The Daily Zeitgeist - Renner Or Not, Here He Comes; Spicy Snack Matrix 7.3.19
Episode Date: July 3, 2019In episode 426, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Chris Crofton to discuss where the popular 2020 candidates are in the polls, Fox & Friends defending the border patrol, a look at Jeremy Renne...r's musical work, a spicy snack power ranking list, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Biden plummets, Harris vaults to second in major poll2. ‘Her ambition got it wrong about Joe’: Harris faces debate backlash3. Bernie Sanders Falls Short of Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s Second Quarter Fundraising Haul4. Fox & Friends' Brian Kilmeade likens overcrowded detention facilities at the border to having a house party with 100 people and only two and a half bathrooms5. Inside the Secret Border Patrol Facebook Group Where Agents Joke About Migrant Deaths and Post Sexist Memes6. Jeremy Renner's Music7. The official spicy snack power rankings8. WATCH: Bibio - Before Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News.
Fuck all.
It's Wednesday, July 3rd, 2019.
July 3rd, 2019.
My name is Jack O'Brien,
a.k.a.
PORSUM JACK O'BRIEN from Hannah Soltis and Def Leppard.
And I'm thrilled to be joined
by today's co-host.
See, I still have the copy
from when you weren't here.
I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,
by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Yes, it is Miles Gray.
Thank you already to at Andy Rack for these anagrams I'm about to hit you with.
I'm very jealous of Caitlin Durante's name and all the just amazing ways her name becomes many other words.
So it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Mary Giles, a.k.a. I'm Liar Gas, a.k.a. Say Rim Jail, Jell, a.k.a. I, Sly Gamer, Slimy Rag,
and Misery Gal.
Misery Gal? Misery Gal is my
carnival, yeah, cosplay I do.
Where I'm like a goth
sort of Trinidadian dancer.
Trini dancer. Misery Gal.
Anagrams. So much
fun. What's the
anagram in the
Da Vinci Code, which is like intellectual puzzles for dumb people
where it's like, it ends up being Leonardo Da Vinci, but it's like, I don't know.
But it's like real obvious.
I felt like that was the book, like all my friends' dads were like, man, the Da Vinci
Code, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Fucking Dan Brown.
My dad was like, you got to read this guy.
And then what was the other one?
Like Angels and Demons or something?
Angels in the Outfield, I believe.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the great guests of the
Daily Zeitgeist.
He is the hilarious and talented Mr. Chris Crofton.
Hey, what's up?
Hey!
How are you guys doing?
I didn't know if I was supposed to talk about the Da Vinci Code because I hadn't been introduced.
Yeah, well now you can.
But I'm one of those old dudes who read the Da Vinci Code.
And?
Well, I was like, this is exciting.
Yeah?
You were feeling it?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, for a minute.
It doesn't seem like it's a not exciting book.
Any kind of mystery I like.
I was in my 20s.
Even if it's not true, I like it. I was in my 20s. Even if it's not true, I like it.
I was in my 20s, even if it's not true.
I mean, if it's supposed to be true and it's kind of disproven, I still stay on board and
pretend it's true.
I think that's called fiction.
I'm like, it must have been sort of true.
Yeah.
There's obviously truth to it or else no one would be writing about it.
Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
Do you know that book?
No.
Okay.
Holy Blood, Holy Grail is a book that is about some monk that found secret papers in a pillar
in an old Templar monastery and stuff.
And it's like they wrote a whole book and it's really convincing.
And then it just turns out the whole thing's a fraud.
Oh, really?
But I refuse to concede that it's a fraud.
Thank God.
Even though the people who made it said it's a fraud.
But I'm still like, I think that they're saying it's a fraud because it's too real and they're
trying to keep it still on the double down low.
So you're pointing to your temple when you say that.
You're like, I do your game.
I'll play your game.
I mean, there's some very interesting ideas built into the Da Vinci Code that are true,
like that society was constructed for men to control women somewhat and the current iteration of society, Western society,
and the one instituted by the Catholic Church.
Those are very interesting thoughts on history.
I just don't know.
I don't even know what the Da Vinci Code really is.
I think it's, what is it?
Somebody in the Last Supper, somebody was bald.
I think it's up, down, down, left, right, left, right,
A, B, start, select or something like that. It's like the bald guy. There was some guy at the Last Supper, somebody was bald. Up, down, down, left, right, left, right, A, B, start, select, or something like that?
It's like the bald guy.
There was some guy at the Last Supper that was bald, and that meant he was, that's a code or something.
Like there's like a guy in the painting that's got like a cell phone or something like that.
Yeah, he's like tweeting about it.
He's like, I know how to use the codex already.
Yeah, something like the Beatles with Paul was barefoot, and that means he's dead kind of thing. Remember on the Abbey Road cover where they were like, Paul's bare barefoot and that means he's dead kind of thing.
Remember on the Abbey Road cover where they were like, Paul's barefoot and that means he's dead.
Which seems like a leap.
Been dead.
How's your cold brew?
It's cooking.
I didn't drink cold brew all morning.
I know.
You said, I'm saving it for the show.
Because I saved it for the show and I had the most miserable ride over here.
I thought like, I had the darkest thoughts.
I was like on the way over here like, life isn't worth living.
And then I had some cold brew and now I feel, fuck, worth living?
I want to find out.
Let's do a thousand piece puzzle.
I want to find out about the Da Vinci code.
Let's solve history.
Yeah.
I want to decode.
You know what?
Fuck it, man.
You guys want to go to Italy right now?
I want to decode all the codes.
How quickly can you have your bags packed for Rome?
I just love that the book is like all this information that is like historically relevant and, you know, interesting theories on history is like hidden within all these like Sudoku like puzzles.
Right, right, right.
It's like, all right.
If you're not good at puzzles, forget about it.
Now you must solve the New York Times crossword puzzle to get this next clue.
Anyways, Chris, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about, such
as we are going to take a brief tour.
So Chris is a double threat, a musician, comedian, performer, so maybe a triple threat.
But we're going to take a tour of a brilliant release from the triple threat, Jeremy Renner.
He is an actor.
He is a house flipper, and we are now learning a musician.
And he teased us all, had us all begging for it with his release on Twitter of himself in the studio scatting.
No.
Not scatting.
Putting down a fucking vocal track to be reckoned with.
It sounded a little bit like scatting.
It was influenced by scatting.
Anyways, we're going to listen to that song, and I want to get your thoughts, Chris.
I can't wait.
We are going to talk about where-
Who's Jeremy Renner?
Just kidding.
Who knows? I don't even know. He was the guy in Solo where... Who's Jeremy Renner? Just kidding.
I don't even know.
He was the guy in Solo.
He played Solo in the new Han Solo movie.
Yep.
Nailed it.
That could be true.
Nobody saw that.
We're going to talk about... I saw it.
I thought it was all right.
Yeah, I've heard it's all right.
It's not as bad as the sort of...
It's like Waterworld.
Waterworld got this reputation for being this horrible movie because it didn't make its money back. It's alright. It's not as bad as the sort of, it's like Waterworld. Waterworld got this reputation for being
this horrible movie because it
didn't make its money back.
Waterworld's great. Jeremy Renner's also in that.
Yeah. He's the little
kid with the gills. Oh, he's the little guy.
I thought he was the main dude. He's in that.
He was in Batman. Oh yeah.
He's my favorite Batman.
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You need to shut up.
Leave these guys alone.
Think about the guys with the guns.
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Fox News loves people in outfits, like uniforms.
It doesn't matter what kind they are.
That's true.
Except for football players.
That guy has a uniform.
Stop yelling at him.
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Chris, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?
Well, I feel like I've already used all the really good ones
because mostly I do search for just metal detecting videos
and magnet fishing videos and mudlarking videos.
But I do also like to look up anything about Bigfoot.
And once again, I don't really care if it's 100 true
i i uh i like to care if it's 100 bigfoot
you know i don't care if it's 100 true now i think okay now these guys you guys have actually
heard me talk about this in private because this is something I talk about a lot, which is this thing that I've found out that, like, just doing my usual, just seeing if there's anything new on the Bigfoot news front, like on YouTube, which is best probably for Bigfoot news, I find.
Yeah.
It turns out that when Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980, like already I've lost your heart.
No, no.
I'm still fucking into this.
What?
1980?
Do you remember Mount St. Helens when it blew up?
It's like the biggest volcanic eruption in the contiguous United States, I believe.
So apparently, so I'm like watching this thing and like Mount St. Helens Bigfoot bodies was
like the thing on YouTube.
Whoa.
And I was like, what?
What?
That sounds good.
So I looked it up.
I don't care if this is 100% true.
Maybe there was only one Bigfoot body.
How does that matter?
All it takes is one.
It's one of those documentaries made by some nut.
Of course.
But once again, it's made by a nut.
Surprise.
It's a Bigfoot documentary.
But anyway, I think Bigfoot's real.
But anyway, it's a separate thing well
anyway this guy made a little documentary and says okay when mount saint helens erupted the
army corps of engineers did what they always do which is they went up and they collected all the
animal bodies because they didn't want disease to spread okay so they they went up there with
a helicopter and i guess like a bag or whatever and they and they filled it up with all the
animals that were dead on mount saint. Helens. Just one bag.
Yeah, I was already like, when I heard that, I was already like, well, I didn't know they did that.
I was like, the first thing I thought was, I didn't know that they did that.
After every disaster, they collect all the dead animals?
I had no idea that happened.
So that did kind of make me think, huh, that's weird.
I didn't know they do that.
They do that, okay.
So anyway, this is when i got also i was
still i got a little more skeptical when they said they put all the animals in separate stacks at the
bottom of the mountain uh-huh so like there was a stack of like elk and like i mean i just like
why they can be properly buried or whatever yeah identified by family members yeah so it's like a
stack of elk i guess and a stack of like deer and then a stack of raccoons or whatever. Right. And then they have one stack under a tarp.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah.
This is all relayed as true.
This is not a joke.
After the Army Corps of Engineers gets all the animals like they do and put them on an
ark, just kidding, but that's what it sounds like they're doing.
Right.
Underneath the tarp, somebody's uncle, who was in the Army Corps of Engineers,
talked to this documentary filmmaker and told him that he went and looked under the tarp,
and that was a pile of Bigfoots.
Wow.
And I'm going to assume that was the shortest pile.
Right.
You know what I mean?
There probably wasn't that.
I mean, I'm sure there weren't.
They're tall, but when they're dead, they're just laying down, and there aren't that many of them.
That's what I'm thinking.
Right.
Apparently, there was a tremendous Bigfoot population on Mount St. Helens.
In the Pacific Northwest.
And so they were very negatively impacted by this explosion.
You should do a benefit concert.
For all the Bigfoots impacted by Mount St. Helens.
Well, I mean, so this gets further.
So then somebody else's uncle, it's always somebody's uncle.
Also looked under the tarp.
No, he was working not only under the tarp was there a bunch of Bigfoots,
Also looked under the tarp.
No, he was working not only under the tarp was there a bunch of Bigfoots, but then there was a medical tent where Bigfoots were being, or Bigfeet,
and the jury's still out on that.
I was going to ask, yeah.
No one knows.
That's another mystery.
That's the key mystery.
And I don't care if that's 100% true.
Only a Bigfoot knows, and you can never get him to say.
So do you guys go by Bigfoots or Feet?
You can't, yeah, but.
Need medical care.
This fuck,
this guy who worked for the army corps of engineers,
his uncle or whatever,
said that he stood by this medical tent and he thought that just these tall
guys in big overcoats were going into the medical tent and,
and,
and getting bandaged up.
But then he noticed one of them had like a huge amount of hair on his wrist
or something.
And he was like, Oh my God, these are bigfoots they're treating that didn't die in the thing.
Then this other guy, another person's uncle or stepdad or somebody who worked for the
Forest Service or whatever it was.
These are all checked out.
Whatever.
It's the Uncle Whisper Network.
The Uncle Whisper Network is very reliable.
These are all official titles. Stepdads and uncles. Why are they mentioning that they're somebody's uncle i don't know just
because just to prove that it's not some random guy yeah yeah so this is somebody's uncle it's
just some random guy's family this is a legit person this guy knows people he's got you know
he's got siblings that fuck he's got nephews i mean this guy's real. So anyway, he said that this is where I really, I doubt this is true, but I don't know.
That there was an Army Corps of Engineers guy who was talking Bigfoot to a Bigfoot.
And that the idea is the government knows about Bigfoots.
They talk to them.
I don't know what they talk to them about.
Right.
Because, I mean.
Like good tips on child
rearing but if they can talk to them why didn't they tell them ahead of time to clear out of the
mountain if there's gonna i mean everybody knew that mountain was gonna blow up well that's because
you know i don't know think of what color the big feet are right if they were white they maybe would
have got the message because they're brown so you think yeti are treated better yes yetis are
treated yes we all know about yetis and all Yeti lives matter,
the whole fucking groups they got for that shit.
But Big Feet, they're misrepresented.
You know what I mean?
But whenever I mention this story to people,
they always are like, first of all,
what are you talking about?
The Army Corps of Engineers collects all the animals after disasters.
And that's when everybody else, for them, it falls apart. I'm easy to just, I'll skip right over that. And that's when it's everybody else for them. It falls apart.
I'm easy to just, I'm easy.
I'll skip right over that.
And then the next thing is like, yeah, maybe they don't do that, but maybe they do.
I don't know.
I don't work for, I don't have an uncle in the Army Corps of Engineers.
They're like, sure, sir.
Again, this is a Wendy's.
So what is your order?
Does the Army Corps of Engineer go out into the woods when like on an ordinary day and
collect any animals that happened to die?
Just in case this spreads to these-
I mean, I'm only agreeing with this because I saw Chernobyl, and I know that the dudes were shooting animals.
And I'm like, yeah, maybe that checks out.
Maybe that was because they wander from the-
Sure, but again, you know.
Maybe they were worried about zombie animals.
Anyways, Chris, go ahead.
I'm just going to say a tie-in for this is that that just got me going into deeper stuff that I didn't know about.
In 1924, a group of gold prospectors were attacked by Bigfoots with boulders.
Holy shit.
And the canyon that that happened in is called Ape Canyon now for real.
For real?
That's on the map.
Exactly. I don't care's on the map, so. Yeah.
Exactly.
So.
I don't care if it's 100% true.
So anyway, I think it's fun.
I don't know if it's true, but, you know.
I've heard that story before about the tarp, and I don't know.
It feels like to me.
It's very interesting.
It feels like to me they would probably do something more elaborate than a tarp.
I do feel like that's probably...
Why not just drag them elsewhere?
Could they put the tarps...
How securely did they put them on there?
Why were they letting people...
And if it's that secure, they're like, all right, work.
Why were they letting people peek?
Dude, if you need medical care, go to the temple.
Put a hat on and try and play it low-key, dude.
What did they think?
Oh, my gosh.
Guys just like, hold on, man.
This dude's wrist's all hairy. Apparently, there must have been a basketball team in overcoats up did they think? Oh, my gosh. It's just like they're- Hold on, man. This dude's wrist all hairy.
Apparently, there must have been a basketball team in overcoats up on the mountain.
Oh, wait a minute.
They're extremely hairy.
Oh, my God.
I like that they-
Yeah, it's like-
That's not a basketball team.
That's Bigfoots and Overcoats or Big Feet.
Total cartoon logic.
Yeah.
Overcoats.
But it wasn't until the wrist hair blew the whole planet.
Wait a second. Sir, do you have the
time? And then he pulls back his wrist.
Great day, isn't it?
You don't even have a watch.
Wait a minute.
No, I have to get back to
my kids, you know. God damn,
these bills are adding up.
The Army Corps of Engineers guy asks him in
Bigfoot what time it is. As usual, this
first act has gone off the rails.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Chris Crofton, what is something you think is overrated?
I think overrated is being in a bad mood.
Okay.
Fantastic.
Yeah, people too often say that's a good thing.
Well, I think that this is the...
Here's the thing, because UFOs basically recently...
UFOs have recently been pretty much announced to be real.
Right, by the Air Force.
And since nobody can be mad about it,
they just skipped over it and went straight to Betsy Ross Nikes.
I mean, we should be excited.
Oh, yeah.
I, for one, want to meet our alien overlords.
But there's nothing to...
It's much...
I'm just saying, you can be psyched about aliens being real
because that makes everything feel... Then that's, I don't know, that's hopeful.
Like, maybe there's more to this life than just.
Your shit doesn't matter.
Than just getting upset.
Right.
And so I just was thinking, like, about that.
I was thinking about UFOs being real would be normally a great thing, but nobody knows how to yell about it.
So they just are like, oh, well that sucks.
Who cares?
I guess the thing is like,
no one wants to acknowledge how,
um,
inconsequential their own life might be.
Right.
It's like,
well,
if that's true,
then maybe it is a gigantic expanding universe where I'm nothing but a piece
of fucking bacteria on a rock.
But then,
but then,
but,
but I want to get mad at the manager of Chipotle right now.
Exactly. And I think there's no way the manager of Chipotle right now. Exactly.
And I think there's no way to tweet effectively about aliens being real in any kind of snappy way.
Well, I think do it with a thread along with your findings on Bigfoot.
I'm sure people will catch on.
Or maybe I should just say underrated is aliens being real is underrated.
Okay.
Yeah.
We covered you over and under in a short amount of time.
That's crazy.
Yeah, there's that apocryphal story
about how when the conquistadors
came ashore
during the Mayan civilization,
the Mayans couldn't see them at first
because their brain couldn't
functionally take into account,
process the shape of the ships and
the and it's definitely like an apocryphal racist thing where it's like the brown people couldn't
even conceive of something they were looking at uh but i do think maybe there's a kernel of truth
in that that's being proved out by the ufo thing in the sense that our brain was not designed to comprehend things that are
that much bigger than the human species or that much bigger than our lives. So we've just chosen
to be like, yeah, did you see that story in the New York Times? All right, moving on. Donald Trump,
Jeremy Renner has a new album out. So yeah, I feel like all this mystery stuff for me is just a way to say
like yeah everything is very difficult on earth but maybe there's more maybe there's more than
than meets the eye and if there isn't transformers we can all be nice to everybody and and and uh
and everything but then maybe someday fox news will get attacked by aliens. Right. Oh, for sure.
That's happening.
And look, and I don't care if that's 100% true.
So I don't know if that's underrated or I guess I just was like,
I was just trying to think of a way to say that.
Yeah.
No, I think that's absolutely profound and true thought.
Yeah.
The first step towards ending your own suffering, right,
is to just sort of think less of yourself as being like the fucking star of this tragedy.
I'm not good at that.
I'm not good at doing that.
Oh, yeah.
But I'm aspiring to do it.
What's the difference between us and the ants that you step on unwittingly and end that ant's life?
I mean, it's like a shortcut to wisdom because they say, like, the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know.
they say like the more you learn the more you realize how little you know and this is by accepting the fact that there's all these huge mysteries out there that we know nothing about
that that's a shortcut to understanding like your place as a speck in yeah when the Dalai Lama turns
out to be a moron you gotta look to the skies that's point. When the Dalai Lama is canceled, you look to the skies.
Yeah, I don't even...
Better be a Dalai Mama after, or nobody's fucking with her.
I think the Dalai Lama, you know, I was suspicious of him when he was hanging out with Richard
Gere.
Right.
Years ago.
What is a myth?
What's something people think is true you know too much?
Oh, I was gonna say overrated, but I guess I did them both at once.
So then I'll do a myth is that people with cute socks are fun people.
I love that myth.
I think the biggest sociopaths in the world use cute socks as a way to disguise or to try.
Right, to get a Venus flytrap.
Yeah, you'll meet the most sociopathic hedge fund motherfucker.
Right.
And he'll be wearing the cutest socks you ever saw.
Right.
And I'm just telling you, ladies, I'm wearing white socks right now.
Yeah.
They're not cute.
What brand are those?
They say DOC on them.
That's cool.
What brand is that?
That's CBGML.
That's my cold brew got me like tube socks.
What brand is that?
That's CBGML.
That's my cold brew got me like tube socks.
So I just want to let you know that I am a nice person with nothing.
I have no money or anything because I am a nice person.
And, you know, my socks are normal.
And it's my way of saying I will treat you right. And if I was wearing socks that had little typewriters on them, or I don't know what
people get on their socks, you better watch out for me because I'm trying to compensate
for some evil shit that I got.
Also, sometimes I do wear cute socks and I'm still nice.
But it doesn't mean that's a thing.
Where's the line?
You know, where's the line?
That's you don't know.
I would say draw the line when the guy you're dealing with with the cute socks is a fucking
creep.
I would say if the guy you're with is a creep, that's where you should draw the line.
And don't let his cute socks factor into, well, he's a creep, but he wears those cute socks.
So now it's more like, don't let cute socks dilute the creep factor.
I'm just saying cute socks have been weaponized by bad people.
And you know what?
I don't care if that's 100% true or not.
I'll fuck with that.
I'm never going to get out of that one.
I love that.
I don't care if it's 100% true.
That was 100% a real thing I said, too.
I know.
You know what I mean, though.
Even if it's
super far out and I know it's bullshit,
I still like to try and stick with it.
Just try it out. Just for the fun.
Yeah, for sure. Why not?
Alright, we're going to go to a quick
break. We'll be right back.
Daphne Caruana Galizia
was a Maltese investigative journalist
who on October 16th, 2017
was murdered.
There are crooks everywhere you look now.
The situation is desperate.
My name is Manuel Delia.
I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption
that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
And she paid the ultimate price.
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how did this become my brand uh let's talk about the democratic field real quick guys uh
biden was hurt by his performance in the Democratic debates.
Kamala Harris was helped. But it's interesting, Politico was writing about this and the fact that
Kamala Harris vaulted to second place overall in the polls.
In Iowa, right? Was it Iowa specifically or this is a national?
I think it was overall. I think this is a national poll.
Oh, gotcha. But then they also broke it out by over 45 and under 45.
And it's crazy how it's basically diametric opposites.
It goes for people over 45, it goes Biden at 29, Harris 17, Warren 13, Sanders 8.
Biden at 29, Harris 17, Warren 13, Sanders 8.
And for people under 45, it goes Sanders 21%, Harris 18, Warren 17, and then Biden 13.
So, yeah, it makes me wonder how much of Biden or people's fear of Bernie is, you know, pre-Cold War conditioning, where it's just like socialism bad, communism bad.
Well, I think also, too, there's still that, you know, not all Democratic voters aren't
super woke, too.
And Biden is still kind of like, oh, yes, a like older Christian white man is still
in charge.
And they like that version of like what the president is.
Right.
And I think seeing,
he looks like all the presidents.
Yeah,
exactly.
And I think just for the same reasons,
other people sort of like,
I think at a certain age,
they just aren't willing to say things like out loud.
I think like when you look at even how the support goes,
if you ask those people,
like,
well,
what about Biden's record on these things that for people of color,
any people who are just sort of aware of some of the problematic policies that Biden supported, they're like, well, what about Biden's record on these things that for people of color or any people who are just sort of aware of some of the problematic policies that Biden supported?
They're like, it doesn't really matter. Right.
Like, so they're not in touch with that as being like a third rail issue, whereas other voters are.
And I think that just sort of shows like they're like, yeah, that's like a thing that only like people I don't know worry about.
Yeah. I think Biden's a safe. I mean, obviously what they're trying to they're trying to make
biden the candidate right but i mean the the the wealthy uh dnc people right and uh what do you
what is he's doing he's still the front runner right he's still in front overall but he he was
in front by like huge percentages before the debates and he took a huge, huge hit.
It's basically coming down to like more neck and neck.
Like he's up four percentage points as opposed to like 14, 20 percentage points in polls.
And then after those top four, by the way, I was surprised to see the next closest in this poll is mayor pete with four
percent so he's fallen off yeah it depends like other polls he's definitely getting a bigger share
also so it all it all kind of varies but i think when you look at just sort of his performance in
the debate and how much twitter engagement there was with him after and like how much googling of
him occurred too right people are just finding out about it sounds like he's yeah there's starting to percolate a little bit over
there on that side yeah it's so hard to really get your head around that people are going to
vote for donald trump again that i can't it's like their own democrats into i don't they don't know
what to do because and i don't blame them i i am a democrat i guess if i i think
the two-party system is is designed to ruin everything really because there's no such thing
as a democrat or a republican there's just people who have usually overlapping views in a bunch of
areas but that because we're all you know controlled by the media thank you um uh the you know that that you know we've been effectively divided in half against you know because controlled by the media. Thank you. You know, we've been effectively divided in half against, you know,
because we don't know anything better.
I mean, we can't get out of it anyway.
But as far as I don't understand, the Democrats are confused
because they're like, we got this guy that's just horrible
and because the economy is doing well and because people are, it's not even doing well. That's just horrible. And because the economy is doing well and because people are – it's not even doing well.
That's the thing.
It's not even – it's doing well for Wall Street.
It's doing well for –
And even then a lot of investment banks are like, there's probably a good chance a recession is going to hit at some point.
So Democrats are just in a bad spot.
And I think that the best they can hope for is that – I mean, but Biden sucks.
I mean, I'm sorry.
You know, Biden is not the right guy, you know, but he's better than Trump.
So it's like, right.
Right.
That's where we'll see.
I mean, we'll see what shakes out in the debates.
And I know a lot of it, too, is like for Trump to really get defeated,
they really need to energize like that cross section of women, people of color,
and like very progressive
voters.
And when you can get all of those people together, then you have something a little bit better.
Like a lot of people of color were not energized in the last election or motivated to vote.
Yeah.
And so that's why it's interesting to see some of these candidates, like especially
with like the support Kamala Harris has from black voters is a, I think she's only second to Biden.
Biden still has a good chunk of support there.
Right.
But his lead with black voters has gone from like 20 something percent to like 4%.
I guess getting the vote out is the most important thing.
If we could get more progressives to the polls or just young,
anybody who the brain to vote against the old people are going to vote for Trump
because that looks like, as you said, looks moral.
To them, they're like, that's what a president's supposed to look like, a white guy.
And the old people are the ones that vote, and that's why they don't get their benefits
fucked with.
The reason why the old people are all stocked up on Medicare and everything else is because
they know they're the ones that go to the damn polls.
And they'll fuck with everybody else because they know they don't vote well that's a line obama says is i wouldn't let my grandparents uh or i guess you wouldn't
let your grandparents pick your music so why would you let them pick your president that's great
that's that's perfect when that but that's why you also see i mean we've talked about before like
how much more gen z voters are actually engaged even more than millennials in terms of like their
turn on the midterms and so so, you know, younger voters.
Yeah.
Hold the phone.
Yeah.
Hold the frigging cell phone.
I'm older than I even thought.
I knew I was old.
Hold that clear telephone you got in the magazine drive.
But yeah, like, I mean, younger voters are definitely coming out in full force and at
a bigger, you know, they're a bigger chunk of the electorate by the time 2020 rolls
around. So yeah, it'll be interesting. So what one other way that people are gauging, you know,
support for the different Democratic candidates is how much money they raised. And you were saying
that one of the kind of big headlines, one of the indicators that looks good for the fifth place
candidate, Mayor Pete, is how much money he raised last quarter.
Yeah, $24 million last quarter.
That's pretty big.
Yeah.
And I think Obama in 2008 was something around this mark too.
Right, and there were like five candidates.
Yeah, which is interesting, you know, obviously,
because like he's definitely, I mean,
Bernie Sanders also put out his numbers on Tuesday
and he said he also has $24 million, but $18 million came from small dollar donations and then they were transferring another $6 million from other accounts to this new $24 million amount.
So Mayor Pete is out fundraising Bernie at the moment. But I think when you look at sort of where his money is coming from, people from the Bernie campaign were saying that the most common occupation of contributors were, quote, teachers and the most common employer was Walmart.
Right.
And I think that shows because he's had a lot to say about that and he's actually connecting with a lot of those more blue-collar voters that I think is also something elizabeth warren is trying to tap into
as well but you know with with mayor pete i think he's playing the high dollar circuit he's like yo
come one come all you want to write a fat fucking check i'm here for it yeah you know elizabeth
warren and bernie have a much different model they don't want to do that because they don't
want to feel beholden to any donors um so you can take from that what you will but really i mean at
this point your money is just gonna predict how
long you can stay in the race right you know like i think some people are like oh wow he raised all
this money this guy's a shoo-in but like when you're really when all that money's starting to
be spent and trying to stay in the campaign you know it's just when the more money you have to
burn the longer you can keep it going so right you know yeah how does that is is bernie doing the um
or who's doing uh is he doing individual donations still or is he taking big money?
No, no, he's doing individual.
Individual, yeah.
And so is Warren?
Him and Elizabeth Warren, yeah.
No PAC money, nothing like that.
We just got to get Trump out of office because it's making everybody so fucking miserable.
I mean, anybody with a brain.
And it's so hard to have a narrative narrative to even think straight with him in office i mean it's so upside down when you have
people saying that he's brought back he's brought so much corruption so much naked corruption yeah
and and people are still um saying that this guy's doing the best job of any president.
You know, you've got some old white people being like, not even just old white people,
just misinformed people saying this is where we want to be.
And it's like, it's so disappointing and like confusing that I think it's made the whole
country disoriented.
And I just want him out of office so people can at least feel like there's a hope for
the future, whether it's with even with a corporate fool like Biden, you know, anybody besides Trump.
It's just just for the sake of everyone's brain to feel like there's a way forward.
Sure.
Like a building, because it's like having some having a guy in office who patently is
corrupt and having everyone half the country being like he's doing a great job is just
making everybody feel horrible.
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, there's no like, you know, we don't know what solid ground is yeah is there a through
line yeah i mean i know life is random and everything but still the the having some sort
of path to the future makes you you got to feel like you're on some kind of i mean when you're
at a spot where you've got a guy who's that corrupt and everybody's it's a weird situation because we're waking up to the
fact that the current the system at its heart like what in neutral the normal version of the system
is pretty corrupt it does not look out for uh disadvantaged people people of color like it just
doesn't uh look out for minorities and and then we're also waking up to that while we have somebody who is way more corrupt than the status quo of the corrupt system in office.
And so it's, yeah, it is a weird kind of situation to be in where you're like, no, no, even the normal status quo isn't good enough where a lot of people are just going to be like, well, yeah, but it's better than this shit. Sure. And there's still people like getting crushed by capitalism too,
and are still trying to figure it out. And you have people like, if you're older and you have
a nice little retirement egg to sit on, it's easy to think that this president's doing great because
nothing is really affecting you. You're insulated by your wealth. And then there are people who
might not have that insulation with a total lack of
wealth, but they've bought the hook, line, and sinker Koch brothers, whatever far right argument
of sort of like, oh, well, you're not being crushed by the system because of rich people.
It's because of illegal aliens. So that feeds their xenophobia because they can't make sense
of like, wait, is it the boss of my plant who I should be mad at? Or some sort of monolithic
threat that i'm just
being told right to fear i just realized one i'll say one quick thing uh because i'm sure we have to
move on but i i just wanted to say i was thinking the other day i was talking to my mother actually
i was visiting uh nashville and i was talking to my mom and and she's an old uh woman uh and
how old the fuck she's gonna listen to this she's a young woman um
nice good safe she's a young woman and uh anyway i was talking to her about this
and i was just saying the reason finally i realized why is everybody so mad that
that people in you know in like concrete bunker or you know in dog cages are going to get a free
toothbrush right and it's because since the
late 80s or maybe before that but certainly since when i was a kid in the job market this they took
away pensions they took they made temp jobs 50 hour a week jobs with no benefits so the reason
why it's not that people don't want they've managed to make everyone else so poor and so without hope
that if they see a baby getting a free toothbrush, it pisses them off because they're like, I
have to pay for my toothbrush.
But it's not that they're, if we were able to talk about the fact that it's the fact
that everyone else has been stripped of everything that makes, because it used to be like, of
course poor people get free shit. They weren't mad because everyone else has been stripped of everything that makes, because it used to be like, of course poor people get free shit.
They weren't mad because everyone else had more shit.
Now everybody's like, I have nothing.
Why do they get a free washcloth?
Like that's the source of the disconnect
and why people are like, I'm mad at poor people
because they get free stuff.
And they get the, they're getting miserable shit.
But the thing is that those, you get it.
They get the bare minimum.
And I think that's why also it's important to have candidates that are connecting people's sort of helplessness and hopelessness and tying that to actually what is happening in the economy and financially.
And Joe Biden isn't the kind of candidate who's going to be like, you know why it's like that?
Because Wall Street is conducting all the business.
A lot of our banking regulations are being dictated by people who leave these investment banks and now work in the government and things like that. There isn't.
So the candidates that are able to connect those ills that we experience, I think are going to do
better just like, because even when Trump was running, he was kind of running on this fake
populist shit where he was like, right. Yeah, man, it's all fucked up. Right. I'm going to fix this
shit. Actually, I'm going to make it worse. But I think when you have candidates who are actually able to sort of help people connect the dots and to understand
what the real problems are in this country or what the real threats to you are, that's just
a little more education that I think the general voting population needs to be in touch with just
for us to have any kind of progress, because I don't think it's going to happen just out of the
blue like that. People have to really understand like, what are the forces at work?
Yeah.
Last week, we were looking at an article that we didn't end up getting to on air,
but it was a bunch of Republicans analyzing, like, what they think.
It's Republican political strategists who specifically got the last campaign wrong.
And they were talking about what they missed about Trump
and who has the best chance at overcoming that. And their takeaway was that it was like just giving like not giving people enough
credit for you know the the thing that people got excited about was that he basically promised to do
like populist shit and then he also you know appealed to their you know racist side but it's
not like i don't think it's purely a personality thing like no because he was telling
people it's like we can do all basically sort of saying like we can do the things that the left
does but we'll brand it as our own version right that will still treat you with respect so it's
like obamacare fuck that we'll do a better version right and they're like great it's like so then
it's like well it's not really the fact that it was this government subsidized healthcare that I didn't like. It's that I don't like where it was
coming from. So now we can have ownership over a program that will help me. Right. And I think,
yeah, sure. I think it's easy to say it was personality when you don't want to give up the
ghost that it's like, yeah, a lot of people are saying a lot of shit has to change very drastically. Yeah. So, I mean, we were already talking about it,
but the border crisis is, you know, constantly in the news,
constantly in people's minds.
And border patrol is specifically, you know,
getting a lot of attention and not in a very positive way because of the way,
you know, the conditions that people are finding these children being
treated with.
I mean, there was the situation where there was a lice outbreak among children at one
holding facility and they were like quibbling over, they got mad at some of the kids for
losing one of the lice combs.
Right.
And they're like, now you have to use the same comb.
It's like, do you know, do you understand how lice works?
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, use the same lice comb like do you know do you understand how lice works right yeah exactly yeah use the same lice comb it's fucked up so a couple days ago pro publica released a investigation into
this secret facebook group yeah full of current and former border patrol agents where they are
just vile fucking racists just joking about the deaths of immigrants uh talking about throwing burritos
at uh alexandria ocasio-cortez photoshopping uh aoc to make it look like she's having sex with
trump and uh immigrants and just the worst like your worst nightmare of what an armed person at a
who's dealing with these people who's dealing
with these people would be is like just all over the place in this uh facebook group yeah and they
have i mean the already people are like you know i think a lot of these border patrol people if
they really have a conscience you shouldn't go to work right you know and i think when you look at
that facebook group you're like oh these people it seems like there is certainly contingent of people who work in border patrol who are getting
off on seeing this kind of just inhumane treatment of people who are seeking asylum.
And yeah, after a few Congress people visited a lot of the detention facilities on Monday,
we were hearing more just sort of stories. A woman said she was being told to drink from the toilet.
You know, we were hearing more just sort of stories.
A woman said she was being told to drink from the toilet.
You know, a woman told Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that, you know, was describing the treatment from these officers as psychological warfare. Like they were just waking them up at odd hours, just saying really fucked up things, saying sexually suggestive things.
And there was no support for even like children who only spoke indigenous languages.
Like if they
didn't speak english or spanish like i don't know what to tell you kid yeah like and everything
around this is just looking awful and awful and awful and it's funny how like the right sort of
they're they're done with their oh she called him concentration camps outrage and they're now kind
of like now trying to sort of i guess recontextualize what's going on is like, hey, these guys are just doing their job.
Right.
You know, and that was something we heard on Fox and Friends where the great Brian Kilmeade was just like, I mean, we should think about.
I hate that guy so much.
We should think of these poor Customs and Border Patrol officers.
Okay, here's the thing.
Picture yourself, you have a house, family of five, you have a party, you have 30 people over.
Maybe you have a big party, you have 100 people over, and you have two and a half baths.
In the beginning, it would be okay with 30.
Then after 100 people, it would be a little bit taxed.
Maybe you've got to get an outdoor facility.
Can you picture 5,000?
You could have the best facilities in the world, but they are so overstocked. 670,000 have come here illegally already. They had 89,000 last
month, the month before 130,000 coming illegally. They have facilities that hold hundreds, not
tens of thousands. And now you're going to walk down there with the facilities that they
gave, that they're not pulling out of their pocket, their uniforms you gave them, and
say the facilities are not right.
Okay.
So it's a house party at these concentration camps.
Right.
It's just like a house party.
We just would like only two bathrooms.
You know, we've all been to that bar.
Right.
That's got the one bathroom.
Right.
But they left 300 people in here.
Right.
Also, he said overstocked.
Yeah.
He did.
Oh, boy.
He doesn't even know. He's an idiot. Oh, boy. He doesn't even know what he's...
He's an idiot.
No, 100%.
He's a fucking idiot.
And just like this rhetoric they use, illegally, illegally, illegally.
These people are seeking fucking asylum.
Right.
And they're presenting themselves in a way that we're saying, okay, this is how you do it.
Yeah.
Here's a problem that's actually happening that we have all these people coming for whatever reason.
They're coming coming they are coming
they are here they are people right so you fucking put all the resources you can to immediately
trying to put these people in a safe place yeah i mean that's as simple as that we have money in
this country we spend 640 billion dollars a year on our defense right like this is not i don't care if the
facilities initially are like oh you have a two and a half bed well yeah okay first of all
if you have a house with two and a half baths set up for the for the for the people seeking
asylum in america you fucked up brian kilmeade right you dumbass well I think in general, we just don't need to be detaining these people.
Right.
Because a lot of the statistics show us that people who do seek asylum and have to show
up for these court hearings do come back.
They're not like, hey, you cut them loose and then they're in your lake house.
This is the thing.
This is reality.
Reality is the...
What do they...
Again, with the overstock imagery uh trump calls it catch and
release which is like a fishing term yeah sounds disgusting yeah um and yeah i mean it's disgusting
it's important to keep in mind like they they don't want to you know uh let the fact in that
the trump administration uh specifically has said they are doing this on purpose to dissuade more people from coming to
the country like they're intentionally treating these children like shit yeah because they want
to stop people from coming into the country and it's not working more and more people are coming
yeah and it's like oh how come you're not rounding up uh illegal white immigrants in this country
right weird because that's also a thing that exists,
but that's completely left out of their discourse
because these are cruel fucking monsters.
What about the idea that just the simple idea
that if you're traveling to another country on foot or however they're...
Yeah, on foot.
With a baby and things like that, you're not you're already at a point.
You've made a decision that where you're coming from is so bad.
This whole the whole idea, the argument should be made by the Democrats that there is no dissuading a person who's desperate.
There's no such that doesn't enter into the fact that doesn't factor in.
You don't dissuade people from.
or in. You don't dissuade people from...
Surviving. It's like when the global warming happens
and people have to move out of
the desert that used to be
New Jersey or whatever, you're not going to be able to
dissuade them from moving out
because you make
Maryland suck.
I mean, I don't know. It doesn't make
any sense. Step one to being a conservative
is to ignore the actual
foreign policy history of this country and then just treat everything like it's in a vacuum.
Don't look by any means of how that entire region of the country was completely destabilized by the United States and their thirst to keep socialist leaders out and things like that.
And that was like the soft way to spread American – the empire basically during the Cold War. It's like,
well, let's make sure all these people are in our pocket too. And we don't care what the cost is to
the stability of those countries or their economies and things like that. We'll have them under our
thumb, create situations where now people have to flee and then act like, oh, I don't know why
the fuck they're coming up here. Yeah. There's one post that I have to read from the 1015
Facebook group where someone posted the picture that was on the front
page of the New York Times of the young father and his two-year-old child floating face down.
They just drowned. And this person posted that image and said, okay, I'm going to go ahead and
ask, have y'all ever seen floaters this clean? I'm not trying to be an ass, but I have never seen
floaters like this. Could this be another edited photo? We've all seen the Dems and liberal parties
do some pretty sick things. So just to emphasize, they are, first of all, he's just not able to,
or they're just not able to let the reality of the situation in. Yeah. But at the same time, he is referring to dead children as floaters.
Yeah.
So it's a casual enough, it's a common enough thing
that he's calling them floaters while also acting like
this picture must be faked because they're too clean.
Well, that would force them to be a little introspective, wouldn't it?
If you had to sit there and say, oh, my God.
You could like write.
I'm looking at a situation where somebody was so desperate to get here,
they perished in pursuit of trying to have a better life.
Right.
But I'm going to just go and be like, let me just fucking plug my ears
and be like, this is probably in Photoshop or something. Because something because you know if i had to really think about that then
you know yeah maybe i'm the fucking evildoer well the i i the only thing i don't understand
and i do understand it because i mean apparently the democrats just recently
like petitioned the the trump administration to loosen the rules on derivatives.
Did you hear about this?
I don't know.
The initiatives that they've been working on,
lowering property taxes for Democrats,
I mean, they're not focusing.
This should be the issue,
should be the issue,
not because it's a political issue,
but if you are a humane person,
everything should be going toward. because it's a political issue but if you are a humane person everything should be going toward yeah they're because years from now the stories of sexual abuse that are to
come out of those fucking camps is insane you can't put people you know the stanford prison
experiment yeah you put people who are like glorified dmv workers in charge of children and
and and the psychology that happens is they start bullying each other
into being less and less sensitive.
So they say floaters and then someone else, just like in high school,
like I'm going to act less sensitive and that's going to make me even cooler
than the person who calls them floaters.
So I'm going to call them sacks of potatoes or whatever it is.
Right. Yeah.
I mean, there's the thing where when you're,
it's setting up a. Yeah. I mean, there's the thing where when you're, when you, it's setting up a situation where,
I mean, there have already been stories of,
that's the thing that concerns me the most is that they have these unvetted people
taking care of children.
And where, it's been proven before
that pedophiles, they don't get a chance to,
this is something they will gravitate toward.
They will try to get these jobs.
They will build their entire lives and careers.
And this is not something I'm making up.
This is a real fact.
This is like an opportunity.
Jerry Sandusky had been doing a children's charity from the time he was in his 30s.
like the time he was in his 30s,
like he built his whole career and his entire reputation to put himself in a position because that's what predators do.
They are like animal predators who have been fully evolved
to take advantage of any situation that will allow them to prey.
Yeah, so it's just that should be the focus of everything,
and I think that the progressives could win the election just based on we are not monsters.
Well, yeah, and I think this is something we're going to have to wrestle with with our history too.
When we look back at this and like, I mean, just pick any photo recently of what these facilities look like.
And you have to grapple with the fact that it's like that's being done on our dime.
You know, like that's where, like, we're part of this and what can, what, what, what can we do to stop this?
Because I know, uh, it's so easy to just get very, uh, just sort of helpless about the whole thing.
But yeah, like you say, I think we really need to confront our neighbors with this idea of like,
like you say, I think we really need to confront our neighbors with this idea of like, this is what is being done in the name of this country, like this kind of evil. And I don't know how many people
can, you know, I think a lot of people are going to do the comfortable thing and just try and figure
out ways to be like, well, you know, it's probably this one thing and oh God, it is bad. But like,
no, like we have to fucking really look at this and just be like, this is being done in the name
of this country, like many other terrible fucking things things but this thing is on our soil and then how are we going to
answer for that as a as a society we are powerless i mean this is the thing and this is why people
fucking instead because they're like how am i going to help these children and they can't
fucking do it they're like maybe we should go down there with bolt cutters yeah that's not
going to happen you'll fucking get shot you cannot congress people are having a hard time getting into these camps well they're funding it
you know what i mean you know the only way unfortunately um and that's why everybody's
like well i want to take care of the kids but instead i'm going to get mad at nike or whatever
it's like you know that's misplaced i get that the the instinct is good well if i'm powerless
in this area then i'm going to be powerful in this other area that's ultimately fucking just
compensating for the fact that i know I can't free these kids.
But the one thing you can do is everyone should be calling every single representative in this country nonstop saying, make this stop.
Make this stop.
You will have sexual abuse on your hands.
You will have Abu Ghraib times a million on this.
You know, that's the reality.
And I wish there was a way to go down there with bolt cutters, you know,
but there's not.
We have been, you'll get, you'll end up in, you know, you can't do,
we've set up a military industrial police force.
You're not going to get anywhere near those camps.
But the only way we can rely,
the only people we can rely on are people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
and people who are actually making noise about it.
That's the best thing to do.
Yeah.
And the Republicans coming back with these lame, they still, they sound bad.
They sound bad saying fucks.
It sounds awful to be like, oh, well, it's really just like this.
It's not.
Like, oh, what about the people that work there?
I'm sorry.
Well, it's funny, too, because even in Brian Kilmeade's little fucking dumb take
when he's like, oh, and then, like, you want to show up when, like, the facilities are so bad.
It's like, okay, so then you do acknowledge that the state that these facilities are in are actually unacceptable,
right? Right. Therefore, then what? Your administration, which you are a part of the
Trump administration, created these conditions. So what is your point? I mean, look, they need,
and they need to put all these customs and border patrol people, like they need to also be
accountable. I don't care if we're just, they shouldn't just be going after people at the top like right if you're
participating in this actively you need to fucking also be accountable for this yeah and then brian
kill me fucking after he gets done giving his hot take based on nothing he fucking pulls out his
goddamn peanut butter and jelly with the crust cut off out his backpack fucking eats it in the
corner and he doesn't have a single friend i can guarantee you that guy doesn't have a single friend.
Well, not online.
I've got a lot of people online.
In real life?
No, online.
That guy must have, I'd hate to see his apartment.
I bet it's got like a, I bet he has a jukebox with like God smack on it.
In his house, you know what I mean?
Like rich people get, he's rich as shit.
So I bet he's got a jukebox.
It's made of marble.
And I bet the shit on it is so fucking bad. I bet he's got like save a horse, bet he's got a jukebox. It's made of marble. I bet the shit on it is so fucking bad.
I bet he's got Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy on his jukebox.
He has parties and nobody shows up.
He eats all the dip by himself.
Brian Kilmeade's jukebox.
The most hopeless cultural artifact.
I want there to be a reality show, Brian Kilmeade's apartment.
Yeah.
All right.
His palace.
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Booyah, indeed.
We're going to switch gears.
That was a cold brew booyah.
To Jeremy Renner.
We talked last week about a clip he teased
that had everybody just anticipating, just drenching our bench for his eventual release of his first original song.
Drenching our bench?
Yeah.
God damn.
I've never heard that before.
Get it tatted.
Let's hear the, I guess it's a teaser trailer for the song.
What's the song called again?
I think it's called Is Unpredictable I Gotta Tell You.
I don't have a name.
I don't got a name.
Okay, sure.
What is it, a rap song?
Well, no, just listen.
So, Chris, you know, you're a musician, you know,
and let's just listen to the vocal style.
Is this part of the Spider-Man soundtrack or something?
Or is there no reason for it?
No.
This is a rich guy with free time.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
So unpredictable, I gotta tell you.
Never be the same.
Heaven don't have a name.
What?
So unpredictable, I gotta tell you.
What was the last thing he said, though?
Shannon don't got a...
It was heaven don't got a name.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah.
Nailed it.
It does, too.
I mean, it's unpredictable, I gotta tell you.
Wait a minute.
I don't understand.
Can you just play that again one more time? Can you just play that again? So unpredictable, I gotta tell you. Wait a minute. I don't understand. Can you just play that again one more time?
Play that again.
So unpredictable, I gotta tell you.
Never be the same.
Heaven don't have a name.
It's so unpredictable, I gotta tell you.
It'll never be the same, because heaven don't got a name.
First of all, I thought he said gender don't have a name.
I thought it was Shannon don't have a name.
That's my sister's name. But you can't say something that doesn't have a name. I thought it was Shannon don't have a name. That's my sister's name.
But you can't say something that doesn't have a name right after you say the name of it.
Right.
It's like that feeling of seeing someone fail and you love it.
That doesn't have a name, schadenfreude.
Here's what I think.
Now, this is something that somebody else captured of him singing in the shower with
a drone with a microphone on it.
No.
Nope.
So someone took a drone.
Here's what I think happened.
Someone took a drone and flew it outside Jeremy Renner's shower.
Okay.
With a big microphone on it and caught that little snippet of him soaping himself up.
This is in studio.
Self-release.
And I don't care if it's 100% true.
But based on the video I saw saw it looks at least 98%
true this is a video he
approved okay
and then once it goes into the
Imagine Dragons shit
it starts like showing all
these like blinking colors
and then it's just like a glamour
shot of him like looking off into the
distance okay so this is a cry for help this him like looking off into the distance. Okay. So this is a
cry for help. This is like he's going to be in rehab
in like five minutes. It's like what happens when you're
rich and you have a hobby
and you have free time, you just act
it out all the way out. And you're like, he's
probably, you know, wanted to be a
rock star his whole life. Acting
acts, you know, is probably the
biggest tragedy in his life that his acting career took
off rather than him being a musician.
And I was like,
well, now I got all this money to do my
I'm a digno,
I gotta tell you.
Okay.
That's shower singing.
Okay.
Well, how about this?
Why don't we listen to this finished?
And it sounds like it was recorded in the shower.
So wait, by the way,
he tweeted that video
with the words, I think,
like, come in soon.
Yeah.
Something.
Dot, dot, dot.
Prepare your name.
I sing that kind of stuff
exactly like that in the shower like that exact thing
yeah like oh yeah you know like i'll be scrubbing up uh i'll be scrubbing up
yeah i mean that's like well okay listen mr conditioner i got you know mr conditioner
coming down the pike all right you know what know what I mean? Like that same shit.
I love that song.
When it's dripping down your back.
Dripping down my back.
Mr. Conditioner.
Going down my crack.
Mr. Conditioner doesn't have a name.
Conditioner.
Let's play the finished product, the release track.
Since we last spoke about this, because when we last spoke about it, we had only heard
what we just heard, which is the teaser.
He has released the song.
I love how songs have teasers now.
Well, Jeremy Renner songs.
Welcome to the Spotify.
A trailer for the world's worst song.
And we now have his first original song
because he had already released a couple covers
that are just unspeakable.
House of the Rising Sun.
House of the Rising Sun.
Like every person who auditions for The Voice.
That's a good idea.
Right.
And by Crash Test Dummies.
Yes.
Are you kidding me?
He covered that.
So he's having a full-on breakdown.
Why?
You don't like that song?
Well, no.
Jeremy Renner's covering that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's got some kind of, he's got a brain tumor.
He's living in a, He lives in a weird space.
He sends Christmas cards out every year to members of the Hollywood Foreign Press,
and my mom has one of his Christmas cards.
It's always him by himself, and it has nothing to do with Christmas.
It just looks like a guy who's like, hey, it's me.
It's December.
Here's a card.
I feel bad for celebrities sometimes.
Well, okay.
Let's not judge. He probably lives celebrities sometimes Well okay Let's not judge
He probably lives in a volcano
Let's not judge a teaser
By it's sound
Let's judge a track
By it's final mix
In Master
Okay
All I remember
She grew up in Atlanta
But she moved to the bay
An uptown beauty
You could never escape
Heaven don't have a name Let's hear that line again She keeps it old school Who do you have to write this for?
Let's hear that line again.
Ooh!
Damn. All right, turn it off. Heaven don't have a name.
Damn.
All right, turn it off.
I can already see a fucking Dodge fucking truck going over a hill of dirt.
What?
The lyrics are so weird.
Like something from Georgia, but she's from the Bay and fucking heaven don't have a name.
It starts out with him saying the only thing I remember is is she is from the Bay but grew up in Atlanta.
Yeah.
That's the only thing you remember?
But I didn't realize he was going to hit that falsetto.
So unpredictable, I gotta tell you.
Yeah.
Yeah, he didn't even use the track
that made it into the song for the teaser
because he knew you were going to be expecting. Exactly exactly unless that's part of the pre-chorus and that's just what we get like in
the second time the chorus comes around because he's really trying to build for a nice release
into the chorus that song sounds like if i'm producing you know that song sounds like cocaine
right that's cocaine that's cocaine all by yourself with some dude that is producing
yeah like you're hanging out with some dude that is producing.
Yeah. Like you're hanging out with this dude.
Who doesn't know the word no.
Yeah.
You met him at the Skybars.
I don't know.
What's the current?
No, the Mondrian Skybar.
Yeah, yeah.
He met some guy who was like, yeah.
And he was like.
Yeah, dude.
He's like, I can produce your shit.
What do you got?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What do you got, man?
Yeah.
And he's like, well, I got this thing.
She's uptown from the bay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's from the bay.
Fucking bay.
Yeah, from the fucking bay bay heaven don't have it
that's fucking incredible i can put so many sound effects on that thing with my laptop i'm gonna
come over hey man is your car here can we should we fucking uber there i don't know man i got i
have a fucking hard drive full of sounds i can bring over man that's like fucking fucking you
know people like jeremy renner end up living in houses with no furniture and just like cocaine.
And that's what happens to.
He is a house flipper, as we talked about.
He bragged about how he's like one of America's great house flippers and makes like millions off of it.
Woo.
His this Hollywood reporter interview is really goes to what what you're kind of speaks to what you're talking about.
He talks about being a pacifist and how he's never been in a fight in,
at the beginning of the interview.
And then by the end,
he tells this anecdote and I quote,
this guy chokes me with the scarf I was wearing.
He called me a because I was wearing a scarf.
Then he shoved my sister and I got behind him and I choked him out,
put him to sleep.
Permanently.
What? What the fuck?
What the fuck?
I'm a pacifist, dude.
Those are better lyrics than the song.
Yeah.
Right.
He should have said all that in a song.
Then I choked him out.
Permanently.
I took a scarf.
This man stepped to me at the Mondrian.
I was wearing a scarf.
Yeah.
So. That's ridiculous. Yeah. So.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah, well, look, Jeremy Renner, man.
Countdown to rehab.
Get ready.
Five, four, three.
He strikes me as someone who fucking is just off the realness of his life, just flying.
I feel like that, too.
I don't think he's, I don't think this is a drug thing.
I think he has always, like.
It's his ego.
Yeah.
That's just,
he's,
he's on that Scientology shit,
but his own Scientology.
No,
he's not.
But he's got that,
like he's tapped in a whole other power source that we need to study.
Actually,
science needs to figure out what it is.
It could just be called the confidence of a white millionaire.
But if you could turn that into a pill.
Cool.
Super producer,
Anna Hosniak.
Cold brew has a similar effect.
You got it.
You got it.
Nailed it.
That's really weird.
It's like he's one of those guys that watched his own movie
and saw people look.
They think they're the person in the movie.
He thinks he's the person in the movie.
He's Hawkeye.
He's like, look at that movie.
I played a genius, so I'm a genius.
Right.
Man.
He's like, man, you want to see me fucking shoot this fucking arrow, dude, from fucking 200 meters?
Yeah, yeah. I should have fucking stabbed him, dude.
I'll fucking shoot the whole fucking thing right now, dude.
You trying to choke me with a scarf?
Don't you remember when I shot that arrow?
You didn't shoot.
All right, never mind, Hawkeye.
Yeah. hawkeye yeah actors are so strange because he's so terrifying and like in a completely different
way in the town it's just i don't even know what movies he's been in sicario doesn't matter yeah
is he solo sicario fucking game of thrones what isn't he in man come on uh he's not it's just a
game of thrones Come on Alright
He's also not in Solo
He was in the 100 games
You know that right
See the 100 games
Yeah fine
Doesn't matter if it's 100% true
He played Lando right
I really don't know
I saw him in one movie
Where those huge yams
Came down from outer space
And they talked to the squids
Arrival
Yeah
Oh yeah
And he played
He played the least convincing
Scientist of all time.
Or he said to stare at a fucking squid for fucking two hours.
Dude, those fucking huge yams.
Talking to the squids.
That movie, man.
Talk about like...
Talk about yams.
It seems important at the time, and then you leave,
and then you're like, never think about it again.
Yeah, I think the coolest thing was just like the real, the beginning.
But I'll watch it again. I, I think the coolest thing was just the beginning. But I'll watch it again.
I don't even remember it anymore,
but I just know that there were two white people staring at squids for an hour and a half.
I'll tell you, man, the whole movie is unpredictable, I got to tell you.
That's going to be going on.
That has been and will keep going on in the offices of the Zeitgeist.
Real quick, LA Times created a spicy snack power ranking list of prepackaged spicy snacks.
I don't know, man.
So it's on a matrix.
So you got your worst flavor to better flavor on one axis, the x-axis, and then the y-axis
is more heat to less heat.
Flaming Hot Cheetos puffs are the best
tasting hottest snack yeah but flaming hot doritos is the hottest apparently by a little bit is it
yeah look where it's plotted in terms of heat oh right or taste wait where are you looking man
flaming hot doritos oh that's the best taste, but in that more heat and taste area,
definitely has better flavor.
Look, I don't care because it's all about Flamin' Hot Cheetos.
I can't see the chart.
It's just weird stuff.
I don't want to see it.
Okay, sorry.
Oh, yo, shout out to Zapp's.
Crotators?
Have you had those?
Zapp's Crotators?
Oh, man, the fucking –
I remember we had an exchange thing with kids from Louisiana in my high school, and they brought Zaps crawtators, and I was fucking hooked.
The flavor.
Zaps spicy Cajun crawtators.
Not spicy at all, but the flavor, my lord.
So are these, are these like shrimp chips?
No, it's like the flavor of, like, you know of low country boil, basically, but in a chip.
Delicious.
So that's like crawdaddy potato chips.
Yes.
Got it.
Because, I mean, that's a thing.
Like seafood flavored crisps and other, not cookies, crackers is a big thing in Korean grocery stores.
Yeah, you have shrimp chips and shit like that.
Delicious.
But, yeah, I didn't even know they were Flamin' Hot Fritos.
I don't think those need to be Flamin' Hot.
I don't eat that stuff.
Just chili cheese.
I don't eat any of that stuff.
Flamin' Hot Fritos is in the worst possible.
They are low heat and worse flavor.
Yeah, the absolute worst seems to be Trader Joe's ghost pepper potato chips.
Yeah.
Also, Andy Capp's hot fries.
Woo.
Yeah, they have that in the worst flavor part.
I don't know.
I like Andy Capp's.
Those are addictive in a way that I can tell that they have figured something out because
I don't actively consciously like the taste, but I can't stop eating them.
It's called MSG.
Right.
It's like food scientists have just directly wired into some part of my brain. It's called MSG. Right. It's like food scientists have just like, you know, directly wired into some part of my brain.
It's called MSG.
Yo, food scientists.
That's where instead of, you know, curing our diseases,
that's where our best scientists are working right now.
I eat kettle corn.
There you go.
Attaboy.
Kettle corn.
Seafood flavored.
Seafood flavored kettle corn. I eat that low country boiled kettle corn. Seafood flavored. Seafood flavored kettle corn.
I eat that low country boiled kettle corn.
Oyster chips.
Yeah.
Low country boiled in that pot.
And then in that pot, you make your kettle corn.
Get all the residual.
Flaming hot kettle corn.
Chris, it's been a pleasure.
It's been so much fun to be back on.
Where can people find you?
You can find me at The Crofton Show on Twitter.
And you can find me at the Crofton show on Twitter and you can find me at
Instagram at Instagram.
You can find me on Instagram.
Chris underscore Crofton.
Oh,
the underscores that something I came up with.
And,
uh,
uh,
and,
that's about it.
You can find me on,
uh,
Oh,
and you can read my advice column,
the advice King,
which I've,
there's like 200 of them.
If you want to laugh all day long,
you go read those
fuck yeah those are great uh is there a tweet you've been enjoying oh i forgot about that so
uh no no i bet i know i bet i got one i bet i got one because i i retweeted uh you guys have her on
the show blair sake oh yeah yeah i the last thing i retweeted was, when someone punctuates their texts with periods,
it's like, why are you enraged?
Miles, where can people find you?
Follow me.
Find me.
Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey.
Also, shout out to the women's national team,
who is on their way, possibly, to going to the final.
I don't know.
Right now it's
two one two falling in closely uh you know but there are some arsenal ladies playing on the
england time england side so i'm also rooting for them but you know america first wait there's
ladies arsenal oh yeah oh nice we the best we the best in europe we the unlike the men's team uh
you find me follow that i said that okay some I like. There's just some reductress ones that I'm loving all over again.
This one is just, it's so stupid, but Chris, you might appreciate this one.
It just says, is he falling in love with you, or do you just own a rare synthesizer?
All my gear heads are like, well, yeah, she's got that cork.
Oh, here's one other one I liked.
I know this sounds like BS, a BS statistic, but apparently in the U.S. alone,
there are enough comedians for every single citizen of the U.S.
to have their own private comedian.
That's Henry Phillips.
That's really funny.
It's funny because it's true.
The other one is just so stupid because it's just this woman sort of smirking at the camera,
and the headline is just, allow me to set you up with some guy.
I don't even know why it's like some guy.
Some tweets I enjoyed.
Ben Schwartz at Rejected Jokes tweeted,
huge day for people who Photoshop different teams' jerseys on players
back on the first day of free agency
because that was all that was being posted.
Kellen at Captain Calvis tweeted, I just took a DNA test.
Turns out I'm 100% sure the CIA killed JFK.
And Megan Amran tweeted, whoever denied it, supplied it, also works with climate change.
I saw that as a good one.
Yeah.
Mike Leffingwell tweeted, my favorite part of The Rock is when Ed Harris visits his wife's
grave and her headstone says, his wife, which is real.
That's just Bechdel cast lore, though.
If you listen to my episode on The Rock on Bechdel cast, we go off on that part.
Oh, for real?
So, you know, shout out to my old improv teacher, Mike Leffingwell, but he's late.
That's how women define themselves, right?
His wife.
But he's late.
That's how women define themselves.
His wife!
And then finally, another Kellen at CaptainKelvis tweet.
I like Toy Story 4, but thought the scene where Woody bends over and slaps his bare ass and says, I'm a shitty little big boy, was a little much.
Which I agree.
That was the only part that I didn't love.
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where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as the song we write out on.
Miles, what is that song beat today?
It's called Before by Bibio.
Okay.
So put this in your pipe
and go outside
and enjoy the weather
wherever you are
and just, you know,
listen to the relaxing sounds.
It's hot.
Thank you guys so much
for having me again.
Oh, thanks for being here, man.
So fun.
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four of Naked Sports. Up first,
I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus
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