens on the internet.
Like there's a guy that everybody thought
was the Boston Marathon bomber.
And it ended up being just a guy who was missing
and ended up like was found dead.
But everyone was
like get him take him down and he was not the right guy and you know that sort of internet
vigilantism is very bad but like to it's just i feel like anytime you're talking about a movie
that you're making being like this is actually about bigger things and actually specifically
about this very important news story that like i probably shouldn't be touching or even talking
about because i'm just a you know actor right totally okay so she likened that scene specifically
black lives matter well that's insane you don't want to paint that as a frothing mob going after
wrong people.
And she also said it was actually a better document than an actual documentary when it comes to documenting trauma.
So, hmm.
Interesting vehicle to make those points.
Yeah.
Also, like, not everything has to mean something greater now. Like, honestly, we are in much need of just a dumb fucking movie about a guy with a knife
and everybody trying to escape that guy.
Like, I am so hungry for a movie
that there's no discussion afterwards.
Like, I'm so tired of reading,
let's have a discussion about this.
I don't want to have a discussion about this.
I want to watch a movie that we can all enjoy
and try to not kill each other in the streets.
That's what I want.
Just a dumb, fluffy movie.
Please, for the love of God.
And I think that's kind of what people were responding to and enjoying about it.
It's called Halloween Kills.
Right.
And apparently it's just a bunch of really cool kills of Michael Myers killing a bunch of people.
But then there's also these random random like kind of meaningful cultural commentaries
thrown in but they just like don't kind of tie together which is fine just i don't know it's
like look art is supposed to comment on things i get it but it's just like we're so oversaturated
with hot takes and think pieces and it's just like it's it's exhausting at some point yeah it'd be great if someone has like a film
that's like so like just kind of vague but allows people to just sort of project all kinds of
meaning on to be like this is amazing just for the director to be like nah dude it's it's literally
about this dog who like fell out of a van we literally just filmed a dog and uh he didn't
take any direction no matter how hard we
tried we just followed this dog around are you guys fucking serious it's a 90 minute shot of a
dog like going through trash and shit in central park that's all it fucking is and i was more of an
experiment on my end to see where the fuck y'all would take it because it's just a shot of a
fucking dog let's see where the dog digging through the trash, man?
Pause right there.
Pause right there.
Look, you can see an old Jet magazine peeking through this garbage bag.
Now, what's that saying about the decline of black America?
Do you see how his left ear sticks up and his right ear flops?
That's about the surge of leftist politics plaguing America right now as the right buckles and falls
and what about when he's humping that uh build a bear that's all dirty
i can lead you to water i can't make you do it you know like that's it's it's right there for
you yeah okay now i thought you understood the assignment kenny it's been such a pleasure having
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You know, listen, if there's one thing I've learned, I'm in the data selling
game, baby. That's where the money's at. That's where the money is at. And is there a tweet or
some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Man, I'm going to, you know, usually
when I do these on this show, I try to shout out somebody who's maybe not already super famous,
but Conan O'Brien really got me the other day. and he just said uh i did not realize that bottomless mimosas was describing
the deal and not the dress code my apologies to everyone at this airport
the goat
miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying man you can find me on
Twitter and Instagram
at miles of gray
and also the other show 420 day
fiance we're talking 90 day
fiance in an elevated way with
Sophie Alexandra so come through for that that's
always a good time a tweet that
I like I like two tweets let me rattle
them off the first one is from
at J pound sign just said
acid reflux is a choice.
IBS is a choice.
Pray more.
Hustle more.
That mentality.
I feel it sounds like something that someone would actually say in a
TikTok video.
Rise and grind, bro.
Spooky cold Fox at roast Malone underscore tweeted.
All dogs have their name and like 20 nicknames
that started as variations of their name,
but then spiraled out of control.
And that is so true.
I just think of all the, especially with my cats too,
like I call one cat Chicken and the other one Turkey,
but their name, one of them is Tiny
and the other one is called Bergy.
Anyway, that's been my TED Talk.
Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Shauna at Golden Gate Blonde tweeted this Wall Street Journal news alert.
This is how you'll cook salmon from now on.
And she tweeted, why did I just read this in Liam Neeson's voice?
This is how you'll cook salmon from now on just love a strong liam neeson voice
oh and then ariana rebelini tweeted thinking about the time i drunkenly spilled an entire
bowl of soup on my new macbook and then tried to tell the apple store it just broke out of nowhere
and then the guy had to look me in the eye and say, we opened it up and there's just so much soup in here.
Like chunks of carrots.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
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We link off the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Hey, Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy on this fine Thursday?
This is for the old folks out there.
You know that song?
Everybody, everybody.
Ow.
Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. Ow. out there you know that song everybody everybody ow so this is a remix from uh dj newmark you might
know him from a little group called jurassic vibe and just as a just a wonderful dj producer
as well as the bacow rhythm and steel uh steel drum band they kind of do covers of like modern
stuff but together they are doing a cover
of everybody everybody but with this like steel drum kind of like vibe so it's like way more
aggressive but it's just i don't know it's fun to shit to listen to so enjoy this one it's everybody
everybody dj newmark and the bacal rhythm and steel band
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