The Daily Zeitgeist - Raw Dog by Jamie LofTrend 5/25: Oathkeepers, Elon Musk, Diane Feinstein, MoviePass, Black Wolf, Top Hip-Hop Beats

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

In this edition of Raw Dog by Jamie LofTrend, Jack and Miles discuss the Oathkeepers founder being sentenced to 18 years in prison for sedition, Elon Musk dancing like no one is watching, the majority... of Californians thinking Diane Feinstein is unfit to serve, the re-re-resurrection of MoviePass, the baffling ridesharing app Black Wolf, and Spotify's horribly misguided Top 50 Hip Hop Beats list!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have
Starting point is 00:00:46 changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti
Starting point is 00:01:02 and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,
Starting point is 00:01:22 then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of Raw Dog by Jamie Loftrend. In stores now.
Starting point is 00:01:38 In stores now. Go get your copy. Yeah. I have never seen someone's voice so clearly just translate you you will read this and feel like you are listening to the best jamie loftus podcast it's so good yeah so excited for everybody to read it um and it is in bookstores now go check it out please it's called raw dog which is cool so you can like put it on your bookshelves it's like a a beautiful book so it'll look good on your bookshelves yeah it reads i mean yeah i i've man get your hands on it go support
Starting point is 00:02:11 local bookstores and support the god jamie loftus all right i'm jack that's miles yeah these are some of the things that are trending um the oath keeper founder was sentenced to 18 years in prison for the january 6th seditious conspiracy case yeah yeah the the judge was not having it was not not a fan of this of this guy oh didn't like that i mean if right before he was sentenced he was just saying shit like i'm a political prisoner i feel like I'm the lead character in Kafka's The Trial. Uh-huh. Yeah, I bet you do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:50 The judge said, you, sir, present an ongoing threat and peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy. Then they pointed out that he had said, they won't fear us until we come with rifles in our hands before the attacks and then after the attacks said his only regret was he should have brought rifles yeah and then he said you are not a political prisoner mr rhodes so the judge was just not having it at all his ex wife commented and was like yeah it's really really rich that he brings up kafka because he never fucking read kafka just to dunk on his ass oh he didn't have this shit on his bookshelf for fakies okay is that
Starting point is 00:03:33 the squid and the whale where the kid says kafka it's very uh he's like talking about a kafka book and he says it's very kafka-esque shit crack me up what is also that's what the fuck there's a movie it's not congo it's something where this guy's like this is kafka-esque and like this interrogator is like who is kafka did you say it's not congo i thought it was congo the movie with the killer apes yeah i thought because i believe that was supposed to be the follow-up to jurassic park man yeah what a disappointment i know i know the boy scoff got what the fuck man i thought i was so smart when i was reading those crichton books when i was like 12 and everything went right over you think jurassic park is good you gotta read sphere dude sphere is the for the real heads hell yeah
Starting point is 00:04:27 amy want raindrop drink it's so funny because that movie had like pop tents in it for the first time in media like those tents you can just throw out and they like self-built yeah and i was like holy shit and i remember like my dad knew somebody with one and he borrowed it and we camped in my backyard because like i want to sleep in a pop tent like out in the wilderness we did my backyard and like you know jack uh kids first camp out in the backyard it doesn't go the whole time i gave up on that shit around 2 a.m i was like can i go inside now i don't like this so anyway we actually just bought a tent from our neighbor's garage sale and there's been a lot of pressure to do a backyard camping night and i'm just like
Starting point is 00:05:14 i have to put this thing up and then you guys are gonna you're gonna hate you're gonna bail five seconds i think the first thing i need though is I need to get one of those portable little fire pit things. It's not a backyard camping evening without s'mores. Even though I don't like s'mores. Yeah. I think they're slightly overrated. They just don't hold together. No, because also you end
Starting point is 00:05:40 up fucking charring the fuck out of the house. And I know people have techniques. I'm sorry. I'm usually just not patient with something like that. I'm like, the fuck out of the out. And I know people have techniques. I'm sorry. I'm usually, I'm just not patient with something like that. I'm like, yeah, put in the fire. It's fucked up. The middle's still hard. And I'll pretend that this is why we're having fun.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Anyway, we digress. What else is trending? So the other night when we were supposed to do it, I was just like, I'll roast the marshmallows over the burner on the stove. And that shit just goes up in flames immediately um so yeah you gotta gotta be careful but i do have a pretty good technique when it comes to a campfire not to brag uh elon musk in addition to uh killing it on the uh political campaign launching front the man is good at launching things. It would seem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:25 He was caught on camera. People are like, is he on ecstasy? Uh, cause he's at like some club in Mexico dancing, I guess is what you would call it with his hands on his head. But this is, he just looks like a wounded bear
Starting point is 00:06:41 to me slash like an older man doing like, you know, when you see old people doing like, uh, like exercises in the pool. Oh no. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Oh God. It looks like when, like I was drunk and taking a piss publicly, he just got your hands like locked behind your head. He's like, what's this? I'm pissing everywhere. That's what it feels like.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That dance move is. Yeah. Oh man. That is fucking real, real sad. Why can't someone just like shove him over? Yeah. If you seem in public,
Starting point is 00:07:22 I'm sorry. You're obligated to be like, bro, you're a fucking herb. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here but again people are like but all these people around him are just like yeah man it's going down it's elon musk they're like go stink fuck it up go stink fuck it up get the fuck out of here but they're also like all dancing and then he's just kind of wobbling he's doing this shit like as if he's on the soul train line and he's the center of it like right as if he's like oh here
Starting point is 00:07:50 i come with this move and it's not even on beat for somebody who likes drugs as much as he does and likes music as much as he seems to he you really don't get that impression from this yeah he seems to be half asleep anyways uh elon musk not cool it turns out yeah uh majority of californians believe uh feinstein is uh not fit to serve a poll has found yeah um looks i mean with come on we've been saying this for like years now the second she was like thank you lindsey graham for helping me confirm brett kavanaugh i was like okay it's over guys yeah can we what was all that just do the like referee when somebody's been like punched out but still on their hand like the tko where you just like stand in between them and the
Starting point is 00:08:42 no and you just hold them. You hold them. Don't swing back. It's over. Don't worry. Don't let Chuck Schumer bully you. Into coming back to confirm judges. Because this is the fucked game we have. Where it's like.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Just the way the Senate is. We need the oldest ghouls here. Or else we lose. That is such an intimate moment. Between the boxing referee and the person who's just gotten knocked out yeah he's just like hold them you're all right hey babe okay hey you've been knocked the fuck out but you you're still on your feet it's okay if you gave him a little kiss right there it wouldn't seem out yeah out of the ordinary like yeah the boxer would be
Starting point is 00:09:21 mad probably like mouth ear to ear like Like, no, honey, no. Okay, you're all right. You're all right, baby. You're all right. That's like me when I pick up my baby, like, when he's crying. I'm like, I got you, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It's a little bit like. What's wrong? What's wrong? I know. I know. I know. I got you. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I got you. I got you. Don't I got any rights? Hey, don't I got i got yeah and then the boxer immediately is like what what did you do i was fine i got rights i got the right to be knocked out uh movie pass is still coming back dying coming back dying the rasputin of apps um so the resurrected uh i shouldn't say the a resurrected movie pass launches today this is you know one of many iterations launches today with four plans and a vague unlimited promise that you know we've been burned before miles right but it ain't happening again i need to know that you have an absolutely
Starting point is 00:10:25 backwards upside down business model for me to say i want in on this and watch i want to bleed out the company by being a member but yeah they say what's wild is they they're all of these plans are available except guess which two consequential markets for film you cannot use movie pass at the moment which markets jack what are the two biggest markets new york and la yes you cannot use them in nyc and southern california yeah um all right and it's like a very convoluted credit system so yeah yeah it's just a credit card oh i'm sorry okay so i'm sorry la and new york or southern california have completely different plans i think that's what it is you can only get this like weird unlimited plan out of it but anyway it's so fucking hard to understand
Starting point is 00:11:14 if you can decipher the credit system let us know yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do,
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Starting point is 00:13:29 When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from
Starting point is 00:14:11 its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre behind the mask. Listen to Lucha Libre behind the mask as part of my cultura podcast network on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you stream podcasts and we're back and finally a rideshare app for us miles yeah uh you know how we we're always talking on the show in private about how we just wish that ride share like our ride share drivers had guns yeah loaded weapons on them yeah um you know that that always makes me feel safer yeah yeah no there's a new ride sharing app called black wolf. It is like Uber, but with drivers who carry guns,
Starting point is 00:15:05 um, feels like it's for who mega probably. Oh, it's for people who have completely, who are like terminally on next door or like neighbor type apps where every like they live in a fucking war zone. Right. Um,
Starting point is 00:15:24 because I'm like, wait, what? In their marketing, though, in a Facebook post, what they did was show a fucking potential child abduction as to why you should use them. So I don't know. Again, this is for people who, I think there is a mindset that people are like, well, everyone should just have guns.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Right. So I guess this is for you, but I don't know you know right now i think it's only available in a couple places like i think yeah it's only available in new york and atlanta so it feels like it was made by people who watch fox news but don't live in new york or atlanta so they just like see the stories about how like the urban decay and everything's falling apart and it's so scary in these cities uh but like don't recognize that like people who live in the cities are just like guns are bad it yeah it
Starting point is 00:16:13 seems i don't want to fucking i don't want to be like hey man can i get the aux cable and next thing i know i got a fucking gun in my face right yeah you better not be playing rap. No rap, man. Oh, fuck. The thing we keep seeing is like drivers just shooting at each other. Yeah. Because they get a little bit annoyed or because somebody steps into their car and they're like a because a teenage cheerleader gets in their car. Yeah. This is going to end fucking terribly.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Oh, for sure. Anyone who actually necessitates armed security, they already have it. Yes, they're probably not. so this, this must be for like, who,
Starting point is 00:16:52 who's it for? Like who, who is wannabes who are like, I own a construction company and I'm a big dick. So I like to look like I have goons with me or some type shit, but teenage, like drug dealers. Oh yeah. Like if this was in LA, like all brentwood kids who like are wannabe drug dealers would be like you just pulled
Starting point is 00:17:10 up with the fucking arm driver bro yeah come outside black wolf dude i got some uh i got 300 xanax bars i stole from my mom's prescription bro come outside hey it's skylar yeah you got me okay cool and uh just wanted to make sure you have that thing on you that's not what I would say I'm saying I'm a professional security professional alright we're just going down the street to my friend Todd's house yeah but dude he like fucking
Starting point is 00:17:36 he shorted me like on this boat of like Molly and so like if shit goes left dude I need you to I need you to let that thing sing you know what I mean what I mean? What? I'm talking wet t-shirt contest, bro. Like, wet this dude.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Wet t-shirt contest. It's official. Spotify has come out with a list that is just irrefutably perfect. There's no outcast. Not a single outcast. There's not a single i didn't even bother to even check if the whole thing is so infuriating me infuriating to me no de la soul no beastie boys like those like it's it just seems like it's somebody who like just heard about rap music yeah and it's like Rich boys throw some D's? Is number 16 on this list?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Above Flava in your ear? Yeah. No. No, no, no. No. This is not right. They've got two RZA beats on here, I think. On the whole top 50. They don't have Triumph by Wu-Tang Clan on here.
Starting point is 00:18:43 They don't have Triumph. What istang clan on here they don't have triumph what is going on has the world gone fucking mad they have is cream and liquid swords which liquid swords isn't even the best beat on that album i don't think like there's wow okay i would say okay yeah look i don't mind i don't mind liquid swords being there because obviously we we evoke it all the time yeah because that's a minimum and feminine like sandals okay uh but like yeah it's a very it's like someone doesn't know who the seminal producers of hip-hop are because it's not it's not they're not represented here like i need to see like oh boy i would even put oh boy by cameron that's better than fucking throw some d's on it. Yeah. The things that... They also didn't have Notorious Thugs, which...
Starting point is 00:19:30 Armed and Dangerous! I know. That's a great beat. Things I got there, like, if you're only gonna pull one Kendrick beat, all they did was one Kendrick, which seems like an oversight. But Mad City,
Starting point is 00:19:45 I don't mind that. I don't mind that being the Kendrick beat. The fact that there's only one Kendrick song on here, and it comes in at 43 is a little crazy. Back That Ass Up, also missing. Those are things that you can play. Here's the thing. A litmus
Starting point is 00:20:02 test is for other beats, does the intro make people want to rip their heads off? Yes. Like, in a dance setting. Yes. Because when you hear, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, like, people are like, oh, yeah, I know what fucking time it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Time to throw it all around. But. So, their top five is Still Dre, which, that does pass the test you just described. Yeah. which that does pass the test you just described Shook Ones Part 2 passes the test and like it's just the most wrapped over
Starting point is 00:20:30 beat of all time Grinding, Eclipse Who Shot Ya by Notorious B.I.G would that be your biggie beat that you would put first? In top 4? I mean I don't know I don't know Again this is when I'm like who made this what's your
Starting point is 00:20:45 background like i need to see your hip-hop bona fides because this is this is wild to me like yeah i i mean who shot you is obviously a seminal track but there's so many good beats on life after death even yeah that yeah i don't know even like dead wrong is kind of a fire beat yeah oh there's so many great tracks. And that's like a, that's a posthumous Biggie track. Their first and only Kanye is Power, which like that, that doesn't, like the beat from that isn't even the thing,
Starting point is 00:21:17 the star of that. That's kind of the thing with like, they only have one Tupac and it's Ambitions as a Rider. Rider. Which, Rider. Ambition it's ambitions as a rider, um, right. Which right. Uh, ambition, ambitions as a rider,
Starting point is 00:21:29 a rider, get your, as a rider. Uh, we will get to the moon because we have ambitions as a rider. Um, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:40 like, I feel like they're glossing over like New York golden era. There's, there's, that should be represented way more. But again, this might be my old head shit coming in, but there's even New Migos shit that I think could get into the top 50.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Outkast isn't on there. There's not enough. A lot of Atlanta Erasure. Yeah. Erasure Crane. Is what I'm seeing here. Fucking Erasure. The band has a track on here.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah. They don't. They also don't have a Sugar Hill Gang, which feels like it needs to be on here. I mean, that is. That's seminal. You know what I mean? And feminine like sandals. It's seminal and feminine like sandals.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Oh, yeah. Brian's like Bodak Yellow. Yeah. Bodak Yellow could even be bodak yellow be a bodak yellow would have been a great choice the only new songs they have on here are like mask off which that that did kind of kick off the flute thing and like it's it works but then they have this other like the b side from mask off march madness like those are those are two songs that future performed on like the same snl like live set right and it's like yeah did you just find out about future like it when he was the musical guest on snl wow like only like female rappers on here is just one missy elliott track yeah there should be more missy dude fucking lil kim's tracks could be on what the fuck is this what is this there's some good shit on here
Starting point is 00:23:12 though like cell therapy obviously like that's a classic that's fine but i'm more focused on these like usurpers that have showed up on this list that's just a that That one there is a violation. Big Mama Thang by Lil' Kim should be on there. Whatever. This has been old millennials screaming about hip-hop. Yes. Alright. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this
Starting point is 00:23:38 Thursday, May 25th. We are back tomorrow. I'm out. Miles is back tomorrow with the chaos episode of all chaos episodes. Brittany and back tomorrow. I'm out. Miles is back tomorrow with the chaos episode of all chaos episodes. Brittany and Kevin chaotic. Thank you for pulling in a guest host last minute. I had lunch at my kid's school. How'd that go?
Starting point is 00:23:54 It was good. It was In-N-Out burger that comes through. What do you mean? So you just come and you steal the kids' school lunches? Yeah, they have an In-N-Out truck outside and you just buy the lunches ahead and the have like an in and out truck outside and you just like buy the buy the lunches ahead and the kids get in and out and i got my bought my two cheeseburgers but the line was too long so i didn't interject fashion you paid for something and i was salty as i'm just
Starting point is 00:24:18 gonna go the whole time just had my two stickers the whole time it's like not even getting care like whatever oh i'm glad you like it like because i didn't get one but oh is that good is that good i almost asked this kid if i could finish this burger because he was about oh my god and you're like you're not gonna tell anybody i just housed your burger are you i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding give me that what give me that this little kid's so confused you're like come on i think you should leave right like i'm fine this guy gets it this guy gets it it's a kid in like a hot dog costume they're like what oh by the way the trailer for season three dropped. I love that the trailer is devoid of any context.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So you cannot get your head around what any of the sketches are really about. It's just pure fucking chaos. Like tomorrow's episode. Yeah. Tomorrow's episode is like the I think you should leave trailer. Yeah. Except podcast form. It's just madness, people screaming.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Also, they have a basketball hoop on the kids' playground that I'm pretty sure is 11 feet. What? It's the highest basketball hoop I've ever shot. Are you just saying that because you told them you
Starting point is 00:25:33 could grab a rim? I missed a bunch of shots. Pretty embarrassing. I can grab a rim, watch this, and you go, you missed terribly. Like, what is this? Could I get a clap going,
Starting point is 00:25:43 actually? Could I get a clap going actually could i get a clap going it's get the fucking tape measure out this is bullshit this ain't regulation height man i know i could grab rim what the fuck is this one of the teachers i was like that that seems high right hey let me see that yeah i think it's like 10 feet i was like no but 10 feet is a stamp. Bunch of amateurs. Anyways. Also, like, Miss Fat Booty by most depth should be on there. Is that on there?
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah, that should be on there. And that, I don't believe I saw that. People, again, shame, whatever. I don't even, I wonder if, like, an algorithm made this fucking list. And it's, like, based off of whatever. I can't stop. Look, I gotta, I gotta kid me. I got a lot of
Starting point is 00:26:25 tables man i can't put my energy into this shit you feel me all right uh back tomorrow until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get the vaccine don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to y'all tomorrow bye I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making
Starting point is 00:27:21 of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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