The Daily Zeitgeist - rBezos Bested By Billionaire, Gold Medal For Discrimination! 7.6.21

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

In episode 944, Jack and Miles are joined by Left Handed Radio's Anna Rubanova to discuss the Sha'Carri Richardson missing the Olympic 100 because of a positive marijuana test, Richard Branson going t...o space before Jeff Bezos, Norway's new influencer law, and more!FOOTNOTES: Marijuana’s racist history shows the need for comprehensive drug reform Rising U.S. Track Star Sha’Carri Richardson Tests Positive for Marijuana, Could Miss Tokyo Olympics Richardson will miss Olympic 100 after marijuana test RICHARD BRANSON: MY SPACE FLIGHT IS BOOKED ... 9 Days Ahead of Bezos!!! Norway Law Forces Influencers to Label Retouched Photos on Instagram LISTEN: DJ ST THOMAS - 323 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devon Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of the Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Join us as we break down each episode, interview challengers, and take you behind the scenes of this iconic season. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 192, episode one of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say up top fuck all those faith-based health care plans they tried to advertise on our show so this is how we deal with that it's tuesday july 6th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. While Miles rolls a fat blunt,
Starting point is 00:02:50 Jack is tracking UFOs. Don't you remember? We built this podcast. We built this podcast, the Daily Zeitgeist. That is courtesy of Brackish Joker. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Ain't nothing but TDZ, baby.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Two chugged out homies going crazy. Our heart is the label that pays, man. Second race, so please don't try to hate this. And that is from RavioliGod on the Discord. Art is the label that pays, man. Second race. So please don't try to hate this. And that is from RavioliGod on the Discord. And thank you for reminding us it ain't nothing but a G thing because it truly is not anything but. Ain't nothing but a TDZ thing. Right?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Wait, would you be caught wearing a shirt like that? I don't think so. That would be so appropriate so sad oh no well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by uh first of all very patient uh we appreciate that because there's been tech issues out the gate non-stop from my end but also a very funny comedy writer and improviser who has been making the original sketch comedy podcast left-handed radio since 2010 she's also a senior producer at forever dog please welcome anna rubinova hi guys thank you for having me i didn't realize this was a singing podcast But I am prepared to sing
Starting point is 00:04:28 Let's do it Which Bernadette Peters song would you like to hear today? I guess your choice Something from Annie? Dealer's Choice We won't make you sing unless you really want to Wow, you're going for the movies yeah let's just let's just annie uh guys we'll we'll forget i ever mentioned it huh
Starting point is 00:04:52 so it's good anna where where are you coming to us from i'm coming to you from sunny Los Angeles, California, USA. Hey, yeah. The palm trees today look frizzled. The sky is a beautiful gray. Oh, wow. I think that means there's smog or dust or something. It might explain a lot of breathing problems. But yeah, just another gorgeous
Starting point is 00:05:27 day in reality where did you grow up i grew up in new york okay and then how do you heard of that yeah so it's not just a rumor but that place it's a real place huh uh is that what's what's it like being from new york and now you know living in most, you know, being a New Yorker and then being in California? I'm always curious to see. There's always varied takes on that experience. I am so happy I'm here and not there, except for this summer. This summer, I feel like I would have rather been there. But we moved here in 2016 before the election.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Right. So if we had to have lived through Trump in New York, I think we would have been in a really bad mental place, which I mean, the sun really helped. And if you live in New York, you understand this. Like once winter comes, everything feels like it's over. like once winter comes, everything feels like it's over. Like you have to, you have like, you've missed your opportunity. You squandered the year and now you have to plan for how you're going to come back in the spring and summer and fall. In LA, you have the benefit of patience and like, okay, so like, you know, it was a nice day today. It was 80 degrees. That's okay. Tomorrow it'll be a nice day, 80 degrees. It's okay. I can have fun then. I didn't miss out. And I think that was very helpful for my brain, which as you can tell, is a little messed up. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Sounds good on my end. Great. Thank you. I appreciate that. Not a day goes by sorry so you're not at the point in your la life where you start fetishizing uh the winter and missing the winter and stuff like that that usually comes around like 10 years in oh no it's only been five so when that happens i don't know if winter will exist in the world. But that's a good point. Yeah. At that point, I think we'll all have like really wonderful like VR AirPods or something that will replicate, you know, the despair of winter accurately. And I think we'll be okay. Right. Sorry, there's now like yard work going out going on outside so that's that is perfectly appropriate it's called texture and we love it
Starting point is 00:07:53 on the daily zeitgeist miles i meant to uh tell you that my five-year-old is now i think heading in the direction that you ended up in where he because he's never around winter like just in the past couple weeks he started like only wanting to read stories about winter there's like a avengers story with frost giants and like all it's one page of like this one children's book that he has and he like asks me about them every day so like he's he's gonna get the very particular type of uh la sickness yeah born out of this dry desert you all you want to do is wear jackets because it seems like exotic clothing to you right don't you guys go to big bear lake or whatever yeah but that's like for like a one-off you know like you don't get
Starting point is 00:08:44 like sustained periods where like you have to know like you don't get like sustained periods where like you have to wear like a scarf and things like that and every person i know who comes from the east coast like you don't want that you don't want that and i'm like well yeah part of me actually doesn't want to be hot all the time either so you know too much of too much of one thing can be bad the other thing people forget about new york is when it's hot it's so hot you can't live right it's 98 degrees and humid and like last time i was i was back home i had to take a full day off for exhaustion which had never happened to me i was i got excited i i um i went i went back and i started like walking everywhere you You know, I was walking places I didn't have to just back and forth, back and forth because I could. And the next day I had to cancel all of my appointments and I had to lie down on a couch for a bit.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So standard. New York in the summer is very bad for sweaty people. I would like need to bring a change of clothes everywhere I went. It was real. It was bad. I sweat through entire suits, not just the shirt part. Yeah, not good. And you also have to have a backpack full of bricks because that's New York.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah, that's important. All right. And we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about on the show today. We are going to talk about Sha'Carri Richardson, who failed a weed test. And because of that, might miss the Olympics? Because that's a, I don't know. is that a performance enhancing drug i don't think so no but they yeah they they decided to make it a problem so it is a problem i guess uh norway has passed a law that requires social media posts to be marked if they are altered this seems like somewhat quaint to me like the idea that we could legislate our way out of the hell that we have created online but i do like that bezos the the big news of course uh is heading into the holiday weekend which is when we're recording this is that bezos is going to lose the billionaire space race
Starting point is 00:11:03 unless he can pull off some sort of you know sabotage which yeah he he took a big l richard branson's gonna beat him richard branson looks like a like he's drawn into a comic book like i was just realizing that. Having to look at photographs of him so often. He really does not look like a real human being. He looks like he's in a 90s era Batman comic book or something. All of that, plenty more. But first, Anna, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Well, recently, there are a few things, but the one I'm going to go with is I wanted to see what other people thought of the movie Zola because I watched it and I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And I and I. When I do when I do like a movie, when I don't like a movie, I don't really care what people think. But when I do like a movie, I want to know. Am I right? Am I right I right yeah please confirm my bias please tell me because it is a you know it's um it's very funny and very scary and very I'm sure a lot of people are gonna find controversy with it you know there's a lot there it's it's about sex work and you know like violence but also it's a comedy you know so i i was just like i really thought it was well done so i wanted to to know and i think uh i think it might have been the atlantic yeah they said it was
Starting point is 00:12:39 great there it is so i'm right and everybody else is wrong i mean it seems like it's been getting a lot of good coverage from what i've seen i haven't seen much where i think people will maybe point to saying that oh it's controversial maybe because of the subject matter but it seems like everything was i've read really positive stuff about the film are people gonna be saying like, is it even considered pretentious to say I actually read the Twitter thread and I liked the Twitter thread better? That could be where we're headed. If you read the Twitter thread, it is the movie. I think it's mostly based on the article about the Twitter thread, which gives me pause because I'm worried that the rights to the movie were based on the article, which might mean that King didn't get as much money. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I hope that's not true. I made that up just now. That's just a worry that I have. Right. I mean, she seems to be all over the like premieres and stuff and participating. So, yeah, which makes me think that she got paid, which is great. But I mean, people know what this is, right? But it was a Twitter thread that told a wild story
Starting point is 00:13:56 like five years ago. And then somebody optioned it for a screenplay or optioned the article about it, which I agree. Why not just option the, the, the writing in the, in the Twitter thread was pretty incredible. Great storytelling.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Is that, is that out like in theaters now or. Yeah. Yeah. It just came out. I, I, I saw it on Wednesday and I,
Starting point is 00:14:21 it might be the first and last movie I see in theaters, depending on how this Delta variant thing goes. Right. But, you know, there were like six people in the auditorium. I did not care for that. I mean, it's great for social distancing, but I was like worried, like, is anyone going to see this movie?
Starting point is 00:14:37 My partner and I were laughing most of the way through. Nobody else was. I was like, okay, what's going on i mean people are just shy too and if you know if the theater is unpacked and there's not like a nervous giggle it's not gonna reverberate through and we're not we're just like yes ha ha ha that's good ha ha technically funny ha ha you know it's like funny like succession funny which Ha! You know, it's like funny, like succession funny, which, I mean, you know, Nick Braun is in both, and he plays the exact same character.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So if you like that kind of humor, which, you know, a lot of people do. Not everybody, but a lot of people do. You'll like this, I think. He's Cousin Greg? He's 100% Cousin Greg, yeah. And then in this, he's like Cousin Greg, but a drug dealer, right?
Starting point is 00:15:25 No, no, no. He just plays the hapless boyfriend of in the movie. She's called Stephanie in real life. I think it's Jessica. Right. And he just tags along. I don't know how it compares to real life, but in the movie, he doesn't know what's going on. He's always hanging on to her and going like is everything okay like you're just here to dance right like where are you what's going on he gets you know slapped around a bit a real doofus a real loving doofus yeah yeah a real loving doofus who nobody else loves back what a niche richard brody from the new yorker gave it a nine out of ten so that's pretty pretty good yeah this is hey maybe i should write for the new yorker yeah yeah you should be like i'm just looking at some of the i'm just comparing some of my takes with your i'm i'm doing i'm saying the same stuff here, so when do I start?
Starting point is 00:16:27 What is something you think is overrated? Okay, so I told you I'm not big online, or whatever the kids say. I'm not big online. I just picked a silly answer. I think bread is overrated, and I want you to fight me over it.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Well, hold on. Fight for it. Fight for it first. Let me know what we're up against. It's overrated and I want you to fight me over it. Well, hold on. Fight for it. Fight for it first. Let me know what we're up against. It's overrated. I dropped it. I said bread. Bread's overrated.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Go. I know everyone loves sandwiches and wraps and toast. Fuck that. Wow. Have you tried potatoes? Have you tried potatoes? Have you tried rice? Have you tried root vegetables or corn or porridge?
Starting point is 00:17:12 Fuck bread. End of story. Let's say you to the people who say, well, what about sandwiches? You're just saying, well, fuck sandwiches altogether because they involve bread. Yeah, fuck sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Oh, wow. Whatever's in the sandwich, have it with, I don't know. Porridge. Porridge. Have it with fries. Have it with mashed potatoes. Let me get my cold cuts of porridge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I am going to back this, back that specific observation that sandwiches are much much more fuck up a bowl they they get fucked up a lot because the bread is like such an important like contingent and it's so easy to like it's so often bad that yeah like well have a hamburger patty chopped up over rice or french fries or whatever you want. Wait, so wait, Jack, you're saying you're abandoning sandwich culture right now, here and now? This is where you've arrived? I've just had a run of bad sandwiches, Miles. I'm not going to take any blame for this.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I'm just going to say, I recently had a buffalo cauliflower wrap and I love buffalo cauliflower. And I also ate a like serving of buffalo cauliflower that was just like a side of buffalo cauliflower that my wife had brought home for herself. And I ate it without realizing it was for her. And then she was like, no, I got you the sandwich. So I also ate the sandwich. And the sandwich was so much worse than the side. It was like no i got you the sandwich so i also ate the sandwich and the sandwich was so much worse than the side it was like wet it was like they had just like put the dregs of the buffalo cauliflower like batch in there it was like mostly like breading separated from the
Starting point is 00:18:59 cauliflower and it had wet lettuce in there and it's just like they just sandwiches get away with too much shit i'm not saying that i don't like sandwiches i'm saying sounds like sandwiches i'm just saying that sandwiches are too easy to fuck up i need a solid recommendation uh if i'm gonna go in for a for a sandwich i'm not just gonna assume that you're going to make a good sandwich yeah if the bread is good it's great but fuck bread i thought hold on we have to be not just going to assume that you're going to make a good sandwich. Yeah. If the bread is good, it's great. But fuck bread.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I thought, hold on. We have to be, we have to be intellectually consistent here, but I said, I am, I am miles. I am.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Okay. Overrated. Overrated. Fuck it. Because everyone thinks it's the meal. It's a be all end all. Yeah. And this is not just because Adam brought a bunch of bread home and I was like, I said I don't want bread. This is not because of that.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah. Why are you saying that, Miles? That's not where this idea came from. And any suggestion thereof is... Slander. I stand with sandwiches. I always will. And, you know, I won't let a couple, I won't let a couple, you know, you know, reckless sandwiches completely turn me off from the experience of experiencing true sandwich love.
Starting point is 00:20:19 OK. All right. I'm just a guest here. I mean, that's very basic thinking. That's what I would expect. You know, I've just I've here. No, I mean, that's very basic thinking. That's what I would expect. You know, I've just, I've moved beyond sandwiches, man. I'm beyond it. I live in a post-sandwich reality.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Jack, he'll figure it out or he won't, you know. Let him do him. Yeah. Everyone's on their own journey. Everyone has to walk their own path. That's his journey, not ours. Yeah. Yeah. But like Bon Wee, Miles, that's a little sandwich shop right around the corner from where we work they specialize in bread
Starting point is 00:20:50 and their bread is fucking great like that's the sort of place that i'm going for a sandwich i am not going to like just any place and and letting them think they can make me a sandwich can you imagine that attitude you're in a fucking deli or something. You're like, first of all, can you tell me why I should trust you? No, like, fuck the menu. Why should I trust you, first of all, with my sandwich experience? Because if this is fucked up, I'm going to lose it in here. I said a turkey and cheese.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I said nothing about the bread asshole give me loose turkey and cheese on that deli paper I want a whole turkey and I want a whole cheese just that big block one of your cheeses sir Anna what is something you think is underrated
Starting point is 00:21:42 oh gosh science I think science is underrated? Oh, gosh. Science. I think science is underrated. Even in circles where we might constantly say something like, believe science, believe in science, I believe science, especially around COVID. I think we forget that everything around us is science currently. I'm talking to you because of science i had hot water this morning because of science even fire is science and uh yeah i think it's just like people if you're on that whoa what what about science just because some people told
Starting point is 00:22:19 you this you're saying we zoom out a bit and think of the millennia of experiences from learned people and experimentation that has delivered us to this moment and based off the strength of that you should fuck with science and again you know there's good science there's bad science there's poorly researched science you know science even this isn't bread so so there's nuance here. But it is underrated because we don't think about it enough, I think. We just take for granted everything that happens around us day to day. And we don't usually, you know, they say stop and smell the roses. Like, stop and look around you and notice that whether you're in a good situation or bad, it's because of science.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Stop and smell the Wi-Fi, bro. Yeah. Stop and smell the Wi-Fi. Take a whiff of these semiconductors. There you go. I just, you know, like I said, I'm going to be, I'm not online. I don't know what the kids are saying. No, they're saying this.
Starting point is 00:23:27 They're saying we love bread and we don't like science. And I think we've kind of nailed it for sure. Yeah. I wrote down you like headache medicine. Science. Boom. That's true. I do. We are. We do exist on like the shoulders of billions and billions of like brilliant advances and things people had to like live and die for like in in the scientific world and we just take it completely for granted because
Starting point is 00:23:53 if we didn't we wouldn't be able to we'd just be running around being like whoa all the time but i mean you know even whoever whoever the lady was who tapped a tree and realized it helped with pain or whatever. Yeah. They invented aspirin. You know, like whoever realized that, like, you know, you add some grains and liquids to a tub, it turns into beer eventually and learned how to repeat that. Scientist. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Fuck. I mean, also, hey, bread, too. Bread is science. Bread. Bread is a product of science, but fuck bread. It's overrated. Yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Consistent. I like it. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance.
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Starting point is 00:27:53 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. more the story of one strange and violent summer this is rip current available now with new episodes every thursday listen on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and so are the olymp. Apparently they're still happening, still coming up.
Starting point is 00:28:47 No matter what. Doesn't seem like it. But the Olympics, taxes and death. The things that we will never escape. But the Olympics are coming and probably the athlete I think most people were expecting to be like the Michael Johnson of these Olympics, Sha'Carri Richardson. Like she's a track and field superstar from America who was like, you know, top two, top three favorites to win the 100 meter dash, become the fastest woman in the world. And she has now been suspended from that race because she smoked weed. Yep. She tested positive for THC in a test that she took a few days after the qualifiers.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And, you know, again, according to the World Anti-Doping Agency, it's banned during in competition periods. These are the laws and the timeframe that begins at 1159, the day before the competition starts. And like they, they say like you have a certain amount, but up until that window, the rules change. And this, so she popped on this test and now because, you know, the, the U.S. Track and Field Association goes with the same. They're signatories to the World Anti-Doping Agency, like charter and shit, that they enforce these laws as well. So that for the U.S. side, the penalty can be anywhere from one month to a two year ban. But so in the most if she doesn't appeal and let's say they give her one month, her ban would technically end right before
Starting point is 00:30:26 like the, the track events start. But the thing is because she tested positive, that means her qualifying time is negated. So she is not going to be running in the 100 meter just individual race. So that means alternates, the people who are now the fourth place finisher has moved on to the team and the fifth place person has now become an alternate from the qualifiers. And the best right now, as it stands, the only chance she has is to participate in the four by one relay because the track association is able to select people to participate in that. So this is like really this is just completely fucked up. The things that I think a lot of people remember from her qualifying win was just her words about everything she had gone through to arrive at this moment i'd be having the support of her family that her biological mother had passed away days before
Starting point is 00:31:14 the thing is she was told by a reporter a reporter that her biological mother passed away that's how she found out and that was when she went and, you know, enjoyed some weed or whatever, just to, you know, deal with hearing this from some other person just out of the blue. And now she's looking at completely losing her shot at participating in the Olympics. And it's just so fucking dumb.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Like, I get that the rules are the rules, but this is just such this like anti weed stuff. It's like our prohibition on marijuana is just so built around this pseudoscientific racist nonsense. Because let's be real, it's not a performance enhancing drug. The only fucking performance it's enhancing is like you watching a clip of Santana on YouTube or some shit. Or like if you play a guitar, you're not seeing the matrix in a track race. And now your fucking muscles are working overtime. So it's just like really disheartening and just sort of underlines is how
Starting point is 00:32:12 behind we are in so many ways. Or if you're hosting a podcast about 90 day fiance, I should, I should chime in on your behalf there, but that's not an Olympic event yet. It. Yeah. It's truly baffling like alcohol is not a like if i guess you can't test for alcohol but it's not a banned substance and other than your coach
Starting point is 00:32:36 probably telling you not to do it because it's not going to make you faster and i would assume marijuana is the same way that's it's really strange but not strange i guess to be expected based on like the history of racism around marijuana and the present racism around marijuana yeah i mean it's we we always talk about it as as past tense of you know why marijuana was banned in the first place you know know, anti-Black, anti-Mexican sentiments and all that. And it's like where we have not even scratched the surface of, you know, the constant stigma that's still associated with it. I watched a short clip of her saying, you know, like, this isn't I'm still young. I'm going to I'm'm gonna figure it out.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I still have a lot of races ahead of me, you know, to that effect. And I'm just gonna, I'll be back, you know? Yeah. Gosh, I, it's so fucked up in every single way. And I just constantly feel like everyone who speaks out about it says a thing and then nothing happens. You know, like we'll, we'll weigh in, we'll, we'll throw in our two cents and go like, yeah, this is like, this is clearly, you know, discrimination and they're, and they're picking on people and it's, but then nothing happens. Like we, we all know, we all know the facts. We all know this isn't a performance enhancing drug. We all know why it was banned in the first place. We know why alcohol was unbanned, you know, or maybe not. Like, sometimes that gets murky, you know, like prohibition ends because of, you know, pressure from probably some corporate shit. And there's just not enough of it here right or it's cultural different people right like it's it's just fucked up in every way and i'm sorry that i'm ranting and all i can do
Starting point is 00:34:30 is curse about it but well no i mean it's just it's frustrating because you look at somebody who is performing to the best of their abilities you know what it means to them and then for them to just get caught up in these relics of racist just nonsense to fuck up your chances to represent the fucking country you'd think like yeah this country's so focused on winning they'd like shut the fuck up cares if you're smoking weed this person's gonna win the fucking gold medal in the 100 meters and that's what we're about to put our best athletes out there but you still there's still this like this we're still so intertwined with these backwards laws and i don't know why you know again we're not having i mean we are having
Starting point is 00:35:11 this conversation but the powers that be aren't because i think at the end of the day you realize that they're not interested in understanding what is equity or what is actually fair or not they're probably taking this they like having mechanisms of suppression they like having that in place they like have they they like playing that dumb game of chess that they think they're playing where they're outsmarting everybody and we all can see through it it's just that they're still in power and they could still make they make the rules and change them at will so you know if a certain person is caught you know having an affair it can be a huge scandal if if trump well i mean i don't know the whole cosby thing it's like oh 35 women came out against
Starting point is 00:35:54 him and still it was overturned so like it's the rules just apply 20s yeah trump is in the toys like the rules just don't fucking apply as long as you have the money to support or or the or just the power structure it it makes absolutely no sense the olympics are are also just you know straight trash yeah and and also to have that reporter question this athlete and go like you know are like are you gonna apologize like what are you gonna do like how do you feel how do you how do you know tell us about how you disappointed everybody whatever like you know she's going home and drinking a boxed wine after that like everyone or like taking whatever pills her doctors prescribed her and because those are legal she's fine and this
Starting point is 00:36:46 girl smoked weed in a legal state after finding out on the day that she's competing either right like marijuana stays in your system for a bit okay yeah and that's such a good point fucking reporter like probably yeah and it is really frustrating to see like the way it's being covered by the media the ap like unquestioningly just be you know uh the and then it almost feels like she is she's like okay yeah i own what i did i made a mistake and like i'll be i'll bounce back but like it's just like why why why isn't anyone saying the obvious thing that this is fucking tear this shit down? Tear this shit down. She didn't make a mistake.
Starting point is 00:37:30 She I would say she's practicing self-care in a tough in a in a tough situation. Right. And taking care of herself while she's dealing with all this, you know, familial and mental stress. Yeah. While she's dealing with all this, you know, familial and mental stress. Yeah. With all of the pressure, the full pressure of her being this star athlete that's going to go represent a country that barely respects her. That's a lot of pressure.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And if all you do is smoke a little weed. Holy shit. Yeah. Like how how strong are you to just, you know. Yeah, I think. yeah like how how strong are you to just you know yeah i think and it's yeah it's it's only a mistake in this narrow stupid context of being an athlete and all these weird fucking rules that they have that let's face it or mostly we're seeing you know athletes of color be punished for these kinds of things so it makes you frustrated on so many levels because at the end of the day this is a human being who like you have to allow people to have the you know latitude to fucking take care of themselves or whatever i get it and and especially in a context that isn't running afoul of local laws
Starting point is 00:38:37 or putting anyone in danger so really what who is this protecting and i think that the way that you know jack like you're saying the ap is going to be like yeah well they violated the laws without being like yeah but hold on what the fuck are these laws though like what is what are these regulations for and notice she had to say that in her in her quote apology i am a person i am a human being right like right i i'm obviously paraphrasing but she's like remember i'm not you'm not, you know, I'm, I'm a human. Firstly, not a superhero, but also not your, you know, not yours to do with what you please. Like, I'm not, I'm only here because someone pushed me in front of the camera and told me I had to be sorry for this, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Right. Otherwise I want to run. Yeah. run yeah like yeah it doesn't even seem legal to be honest because you can you really punish somebody for some for for doing something legal days before a performance enhancing yeah i'm sure this is going to evolve over the you know in the next few days because you know she can appeal and i'm sure that would be a reason to say like i don't know what do you do you know you want to see somebody run hot like faster because they're high or whatever like i don't know what that means also i'm going through things can you
Starting point is 00:39:54 extend some empathy towards me also these laws are nonsense so what are we doing here but yeah i mean i think i mean the public is definitely like outraged because they see this for what it is. And like, I think for most people now, you know, the majority of society is like, what's the problem with someone smoking weed? Like, what are we talking about here? We're not all our, you know, sixth grade teachers from like the 90s who are like, oh, don't ruin your life. And maybe the silver lining here is that she will maybe be a trailblazer in that way. You know, maybe she is the test case. Maybe she will turn it all around because of public opinion and because of the situation here.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I think, I hope that she will come out of this stronger and more powerful and more successful because of her situation and and how she's handling it right it's still not fair but i hope that is the outcome that she you know gets a book deal gets a movie deal gets all these statues you know like that might be the outcome it's just not it shouldn't have happened. And it shouldn't be happening to everybody in similar situations. And like that is hopefully a silver lining that people recognize that this shouldn't be a fucking rule. But at the same time, like this is somebody who trains their whole life to compete for these nine seconds and which is insane that she can do it in nine seconds but uh like and and to have that taken away from them is just so fucking cruel that's unbelievable yeah and what's also this idea of like the substances being banned
Starting point is 00:41:41 comes from like this paternalistic sort of perspective like well we're looking after the athletes too like what's best for them but it's like well they have a lot more shit on there if Substances being banned comes from like this paternalistic sort of perspective. Like, well, we're looking after the athletes, too. Like, what's best for them? But it's like, well, they have a lot more shit on there if you're purely interested in the health of the athletes, because it doesn't look like that. And it just rings hollow. So, you know, I honestly I hope that they realize they need to carry Richardson at these Olympics, you know, even though, you know, fuck the Olympics. They're such a tortured event, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:07 I, I hope you can run. She carry. That's a great wrap up of this topic. Yeah. All right. Let's talk real quick about something that I think we can take a little solace in is that Jeff Bezos feels a little shitty today.
Starting point is 00:42:22 That was even tinier, a little tiny, little tiny man. So Jeffff bezos uh you know had announced hey i'm i'm going to space and like touching it real quick and then coming back on june or july 20th and the rumors immediately started that richard branson was like hell no and uh decided that he had to be the first one and like scrambled scrambled his like billionaire jets to like get everything together to go before him so now branson is going to be flying july 11th nine days before bezos i just hope that this like keeps going bezzos is like, I'm going tomorrow!
Starting point is 00:43:05 And then they just all go up in flames. Yeah. That'd be cool. I remember that first video came out with Bezos saying, I'm going to be the first commercial flight with my clone brother that
Starting point is 00:43:21 you only have him around to harvest his organs. Or maybe he's my brother. I don't know. know and then yeah richard branson just came through and also he had he just put out this video announcing he's like guess what asshole i'm beating you by nine days to space to be the first loser to fucking ignore the the problems of the planet i live on for a quick ego hit. But he put out this video and it's like, it's way better than Jeff Bezos is and more in the sense that it has the slickness and the production
Starting point is 00:43:54 value. I remember when you would fly Virgin America and that pre-flight safety video they used to do that was like the full-on musical and shit. We're like, we're going in the skies. We're doing it right. And people were doing the robot and like people are like doing the robot like club lighting in the place yes this is the swag of the branson video and i just want to play a clip of it because like it's done in this way that is such a aggressive fuck you to jeff bezos
Starting point is 00:44:18 because like it's more than just saying he's going to space so first it starts off where it's like talking about like there's two pilots and then first it starts off where it's like talking about like there's two pilots and then three astronauts and it's done and like really the lighting is amazing it looks like like monday night football like these towering figures like looking very heroic and i just love the reveal when we get to richard branson because he's just oh he's just owning the moment evaluating cabin procedures during boost so these are intros to the different astronauts. Branson looks like a hero. Woo!
Starting point is 00:45:02 As the Virgin Galactic founder, I am so proud to have this remarkable crew of mission specialists and pilots by my side as we fly to space. I've always been a dream. All right, it goes on. It does the other thing, but I just love that they were counting down
Starting point is 00:45:18 Astronaut 003, Astronaut 002, and then the fucking 001. She's like, fuck you, Jeff. I'm Astronaut 002. And then Ash the fucking 001. Fuck you, Jeff. I'm astronaut 001 out here. Dick Branson. Do something. Also, he's got all his hair. I love the Bruce Springsteen energy of it all.
Starting point is 00:45:38 You know, the music is so on point. It's so retro, but so futuristic. You know? Yeah, exactly exactly it's truly amazing like the the balls because like these are all astronauts who have earned their way there like through doing like astronaut things and science things the things that get you into space and then when it gets to first of all making himself astronaut zero zero one but also the video like does a slow like move up his body as he's like walking into the room
Starting point is 00:46:11 like the other ones are just like hi it's me hi it's me hi it's me and then it's like like he he rolls in like it's fucking schwarzenegger in that like bad to the bone scene like they're like fetishizing him like going like toad ahead like slow pan up and then he's like yeah yeah yeah for sure and Chuck Norris oh yeah classy Chuck
Starting point is 00:46:35 space roll call me I build rockets and me I shoot lasers and me I'm rich. We finally did it! Obama is my friend.
Starting point is 00:46:54 You're like, okay, and? And I will be going to space. I love how he still even, look, at the end of the day, he's still just like, and I'm here to make sure that the experience for you, the customer, is going to be like, and I'm here to make sure that the experience for you, the customer is going to be like, this dude is still a salesman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I'm the number one person on this spaceship because I'm here to make sure you'll be here and happy. Right. Yeah. Must have a deposit of $150,000. Hey, that's not bad. Y'all want to pitch in? Yeah. Crowd. Must have a deposit of $150,000. Hey, that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Y'all want to pitch in? Yeah. Crowdsource it. Also, he, like, is charming in the video, which is, like, I think that is a flex. He's showing off his hair. He's got his hair, you know, in full effect. Could you imagine they went in?
Starting point is 00:47:44 That's such a power went in they were like yeah here's a here's a like a microscopic video of richard branson's scalp it's impeccable your move bezos and it's like oh you think they'll do like a mr show like back and forth like now there's gonna be another video for bezos where he has even bigger hair and like the the space suits are even a brighter blue right and the music rocks a little bit harder right only for richard branson to be like and to introduce me to space is migos and it's like a live performance wait what yep and then bezos comes back i got beyonce she's coming to space with me oh fuck that would fuck mr branson up she's astronaut zero he's like he gave it oh sorry you thought astronaut one was
Starting point is 00:48:37 it no no we got zero and oh hell yeah man i mean this is this is our reality though you know it's like we live in just a giant the globe is a vanity project for these just infinitely vain and wealthy humans yeah yeah they watched all of those movies from like the 80s and 90s about how bad you know rich people are like you know like dead zone or robocop or you know total recall or um running man and they were like all of that please today but i bet in their mind they're like yeah but the difference is i'm not gonna wear a suit like those bad guys did so i'm different i. I wear jeans. And you're like, okay, and? Indeed. That is the sound that sums up that story.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Can I take back science? Can I take back science as underrated? If these jokers are just fucking around with it. I'm just going to be sitting here eating bread and crying. Cancel this podcast episode. Also, the picture that they like the, you know, sitcom publicity still of the of all the astronauts hanging out. He's got his arms around the two women. I noticed.
Starting point is 00:50:01 So, you know, it's just like it's Branson, baby. It's a likes to make everything sexy. I didn't see the end of that video. Does he jump out of a window? Does he crash through it and then fly away in a jetpack? Yeah. Goodbye. All right.
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Starting point is 00:54:34 like to try and stop like deep fakes and like you know or like political like altered images but this this is actually that they're saying no like if you alter an image it's like for to make yourself look better then you have to like let us know yeah i mean i think this is a thing that you know this has been discussed in norway a lot like they call it body pressure which is sort of that you know it's having a huge effect on the self-esteem of young people because mass media and influencer culture has people just chasing ghosts in the form of like just impossible bodies or, you know, looks or skin and things like that. And without, you know, they think the insidious thing is most people ingest this stuff without realizing this is all fake. This is, this is touched up. This is not how they
Starting point is 00:55:25 looked on the day. There's a lot of editing that goes into that. And this is really to combat that because I think they're, they're seeing this correlation between the two. And I think this has just been happening since, you know, we've just been hyper-sexualized in media and things like that. So there, there, this law is saying any photo where, quote, a body shape, size or skin has been changed by retouching or other manipulation must be marked as edited. So this also this is for advertisers. But then it goes on to say that if you're a celebrity or an influencer and you are accepting money and posting like in like an advertisement of some sort and you are editing the photos, then they must also be labeled. And so the examples are like, you know, enlarged lips, narrowed waists, exaggerated muscles. But it's not clear like what that means if like lighting will count, you know, like if you're
Starting point is 00:56:16 doing things to just dark and like saturation or other things that you could do without maybe directly altering it. But it's, you know, a lot mostly been received really well. I think even in the legislators themselves said the one thing that they could see happening is that perhaps, you know, like the backlash could be people opting for more cosmetic surgery to like move work around that. But I don't know if that's necessarily that big of a concern more than saying that it's important to let people know when the things you are seeing are not, you know, sincere and what we would normally see with our eyes. Right. I mean, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:56:53 That's laudable. I use a lot of face to like to the point that people don't know what I look like. Well, yeah, because you have no features. So literally, we don't know what we're like i don't know it's all flat i really thought jack was an egg when i met him yeah yeah which was only a couple of hours ago and i was like wow a talking egg now i've seen everything but my skin looks great you have to admit like my skin looks your shell looks amazing. Yeah. Hardly porous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:26 It's funny. I mean, you know, I, like I said, I live in Hollywood. It's probably not going to change anything here, but I do think it might make a lot of sense elsewhere. You know,
Starting point is 00:57:37 if you're not on TV, if it's not your job to do that, you shouldn't have to wake up screaming in the middle of the night that you're not, you the night that you're not, you know, that you don't look like Kim Kardashian. I think psychologically, we've done a lot of damage to young people. I mean, I could be overreacting. That could be something that people just say every 10 years as they age. Yeah, but it seems pretty aggressive these days now, like with how normal it seems like, you know, just looking at influencers online and what that world looks like.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Are these people like do they only have time to eat like kale and do pushups? Absolutely not. And here's the thing, like that old joke, like, you know, New York 8 or whatever, or is it the other way around? L.A. 8, New Yorkork 10 that kind of you know which is like so disgusting but like you gotta imagine that like now confronted with those images constantly and not just from celebrities but people in high school right like they're all tuned up and these kids have to be like, I will never be enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:50 You know, I, I will never, I will know, I will never be pretty enough to, to have 10,000 followers. And so no one will ever give me a purse for free or whatever, you know? Right. No one will ever pay for my brunch and I'll never get to say that it was, that I'm an influencer. Like, I thought there were too many like aspiring actor writers now because of like youtube and and tiktok but now everybody thinks they're also a model and then it puts all this you know we we've already realized that that is a bad thing right
Starting point is 00:59:19 that like image is toxic and that it really undermines uh people's other qualities like you know talents intelligence you know emotional and otherwise but now it's part of like it's just ingrained you like oh you want to be a doctor are you are you pretty doctor do you want to you want to be successful on wall street you got to look like this Instagram posting of successful. I don't know. I'm making that up, Miles. I'm just ranting now. No, but it is sort of like this thing that we're reducing the options for people on what it means to be happy or successful when all you're being is depending on what sort of subculture or media culture you're sort of interacting with that you'd be like, I don't know, like everyone has to be hot, I guess. And that's like the only
Starting point is 01:00:11 currency that we have is it's it's just like how much how many likes can you get? Or do you look good enough to get followers in this narrow context more than just a larger thing of like embracing that we're all human beings and we're all going to be different and there's no one right or wrong way it's that we just have to embrace the diversity of you know human life rather than just treating it like it's like well there are the three body types uh super ripped hot as fuck or nasty as shit and it's like right wait is nasty as shit. And it's like, right. Wait, is nasty as shit still good or bad? See, that depends. I think that's where the other bucket.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Yeah. So then if you're not the other two, then you're in low self-esteem town when it should just be like, I don't know, everyone's worthy. And we have to stop like worshiping these like, you know, these types, these figures. It's so strange because to me, social media has also opened that up as well. Right. Where people of all stripes get to go like, this is me. This is,
Starting point is 01:01:10 you know, this is me loving my, like you might've never seen me and I have a phone now too. Look at me, you know? Right. And so it has set the stage for a little bit more variety in what we get to see.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Cause it's not based on, you know, what one Hollywood producer thinks is uh something everyone should look at right but then all these apps are setting us back they are you know everybody makes fun of the apps that like turn your eyes blue and your hair blonde and all like how is that not completely utterly racist like it's it's kind of making fun of it but it's not like people are actually like doing that looking at it going like oh you know and you know there are surgeries now laser surgeries that can make your eyes blue and do all kinds of weird shit like our our kids
Starting point is 01:01:59 looking at it going like maybe i'll get that right i don't know't know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I do, I do think that the bigger problem is just social media and the, like the sort of function of social media, the sort of structure of social media, because like, there's still going to be impossibly hot people like that who are, everybody's looking at on, on social social media so that's like one one thought i had as i was like kind of getting my mind around the story is like
Starting point is 01:02:33 is this just good for like the very hot people who like don't use facetune and like like is this taking money away from somebody who is able to i don't know yeah use technology in a in a smart way yeah yeah yeah it can't be good to like create a altered like reality that's putting pressure on people at the same time i feel like there's always going to be people who we look at on social media and are like, that person looks amazing. Why don't I look like that? And, you know, that there's going to be a supply of those people that social media will be able to force down people's throats unless something changes about the culture. throats uh unless something changes about like about the culture right this is i feel so out of my depth here because we are so like from from birth almost fed all of these images and standards that we spend our entire lives trying to conform to and where do you draw the line right like i have no idea what my life would be like if i just was born outside of society right you know and like how i would feel about
Starting point is 01:03:53 myself as a person i'd be like oh look i'm strong and my voice makes weird noises that's kind of neat like you know just like this curiosity about yourself is completely lost when we want to be social. And then obviously social media has distorted it in these ways that only benefit marketing people and people who own things that they want you to buy. And it's all capitalism. And I don't know. I mean, I think it just maybe that fear that people will just alter their bodies physically is real. And then those people benefit. Maybe there's a lot of dermatologists who are pissed off that now you can just tune your face.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Right. Maybe that's why they did this. Isn't big dermatology making this move? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Like big, like, you know, we in norway yeah we in norway are very you know we we have a lot of saunas and we have a lot of seaweed creams that we that we want to
Starting point is 01:04:54 peddle and this might be good for us i don't know like maybe that's what we're perpetuating right now i don't know it's very impossible to say well it's good to have a norway as our guinea pig you know right see how it does maybe maybe if they're all happy in a year what we can try it there's like this shift though even when you see with gen z though too like they don't really fuck with instagram because they kind of see it as you know this choogy fucking thing where people go to sanitize their lives and pretend that shit's all good when it isn't and so with tiktok like a lot of interesting accounts are a lot of people just like showing you what they do you know like they're like i you know like i work as you know
Starting point is 01:05:36 as a like a sanitation worker and this is what it's like and people are really interested in like the real like the reality of people's like day-to-day lives or things like that granted there there's always going to be people in that sort of beauty lane as well but i think a lot of people just feel like it's just the stuff that's there is different and it's not like you know instagram i think was you know just for in this narrow context the place where people could very much distort who they were and, you know, broadcast that outwardly. For now, I'm going to throw a wrench in your machine because as Gen Z ages, they're going to want to find a way to feel young again. And that might be, you know, adding some TikTok features that make you look cuter because deep fake is just going to get better.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Or something else that we can't predict because it hasn't happened yet yeah i think like just like with that sort of beauty culture or like racism each generation will maybe have it just a little bit less but it's not to say that it'll be completely gone because i think at the end of the day they're still we're still operating in these very distinct, aggressive media environments, which can only have some kind of effect on us in the long term. I will just leave you with this warning, I guess, because I guess that's my job here. I don't know why I said that. Never assume it's going to get better in any way. You always have to watch out for those pitfalls.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Just because something seems like it's on the right track doesn't mean another Trump doesn't come along and set us back. Oh, no, I'm under no illusions that work is done in any way. But everything is because all I see, especially, you know, as a minority living in this country is everything is gradual and incremental. Nothing is happening quickly. And most people would love to go into the magical thinking that the problems are done and solved. But, you know, I am heartened to see that values are shifting, certainly from when I was 19, where I was all in on you better look a certain way. You better have your body look in a certain way. And there was absolutely no question around that and how toxic that is.
Starting point is 01:07:50 But yeah, I know. But I totally understand your point. I mean, you kind of see it, though, right? Like the 20s feel like they're 100 years ahead of the 50s in America, right? The 60s and 70s feel so progressive compared to the 80s. Right. The 60s and 70s feel so progressive compared to the 80s. I'm just terrified that like even when we backslide, it's going to backslide. So, you know, there was a point where women women were feeling like, oh, maybe I don't have to wear makeup. I don't have to shave. I don't have to, you know, please a man.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And that was millennials. and then now that's wrong that's not the thing anymore now it's face tuning and now it's you know bright red lipstick like i always wear because i'm like i don't know i i don't you know it's so confusing it's just it's whatever they tell us to do it and even if you're resistant to it, eventually it trickles down and you find yourself buying snail cream. Yeah. Yeah. The Dark Ages came after the, you know, ancient Greek and ancient Greeks and the ancient Roman, like, classics.
Starting point is 01:09:01 So it's possible and happens all the time that things go in a very backwards fucked direction you're a very astute egg a very astute smart sentient egg person yeah oh man that means a lot well anna it's been it's been a pleasure having you where can people uh find you and follow you please um uh at Left Handed Radio everywhere. We're a sketch comedy podcast, usually not this serious, at the actual Anna on Twitter, although I will warn you,
Starting point is 01:09:35 I don't tweet a lot, but yeah. Nice. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I'll call out my old buddy, Dan Chamberlain, who used to be part of Left-Handed Radio. He's at AM, FM, PM. And he had a tweet recently that was really,
Starting point is 01:09:53 it really struck me funny. The world's your oyster. Expensive. Smells bad. That's great. Miles, where can people find you? you with the tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram miles of gray also the other show 420 day fiance where our our podcasting performances are enhanced by the demon marijuana strains of weed um so check that out tweet i like
Starting point is 01:10:22 it's from andrew nedell the and Nadeau tweeted imagine you were a vampire nowhere near the Middle East and don't know who Jesus is but the day after he dies you gotta figure out why lowercase t's start hurting like how unfair that is like what's going on how the fuck
Starting point is 01:10:41 tweet I've been enjoying I loved that Dick the onion posted a headline that was ncaa announces plans to let players make money off dick vital's likeness and dick vital the just incredibly annoying ncaa like basketball play-by-play or i guess color guy retweeted that article and said this is cool brought joy to my heart as it is about time the players can make some money so he thought that was real uh he's living in a reality where they i don't know i don't know what reality he's living in and brody gupta tweeted pop goes the weasel what the fuck are you talking about
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Starting point is 01:11:40 the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we sending them to today? This is a track from DJ St. Thomas. We wrote out on another DJ St. Thomas track maybe a month or two ago because this album has such good summer vibes to it. And it's just music you play. And for someone who's been cooped up in a house for a long time sometimes you hear music and you're like i think i'm at a party right now based on this song i'm
Starting point is 01:12:09 listening to and this is the power of this track by dj saint thomas it's called three two three like the area code shout out la but yeah dj saint thomas three two three have a party in your ears with this one all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. But we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending. And, hey, we'll talk to you then.
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