The Daily Zeitgeist - Robert Mueller: Fake Messiah, Woke Barbies 4.5.18
Episode Date: April 5, 2018In episode 120, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss if the Mueller investigation is actually going anywhere, Scott Pruitt being a scammer through and through, Ryan Zinke's ...shady, racist behavior, up to 2 billion Facebook profiles compromised, the new 'woke' Barbie series, & more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Yammy Returns!
It's Yammy Yam Yam.
Return of Jafar.
Return of Jummy.
Wait, is Return of Jafar like one of those off-brand sequels?
I would actually call it an extremely on-brand sequel.
Oh, my bad.
I used to have a big old crush on Jafar,
and so we were watching the Return of Jafar constantly.
Jafar was a stunt queen.
Jafar was straight up gorgeous, very elegant, amazing cheekbones.
Mean.
I love a meanie.
I love a mean, pointy-looking
guy. Also, not a bad
leader, though. The town
did okay under him, I feel like.
And also, they were making some crazy decisions.
You know, the first man who walks into town
on an elephant just gets to marry
the... You know what?
Jafar did his time.
Jafar's like, hey, what about
me too? You know, me too, Jafar. Hashtag me too, yes. Hashtag Jafar did his time. Jafar's like, hey, what about me too?
You know, me too, Jafar.
Hashtag me too, yes.
Hashtag Jafar as well.
And he's taking over from a guy who's like totally disconnected from his palace.
I just feel like he was being responsible.
Jafar is basically Rasputin.
Right, exactly.
He's just like, you know, the resident wizard who just wants a job.
Yeah, and he was definitely fucking the Sultan, right?
Oh, for sure.
And I feel like the Sultan was just like, you know what?
I'm not like, I don't want to give it to you.
It was a little mind game.
Jamie, what is something from your search history?
Oh, boy. I got a lot of search, a lot of passive aggressive search history recently.
Uh-oh.
I've been, so because of reasons I'll get into later, I was looking up
a lot of three
and four letter words.
So three letter words,
four letter words,
recent search.
How to improve
WikiFeet page.
I've been trying to,
I've really been thinking
about my score a lot.
Did it go up?
Because last show
you discovered
you did in fact
have a WikiFeet page.
So yes.
So for the gang who were very kind and were like, but it turned out I already had a wiki
feet page, have for six months, didn't know, and had a pretty-
Four star.
Four stars.
Y'all four star feet.
And then I was really running my mouth about it and I think, and then my rating went up
to almost five stars.
Beautiful feet.
There are no flicks on there though, right? No pictures. No one knows my shoe sizes. mouth about it and i think and and then my rating went up to almost five stars beautiful feet there
are no flicks on there though right no pictures no one knows my shoe sizes and i fucking dare you
to figure it out you know it's funny i think on the show yesterday or last week when you were here
we're like oh we'll put the feet in the pic or whatever and then a few people were like yo where
the feet at i got some i went to like the deep dms Instagram, and you're just like, oh, people want to see the feet.
They want the feet.
Yeah.
I mean, good luck.
Because the thing is, the feet, they're bad.
But then I went back down to nice as of yesterday, and I was like, oh.
Oh, there's levels to the feet.
Yeah, your rating changes, and it's really been affecting my moods.
Wait, so you went from what to what?
I started nice.
I went up to beautiful for a few days, and I was feeling like, well, I shoplifted.
I was feeling great.
That's what you do when you feel good.
I can do anything I want.
Thank you for all those D batteries, though, too.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So for everyone who I just gave batteries and Twix eggs to,
I shoplifted those when I had beautiful feet. Now I'm back to nice.
Now I'm just like, oh man.
I'm actually going to take the stuff back.
There was a moment where I was like, I could just create
a bunch of shell accounts and just make my feet
beautiful again.
But that's cheating.
That's where it starts.
You just go down a rabbit hole.
Can't catfish my own feet.
That's what happened to Tara Reid.
Is that how she got to where she is?
Started fucking with the fake-ass bot accounts,
trying to get her foot score up,
and look what happened to her.
Dude, I know.
That's true.
What is something you think is underrated?
Underrated, actually, follow-up thought,
treating people based on the state of your WikiFeets account.
Because I saw a friend yesterday, like right after I saw my...
Because I've been compulsively checking it.
Shout out to all my OCD heads who love to refresh a page.
That's my favorite page to refresh right now.
And when I saw it went down to nice, I got lunch with my friend right after.
And I realized in the middle, I was like, I'm being kind of aggressive and a little mean to my dear friend.
And she was just like, are you like, okay, is everything going fine?
And I was just like, I think I'm upset because someone said my feet were ugly and I can't figure out who it is.
And I mean, I can't.
And it's really hard to create an account.
So I was rude to one of my oldest friends because people are being –
and I would say that that's underrated and a very funny way to mood ring your own life.
I'm just going to tell you.
I don't want to trigger you.
But have you looked at the spread of your ratings and where you lie, where people's opinions are?
People have strong opinions.
I know because you have two ugly ratings, two votes for ugly.
Okay.
Miles. Two for nice. What are you doing, Miles? And five for beautiful. I'm just – I know, you have two ugly ratings, two votes for ugly. Okay. Miles.
Two for nice.
What are you doing, Miles?
And five for beautiful.
I'm just, you know.
I know, but it's.
It's called exposure therapy.
Oh, trust me.
I've done exposure therapy.
You need to look at these numbers right now and accept them.
Shout out to my exposure therapy heads up.
Yeah.
Majority of 2016.
No, it's true though because it's like, and the ugly, the new ugly,
which I am like,
one of my enemies
made a WikiFeets account.
Yeah, because that's what
bumped me back down nice
from beautiful.
All right, well,
this is what we're going to do.
You know what we're going to do?
Zeitgang,
go to wikifeet.com.
Create my couch.
Go to Jamie's page
and upvote the shit out of it.
Get her back to beautiful.
Get me back to beautiful.
Even though them shits are ugly,
yourself admittedly.
It is straight up, I have hobbit feet. It's not me. It's actually Get her back to beautiful. Even though them shits are ugly, yourself admittedly.
It is straight up, I have hobbit feet.
Wait, are there pictures of your feet?
I don't know how wicky feet work.
There would be, right?
If you were a celebrity.
Yeah, but I'm not.
There is one super deluxe video I made once where you can see my feet,
and my feet are very dirty in the thing.
It's just like, we had been walking around barefoot all day,
and so there's like –
That'll do it every time.
That'll do it every time.
But you were a dancer, right?
I was a dancer.
So is that why your feet look like the Throne of Gangstown?
That's why.
Lots of curled, gnarled.
You can tell.
You're like, oh, this isn't the first iteration of this toenail.
This is version three and a half.
A lot of reboots of toenails lurking around on the feet.
Jamie, what's something you think is overrated?
Oh, hold on.
Anna just pointed out, it says people who liked Jamie Loftus' feet also liked Jennifer Gardner,
AJ Cook, Hilary Duff, Marguerite Moreau, and Ariana Grande.
That is great company
to be in
I would prefer
some intellectuals
throw in Maya Angelou
who does have a page
oh wow
yeah
good to know
anyways
you know
surf away
this is how we're
going to get you
in a Tarantino movie
oh my god
it's the easiest way
because you know
he loves the feet
you just gotta bait him
you just gotta bait
god what a cunt
yeah but like
go for the anti-foot Tarantino.
Stop highlighting the beautiful feet women.
Yeah, start looking at some really-
The real feet.
Gnarled up, stinky feet, please.
Thank you.
What's something you think is overrated?
Overrated, unfortunately, also because the last time I was here, I talked about how much
I love a series of unfortunate events, have since seen the new season of the show.
No.
Not good.
I don't think that there is a more poorly casted television show
currently running.
It is crazy how all the casting on that show is straight up bad.
And I'm also salty because Alison Williams got cast
in my dream part for when I was a tiny little child.
She's just getting all the parts.
Fucking Peter Pan.
Motherfucking Get Out.
Oh, you're someone's daughter.
I'll fight her.
Yeah, there you go.
Everyone is someone's daughter.
I can't tell if she's really good at playing somebody who is really hateable or if she's really hateable.
somebody who is really hateable or if she's really hateable.
Yeah, I wonder what
she's actually like because maybe
she is just capitalizing on being
hard to be around.
I have a question, Jamie.
This is going to be hard for our audience to know. I'm looking at your keyboard.
How much Cheeto dust
is on your computer keyboard right now?
It looks like all Pirates booty dust.
Excuse me. I have
I would say shotguns, three bags of pirate booty since I entered the building.
And you're flying.
That's a current dusting.
Oh, shit.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to take a picture.
I have to yammy lofty.
Okay, I'm going to lean in.
Hey, we keep referencing your last appearance.
I spoke to my mom over the weekend.
Oh, yeah.
And she listens to our show
and she specifically called out your episode
she said I really liked the episode
with J Loaf
and I was like
you know
that was the same young woman
who was at the live show that you came to
she only came to one of my live shows at Cracked
I met your mom
yeah you met my mom
and you talked the entire set about coming during frazier and i was thinking about how frazier and
niles make you come and uh it's true that like i got halfway through the sentence like to remind
my mom about i was like oh you she was from the live show. You met her. She's the one who talked about,
and then I remember that you talked about just, yeah.
Coming to Frasier.
Coming to Frasier.
Remember, Mom?
Yeah.
Yeah, I just, I finished it with full confidence.
I didn't shy away.
You digress.
You've got a big fan in Philadelphia.
And I'm glad the Harry Potter fans out there,
because they were upset at you.
They came for you.
Someone canceled you.
It's like, I don't know.
If you met her, you would understand her.
I understand that Harry Potter is something
that's important to people.
It's not my fave.
But now I'm fully humbled right now,
because season two, a series of unfortunate events.
Neil Patrick Harris needs to chill out.
You can't sing in every show, bitch.
You can't.
Oh, dare him.
Wow.
I know, like, don't cast him in a part
where he's supposed to play a villain.
He's like, but I need to sing in a carnival.
Like, you can't just sing in a carnival every single time.
That's what you said.
Someone needs to sit him down and just be like,
Neil, you're so talented.
We love you.
You can't just tap dance during the villain scene.
This is a tal-intervention.
Yes, a tal-intervention.
Jamie, what is a myth?
What's something people think is true that you know to be false?
Okay, here's a myth.
That a pirate's booty dust can damage your keyboard.
It absolutely can.
I think this is several years worth of pirate booty dust.
I tried blowing it up off it's all fixed
this is uh i've been fully ashamed the entirety no no no i just love it so my myth that i have
was not able to bust is you can defeat the ioc so so today, you know, it's important to know when you have been.
You know when you've been bested.
Yeah.
So, the IOC basically is responsible for my Twitter account of 10 years being taken away
at Hamburger Phone, rest in paradise.
I would just, if it's okay, I would like to just say a few words about my Twitter.
Yes, that's fine.
Is this a eulogy for your Twitter?
A brief eulogy.
Okay.
One of the best out there.
Thank you.
And I started a new Twitter today.
And you guys can find that out at the end of the show.
Yeah, you're going to have to freaking wait.
So stick around to figure out when to announce.
Tease local news anchor.
And we'll have that after local, whatever.
Go on.
But you do, like, when you form your identity on social media.
Yeah.
I got the handle when I was 14 years old, immediately after seeing the movie Juno.
And that is the bright side of all of this, is my Twitter handle is no longer a reference to Juno.
That is something we can all cheer for.
But some things that happened with this Twitter.
I crunched the numbers.
I met or got to know better half of my sexual
partners via this twitter account i got jobs based on this twitter account i lost both a job at a hot
dog stand for tweeting fuck hot dogs oh no yes yes yo and my boss found it and was just like
you don't seem passionate about the position, and therefore you are fired.
What did we say?
You have to wear the hat at Hot Dog on a Stick, Jamie.
What did they think?
Your fucking handle is hamburger phone, not hot dog phone.
Right.
I'm just trying to stay loyal to my brand.
They didn't understand.
And then I also got fired from the Boston Club
from that Twitter account.
Did you really?
I did, yeah.
Why?
What did you say?
In 2015, I tweeted, when I do well at an open mic, I come so hard I bleed.
And I was working as a reporter at a major newspaper.
But I did get fired.
Well, look.
They got to know that's your style.
You're open.
You're who you are.
Yeah.
Facts are facts, Boston Globe.
Yeah.
Fact check that.
You can't fact check that. Because it's, well, you can. And it was true. Right. Jamie facts, Boston Globe. Yeah. Fact check that. You can't fact check that because it's, well, you can and it was true.
Right.
Jamie's a great writer.
So that's what she was doing working at Boston Globe.
That's why you don't get it.
Wow.
And why don't you just share your Twitter handle now?
My new Twitter handle is Jamie Loftus Help.
Jamie Loftus Help.
I think we should leap that out so people will listen to the end of this show.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, but that's true.
You went up against the International Olympic Committee.
Honestly.
And they got you.
There is no more evil organization that you could create a feud with than the International Olympic Committee.
They are the worst.
They are corrupt.
I'm basically Tonya Harding. You are. You know who else was bested by the IOC? You're Tonya Harding, except They are corrupt. I'm basically Tonya Harding. You are.
You know who else was bested by the IOC? Except you are innocent.
I'm surprised you didn't do this.
I'm digital Tonya Harding.
Dude, that should have been your handle.
God damn it. No! Jamie Loftus
helped. Because if you think about it,
your past film obsession was
Juno, and now it is now
I, Tonya. I tried.
I was like, I, Jamie Loftus? Is that a good Twitter handle?
No.
It's just kind of confusing.
It looks scary.
Jamie Loftus, help.
That's where you can find all this shit from now on.
Boom.
And let's get into the stories, guys.
We're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now. And I wanted to start out talking about the Mueller
investigation because we talked about this story that broke in the Washington Post a few days back,
the one that said that Trump is not a target of a criminal investigation. He is a subject. So he's
like somehow involved. He's not a witness, which is the most innocent sort of way you can be involved in an investigation.
But he's also not the target.
And the immediate reaction to that among sort of the mainstream media, for the most part, was that Mueller is sort of slow rolling this, trying to draw Trump into a interview.
And that's what we reported.
We were like, yeah, so that must be what it is.
But the more you think about it, and I actually read an article on The Hill from a law professor
at, I think, George Washington, who I thought for a second,
like after I read it, I was like, oh, this must be a Fox News talking head because he was like,
when is the media going to accept that Trump is not a criminal target, that like the Mueller
investigation might not go the way they think it's going to go? He might not get caught up in this thing. And, you know, I looked this guy up. I was expecting
him to be like Sean Hannity's main legal expert. But he is just a liberal law school person that
I guess he has written some weird problematic stuff, Miles, you were pointing out.
It is another weird blog post. But I mean, I get the article is written pretty, you know, apolitically of just sort of like trying to look at, look, there's not
a lot adding up so far. And this is the thing I think even since the beginning, like whenever,
you know, when we've talked about, should we talk about this thing in the mother thing or not? Like
we've always kind of just said on and off Mike that it's like this, a lot of people are putting
a lot of their eggs in the basket because this is like the one logical thing that could bring a conclusion that people would want right
in terms of like some kind of karmic justice and also kind of invalidate 2016 right people are
still that's like a wound yeah people are still you know dealing with right so i get what the
point he's making of just sort of like yeah because you know he brings up a lot of points like people on CNN were just like, oh, man, he's totally fucked or whatever.
And, yeah, and even yesterday we were whenever that was, maybe the day before.
I don't know.
Time's a blur that, you know, we were saying you can go from a subject to a target.
Right.
And that's still the case.
That's still the case.
That's not the main takeaway.
That shouldn't be your first instinct.
No. And like there were no stories in the immediate aftermath of this revelation in The Washington Post or in The New York Times that said what
this guy was saying, which is this is really good news for Trump. This seems to suggest, OK,
if they had said he was a subject but not a target, like when the investigation was starting,
that wouldn't have been like a good or a bad thing because, you know, but
he's been investigating him for like over a year now and he still hasn't found anything
that immediately ties him to the crime.
That's not to say that he didn't commit a crime and there is certainly a lot of smoke
there, but it just might be that they aren't going to be able to find the evidence.
Right.
Or it's just a bunch of people around him were doing the crimes.
Right.
You know, I feel like it is like at this point, the, the Mueller investigation does sort of
feel like when you're like trying to like undo a breakup or something, you're like,
well, maybe if this happens, it'll work.
And then, and then it's like, that doesn't work.
You're like, well, maybe if I do this, this'll work.
And it's been going on for so long.
It's like, I mean, not that we should just accept that Trump is.
I mean, absolutely not.
But it does seem like, you know, every time there's a new thing, it's like we're kind of grasping at a straw there.
And then that doesn't go through.
And then it's another thing.
Yeah. I mean, the sexiest thing has been like indictments of people like Paul Manafort.
But like even the Russians were like, whatever.
Those are people that they just found for like fraud and other things like that.
But I think at the end of the day, it's, it's hard to speculate either direction, right?
Like there's not enough for you to be like, oh, well nothing like, like guys come off
it.
Yeah.
And there's also not enough also to be just nutting yourself when you're like, oh, this
guy's entitled to fucking.
So yeah, I think it really all depends on how you look.
So yeah, I think it really all depends on how you look.
I'm just so hesitant because this dude, like honestly, I don't know what will stick to this guy that will get even the Republicans in the House to say like even a bad thing about him.
So regardless of this, if you really want to go to sleep at night and give yourself a North Star to live by, focus on the midterms. Right.
And just work on just taking back
the fucking House and the Senate.
That's really how you're going to curb his power.
Human beings can actually do stuff.
Yeah, because Bobby Digital is not going to come through
and be like,
get out of here, Donald Trump.
That was my RZA impersonation, by the way.
Bobby Digital would have been another great voter handle.
When the RZA switched to Bobby Digital for that one album.
What about Bobby Mueller or? Bobby Digital for that one album. What about Bobby Muller or
Bobby Moynihan.
Mary Fuck Kill.
Bobby Moynihan.
Bobby Muller. Bobby Durst.
Oh, Robert Durst.
Mary Fuck Kill.
I know you want to marry Robert Durst.
I want to marry Robert Durst.
Jamie Loftus Durst is too long, unfortunately.
Or Durst Wife 3, I think is the other one.
Durst Wife 3 would have been a dope one.
I will say that, yes, I would marry Robert Durst.
Okay, moving on.
Well, just because I want to die.
Just because I'm looking to die.
An efficient way to go.
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And we're back and uh we wanted to talk a little bit about a couple guys who i thought were the same person up until uh maybe
last week uh scott pruitt and ryan zinke for reason, I was just like, they have the same sort of,
their names don't sound alike, but their names are the same level of weirdness.
I don't know.
For some reason.
A guy named Scott and a guy named Ryan is weird?
They just, no, no, no.
Like, they're very normal.
They're very normal.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Their first names are very normal.
Their last names are the same, sort of like, you know, 50% weird.
Anyways, that's my theory on why.
I like this rating system.
Can you sort of diagram this?
Jamie, you are 45% weird.
No.
Ooh.
I like it.
What about Jamie Loftus-Durst?
How does that change the equation?
Your new handle, 45% weird.
You're edging off.
No, but I don't know why I thought they were the same person.
Because they're both shitbags and they're department secretaries.
So we wanted to talk about them separately because they are both in the news for being, as Miles puts it, God scam God.
I would say Scott Pruitt, a.k.a. God scam God.
Deep cut reference to the Providence basketball player, God sham God.
With a sick crossover.
Woo, boy, let me tell you about the Sham God.
Made you go Sham wow.
The decision to name your son God
when your last name is Sham God is fucking amazing.
But also, Sham, you're a Sham God.
A scam God, anyway.
He is God and all other gods are Sham Gods.
Reminds me of my ex-boyfriend, Scam Likely.
Oh, Scam Likely, Scamuel Likely. Oh, Scam Likely. Scamual
Likely. Well, and his evil twin
Scamron. Scamron Likelington.
Scamron Likeling. So yeah, Scott
Pruitt basically is on some next level kleptocrat
shit. So we're talking about the swamp.
Last week, I think we talked about his
quote-unquote living arrangement, you know, because he was like
living at a condo that a
lobbyist's wife owned. So what is
his job, Miles? He is the head of the EPA.
The Environmental Protection Agency.
So he's about protecting the environment.
The EPA, the villain of the first Ghostbusters movie.
Thank you.
He is basically that guy.
Better than us.
Yes.
So basically, yes, he watches over a lot of chemical people,
energy industry people, you know,
just to make sure
that the environment is not being completely destroyed. So cut to, we already knew he was
getting like $50 a night Airbnb style thing at this lobbyist's wife's condo. Then we find out
that there were parties being thrown and like fundraisers at this condo he was staying in with
like other energy lobbyists and other politicians and shit.
And the whole defense was sort of like, well, I just rent the bedroom.
So if something's going down the rest of the house, I don't know.
I just rent the room.
So while he lived there for $50 a night in this enormous palatial place, there were lobbyist parties being thrown.
That's like a very Jersey Shore mentality to like, yeah, living in a house.
Yeah, just having the parties.
So they were saying there's a few fundraisers going on.
He was just saying, look, bro, I just rent the joint.
You know what I mean?
So then we find out also that the lobbyist whose wife owns the building had a huge project
basically approved sort of by the EPA.
So one of this lobbyist clients was under the Obama administration to find
sixty one million dollars for spilling like thousands of gallons of oil into the Kalamazoo
River.
Whoopsies.
And they were like, that's what you say before you do that.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't know.
J.K.
LOL.
J.K.
So then when they had this next project, the EPA had to kind of sign off and be like, oh,
these guys like, you know, they know what they're doing.
And he just without even referencing the fact that they completely fucked up he was just like oh yeah
they're they're great good to go so who knows man maybe that's pay-per-play i don't know who gives
a shit right uh then the scam started heating up okay the scam likely uh we already knew he was
taking first class and business class flights because he was saying that when he flies like
coach or whatever are people just mean to him because he's destroying the fucking earth.
So he was like, I can't deal with poors because they're like pointing out my fuckery.
So that's why that was sort of the basis of his argument is like, that's why I have to fly first.
That does suggest that people who can't afford first class are just naturally more violent people.
Of course.
Yes.
Poor people are crazy.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So and also someone who just can't confront his own bullshit.
Right.
So then this shit comes up with two of his aides that when he was in Oklahoma that he brought with him to D.C. when he became the head of the EPA.
One woman, Sarah Greenwalt, she's 30 and was his legal counsel.
She's only making a paltry $107,000 a year.
Oh, my God.
Then his other, another aide, this woman, Milan Hupp, she's 26.
And I mean, I don't think any 26 year old should have to live off of just a meager $86,000
a year.
Right.
So he was like, you know what?
Y'all need some fucking raises.
He's like 50% and 30% respectively.
So he goes to that presidential personnel office we talked about where everybody's just
vaping all the time. Right. Because that's where he had to go to personnel office we talked about where everybody's just vaping
all the time.
Right.
Because that's where he had to go
to get like,
it's like the HR
to get the razor proof.
We should,
for anybody who missed that episode.
I think that's Friday's episode.
Yeah.
There is an office
in the White House
where they basically,
it's supposed to be in charge
of personnel and like hiring
and all that stuff.
But they basically use it
to stow nepotistic appointments
and you know like the
dumb kid who you had to give a job right and they are there like cages like how did they there's mad
couches the washington poster uh some actual journalistic entity went and they were like yeah
it's just a bunch of kids like vaping yeah in the white but the way they wrote is like smoking
e-cigarettes or vaping right um so they they're vaping. So they said, no, you're not getting this fucking raise.
Right.
Even they were like, no, man.
They were like, bruh, that's a lot of money.
I mean, does 50% even keep up with inflation?
No.
Right.
So this guy is such a fucking next level scammer.
He found a loophole in the Safe Drinking Water Act that allows an EPA administrator to hire up to 30 people in the agency without
white house or congressional approval so mr pruitt just shifted those women over to that so he could
grant these insane raises so now uh sarah greenwalt who's uh the general legal counsel for him 164
000 and uh milan who's 26 she's making 116000 now. So shout out to you. Great boss. Also, Jack, where's my fucking raise?
And also, like, what's crazy is, like, this woman who's a legal counsel, she's, like,
making more than, like, lifers at the administration, who's, like, the EPA's general counsel.
And also the other woman who's, like, the scheduler, she's making, like, way more money
than most people who have been there since the Obama administration.
So people are fucking hot.
And not to mention, he also is making lobbyists from certain industries,
like the people who are overseeing the regulations.
So he appointed a chemical industry lobbyist to be the deputy head of the Office of Chemical Safety.
Right.
And the cool thing about that-
This is the whole way that all of the bureaucracies under Trump are working.
The people who are supposed to be regulating different industries
are actually, they're hiring
people from those industries
who in the past have been in charge
of fighting those departments.
So, I mean, and this is
going to cause
people to die in the future because
chemicals are going to get into our water
supply and
that's how people die. Hey, but I'm 26 and I need me a hundred thousand, supply. And that's how people die.
Hey, but I'm 26 and I need to make $100,000, bro.
So that's how I'm thinking.
Yeah, in my defense, I would love $100,000.
So I can't wait until that argument goes to court.
It's like, well, to be fair, I love money.
Right.
It's that bad.
So here's the funny part.
It's that bad.
So Scott Pruitt had to go on Fox News to do a little interview
because they're like,
bro, it's getting a little hot.
And over the weekend, Trump was like, no, we support you.
But as these scandals come out, it's getting much and much more hairy for him.
So he goes on Fox, which you think is like the home team.
Right, softball.
Yeah, it's a layup, bro.
It's a fucking dunk.
It's a fucking grand slam.
It's a windmill jam, daddy.
It's a fucking dunk. It's a fucking grand slam. It's a windmill jam, daddy. Fave meal.
So, yeah.
Suffice it to say, shit did not go that well for him on Fox.
So peep this little bit of interview.
If you're committed to the Trump agenda,
why did you go around the president and the White House
and give pay raises to two staffers?
I did not.
My staff did, and I found out about that yesterday,
and I changed it.
So somebody being fired for that?
That should not have been done.
So who did it?
There would be some accountability.
A career person or a political person?
I don't know.
I don't know.
You don't know?
You don't know who did it?
I found out about this yesterday and I corrected the action.
So we are in the process of finding out how it took place and correcting it.
So hang on.
Both of these staffers who got these large pay raises are friends of yours.
I believe from Oklahoma, right?
They are staffers here in the agency.
Then they're from, they're friends of yours.
Well, they serve a very important person.
And you didn't know that they got these large pay raises?
I did not know that they got the pay raises
until yesterday.
Okay, one of them got a pay raise of,
let's see, $28,000, the other was $56,000.
Do you know what the median income in this country is?
Fuck.
No, what is it?
$57,000 a year.
Okay. Whoa!
So one of your friends from Oklahoma got a pay raise that's the medium income pay raise.
They did not get a pay raise.
They did not get a pay raise.
They did.
No, they did not.
They did not.
I stopped that yesterday.
So you stopped it.
Are you embarrassed that you run this agency?
It should not have happened.
President Trump said he would drain the swamp.
Is draining the swamp renting an apartment from the wife of a Washington lobbyist?
I don't think that that's even remotely fair to ask that question.
ExxonMobil is a client.
Mr. Hart has no clients that has business before this agency.
ExxonMobil has no business.
He's a member of a law firm.
To take his relationship and extend it.
You're not answering the question.
You said some pretty tough stuff.
You said about the president, quote,
and this is in 2016,
I think he's an empty vessel
when it comes to things like the Constitution
and rule of law.
You said that about Donald Trump.
In February of 2016.
And I will tell you, as I said here today,
as I've walked with him and served him,
I didn't know the president at that time.
So why did you say something like that?
I had not served him at that time.
And I will tell you, and I will tell you, look, that was, I was misinformed. Have you made
mistakes? I think this is something that needs to be corrected. It was a mistake. It was a mistake
by my team. So do you take responsibility? I'm fixing it. Do you take responsibility?
I'm fixing the problem. Wow. And in his defense, he's never made a mistake.
Wow.
Wow.
In his defense, he's never made a mistake.
Dude, I couldn't believe how... He sounded like one of those dudes on Cops
who is in a stolen car and just out of his head,
and then they're like, I don't know.
I think I borrowed the car from a friend.
Was I driving the car?
I don't know.
Yeah, we pulled you over.
He's not doing too well.
I was really impressed with uh ed henry
whoever the fuck that was at fox was like pressing him but again at the same time yeah we all know
why this just means that he's on the outs with the trump administration and so trump kind of gave them
the green light to just fuck with this yeah rip his head off in front of everyone right because
i think it's easier for fox to seem like objective when they go after people
that are not Trump
and who clearly
they can just be like,
oh, this is bullshit,
this is bullshit,
this is bullshit.
But let's ignore
what's really going on.
Yeah, I mean,
fundamentally,
Fox are bullies
and so when somebody
is losing power-
No, the Parkland teenagers
are bullies.
Right, that's true.
Okay, Jack.
Behind them.
That goes without saying.
Yeah, Emma Gonzalez,
clearly the biggest bully.
Oh my God. But then Fox. Certainly not Nike. And when they sense weakness, when they see that somebody is, you know, down in terms of like power in the White House and in terms of esteem in Trump's eyes, they're going to just fucking go in for the kill.
It's why they and Trump get along so well.
They have the exact same sort of logic.
Yeah.
So now let's talk about this other guy who apparently is not the same person as the guy we were just talking about, Ryan Zinke.
Yeah.
So he is Secretary of the Interior? Yeah, Department of Interior.
Okay.
You know why.
What is that?
Okay.
So they look after everything, like the federal lands, our fucking parks.
Interior, like inside.
Interior decorating.
Got it.
Mid-century modern Bauhaus, whatever.
I thought that was Ben Carson.
No, no, no.
Wait, he's not doing interior decorating anymore?
Not anymore.
I mean, Zinky had, I think, he bought like a $13,000 door or something.
Uh-huh.
But he got in trouble for some weird shit like that.
Anyway.
He's also the one who puts the flag up every time he's in. I believe
that's him. So you know that the king is in the house.
The dink is in the house. I hope he has
a fanfare that plays trumpets
whenever he enters the room.
Maybe it's the horn line from Spodey Odie Dopealicious.
That would be fucking dope.
That would be dope and upsetting at the same time
to have such an amazing song and then
for this shit bag to walk into work um so yes he looks after basically all of the federal land you
know he was the guy who opened up a lot of the national parks for you know development and things
like that people were really pissed off and like we all we talked about that a little bit on the
show uh so recently it was we find out that so at the interior he did like a huge reorg reshuffle
and it turned out a third of these people that were shuffled around were Native American.
And Native Americans make up less than 10 percent of the department's workforce.
And they do because there is a quota saying that they need to hire.
About diversity, yes.
And also because these people understand the tribal lands and things like that.
Right.
It just makes sense.
Yeah, exactly.
You're talking about the lands of this country.
And this is something that we need everyone's opinion on.
You can't have just one perspective there.
Yeah, you can't just have crazy racist Ryan Zinke.
But that was not Ryan Zinke hiring those people
based on his own judgment.
That is something he came into, right?
Yeah, these are people who were there already.
Now, just to refresh my memory,
haven't we shown a clip of Ryan Zinke before?
We didn't show a clip.
Because this is an audio medium.
This is an audio medium.
But we talked about that there was a clip.
I guess just to show you sort of where this sort of person is culturally,
his cultural sensitivity,
Colleen Hanabusa, who's like a fourth generation Japanese congressperson
from Hawaii, was asking him about
funding for like educational sites that are under his purview as the secretary of the Department of
Interior, about funding these sites that help educate Americans on Japanese internment. So as
she's asking this, he has a really cool response because she's Japanese and she's asking about
Japanese internment. He figures, let me swag on you a
little bit. Are you committed to continue the grant programs that are identified, I believe,
as the Japanese American Confinement Sites Grants Program, which were funded in 2017?
Will we see it funded again in 2018? Oh, konnichiwa.
That's real.
I think it's still ohayou gozaimasu, but that's okay.
What?
Woo!
What?
Motherfucker said konnichiwa.
The response.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Konnichiwa. You committed to reminding people about the Japanese internment.
Konnichiwa.
For real.
That's like. That was not cut together. That is his response. No, and that
pause was also... In real time? Yes.
The pause is also her going like
first she has to take it in and then
she's like, it's actually ohayou gozaimasu
because it's still the morning, motherfucker. Right.
And he was like, okay, I guess it's
after 10. That's still the
morning, you fucking dick.
T-shirt gunning salt into a wound. That's still the morning, you fucking dick. So still- T-shirt gunning salt
into a wound.
That's insane.
Yeah.
Insane.
That is,
it's also worth
watching the clip
for the,
I said this before,
but there's a woman
in the audience
behind him
who just like
her mouth opens
like after he says it
and she's just like,
he can't say that.
Right?
Like this is the worst thing anyone's ever
said, right? That's literally an arrest and development
scene. That's crazy.
That woman's jaw drops. And it's funny, when people
pressed him about it, he was like, I don't see what's wrong.
I was like, I don't have a reason to apologize. What do you mean?
I said good morning.
They were like, oh, bro, okay.
It's just like what a racist
fifth grader would say
when a Japanese person speaks to them.
Yeah.
Well, anyway.
Bananas.
So this is who we're dealing with.
Also, this man I think spent like $53,000 on helicopter rides and said he was just checking out the landscape to make sure shit was all good.
And he was just taking a fucking helicopter ride.
And also, I think the town he's from got that crazy $300 million power contract
after Hurricane Maria?
Right.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there was a small company that barely existed.
It only had three employees
when Hurricane Maria made landfall in Puerto Rico.
And he awarded them the contract
to restructure or rebuild the Puerto Rican infrastructure.
Yeah.
And that was a huge scam god.
Sham god.
Right.
Sham god.
Sham wow.
Sham god.
So now he's reshuffled all these Native Americans and also black and Hispanic employees, also women.
I wonder why.
Well, let's look at this for one reason why it was the Native American employees. These people are basically sort of the sole internal
opposing voice when it comes to like this scheme that he's trying to open up more tribal land to
the fossil fuel industry. And they're like, nah, bro, we don't need people digging for resources
on our tribal land. We already have enough going on and enough problems that this government is ignoring.
It's just a very odd look because, you know, it's going to be very hard for him to spin this decision to look like anything but the fact that he was doing this because it was
racially and politically motivated.
But, you know, it also makes sense, too, because he was so fucking excited, like backed Trump's
budget because it also like cut a lot of funding
for the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
And it's just sort of, you know,
indicative of sort of the general situation there.
Like it's terribly understaffed too.
So, you know, shout out to Ryan Zinke.
Yeah.
Shout out to Zinke.
So just real quick, the town that Ryan Zinke
and that power company are from is Whitefish, Montana,
The town that Ryan Zinke and that power company are from is Whitefish, Montana, which is home to a Fash Wave hero.
Oh, Richard Spencer?
Richard Spencer, yeah.
Oh, cool.
Of course Richard Spencer's from a town called Whitefish.
I know, exactly. But you know what?
Same on that.
It's my favorite deli thing, too.
I love Whitefish salad.
So I'm in a really hard spot here.
Thank you for speaking your truth. Shout out to Russ and Daughters, great Whitefish salad. I'm in a really hard spot here. Thank you for speaking your truth.
Shout out to Russ and Daughters Great Whitefish Salad.
Also Bethesda Bagels
Great Whitefish Salad. Can I shout out
some fish as well? Yes, please.
I'd like to shout out the discontinued
at Uno's
Moby Fish Sandwich, which was
a pile of haddock on old
bread. Sounds terrible.
Used to love it. Slather it in whatever sauce you want.
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Sorry.
So we wanted to talk about
Facebook because this is an evolving
story. We thought
we were just going to get to leave it in the past with the Cambridge Analytica hack, but it turns
out that number just keeps going up. It used to be 50 million. Now we're at 87 million people who
were given access. How big is the next jump going to be? Two billion? Well, so they are also saying
that two billion people's information have been compromised.
Like basically everyone, all the information has been compromised.
So yeah, that's not good.
Yeah.
There's also people saying that they played a role in an honest to God genocide in Myanmar.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the people who are trying to get the Rohingya out of Myanmar were using Facebook to just, you know, stoke the flames of hatred and shit and incite people.
Just nice to hear someone's using Facebook.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, so they're in a fucking terrible place right now.
Between Cambridge Analytica and then, like, having even tangentially being connected to this shit in Myanmar is a terrible look, to say the least.
So now they're coming out
and giving us access to the information
they've had about us all along.
And some of the stuff is interesting,
but I haven't been very impressed.
I also haven't really used Facebook,
never really used it,
because once it started being a thing...
Because I don't understand it.
Because it's just too complicated for me.
I still just use Hotmail.
Well, I'm curious.
I've been edging.
I've been edging.
Oh, you're edging?
I've been edging off using Facebook
for the past three to four months.
There wasn't anything in particular
that motivated it,
but I just have found myself
using it less and less
to the point where I posted the other day and I was like, oh, I haven't said anything on this thing in like a week.
It's weird.
I used to give a fuck about people on my Facebook feed.
Yeah.
And I think after a while I'm like, all right, I get it.
Like you're married.
And I think it's easier to be off Facebook now, too, because it has just such a horrendous rep.
Right.
The information that was presented to me just lost its luster.
Like in the beginning, it was cool to be like,
oh shit, that dude I went to preschool with is like a referee now or some shit.
You know what I mean?
Like it's just dumb shit like that.
Yeah, that's a pretty cool job.
No, right.
But then like as those blanks get filled in, I'm like, all right, whatever.
Fuck it.
Everyone has a life and the sort of novelty.
Like the novelty for me was-
Their lives aren't as exciting as we were hoping. Yeah, it was reconnecting with people that like i hadn't seen in years and once i know
okay y'all are fine great well it's just like oh everyone's racist yeah yeah not feeling too
good about their mental health there's that uh it is kind of like a place where I always go back to check to see if any of my friends from growing up have had opioid issues.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That seems to be a thing that's happening in a lot of places that I used to live.
Yeah.
The thing is, so because of that, you're talking about the categories, right?
You're saying the information.
Yeah, I was looking at my categories.
So categories.
I'm very liberal, apparently.
Right. Wow. Well, there's also liberal. Everybody listening. You can actually
find out what buckets you're in, according to Facebook's ad algorithms. So all you got to do
is go to your settings, right? Yeah. Or just Google how to find out what Facebook knows about
me. And there are like 90 articles. Oh, right. Right. But I'm saying if you want to see personally
like what your own information is and then go to ad preferences, then go to your information, and then go to categories,
your categories, and it'll tell you. For me, I've used it so little, the only things they know about
me is I'm liberal. I use an iPhone on a 4G network, and I have Gmail. Right. Yeah, I don't have much
either. But if you use it, it will tell you like, oh, you probably have roommates, or you know
expats, or you speak these languages.
Yeah.
Yeah, close friends of expats, which isn't really even true about me.
They also say that I'm a housemate-based household, which would suggest that I have roommates,
but I live with my wife and kids.
They're like roommates.
Wow, I love that show.
My wife and kids, the best.
Shout out to Damon Wayans.
My information?
Yep, your information. My your information And then your category
So Jamie, how do they know you?
Whoa, close friends of women with a birthday in 7 to 30 days
Close friends of people with birthdays in a week
Birthday in August, away from family
See?
Management
4G network
Away from hometown
Very liberal
MSN.com email users Oh no, you have msn.com email users oh no you have msn.com uh yeah if anyone
wants to shoot me an email to poetrypunk18 at msn.com i will never read it hey so also
zeitgang look at your categories and if there's any like super crazy ones let us know yeah the
weirdest thing anything you're like really impressed about too like wow i can't believe
they knew that i'd love to hear about that.
But in addition to becoming less cool with consumers and Jamie in particular, it is also becoming less cool to work for Facebook in Silicon Valley.
And that's becoming a concern for Facebook is that Zuckerberg is having to apologize to his engineers,
which are a very hotly competed over commodity engineering talent.
It used to be really cool to work for Facebook,
and now they're having to come home and be like,
sorry, honey, I work for Facebook.
It's just not a cool thing to work.
And if you can't recruit top engineering talent,
that is a big hit for your company.
Then who is you?
So that's an issue.
Zuckerberg just did a call with, I think,
the media and shareholders
where he was getting a lot of questions
about whether he should even be running the business anymore.
Yeah, that's bad.
I mean, a lot of tech people who are in the know
are just like, this is kind of a hopeless situation.
This dude, Tim Wu, who's a scholar and inventor of tech people who are like in the know are just like this is kind of a hopeless situation this
dude tim wu uh who's a scholar and inventor of the term net neutrality okay he might know something
he basically says that there's no way that we can resolve like facebook was built and has been
has existed to exploit our personal information to sell sell it to companies and to use it.
And even if they're going to be more careful about guarding it, it's never going to be
good for us.
It's never like they are a business built on selling you.
And he's saying that the only way to salvage this situation is for there to be a new social media, social network that is created like on the Wikipedia model or on a model where people pay like 99 cents a month.
And the basis is like privacy, but connecting.
Right.
We're not trying to watch your information.
Like from Facebook.
But, you know, none of the shit that is becoming just a huge huge problem oh look at you old
motherfucker burg can't get it together i mean i don't feel bad for him you know like it's crazy
because like on the call he was like i'm so bad for the third richest human being even when he
has to be like i'm the only guy who could do this like bruh you you actually created a fucking
monster and you don't know how to deal with it and you're still trying to act like it can be
like resolved pandora's box has been blown open.
Like we,
like he was saying purpose for existing.
And,
uh,
I think that kind of applies to all social media in general.
So,
um,
you know,
anytime you see one of these companies start to,
uh,
IPO or talk about,
you know,
what their value is,
they're talking about how they're going to turn a profit using advertising.
And so, I don't know, it could go in a bunch of different directions, but if it is to address
the problems that we're talking about, we would have to see just a complete sea change
where social media is nothing like it is today. Yeah, because Mark, or I'm sorry, I said
his name wrong, because Motherfuckerberg
doesn't have all that money because everybody
was mad poking each other
and that's how the fucking dollars came in.
No, he was packaging off all this information.
He was selling you. Yeah, he was selling us out.
Yep. Shouts out to all my Winkle
friends.
Oh yeah, you've always been Team Winklevoss.
Team Winklevoss. Yeah, I'm waiting for Team Winklevoss. Team Winklevoss.
Yeah, I'm waiting for the Winklevosses
to figure out I'm their triplet.
Oh yeah.
I'm the third Winklevoss.
And they'll break you off with some cryptocurrency, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Me and my twin boys.
Triplets.
And I wanted to go out on a story.
So Barbie apparently decided to be a little
more woke and
create some real life
female historical figures
who you can
cram into a hot pink convertible full of
genital-less friends
and they
released it on
International Women's Day
and people are pointing out that so they released Amelia Earhart, Catherine Day, and people are pointing out that,
so they released Amelia Earhart,
Katherine Johnson, and Frida Kahlo,
and Frida's unibrow is barely visible.
Wait, really?
Yeah, they were like, well, let's pluck this thing.
They're like, we'll give her thick eyebrows.
And also light eyes, too.
Why are you trying to Euro her up?
It's bullshit. Yeah, up it's bullshit yeah and
it's also weird for there to be a barbie version of like a socialist like a yeah someone capitalist
corporate fucking around with trotsky icon yeah version of yeah they should they should just
create a trotsky yeah right her ken should be trotsky yeah because she did have an affair with
him uh but now she's the face
of commodified feminism.
Wait, did she really?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
I would write the hell
out of that fanfic.
Well, here we go.
Teeny little thing.
Uh-oh.
All right, well,
give me a day.
Put Santa University
to the side.
Also, Santa University
was a Twitter handle
that was available
and I had to abstain.
Well, that's good.
It's better for your brand.
I mean, they'll need it for the feature film.
I would probably get it.
Create a new email so you can sit on that because once that takes off, you're going to want that.
Because otherwise I will and then I'll be like, hey, Jamie is five grand if you want to.
I hope that our friendship ends over the same.
Over me finding out right now that Santa University is available and then exploiting that.
Yes.
But yeah, Frida Kahlo.
out right now that Santa University is available and then exploiting that.
But yeah, Frida Kahlo, it's weird because the Mattel was saying like, oh, well, we talked with her family and are like the Frida Kahlo Corp based in Panama and was saying like,
oh, well, we have the support of the Kahlo family.
And it turns out that's not quite the case.
But hey, got to, you know, got to got to sell some more dollies.
Jamie, you were playing with a giant Barbie on Instagram this morning.
Thank you so much for bringing it up. I do a one-woman show where a my size Barbie that I bought off Craigslist
from a very sad looking dad. Oh my gosh. Wait, hold on. No, we have to know about this now. Okay.
I just knew I was going to need a my size Barbie at some point. Right. And so I saw one on Craigslist
for like 20 bucks. Is that a good price price that's a good price for a used my
size barbie well because but the thing is nib new in box it wasn't new in box it was lightly used
like hemingway lightly used like who originally owned this right right but but the thing is they
don't make them as tall anymore so i had to find an older one because they're three feet tall and
the current ones are two and a half and i am performing
simulated sex on this doll in my show for upwards of an hour so i needed i needed three three foot
something on your level yeah it's mostly just i have the doll play my high school boyfriend and
then i lose my virginity to the doll for an hour so if you want to see pictures of me and uh barbie
with a with a little sausage attached to her. Those pictures are available and on the web.
Wait, so when you went to go buy this thing,
it was like just a sad dad being like,
I got a Barbie for sale and you showed up.
Was he just sighing the whole time?
He had me meet him in the parking lot of a Toys R Us,
which was a wild move.
It was in the valley.
I brought a friend.
The one on Sherman Way?
Yes.
Okay.
Shout out to the Sherman Way Toys R Us, RIP.
And so he had us meet him there and he just, I was like, what is this story?
The Barbie was also wearing a wedding dress that clearly was handmade.
Like it wasn't.
Whoa.
Yeah.
It was not the one that she came in.
It had this weird fabric.
I was like, what has this man had sex with this doll?
I pretty thoroughly cleaned the doll.
Wow.
I will say.
But I don't know.
I mean, it felt like a Hemingway thing,
like the baby shoes never worn.
My size Barbie for sale, never worn.
Never.
Never simulated sex.
Never kissed.
Right.
Never married.
Well, all right.
Jamie.
Yes. As always, it's been lovely having you here. Where can people find you? never married well alright Jamie yes as always
it's been lovely
having you here
where can people
find you
you can find me
on twitter.com
at
jamieloftishelp
now is that because
like
almost like
it's the help page
for you
or you're just
asking for help
it's a place where
you can give me
help
and I can give you
help if I have anything to give
which I don't.
But maybe someday if I
do, the meaning of the help will
change and it'll be like, Jamie Loftus is helpful.
Nice.
Miles, what about you? Sorry, what about me?
What about you? Just like, what about
you? Tell us about yourself.
What about Bob? Well,
you can find me on twitter and instagram
at miles of gray you can find me at jack underscore o'brien on twitter you can find us at daily
zeitgeist on twitter we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a
website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the articles that we used as sources for today's information.
Miles.
Yes.
What are we going to ride out on, man?
Oh, man.
Well, you know, because Ryan Zinke was just, I got triggered and I was thinking Japanese people.
I wanted to play this track by Can, the German band.
They're like krautrock.
They're just ahead of their time.
They had a Japanese lead singer. The story is very interesting
They needed a lead singer. They found this dude Suzuki busking in the streets and they're like, hey
Do you want to play in our band? He's like, okay
He only knew like three guitar chords and just improvised all his lyrics and then they started to make us pretty good music
So this song is called vitamin C by can check it out because this is a good entry point to the band Can for anybody who doesn't know.
When was the song recorded?
This shit was recorded in like 1970.
I know.
I could not believe that.
You were listening to it all day and I assumed it was contemporary.
It is not.
Like I like my jazz.
Contemporary.
Oh, wow.
Very smooth.
Contemporary.
Very smooth.
Yeah, it was released in 1972.
So that's crazy to think.
I mean, it's dope. Yeah, it's really good. Cool. Well, we're released in 1972, so that's crazy to think. I mean, it's dope.
Yeah, it's really good.
Cool.
Well, we're going to ride out on that.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
We'll talk to you guys then.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye. The family cash, a beautiful rose Stay at the corner, she is living in an auto-tune
Hey you!
You're losing, you're losing, you're losing, you're losing your fantasy
Hey you
You're losing, you're losing, you're losing, you're losing your fantasy
Your fantasy See you next week. She is stepping on a quick stand. Her beautiful flaws stay at the corner.
She is living in an attitude.
Hey you!
You're losing, you're losing, you're losing, you're losing your privacy
Hey you!
You're losing, you're losing, you're losing, you're losing your privacy
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