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Yo, yo, I feel like I have to drop my voice when you come in.
Oh, you got that sleeper deep voice.
Yeah, you got that baritone.
Yeah, go as low as you can right now.
Let me go.
What's like the lowest?
If you did a character voice with the lowest baritone, let me hear.
Okay, cool.
I mean, let me try this out.
No, that was my normal speaking voice.
I was like, fuck, dude, turn it off.
Oh, cool.
Yo.
Wow.
Resonance. God damn.
Yeah. Yeah.
The thing is, this is how my voice has sounded since I was 14.
Really?
Yeah. It was like, it was like literally over spring break.
My voice sounded like this.
And then over the course of spring break,
it just like balls dropped and immediately,
like when I came back after a week,
I was so- They dropped so far?
Yeah, they dropped through the center of the earth.
My balls dropped all the way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To the other side of the globe.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You sounded like you're in that band, Yellow. the way to the other side of the globe.
You sounded like you like you're in that band yellow.
Timely reference.
Oh yeah. Oh, okay.
Yeah.
This is Joe.
I didn't know that was yellow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thought that was whoever did that.
Joe.
Yeah.
Joey Clifton.
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It's Wednesday, September 18th, 2024.
Wow, what a day.
It's Air Force birthday, National HIV AIDS and Aging Awareness Day.
That feels apt considering I just turned 40 over the weekend
and National Cheeseburger Day.
Shout out the noble cheeseburger.
We love you.
One of the greats.
My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA,
rolling down the street, crack the windows,
sloshing in whale brain juice.
Hey, whack. Says my kids in the backseat and the brain
worm in my mind.
That is a collaboration between Halcyon salad and you
current do that on television.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's fucking good.
That's a good one.
That's it.
That's a banger.
Took two mines.
Few people know this, but the green slime on you can't do that on television.
Whale brain juice.
Oh, shit.
A lot of people don't realize that.
Yeah.
You ever eat the green brain sludge from lobster?
No.
You ever get in there?
No.
No.
Are you supposed to?
Some people do.
When I live-
In a crab, I have.
Okay. Yeah, same premise same premise okay I lived with the
Spanish family for a month in high school and the dad ate the green brain
juice and was like it's so delicious so I had to try it yeah it kind of tastes
good I don't like the idea of it but it kind of
tastes good if it was in a shot glass you could probably down it easier than
being like oh I'd have to scoop and slurp yeah scoop it out in a shot glass, you could probably down it easier than being like, oh, I'd have to scoop and slurp it.
Yeah, scoop it out of a thing that still has eyeballs that are looking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Judging. Well, you should honor it.
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
It's Miles Gray, aka.
Ever since my body suddenly turned 40, I've been coughing like politicians.
I know it's my mind or perhaps I'm subway tuned up, but my butt is not now less poisoned.
I couldn't understand how to work it out.
Shout out to Halcyon Salad and everybody with their well wishes.
Thank you, yes. I have been coughing like a politician, but that's because I have a child in daycare.
And that means I get to sample all of the illnesses that are happening in my community.
And you know, you just doubt little poop.
Yeah, exactly.
And literally, exactly.
And literally at times, how do politicians cough?
They like cough hard.
Um, I'm what are you referencing there?
Just guessing because they're elderly.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's what I'm just guessing because they're elderly? Yeah.
That's what I'm going to go with.
Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
a brilliant TV writer, performer,
enrolled member of the Cowlitz Indian Tribe who's written on
shows for Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, DreamWorks,
and the Netflix animated series, Spirit Rangers.
He's the creator of the brilliant web series, Gone Native. Please
welcome back to the show, the hilarious, the talented, Joey Cliff!
Joey!
Hey everybody, my name's Joey Cliff, aka my Zeit Gang. I can't cite enough of your cast, babe.
Zeit Gang, I don't know, I do know why I'm on the daily side cast, baby
Wow
Okay, okay
Gang, ah, oh shit can't side enough of your guys, babe
It's like gang. I do know I do know why I'm on the daily side cast, baby
Shout out to myself.
This always happens when I'm on the show is that I realize,
I've got to come up with a parody song about my name.
What can I sing? Barry White.
That's like in my vocal register. Okay, great.
Yeah.
There it is.
Also, you mentioned I did work at Nickelodeon,
and I can confirm that the green slime from
You Can't Do That on Television is whale brain juice.
Is whale brain juice.
Yeah.
Okay.
There's a big whale hanging from the ceiling in a Nickelodeon warehouse.
Just train it.
Yeah.
And the PA just poking it.
Yeah.
With a fucking pike.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's been alive for decades.
It's very tortured.
Really fucked up Nickelodeon.
Yeah.
The producer's there and it's only half the story.
Have you ever gone with the Clift Bar?
Those are going to need to see some ID because you are entering the Clift Bar.
Oh, so the Clift Bar and not the bar, edible bar, like the place that you drink bar.
I'm just riffing here, just connecting A to C.
Yeah.
I feel like people have told me that I should go by DJ Cliffhanger if I become a DJ, which
I don't hate.
Or just go esteemed actor Montgomery Clift.
Okay. I hear that we're distantly related.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah. I've heard from some family members that we're distantly related.
I've heard from other family members that we're not related at all.
But he's buried somewhere in,
I want to say New, and only family members
can visit his grave, and part of me is like,
can I just go and show my ID and visit his grave?
Because I could be like, yeah, we're cousins or whatever.
Do you have any, I think he's from Omaha originally
or something like that?
I don't know if I have Omaha family.
He might be fuckin', they might be trying
to hide the truth from you, man. Yeah, you're right. Joey, this is the conspiracy we're going to talk about today.
I wonder if you could pull up just on the strength of your last name, be like, are
you kidding me?
It's me, Joey.
I'm here to fuck the fuck.
Yeah.
You know, Joey Clift, you know, that new sound you were looking for.
Oh yeah.
Hey, Monty, you know that new sound?
Yeah.
Hey, Monty, know that new Clift you've been looking for. You just found it. Oh, yeah. Hey, Monty, you know that new sound?
Yeah.
Hey, Monty, know that new Clift you've been looking for?
You're looking at it.
Well, it's great to have you back, Joey.
We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, a couple of the things we're talking about.
We are having a national moment of reckoning.
It's time to change the rhetoric, lower the temperature a little bit on the rhetoric when
it comes to describing Donald Trump as dangerous in any way, according to the right.
And I feel like the mainstream media usually falls for this.
We'll see.
But usually they're like, we've got to do better, guys.
It's our fault.
You know what? I agree with the right wing better guys. It's our fault. You know what?
I agree with the right wing outrage mob.
It is on us.
What?
Specifically this podcast.
Yeah.
We are here to learn.
We're here to listen and we're going to try and do better.
We won't.
Yeah.
We can use new words.
That's true.
We can use better words, but we are not.
And, and because we're going to use new words, we're not able
to, uh, mention the fact that they are saying the wildest, most violent shit
possible on the right side.
Actively, you know, they should be allowed to do that.
And they should be because they're the ones who getting shot at, and we're not
the ones getting shot at, and if you want to be able to use violent words,
need to get shot at.
Sorry, those are the rules.
Those are the rules of engagement.
Those are the rules I may just made up to benefit me.
Nobody's even shooting them.
It's like not fair.
Anyways, we'll talk about that.
And then we'll talk about the other thing
that we're doing to make amends for the fact that we did
say Trump is a danger to democracy and that led directly to that Elmer Fudd assassination attempt.
We are going to be investing in his new cryptogriff.
Even bigger this time.
Yeah. It's huge this time, guys.
You can tell he believes in it because it's the one thing he's ever done that he didn't put his name on.
Yeah, does that mean he's not excited about it?
Yeah, he can't quite figure out what it would take for him to launch something that's not called Trumpycoin or whatever.
This one's just called World Liberty Financial.
Which makes it scarier.
Oh, yeah. If it was called like Trump Bucks or something like that,
I would at least get the grift.
Whereas this feels like, oh, you're trying to be legit,
which makes the theme seem even sketchier.
Yeah. He's trying to win the affections of his son, Barron.
Yeah.
It also has the name of a shell company, like a name that seems designed
to leave your brain the second you hear it.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
World Liberty.
It's like, yo, how did, who did your car loan?
World Liberty financial, I think.
What was your APR on that?
Like, I think 64%.
Is that good?
Is that bad?
I don't know numbers.
It's less than a hundred. Yeah.
We'll talk about all that plenty more,
but first Joey, we do like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?
All right, so one thing from my search history
that's revealing about who I am
is I Googled how to buy food from a ghost kitchen.
If any of you know what a ghost kitchen is,
if you go on like Grubhub or something like that
and you're trying to order food,
it's like a second restaurant that's not a real restaurant
that like is also making food out of the back
of a Chuck E. Cheese or something like that.
So like you're probably not gonna wanna, you know,
Grubhub Chuck E. Cheese pizza,
but you might want to Grubhub like, you know,
El Pastor, Mr. Pepperino's Pizzeria. And it's just like Chuck E. Cheese pizza, but you might want to Grubhub like, you know, El Pastor, Mr. Pepperino's Pizzeria.
And it's just like Chuck E. Cheese Pizza, but with a different name that makes it seem slightly
classier. Mr. Beast is how to go to kitchen while we were all pandemicing. Yeah. So I,
I Googled this while I was standing in the lobby of an IHOP that I thought was a Philly cheesesteak restaurant.
Cause I was like, I was just, I just really wanted a Philly cheesesteak a couple of
days ago. So I just Googled like, you know, Philly cheesesteak restaurants near me.
There was an IHOP a few blocks away.
I walked over there being like, okay, is this a Philly cheesesteak restaurant?
And they were like, no, you have to order it online and from the app.
So I had to like stand outside and download an app for this Philly cheese
restaurant, Philly cheesesteak restaurant for the IHOP to
like make the Philly cheesesteak in the back of the IHOP and then give it to me.
Wow.
It was just truly one of those things.
Is it just like a sous chef's like side hustle or it's like officially something that IHOP does?
There wasn't signage. So it does definitely feels like it's somebody's side hustle.
And I would say the quality of the IHOP Philly cheesesteak, you know, kind of
man, like, look, I ate the whole thing, but it was like coming on an Amoroso
roll or not, I mean, it was wrapped in a pancake.
Yes.
Yeah.
You gotta go to, I mean, like, what's the, I like booze, booze.
Philly is probably like one of the better Philly cheese steaks in LA.
I thought you just meant alcohol.
I like booze.
Sometimes Miles just has that non sequitur and we just have to move past it.
That's like a Philly cheese steak.
What?
Miles, you're sweating a lot right now.
It's just cheese steak grease.
Goop is a ghost kitchen, right? Goop kitchen or whatever the fuck?
Yeah, but I mean, like, there's a ton too where like a bunch of restaurants will take over a larger say grease. Goop is a ghost kitchen, right? Goop kitchen or whatever the fuck like.
Yeah. But I mean like there's a ton too, or like a bunch of restaurants will take
over a larger facility and they'll, they'll serve like six different
restaurants out of one kitchen. There's a spot on sunset that is like a huge ghost
kitchen that is just like, you see all these brands and it's all just coming
out of the same place.
What I think it's like call me old fashioned, but it's like, this was
definitely a situation where I was like, okay, I think it's like, call me old fashioned, but it's like, this was definitely a situation
where I was like, okay, I just want to like walk
and get a Philly cheesesteak and leave.
And it was just so like, I totally get it.
You know, like having storefronts is expensive,
but it was just like going to an IHOP
and like not being able to find a Philly cheesesteak place
was so disheartening.
Then finding out that was the Philly cheesesteak place
and I couldn't order it from the IHOP.
I had to like download an app. Was like, so annoying.
Yeah.
A lot of adding insult to injury.
Yeah.
I feel like, yeah.
It's like fine.
Give me my IHOP cheese stick.
Not only is this IHOP where your Philly cheese stick is going to come from, we
can't even take your order like a normal fucking place.
You need to download an app.
Yeah, not only is this not in Philly, it's in IHOP.
And when you come in, you say, I would like a seat
at your International House of Pancakes, please.
And we will know that that means
to drop you the Philly cheesesteak.
How did you pick up your order?
Was it just there at the front, like at the hostess stand?
Yeah, so it's like, so I went to the front
and I was just like, is this like,
I think it's called like, Oh My Cheese Steak
or something like that's what the restaurant was called.
Oh no, red flag. And you said it with the proper. I did say it, my voice did go like, I think it's called like, oh my cheese steak or something like that's what the restaurant was called. Oh no, red flag.
And you said it with a proper.
I did say it, my voice did go up when I said it.
Oh my cheese steak.
It's the exclamation point.
Oh my cheese steak, yeah, yeah.
So you know, I was like, is this not my cheese steak?
And they were like, yes, but like also no.
And I was like, yeah, you give me a cheese steak.
Please be discreet.
And they were like, you gotta order it from the app outside.
And I was like, okay.
Outside?
That sounds so weird.
Why did they take the fuck out?
And then I just sat down on his IOP and waited for like 10 minutes.
And then they very discreetly gave me a Philly cheesesteak.
They didn't call my name.
They just like, on the side, were just like, here you go, get out.
Get the fuck out of here.
Like, don't even get here.
It's just shit.
I like how they're like, yeah, you got to order it outside though.
Yeah.
Like, what the fuck?
All right.
Jesus.
So judgy.
What is, what's something you think is underrated?
Uh, something I think is underrated.
Uh, so this is going to be a hot take.
I recently ate at Waffle House for the first time. Oh, and Waffle House so underrated.
Like Waffle House, probably one of the best places I've ever eaten in my life.
Truly.
What'd you get?
Like, uh, I mean, like, so I, I spent a lot of time because I, it's, there's not a
waffle house in Southern California.
I was in like Atlanta for a thing.
And, um, I think I just got sort of the classic like pecan waffle.
And then I like, and then I got like, basically what all my friends suggested,
which was like hash browns with a bunch of different stuff on it.
And like, there's a specific way that you order, order a waffle house.
You say like, you know, my hash browns, like, chunked, spicy, smothered or whatever.
I did not know that, so I went to the front counter
and I was like, hello, I would like hash browns
with jalapenos, a little bit of cheese
and some ham, please.
Yeah, they look back at the kitchen,
they're like, yo, the feds are here.
Yeah, hold on.
100%.
It was also great, it was perfect first
waffles house experience of like,
I walked in the door, immediately the person working the counter said like,
Chef ain't here.
Like, and it's like, food won't be ready for 30 minutes,
so like, sit down and wait.
So we like sat down, waited for 30 minutes,
and then like, the chef walked in,
for sure like, with a sig in their mouth,
that they like flicked into a trash can,
and then immediately started making the best waffles
I've ever seen in my life, you know.
It's that sausage gravy, whenever I go, I've started making the best waffles I've ever seen in my life. You know, it's that sausage gravy.
Whenever I go sausage gravy, just butter.
It's like, like, it's truly like, it's just, if you've never
eaten at a waffle house before, like treat yourself.
And it's also like 10 bucks.
It's very cheap.
What, so you went peppered, you went chunk.
Yes.
So, yeah, so I think I went peppered, chunked, smothered.
Yeah, that sounds right.
It was like jalapenos, cheese.
Yeah.
So smothered is sauteed onions, covered is melted American cheese.
Yeah, we got onions in too.
Yeah.
Chunked, which is my favorite.
It's just the best.
You don't get to say chunked in any other context.
Unless I chunked my pants.
Yeah.
Chunked is with chunks of grilled hickory smoked ham.
That's the context about four hours later. And that's being generous. Diced some green grilled tomatoes for juice.
I like that they say that specifically it's grilled tomatoes for juice.
Peppered with the jalapeno peppers, capped shrooms.
That's one of my favorites.
And then topped with Burt's chili.
God damn hungry right now.
Country with sausage gravy poured to top.
Could you imagine putting getting a crumb on top of that? one of my favorites, and then topped with Burt's chili. God damn, I'm hungry right now.
Country with sausage gravy poured to top.
Could you imagine getting it covered, topped country?
Hell yeah, man.
I think that's the thing,
whenever I'm in a place with a Waffle House,
now my girlfriend and I make it a habit of just saying
random words at the hash brown order and being like,
let's go, let's go.
See if it's something.
Yeah.
Play a little Waffle House roulette here.
Yeah.
Another thing that I think is underrated is voting.
Maybe that's a thing that people should do.
You actually just threatened the president.
You threatened Donald Trump's life by saying that.
Oh no, sorry.
Yeah, you're on a watch list.
Yeah, you're sorry, man.
Voting for who?
You know what I mean?
Turn the temperature down with that voting shit.
You are threatening his political career
and by extension his life.
What is something you think is overrated?
Something that I think is overrated,
actually I'm gonna say something related to that.
I was in Dallas a couple of days ago
and I was at the place where JFK got assassinated.
Like the book depository or whatever.
I love the smiling your voice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it was like I for like, for a separate trip, but I was like,
Oh, well, I'm in Dallas.
I'd, you know, I'll see the sites and it's, it's just very, it's very interesting
how much it has turned into like a tourist location.
Like literally the place, like the location that his car was, where he was shot.
There's just an X spray painted on the ground.
And like, for sure there were tourists like, and it's just an X spray painted on the ground.
And like, for sure there were tourists like, and it's like, it's a street. It is a busy road that like goes on.
Active street.
Yeah.
So there were people that were like running from the street to jump onto
the X where JFK got shot so they could snap a selfie and then run back to the
sidewalk before getting hit by a car.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
I wonder how many people have been hit by cars there.
Uh, I mean, like in the 20 minutes I was there, I saw like six close calls.
At least one a day.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Yeah.
I remember going there when I was a kid and there was, you know, there's the
official museum like up at the book depository.
Yeah.
That's about it.
And then when I went there,
there was an unofficial thing that seemed like it was a newsstand.
Unofficial.
And it was people selling their own conspiracy theory zines.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
That was still there.
That was still there.
That's still there.
That's amazing.
Wow.
Yeah.
And it is so interesting being there, seeing how close together everything is. Because I feel like you've never been there. That's amazing. Wow. Yeah. And it is so interesting being there, seeing how like close together everything
is, cause I feel like you've never been there.
It's like, you don't get a sense of like a Zaprutter when he shot the
footage was like maybe like 10 feet from like where JFK was, you know, like
the grassy knoll was like half a basketball, like it's like a basketball
half court length away, you know, like, it's just very, it's like, it's a
very like contained area, but it is just funny. It's like, I feel like people look at like the, like the Titanic,
how you can get like giant inflatable slides of the Titanic now that you can like set up
at theme parks and stuff. People are like, people are like, oh, that was like a tragedy
where thousands of people died. That's like weird that that's like a thing kids play on now. And
it's like, you go to the JFK assassination site and you're like,
Oh, it's like 90% of the way there.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I wonder how long it will be until there are like nine 11 themed rides.
Like where it's like the towers are falling, like everybody, you know what I mean?
Like everybody out.
Can you get out of the building before?
I think we're going to have to be in our 70s.
Yeah, I think it'll be when we're dead, probably.
You go to Ford's Theater in Washington, DC where Abraham Lincoln got assassinated, and
straight up across the street there's a pancake house themed after Abraham Lincoln.
It's just like, oh, the tragedy's been erased from this. Now it's just like, I don't know, like a place to buy like t-shirts.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I think just like, I remember I said a tweet a few weeks ago or someone was
talking about like, I think we're far enough away or there'd be like 9-11 sales.
Like at stores.
I feel like that that's probably the first, that's our first step on our way to
full on inflatable twin towers.
Mattress sales and then inflatable twin towers.
Like bounce houses that have like giant inflatable twin
towers that you can like jump off of.
Yeah.
The, yeah.
AI get on it.
We're just pitching ideas, you know, like if somebody wants to invest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The, how close everything is, is true, is pretty staggering.
And it does drive home something about that assassination that I think is relevant
to the assassination attempts that we're seeing today with Trump, where like he,
JFK, they wanted to put a top on the car because they're like, you're going through
an area that's going to be like incredibly dangerous.
There was like somebody who took out an ad that was like kill, like basically
saying you're an enemy to the nation and like, it would be treasonous not to kill
you essentially.
And he was just like, nah.
And basically they like, he
I want to see the people.
Yeah.
It was like the first stop on his reelection campaign.
And so he was higher status than the secret service in a way that I don't
think is usually true of presidents.
Like he was both president and like cool celebrity.
And so we're all just like, Oh damn JFK, you're the man, you know, whatever.
Like they, they all like went out.
All right, dude, no bulletproof top.
He said, lose it, dude.
He said, man, look at this guy.
He's crazy.
You know what he said?
He said like Maryland, you know what that means?
Topless baby.
But it was so wild.
Like the shot was not that difficult of a shot.
It was like right fucking there.
Well, it's like, yeah, you go, you go to the like, this is why, like, I'm a, I don't
know, like I'm kind of a history buff. know, like, I'm kind of a history buff.
It's like, I like kind of, whenever I travel, I like to, like, check out places like this.
And it's like, yeah, you go there and you really do get a sense of, like, yeah, that's not that hard of a shot.
It's like, it's like, it's like people look, I played Counter-Strike, like, I don't know.
Like, it's just, it's just, it's.
I can land a plane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, like, so it's, it just kind of feels like, oh yeah, it's like an L it's like six floors up.
It's like a pretty much straight shot.
And it's like the way the road is set up is it's like, oh, it's like, it's like a straight, he's driving like straight from the background of the foreground.
If that makes sense.
It's like, it's like, he's driving in a lot.
So it's like, I don't know anybody that's a conspiracy theorist.
It's like, if you go to that place, it's like, yeah, it's like probably not a conspiracy.
They literally said that day, like, man, if someone wanted to shoot us from a
window, we'd be sitting ducks.
Like JFK said that.
And yeah, his last thing, his last quote.
I think same with like Trump, like he likes to golf and he's this larger than
life personality who just like always wants to be out and not, you know, I'm
sure he's a very difficult person to like argue with, you know?
Yeah, I mean, like, so the basically sounds like it's to the point where you have to put hands on
him. If you want to stop him, like just like with January 6, when he tried to hop over and take the
wheel of like the suburban. Oh, right. Yo, bro, we let you cook enough, bro. Now I have to fucking
hold you. I'm sorry, dude. I don't mean to put hands on you, but no.
Yeah.
So I don't, yeah, I just think the secret service is both very limited
compared to like what we've seen in movies.
They're not this like fully buttoned up team of like, you know, experts.
And also sometimes they just like, will be persuaded by the thing that the like big personality
that they're supposed to be guarding is like telling them, you know?
Right.
Yeah, because ultimately it's like JFK and Trump and like they're the Secret Service's
boss.
So it's like if it is kind of like, if JFK says like, oh, I want to have a convertible,
they can't say like, sorry, sir.
I mean, they can say, hey, that's dangerous, but they can't stop him. No. That's dangerous. Here's why. And he's just like, sorry, sir. I mean, they could say, hey, that's dangerous. But they can't stop him. You know, that's dangerous
Here's why and he's just like hey
I'm not sitting duck here. Anybody could shoot me from the hotel windows. Yeah moving on Jesus. All right
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Oh Jesus.
My favorite show.
Sorry.
I don't mean to rip off my favorite comedian, uh, Bill Maher, but there's some new rules. Hell yeah, dude.
Do you want me to do a deep voice drop and you say that, you say new rules, and I say
like new rules.
Yeah.
There it is.
New rules.
New rules.
But yeah, I think rather than calling for like actual reforms that would make the country
safer and by extension Donald Trump himself even safer the right is now just using like
Take the thwarting of another would-be assassin to say that it's the Democrats are actually totally at fault here
This is all on them. They keep saying Trump is a danger and a threat to our democracy
That's just how these things happen. You keep saying words like that, and people will try
and do bad things to Donald Trump. The campaign, the
campaign even released like a long list of receipts to prove
it. They're like, Kamala Harris, quote, Trump is a threat to our
democracy and fundamental freedoms. Joe Biden, it's time
to put Trump in a bullseye. I mean, this from the bottom of
my heart, Trump is a threat to this nation.
Then they have just everyone, Tim Walz, Gwen
Walz, Nancy Pelosi.
It goes on and on and on.
And everyone's just talking about like, yeah, he's
a destructive force to our democracy.
And you know, like we cannot, this man should
not be near office at all.
And so Gwen, they have Gwen Walz saying bye bye
Donald Trump.
Yep.
Yep. Yep.
That's the most heinous threat I've ever heard in my life.
Justin bleeped that because I don't want the show to get canceled.
Yeah.
Please.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
She's just quoting Donald Trump.
The SNL sketch is just quite a tendency.
She's just quoting an old David Spade SNL sketch.
Bye bye.
Jesus.
Bye bye.
Yeah, yeah.
Bye bye.
Bye bye now.
That is, that is truly wild that they're like, and she said that immediately
after firing the shot, like that's the only way that that would be fair.
She was holding an AK 47 as she was saying that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Immediately before.
Lit up a 12 pack of Trump beer cans right after.
Uh, but then they have like other stuff that they put like disgraced Harris staff.
They're putting modifiers in front of people's names,
just like in front of a quote.
But anyway, this is them proving,
look how many times people accurately described how
Donald Trump is a destructive force to political norms in the United States.
They did slide one in there.
Representative Dan Goldman did say he is destructive to our democracy and dot, dot, dot.
I don't know what they removed there.
He has to be eliminated, which does feel rhetorically like the sort of thing that you
would get called out on in the Democratic Party as like being, I don't know, that seems over the line, man.
What are you, the fucking Terminator?
We're just like trying to win an election here.
And like I've seen this quoted on social media, people being like, he said this right after
the assassination attempts.
In fact, he said this back in 2023 and immediately got in hot, got in shit and had to apologize.
Right away.
He was like, oh, my bad.
That's on me.
He's like, no, no, no.
I misspoke.
I didn't mean that.
But that is the bait and switch they're doing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Many things like this.
And let's also hear from JD Vance,
who has a warning for all of us about our words
and the power of our words.
Is this the quote where he calls Trump America's Hitler?
Oh, no, no, that was earlier.
That was, not his own rhetoric, not his own rhetoric that, that
compares him to actual despotic leaders.
Uh, but anyway, uh, not to say that Trump isn't, but here's Senator JD Vance.
And I know it's popular on a lot of corners of the left.
I think this sound, it just fucked me up so bad. It was like a bunch of mosquitoes. It's just a lot of quarters of the left. I think this sound, it just fucked me up so bad.
It was like a bunch of mosquitoes.
It's just a lot of humming.
Sorry to my audio engineers out there.
The main audience for JD Vance's speech is,
swarms of bugs, yes.
Yeah, exactly.
He's like, Jesus.
It's like, what's going on, dude?
It's like, I only see this when there's a dead body around.
They use that high-pitched whine
that like scares teenagers away.
Because they know that there's, they're like,'re like, yeah, there should be no teens here.
No, no.
Okay, go on, JD.
To say that we have a both sides problem.
And I'm not going to say we're always perfect.
I'm not going to say that conservatives always get things exactly right.
But you know the big difference between conservatives and liberals is that we have no one has tried to kill
Kamala harris, and what's he gonna say? We haven't tried to kill
We haven't tried to well, let me just turn that hold on mister
Let's see that freudian slip one more time is that we have no one has oh jesus. Yeah, you're right
Yeah, he was for sure about this
Two people now have tried to kill donald trump in the last couple of months
couple of months and two people now have tried to kill Donald Trump in the last couple of months. I'd say that's pretty strong evidence that the left needs to tone down the rhetoric and needs
to cut this crap out. I think what's really funny too is like just because someone obviously these
people had a lot of issues but it just really was like well if they're against Trump then they're
liberal. Like oh sir, sir. Yeah. Yeah, both people vote for Trump.
Yes.
Yeah. The latest guy,
he gave donations to ActBlue,
so they're like, yeah, this guy's
definitely a Democrat or whatever.
But when you look at the totality of what he has said and his actions,
you're like, I don't even know what bucket you put this guy in at all.
He was just all-time dipshit. This guy, Ryan, whatever.
Ruth?
Ralph?
Yeah.
Ryan Ralph, uh, worst assassin name of all time.
Sorry.
I just, it sucks, Ryan.
In your face, John Wilkes Booth.
Yeah, exactly.
Like John Wilkes Booth, like born for it.
You know, what a name for an assassin.
Uh, Ryan Ralph, like you should be a D3 quarterback or something like that. Yeah. Oh, easily. Yeah. You know, what a name for an assassin. Ryan Ralph, like you should be a D three quarterback
or something like that. Yeah. Oh, easily. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not too late. You can still do that.
Yeah. How many years eligibility you got, man? Yeah. He's like militaristic in his pro-Ukrainian
stance. Like in the- As in going there.
Yeah. He went there and was like, now I recognize you might not want me as a fighter because I have
no military expertise or experience.
They were like, yeah, let me cut you off there.
No, we don't want you.
Yeah.
We're calling DHS.
I think they were even like,
tried to talk to law enforcement because they were so put off by this guy.
Everyone that this guy deals with just got the wildest vibe.
They were just like, he's scary.
An arresting officer who
arrested him for having a weapon of mass destruction,
a gun that he had modified to be a full automatic rifle.
A gun that he welded together to make five guns.
Yeah.
A super gun.
Basically.
With barrels pointed in all directions.
Homemade super gun, pulled him over and he like tried to scramble to hide it.
Cause he like had it in the front seat with him for some reason.
With a wig on it.
Yeah.
It was buckled up.
So to say, go for it.
No, she's fine.
She's just a little tired.
Yeah.
But the arresting officer said, uh, she thought he would be either dead or in prison by now.
She added, I had no clue that he had moved on and was continuing his escapades.
And then somebody who worked for him at his roofing business told the independent that her former boss had,
quote, a local reputation for doing stupid shit.
I mean, I wanted to see a bullet pointed list
of what that stupid shit is.
I mean, like we know on the international stage,
like once he contacted Kim Jong-un
and invited him to go to Hawaii on a vacation
and offered to be his like liaison there
with like no context.
Dude, you are not Dennis Rodman.
You are not Kim Jong-un ain't pulling Aim pulling up for yes, it's only D only the worm, but yeah, I mean he's just the exact
sort of
Impressionable dummy that makes the ability to get a gun at any time in the United States
So dangerous sure, right?
But I also feel like this is I mean like, like, yeah, like the rhetoric's hot.
Sure.
Sure.
For both sides, you know, but it's like, yeah, it's so hot, but it's like, I
feel like part of it is that Trump is so like, usually I feel like when
presidents travel, they're very careful.
Right.
It's like, there's a level of like allowing secret service, like knowing
where you're going, allowing for secret service's like, there's a level of like allowing secret service, like knowing where you're going,
allowing for secret service to like, you know,
scope out locations.
And it's just a very, it's like,
it's just like a process for a president to visit a place.
And I feel like Trump is just a guy that kind of does
whatever he wants in such a way that it's like,
yeah, he probably just five minutes before golfing was like,
I want to golf, you know, at that golf course.
And I'm like, yeah.
And then it's like, there wasn't really time
for the proper procedures of
secret service, like checking the place out.
And even then, I mean, like they, but they caught him 500 yards away from Trump.
He wasn't even in the line of sight.
Like Trump wasn't even the line of sight of this guy.
And did the guy fire shots?
No, he didn't fire one.
No, I think secret service fired at him.
Yeah, but this guy never got a shot.
Because the way it's being reported, even in the Washington Post, is that there were shots fired.
And like, it's heavily, yeah, it's exactly the same as the fucking NYPD thing on the subway where there, like, there was an officer involved, like, shooting and two officers were wounded by an armed fare jumper. And it was like a disturbed person who didn't pay their fare and had a knife.
And then the NYPD showed up and like started shooting each other.
And they're like, they make it sound like it was a person, an armed
person shooting on the subway and the only armed person shooting on
the subway was the NYPD.
I think I just, by definition, Trump is a threat, meaning a person that has the
potential to cause harm.
Like that's just by the very definition of it.
I don't think again, taking lessons from this group on rhetoric is like useful at
all.
And I don't think we need to run down.
Like a lot of people are obviously going to run down all the times Trump had like
truly violent and dehumanizing rhetoric that he uses.
So my response to this is like, OK, yeah, like try something like find a new fucking angle.
Like, I think that people on the right actually envision a world where like those who don't conform
to their definitions of American or normal would have some kind of violent repercussions.
So they don't understand anything like nuance or whatever,
because again, it's not even about what they know or don't know.
They just found a moment where suddenly the scales are tipping in their favor
because someone was aiming to try and do harm to Trump that they can go,
okay, now we can use this to be like,
oh my God, you guys are so bad, you guys are so bad,
it's not about us anymore.
Yeah, for sure. It feels like it's such a political gotcha thing
where it's just like not about us anymore. It's not about Jamie Vance. It's not about the racism. It feels like it's such a political gotcha kind of thing where it's just like, it's like not productive, you know?
And it also doesn't outline like how heavy of a threat
like, you know, Trump is to a lot of this stuff.
So, you know, I think that my two cents on this
are gonna be summed up in a little quote from Gwen Walls.
Bye bye, Donald Trump.
Sorry, I didn't mean to say hate speech like that.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Bye bye at the voting booth.
Bye bye.
We're going to tell him bye bye, huh?
Yes.
I do think it's probably worth acknowledging
the violence of his rhetoric in response
to the assassination attempts and the fact
that he is blaming it on the Democrats, which
takes it into this context of like,
there's already essentially a civil war happening and they're like trying to kill me.
It dot dot dot.
It just feels like we've like entered a new, very dangerous situation because of that.
Rather than we don't have like firearms, Lucy's hanging all around the country for
people.
Yeah.
What it's like you look at, there was that like Elon Musk tweet, like I want to
say a couple of days ago, who like Elon Musk clearly one of Trump's advisors,
you know, where he essentially said something to be effective, like people
should start assassinate, trying to assassinate Kamala or something.
He did not, Joey, Joey, not fair.
He didn't say that.
He was like, gosh, nobody's even trying to assassinate them. Yeah, you're right. He didn't say no. He didn't say that. He was like, gosh, nobody's even trying to assassinate them.
Yeah, you're right.
He didn't say no, he didn't say something he should.
Number one Elon defender.
Thank you.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I flew off the handle there.
I guess you should say bye bye to me.
Joey, bye bye on that one.
Oh no.
All right.
Let's bring in our next guest since Joey couldn't make it.
No, sorry.
We'll go on what we were saying about the Elon thing.
Yeah, I don't know. It's just dangerous as shit.
Well, I mean, but dangerous.
If we're talking about words that end up in violent outcomes,
look at the people in Aurora and Springfield Ohio.
You know what I mean? There are people talking about how they're getting harassed,
they're getting their shit vandalized by people because people are so there's a poll again, polls
are like, whatever, but a lot of the response,
the Republican respondents over 50% were like,
yeah, I, I probably believe that these immigrants
are eating pets and you're like, right.
And then that would be like, JD Vance flat out
said that they made up.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
Um, but again, it's like, so just like, miss me with this.
Someone is going to get hurt bullshit.
Like these things are already happening and we're already ignoring them.
Like pretty consistently.
So like think about even that, that mass shooting that was in El Paso during the
Trump administration, right.
And he was talking about, we got an immigrant invasion coming and all this
stuff and all this like, like fear mongering, that
killer was like echoing that immigrant invasion rhetoric like in his own communication.
So what are you actually talking about?
This is just an embarrassingly weak attempt to appeal to people's decency from a group
of people that have never extended that kind of grace to fucking anyone.
So it reeks of desperation. And when like the, when the people whose whole brand is, we don't give a fuck if
what we say is true or not, and if it actually gets people hurt to suddenly cry
about it, like to cry about out of control rhetoric, come on, like this is just,
you tried this in July also, and people have the same feeling where they're like,
this is really rich coming from you.
Well, yeah, when it's also, it's just, it's, it's rough to hear this kind of response from the same group of people who were saying stuff like,
oh, school shootings are just a fact of life. You know, you just got used to them. Like it just feels like, oh, you're not enraged about that.
Like your only enraged about it affects you or when you feel like you can use it for a political win.
Right. I mean, look, if the media wants to cave to this fake outrage,
I think we can come up with a whole list of alternatives to threat or danger.
That would also work like legit criminal,
sexual predator, has mushroom dick, racist,
creepiest father in America.
His dick is capped, Miles.
Yes. Yeah. No cap. Some cap. No cap, no cap, no cap.
Some cap, we'll cap.
Some cap, mostly cap.
But you know what I mean?
It's capped.
We'll see where this goes.
I know everyone's looking to maybe Thursday when Kamala does a sit down with Oprah to see
how there'll be any direct response.
But again, this just feels like the way JD events, like we got to knock this stuff off, like quit, quit
describing how bad he is for this country because it's going to get
someone hurt.
You're basically saying like, can you guys like stop your like
campaigning?
Did you stop talking?
Can you just let us tell people how much our candidate sucks?
Yeah, it's not just like, it's not right.
Like why would you do that?
Paso mass shooting is really unbelievable thing
that happened and nobody really stopped to be like that.
He said those things, this person listened
and went and killed 22 people.
Like, it's amazing that it didn't cause
the mainstream media to even like really blink
or like change how they talked about this shit.
There's just like, yeah. I'd say the media does even really blink or change how they talked about this shit. There's just like, yeah.
I'd say the media does a really good job of
ignoring terrible rhetoric from every angle.
It's like, again, JD Vance,
I know things are hard right now.
Dude, he's speaking right now as we record this.
He is saying already,
let me just play a couple gems already that he's saying.
He's doubling down on Haitian migrants. Look at this guy. I think he needs a geography
lesson. Listen to where Haitian immigrants come from. Over the last
few years, 20,000 migrants primarily from Haitia have been dropped into
screen shows. I'm sorry. That was to be my joke answer of where I thought he was going to say they were from.
Wow.
JD, one more, just for the kids in the back.
Primarily from Haitia, have been dropped into Springfield, Ohio.
Okay.
Yeah.
So shout out all my back in Haitia.
And then, then he also said this, he's talking about RFK Jr. and then just as another slip,
just doesn't know who he's talking about. Here's him talking about RFK Jr. And then just as another slip, just doesn't know who he's talking about.
Here's him talking about RFK Jr.
I mean, we're very proud on our side to have the support of Bobby Kennedy Jr.
And he's a great guy.
I've gotten to know him very well over the last few weeks.
But I think in many ways this country never healed from the assassination
of Robert F.
Kennedy Jr.
No.
RIP King.
No.
What the damn?
How did that happen?
I didn't even know about that shit, bro.
Hey, we're the precox from Minority Report at right now.
Yeah, really fast news cycle that that wasn't covered.
Holy shit.
But anyway, so just very-
I think the bear did it.
I think it was the bear that did it.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.
Came back from the grave.
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These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts
on his life in less than three weeks.
President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
I always felt like Glenn Nett was kind of his right-hand woman.
The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI
in a violent revolutionary underground.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer.
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And just when you thought the Trump campaign couldn't get any classier,
he has launched a new crypto project.
Yes.
He, so first he did a state of crypto address on Twitter.
Oh, that's so good.
Which, you know, we would have also accepted Tales from Crypto or the Cryptosburg address, but the state of the crypto address.
The project is called World Liberty Financial, which is-
Run for your lives.
Yes, truly run for your lives.
Oh my God.
Designed not to be able to be remembered by anybody who hears that word combination.
Right.
It will be a crypto banking platform where the general public will be
encouraged to borrow, lend, and invest in crypto.
Well, we're at Liberty Financial.
That feels like you, we would go into an AI platform and you just type like
real sounding bank names.
Yeah.
Name my bank. And you just take like the fourth one.
Or they're like, what gives me the best like SEO protection?
Yeah, for sure.
And that it's so nebulous that if you searched world liberty financial and
be like, dude, you can't fucking nail it down, baby.
Sounds like a bank from like an eighties action movie that has like the guitar music is just
like ripped from like, you know, like the most generic.
Well, right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Just like, anyways, when asked the, so Trump promoted the endeavor on the far
right YouTube channel, real America's voice.
Yeah.
And it kind of seemed like he has no clue what the fuck crypto even is.
Because he was asked the question, why is it so important for Americans to lead
in cryptocurrency adoption and innovation?
And he responded with a lot of sentences.
Yeah.
So we'll give him that, you know, he gets a point for number of sentences
and words that he responded with.
And it's wild because the question is an absolute softball that you can prepare for, for the
launching of your grifty crypto trading space.
And here, let's just hear, because hearing him, you're like, oh, this fucking guy.
You can almost kind of see in the reactions of the guys faces who know about
crypto. They're like, What the fuck is this? The question I
have for you following up on what I was asking earlier is,
why is it so important for America to lead in cryptocurrency
adoption and innovation? Oh, come on. No, it's AI. It's so many
other things. You know, AI speaking of an interesting future it needs
tremendous electricity capability beyond anything I've ever heard it never made
sense to me but this is what it is if you take all of the electricity doesn't
even matter because he just talking about AI and energy immediately I'm saying
let him cook okay that sounded stupid but if you played the wonk, wonk, mm, mm.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Under that answer, it would probably work a lot better.
He went on to say, they want to build them for the AI and it's very important, but you
need tremendous electric.
And in this country, because of our strong environmental impact statement problems that
we have, you know, China doesn't have those problems.
So just a coherent, uh, statement that let them know they are in
good hands with his crypto.
I'm sorry, sir.
The question was, is this your handwriting?
He said when he said, it's funny because the question was, why is it so important?
And he just goes, it's crypto.
It's AI.
What? Wait, no.
That's actually the beginning of his response.
Why is this important?
It's crypto, it's AI.
AI needs to make tremendous energy.
Speaking of AI, no one was speaking of AI.
There was this really great, I think, Nate Silver quote after the debate last week that
was something to the effect of the day after the debate,
the cost of the price of Bitcoin went down, which tells me that Trump probably lost the
debate.
Right.
Yeah, just literally he's like so in bed with crypto right now that it's just like if he
does badly or says something dumb, cryptocurrency prices go down.
Right.
Yeah, it sounds like they're very sensitive.
A lot of the people that he was talking to and other crypto Trump fans are like,
oh shit, what is he doing right now with this whole thing?
Yeah. So it's so sketchy that even Trump supporters and crypto guys have called it a,
quote, huge mistake that is, quote,
burning a lot of the goodwill that's been built with the industry so far.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Again, amazing that he's not putting his name on the product.
The first product I've ever heard of him being like in any way
affiliated with that he did like this was a group effort, right?
Truly.
Truly.
It's a Trump boys.
It's the Trump boys, baby.
Damn Trump boys.
They go damn Trump boys.
Uh, Donald jr, Eric Trump and introducingron Trump are all, they're saying like
he was the brain trust behind it or it was like his idea.
He's an actual teenager.
Yeah.
I think he's been watching too much like Red Pill YouTube videos that he's like,
dad, we got to do crypto, please, please.
He's like, you spoke to me. He's like, dad, we got to do crypto. Please, please. He's like, you spoke to me.
He's like, I know.
Let's make a crypto bank, a trading platform for us.
This is a huge mistake.
Nick Carter, a Trump supporter and founding partner of the crypto
focus venture capital firm Castle Island Ventures told Politico.
It looks like Trump's inner circle is just
cashing in on his recent embrace of crypto in a kind of naive way.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Great.
Yeah, turns out.
And then, so they've been talking about this and kind of fumbling the rollout of it.
And so that has allowed scammers to kind of come in and invade the platform before it's ready.
And so it's just rife with people scamming like Laura Trump and Tiffany Trump's accounts have been targeted.
Yeah. And people are just making just fake accounts on Telegram acting like this is the official
World Liberty Financial Telegram channel or whatever.
And they're just going to funnel.
Well, if you would just listen to the Trump brothers who have warned their followers to
quote, avoid scams.
I mean, good advice.
Done.
Did it.
In this large scam that we've come to.
Please avoid scams.
Avoid like most scams.
Some scams are good.
Not our scam.
Don't avoid that one.
No, no, no.
Embrace ours.
The others are scams.
Avoid scams that don't give us money.
Yeah. No, no, no. Embrace ours. The others are scams. Yeah, avoid scams that don't give us money.
Yeah.
We have two new characters, so they're working with two guys named Chase Harrow or Hero,
H-E-R-R-O, and Zachary Fulkman.
I've seen his name spelled two ways because this guy related to Tyler, but I've seen it
spelled H-E-R-O, and then some of the reporting had put the double R because maybe they're
like Heat fans maybe they're like
heat fans and like they're just like heroes not a last name i know harrow but anyway and then chase
hero comes along i just love that chase arrow offers a 149 a month get rich quick class that's
like a good deal for a get rich quick class i mean 150 come on like for the amount you're gonna be
making after this dude you're gonna be gonna get amount you're going to be making after this, dude, you're
going to be going to get rich.
You're going to be driving home from the last class in Lambeau.
So why don't you stop being naive?
So he's sold, uh, weed, weight loss, colon cleanses, uh, the aforementioned
get rich quick class, and you can kind of see why Trump likes this guy.
Uh, he claims to be a billionaire with a track record of crypto success
while having been involved with just one crypto project called Do Finance, which at least that's
memorable, that attracted $3.2 million in total activity and was immediately like just like taken
down by massive scams. Yeah it got hacked for about 2 million.
They're like, oh, oops, there goes that project.
Look, that's still a $1.2 million profit.
Yeah.
2 million loss.
Yeah, I'm sure it was hacked by him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know what happened.
He's described himself as the dirtbag of the internet
and claimed that regulators should kick shit heads like me
out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's great.
In one 2018 video about crypto, he bragged that you can literally sell shit in a can
wrapped in piss, covered in human skin, for a billion dollars if the story's right,
because people will buy it.
Wow.
Which might be the best description of the crypto industry I've ever heard.
He's very honest.
It's just wild that he is still involved in the crypto industry after being on the record saying that.
I wonder if he does this though too, to like avoid legal liability, how some
scammers be like, well, I said, I, I tell people I'm a scammer.
I said, I said I'm a dirt bag of the internet.
I said, regulators should kick shit heads like me out.
Yeah.
So your honor, that's my defense.
The last quote that I read about that you can sell any bullshit shit
in a can wrapped in piss covered in human skin.
I guess I'm curious about how would it be?
Cause you don't, you can't wrap something in piss.
Yeah.
He's, I don't think that it was that well thought through.
Um, and to wit, he did say that in a video recorded as he drove in a Rolls Royce.
So he said, I'm not, I'm not going to question the right and wrong on all that.
The other guy, Folkman registered quote date hotter girls Girls LLC, which is a website that's home to insightful
articles such as 14 Reasons Your Shirt is Cockblocking You, and also Five Hobbies That
Get Girls, including, quote, music and sports.
I just love that this guy's like, if you were to come up with just like the perfect like
stereotype of like 2000s hustle culture, bro, it's like this guy, you know, right.
Total dipshit.
Well, it's like, well, like, I guess it's like Trump is, if Trump is the stereotype
of sleazy 1980s millionaire, this guy is the stereotype of like 2008 sleazy millionaire in a way that's like, I don't
know, kind of fun.
What do you do?
It's like, I just like, rather than like hocking
my wares to like desperate people who are trying to
get out of poverty, I sell it to like men who have
been on a wayward journey of like self-actualization
seeking companionship.
And I just milk them for a lot.
This one article, three tips to dating women in
your social circle, which is like, oh, uh, uh, or fucking red flag city already.
It says casual is key.
Being casual nonchalant is always important when trying to get hookup with girl.
What?
With, when trying to get hookup with girl.
AI wouldn't even do this shit.
However, it is even more important when dealing with girls in your social circles.
Two, show don't tell. When interacting with a woman you just met at a bar type.
Wait, is this your social circle?
If it's someone you just met?
Does this guy have friends?
I'm not sure if this guy has friends.
Yeah.
And then he has a number of interactions with people who he impresses with, uh, some
various matrices that are, have been deemed appealing, such as doing music and doing sports.
Wow.
I really want to Google this 14 reasons your shirt is cock blocking you lists.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's like one, it's not Dan flashes two, it's not Dan flashes three.
It's not, look, it's just, it's not Dan flashes.
Okay.
I'm going to look at what is number, what is number six?
I'm just gonna pick a random one.
Tucking in a t-shirt.
Never under any circumstances
tuck your t-shirt into your pants.
Women do not want to date a 90s sitcom star.
I don't know, people love Jeremy Allen White
wearing a nice tucked in Calvin Klein t-shirt right now.
So I don't know where he got that one.
Seems like that's working out for him.
Number 12, too busy.
Keep it simple.
You need this guy.
It doesn't understand damn flashes clearly.
Yeah.
Number four graphics.
Wait, what t-shirt do they want you to wear?
Just white t-shirt.
It says, okay, if one is too big, two to too small, three, wrong color, four graphics,
five, wrong setting, six, wrinkly seven, tucking in a t-shirt, eight, tucking into jeans.
Does that, that feels completely redundant.
No, they're, they were just like, the number 14 is our target for this story.
Number 14 is just the word neck.
Yeah.
You got a neck?
Say goodbye to sex.
Holy shit.
The nine is just stains.
Yeah, sure.
Thanks.
Wait, what?
I'm not supposed to wear a stained t-shirt?
Sweat, mud, or mustard, a stained shirt isn't going to get you laid.
This tells her that your life's too chaotic to even take care of your clothing. Not, not an attractive trait to display.
Go buy a stain remover pen or throw this shirt out.
My favorite part of this article is if you scroll to the bottom, zero likes,
zero comments.
Yeah.
It seems like these guys did their research.
These are the things that make my t-shirt cock block me.
Yeah.
Oh yeah. Well, Joey, uh, my t-shirt cock block me.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Well, Joey, it's been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist as always.
Where can people find you and follow you?
Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. This is so fun.
You can find me on Twitter and I believe bluesky at joeytainment and you can find
me on Instagram and threads at joeycliffed
with five or six i's.
And then something I wanted to talk about is kind of part of that, things to check out.
I'm a member of the animation guild.
We're in the process of negotiating our next contract with the studios.
And it's a fight.
Animation workers, we make a ton of people a ton of money and a lot of that doesn't really
trickle down to us.
And we're just fighting for a fair deal that we deserve.
So if you want to know more information
about the plight of animation workers,
I definitely suggest following the social media accounts
Animation Workers Ignited, as well as the Animation Guild
for updates and things you can do to kind of support our fight.
And definitely use the hashtag
Stand With Animation and No Contract Cartoons.
And tweet about how much you love cartoons
and how much you feel like people like me
that make cartoons that you love
deserve to make a fair wage.
Absolutely.
So I can afford a t-shirt that doesn't cock block me.
But it has to be Garfield.
But it will be Garfield.
Stained neck t-shirts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh man.
Amazing.
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Honestly, so work of media, I'm just going to talk about animation labor a bit more.
There's this really great tweet that I believe is tweeted by the Animation Guild showing,
basically it says, in 2024, there will be 430 movies released.
7.4% of those movies are animated, but 25.1% of those, but those 7.4% of movies make up
25.1% of total box office gross. So, you know, I think that like, this is, this is the kind of
thing that you can see on animation workers ignited and the animation guild is just like how,
how much money we make for these studios and how little they pay us in return. So yeah,
just a media walk media look at pro animation union labor stuff.
Check that out.
There's like a word to describe, like this like fucked up thing that keeps
happening to people that do jobs.
I'm like, yeah, they're making a bunch of money for like other people
and they don't get nothing of it.
What's the state of like the negotiations, like how, how fucked up
are the studios being right now?
Yeah.
So like, you know, I guess that I like, I can't go into like super specific details, but like...
Just give names.
Yeah, but okay, names and addresses of CEOs, here you go.
Yeah, so one of the things that I think, and this kind of has to do with what we were talking about earlier about like AI.
Jeff Katzenberg, who's the founder of DreamWorks, said in an interview last year that he's really
excited about AI because with the use of AI, animated films and TV shows will be 90% faster
and more efficient to make, which to me says that you're going to erase 90% of jobs that
people in animation work.
You're going to use our art to train that AI to replace us. So something that we're really,
I think that our membership is very passionate about
is getting strong AI protections
because it's like if the studios had their way,
one, AI is half-cooked and not ready to make good stuff.
So basically the nightmare future that we could have
is they just ask us to do punch-ups
on like AI written scripts
and pay us a fraction of the time to do it.
And the AI scripts are bad
because AI wrote it, not a human, you know?
So it's like, so yeah, it is just,
it is a big fight that we're going through right now.
And this really feels like it's like a generational,
like, you know, a generational fight
that's like gonna dictate the future of,
if animation is something you can do as a career. And, you know, a generational fight that's like going to dictate the future of if animation is something you can do as a career.
And you know, but I do think that something that's really cool to see is like, we're so
engaged as a membership right now.
We had like 2500 people show up to a parking lot in Burbank last month to like an animation
rally that we put on.
Like, there's a lot of like, I think that we've been like pro animation worker hashtags
have been like the number one hashtags on Twitter
Multiple times over the past like, you know a couple months
So it's like I think we're in it for the long haul and we're in it for the fight
But you know, it's as all negotiations go. It's like it's yeah, you know, it's like it's just it's a push and pull and but
It does feel like if we don't get a good deal. We won't be able to do this as a career anymore, you know
Yeah, right It does feel like if we don't get a good deal, we won't be able to do this as a career anymore. Yeah.
Which will be bad for you,
the viewer, if you're not an animator,
but you just enjoy animation.
Yeah. It's like, if you want to watch like Slop made by AI,
by all means, but if you want actual good shows that you're fans of,
made by humans, support us in our fight.
Right.
Yeah. Do it.
Miles, where can people find you?
Is there work in media you've been enjoying?
Find me at milesofgrey on Twitter and Instagram.
Hell, even on PlayStation network where I'm actually really liking Star Wars
outlaws, despite what all of the haters say.
What else?
Find Jack on the basketball podcast.
Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties.
Find me on the 90 day fiance podcast podcast, 420 Day Fiance.
Some tweets I like.
First one is pretty wild.
It's from at Abbey Oselse.
It's a photo.
She's at an airport bar and it says,
I'm sitting next to a Lincoln impersonator
at the airport bar.
He's watching MSNBC reporting
on yesterday's assassination attempt.
This is easily the most surreal thing I've ever witnessed.
This dude is truly an Abraham Lincoln looking motherfucker.
Lincoln.
Fully.
Fully.
Right?
Like that dude.
Oh yeah.
The look on his face is, did I cause this?
Yeah.
He was like almost like, am I in danger?
Yeah.
Like it's really, I totally, 100%, I agree.
That is very surreal. And then the next one, it's a quote I totally 100%. I agree.
That is very surreal.
And then the next one, it's a quote tweet from the state of New Jersey.
First person asked at Sork Insel tweeted, I respect that Virginia is for lovers, but
we need a state for haters.
And then New Jersey said, you called.
Great.
Shout out New Jersey. Tweet, I've been enjoying disgraced congressman at M33333G4N, the sequel to Megan, I guess.
When I watch Emily in Paris, I feel like a dog whose owner left the TV on for them while
they go run errands.
I think that is the experience.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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On Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page and a website,
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and our footnotes.
Footnotes?
We link them to the information that we talked about
in today's episode as well as a song
that we think you might enjoy.
Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? A really dope band, just really just real groovy, funky band. The South Hill Experiment with a
track called Little Monk featuring one of my favorite drummers, Kareem Riggins. This is just
a nice head bopper, chin to chest, neck bouncer, you know what I mean? So check this one out,
Little Monk featuring Kareem Riggins
by The South Hill Experiment.
All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes.
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