The Daily Zeitgeist - Roger Stone Is Totally Screwed, Kim Kardashian Runs These Dudes 1.28.19

Episode Date: January 28, 2019

In episode 317, Jack and and special guest host Laci Mosley are joined by comedian Nick Turner to discuss The Game's new song about Kim Kardashian, Roger Stone's indictment, how the United States help...ed screw over Venezuela, Facebook connecting WhatsApp, FB Messaging, and Instagram, and more! Also super producer Anna Hossnieh joins for a quick second to explain how Saudi Arabia helped inadvertently hurt Venezuela's economy as well.FOOTNOTES:1. #PressPlay: #TheGamepreviews some new music!! #KimKardashian#KanyeWest 2. Stone Indictment 0124193. Roger Stone’s story just changed on Russia — again4. 5 staggering details from the Roger Stone indictment5. Chad Johnson Says He Saw the FBI Arrest Trump Aide Roger Stone at 6 a.m.6. Trump Announces Deal to Reopen Government, in Surprise Retreat From Wall7. Here's why you can't blame socialism for Venezuela's crisis8. In Saudi Arabia’s quest to debilitate the Iranian economy, they destroyed Venezuela9. Is socialism to blame for Venezuela's never-ending crisis?10. The United States’ Hand in Undermining Democracy in Venezuela11. Facebook to integrate WhatsApp, Instagram and Messenger12. WATCH: Portishead - Mourning Air Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 67, episode 1 of The Daily Zeitgeist, or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. January 28th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka, as long as we got O'Brien, we got the zeit spinning right in our gang. Alan Thicke, courtesy of Kathleen at Bathcath. And I'm thrilled to be joined by our special guest co-host, Lacey Mosley! Hey!
Starting point is 00:02:43 So happy to be here. It's Lacey Mosley, aka to be here It's Lacey Mosley AKA Scam Goddess AKA Just keep breathing And thieving And scamming And stealing
Starting point is 00:02:52 Whoa Damn Put that in your Heart and smoke it Miles That was beautiful Oh Miles is out sick Rest up Miles
Starting point is 00:03:04 I know man He has a rich people sickness today. Like gout? Yeah, he has gout. He has exhaustion. He's taking a wing of Cedarside. That's actually his joke. By his, we are, of course, talking about the hilarious comedian who we have in our third seat, Mr. Nick Turner.
Starting point is 00:03:20 AOC 2028. 2028? 2028. 2028? 2028. Just keep looking for McConnell at the Senate offices. That was beautiful. Beautiful! Thank you. Did not know the pipes I was in the same room with.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Get used to it. I only sing now. That was off the dome too. Okay, dome. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it showed. But I think the fact that I attempted it got me a lot of points. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It was good. I'm here for it. A for effort and execution. Yes. Nick, the last time we had you on, I... The numbers spiked. Oh, no, sorry. Yeah, the numbers spiked through the roof.
Starting point is 00:04:02 No, I connect my phone to my car speaker. And sometimes when I do that, Pandora popped up. And it started playing stand-up. And this happens all the time. For some reason, Pandora has a deal with my car company to make their app start anytime it gets plugged in. And I was like, damn, who is this? This is actually very funny. my car company to like make their app start anytime it gets plugged in. And, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:04:26 damn, who is this? This is actually very funny. And I never had that thought and I opened it and it was you. And this was after? Yeah, this was right after. And you didn't recognize my voice.
Starting point is 00:04:36 No, I didn't recognize your voice. Well, that's very nice. Shout out to Pandora. Yeah, man. But you are a very,
Starting point is 00:04:43 very funny standup comedian. Oh man, that is great. I don't even need anything else out of this podcast. Peace, man. But you are a very, very funny stand-up comedian. Oh, man. That is great. I don't even need anything else out of this podcast. Peace, y'all. All right. And Nick has left. All right, Nick, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:04:56 First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. The Game has a new album coming out in which he brags about some interactions he had with Kim Kardashian. We're just going to talk about those lyrics and just the general phenomenon of people bragging about interactions they've had with Kim Kardashian and whether she is the only person like that, whether she is our Marilyn Monroe. We're going to talk about Roger Stone redefining totally fucked. We are going to talk about how Fox News is dealing with that fact, the shutdown being temporarily shut down. We're going to talk about the background of Venezuela's state of disrepair and America's role therein. And we're going to talk
Starting point is 00:05:46 about Facebook's plan to, you know, fuck up our world by linking Instagram, WhatsApp, and, you know, it's a pet project of Mark Zuckerberg. So, you know, it's got to be good for us. But first, Nick, what is something from your search history that is revealing who you are? All right. It's mostly stuff about how to make money on podcasts. But then I was asking if cutting your own hair was a sign of mental illness. Cutting your own hair? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Okay. Because I've always thought that. And my dad started cutting his own hair. Oh, no. I'm not having it. So I was looking for something to send him to get him to stop. He's got money. How much is a haircut?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Right. Was he cutting it good? It's not fire, huh? He's not cutting it good. Is he using a mirror? He's not a stylist.. Is he using a mirror at least? He's not a stylist. Right. I mean, you know, it's just short hair, guys. You have curly hair.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Thank you. Is his hair curly too? No. Okay. No, I got my mom's do up here. Okay. It's wavy. It's, you know, it's thin.
Starting point is 00:06:58 He got waves, like the waves they Photoshop on people. He got waves in AirPods. Nick's dad has waves in AirPods, guys. He looks like Roger from Doug. Yo, your dad sounds like a zad. A zaddy. Yeah, no, he's sexy as hell, but he's got to stay that way by checking out a salon. And he's just at that stage where he's like, you know what I just realized?
Starting point is 00:07:23 This is an easy way to save money. stage where he's like you know what i just realized this is an easy way to save money or like what what is what yeah i guess you know it's annoying to go to a salon every time i go to a salon i'm like i wish there was a better way because you can't take out your phone and that's mostly it i don't know why it's still rude to look at your phone when you're at the salon i mean is it i think so i don't see anybody doing it i thought were going to say you can't take out your phone because you don't want your stylist all up in your phone. Oh, no. I have no secrets from my chrome.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Right. As long as we keep the chrome on. I'm not pulling up Safari in public, people. Maybe there's different men salon etiquette rules because I have my phone out all the time. Oh, yeah. I don't see it. Well, I almost always get my hair cut at Rudy's and you can see tons of other chairs while you get your hair cut.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And I'm just like, I am waiting for when the scales tip and people start pulling out their phones. And I am going to be the fourth person there to do it. So what do y'all have? An old-timey conversation? Old-timey. And you are at the whim. Because one lady there, it's the only lady I've ever asked to not cut my hair. Because I always go in, I'm like, who you got?
Starting point is 00:08:28 What? So you're not loyal? Oh, my God. This changed last year. Because I got the same lady twice. I never get the same person twice. I got the same lady twice. And she wanted to have conversations with me about how she put her mom in a home.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And the first one was on Mother's Day. And I'm just like, this is no good. And then I saw her, and it was like the same conversation the next time. So the third time I saw her, and I didn't like the haircut. So the third time I saw her, I just like, you know, like Jerry being offered a piece of apple pie. I just keep shaking my head silently. And she's like, you don't want me?
Starting point is 00:08:58 That's fine. So now I put people's names in my phone when I like them. And I say, do you have these three people or no? Or whoever. Loyalty to a hairstylist really comes in. I used to go to the same hairstylist who definitely was a criminal or was abating other criminal activity. I had to stop going when her other clients started
Starting point is 00:09:16 stealing from me. But I was really stuck with her. How did that happen? I really stuck with her. She was going to jail. I'm like, girl, I need my hair done. She's like, I'm in jail. I'm like, oh my god. Was this like an are your visiting hours this was at a salon in beverly hills wow why how did her other customers steal from you because like you know you would charge your phone and then like they would take your charger and leave their trash ready charger just like mild thefts where you'd be like wait a minute like you know what i mean yeah you know
Starting point is 00:09:45 and i do love a scam oh i thought that was my charger right i thought that was my handbag with your name and initials on it it was like people you know like oh she got fired from being a stripper so now she just do fraud and i'm like how do you get fired from being a stripper it's just you know what it's easier than you think lacy it's easier than you think i stayed with her though for a long time before i was like okay i, I can't get robbed anymore. Right. Yeah. But I would definitely, I am the type of person who would keep going back to the same person just because I kept getting that person because I felt too bad. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Oh, my girlfriend just got a terrible haircut. You know, she cried all day. Oh, no. So then, like, she went back to the salon to get a redone. Because if you hate it that much, they'll just redo it. But she got the same person. Hell no. And then she let them cut it again. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:37 That's just anything to avoid conflict. Can you imagine? Yes. Guys, y'all call me. This is my new service. This is my new service. This is my new service. I will be a personal. I want to.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I swear to God I'm giving her your number. I will be your representative. Like, no, I represent him. He ain't like this shit. He don't want you or your sad ass mama stories no more. I love it. Oh, no. Sad ass mama stories.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Oh, the balls to say that. And you just stand back in the mirror and every time she starts talking, you're just like, hold your finger up your lips and then do a throat slitting motion. Yeah, I don't want to know what's happening. You're going to pop up in the shadows and be like, get away from him. We talked about this show.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Nick, what is something you think is overrated? Oh, tidying up with Marie Kondo. Hot take. No, hot take. No, thanks. Every time I watch this show, and of course, you know, I watch it, just so I can tell people on Twitter how dumb they are, it's just like a mess.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Like, you go to somebody's room, and it's not crazy, because I love hoarders, too. Right. That's fun. Like that's when you need some, some like, some expert to get in there and fix it up.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Right. But it's just like you go in and they got like bags of clothes, like trash bags full of clothes in the room and like boxes piled up and like all you need
Starting point is 00:12:01 is someone to go in and say, clean up. Right. Clean all this obvious clutter up. Right. But there's nothing. You do not need to make a tree teepee, like a t-shirt teepee.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Right. I don't. There's no way in hell that any of the stuff she tells everyone to do is sustainable. You cannot make t-shirt teepees for the rest of your life. What is a t-shirt teepee? I haven't watched the show. You just have to fold it up. You fold it and then you put it on its side so it's like a little bit of a triangle.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Okay. Why do you do that? Because you're supposed to see all your clothes every time you open your drawer or every time you look in the closet. Nothing can be behind something else. And it's just not, it's not sustainable. No, that's wild. But one big part of the book that I have not seen in the TV show at all is getting rid of people.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Oh, yes. And that's like, Marie needs to come in the house and be like, don't fuck with him no more. Like yes, just like, just go in and kick out boyfriends. Right. That's really, I have a friend whose fiance got the book, and so she started doing everything,
Starting point is 00:13:08 got to the chapter about people, ended their engagement. Stop. Yes. Marie Kondo is out here breaking up homes? Yes. How exciting is that? That's lit.
Starting point is 00:13:18 That's not in the show. That's what Marie should be doing. Incredible. Like you show up and you think you're just going to get your room cleaned, and the next thing you know, like yo man with three boxes of tp t-shirts she needs that one segment where dan savage comes in and just says dump the motherfucker already right everybody and just starts kicking ass yeah that would be lit yeah that does sound like i mean her show producers
Starting point is 00:13:40 must be trying to get her to add the the people element to it because that is just reality TV, right? Doesn't she have an interpreter? Yeah, and that's like the most boring. The host doesn't speak English. And it's hard to get across your ideas. So then there's an interpreter, but it's just some friend of hers or an interpreter she travels with.
Starting point is 00:14:03 She has no personality. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a TV camera hosting a show. Her interpreter needs to be like Karamo from Queer Eye. Who can talk to someone like a human being and tell people what's up. And just something with some personality. Netflix,
Starting point is 00:14:20 get on it. Merge your shows. Ironically, what she needs is a messy bitch. Yeah. Oh, Jack messy bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Oh, Jack. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:29 What is something you think is underrated? Okay. I'm sticking with the Netflix theme. It's Instant Hotel. Okay. It's a competition reality show based around Airbnbs. And it's out of Australia, which is where all the good shows are coming from. And it's five teams, groups of two.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And they each run their own Airbnb in life. And so this competition is they all get together and then go around to each other's Airbnbs and spend a night. And then they rate them. And it gets real catty. So it's just their home that they're opening up to other people? Yes. And they're all fantastic. You know, because like these people, I've never been to an Airbnb
Starting point is 00:15:13 like the one any of these people put together. Okay, got it. Because some of these are like thousands of dollars a night. So I should just stay at a hotel. I mean, it's not, yeah, these aren't saving you money. Because I'm like, if I pay a thousand, somebody better be knocking on the door with the pillow and the sheets and you better stay here and wait on me. All the other teams come, so you need a place for eight people. So it's going to be pricey.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Okay, okay. So it's like a villa or something. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And then, so everybody rates everybody. But then, like, there's a winner. rates everybody but then like there's a winner and so like halfway through people realize oh we need to start rating very poorly everyone right and just like some teams like go for it and uh the gamesmanship so it turns into like say yes to the dress or what is it no four weddings
Starting point is 00:15:58 where all the women go to the weddings and then oh pick it apart they're like it was beautiful but my steak was overcooked so I gave it a one. Because you're rating each other is what you're saying, right? Yeah, that's good because I've been saying it's like House Hunters International meets Survivor.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, I was going to say Survivor where you take the person out who's best at the game because you're worried about them eventually beating you. Yes, like their place is too nice. So there's this weird shift because the season happens
Starting point is 00:16:24 where there's two groups. There's like five episodes with these one group of people and then another five episodes. But in the first one, they don't really get to that. They don't really get it. But in the second one, it happens real quick. It happens with a bunch of people. And it is nasty. And it is so fun.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And Instant Hotel, which is I guess what they call Airbnbs in Australia. Instant Hotels. But it's like the most fun show I've seen all year, and I can't recommend it highly enough. Instant hotels. Instant hotels, guys. Instant hotels. Know what I'm doing this weekend.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Opening my house up as an Airbnb. And turning off the TV. What is a myth? What's something people think is true? Okay, well, cutting your hair. I don't know. Can I just tell another uh sign of mental illness that i discovered yeah yeah just don't want to be i just want people to be on the lookout and like this thing it might seem fun and innocuous but uh it's dangerous okay and you brought up doug earlier yes um and doug you know wears the same thing every day yeah you open his closet and he's
Starting point is 00:17:27 got all the same outfits yeah and that's a sign of mental illness what he's wearing the same clothes all the time because i have a friend of mine will miles okay and uh look him up i thought i thought you weren't gonna this guy's nuts no he's wearing the same thing every day for this year it just started january 1 yeah but it it all it entails is like um a button-up dark blue uh shirt and then he can like change the the t-shirt and the same pants so it's the the dark blue shirt and the pants you're wearing a dark blue button-up right now by the way well yes, but he's doing it as a thing. I'm doing it because I own three shirts. Okay, there you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And so anyway, he was telling me that a friend of ours whose uncle used to work in television, he started wearing the same thing every day. And he did it like Doug, though, where he had all the outfits. Like Will's just washing. Oh, the same clothes. I all the outfits. Oh, wow. Like, Will's just washing. Oh, the same clothes. I don't know. That's tedious. It's so tedious.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But, you know, he's got the washer in his place. But our friend of ours, Uncle, that was like the first sign that people started getting nervous. And then, like, his script started getting weird. And then he sent in, like, a script to the network that he wrote that was just gibberish on every line right it was like a conversation characters would have but it was like and then after that he got committed oh no so yeah if you see your friends wearing the same clothes over and over talk to them now this is something that something that I've heard as a TED Talk style life hack. Take the decisions out of your morning and just do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yes, Steve Jobs did it. There's a bunch of tech millionaires. One of my favorite comedians, Jason Manzoukas, does it, apparently. Oh, he does. And I kind of have done it before just because i paid too much credence to ted talks wow you did it yeah i did it i mean i'm not wearing the thing today but if i ever have to like wear something somewhat nice i'll wear a white button-up with jeans oh i could never do that i can't be easily recognized from afar. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And I think it's like a, I wonder if it's just, yeah, you're a little too neurotic about little decisions. So you take one little decision out of your life, hoping that that will just simplify your life. But it doesn't necessarily. Yeah. It just allows you to be neurotic about other things. Yeah. You better really love that outfit.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. Yeah, that's true. And if you sweat a lot, I would not recommend a white button-up shirt, because you will burn through those things very quickly. All right, guys, let's talk about the game. He is back out here with a new album coming out. And at a listening party at the end of last week somebody noted that he has a lyric in there in which he uh rather graphically brags about uh having some manner of sexual
Starting point is 00:20:35 congress with someone who people suspect might be kim kardashian because he says kim kardashian he says her full name. Let's listen to it. I held Kim Kardashian by a throat, I made her swallow my kids until she choked, I should apologize, cause you ain't my folks, this for all the vice lords and folks. So, yeah, that's pretty graphic. There's no interpreting that one away.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And he also says, says and hey sorry to her husband who is my good friend but Lacey you brought up the fact that this is just wild that people are like this is such a claim to fame having had sex with Kim Kardashian this shit is so lame I mean it just really kind of turns, like, misogynistic bullshit on its head because men want women to feel shame because they had sex with you. Like, Kim Kardashian is richer than you, the game.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Okay? Like, Kim Kardashian is selling every gloss and concealer and cream out here, honey. And we're loving it. Like, it's weird to see all these men, you know, spend time trying to have a claim to fame from having sex with a woman. Like, it's the lamest shit ever. Like, I hit it first.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Ray J made a whole song. Ray J sat in a booth and made a whole song. Right. About Kim Kardashian and him hitting it first. I just think you look like a loser when you do stuff like this. I mean, isn't it just a compliment to her? It's just like anybody who can be connected to her on a hookup tree is like bragging about it. It's like, damn, we talked about this.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And I think the other woman in history that was like this was probably Marilyn Monroe. Yeah, they made a movie about a dude who spent two weeks or no, not two weeks. One week with Marilyn Monroe and homie had a movie. Yeah, yeah. Like that's goals. I want everybody to say that they spent time with me. I mean, it's so funny, too, because they probably had sex in, like, the eight months that the game was famous. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Right. So she was like, yeah, I fucked, like, a famous guy. Right. And that was cool for me. And, yeah, you haven't had anything like that since. Yeah. Yeah, it is probably more of a commentary on where he's at than anything. I literally remember one, the game song.
Starting point is 00:22:54 You've got a couple good ones. That one with 50 Cent. Yeah. He's like, I ain't going nowhere. Lord Jesus. I mean, I guess he didn't go anywhere. He didn't go up. Right. He didn't go up. didn't go up he didn't go up
Starting point is 00:23:06 still here guys newsflash you do want to go somewhere you don't want to just go nowhere the game lives in Burbank why does Kanye even have to think about this why has he even responded about this nobody cares
Starting point is 00:23:22 I don't know that he has but people are suspecting that this is not going to do great things for him about this why he's even responded about this nobody cares i don't know that he has but uh people are suspecting that this is not gonna do great things for him because of how he responded to the mere implication in drake lyrics that something was going on with him and kim kardashian i mean i think you gotta know who you're with okay and that goes for women and men if your man or your woman you know was out here in these streets you know street sweeping uh every wednesday and tuesday for you know no parking here you know no parking here uh but you can park for two hours you know what i mean like you gotta know they
Starting point is 00:23:57 they probably have you know a trail of people in their past and there's nothing wrong with that it doesn't lessen your value as a person but you certainly can't get surprised and upset if people want to talk about it they're lame for talking about it but you also can't be out here trying to beat everybody's ass who you know has sex with your wife yeah now it does seem like it's he's talking about it in excessive detail which yes look that's just what happens when you have sex right you choke you don't use those words maybe in the recounting to your friends yes Yes, about your friend's wife. Yeah, maybe not. But it happens.
Starting point is 00:24:28 You know, things get, people cough, things get swallowed. It is amazing that he remembers it in such vivid detail. You know he has not stopped thinking about that, clearly. I mean, shout out to Kim there. Sounds like you work with a great package. I mean, what, to be that person in life that gets to have sex with just like dozens and dozens of the hottest, coolest people, you know, in the country. That's real cool. I know.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah. No, she is a phenomenon. Yeah. But then at the same time, I think like just from seeing couples all over, I'm like every couple I know is having sex and they're not all hot and spicy and shit. But I assume they're having a similar experience. You know what I mean? This can't get that different. So, you know, guys, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:25:10 If you haven't had sex with Kim Kardashian, you're probably still having a good life. Yeah. Thank you. Nick, that was for you. Nick, you haven't? You haven't? I thought you were going to do some stand-up. No way, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I was choking. I couldn't even work up the words to talk to her. Oh, God. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered.
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Starting point is 00:28:47 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
Starting point is 00:29:18 This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Roger Stone, on Friday morning, had a truly rude awakening, as did his neighbor, Chad Ochocinco, who was one of the men on the street for news reporters. He was like, man, my neighbor got arrested by the FBI today. That's crazy. But yeah, so Roger Stone got raided by the FBI. They came in, guns drawn, or at least fully armed, and took him away. And he was,
Starting point is 00:30:06 you know, brought up on charges, seven charges in particular, including obstruction of justice, witness tampering, and lying to Congress. And there's some pretty juicy details in there. So on multiple occasions, the indictment says Stone told senior Trump campaign officials about materials possessed by WikiLeaks. They call it Organization One in the indictment. And the timing of future releases. On or about October 3rd, 2016, Stone wrote to a supporter involved with the Trump campaign, spoke to my friend in London last night. The payload is still coming. Very suggestively worded, but we'll move on. On or about October 4th, 2016, Stone told a
Starting point is 00:30:52 high-ranking Trump campaign official that the head of Organization One, WikiLeaks, had a, quote, serious security concern, but would release, quote, a load every week going forward. And Mueller also points to the fact that someone high up in the campaign, who people think is Bannon, was directed to reach out to Stone to find out more on WikiLeaks releases. And WikiLeaks has essentially been connected to Russia and the Russian hacking. Russia hacked these emails and they ended up being released by WikiLeaks. So there was some sort of transmittal going on behind the scenes there. And there's a paragraph that even suggests that Stone directed WikiLeaks to start putting out damaging info about Hillary Clinton's health and memory.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And well, look at that. They did. They did do that. That became a storyline even in the mainstream media. It started on the right, but then the mainstream media picked it up. And when he showed up in court, he said basically, hurry up and pardon me. But not in those words. He said, this is a witch hunt and I plead absolutely 100 percent not guilty. Some other details that I found pretty interesting was he was constantly talking to this one dude and telling him to lie to Congress and then saying that he had to be like the dude in The Godfather who lied to Congress because he was scared and under threat. And then once Stone started suspecting that individual number two was speaking to Mueller, he threatened to, quote, take his dog, like literally killed the guy's dog, like mafia stuff. And meanwhile, in the Fox News universe, none of this matters.
Starting point is 00:32:39 They say Stone won't roll. That was their headline after he said that he wasn't going to. I mean, essentially, they're saying won't roll over on the press. So like they're part of the mob in that. Yeah. Because also roll like. Yeah. Like Rolling Stone.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I get it. But also like won't roll over. Stone ain't no snitch. Yeah. He ain't no snitch. He's not a rat. That is exactly what it says. And then from earlier in the morning, Fox's headline was,
Starting point is 00:33:08 Mueller, Roger Stone fibbed about advising Team Trump on stolen Podesta emails. Fibbed. Like, fibbed. That's just... That's harsh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's really harsh. You can't put it more harshly than that but yeah it's pretty clear that things don't look good uh sarah sanders at the end of last
Starting point is 00:33:31 week came out and said well this has nothing to do with the president that's for sure oh it's like this is his campaign to get elected president motherfucker what are you talking about i suspect that ro that Roger will be a Rolling Stone. Yes. And the prison is where he'll be laying his hat at his home. I also thought it was very funny that Chad Ochocinco lives in the same neighborhood
Starting point is 00:33:55 as Roger Stone, and that begs the question, is Chad doing well, or is Roger doing bad? Right. I want to know. He already has a Nixon back tattoo, so, I mean. Wow, Ochocinco? No. I want to know. He already has a Nixon back tattoo. So, I mean. Wow. Ocho Cinco?
Starting point is 00:34:07 No. That would be amazing, though. You know, he bought, he must have bought a franchise or something that worked. Listen.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Ocho Cinco starred, it showed bright, but it was brief. Yes, it was very brief. Ocho Cinco must have one of those scooty bikes or something out here.
Starting point is 00:34:24 You know, whatever rappers are making their income off of. He got in early on the bird scooter. Right. This whole time we've been riding on Ocho Cincos. Didn't even know it. This is crazy that, one, Fox News has just become, like, are y'all even giving news out anymore? Or is this just, just like support of crime?
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's just always amazing to see how they're because they are immediately contorting themselves to get their head as far up their ass as possible and like keep their audience like in the same position. It's like we're all just going to acknowledge that this shit is happening and that Trump is doing crime and that there was collusion with Russia. And now Fox News's only job is to like, I guess, people, like the justice system? Yeah. So their line of defense is that because all of the charges are specifically about obstruction and witness tampering, things that totally innocent people always do, that they don't specifically talk about collusion or crimes that happened before the Mueller investigation.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And it's like, yeah, because they're building a case about what happened before the Mueller investigation. You know, at some point of the day, absolutely nothing matters to me as a very left liberal. The ins and outs are unimportant. You know, it's just like today they got one right that's all I need to do they got back tattoo
Starting point is 00:35:49 I mean if Fox doesn't stop playing like they're really starting to sound like rappers like I remember this kind of headline came out when Lil Kim refused to snitch and went to jail like these are very similar like I thought y'all didn't like black people yeah yeah he's not gonna roll
Starting point is 00:36:04 on the president. That's for sure. Yeah, they are basically the... That should become their... Instead of fair and balanced, it should just be snitches get stitches. CNN does the same things. They bury certain articles. Every time there's an article about how aliens are hypnotizing or drinking water,
Starting point is 00:36:23 CNN won't even write an article about it. They definitely have an anti-aliens or hypnotizing our drinking water, CNN won't even write an article about it. Yeah, they definitely have an anti-aliens are hypnotizing our drinking water. But Fox News will get in there. Yeah, that's true. And we know that's what's happening. Yeah. And we know that's true because the aliens told us through our drinking water and the
Starting point is 00:36:37 fillings in our teeth. Let's talk about the shutdown, which our fearless leader, the president, on Friday addressed the nation and announced that he had worked with Congress to get it suspended for three weeks. The government will reopen and the people who have not been paid for their past two paychecks will be paid very quickly. Or? Or as soon as possible, which is not, you did not want that, that qualification. Is that still on the table? Yeah, they're getting back pay for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I'm just so confused as to like, when is somebody going to make me like, you know, maps have legends. Like what is my decode for, you know, Trump's very elusive, vague ass terminology? Like, when can we quantify very quickly? Can we quantify as soon as possible? You know, I thought Spectrum Cable was fucked up with their hours.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Like, we don't come by your house from 9 a.m. to midnight. That's a very open window. But at least I know by 12 I'm going to have cable. Right. That's a very open window, but at least I know by 12 I'm going to have cable. Trump is like, you know, you're going to get it when it comes at that time. Right. And at that time, it will be there. And it will be a number that is close to what you are expecting. I was just waiting for him to be like, and look, I invested some of your money,
Starting point is 00:38:05 so I can't get it all to you right away, but I will get you an IOU, and you're going to get it back, and then some, probably. Is anyone a little disappointed that everyone's going to get all the money and that we didn't save any money? That we didn't save any money?
Starting point is 00:38:20 Maybe we shut the country down for a month and we didn't make anything? No. Well, I think it's the people who worked during the time. Well, we got interest on their money, maybe. Probably. We'll get that off the top. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Which, I mean. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's mostly what I'm worried about. Yeah. I'm worried, though. Yeah. Give me some of that.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I watched that whole press conference. Working class people's money. Right. I want my mailman's money. My mailman who walks around in the hot ass LA sun every day. I want his money. It's just me. I'm profiting off the government shutdown.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I mean, I watched the whole press conference. It's like wall or nah, wall or nah, nah, no wall, no wall. All right, bet. Like, what is this? He spent so much of the conference, first of all, defining terms, like catch and release. And he told us basically how to human traffic if we wanted to. Like he said, you got to tie them up.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You got to put tape on their mouth. You got to put them in the car. You got to drive them up to the border. He didn't necessarily say you got to do that. He said they do this happens. He said they do it, but this is how they do it. It was like, oh, Jay, if I did it, this is how I would have done it, but for traffickers. Yeah, he got very specific with, like,
Starting point is 00:39:33 they don't go through the border crossing. They go up to the border crossing. They make a right. They drive through the thing. They drive deep into the desert, and then they make another right or a left. And it's like, if they make another right, they're just going back to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Yeah, that's a circle. I'm not sure. I need a map in front of me. Right, exactly. Are you giving us directions so you're going to see the border and that's where you hang a right. You want to get up so they can see you turning. He did
Starting point is 00:40:04 end up making most of his speech about the wall but his speech that was specifically about the wall was a lot of backtracking and hedging where it was like we're gonna have it's gonna be a fence it's gonna be see-through he's still stuck on that see-through so you can see the drugs on the other side coming uh even though it can be cheaper even though he specifically said uh multiple times that it was going be cheaper. Even though he specifically said multiple times that it was going to be a wall, he also specifically said it was going to be a wall from sea to shining sea.
Starting point is 00:40:31 He specifically now says, I never said it was going to be a wall from sea to shining sea, which totally did, and that it's going to be a crazy futuristic wall with robocops and drones and all sorts of technology. Is there going to be a Voltron down there? Yes, there's going to be a Voltron. I mean, you got to give it to Trump because he really lets your imagination run wild.
Starting point is 00:40:52 You know what I mean? He lets his. Might as well. If you really stand for Trump and you believe in his bullshit, you could really envision this wall. I was looking back at some of his mentions of the wall during the campaign just to see what he actually was saying when he got people, when he got his base all excited about this. And he was talking about a 35 foot tall wall and they had like an image of it. And it was like Trump is this tiny little figure. And then they like showed what a 35 foot wall would be like. It's like a five-story building or something, or like a four-story building. It was crazy. And that doesn't sound like what he's going to make anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:29 No, it sounds like a fence. Yeah, it does sound like a fence. It's going to be the best fence, the most beautiful fence. Like being able to see through a fence is like an amazing feature. It's amazing. It's transparent. You can see through this. That's a chain-link fence, dude. Yo, Trump should be selling It's transparent. You can see through this. That's a chain link fence, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yo, Trump should be selling Cutco knives. I know. Because he's really just something that we've all seen for so many years. Trump knives. You mean knives that could cut through his wall? Yeah. Because we've seen fences for our whole lives. But he really made it sound like it was about to be some new shit.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Right. I've never heard a fence sound so good. Right. whole lives but he really made it sound like it was about to be some new shit right yeah i've never heard a fence sound so good right and i mean it is true that like when you ask people who are experts at border security they're like yeah physical barriers are important in certain places and they mostly exist in those places and in other places they make no fucking sense. So it does sound like via this, like, you know, entirely too long shutdown where he was refusing to pay anybody, he has maybe like come around to a rational way of thinking about this or a more rational way of thinking. these next three weeks go as the government is temporarily funded. And he fights for a wall of some sort, something that he can call a wall and feel like it's a wall.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Let's talk about Venezuela, guys. Oh, yeah. Let's get light. Yes. Some of our listeners pointed out that we didn't really tell the full story of Venezuela's troubles when we were talking at the end of last week about the fact that their country has been in economic collapse for years now, and America actually plays a role in that. I think we even mentioned that Lindsey Graham said that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants to turn America into a Venezuelan-style socialist disaster or something to that effect.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So we should probably mention that America has played a large role in Venezuela's current economic situation. First of all, they have imposed unilateral and illegal financial embargoes, which cut Venezuela off from most financial markets. And these are illegal by international law. So it's causing even greater shortages of essential goods, including food and medicine. And it makes economic recovery basically impossible for them. And then there's also, you know, a big cause of their economic collapse was the 2014 fall in oil prices. And there is some speculation that that was the result of a U.S. and Saudi conspiracy to basically flood the international market with cheap oil. Right. And Super Producer Ana Hosnia, this is something you talked about on your tremendous podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yes. If you go back to episode four, we are terrible at this. We did discuss how Saudi Arabia is considered a swing producer of oil and they basically wanted to take out Iran and America's oil. And America. No. So America was doing fracking. That's how they were getting their oil. But because also America didn't want Russia to have any oil power, so they teamed up with Saudi Arabia and were like, okay, yeah, fuck our oil too. And basically did it. So Saudi Arabia, they have so much oil, they can regulate the market.
Starting point is 00:44:59 They only in 2014 had to sell for $7 a barrel, while America was selling for $60 a barrel. So they already knew they could run the market and they wanted to take out Iran's ability to sell oil. They wanted to take out Russia's ability to sell oil. They just wanted to run the market. And in doing so, they did, but they basically screwed over Venezuela. Yeah, they bankrupted Venezuela and Russia and Iran all got hurt by it because, I mean, it was basically the Western powers realized that the non-Western powers, Venezuela, Russia, Iran, were kind of overly leveraged in oil.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Like most of their wealth was in oil. Also, Africa as well, like Libya, Angola, Nigeria also suffered. Yeah. Screw those guys. They've had it too good for too long. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a longstanding,
Starting point is 00:45:47 and obviously America has a long history of meddling in Central and South American nations and just supporting any right-leaning regime over anybody who wants to share a single thing with the people. So yeah, it's not all just like, well, look at them. They really fucked this up.
Starting point is 00:46:07 America kind of had its foot on the scale slash their head. It goes very deep because one of the reasons they want to screw Iran over is so they'd have less money to put into soldiers fighting in Syria. Right. It's all never-ending circle.
Starting point is 00:46:23 All that screws over Venezuela, who's over here like, I'm not fighting anyone in Syria. Like, we ain't fighting nobody. Yeah. And then they're just like, shh, you deal with what happens to you. Right. It's wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:35 There we go again. I said wild. It is wild. Yeah. Wild is now the word that anytime we say it in the office, we're like, whoa. We were right when we said people say that word. I've never had less to add. And what is your take on Syria, Nick?
Starting point is 00:46:54 I can't imagine what y'all talked about last week where someone was like, we need more of that. That was fun. More of the fun stuff. Yeah just missed the laugh. Yeah, no more laughing. Oh, man. Well, that's depressing, but I'm trying to relate it to my own life and failing to. It just sucks that Venezuela is a casualty of all of this when they're definitely, they
Starting point is 00:47:20 have no stake when it comes to global warfare. Right. We just have a coffee. They just have no chance because they also have a corrupt leader so you just like have no chance yeah they got a lot of things going i was under the impression it was pronounced venezuela there we go there you go that's your way take it home with you guys. Venezuela. Venezuela. Take it home. The situation in Venezuela is similar to... It's a Venezuela. I mean, they're trying to be self-sufficient, like cutting your own hair, for instance. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:47:54 They're all nuts. Right. These people don't deserve oil. I don't know what to... I didn't get the whole story. All right. We're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:48:03 story. All right, we're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were
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Starting point is 00:50:51 from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months.
Starting point is 00:51:11 These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. And we're back and let's talk about facebook facebook plans to integrate its messaging services on instagram whatsapp and facebook messenger this is my friends and i actually
Starting point is 00:52:20 moved off of whatsapp onto a different service where you can have your messages like disappear. I think it's called Signal because we realized Facebook owns WhatsApp. So I don't know who this is going to fool, but it does seem that they're saying that this is like a personal project of Mark Zuckerberg where he wants to like get it all together now because he's trying to get his mitts on that instagram uh you know all those instagram users because that's what people actually use now because facebook's dying right zuck after after that shit you did with the elections like we're not giving you no more of our information damn you don't got my bank account information from
Starting point is 00:53:00 venmo you got all my messages from facebook and everywhere else. I'm taking it old school. I'm going to start sending carrier pigeons and just hoping. Yeah. Just hoping their dream. He's already got it. Take the rest. His hand's fully in my pocket. I'm like, I can't get it out.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Is that where we are? Fuck it. Have it. Of course. Take it. I don't have anything. Take it. Right. I mean, I guess that's another mentality. I just hope he doesn't look at my safari. God.
Starting point is 00:53:32 He's definitely looking at the safari. The secret to your hiding in there. I just think WhatsApp was where we used to correspond with our foreign baes. You know what I mean? You have domestic baes. You have foreign baes who do wire transfers into your bank account so that you can buy shoes and bags. This is everybody's life, right?
Starting point is 00:53:47 Right. This is normal, right? I'm actually speaking about people I know. But you know, that's how you do it. You did it on WhatsApp. And now WhatsApp is getting sketched. You know what you can do on Instagram too is you can delete DMs on Instagram. They already changed that.
Starting point is 00:53:59 So you can snatch back DMs that you send on Instagram. Oh, interesting. Yes. Cool. I found out because like, right? I found out because some guy did it to me once, like had messaged me a bunch
Starting point is 00:54:11 of stuff and then I came back into the messages one day, presumably to show someone and he has snatched them back. You look so crazy. It's just you, like, just messaging over and over with no response. Right! It was crazy. But then I took that upon myself.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I was like, oh, this is my new thing now. I mean, I don't need to delete DMs, but you can. Tell me more. Right. On Signal, you can delete messages. And also, there's another app, Wicker, which is apparently like the dark web for phones. Every message disappears on the app, and you can choose when. So it can be like, I send the the message and it deletes in one minute,
Starting point is 00:54:47 like two hours, 24 hours, whatever. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. That's a real good excuse for people to say, oh, I didn't get the message. Right. You must have deleted it in the first minute. Also, like how much – this is why I enjoy still talking on the phone. Like if I ever have serious conversations to be had,
Starting point is 00:55:03 I call people so that they can't quote me yes like what just look at what your hr department does at big companies or what uh your friends who do drugs do to get their drugs use those apps yeah so get a beeper yeah because hr will never have a conversation with you about a important thing right on like email or text, it's always like, here, can you call me real quick? It's like, mm. The thing that broke Facebook for me, when Facebook Messenger came out,
Starting point is 00:55:32 and you can call your Facebook friends on the phone, and I was yelling at someone on Facebook, and then he called me, and I was just like, delete, delete. You were in that Facebook argument, and they wanted the smoke it rang it was like my ring oh god
Starting point is 00:55:49 it was in my house that's when Facebook arguments have gotten too real when somebody calls you yeah we're gonna talk about this when somebody calls you
Starting point is 00:55:56 to talk about Louis C.K. nah bruh that's too far I love his dick what's wrong with that the plant the plant didn't get hurt like yeah you shouldn't have to take
Starting point is 00:56:06 no that's wild and also facebook messenger is just filled with like my relatives conspiracy theories that's all this in my facebook messenger is like this is what they don't want you to know and i'm like oh my god the aliens are hypnotizing the water supply if i get one more message from my hotel uncle i don't know what i'm gonna do like i don't even check i deleted the messenger app altogether that's what mark zuckerberg knows that we deleted the app right yeah i think he's getting the message but the fact that this is now a big story that his untainted as yet untainted apps are now being like lumped together so you can't delete them is i think gonna probably scare people off of those yeah i guess instagram doesn't really have a another option that's easy to use right
Starting point is 00:56:51 no you have to use the dm feature right which is crazy because they're already in your dms combing through that shit whatever you're talking about in your dms will eventually pop up on your timeline as an ad so so better apps we said signal because each person you correspond with has a certain set of safety numbers that you can verify to make sure it's the same person the numbers verify the phone and the app so yeah the feds can't fuck with you uh signal i'm downloading this right now yeah this is a great ad and there's an option to make messages disappear. So they don't automatically disappear. But if you want to be shady, you can. And if you want to be really shady, wicker, like we were saying.
Starting point is 00:57:33 No, I only want to be a certain level shady. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like Tiger Woods cheating on his wife shady. But not like- Right. That was still pretty out in the open. Not purchasing children from Mexico shady. it's like if you want to go
Starting point is 00:57:46 to craigslist or do you want to go to back page like there's if i tell you to go to back page that's a deep level of shady right right what is back page i've been seeing that everywhere actually there's like there's now these vans all over los angeles there's like back pages back baby is that that like is that where you get prostitutes? What was crazy was Kamala Harris and her organization as a senator, they were very much against Backpage. Backpage is like Craigslist's dirtier, seedier, nastier cousin. Okay. Yes. Who Craig don't even want to be with in public.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Right. Because my problem with Craigslist is it's too just clean and up and up and trustworthy. Like, I only meet these really upstanding people on Craigslist. Craigslist killer, you know what I mean? But Backpage is like, there's a lot of prostitution that happens on Backpage, which it kind of depends on where you stand for sex work.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I personally, I'm an advocate for sex workers. But Backpage has a lot of sex work on it, and there's a lot of other shady shit. There was that story, remember the Zola story on Twitter, where that girl was tweeting that she went to Florida with that other girl, and then witnessed a murder? Yeah, that was off of Backpage. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Oh, yeah. Did they witness a murder? I forgot that. Did that book ever come out? I don't know, there was supposed to be a movie, too? She was a really good storyteller. She was. She was excellent. She should be telling all the stories. Well, you know she's probably just in editorial hell.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Right. Right. She's sitting right there. She's got like three books gone. Yeah, she's dealing with like- She's like, I want to get back to Twitter. Right. She's dealing with the person who edited Twilight.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And they're like, so we need you to stop ending these with clauses. So no one here howls at the moon. Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that page is very seedy. I remember Backpage, you know, in New York for the Village Voice, the Backpage was called Backpage. And I think, like, it ran on different weeklies around the country.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Right. And it was, like, you you know a lot of sex work but then there was like the very back page was like mostly like want to quit doing weed try cocaine yeah study right you you got you got to be real creepy to get all the way to that back page right yeah you're like well i've tried all these yeah uh let's let's move forward well Nick it's been a pleasure having you man it's over it's over where can people find you um you can find me online on chrome mostly okay um no I actually started a new podcast oh nice and it's why I have so many opinions about Netflix okay and it's and it's why I know so much about will miles um because we uh
Starting point is 01:00:25 do a podcast every week where we watch as much as we can that comes out on friday um and then we like do a podcast a couple days later so it's just like um it's kind of the only place to find out what is new on netflix because netflix keeps everything a secret right they don't tell you anything until it's popular then they'll be like'll be like, okay, you can watch this thing that came out six weeks ago. We put a billboard up now. Right. Everything is a secret
Starting point is 01:00:49 and they have so much, like most Fridays they'll drop like 10, 12 things. Yo. And it's like tons of movies, tons of original movies and series from around the world and stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:59 It's like why I know about Instant Hotel. Right. So there is a lot of gems. There's also a lot of crap, but it's called Recently Added. Recently a lot of crap but uh it's called recently added and uh yeah and it's new and um do you just like bail on something the second you realize it sucks oh sure yeah yeah like some i really try to be a completist and i'm the only
Starting point is 01:01:17 one um what are your feelings on bird box yeah oh well bird box is great and like that's the kind of thing we're like everybody knows about Bird Box. Right. What we want to talk about is memories of the Alhambra, which is this Korean drama that's about this game where you can play in real life, just in your life. And it's really incredible, and I love it. But I just would never hear about it. Right. This is a dope podcast concept and that's also a dope marketing strategy for Netflix because then we never think Netflix is putting out trash because they only market shit that was successful yeah yeah that's why I was like damn Netflix is killing it meanwhile they're just burying shit that was bad right
Starting point is 01:01:57 yeah exactly well this didn't work out and you'll never know your podcast is helping Netflix people will just yeah that's the thing it's like we don't need to do it because things will grow to help us. And that's us doing free work for Netflix. Get at me. Yes. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. No, I got one here, pulled up on the old phone ski.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Okay, here's from Nick Vatterot. The hilarious Nick Vatterot, been a guest on this very show. Fight broke out on Hollywood Boulevard and Spider-Man did nothing. He just stood around getting his picture taken. I love imagining. So you're just being like, Spider-Man! What the fuck, man? Just gonna stand there?
Starting point is 01:02:45 Lacey yes it's been so nice having you as co-host it's been so nice being here thanks for coming in thank you so much
Starting point is 01:02:53 yes I do the minimum where can people find you you know you guys can find me at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I Diva Lacey on all platforms
Starting point is 01:03:02 Twitter Instagram Diva Lacey look at that branding. Yes. And guys be on the lookout for the pilot of my podcast, scam goddess. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:13 I will be tweeting about it. So follow me on Twitter and you will find those tweets. And a tweet that I'm really enjoying. Well, I'll give you two tweets. One is from Naomi Ipiging Blacktress, who's a New York comedian. I think she's in L.A. now.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah. She co-hosts one of our podcasts. Yes. Very good friend. Couple therapy. I met her in New York and then have seen her a couple times around L.A. But she said, this homeless man outside McDonald's parking lot said, can I get a dollar? I'm trying to eat like I'm at the White House.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I'm at the White House. And then another one from Dwayne Perkins is, I wish that that man who was going to suck dick for water for the fire festival was the mayor of Flint, Michigan. Yes, guys. Flint still doesn't have clean water. So just a reminder. That guy is still just amazing. Just burned indelibly into my memory.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Oh, I love that guy. The guy who was willing to suck dick for water. Paul F. Tompkins tweeted last week, like, has anybody checked with him? Like, has he gotten therapy since that happened? Oh, yeah. His name is Andy King, super producer. It really is like one of the best moments in cinematic history. It is.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Like, it's up there with like you know bill murray whispering to scarlett johansson right yeah it's just like i'll never forget and everyone knows what you're talking about instantly yeah just freaking i mean he was really down he never he never even talked about maybe like contemplating or being like is this too much he immediately was down shout out to. I want more people working with me like that. If I call you and tell you to suck dick, I want you to be like, when and where? And how many?
Starting point is 01:04:52 I need my Andy King. That's whatever. I guarantee that's going to start being a thing that entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley say. Who's my Andy King? Who's my Andy King? Who is going to suck dick I need an Andy King.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Who is gonna suck dick for this app? Exactly. He washed his mouth out. I know. That was the thing that Super Producer Nick Stumpf was like, I thought he was gonna say he washed his mouth out
Starting point is 01:05:17 and then went over and grabbed the con man by the throat and was like, don't you ever ask me to do that. But instead he was like, wash my mouth out and went over there fully willing to suck that guy's dick for Evian water. That's dedication.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Shout out to you, Andy King. You a real king. Yes. And get therapy. At Kibblesmith tweeted, if that dragon isn't trained by now, it's not going to happen. And at Pixelated boat tweeted, if they can't afford food,
Starting point is 01:05:47 furloughed workers should simply allow themselves to be lifted off the ground by the scent of a delicious pie and float along the scent trail till they reach the windowsill where the pie is cooling. Also a good idea. And in addition to Wilbur Ross's plan, you can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:06:10 We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! Yeah, so cheerful. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we write out on Super Producer Anna Hosnier. Thanks for having me. I'm going to make this one quick.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I'm going to recommend Morning Air by Portishead, because it's a great song, and Portishead, they the best, she the best. It's the greatest song in the world. Sometimes I put this song on just to think about Andy King. Okay. That morning air, that fresh morning air that tells you i'm ready to suck a dick for evian water uh all right at least it wasn't for uh what's that horrible water that i hate fiji i wouldn't suck no dick for fiji water
Starting point is 01:07:00 okay evian i'll suck a dick for it that's one of my favorite jokes in a movie is, I think it's in Jesus is Magic, Sarah Silverman like, she gets mad at her assistant for bringing Fiji water and she's like, it's too heavy and thick. It's dirt! And that's actually how I feel about Fiji water. It's like drinking dirt.
Starting point is 01:07:20 It is. I don't like Evian. That's my only one I have an opinion on. You want to suck a dick for a minute? No we'll suck different dicks We'll suck dick for more dicks Favorite Favourite bottled water Smart water
Starting point is 01:07:34 All day or a day I just like Poland I like Dasani What? That also tastes like dirt Smart water is like Breastfeeding from God Yeah, I like Dasani. What? That also tastes like dirt. That's tap water, my man. Smart water is like breastfeeding from God.
Starting point is 01:07:50 You just suck it on God's teeth. Never had it. Never had water. Oh, you should try it. Oh, my God. You will feel so much better. Not my thing. Do you guys feel hot?
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