The Daily Zeitgeist - ReTrender The Zeitans 4/12: Sunset Park, Stranger Things, Gilbert Gottfried, Brittney Griner, BeReal, Father Stu
Episode Date: April 12, 2022In this edition of ReTrender The Zeitans, Jack and Miles discuss the Sunset Park shooting, the new season of Stranger Things, Gilbert Gottfried passing away, Brittney Griner STILL being detained in Ru...ssia, the new social media app 'BeReal', and the new film 'Father Stu'!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of retrender the zeitons
another one from fighter of the nightman yep which is a always sunny ref yeah there yeah
look at you uh yeah i'm just uh you know encyclopedic knowledge yeah
hanging with the gang well Well, I'm Jack.
I'm the old one.
And that there, well, that is Miles.
The less old one.
The less old one.
Anyways, some things that are trending, some horrifying shit in New York this morning.
There's a shooting in Brooklyn in Sunset Park on the subway.
Brooklyn and Sunset Park on the subway.
The NYPD
really dropping
the fuck out of the ball on this one.
My God.
I mean, Alec Karakatsanis
who's been on the show, he just did
a whole thread on Twitter. He's like,
check out the copaganda on the New York
Times already as a
result of this and i think yeah this is this is based on like the all the write-ups and twitter
and shit you can tell that this is just sparked a whole other conversation of y'all have an
basically an 11 billion dollar budget which would be considered in the top 10 of, if it was a military, the top 10 most well-funded
militaries on the planet, and what's happening with crime. I think the broader question is,
how do you spend the eighth largest army's worth of money in a year and you have crime just in
general does not go down. In fact, fact it goes up and then the solution that seems
to be constantly paraded out which is oh well we just need more cops um people are already saying
that at any given time there could be 3 500 nypd uh officers in the subways like that's just part
of their the division of manpower and we're i don't know i mean like that's why this is such a
like it just intersects with so many issues we're having whether it's guns or fucking you know the
police budgets or even eric adams who i'm sure would have loved to have been there but i think
he recently had covid so he can't go out in public yet um yeah yeah and police are still searching for the suspect. Yeah. And local schools have activated a shelter-in-place order.
So just a real nightmare that spending a large nation's military budget on police is not assuaging.
Yeah.
assuaging yeah i don't yeah also it seems it seems like one of those things that should shouldn't be easy to escape a mass shooting to perpetuate in you know when you talk about it like new york they
brag a lot they're like our cctv camera now works only second to fucking london and you're like holy
shit okay so that shit's locked down on video um and i'm sure you know whatever they'll find them but again like this
is why i think uh karakatsanis was you know pointing this out that i think if people had
the airtime or the platform to say this incident right now needs to actually begin a larger
discussion of what it what public safety is and how we achieve that. Because throwing all this money at it does not seem to be working at all.
So, you know, we shall see.
Ah, and Trisha, Super Producer Trisha,
saying that some of the security cameras in the subway station were down.
Huh.
Ah.
What are they spending that money on?
I don't know, dude.
Sick-ass windbreakers that say NYPD on it.
Yeah.
Stranger Things is trending because a new trailer is out for season four.
Everybody's too old to make sense anymore.
Although they're doing good.
Like, I didn't look at the trailer and be like,
yo, what are all these middle-aged...
It's not like Dawson's Creek,
where it's like...
That person has a five o'clock shadow.
Right, right.
Exactly.
Like, damn, Finn Wolfhard looks like
he's kicking heroin between his hands.
What the fuck happened to him?
Looking all gaunt and shit.
I've only seen the first season.
Did you like it?
Yeah, I liked it.
I thought it was like a fun homage.
I did not feel like there was enough there that was like,
oh, I want to see what they do with the rest of this
because it just felt like it was like,
oh yeah, I've seen E.T.
Like E.T. is dope.
And y'all have seen E.T.
and you played in that sandbox.
Right.
E.T. is just this shaved-headed
australian little girl now i see that's what it is now but yeah that's and you know i watched i've
watched all the seasons and they each season kind of has its own tone to it and i like you know the
last one was all like you know mall centric and like them and their burgeoning romantic
relationships and shit like that and whatever it was cool i was like
not my favorite of the three this trailer i'm i'm not i don't want to say i'm not
giving a fuck about it but i didn't get really hooked like i i i was saying more snarky shit
to myself watching it than when i was being like, oh, shit, that was cool. Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And you were fucking cracking up when you were saying that shit to yourself.
It was kind of wild to see.
You were just sitting there watching, saying a snarky thing, and then just rolling.
I'm like, this dude playing a guitar in the Upside Down.
For what?
For what?
I really need to know.
for what i really need to know so the aesthetic of the first one would be like spielberg suburban like uh wilderness type shit what what was uh three was like sort of 80s mall culture
what was number what was two um how would i sum up the second season it was like a summary right wasn't that like a thing yeah yeah yeah it's like
it's more just like seeing them now grow up a little bit more that was like because they were
you know we went from kids season one to two they're like yeah look at these little you know
these like more like a teen movie yeah three you're like okay then some teenagers four were
like freshmen in high school um but all that to say
is like i'm just it seems like they're doing a lot is happening in this trailer and that's what
kind of worries me but not to say that it has to be so minimal or whatever but there are like so
many tropes that like i was visually seeing in this thing i'm like wow y'all are okay maybe every
episode it's like a weird little movie. Yeah, I got
80s metal video
vibes from this one.
I mean, there was a fucking guy doing
a tap solo on an electric guitar.
Doing the Slash from
November Rain solo,
but in the
upside down.
Yeah.
There's some White Walker
looking dude like night
king figure so whatever cool um i think it'll what'll probably inevitably happen is it comes out
i wait to see what everybody on the internet says and then like four weeks later i'll be like super
bored and i'll be like fuck it let me Let me just throw this on. Yeah. Speaking of waiting to see what everyone on the internet says,
uh,
everything,
everywhere,
all at once,
still haven't seen it,
but I'm,
I'm going to try and see that shit in the next week.
But like,
that is,
I,
that's the most like effusively praised,
uh,
like movie that's,
that's hit in a while.
Northman,
the,
I don't know anyone who's seen it yet,
but some critics have seen it and that's getting a lot of praise.
Pachinko is a new Apple TV series
based on a novel my wife just read
about Korean history and culture,
and that's supposed to be very good.
And specifically Korean discrimination in Japan.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then Severance, everyone says Severance is really good. to be very good and specifically like korean discrimination in japan yeah yeah yeah yeah
um and then severance everyone says severance is really good like suddenly apple tv supposed to be really good became like the new fucking hbo max or some shit out of nowhere i think they just
probably had to figure out their development like schedule or whatever here but um i'm like
fuck man i heard from people who were working on a show
early for them that they were very that apple was like real hard to work with yeah yeah exactly no
uh they're every person i think and those like that first set of shows that they had announced
like constant butting of heads because you had a con uh basically a product manufacturer getting into
content and like the reconciliation process of you know um notes i think was probably a bit of
a headache but yeah look at them now look at them now look at them love to see apple winning you
know what i mean finally you know they needed a they needed a dub they needed something since that ipod yeah um and also
you know gilbert godfrey is trending because he passed uh too young age of 67 after a long-term
illness um but you know comedy legend voice acting legend yeah the only celebrity when i lived in
missouri for three years the only celebrity I saw while I lived there
so he was out here
you know touring
getting his paper
but
yeah supposedly
just a super nice guy
so
shout out to his family
wasn't he Zazu in Aladdin
no Yago right or Y. Wasn't he Zazu in Aladdin?
No, Yago, right?
Or Yago. Which one's Zazu?
I don't know, man. I think you just made those
syllables up.
Zazu feels like
Lion King.
Just leave me
to rot here to my old age.
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and we're back britney griner is still in russia wmba has been doing what they can but say the
situation is very difficult yeah they, because the draft just happened.
The commissioner of the league
made a point to say
we're really trying to get Brittany Griner
out of there.
We've yet to see.
I think a lot of people are concerned that
her detention would
possibly use as some kind of leverage
negotiating piece
at some point point or maybe that
it maybe that's happening now who knows um but yeah still in russia because they said she had
vape cartridges and could potentially look at a 10-year sentence um if they you know if she's found
quote-unquote guilty or whatever the fuck is going on over there jesus yeah it's i mean it's awful i mean like it's i can't even imagine you any other time right you're like man fuck it i'm too visible uh like
this seems like something who knows what the fuck actually happened here but i feel like you know
potentially the government can figure out a way to get me out of here um but yeah now with like
basically so many diplomatic channels closed uh it seems like
people are trying to do what they can like with their own networks to see what can happen but
we'll see i i haven't really followed her wmba career but um damn she's she's really fucking
good yeah her stats are crazy oh yeah yeah i mean i knew she could like dunk and like i remember
her baylor uh years but yeah damn putting up uh 20 points a game shooting 85 from the stripe
nine boards anyways which puts you i mean which also brings up the point right is why does she
need to have the need financially to go play abroad right you know that is wild
it's because she's only in russia because they you know you can make a lot more money playing
abroad and i get that the wmba is like you know obviously they'd have more money if more advertisers
were supporting the league and things like that but there has to be a you know like that that's
part of the equation is that like for how talented these people are, they're
still, I feel like they can
still earn a lot more based on
what their worth is, especially when you compare that
to the men in the NBA.
Yeah.
Almost like they should, you
know, help the WNBA a little
bit more. Huh. Huh. Huh.
Anyways, if only they were associated with
a major corporation
that could i don't know anyways be real yeah um the new app that we're all buzzing about uh
you watching it you heard of it no i think i've seen like ads for it it's okay i a few people
have written up this app now because it's a social media platform
that's trying to they're emphasizing the real okay i want you to be real it's not some cypress
hill offshoot uh app this is just about you know being your authentic self because the
makers of it are like everything's so sanitized and when you're posting like when you're ready
it's just you're you're showing very much a like not a spontaneous version of yourself
and so the way the app works is basically like you can only uh post when the app uh prompts you
to say okay you got two minutes to post whatever you're doing right now like take your like let us
know what you're doing right now like post that yeah yeah okay just to kind of give people more
of an idea it's like yeah man i'm fucking not in
barbados you know like uh riding a turtle through the fucking crystal clear water like yeah i'm at
fucking work yes i'm sitting at my desk working i'm playing with my pets or whatever and like
you know that's their hope i think the knock the effect of it is like they're not the most
stimulating or uh visually
stunning pictures but i like that there's like the pressures there's not really pressure to be like
oh how many likes you're gonna get more than me like hey where you at right now what you doing
right right but yeah um enough people will use it yeah i mean that's like a cool sociological
experiment yeah um that's why i don't i don't see i don't see that this thing
blowing up but i just like that there's a like hopefully like i'm sure there's a movement of
people who are trying to be like how can we get people to like interact with each other
but like take out the like ego emphasis of it all and just get people to sort of see each other
in a more normal way and not cause people anxiety from looking at someone's manicured life.
Yeah.
So like as a consumer, I'm not sure I want to necessarily see that.
I do want to see the overall results and be like, damn, Americans do work way too much.
This is a great data gathering idea. But like nobody's gonna want to look at that right
well not with the yeah i mean i think because again the reason why i think i mean not the
reason why i think it's clear why social media is is so popular is that because it feeds into
like this like hey look at me shit and also connects you with people and like it has all
that there but with something so visual
and people being i probably concerned about what they look like or how they're presenting
themselves on social media that that might not appeal to them um but you know again it's a
uh it's a worthwhile endeavor to try and just be like hey man you just fuck it man you got work
all day that's fucked yeah that sucks um hey man you always uh
you know like damn all right or you start like talking shit you're like dude every time they
post they're on this couch like laying down and do you like what happens if you just ignore the
prompt then you're not posting anything you skip your window okay yeah yeah i don't i don't like
the idea of being involved with that that sounds stressful but
that's uh well i mean for people like us who are obviously prolific on social media yeah i mean it's
just like i'm already like i've tweeted five times since we started recording i know and you won't
even look people don't know this when we record this episode jack doesn't look at me because he's
on his phone posting all the time yeah yeah and i'm sure those eyes with me
like just fake laughing at different posts yeah like in uh waynes world too when harry
shears the fucking dj uh-huh yep uh-huh okay yep and you would know that because you're a major your tool yep that's a good bit uh well we talked about some things that we want to watch uh but now
we're talking something that we gotta watch it's called father stew um it's uh written and directed by Mel Gibson's significant other,
who her name is Rosalyn Ross.
And there's an interesting AV club profile of her
where it opens with her just being like,
yeah, I was surprised that he asked me to write the script
in the first place.
And then I turned it in and he was like yo
do you want to direct this and i was like what does that even mean um that she didn't say that
but she was just like it was very unexpected wow don't you love to see that he'd been developing
it with david o russell for uh like six years and then now was just like nah fuck it bro i can i can do this
yeah um the story of a priest so mark walberg as we've talked about before on uh the show
america's favorite catholic uh was uh tapped to uh mc the an appearance of the pope in philadelphia a city he is famously not associated
with and it's not getting great reviews um but oh really well the review i read was like so if
you've watched a lot of like christian movies that are like know, basically made not because they have a story to tell, but because they are trying to like get Christianity to expose the world to Christianity, the most underrepresented, underrated religion out there. know if you're familiar with those faith-based the faith-based genre you'll be like damn okay
but if uh you are not familiar with that and uh are coming in uh with the expectations that this
is going to be a good movie um you'll probably be underwhelmed is the is the kind of impression i've gotten from the three reviews oh god i mean
you know it's those those church films aren't great uh buddy of mine work i remember edited a
church movie that jaw rule was in with adrian byline remember going to like the low like the
premiere of that shit this was this shit was not a great movie.
And so I get that the bar is a little bit different.
But I feel like Catholic priests are just such compelling,
interesting, relatable, sympathetic characters.
People aren't just lining up to see this, huh?
They're like, what if there was one who was not a creep? I think is is the pro right premise of this is like you think
like mark warbler's like we need a movie where the priests look cool man exactly like the big hit
but with priests it's wild that you said ja rule because i had been singing i'm real in my head
since we talked about be real and now now here we are back at Ja Rule.
Look at us.
That is our promise.
That is our promise as a podcast.
We will always bring it back.
Bring it back to rule.
To rule.
Rule, baby!
Let's use his proper name,
Jeffrey Atkins.
Jeffrey Atkins Rule.
Isn't that his name, I think?
Yeah. Yeah, that's what the Ja is for yep oh yeah right better jaw jaw morant morant or jaw rule yeah oh jaw rule baby
i want to see i want to see look i got love for you john morant but if you don't go toe-to-toe with 50 Cent and get absolutely destroyed
and then do a scam
festival, then try and hawk
crypto, I mean...
Yeah, try harder, John Morant.
We'll see how these
playoffs go, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, Ja Rule is like a pop culture cockroach.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
Kind of impressive.
Absolutely.
I think because he also like,
he was so popular at like the right time
for a bunch of people who are wealthy now
that are like,
dude,
dude, your first fucking album,
Vinny Vidi Vici, bro?
That shit fucking,
that shit was so sick, dude.
Yeah, dude, I got this crypto startup man like
and we're thinking about doing like this like like fucking really exclusive club in new york
dude you need a fucking card to get in and shit um i don't know just let me like if you're feeling
it or not yeah just bradley cooper's character from wedding crashers man i i bought veni vidi I bought Vinny Vidi Vici in historic Jamestown.
Wait, isn't that like where they only sell like
hand-woven, hand-spun?
Yes, dude.
There was like,
I'm pretty sure.
It's supposed to be a town
that takes you back in time
and then there was just some dude
like hawking CDs?
There was like,
it's either a historic jamestown or
another like so i remember like one of those colonial towns yeah we went to like a colonial
town in eighth grade to be like wow look at how like we won't talk about slaves at this place
right just like check this check out how they lived in the 1800s. And there was like in this town, there was a music shop and Vinny Vidi Vici.
Okay.
His day or the album that had Holla on it just dropped.
And me and my boy were like, yo, we gotta go get that shit right now.
And we were like, we like snuck away because we saw this place was a music shop.
Copped the CD.
So.
Wow.
I've paid my dues to the the temple of rule um well there it
is vinny viddy vici um i don't know what that life pasta death isn't that i came i saw i conquered
yeah that's what that's what it is. That sounds better.
What is this? Pasta Gary Vee, the old
physio from the Lakers
and Avicii, the
DJ. There it is.
Alright, well that is
what is trending. Sort of
what's trending. Also a lot of shit about Ja Rule.
Yeah. For Tuesday,
April 12th, we are back tomorrow
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the vaccine don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to you all tomorrow bye bye
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