The Daily Zeitgeist - Robert Mueller’s Report, Who Run The World (Netflix) 4.19.19
Episode Date: April 19, 2019In episode 374, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Alyssa Sabo to discuss why Beyoncé went to Netflix, a LOT about the heavily-redacted Mueller report, Flint getting a glimmer of hope, AMI selling... the National Enquirer, and more!FOOTNOTES:1. Netflix Got Beyoncé’s Homecoming by Paying So Much Money2. READ: The Mueller Report, With Redactions3. Flint Receives $77 Million to Fund New Water Projects4. The National Enquirer is being sold for $100 million to James Cohen, CEO of Hudson News5. Usher - I Don't Know Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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That's not with the birds of...
Californication.
Californication.
Yeah.
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And I was like, yo, what was that?
That.
Oh, yeah, don't get me on the John Daly.
The John Daly Peppermint.
The Peppermint.
Ah, so good.
Anyways, nobody knows what we're talking about.
But we are thrilled to have in our third seat, first-time guest, hilarious comedian, Alyssa Sabo.
Hello.
Welcome.
Hi, Alyssa.
I feel right at home here.
I love the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
You do?
Really?
No.
Oh, hell yeah.
You're not a peppermint?
No, but I do like that one song.
And after I parallel park successfully, I always play it.
The one where it's like,
Hey, listen, what else?
It's just like a good one.
You just have that queued up.
Always.
Excuse me, guys.
That spot opened.
Hold on.
Let me get this ready real quick in case I nail it.
Okay.
No, someone just got the spot.
All right, then.
That's why I'm always late.
Yeah.
And missing parking spots.
Kiedis' lyrics really stepped it up a notch in the nonsense realm.
Oh, yeah.
After a while, it just started being sounds.
He was all energy anyway.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's all we came for.
Energy and shirtlessness.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Alyssa, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today.
Obviously, we're talking about Beyonce.
Yeah.
Because some people in our office actually saw the documentary.
Neither of us.
I'm keeping it holy for my holiday on 420 gonna light some candles light
some L's and some candelas for Santa Beyonce uh-huh and we're gonna talk about how her show
ended up on Netflix we're gonna talk about the Mueller Mueller report the Mueller what's that
that came out apparently that came out, apparently.
It's like this novel, I guess.
400-something pages.
That's what everybody was talking about.
It's like, lame liberal people Harry Potter
release day today.
Everyone's just fucking blowing through
this Mueller report.
And the Washington Post
has given us some key findings.
It's pretty interesting.
It's not super revealing.
There's no bombshells that are unexpected.
There are plenty of bombshells that we already knew about.
So we're going to talk about all that shit for a little while.
Then we're going to talk about Flint finally getting a glimmer of hope.
And AMI selling the National Enquirer and maybe some Netflix numbers?
Netflix is kind of,
they're like,
we don't give a fuck anymore.
We're going to start publishing our numbers.
So now we have some insight.
Give all the numbers out.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like selectively.
Yeah, that's true.
But hey, whatever.
I mean, the numbers they give out
are impressive in terms of-
They always are.
Netflix is really out here in the zeitgeist,
apparently.
But first, Alyssa, we'd like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are
as a human being?
Good.
I asked that with a lot of conviction this time.
That was very different. That's not usable for me.
She's a first-time guest.
I know. You're treating this like NPR, though.
Yeah, that revealing about me as a human being and now i feel like
my answer is really dumb i'm gonna say helga pataki who's like a character from hey arnold
yeah i'm just always looking up pics mainly just like i like to look up like old 90s shows
and then try to like make memes based on like stills.
I will tell you this, Helga Space, the first autocomplete is Helga Pataki.
Perfect.
Yeah.
She's great.
She is an icon.
She really is.
Oh, yeah.
When it comes to Helgas.
Wasn't she the one who I called him football head?
Yeah.
Who called him football head?
That was Helga.
Well, Helga is just such a like complex character.
Oh, really?
And like if you really dig into it
like her mom was an alcoholic
her dad was just like
abusive
wait really
yes
her mom was an alcoholic
like straight up
straight up
she was like
I'm gonna have another smoothie
like that's how her mom talked
and we're just supposed to
like watch that
it was just smoothies
that she had a Jamba Juice problem
she was an alcoholic she was very like Helga was neglected some smoothies? That she had a Jamba Juice problem? It was an alcoholic.
She was very, like Helga was neglected.
And that's why like.
She was acting out.
Lately, I've just been on a Helga Pataki kick.
All right.
Because.
So you stay in Helga.
I stay in Helga.
Okay.
And she was kind of the main antagonist slash anti-villain.
Yeah.
And she was in love.
HeyArnold.fandom.wiki is telling me.
Yeah, yeah.
I love.
HeyArnold.fandom.wiki is telling me. Yeah, yeah. I love you. HeyArnold.fandom.wiki.
Yes.
Yeah, honestly, my references are pretty insane.
But no, Helga was in love with Arnold.
And so she just like, but she didn't know how to express that.
Right, because she grew up looking at a very twisted version and depiction of love in her own home.
Of course.
So she was naturally just acting that out in her real life.
And completely unaware of the subconscious effect of the trauma she was experiencing in her own household i mean i really do connect with this
character yeah but also completely on point because his head was shaped was a football
so she's like saying the thing we were all thinking like wait that dude's head is a football
so what she was tactless right she had a good eye though that's right that's right motherfucker had
a football head good eye good mind for metaphor uh she's right. Motherfucker had a football head. Good eye, good mind for metaphor.
She's probably going places when you think about it.
She's like a poet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is something you think is overrated?
I think sarcasm.
I mean, I don't know if people are as into it anymore as they were.
Are people still into it?
Are they?
But if they are, stop.
Because it's just like, it's not funny.
You're just being like mean but
you're trying to be funny i don't like sarcasm and i don't get it in what way like in people
performing stand-up and people just interacting thinking they're funny and people yeah okay in
general interactions people like oh i can't even think of a thing they're saying. You sounded like the grape stomping lady. Like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, I can't, oh, I can't.
I can't breathe.
Okay.
No, but like, you know what I mean.
Give me a recent example.
What's something that happened recently where you're like, that's not it.
Okay.
You sound like you're being sarcastic.
Okay, Miles.
I'll come up with a recent example.
Okay, I was going to say sarcasm, but then I was also going to,
like my other answer to what's overrated is nihilism.
Okay.
Wow.
Wow, you're going big.
But stick with sarcasm.
I think that's a good one because I do think,
like that was a big deal like for Generation X.
I only spoke sarcastically from 1990 to 19,
fuck it, to 2001.
After 9-11, I knocked it off.
And 9-11 really took the sarcasm out of your...
Yeah, I was like, this ain't it anymore.
We got bigger problems.
Right, right.
Now, full earnesty.
Oh, yes.
Up and down.
Yes, I've noticed that.
Earnest goes to prison.
I guess with sarcasm, it's mainly people that...
It's not necessarily with comedians with sarcasm it's mainly people that, it's not necessarily
with like comedians
using sarcasm.
It's more just like
regular folks
who are like,
you know what I mean,
like trying to be funny.
And I just like hate that.
Bartenders don't need it.
Yeah, we don't need it.
And I'm trying to think
of like an example.
I need an example.
Yeah, I know.
Oh, this is one
where like this happens,
servers do this a lot.
And look, I get it.
You can do whatever the fuck you got to do.
You got to get through your day.
Yeah.
But there'll be times where I'll say like, do you mind if I could get some cracked black
pepper for this thing?
And they go, no.
Yeah.
And you're like, what?
And they're like, no, be right back.
I'm just kidding.
And I'm like, yo, that was jarring for a second because I was like, are you a fucking asshole?
Yes.
I mind miles.
Yes.
I'm an asshole.
It would ruin my day yeah oh god no you
can't have that right no you can't actually uh sure i think it's all it's all in the delivery
but throughout the app i might have a real life like example okay if it comes to me i'll be like
oh it came to me cool cool i think it's more like in uh like transactions
anything dealing with money i don't need sarcasm if i'm a customer right you know like or the other
one i'll eat everything on the plate oh you really hated the meal huh right yeah yeah yeah yeah
that's a good one because then i'm supposed to be like what do you want me to say to that
right no i liked it and act like i don't get it. Yeah, just correct them. Or just play along.
I think earnestly correcting people's sarcasm is a good way of going forward.
Just earnestly.
No, I did actually really like it.
That's why I ate all of the food.
Oh, no, was it not clear?
Moving forward.
The food that was on the plate has actually entered my digestive system.
Wait, what did you think happened to all the food that was on the plate?
Just really follow through.
No, I was being, it was a joke.
Anyway, I got a lot of tables, man.
What is something you think is underrated?
Soup.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
This comes through sometimes.
Yeah, this does come through sometimes.
Yeah.
Wow.
Go on.
Your 60 seconds starts now.
I think that soup is one of the greatest inventions of all time.
55 seconds.
Because it's so delicious.
Not only is it nourishing, but it like warms your soul.
And it has like, you can get, you know, like vegetable soup,
you can get chicken soup, you can get noodles in there.
It's got every food group is in there.
And it's like, it's just everything.
And you don't have to worry about like eating like,
oh, here's my mashed potatoes. Here's my broccoli. And it's just everything and you don't have to worry about eating like, oh here's my mashed potatoes,
here's my broccoli. It's just like
one scoop in your mouth, boom.
Everything's mixed together. You like casseroles?
Yes. Big casserole head.
You like everything mixed for you.
You like a big slop plate.
I like it all mixed up. That's like Super Producer
Nick Stumpf likes a big bowl
of just something he's
it's ill-defined and can just be
forked into his mouth.
But even like soup is just such a
I always like recommend like when I
used to be going on a lot of online dates
like I'll be like how about we get soup? Like over Skype?
Online dates yeah.
I go on Skype dates and I'm like
let's Skype and eat soup. And they're like what soup
do you have? What can are you opening?
Now you like a well executed soup that you get at a restaurant and not a canned soup?
I'll do either.
You like canned soup?
Yeah.
Okay.
Top three soups.
Go.
Chicken tortilla, chicken noodle, vegetable, potato.
Vegetable, potato.
I don't think you've ever had soup.
Hold on.
Let me check with the judges really quick.
Judges.
No, no, no.
Oh, I had soup.
Vegetable potato.
Oh, I had soup.
Oh, I had soup.
Oh, you don't even know.
Oh, you wouldn't believe.
Oh, you should see my...
Ah, damn.
I have a whole other account on IG.
It got deactivated for so much soup content.
This is like too much.
What is a myth?
What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Okay.
This is tough, you know?
But I think a lot of people say geniuses are messy.
And I would have to debunk that because I am not a genius and I am messy.
The logic holds up.
That's a quick debunk.
You know, we don't really need to get into it
but I think that people
just say that
because they're like
oh yeah
like I'm messy
but like
that's because I'm smart
because I'm a genius
no you're not
just get your shit together
they're like
you're just really good
at excuses
yeah yeah
I think it's completely
unrelated
yeah
I also think
maybe geniuses
are a little bit more
likely to be assholes
because they can get away with it.
And so it's the same thing as like, you know, why rich people are famous people are assholes is because they can be.
Or like if you're hot.
Right.
Yeah.
Hot people are probably messy.
Yeah.
But like at the same time.
Watch out for a hot rich genius.
It's better to not be messy.
Right.
Yeah.
And you're talking about messy like just like talking shit about people constantly.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Just like a messy bitch. Yeah. Just so're talking about messy, like just like talking shit about people constantly, right?
Yes.
Yeah, just being a messy bitch.
Just being a messy bitch. Right, yeah, yeah.
Lipstick all over, hair a mess.
And being like, I don't know if you've heard.
Shirt on tongue.
Like Gerald thinks he's the father.
He's not.
Yeah.
Anyway, but I don't know.
Just ask the dude who works at her shift
at Dick's Sporting Goods
because he's giving her that D.
That sounds interesting.
Yeah.
Wait, why don't you think you're a genius?
And also, important thing after many TED Talks I've watched, it's better to say we have a genius.
A genius.
That's what it used to be, right?
And then it slowly became more egocentric where we began to identify as the genius versus being visited by a genius yeah and
having a genius yeah visited by a genius or you know it comes to you you know what i mean
versus putting yourself the pressure on yourself creatively to be like i'm all right here where is
it right just hold yourself up let the shit flow yeah which is how geniuses think about their work
or tend to think about their work is they're like God is speaking through me or like the work
is speaking through me.
I got to get the signal
clear as day
as Andre 3000 would say.
Totally.
I mean,
maybe I am a genius.
Hell yeah.
No, no.
I knew you guys
were going to say
that that's so nice of you
but like I'm very self-deprecating.
I know.
But you're funny.
I like your tweets.
Oh, thank you.
I think there's something
interesting there.
Thank you.
Don't sell yourself short.
You might be a genius.
You might have a genius. I got therapy on Monday. My therapist canceled this Monday. Oh, great. All messy people. I think there's something interesting there. Thank you. Don't sell yourself short. You might be a genius. You might have a genius.
I go to therapy on Monday.
My therapist canceled this Monday.
Oh, great.
All messy people.
I'll take the money.
We can turn the mics off and we can go right in.
And then you're going to have to hear all my shortcomings too, though.
I love it.
But being neat is probably just generally better than being messy, I would say.
Yeah, just be neat.
I know.
You know, keep things in order.
I mean, don't if you can't be, but I just wish I was.
I'm organized confusion mess
oh yeah you should man yeah yeah people think they're like oh i bet miles and jack are so cool
yo you see our desks man uh tonight you see my go like. And I was like killing roaches with my shoe on the desk.
I'm like, get back in here.
Yeah.
But we know where everything is on that desk.
Yeah, I know where everything is.
Including the roaches.
I know where they are.
And everything's where it's actually supposed to be because then I know where it is.
Okay?
Yeah.
And Zeitgang, send in whatever excuses, rationalizations you've made for being messy like that one,
the time-honored one. I know it looks a mess, butizations you've made for being messy. Like that one, the time honored one.
I know it looks a mess, but I know where everything is.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's like, really, Subtext?
I'm too fucking lazy to clean this shit up.
Because also, I'm not bothered by it, so it doesn't matter to me.
Sorry.
Yeah.
And I mean, here's the thing, though.
I'm not saying you got to be like Marie Kondo clean.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I'm just saying.
She has a type of genius yeah
that's too much that's too much clean yeah yeah even my mom who's japanese was like relax right
uh it was you know just keep your stuff just keep everything because you never know you never know
somebody might need it totally and and that could that thing might be worth something later on yeah
are the rationalizations that would always come to mind.
All right, let's talk about Beyonce.
She released her documentary a couple days back on Netflix,
already a hit.
People are regularly sobbing as they react to it on social media.
Lacey Mosley, she was sobbing.
Yeah.
Sophie, Superdude Sophie, sobbing. Sophie, Superdude
Sophie, sobbing. Yeah.
Apparently it's what I hoped it would be, which is
just like an execution, a
really great execution of a concert film.
It's not like the story
of the making of the concert. It's just like
Well, it's a little bit of everything, but yeah, but a good
emphasis on the show because that was really what the
whole spectacle was. That's the thing I
wished I had been there for and they seemed to be trying to bring you what the experience i mean i know you're working
hard on that time machine man i am it may it may work out yeah but yeah i mean i thought oh man i'm
i'm really excited because i i'm just gonna blow my sound system out with this thing uh because
i'm also a marching band nerd so like hearing all the drumline shit, I'm like, oh, here we go.
Yeah.
Rocking the tenors and everything in this.
But yeah, the thing about that documentary was like
when you kind of look at Beyonce's body of work
for things that have aired on TV or cable or whatever,
it's always been HBO, baby.
You know what I mean?
2013, there was Life is But a Dream.
That was all HBO.
Lemonade, 2016, HBO.
So I felt like naturally, when it was was first announced my first thing was like wait why not hbo that's weird
and then of course we find out it's because netflix as we know i think what they had like a
18 million 18 billion dollar what was their content budget for this like 15 billion dollars
they're using their time-honored strategy
of just blowing people out with their
offer of being just exponentially
larger. I was recently
watching, to get prepared for this,
I've been going through, and there's a thing
on YouTube about
Destiny's Child. So I'm
prepping for it. I was watching that.
They could have put it on YouTube. It's really
bad quality because it's like a VHS thing.
I heard YouTube came in
with a strong $15 offer.
And they were like,
but we'll split the CPMs with you.
We'll get PewDiePie to cross promote
and T-Series.
Right.
It'll live on Vivo.
But yeah,
I mean,
I think like,
again,
Netflix andbo declined to
comment when people were like asking about specifics but a lot of people who are familiar
were like yeah there were discussions with hbo then netflix came in and something happened and
people are safely assuming that that was because of you know beyonce is about her money right and
she she followed the trail there uh and super producer nick stump uh who you
guys can't hear but ah his voice in our ear amazing he posits this theory yeah so his theory
is that apparently uh he watched the documentary last night wept like a baby he said uh uh he said
that uh she was actually rehearsing the show itself for eight months, and there were like three sound stages and just an insane amount of work and probably budget went into the show in the first place.
So his theory is that she kind of had to go with the highest bidder because she maybe had a deal in the first place, and that's why she was able to put such a show on for the people of Coachella.
I'm sure at some point, too, that's part of the fee that she negotiates with the festival, too.
She's like, you want a show?
Right.
You want me in the show?
Yeah.
Well, I will go in the lab for eight months with 300 people and I will give you a show.
But that is going to cost $9 million or whatever the hell it was.
Anyway, I think either way, yes, that makes sense because show is itself is like nothing coachella has ever seen yeah um but another
thing that nick is still crying yeah you'd think that he would have gotten over it yeah by now but
that computer keyboard is ruined yeah it's like crazy like it's coachella already happened this
year but nobody knows what's going on. We're still thinking about last year.
Two years ago, right?
Yeah, two years ago.
No, no, no, it was last year.
Yeah, it was last year.
Last year.
We're still talking and tweeting about that,
which is so cool to me.
Also, I love that she released it
around the same time as Coachella.
She's like, you know,
I know that Coachella's happening,
but let's not forget what happened last year.
Right.
Like, we don't.
We're never going to forget.
Well, it's cool.
They are treating it like a historical moment because they still have the setup that you can just walk by and look at.
Like, man, that's where it all happened.
That's where it happened.
That's where it went down.
Wait, they do?
Yeah.
You can go look at the set this year at Coachella.
It's just like this.
The Beyonce set?
Yeah, those stairs.
Oh, shit.
I didn't know.
It's iconic. At Coachella, yeah. I didn't know we were up at Coachella.
Why didn't you post that on your stories?
You've posted everything else from you at Coachella this weekend.
I know.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Because I actually have a short film that I'm editing right now that features me kind
of putting together a little choreographed number.
Asking people who everyone is at all the performances, who's this?
What's ASAP?
What?
All right.
I would know who ASAP.
You'd know, yeah.
But no, again, just to go back to Netflix,
their model has been,
they point to a lot of the other deals
that Netflix has been behind.
So they've been snagging up all kinds of projects
for top dollar.
The Springsteen on Broadway thing They've been snagging up all kinds of projects for top dollar.
The Springsteen on Broadway thing went for reportedly more than $20 million.
Wow.
The stand-up comedy specials by Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle.
The Chris Rock one, $40 million deal.
And that was just one?
I think so.
The Dave Chappelle was a few.
It was like three, right?
Yeah, three shows.
That one was $60 million.
Jesus Christ.
So, I mean, that's, again, we're always like,
why are you guys are always running in the red?
Right.
But I guess they'll figure out how to- They're doing the Amazon thing, man.
Just spend all the money.
Race to the bottom, which is the next top of the next thing.
Right.
Just put everybody out of business except Disney.
Yeah.
It's going to be Netflix and Disney in the end.
Oh, no.
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And whoo, what a page turner, that Mueller report.
I haven't read a single word of it.
Yeah, you just read the cover, and then you said you read the whole thing.
Yeah, but the cover is, you know, the important stuff.
No, I'm just-
Yeah, the Mueller report by Robert S. Mueller.
I mean, that tells you everything you need to know.
But I've been basically getting other people's takes on what is inside the report.
I'm not super surprised by anything in here.
I mean, the Washington Post summarized their main takeaways or the key findings as Trump, when told of appointment of special counsel Mueller, said, this is the end of my presidency.
A little bit more was said.
He also said, I'm fucked.
This is the end.
This is terrible. This is the end this is terrible
this is the end of my presidency this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me that's a quote
yes those are those that's all quotes from somebody who was in the meeting uh substantial
evidence supports comey over trump in account of flynn meeting that's something that kind of
keeps coming back is that it seems like anytime it was like Trump's word versus Comey,
Trump's word versus the media, Mueller's report seems to side with the people who aren't Trump
in basically all cases. Yeah. I mean, I think if we take it sort of grain by grain, right,
how the day unfolded, William Barr came out first saying, oh, y'all get the Mueller report,
first saying, oh, y'all get the Mueller report, but on CDs.
What the fuck?
Who the fuck has CD drives anymore?
Which caused a scramble of congressional staffers to try and locate a PC that had a working CD-ROM drive.
The last open Radio Shack?
Yeah, seriously.
Oh my God.
They're like trying to put it in their car stereo and they're like, I don't know.
So that was sort of the first funny part, which I don't know if that was intentional or not.
I mean, I feel like there are such more.
There are many more efficient ways to distribute a document than putting it on a CD-ROM. But hey, maybe that's just the world William Barr is from.
And that's all his compact Presario computer would do.
So then he had that press conference, which was by far the most disgusting fuckery fest ever.
It was the Coachella fuckery right there, the main stage, the headliner.
William Barr comes out and basically subverts his own role as being the attorney general,
which is supposed to be an independent law enforcement official in the government.
And basically just comes out and being like Trump's defense lawyer.
Yeah.
And defending everything and saying like, look, you know, he was under a lot of pressure
and this is like unprecedented and he may have acted out, but that wasn't his intent.
That's why we're not like really, it doesn't feel like obstruction.
It was very, a true distortion of what is actually in the report because he also goes
on to say things like the White House fully cooperated in good faith with this entire investigation oh that's false yeah i mean that's like demonstrably false like given
the main conclusions of the of the report like muller is like yeah we couldn't get the president
to like tell us anything or sit down for an interview the only reason we're releasing this
now is because we knew we didn't want to like an extended court battle over a subpoena,
which is a little weird.
I find that a little weird just because we've always talked about how there was this standard
for how quickly this investigation should have been over and passed special counsel investigations.
And this was insanely quick for the amount of actual indictments that were happening. Yeah. Well, there's actual, you know, because so much shit was just happening quick for the amount of like actual indictments that were happening.
Yeah.
Well, there's actual, you know, because so much shit was just happening out in the open.
Right.
Like, whoa, I just did my investigation on Twitter.
Right.
Came to these conclusions.
Right.
You know, and going on to the cooperation thing.
I mean, we saw over and over wacky skunk drunk Rudy Giuliani on TV being like, he's not going to testify.
It's going to be a perjury trap.
They're saying like that's not why they're going to cooperate.
But when you're trying to investigate something like obstruction of justice,
you kind of need to interview the subject or the target of the investigation
because how else can you establish their intent to know where they're headed
with this?
But when they're sort of leaning back and like, oh, no, we're good.
We'll just do some written answers that the lawyers will come up with,
not Donald Trump. There were many levels where they could have cooperated and they did it.
And I think the biggest thing, you know, in the report that Robert Mueller states up front
definitively saying that because of Department of Justice guidelines, you know, you can't indict a
sitting president. That's just sort of the belief in the DOJ. So I'm working through a narrow framework from there. And I
can't necessarily say, oh, this is chargeable or these things are happening because of the sheer
fact that I can't even come to that conclusion legally or by the guidelines. So a lot of that
was used for William Barr, especially to begin to walk this line of like, well, they didn't find these things guilty on all these things without betraying the fact that the DOJ is also really unable to bring those charges or in a position where they can't really resolve those issues.
Right.
And then Robert Mueller goes on to say that he doesn't really buy that argument either.
Right.
But so this is the president is immune.
he doesn't really buy that argument either.
Right.
But so this is the president is immune.
Right.
Because I think if he was going to keep it, you know, 100000 percent with everybody, he would say if I was dealing with if this was a private citizen, I would be like, oh, this
is obstruction of justice or straight up.
Yeah.
I mean, the quote is on obstruction of justice.
The quote is, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the
president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice,
we would so state based on the facts and the applicable legal standards,
we were unable to reach that judgment.
So basically he's kicking it to Congress and there,
I mean,
he's really putting like suggesting that Congress like do a thorough investigation and yeah and also he goes
on to the sort of cooperation thing that william barr was trumpeting like oh they were they were
so they were so cooperative yeah um was that he even in the report says that officials in the
administration and other people he interviewed that were close to trump repeatedly lied to him
and congress and it was materially affecting the investigation.
So that's not cooperating either. And there was just so many moments. I guess the deal is,
everybody from watching the president's behavior knew something was up. And the report sort of
confirms a lot of the things that had been reported, just sort of without his sort of
official determination about whether or not it violated a very specific criminal statute. But there's also a lot where we're learning a lot.
I mean, we've been learning a lot about William Barr too, and his role of going from,
hey, this guy might be an upstanding dude. He's like OG or whatever too.
That summary was weird to now like, oh, you're in the pocket're in the pocket right now. Yeah. That's you.
And not in the improv pocket where you're like just in the moment.
Dude, no, not even like, not even if you're a rhythm section, dude, just in that pocket,
just grooving so hard.
He's in the pocket of the president.
Yes.
President's big pocket.
One of the worst, yeah.
One of the worst pockets to be in, like top five worst pockets to be in.
This report reminds me of like something like in debate class
in high school i used to like make up stats i feel like there's something about it that's like
a high school like i was just like oh i'm gonna make this stat up like it's just bars report of
the report yeah yeah well and the other thing too that is also described you know in the the
william barr letter you know said that oh you know ro oh, Robert Mueller sort of left it up to the
attorney general to determine whether or not these obstruction charges should be brought.
And that completely contradicts what Mueller wrote, because he was just saying, no, I'm not
making that determination because of DOJ guidelines. But William Barr completely distorted that and
said, yeah, I mean, he left it up to me and therefore I'm saying not guilty. So, you know, let's party it up. Free Cosby. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's, we've talked before. There's
a lot of smoke. Would the report find fire? And the report basically reaches the conclusion that
yes, a lot of smoke. They described the smoke in great detail. And then they say they never found
evidence of fire within this like very specific parameters that they define at the outset, which is a criminal level conspiracy.
But then they also describe the fact that the president was actively obstructing their investigation into whether there was fire.
they suggest that that has some bearing on the investigation's inability to find fire because they include the shit out of all the details of him obstructing justice like his uh telling
mcgann his attorney to fire muller yeah and tell him literally using the words muller has to go
yeah and saying yo go to rod rosenstein and tell this man Mueller has to go. And Don McGahn, because he's like one of the actual, I guess an actual lawyer,
he freaked out.
He called his own personal lawyer when that was told to him because he was like,
he realized, oh, I'm being asked to do something that I believe is criminal.
So I'm contacting my lawyer.
After that, in the reported states, he went to the White House,
packed his shit up and told Reince Priebus, I can't do this crazy shit.
He's asked me to do some crazy shit and didn't specifically tell him, which suggests that he didn't want to actually fully describe the criminal behavior just to keep Priebus insulated from knowing or whatever.
But I'm sure everybody knew.
But then he was talked into staying eventually.
Right. eventually right and a lot of the other things too when you talk about obstruction right there's a lot to say that you know the muller report says there were numerous times where people could have
obstructed justice but the the aides and officials around trump that were asked to do them never
followed through with his his requests right never actually amounted to the thing that would have
been full-blown obstruction of justice and so he was basically being saved by people who just
weren't willing to fully light that fire. Yeah, this reminded me of that fire festival documentary, because when
we were talking about that, we were like, the reason that this was such a disaster is because
it was a guy with a really bad idea who had very competent, like incredibly motivated people
working for him, who were constantly executing everything that he
told them to do. And so that kept happening until the very end when it was like, ah, shit,
we can't pull it off. But it looked like we might be able to because we kept executing on this
terrible idea. This was the opposite of that. This was an argument for just not doing what
your boss tells you to because it ends up saving the country right
because so many of these things that he tells people to do would have caused a fucking
constitutional crisis well we already are though right but it would have been i mean yeah but if
he had fired more like yeah uh it would have been so much worse for him had mcgann done what he told
him to do uh and it would have been worse for the country.
Yeah. And again, back to even the press conference that Barr had, and it was so,
they were so cynical, right? Because they knew they're like, let's do the press conference.
I'm going to say all this hot shit up at the podium. Rod Rosenstein, you go pretend to be
a checked out mannequin, and we'll talk up there, and I'll say all the things-
He looks like a dummy. Like a- Ventriloquist dummy. Yeah, ventriloquist dummy. Have people made that point before? pretend to be a checked out mannequin and we'll talk up there and i'll say all the things uh
dummy like a ventriloquist dummy yeah ventriloquist dummy have people made that point before no but i
think you should make that a t-shirt okay um so uh when he goes up there you know he he did all
the trump lines right no obstruction basically said no collusion and in this instance he was
very intentional uh by conflating collusion, you know, a coordinated activity for a common goal with conspiracy, which is a very narrowly defined crime.
And yes, they were not able to find anything that was chargeable for a conspiracy charge.
coordinating towards a common goal, I think is completely absurd because you have all kinds of information like Paul Manafort briefing, Constantine Kalimnik, who the FBI has and other
intelligence sources have identified as somebody who has very close ties to Russian intelligence,
if not in Russian intelligence himself. Okay. So that's someone interacting with someone in
intelligence, giving this person things like messaging that they're
going to be using in the campaign, the state of the campaign, internal polling data, and
importantly, battleground states that they identified that they felt were going to be
good pickups with just sort of just general electoral college math.
Because when you're doing, when you think about, right, the popular vote was lost.
Right.
But the sheer amount of like 80,000 votes spread over three states that deliver the
electoral college votes.
And these are the states that people like Paul Manafort are telling Russian intelligence,
like, we may want to keep an eye on that.
Oh, interesting.
And there's also numerous studies talking about the strategy of Russian intelligence
to go after what they call Clinton defector voters, people who were becoming
disillusioned with what they were hearing about Hillary Clinton or just the Democratic Party
that were possible toss-ups to be swayed into voting for a third party candidate or maybe Trump
himself, but people that you could drive a wedge in between. They were very specific about those
people. So it's like coordination, but not criminal conspiracy, essentially? Well, because they don't
have something like, hi, I'm Paul Manafort from the trump campaign you are russian intelligence i would like for you to do this on
our behalf so we can win the election and then when we win we will give you this and this is
our agreement it's just not you know they this is the thing where we look that we are kind of
operating in an era where we don't have the laws to actually prevent these kinds of things because everything was going in this what a lot of pundits were calling lawful but awful behavior right and
because it's lawful or technically you know there's no they're not violating specific laws
they're they're operating in this murky gray area and doing shit like this right i mean this raises
the question like the thing that i was mentioning earlier, the fact that they just kind of halfway, like at this early point relative to other special counsel investigations, they just cut it short and we're like, I don't know. But not saying specifically Congress should determine this.
It feels almost like Mueller and possibly Barr were thinking about the constitutional crisis,
that this would be terrible for the country type thing, and just let the facts speak for themselves,
let the people decide almost
like that there's an election coming up why don't we just like put all the facts out there and let
people decide and maybe muller wasn't taking into account that you know bar would be out here being
like well the fake news media was driving trump crazy and that's why he was behaving this way. I don't know. It seems like Mueller had like there's something to his decision to do this that is like, why is it so incomplete?
Why didn't you follow through on some of the stuff where like past special counsel investigations did follow through like all the way to getting detailed descriptions of the president getting
a blow job like why did they just kind of cut it off at this point um is is he thinking congress
is going to just be up to the task i think yeah that combined with the fact as he stated it he
hit he hit a wall because so many people were lying to him too, which is like,
he's like,
I literally can't even get useful information because these people are lying
to my face and I know they're lying,
but I can't compel,
I can't put them like under oath.
Yeah.
Which is,
and again,
those are suggested.
Oh,
cause Congress can.
Right.
And then it's like,
oh,
can you pull up with that same energy when you're under oath?
Yeah.
And then we'll see,
but they might not be able to.
So they are trying to get Mueller to testify.
Yeah. Because they want to hear from him. Cause they're going going to say like so are you saying they'll probably i mean if they were if it was me right someone who has no business being up
there talking to robert muller i'd be like my man let's pretend the president is a regular
private citizen with what you saw would you charge this person with obstruction of justice is the
only thing that's in the way is the fact that he's a sitting president and then you'd be like uh yes right
then i'd be like right well now let's figure something out but again what would you say
then i would be like yo my man uh it's like the epic scene you want to smoke a backwood
oh my gosh get him in there it would be called legally blunt
and i'm just fucking high as shit on the hill.
But yeah, I mean, there's so, again, another interesting thing, right?
Are there so many moments where we're talking about this gray area, right?
Where like Paul Manafort even telling Rick Gates, hey, don't fucking say anything.
Just stay strong.
Keep your head low.
Don't cooperate.
Because I heard from the administration, they're going to take care of us.
They're going to take care of us. They're going to take care of us.
And then Rick Gates even asked, so did they mention a pardon?
No, I didn't mention a pardon.
I just said, look, we're good.
They're going to take care of us, which is fine because we're great.
On wax, you don't see a transaction happening, but it's that mob shit.
It's like saying, it's like, yeah, man, I hope you don't get some concrete cinder block shoes and fall off the pier.
Wait, so are you saying you're going to kill somebody?
No, I'm just saying I hope nobody comes to your house to size your feet for some cement shoes.
Because that would be uncomfortable?
I don't know.
Okay.
Is death uncomfortable?
I mean, I don't know.
Wait, wait, wait.
Do you have orthotic insoles?
There's a lot of technicality shit.
Like Super Producer Nick was also pointing out
that if Guccifer had released the hacked material himself.
Or herself.
Or herself.
It's not gender Guccifer to my help.
That would have been one thing,
but because it was like a secondhand WikiLeaks
that was doing it, then it wasn't collusion or it wasn't a criminal conspiracy.
So I think to that is sort of like, okay, let's put a middle person in front of the illegal Russian intelligence hacking operation of Guccifer.
Right.
Use WikiLeaks as like the smoke screen because then as like like a journalist, you can you can publish information you receive.
It doesn't matter how it's obtained.
Right. So if it's just Guccifer, Guccifer, like hacking material and then releasing it and Trump was coordinating with him, it would have been a criminal conspiracy or could have been a criminal conspiracy or it could have been a criminal conspiracy but because it was wiki leaks who there's all this shit about whether they are should be considered journalists and like
freedom of press protections uh you know you have this second party so therefore it's like
you know everybody was willing to print this stuff there's a second party so it's not a crime
well what there's in the report right because trump himself knew that there were
further leaks coming before other people knew and that's in the report where there was a trip to like
la guardia airport or something and he's on the phone uh and like it's like redacted redacted
after the call trump said that there would be like further leaks coming up and like you know
trying to plan you know strategy around that yeah so but i guess if they're coordinating with
wiki leaks then you can be like i don't know it's like wiki leaks right but if you're not if you're
coordinating with if you got gucifer and your mentions and your dms yeah i mean i just wish
gucifer was just out here had the instagram account just said link in bio check it out i got
the hacked emails um yeah so i mean there's a lot of stuff to chase down here and to continue that's going to continue developing.
We might be doing an episode, a special episode of Behind the Bastards with Robert Evans to kind of look into this stuff and William Barr in the not too distant future.
So stay tuned for that.
But I guess, you know, with all this information coming, we got the report finally, you know, whatever.
There's huge chunks that are fully blacked out.
The things that are clear, we'll have to see what Congress does with this.
What Robert Mueller says if he comes to testify.
What if they can get William Barr to answer some more questions.
And really that we still just don't know where we are with all of this.
We just don't know.
I mean, what we do know
is that there was some terrible shit going on.
What we don't know is how the fuck
are they going to handle this?
I mean, just real quick,
I just want to read specific descriptions
from the report.
Manafort told Gates it was stupid to plead
because he had spoken to the president's
personal attorney and they were going
to take care of us.
Despite telling aides he did not like Manafort,
Trump repeatedly voiced sympathy for Manafort
and talked about the fact that they did not want him to flip.
There's evidence Trump's actions had potential
to influence Manafort's decision whether to cooperate.
Evidence concerning the president's conduct toward Manafort
indicates that the president intended to encourage Manafort
to not cooperate with the government.
The president's comments also could have been intended
to continue sending a message to Manafort
that a pardon was possible.
That is a description of obstruction of justice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But again, we're dealing, like Robert Mueller says up top,
look, I'm fucking handcuffed here by guidelines.
There are bylaws and things that say a sitting president can't be indicted.
So I'm working already being like, OK, so I can only like just blow the whistle so loud that maybe somebody will pick it up.
Right.
Do we know, Miles?
I know there are certain things we just don't know.
Is one of those things whether when Mueller gets in front of Congress, will he be just unleashed or is he still going to be like this demure special counsel?
He's going to be measured.
And I'm sure.
I mean, he can't reveal things that were redacted or anything, obviously.
But I'm sure they can ask what his intention was, like by saying, explain this sentence to me.
Right.
And then parse through that.
I'm sure he can actually explain that.
Right.
Because he's just saying, well, this is what I found. sentence to me right and then parse through that i'm sure he can actually explain that right because
he's just saying well this is what i found he's and then just like he says in the thing but i
can't come to conclusions on the criminality of it because of the existing guidelines i'm wanting
to be unhinged yeah i know like just make a mess um so you know again i think it just confirms
everything that we saw out in the open when we're like, this looks like obstruction.
But really, I think I hope more people in the press are really looking at William Barr because this man is completely just undermining the rule of law in this country with the fucking the antics he's pulling.
It kind of has been for a while.
Yeah. And like, you know, please don't start running chyrons and headlines with quotes of what William Barr said.
They need to say William Barr has been fucking around this whole time.
That's a good headline.
Yeah, and Mueller does specifically seem to kick the obstruction question to Congress.
So, I mean, yeah, this is going to keep going.
I'm pretty satisfied as somebody who's been following this story for a long time.
In some detail, I'm pretty satisfied with what I's been following this story for a long time in some detail.
I'm pretty satisfied with what I've heard the Mueller report says up to this point.
But again, I'll have to read it myself because otherwise we just can't know.
And we just don't know.
At this stage.
At this early stage.
We still don't know.
There's so many blacked out things.
I mean, oh, the juiciness under there.
All right.
We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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And let's talk about Flint, guys.
They finally have the glimmer of hope. Yeah.
I mean, you know, while everybody who studied abroad in Europe once
was able to cobble together a billion euros for Notre Dame Cathedral.
Many people were like,
hey, what about Flint,
Michigan, people's drinking water?
Because the president was like, we're going to help out.
We're going to help
try and rebuild it.
Meanwhile, you have crumbling infrastructure
in this city. Oh, Notre Dame, he
said that? Yeah, that the U.S. would provide assistance
to help the rebuilding effort. Oh, Notre Dame, he said that? Yeah, that the U.S. would provide assistance to help the rebuilding effort.
And everyone was like,
Flint still needs their drinking water!
Anyway, so we found out earlier this week
the city of Flint received the $77 million of funding
from the existing or the promised $120 million loan,
which came from the Michigan Department
of Environmental Quality.
They finally got it and they can start putting it to good use.
Now, it's not a loan, I guess, in the traditional sense, because there's no interest on it.
It doesn't have to be repaid.
So it's just like, I guess, however they're doing that for their books.
Right.
But essentially now this thing is going to, now they can actually put a lot of this money
to good use for short and long-term projects.
That seems like what they're going to be putting in.
Use various projects like water meter replacements for homes, installation of water quality monitoring panels, construction of a new chemical feed building, and completion of a pipeline that will connect to a secondary water source.
water source. But this isn't the end of the story for Flint because they still need about $300 million to fully recover over the next few years to really address this whole thing.
And they're completing this fast start pipe program where they're trying to replace lead
and galvanize steel water lines. And that could take about till 2020, but there's still a lot
of work to be done. I mean, at least there's money coming through.
But again, if you want to put the Mueller report aside and just look at how the president
is treating the people of this country, Flint is a perfect example.
Because this man is, you know, crowing for money for a border wall or like an additional
$40 million in funding to build more tent cities for detained immigrants.
So pick the myriad of reasons why this president is wholly unfit for the office,
aside from his inability to follow the law.
He also has no compassion and is willing to just, you know, wear that on his sleeve.
All right.
Let's check back in with our good friends over at American Media Inc.
Harvey Peckar, David Peckar.
Yeah.
I mean, Nick, prepare to drop the bomb, okay?
Because they had to sell.
What?
Yeah, they had to sell.
And I want to pat ourselves on the back.
Drop the bomb.
Yes.
Maybe we did that.
You know, most likely we did.
We played a small part.
We played a small part.
I like to say we did.
Bringing this media Goliath down.
Yeah.
part we played this i like to say bring it bringing this media goliath down uh yeah so they sold the national enquire for 100 million dollars to james cohen who is the ceo of hudson news you
know from every fucking airport yeah aren't they in every motherfucking airport yeah basically nearly
except for like maybe burbank they have like that weird nbc store um but yeah i think it's like that weird NBC store. But yeah, I think it's like that. They get the globe and another sister publication.
So they're fully,
you know,
Trump's garbage tabloid.
One of his,
you know,
three headed Hydra is going down.
I don't know if that's a good metaphor.
But anyway,
I think a lot of it has to do with a few,
many different things.
First,
the shit was on its way down from a financial perspective.
They went from selling 516 copies per issue in 2014 to just 218,000 this last December.
So it's been on its way down.
And on top of it, there's a hedge fund manager who actually controls AMI or at least who decided to sell it.
And that basically happened after it came out of – all the stories came out about how David Pecker, the head of AMI, was using all these catch and kill stories.
And also the legal exposure from the Stormy Daniels stuff to like, you know, we can't have an asset like this.
So let's just cut our losses.
Let's get a hundred million dollars and get the fuck out.
Well, that's the only magazine I read.
The National Enquirer.
Yeah.
Where you got all your news.
Where you got all my news.
I mean, we bought a lot of those over the years.
I mean, we did our lot of those over the years.
I mean, we did our part.
I know.
We were a big part of the sales of that magazine.
That's my favorite thing to read.
Do you read it?
No.
Oh, you should.
Was that sarcasm?
Oh, my gosh.
Was I sarcastic?
I just practiced it.
I'm sorry.
Practice what you preach.
Oh, man.
So, you know, pour one out for those shitty, shitty liars.
Let's talk about Netflix again real quick, because they are now releasing numbers.
And they're telling us how many households are watching their various original programs.
So Bird Box, they announced a while back, was watched by 80 million households.
I still haven't seen that.
Me neither.
Did I see it? I fell asleep.
You fell asleep?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Because it was just like watching people with their eyes closed.
Right.
I was like, I gotta close my eyes.
You were like, I should close my eyes as well.
Yeah, it was hard.
So when you see like black and white films, does your vision suddenly go monochrome?
Yeah, I just see everything black and white.
My eye's not working. You're an empath. Yeah, I just, I'm fucking working. My eye's not working.
You're an empath.
Yeah,
I'm really,
just really sensitive.
Yeah.
So they've,
they've had some hits this past month.
Uh,
Umbrella Academy was watched by 45 million households,
uh,
which you watched it,
Miles.
Yeah.
And you're a fan.
Yeah.
I mean,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
it seemed like there were holes in the plot in it, but everyone's telling me, like, you got to watch the whole thing play out.
Because I'm always like, it felt like they were really dismissive of these two characters who were trying to solve the problem.
Right.
And then just let, like, the terrible thing go down.
I don't want to spoil it for anybody.
Okay.
But, I mean, I kept watching.
Because, like, anything that, like, keeps me, like, gives you a little taste of some kind of ending i'm a fucking sucker for shows like that is it based on a comic book by the creator of my chemical
romance yeah yeah comic book yeah it's a graphic novel graphic novel yeah that's the i didn't even
know that part and everyone's like it's the dude from my chemical romance Well, now I'm going to watch it. Are you a big MCR head? No. Oh, damn.
Sarcasm again.
No, I am.
I am.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, I am.
I am.
I know.
Fall Out Boy.
Okay.
All those guys.
I mean, I did not know there was a difference between those.
They occupy the same image in my head.
Really?
Just now.
Which one is Pete Wenson?
I don't know.
My Chemical Romance?
I think so.
He had the spiky hair.
Oh, no, Fall Out Boy.
He's Fall Out Boy.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
And wasn't he with Ashley Simpson before?
Yeah, that's the only reason I know.
And now she's with Evan Ross.
Before, wasn't she with Ryan Cabrera at one point?
Oh, she was definitely with Ryan Cabrera.
See?
Yeah.
That's how you gotta exercise your mind, Jack.
You gotta go back in time and go through all Ashley Simpson's boo things.
Yeah.
My memory palace for Ashley Simpson's boyfriends really needs work.
Let me walk you through mine.
I'm entering the front door to the left.
I see Ryan Cabrera with an acoustic guitar to the right.
I see Pete Wentz up the stairs.
Let me go up the stairs.
Yes, there's Evan Ross.
Memory palaces are very effective.
Yeah, apparently. A lot of card counters, I think, use that. Yeah. up the stairs oh let me go up the stairs yes there's Evan Ross memory palaces are very effective yeah
apparently
a lot of card counters
I think use that
yeah
or that style of
memory recall
yeah
anyway
The Highwaymen
starring Kevin Costner
and Woody Harrelson
was improbably
watched by
40 million households
in its first month
is that the
it's like Bonnie and Clyde
but
oh the cops
who killed Bonnie and Clyde the story behind the people who shot them yeah i'm good on that one right is that where we're at as a
as a country that like back in the 60s we were like we want to see the badass outlaws who like
have sex with each other and like are on this romantic like death wish quest and now we're
like we want to see the fucking cops
solve the crime.
It's like our true crime obsession.
That's like an improv game.
I know.
You do like an improv game where you're like,
this is the deleted scene of this movie,
or this character.
Right, where we follow the cops.
Yeah, we follow the cops.
Like, nobody cares.
Tell it from their perspective.
Yeah.
It's like, when are we going to see Lord of the Rings
from Sauron's perspective?
Right.
Triple Frontier, which sounds like a movie that, you know, like a fake action movie from a Simpsons episode.
It sounds like an eating challenge at Cracker Barrel.
Also that.
Do the Triple Frontier.
I will do that challenge.
Yeah, right?
That was viewed by 52 million households.
What?
I've never even heard of this
yeah that was the one with ben affleck where it looks to me like this video game ghost recon
wildlands uh but it's just a bunch of what like ex special forces dudes who are just like man we
should rob the fucking drug dealers because we got bills so i mean just in terms of, like, obviously this does not equate in terms of dollars,
but in terms of, like, the amount of mind share that these movies are occupying, like, 52 million.
If a movie sold 52 million tickets, it would be, like, the second biggest movie of the year.
Right.
It would be $520 million, like, in.
Where do you get $10 movie tickets, Mr. O'Brien, in this city?
I watch all my movies in Missouri.
Oh, yeah.
It's actually worth it when you do the math with the flight hotel.
Get a ticket because the ticket's only $10.
It actually works out.
Because here it's like fucking $38 to see a movie.
Yeah.
Fire Festival documentary, the greatestest Party That Never Happened,
$20 million.
Did Hulu put out numbers for their fire documentary?
I don't think so.
I don't think Hulu puts out numbers.
I don't, like, this is,
streamers don't usually put out numbers like this.
Yeah, I know.
Netflix is just putting up,
putting their numbers where their mouth is.
I guess. Forget i ever said that
okay uh let's talk about our planet finally uh the nature documentary uh that we were talking
about when it the trailer first dropped and they were like we got attenborough bitches
that was viewed by 25 million households in its first month of release have you watched that i
have watched a couple episodes.
Holy shit.
The first one kind of fucked me up because it was a little bit like,
this is the state of things.
This is where we're at.
And I'm like,
can we just get to the cool birds and shit?
More pretty, less thinky.
I don't want to think of a stranded ass polar bear,
like how fucked the earth is.
It made me want to be a vegetarian
oh did it?
I wanted to eat every animal I saw
I was like get in my belly
you're like googling like where to buy
sandal meat
fat bastard ref
yeah let's replay
oh my god
I said get in my belly
that was good I heard it. I love it.
We are high-fiving each other relentlessly.
I'm going to watch Austin Powers after this.
But it has one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a nature documentary.
It's like this mating ritual where five male birds line up on a branch and do this dance
where it's like a coordinated dance and it's all to get the lead male bird to be able to have sex with the woman
if she's impressed enough.
But it's not like she's not impressed
by one of them doing a dance.
Their whole, it's like a boy band.
So it's like NSYNC backing up Justin Timberlake
so he can get with Britney Spears.
Yeah, exactly.
But as if that was NSYNC's only motivation.
It's just really-
Hey, Justin needs to fuck, guys.
Five, six, seven.
It's really interesting that nature would evolve to be that selfless, to just be like,
yo, we need to get this guy.
Hence the name Wingman.
Right.
Exactly.
Oh, is that where that came from?
Yeah.
Yes.
I just made that up for this debate.
But that's good.
It works so well.
I went to the Alyssa Sabo School of Debate.
According to this study I made up for the purposes of winning this argument.
It worked on me.
And I'm going to believe that.
And I'm going to start spreading that.
Yeah.
Please do.
Netflix is about to take up a lot of my time this weekend.
Because, you know, 420, I got Beyonce.
I'm going to watch so much Our Planet.
Yeah. Because I saved a couple of them yeah because i want to see the high seas yet no deep seas no deep seas
oh my gosh the high seas i think would be about pirates yeah yeah i think it would be about the
discontinued flavor i don't know if you should get high when you watch the deep seas you might
get scared i was it was like a horror movie when i did you see that thing
about you know blobfish yeah like they look all fucked up because they're depressurized when you
when we bring them up to the surface but like below they look completely different and not
like ted cruz yes i was really surprised because there was a photo where they're like yo we're
actually doing blobfish pretty dirty man right like they're out of their element that's why they
look like that yeah they look much better but if you took us all the way to the bottom of the ocean where they live and like-
I would look hot too.
We would look like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Total Recall when his head starts to explode.
Oh my God.
It's so hot.
Our face would just-
It's so hot.
Actually, I guess it would be the reverse of that.
And they'd be like smash mammal or something.
No, no.
I feel like I'm using the logic of, well, if blobfish looks ugly up here, then we all
look ugly up here and we need to be our best selves in the deepest part of the ocean.
In the deepest seas.
Yeah.
No, that's probably true.
You should follow through on that theory.
Yeah.
No breathing tank.
Just put a fucking one ton weight on my leg and just take me down with a photo shoot or
just a waterproof camera.
I'll take the selfies myself.
This is another fact that I stand by.
Alyssa's walking directly out of this office onto a boat and heading for the Marianas.
For a photo shoot.
Just like my agent said, I need new headshots.
Alyssa, it has been such a pleasure having you.
What a great first episode.
Thank you so much.
On a very politics heavy day.
Yeah, seriously.
I know.
Where can people find you?
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Alyssa underscore Sabo.
Hey, team underscore.
Yeah.
You have an underscore?
I do.
Yeah.
It's cool.
It is so cool, isn't it?
It's very like, you know, like I'm classy, but not too classy.
Right.
I don't know.
Says like, you know, I'm utilitarian, but not like too much.
Anyways, is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Can I plug like my friend's Twitter?
No.
No.
You have to hate the person. You have to hate the person.
You have to hate the person.
Yeah.
And actually you have to say fuck them before you even say their name.
And this isn't sarcasm.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
Literally my friend, Lindsay McDowell, I hate her so much.
Oh, Lindsay.
Don't follow her.
No, but she's just so fun.
And a lot of her tweets, it's funny because i'm not going to really be able
to read it because she uses like gifs and like well it sounds wow you say gifs yeah is that what
it is it's technically what the creator did but i'm old school internet and to me that would always
sounded like gif but is it i used to say gifs and then this past week i started saying gifs
did something happen well i just was thinking about GIF peanut butter.
And then your mind just went, you know what? Changing it.
So you didn't even hear that the person who created it was like,
I say it as GIF.
You just saw peanut butter and you just connected that
and you're like, I'm switching.
Alright, swag lord.
You can follow her at
Lindsay, L-I-N-Z-E-E, two underscores.
It's pretty wild.
Whoa.
Wait a second now.
She's great.
Did she out underscore us?
Yeah, she did.
This is bullshit.
You're not going to read any of her tweets.
You're just going to tell us.
Oh, no, no.
I will.
I'm sorry.
I have to be honest.
Growing up with TV as my only guide into what adult life would be like I thought I'd know way more people with amnesia
by now
so many amnesia people
I know
that and quicksand
I feel like amnesia people are our quicksand
because it doesn't actually exist
but it's such a convenient
like movie
or TV trope that it just
constantly is happening and if you grew
up watching telenovelas you probably thought every motherfucker on earth had him or a soap opera
every soap opera is the same way yeah just like jane the virgin right now you know what i mean
but he's getting his memory back oh i don't know is like a big fear of mine yeah i'm just like i
might have it don't worry you wouldn't know i don't know yeah that's true you would just be
that's the comfort of it. That's true.
You just become very curious about everything.
Yeah, you just go, who the fuck are you?
Right.
Maybe it's actually very stressful.
Yeah.
I actually am starting to use my son as a memory tool because he's got a really good memory,
like where I left shit and stuff.
Oh.
Wow. How old is he?
He's two.
Wow.
Shows you where his brain's at.
He's like a two-year-old.
He has so many fewer memories than like-
In there.
Wow, that's smart.
Yeah, he just picks everything up.
I hope you feel good when he can't read.
But he'll know where you left your wallet five years ago.
Yeah, he's helped me win so many arguments.
Ramsey, run that tape back.
Come back.
Court stenographer, please.
That's incredible.
Miles, where can people find you?
Find me on Instagram and that other one, Twitter, at Miles of Gray.
A tweet I like is actually from Alyssa.
It's the one that you have pinned to the top.
It's a long one.
Yeah, but I love it.
From Alyssa Sabo, at Alyssa underscore Sabo.
It says, guy I dated, not in the industry.
You should try commercials.
My mom and dad.
You should try being on Netflix.
My agent.
You should try new headshots.
God.
I love you, Alyssa.
Everyone.
God isn't real.
Me gets bangs.
I'm about to.
I'm about to get bangs.
You're going to get bangs.
No.
Again with the sarcasm. No, that's a fake bangs no again with the sarcasm no that's a fake out
yeah that's fine
that's a fake out
not sarcasm
you're more like
it's like a fun fake out
okay I'll buy that
you're all about to pump fakes
head fakes
yeah
a couple tweets I like
Louis Vertel tweeted
devastated to learn
the Mueller report
doesn't pass the Bechdel test
and Catherine Van Arendonk.
I hope that's a real name.
Just once I'd like to see a woman throw up on TV and not be pregnant.
Never happens.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com,
where we post our episodes and our footnotes,
where we link off the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as the song we ran out on.
Miles, what's that?
I'm just going to be weird with this one,
because we've just been talking about The Unknown so much.
I just want to do an Usher song that I feel like needs to get more love.
It's called I Don't Know
by Usher featuring P. Diddy.
Because that's how I'm feeling right now.
We just don't know.
We just don't know. And I don't know what you came to do
girl. What you came to do tonight.
But I'm ready to party.
Oh. And it's Friday so just
take that in your weekend.
Take that. Take that. Take that.
Alright guys. Have a great weekend. We'll be back on Monday
or maybe before if something crazy happens but probably on monday uh so we'll talk to you guys
bye all right come on I'm ready, baby. It'll be fine The club will be full again
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