The Daily Zeitgeist - Reckless Trendangerment 3/21: Daddy Yankee, Kanye, Rachel Ziegler, Tony Hawk, World Poetry Day, Pusha T
Episode Date: March 21, 2022In this ediiton of Reckless Trendangerment, Jack and Miles discuss Daddy Yankee retiring, Kanye getting banned from the Grammys, Rachel Ziegler not getting invited to the Oscars, the Goated Boar...dBoiz who DID get an invite, World Poetry Day, and Pusha T's surprising new diss track.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Reckless Trendangerment, courtesy of Johnny
Davis.
My name is Jack.
You are Miles.
And it's Monday, March 21st.
Do we even say the date at the top of this?
Yeah, why not?
Who really no one can ever say.
No one can ever say.
There's no record of any of this.
So don't even try to find out.
How's it going?
How are you on this Monday afternoon?
I'm great.
Two hours into recording together.
I'm great.
Thanks for finally fucking asking.
I had tears on my eyes two hours, tears in my eyes two hours ago.
And you're like, let's split this thing up.
Let's roll a shh more on that one.
Let's roll a shh.
Hey, hey, hey.
Stop with the sniffling, man.
What are you doing? or something no crying man yeah whatever man just get it together well speaking of crying king of reggaeton daddy yankee has announced they're retiring yeah um
i saw so many headlines being like sounds like he ran out of gasolina.
And you're like, oh, boy.
Yeah, I mean, the person who basically, I mean, I feel like brought reggaeton to the masses, at least outside of like, you know, Puerto Rico.
You know, I was fucking gasolina when that shit came out.
I was I was ready.
I just want to read his statement this race
which has been a marathon finally sees the finish line now i'm going to enjoy what all of you have
given me namely lots of money no that's not what he says people say that i made this genre worldwide
but it was you who gave me the key to open
the doors to make it the biggest in the world.
Oh.
That's beautiful.
I also, there's something he's doing in the first sentence with the tensing that feels
very like poetic, which we'll get to a little later on, believe it or not, poetry.
Yeah.
But yeah, that is the statement of a true artiste.
He's 45.
He looks great.
Damn.
Yeah.
That hairline is stronger than fucking concrete.
Strong.
My God, Daddy Yankee.
Yeah, well, you know,
it seems like all the cool things go to Daddy Yankee.
You're the godfather of reggaeton.
You have an iron strong hairline but i guess you'll
enjoy it all i just thought well now who's laughing now who's a loser daddy yankee retiring
and shit i love how i love the humility though you know i was like i sure yeah i mean yeah by
all definitions yeah i am the fucking one who put it on. But he was even like, no, it was y'all.
It was y'all.
I'm like, all right, daddy.
Having an imaginary argument with someone who's trying to give him credit.
Oh, me?
No, come on now.
Sure, maybe by all definitions of who put this shit on.
But yeah, why not?
And now look at the biggest fucking genre.
Like, it makes sense to me when an
athlete retires it doesn't make sense when they unretire uh tom thomas right but it when it when
an artist retires i guess jack don't we already we already know it's a cash grab okay all right
come on jack come on man when the black album came out i bought s.carters because i thought
this man was gonna leave us forever could you imagine the nfts that would have been available
if he was just a little bit more ahead of his time i would have been absolutely destroyed my
life in debt to buy the nft of the black album um but i mean because you know because here the announcement
follows that means there's an album and a farewell tour and that's that's how you let people know
like don't fuck up and miss this shit now i'm not saying that's his end game but i know that the
definite the plus of announcing you're hanging it up is saying i'm also going on this tour you
motherfuckers better not miss a show or else that's it has there ever been somebody who like retired at their peak and
really really retired from like an art form an art form yeah like that wasn't like due to like
an accident or death or something yeah yeah i do mean not discounting anyone who died uh yeah
i mean i don't know that takes a tremendous amount of what'd you say
brian said daft punk yeah maybe did that anna saying tiana taylor yeah yeah okay yeah but i
yeah it's i i i don't know i feel like it's just art is such a weird thing because it's not
how could you even know within like yourself that you're like i no longer i guess
unless you're saying i'm no i no longer have the will to create anymore that seems like a retirement
i could like be like oh shit okay this person's been like i fried out all my circuits at least
in this way and i can't do music anymore like i think i'm going to switch to sculpting or some shit all right kanye banned from the 2022 grammys uh was
supposed to perform has been banned due to uh his online behavior i don't know i don't know yeah i
don't know i mean this is this story is this again like everything with kanye since his like he's
been more sort of or at least been more transparently clear that he's struggling with
his mental health he's kind like, this is a weird story
still. He's got
a few nominations too in the show.
For Donda, Donda, Donda, Donda, Donda,
Donda, Donda, Donda, Donda, Donda, Donda, Donda.
You know, do you ever
my friend plays that for his kid
and his kid just loves that song.
Just the Donda?
The repetition of Donda? Yeah. There's probably some ASMR shit there. that for his kid and his kid just loves that song the just the donda just done the repetition
yeah it's like i guess to a kid you're like asmr shit there but that's a that's a good album when
you have kids because you can listen to it with kids because it doesn't have any profanities
and this is what i've been saying is the problem with rap music from the start
you know yep hey man i that tipper gore back tat you have thank you um west side story star
rachel zegler uh has not been does not have a ticket to the oscars she's got no ticket to ride
none she's she's not she's in a movie that's nominated for what seven fucking things she's the lead of the
movie yeah and she's not in it and that leads you to understand well who gets to go well if you're
a presenter or a nominee you get two tickets that's the standard and then from there the
studios get an allotment so then they can bestow those tickets upon their people that they believe need to be at the award show.
So, yeah, I think.
So what's going on?
Whoever her agent is, they need to have a talk because like, come on, that's inexcusable for her wanting to go and not getting invited.
You know, right.
That's right.
And she's like people people
are like she's a star she's gonna
have an amazing career
um she's already like booking all
sorts of new shit
um so it's not like people were like
well uh that was a mistake
let's move on
from that so it's just look i don't
you're not going to i get
that somebody fucked
up and you didn't get a ticket but i have a feeling steven spielberg who can fucking cancel
the oscars if he wanted to he has so much fucking power and i mean not that much but you'll you'll
get a ticket especially after your ig post and people like how the fuck is she not going yeah
this is a fuck up on the part of somebody who has a job that uh i do
not envy yeah someone got fired there's no i don't think there's a conspiracy to keep you out of there
unless you said some shit and i don't know what the fuck's going on with your personal life but
i have a feeling somebody fucked up but i'm excited about the presenter list that's that's
one thing i can say rub your mittens together for this one as a fan of board sports
board based doesn't matter what kind of board i just want somebody to be standing on top of a
board yeah um and we got three of them presenting at the oscars goats three goat night yeah um we
got tony hawk boom we got kelly slater we got sean white being again this is this is presenting at
the oscars yeah um there there wasn't there wasn't a movie right that came out this year that i'm
missing those like board yeah dude uh the great board boy and the great board boys board boys yeah i mean everybody else stephanie beatrice dj khaled
i'm sorry khaled but i don't know what you're doing there uh jennifer garner her tiffany haddish
uh elliot page like elliot page makes sense bill murray makes sense tiffany haddish makes sense
jennifer garner i'm kind of
looking at dj khaled and the borders as being a little bit of a hey fellow kids type moment but
even then i'm like who are these kids that they're trying to communicate to with these people by the
way uh speaking of borders and dj khaled uh i saw he uh opened for jay-z-Z and Beyonce at the Rose Bowl show that I went to.
Oh, yeah.
I was like, why is this dude opening?
And he was just riding around on one of those hovercrafts the whole time
and was very entertaining.
Yeah.
Just appeared to be a kid having fun.
But, yeah.
He's just an energetic force.
Yeah.
But yeah, he's just an energetic force.
You know, I'm just as somebody who's attempted to work with him and say, have him say things on script. I'm curious what the prompter game is going to be like, or if he's just going to like how they write it to really get his ass, like his essence.
Right.
Is he is some writer painfully going to have to put major key in the prompter or another one yeah you know we the best
i don't know or will he do that on his own because he's great at branding this will this will be an
interesting one um as super producer brian was saying before uh it was reminding me because i
had the same thought last year's oscars felt like a regional uh industry awards banquet right um it felt like kind of minor and
you know focused on you know the people who are good who achieved great things in our industry
the three diamond plaque um right type shit and i don't know but at least the that had
that weird thing where steven sorterh was like trying to do something interesting.
Right.
Yeah, like the Bong Joon in the movie theater bit too.
Yeah, that's right.
But this year I just feel like it's going to be very strange.
But who knows?
Yeah.
We'll see.
Whatever.
I mean, we'll be kind of not watching. Or most of us won't see. Statistically, most of us won't see. Whatever. I mean, we'll be kind of not watching.
We'll see or most of us won't see.
Yeah.
Statistically, most of us won't see.
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And we're back.
And it is World Poetry Day. Yeah.
I mean, this one kind of
dovetails with
another thing that we have
going on here, and that is a
piece of poetry, spoken word poetry that
was released by push a t um i mean is it is it spoken i mean or just filthy bars
but let's talk about poetry real quick are you uh are you a poetry head no i was just real like
realizing how many people were stoked on world poetry day and i just realized
like i i i maybe only in the last two or three years have i been more like into like just kind
of experiencing poetry or looking for shit that kind of resonates with me but like back then i
was like man this shit is fucking whack bro shit is boring as fuck because also i just was not
emotionally in touch enough to understand like the like literary art of it all
and i was like all right that shit rhymes i guess he's comparing his fucking love to a candle or
some shit i don't know uh and then you start hearing like poetry that kind of speaks to you
and it touches you but yeah i was just thinking about how i stayed ignorant for a long time
because was it a gravy candle that he was comparing his love to? Fuck no, it wasn't no gravy.
If it was, I would have been...
It would have been better.
Celebrating World Poetry Day every day.
Try harder, poet.
Yeah.
Hit us with one.
Do you have one off the top of your head, a poet or a poem that you'd recommend?
It gets the Miles Gray stamp of approval poem uh version you know what's funny
it when we had melissa lozada oliva on the show she's a poet and she's really funny on twitter
and on social media and she actually kind of got me looking at poetry different to be honest uh and
it took fucking firsthand experience with somebody that was on the show and was a poet and to be like oh this shit is actually kind of witty i couldn't say
specifically a poem of hers but because i'm not like again i'm not fully getting to poetry i'm
like yo i got this shit on my wall but i'm saying i'm reorienting liva and uh the first thing that
comes up is her website and it's got a bunch of her poetry yeah oh becca in the chat says loki v much love
poetry okay see i get there's nothing wrong because you know what and then i got into it
when uh i for a second i was fucking with it when deaf poetry slam came out because i felt like the
closest thing to like freestyle rap um but with like you know emotion and depth um but yeah now
i'm just you know like i said i'm just i'm i'm i'm exploring the waters
of poetry now shit zeitgang let me know i'm sure most of y'all fucking know way more shit i know
you know more shit because i don't know anything hit me with some of your favorite poems uh yeah
because it takes me like under an hour to read a poem so you can send that to me and i'll i'll read
it uh pretty quickly uh all right let's talk about one of my favorite
poets push a t push a push a time so he wrote a filet-o-fish diss track for wendy's arby's sorry
oh arby's yeah that changes everything um no it doesn't uh this is a piece of spawn con i
oh yeah i believe so he tweeted just dropped a diss track with our at arby's grab some popcorn this is a piece of SponCon, I believe.
So he tweeted,
just dropped a diss track with our at Arby's.
Grab some popcorn, a spicy fish sandwich.
Hashtag Arby's spicy fish diss track.
Hashtag Arby's paid me, but I would say this anyway.
Oh.
I don't think you would.
Okay, well, let's see. I don't think you would if you knew it was good for you
in terms of the number of people who are devoted to the Filet-O-Fish.
Well, I mean, y'all want to hear it?
Y'all ready for some fish-based battle raps?
Can he do that?
Can he say that about the Filet-O-Fish?
Well, let's hear it. Again, remember, this is Pusha T, whose cocaine bars were some of the most next-level things from the early aughts.
Now putting his energy into, you know, picking a side in the franchise wars.
Oh, okay.
Aggressive synth.
Oh! i'm the reason the whole world love it now i gotta crush it for leo fishes then you should be disgusted how do you sell a square fish asking us to trust it a half slice of cheese mickey d's
on a budget oh these crispy fishes simply ate with lines around the corner we might need a guest list
eggs and stage left the sandwiches taste fresh a little cube of fish from a clown is basic
okay i have a problem with that ryan push
which one you had a lot you said uh lines around the corner that anita guest list he said exit
stage left the sandwiches taste fresh a little cube of fish from a clown is basic you know a
it needs to be basic but he there's no base sec. That sounds weird.
Whatever.
What are you going to do?
Push.
I mean, I get it.
I'm going to let him get away with that one.
Base sec.
In the beginning, he starts off referencing the fact that he's on
ba-da-pa-pa-pa, I'm loving it, because he said,
I'm the reason the whole world love it.
And that's a highly disputed thing in music
is Pusha T and Malice's hand
in the ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba
I'm Lovin' It McDonald's campaign.
Because that's a Justin Timberlake song
and Pharrell and Chad were working on it.
And there's like a lot of disputes
around who came up with it.
And there's a whole article
about how this German ad agency
actually came up with the phrasing of,
like, it was like, I love it.
And then that turned into I'm lovin' it, like when they mashed it up with the phrasing of like, it was like, I love it. And then that turned into,
I'm loving it.
Like when they matched it up with Justin Timberlake.
So,
and then where,
what is their contribution supposed to be?
They wrapped on the commercial.
They're in the,
like one of the longer cuts of the commercial wrapping,
but they said they had a hand in the process where they're coming up with it.
And like,
there's like a lot of like,
even engineers who are like, I was at the sessions with with it they weren't even fucking there that's a lie
like okay easy hotly contested so like for instance uh one of one of the super producers
on this very episode immediately switched allegiances to drake upon hearing that because
they ride so hard for the filet-o-fish sandwich um i know a lot of
people who really love a filet-o-fish sandwich uh i love a filet-o-fish have you tried those
arby's one now see this is we're playing into this bullshit this is what they want i'll tell
you i'm gonna take a dump on it right now fuck arby's stay in your motherfucking lane y'all have
the meats don't start getting out of your fucking
corral here arby's you fuck with the meats not the fish so i'm not going to i'm not even gonna
look your way because if i go to arby's i only get one thing that's at least four beef and cheddars
in a shitload of horse at least four beef and cheddars oh my god i'm disgusting i'm disgusting i'm absolutely i'm disgusting i'll
debase myself in an arby's um but so what do you think made arby's hire him to do this do you think
it was the drake beef do you think it was his presence yeah i think i think some you know hip
hop minded millennial person at an ad agency was like,
you know the kids, when Push comes after somebody and goes for their neck,
the kids listen.
Right.
So why don't we just kind of do a mashup here, and rather than Drizzy,
it's McDizzy.
Nothing is safe.
Right, exactly.
Capitalism comes for us all.
But you know who's really more than that?
Because I'm sorry, the exit exit stage left the sandwich tastes fresh spending this is something that's basic okay hold on you lost that one i'm sorry push a t to doja cat because like last week
she posted on her tiktok about this like mexican pizza wrap she had to do for taco bell as part
of a deal and she's like really she's like pained trying to tell people about it she's like this was an ad and just something i have to do so and her performance is her reading it off of
wherever she wrote it down oh yeah let me just play let me just play a little bit of the doja
cat one because i think the doja cat beats push a t hands down refried beans you know what i mean that shit is fresh okay that's fucking bars yeah who is she uh
mad at in in the song i think she's just basically she's just trying to being like she's taking on
like this energy of like don't fuck around with my Mexican pizza.
Right, because it has been fucked around with.
Yeah.
She said, give you hell if you cross me.
We about to throw hands if you want trying me over the Mexican pizza.
I'm like that.
See, now I'm attaching an emotion to the Mexican pizza, which is like, don't fuck with me.
I'm on my Mexican pizza shit.
I'm a fucking beast. Yeah. P it just sounds like a fish hater people who you know can't see because
this is an audio meeting every time that bell rang i tried to get up and leave the room like
in those ads when people hear the bell ring so and just got pulled back by the headphone cable um
but yeah they got me uh they got me yeah all right well uh there's a couple
other things trending that are uh that so you know there's an apple outage uh but that's more
an explanation for why i was late to the recording um i didn't everybody get my text messages oh
yeah i thought my earlier this morning when i like the
music app was fucking up for me and i was like what the fuck is going on so who knows what's
happening there who knows we don't know we just uh yeah but uh all right let's take uh let's not
take a break take a very long break take a very long break until we are back tomorrow with the
whole last episode of the show um until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
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