The Daily Zeitgeist - RUN FOR SENATE, Caveman Twitter 8.14.19
Episode Date: August 14, 2019In episode 454, Jack and Miles are joined by Ron Burgundy Podcast's Carolina Barlow to discuss Chris Cuomo yelling at people who called him names, Trump's pettiness towards Justin Trudeau, the trades ...wars with China, protests going on in Hong Kong, the presidential candidates that should give up and run for senate, the new Princess Diana musical, Olive Garden's Pasta Pass, the death of cable, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Here We Present Chris Cuomo at His Most Wild and Relatable2. Scoop: Inside Trump's strange pen-pal diplomacy with Justin Trudeau3. Trump dismisses farmers’ concerns over trade war as his agriculture secretary insults them4. Chaos Grips Hong Kong’s Airport as Police Clash with Protesters5. Hickenlooper would have a massive lead in Senate primary, poll finds6. Beto, come home. Texas needs you. [Editorial]7. The Princess Diana Musical Is Coming to Broadway8. Olive Garden to America: Drop Dead9. U.S. Pay-TV Subscriber Losses More Than Triple To 1.5M In Q2, Report Finds10. WATCH: Yesterday - J Dilla - EXTENDED CUT Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 95, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say,
officially, off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News.
It's Wednesday, August 14th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
I'm going to need your help on this, Miles.
I'm Jack O'Brien.
Ooh, ooh.
I host the best.
Ooh, podcast.
I'm Jack O'Brien with Miles and special guest.
Wow.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Crispy meme donut.
That was actually the most delicate I think I've ever heard you sing anything ever.
Yeah, man.
I think it's because we don't have headphones on.
Hotel room.
I don't know.
Full disclosure, yeah.
All that rattling is Jack's mouse going bananas on this tiny table right now.
Sorry about that.
I'm sorry.
Who am I?
And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,
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Okay, anyway, that was Beck, the loser.
It's very jarring also that I'm not hearing my own voice.
Yeah, I know.
I can't hear him.
I don't know if I'm speaking loud enough.
I feel like we're not even doing this.
Yeah.
But thank you, too.
That was Strike Gang at JustTDZ,
aka that wonderful Beck-inspired AKB.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by the hilarious and talented co-host of the Ron Burgundy podcast, Carolina Barlow.
Hello.
Hello.
Thank you for having me.
How are you?
Thank you for being on our show.
Very happy to be here.
Yeah, we're thrilled to have you.
Just so full disclosure, we are in Orlando right now for Podcast Movement.
We all put on our badges.
We're all wearing badges.
Rocking our lanyards.
It feels official right now.
Very official.
Hotel room overlooking a lazy river
that, I mean,
we can only be so blessed
to know it's touch later on.
I do feel like Orlando is very,
like it knows its brand.
Like on the drive over here,
I saw people like water skiing
next to like a jump and shit.
I think Florida knows its brand.
Yeah.
I think. I can see like three roller coasters right now. skiing next to like a jump and shit i think florida knows its brand yeah i think just yeah
i can see like three roller coasters right now i think just at all times it's a requirement in
orlando that all uh theme parks also that was a new lesson sea world now has uh roller coasters
yeah it does oh wow but i guess you have to keep up why i mean the whales seem like they're cool
enough yeah people are down with that still.
It was rated Orlando's number one theme park,
according to a sign I saw.
Well, Caroline, we're going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners
a few of the things we're talking about today,
such as the fact that Chris Cuomo
is the Fredo of the Cuomo family, possibly.
We better not say that.
Oh, right, right.
My bad.
Well, I'm sure it'll be bleeped.
I mean, we have standards here.
And obviously that's a terrible,
terrible insult.
We're going to talk about
Donald Trump's habit
of sending people
torn out articles
with Sharpies scribbled all over them.
We're going to talk about
the trade wars.
Trade wars.
We're going to talk about what's going on in Hong Kong
and Democratic presidential candidates
who just need to fucking run for Senate already.
And then in the fun part,
we'll talk about the Diana musical.
We'll talk about Olive Garden.
We'll talk about how cable is dying still.
All of that and more.
But first, Carolina, we like to ask our guests what is
something from your search history uh that's revealing about who you are i would say the fact
that every few days i google ivanka trump to see um something embarrassing that she's done yeah
and there's always something there and it always brings me joy yeah um what is it that gives you
the joy that like people know she sucks or well yeah i think that donald trump is such an obvious
racist and on the ron burgundy podcast we had a criminal psychologist who diagnosed him as a
narcopath so a narcissist sociopath yes so really, he really can't function in terms of compassion or caring about others,
which is evident if you've watched the news.
But Ivanka Trump, I think, is like the, I think she's the standard for a white moderate,
but she's in the worst place in the world to be a white moderate.
Yeah.
And I remember just watching the election thinking thinking if she just stood up one day and said my father's a lunatic please she would be as a mother well
that's the whole other thing i get upset about is that she's saying that she's like looking out for
women and children and i'm um anyway yeah so i have a dream that comes up once in a while of me
approaching ivanka trump at a party and trying to humiliate her. And I wake up and it looks like I've been like wrestling in my sleep. Like I look
so exhausted. So yeah, she occupies like some of my time. Do you ever have those dreams like where
you're trying to fight but your body's not moving rapidly enough? So do you have that with Ivanka?
Yes. Well, it's something like I'm trying to confront her at a party. I can't find her at this party.
And I'm trying to tell her how awful she is.
But I only have like 20 seconds.
So I'm like, listen, you're a complicit piece of shit.
Sorry, I can't hear you.
Bye.
I know.
Now, do you feel any compassion for her having been raised by that father who was so kind of creepy physically and otherwise towards her?
I think yes and no.
I mean, it's a terrible thing for any young girl to grow up with a father like that.
Yeah.
girl to grow up with a father like that yeah but she father issues shouldn't um like lead you to basically take down western democracy like i mean like yeah i have compassion but it just doesn't
measure to the fact that she is just standing idly by but this is this is what really gets me
about her is that she leaks um to the news that she tries to help so
you always hear that like ivanka actually thinks her dad should do something about gun legislation
i just read something the other day that uh she is going to solve america's gun problem yes so
by whining um with decades of zero experience right yeah. Yeah. I mean, I personally find myself having no compassion for the Trump children.
Oh, well, Eric and Don Jr.
Eric Dozier, yeah.
Just that picture of them with the tiger they killed, I think they're the two most disgusting
people of all time.
That's what I really feel bad for, because his name's fucked.
Where is he, too?
He's going to, when he's like 25, he he's gonna have to change his, he's gonna be,
I don't know, he might become a full-on Trumper,
or he might be like, I don't know, dude,
I'm just trying to be, like, a fucking dubstep producer.
I'm just going by Dayron.
I'm just looking for an internship.
Yeah, and Shelly Miscavige are hanging out together somewhere.
But Ivanka has enough of, like, the finger on the pulse
where she knows what she wants to look like.
Like, Don Jr., they look like 80s like supervillains.
Like Ivanka at least knows what kind of veneers to get.
Yeah, exactly.
She gets her hair done.
They look like B-grade Gordon Gekos.
Yes.
Like what her brothers are like.
Although he does know enough to have hated his father during college, apparently.
According to people who went to college with him, he said he hated his dad.
I heard he struggled with alcoholism yeah but that also of course in the muller report we saw that
donald trump called him the stupidest person with the worst judgment right which see that's how i
knew the the report was full of shit no way with my dad could you ever hear my dad saying that about
him no all right uh what is something you think is overrated?
Overrated, I think running for exercise is overrated.
It's bad for your joints.
I can't run also, so I find it's personal.
I used to go to those Barry's Boot Camp classes.
So you run for half of them,
and then you lift weights for the second half,
and you switch off.
So it's supposed to be amazing for you. And every time I to the class i would say hey i can't run just by the way
so i'm not gonna be running quickly i'm gonna be very slow right and every time they would say okay
and then in the middle of the class they would be like number three come on you can give me
us more than that and i was like i actually cannot i never have been able to like they just
assumed my joints yeah you hadn't been properly humiliated exactly yeah i was like, I actually cannot. I never have been able to. They just assumed. I told you my joints. Yeah.
You hadn't been properly humiliated.
Exactly.
I was like, just don't yell at me in general.
I'm paying you.
But people respond to that.
People do.
They love that.
Yeah.
I'm so not that.
But what would be an effective training style for you?
Like, hey, if you want to, I don't know, lift those weights a little bit.
Yeah.
I literally have a treadmill in my backyard that I just use for walking i just walk for exercise in your backyard yeah it's on like
my little patio in my okay i just oh i like this one out in the sun right like next to the
bench press you're like no i get down just not in a fucking gym
while i'm walking right just i'm going to sugar all day. Yeah.
What is something you think is underrated?
So this is something that I truly believe.
I think Shonda Rhimes in all her television shows are underrated.
And I don't mean they obviously are some of the most successful on TV.
I mean, but I don't think people take them seriously as they take like Ryan Murphy's
TV shows or even Dan Fogelman's TV shows.
Which have the same range of a little bit of- What are even Dan Fogelman's TV shows, which have the same range of a little bit of-
What are the Dan Fogelman shows?
Sorry, just for-
Yes, this is us.
That's his show.
Oh, right.
Okay, gotcha.
So I think that there's just,
like just people don't think it's like a woman's TV show.
Like, oh, your wife's gonna go home,
like have a glass of wine and watch Scandal.
But if you watch Scandal,
you will experience what every woman in middle america is experiencing yeah just like the
thrill of a lifetime great it's a fucking great idea for a show it's just brilliant yeah and it
turns out it's accurate based on like what we're seeing these days yes um but also just gray's
anatomy i mean she's the only woman to have three hit TV shows that have over 100 episodes each.
And like people spell her name wrong in articles, you know, like people.
I don't know.
It's just I could go on for longer about it.
But I just don't think people take.
I don't know.
There's a few things that have mass appeal that because they have a mass appeal, I think people don't take seriously.
And her shows are one of them.
Got you.
Yeah, I heard the same argument made with Big Little Lies
that when that first came on,
people were like,
oh, it's just like a fun little light diversion.
It was like, well, you don't say that about shows
that are exactly the same but have men in them.
But yeah, Shonda Rhimes has,
her company shondaland
is apparently like the best place in hollywood to work and like they promote from within and like
right and it's named like a theme park exactly the roller coasters are fucking sick yeah yeah
and what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false well there's one that
my mom said was true which isn't which is that if you shave your legs it'll grow back darker and stubbly and that's just not true because
it grows mine grows back like fluffy and blonde it goes back fluffier actually at this point it's
spider webs well you really gotta let it grow out too right um you yeah just don't shave it at all
and it'll grow out really nicely also jesus i read the bible when i was um in
college great book jesus isn't even in there jesus didn't even exist no um myth busted no um
christmas is just like a guess for jesus's birthday oh yeah like nobody like that's not
anywhere in the bible right that's literally. And then some people think Hippolytus or the Pope
just chose the 25th,
but they didn't even,
and they chose it because
spring equinox was supposed to be
when he was conceived.
Right.
So they just counted nine months away.
And isn't it the longest night?
Like it's the most winter.
I think that's the technical scientific term.
The most winter day of the year or something like that. It's winter I think that's the technical scientific term the most winter day of the
year or something winter it's still fucking cold
that day yeah it's the day
on which the earth is
trying to kill you because they went to
looking for the manger because everyone had to go back
to their hometown to get counted up
for like a janky census
so that is one of the stories
that biblical scholars
use to say,
okay, this story never happened,
because that just doesn't make any historical sense.
They didn't have the means, the motivation to do that.
Organization.
Yeah, the organization.
And why would they send them back to their hometown?
I read an analysis of it. They break
down
actual historical logic
versus narrative logic.
That's one of the stories
that they're just like, no, that sounds like
a fun story. We're going to have to go
to Christland or whatever that theme
park is now in Orlando.
You can pay your respects.
What is it called
godland uh whatever it was yeah whatever wherever there's a live crucifixion every hour on the hour
it's wild we may have to go as much as i want to go to disney world
it is called the holy land experience perfect where the true heroes live. Yes. Oh, boy. Yep. Yeah, so you guys out there
worshiping Mickey Mouse
where you need to go to.
Fucking Holy Land, bro.
Some of the...
You got Mickey Mouse, you got Mary Magdalene.
Right. What did Mike Penn say?
He was like, stay off the internet
and spend more time on your knees.
Yeah, less time on the internet.
Less time on the internet, more time on your knees.
Cut down your screen time, go to the Holy Land.
Less time at Disneyland, more time on your knees.
He doesn't know how that sounds.
He does.
No one tell him.
I don't want anyone to tell him.
He's cheeky.
I just wanted to read some user experiences from Holy Land.
Very spiritually moving.
I felt divinely inspired and blessed
by the mighty hand of God.
Words cannot express how I have been blessed
by being a part of the army of God today.
So sounds like our people.
I think we should go to that.
I do want to go.
It would be, the thing is,
look, I went to Lutheran school
from kindergarten to eighth grade
in Catholic high school.
So I can definitely operate in these spaces.
You know which way the cross goes when you're making it.
Oh, fuck yes, dude.
We'll talk about all kinds of miracles and shit.
Dude, Philippians 4.13?
Or 3.14?
Anyway, but there would be something
that would become massively, I think,
just sort of uncomfortable when we're there.
And we're in the presence of people who are like,
this is great.
The way this guy's getting whipped.
Very nerve wracking. Yeah, they have a somewhat
regular passion play,
which is one of the most problematic
things you can have.
And one lucky guest could be Christ today.
Me, me, me.
Who wants to be Christ?
Oh, he got to be Christ last time.
Let's get into the first and most important story of the day.
Chris Cuomo was insulted.
He was pissed.
Yeah.
Cuomo's pissed, you guys.
He was on Shelter Island with his family, and some dude just got in his face and apparently
did the thing you're never supposed to do to an italian man okay
i thought that's who you were no punk ass bitches from the right call me fredo my name is chris
cuomo i'm an anchor on cnn fredo is from the godfather he was a weak brother and they use
it as an italian aspersion any of you italian it's a fucking insult to your people it's an
insult to your fucking people it's like the n-word for us
Is that a cool fucking thing? You're much more reasonable guy in person than you seem to be on television
Yeah, but if you want to play then we'll fucking play. You got something you want to say about what I do on television
Then say it, but don't be gonna call me a fucking insult. Hey man, hey listen. I don't want any problems bro.
You're gonna have a big fucking problem. What's the problem? It's a little different on TV. Don't fucking insult me like that. I didn't insult you. You called me Fredo.
It's like I call you punk bitch. You like that?
You want that to be your nickname? I didn't call you that.
You called me Fredo. You know my name's not
fucking Fredo. I thought your name was. You did not think
my name was fucking Fredo. Don't be a liar.
You want to be a man, stand up like a man.
I'm standing up, man. You want to be a man, I'm here.
Then fucking own it. Then own what you said.
Then own what you said.
I don't have a problem with you, man.
You're going to have a fucking problem.
What?
What are you going to do about it?
I'll fucking ruin your shit.
I'll fucking throw you down these stairs like a fucking punk.
Please do.
So you can fucking sue?
So you can fucking sue?
Well, why don't you do it, then?
Go take a swing.
If you want to call me Fredo, take a fucking swing.
Wow.
Okay, so Chris Cuomo, clearly he's very strong in his masculinity.
Right.
That's what I've learned from that video. Chris Cuomo has been supp's very strong in his masculinity. Right. What I've learned from that video.
Has been suppressing his strong Bronx accent.
I don't know what that is.
Whatever.
Yeah.
And he's also demonstrating he does not know what a racial slur is.
Right.
When he goes, you call me Fredo?
Yeah.
That's like the N word for Italians.
Comparing something to the N-word is strong but wrong.
I mean, if you're going to swing on that pitch,
it better be a big swing.
Yes.
Because he went for a bunt on that one.
Really crazy.
It's all based off of that Michael Corleone's brother
from The Godfather, Fredo, was like, you know, I get it.
He was lame.
But for it to have that much weight for someone and to actually
then shame another Italian-American,
he's like, good. That's a slur against our
people.
I didn't
realize that. I guess in a way
Godfather is
canon.
For sure.
Something tells me that's not the first time
he's been called that, possibly.
Yeah, well, he said,
Punks on the right or something, call me Fredo.
I mean, that person who walks up to a famous person
and insults them is like, what's wrong with you?
Well, this person is like a wannabe right-wing gotcha guy.
Jesse Waters guy.
He seemed like a natural comedian.
Yeah, I mean, he was pretty funny.
Yeah, so I mean, you know,
what's funny is Sean Hannity actually was like,
you know what?
Chris Cuomo doesn't have to apologize for anything.
This is his tweet.
He said, I say good for Chris Cuomo.
He's out with his nine-year-old daughter and his wife,
and this guy is being a jackass in front of his family.
In my humble opinion,
Chris Cuomo has zero to apologize for.
He deserves the apology.
I'm just really glad that's where Sean Hannity decided,
like the hill he decided to die on.
He's like, you know what?
I'm going to break ties with my party for a second.
Everything else is going great.
Everything else has been perfect.
I have to say something about this.
It's like that meme of the two arms locking in like a,
you know, from like, you son of a bitch from predator unlock where on one side it's a fox news the other side
says cnn and the fist grabbing is that fredo is a slur right like over there like you know what
the same we don't fucking agree on a lot but that's fucking disrespectful there was a girl
with curly blonde hair like me who my friend called a fucking ramen noodle head.
Wow.
Aggressive.
I kind of thought it was really funny, though.
Yeah, I mean, it's very.
I was like, he was like, oh, that fucking ramen noodle head.
And I was like, hey, I have blonde curly hair, too.
Right.
That being said, I would never say, hey, does your mom have blonde curly hair?
Yeah.
So you're disrespecting our people. Right. Right, hey, does your mom have blonde curly hair? Yeah, so you're disrespecting our people.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, to sort of.
Just insane in any way comparing it to the N-word would be insane.
Hey, well, he's a tough guy, we found out.
And, you know, good for him, I guess.
But the ramen noodle, was that around like when Justin Timberlake
had his hair that looked like ramen noodles?
Because I feel like that was a very en vogue insult.
He had, yes.
His hair really, yeah, because it had a wetness to it.
And the tips were so frosted.
They could only be mistaken for uncooked ramen noodles.
So brutal.
I'm sure that Chris Cuomo's wife and daughter
were thrilled that he chose to take it to the mat on this one
rather than just like letting it roll off
his back. I mean he was doing the thing that like rich
people who want to act tough do which is like
say everything except get violent
or like if you know
people who are like who are
about that shit they're typically
just like no my ego has been damaged
and I'm just going to react violently where he's like
I'll fucking throw you down the stairs.
Is that not enough?
Ah, fuck you.
Chris Cuomo once threatened to eat me.
He said he picks chunks of people like me
out of his stool.
No, he didn't.
Yeah, he did.
When I worked at ABC News.
Wow.
He's just a very fratty dude.
Why does he pick chunks out of his stool?
I can't.
It's like one of those things that falls apart right away.
Like happy Gilmore.
I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.
No.
So you examine your stool and pick chunks.
I'm having some sort of bowel things right now.
And the doctor says I need to send.
Look, look, fuck you, kid.
I do think that like toxic masculinity is inherently unattractive like guys
who are going to pick a fight with someone i like just from a female standpoint i think that's
actually repulsive like which i don't think you can know unless you're in that moment we're like
oh my god no you are being so pathetic right now like the strong move is just to walk away right
right obviously there's like circumstances where that's not the case but for the most part so pathetic right now. Right. The strong move is just to walk away. Right. Right. Obviously,
there's like circumstances
where that's not the case,
but for the most part,
like fighting someone
on vacation.
Right.
But who knows,
his wife was like,
oh my God,
Chris,
that was so fucking hot.
It's like the end
of Mystic River.
You come here right now.
That fucking jabroni
down the fucking stairs,
Christopher.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered.
There are crooks everywhere you look now.
The situation is desperate.
My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports,
where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them boys.
I just come here to play basketball every single day,
and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros,
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
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culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know
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And there's a story that echoes something I had heard Trump has done for years.
That he was using an analog form of Twitter before anyone. Yeah, basically.
When the New Yorker profiled him and the person who wrote the story it wasn't
flat i mean it was just an honest right account of spending a week with donald trump and how he
was just completely empty and was like hey it's a pretty cool life huh i said that to the great
life don't i how cool is my life literally Literally, like that's all. He kept just literally saying those words.
Yeah, so the guy wrote the article
and then like a couple weeks later,
he got in the mail a piece of the article
with loser written on it from Donald Trump.
Hey, Tom, you are a loser.
Love, Donald Trump.
Just scrawled across the page like that.
Yeah, because he just like gets mad at stuff and writes
on it. Well, this falls perfectly
in line with it. There's no way his TV doesn't.
It's literally the burn book from Mean Girls.
Except he's sending the pages out.
The girl is a fugly slut. Do not trust
her.
He's like, what you don't know is there's also
a copy for his burn book that he puts together
in bed. He's always had
a complicated relationship with Justin Trudeau.
Yeah, well, because Justin Trudeau has stood up to him.
Right.
And he always says, apparently, about him when he's not around Trudeau
or just casually to people in the cabinet,
he always refers to him as a tough guy.
He's like, yeah, he's a tough guy.
This guy's a tough guy.
About Trudeau? Trudeau, he's a tough guy. He's like, yeah, he's a tough guy. This guy's a tough guy. About Trudeau?
About Trudeau, he's a tough guy.
What?
But yeah, that's like the weird nickname for him
that he always refers to him as a tough guy,
which is, of course, the thing you say
when you're a dude trying to fight.
Right.
Oh, a tough guy, huh?
Okay.
I also think he must be threatened
by Trudeau's good looks.
Yes.
For someone who's so obsessed with their appearance and the long ties and the tan, you don't even talk about his hair.
Let's say it's painted on with grease paint.
Yeah.
It's like, it's again, it's just too much of a villain situation.
But you, yeah, just to see someone who is so almost jokingly attractive.
Right.
And who your daughter wants to fuck.
Yes.
Like that picture of Ivanka.
That picture of Ivanka.
That's in the burn book.
That is in the burn book.
She's just in profile,
and she's looking at his mouth.
With her pen in her mouth.
Yes.
Oh, there's a, wow.
Her pen is dangling out of her mouth.
I am too self-conscious to have ever done that in front of a crush.
Right.
Because it's too overtly sexual.
Right, right, right.
Good God.
She's like, I'm an 80s seductress.
My husband is a giant 12-year-old, and I will have sex with you.
Yeah, I wonder how Jared feels also seeing that photo,
because it's like him just on like Chad pills basically.
Right, right.
Bigger and bulkier and more masculine.
Anyway, so with Trudeau, it's the same shit, right?
There was an issue of Bloomberg Businessweek.
This is from 2017 in May.
There's a picture of Trudeau and the headline just said,
the anti-Trump.
So our man tore the fucking cover off the magazine as you do and
wrote on it in silver sharpie and this is according to people with direct knowledge something to the
effect of looking good hope it's not true wow so like not a well thought out response either just
hope it's not true okay like that like you want to defeat
me that you're gonna write down i don't know um and then so this was so absurd that the canadian
ambassador thought it was a prank and immediately like reached out to the white house and was like
um yeah i think we may have gotten some kind of prank thing on like the stationery realistic
facsimiles of white house mail yeah they're like this is no this that
was very real and they're like some mentally disturbed person but then it got basically it
ramped up a little bit even more so then in december of 2017 trump told a crowd in pensacola
florida that he's like you know we've got a tremendous trade deficit with canada and we've
got it we've got to write that and you know around time, he mailed Trudeau this document,
but of course it's a White House one
that only takes into account data
that would only support his point very narrowly,
a document that shows that the US had a trade deficit.
And then in Sharpie wrote, not good!
Amazing.
Exclamation point.
Well said.
But this whole document, they say, all the analysts are like it's only mentioning
the deficit in the trade of goods and ignored the surplus in services so when you combine them it
actually gives the u.s an overall surplus but it's only looking at this one piece so then trudeau
uh clapped back on his official stationery not ripped off documents or whatever, and wrote, Dear Donald,
it's been a busy year. Enjoy the Christmas holidays. You deserve it. Oh, one thing. You
gave a great speech in Pensacola, but you were slightly off on the balance of trade with Canada.
The U.S. Treasury Department says so. All the best for 2018, Justin. And the second page of
the letter is a printout of this informational page that is from the U.S. trade like office that shows exactly that there is a trade surplus.
And it was like, and that's the devil's kiss he gave him.
So, you know, they have a very, I just like that.
That's how they get in Canada.
That's the most insulting.
Yeah, that's as far as they can go.
I will highlight a fact.
And it will be apparent.
And that's all we will need to do about this.
He literally says you deserve like a good holiday. You deserve it. You know what? highlight a fact and it will be apparent and that's all we will need to do about he literally
says you deserve like a good holiday you deserve it you know what i'm not going to say you don't
deserve it because christmas should be fun for everyone right exactly you're probably mean to
me because you're just exhausted yeah we have the caveman like not good great thank you well
speaking of donald trump's version trade, his conception of trade,
it looks like the U.S. may have blinked in the whole staring contest with China.
Yeah.
Well, everyone was saying about this trade war, don't do it.
Yeah.
And he was like, they're very easy to win.
Yeah.
They're very chill.
They're so easy to win. So easy.'re very chill. They're so easy to win.
So easy.
They're not, okay, I don't know how you win this.
So basically we're at this point where there's a lot of indicators we've talked about in past episodes
that a lot of economists are looking at sort of all kinds of data that suggests that there's a recession coming.
And to add on top of that, just completely disrupting trade with china like
in a very unproductive destructive way is the worst fucking possible move um so then what happened
was there was like there was those new tariffs that were announced like about a month ago and
then recently mnuchin came out and was just saying uh you know what actually we're gonna delay some
of these tariffs until mid-December.
And everyone's like, what the fuck was going on?
They're like, a lot of people thought,
oh, maybe they are trying to find some kind of middle ground
because it really doesn't help either country,
but China would fare better, I think, in the long run.
And so a lot of people were sort of speculating.
And then it turns out, on Tuesday,
people asked Trump directly what was going on with the tariffs, he said we're doing this for the christmas season just in case some of the tariffs
would have an impact on u.s customers so in a way that maybe he realizes that it could have
negative effects because prior to this he's like right everything is so chill they're giving us
all this money and people are saying no no but the consumers ultimately pay this tax on the
incoming goods like it doesn't matter that's not how it works so then when he's talking about the
negative impact he then goes on to say so far there have been virtually none no negative impact
no negative impacts even though we've lost like three and a half billion dollars in corn loss
yeah i mean the the farm trade is really like what the most absurd whole piece of this whole puzzle is, because while he's saying there's no impact, China announced last week they would completely suspend U.S. agricultural imports.
So crazy.
And that completely shuts off one of the biggest markets to these farmers.
Yeah.
And he's like, well, they're going to get subsidies.
But none of these farmers want that.
No.
That's not an actual solution to my long-term business as a farmer where I grow fucking shit and I sell it.
I don't just need you to buy, give me the money.
This needs to function as a farm.
And so with that, the Secretary of Agriculture-
I mean, I think he put this to rest,
the idea that farmers were unhappy.
So on top of all this, when people are like,
I don't care what you're saying,
these tariffs are fucking up our entire business.
Like this is.
Lifelong farmers are just closing their farms.
Yeah.
And they were closing their dairy farms.
And there were, there were Nebraskans or Iowans, I think over the weekend at the fair that were like sort of ceremoniously changing their party affiliation from Republican to Democrat to like show like this is negatively affecting us.
democrat to like show like this is negatively affecting us so sonny purdue uh he was he was talking to like a group of farmers at like farm fest and he tells them he's like you know i had
a farmer tell me in pennsylvania and everyone's like what the where the fuck is this going he
said what do you call two farmers in a basement i said i don't know what do you call them he said
a wine cellar because the fucking crowd started booing.
Because the farmers are whining.
Oh.
Yeah, about all the trade and how like all the fucking tariffs are.
It's a crazy joke for so many reasons.
One of which is that farmers are some of like the sturdiest people of all time.
Like they wake up at like 3 a.m. to start. Bunch of whiners.
You know, I'm'm like oh my god really and
their bodies like are like they've defied traditional scientific knowledge or like your
body looks too small to be this strong yeah no they've been working since they were actual
children and um and this pennsylvania farmer approaches him and is like you know me and my
kind are a bunch of
fucking whiners. We can both agree
on that, so let me tell you this joke.
Right, exactly. It's like telling
a saying that you heard
a racist joke from the person
of the race that you're making fun of
to try and get away with it.
Uh-huh. Yeah, no, it's a farmer
who told me this. So I guess it's
cool. He's like that how we all suck so from that uh
i think it's a smooth transition to uh international news we don't usually cover
much international news but uh this story is just growing and growing yeah amongst other
places and we probably should talk about india pakistan too because that's another
yeah uh conflict but yeah the protests in hong kong have gotten just progressively more intense And we probably should talk about India and Pakistan too, because that's another conflict.
But yeah, the protests in Hong Kong have gotten just progressively more intense and more organized.
We mentioned, I think like 10 weeks ago,
whenever it started,
because there was this law that was being proposed
that would essentially like the people
that were living in Hong Kong
could be extradited to mainland China
to like face like the legal system there.
Just be disappeared essentially.
Right. And you know, like the people in Hong Kong have, you know, they've been sort of in a,
they have a semi-autonomous sort of standing with China where there's like two different systems
happening at the same time, even though they're China and they enjoy a lot more freedom than
people on the mainland. But the biggest thing was like, absolutely not. If you're going to
start extraditing people, it's just going to stifle like dissident voices and things like that.
And progressively, it's just more people have been in the streets,
more interactions with the police.
The police are getting more violent.
There's video of them like planting shit on protesters.
So crazy.
And a lot of it has to do with like, you know,
right now China is in an all out mission,
like using their state news to
essentially just paint these people as like rioters right and terrorists yeah no it's complete
propaganda and it's also just yeah i mean it's undermining any sympathy for their goals the right
now um the most recent thing that happens like on monday the protesters shut down the fucking hong
kong airport like just fully like they had to cancel all the flights. And that's, I think, a very effective protest tool because the amount of commerce that gets just fucking stopped up right there, like, that's going to force people to do something.
Because, you know, all that travel in and out of the city, like, has a lot of, a huge ripple effect.
And then on Tuesday morning, there were still some protesters left.
But right now, the Chinese response has been, like, vehicles and personnel on the border near Shenzhen and issuing warnings like, you will invite your own self-destruction or something like that.
So it's very disturbing.
And I don't know, considering what the relationship the U.S. has with China, I don't know, like look, considering how, what the relationship with the US has with China,
I don't know what the,
like you'd think
this would be a thing
you do not want
the Chinese to go
and like soldiers
and like just violently
put down
these demonstrations.
But it seems like
that's inevitably
where it's headed.
Yeah,
it's tough,
like I don't know
because they can shut down
the internet,
but like a lot of people
have cameras there too and it's a different time than like tiananmen square like there's
and like china absolutely wants to play it very cool i don't know it it's it's something we have
to keep our eye on it would be a great time to have a president right you know like a president
who doesn't praise dictators it would be an amazing time. And all of these Democratic candidates obviously are speaking out in support of the protesters.
Right.
But it means just a little bit more coming from the White House.
Yeah, I think all he said was, like, I hope both sides figure out something happy.
It was, like, the most both sides-y shit ever.
And it was, like, a tweet.
And it was just like, oh, no.
He talks like a second
grader who's not trying that hard right you know what i mean like i was like shit i have to turn
this assignment let me just i'll just i'll finish it on my way to school right or like when you're
talking but you're not actually even thinking about what you're saying yeah right when it's
like how do you feel about that yeah i think both sides all should do good points right and everyone's um direction is going into the
the right place bravo thank you madam secretary thank you i could not have put that better
did you write that yeah is that written down i just wrote that down that's amazing general
secretary of the un yeah let's uh let's talk about the democratic candidate field so it is
narrowing, right?
Yes.
Like some of the-
Yeah, people are out.
Tom Steyer, I think, is going to get in this next debate.
I know, but he doesn't have the percentage points, but he has enough donors.
Right.
He's interesting.
He could plant so many trees.
I just wish he would go do that.
Yeah, he-
He has enough money to like-
This is what he should do.
He needs to bankroll the Senate campaigns
of some of these other fucking presidential candidates.
So yeah, it is thinning out.
But I think a lot of people who are still in the race
have to kind of ask themselves,
are they just going to slog it out until the very end
when there's still no chance?
What is their incentive at this point?
They've made their impact.
They've had their national TV moment.
at this point like they've made their impact they've had their national tv moment like why are people who have a zero percent pulling at zero percent sticking it out they think i think
they have enough money and feel like well i have i raised enough money to stay in the race at a
certain you know certain amount of time i can keep going but i think you never know like on these
debate stages some people have these moments and you could go from obscurity to just get a little bit of a bite and it's like just enough of a hit dopamine hit right like you know what i
maybe i'll come back for that you know what eric swalwell actually surprised me because i thought
that's what he was getting at in one of those the debates right before he dropped out right he called
out biden immediately yeah then he called out mayor pete for not firing that police officer you know he was kind of on a
roll and then like a week later he drops out of the race but i respect him for it too he took his
shots he took his shots he um got attention and then he said not yet he's like oh people hate me
well meanwhile john delaney really doesn't get it it's like dude go
yeah get out yeah you know at least joe biden has an excuse because he's his numbers like are
still strong but like john delaney's refusing to acknowledge that it's it's a wrap yeah so anyway
there are like two senate seats that a lot of people are looking at that could be actually
be very competitive
if people just drop out of the presidential race.
The first one is John Hickenlooper
to run for Cory Gardner's Senate seat in Colorado.
Hickenlooper is an ex-governor, and people like him.
And Gardner is as good as dead, basically?
Well, no, I mean, look, Colorado is a very left-leaning state.
He's a Republican.
He's a Republican. He's a Republican.
He's like one of those Republicans who says the right things about Trump.
When he's like, oh, that's disturbing.
But then fucking does nothing with his vote.
There's no meaningful stand against him.
Right.
So that's going to be a hard thing.
I feel like a charismatic Democratic candidate can just keep pointing to that.
Look what this person does in the face of this racism,
this xenophobia, all this other shit.
Nothing.
This isn't a human.
This is a parasite.
He's polling badly because he's basically on the right
but doesn't have Trump's grounds for populism.
I don't know what his polling numbers are.
I remember people talking about like even back in
2016 people or 2018 people talking about how he was vulnerable yeah no he's definitely vulnerable
uh yeah i think he's 42 percent anyways yeah he's he's definitely not strong and i think
basically when people even put hickenlooper on a like sort of like speculative poll saying if these
were Democrats running against Cory Gardner, who would you pick?
Hickenlooper leads by 51 percent or something like that.
Hickenlooper, I thought I read today that he's considering dropping out, which is basically
dropping out.
Well, yeah, I think because a lot of people are like there are ads basically begging him
to run for Senate.
Right.
And they're like, dude, you could fucking kick this guy's ass.
And also, this is what's really important is like, if there's any shot of chipping away
at the majority of the Republicans having the Senate.
Of course.
These are the seats that have to go from red to blue.
Right.
So the second seat being John Cornyn's in Texas.
Of course.
And everyone's like, Beto, please.
How's Beto going to run there when he's also the president
exactly dude i don't know can you be senator and president at the same time
sen is sensitive maybe dude predator predator i was so up for beto becoming president watching his
campaign in texas in uh, but it just...
It fell apart.
It really fell apart.
It's actually really interesting to watch
how that campaign just lost traction all of a sudden.
I think it was from him saying initially
that he wouldn't run for president.
Right.
And then him coming back and saying,
actually, I will.
And then doing a lot of emo posts on Medium.
Yeah.
In between that stream of consciousness.
He overexposed himself with his base while also just he wouldn't
go on cable tv so he wasn't like expanding his base but he was like streaming everything he's
like here's my dennis appointment did he do that yeah yeah he's so interesting but i love i mean
texas loves him i mean kid it's sort of, from what I've read,
it's like a Kennedy phenomenon.
Yeah.
Where people will run in the streets with him.
Like, people will just reach out to touch him.
Right.
Which I understand because he's like a skateboarder
and was in a band.
And he's really attractive.
But, yeah, I think it's time.
Yeah, well, I mean, he's really not polling well.
So there's not much for him to point
to to be like well actually oh yeah no i mean if his whole like just starting to swear and be like
the candidate who says what he's actually thinking if that doesn't like get him any
traction in the next couple weeks then it's time to move on i think right but also but he can't
just keep saying what the fuck press i even though i think we all like yeah it was amazing but i think that it's actually after
the el paso shooting i felt that even more he needed to be in the senate because he was like
a stalwart for texas yeah it was as if he was protecting texas and i think that everyone i
mean everyone in el paso is getting so annoyed with Trump. And it's sort of like, yeah, this is actually where you belong.
And you do so much for the state.
Yeah.
And I mean, Texas at the 2016 election was closer than Illinois.
You know, there was some crazy shifts happening.
That's the thing.
That's why everyone's like, please.
Like, John Cornyn is fucking not ready for Beto to go up against Beto.
I know he's nursing his wounds because he lost to a fucking
blobfish manila envelope face
guy, Ted Cruz.
Manila envelope face?
It's like flat and just
there's no form. Disgusting.
You forget it. Made him more disgusting
by the fact that he's just such an obvious
pushover. Right. It just
makes him even more unattractive. And those profiles
of his wife were amazing.
Yeah.
A, knowing that he demanded
the movie version
of A Whole New World
from Aladdin
play at their wedding.
Like, a band couldn't play it.
He demanded the CD version.
No, you don't understand.
And also the fact
that his wife
and his daughter
are both like,
shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
Yeah, when the daughter's like,
well, what happens
if dad becomes president?
She's like,
well, then I'll be the first lady. And it's like, but what about your job? I think she worked at Goldman Sachs or something, right? And she's like, what happens if dad becomes president she's like well then I'll be
the first lady
and she's like
but what about your job
I think she worked
at Goldman Sachs
or something right
and she's like
well no I wouldn't
work anymore
and she's like
mom you're smarter
than dad
what are you doing
and she goes
this sounds like
a bad deal for you
that's so amazing
it would be so hard
for me to get over
my husband supporting
someone who would
call me ugly
like that would have
been a big deal in my relationship yeah he didn didn't mean it like that heidi i can't even yeah but it
means it means cool on the streets um the thing is like when you look again like at texas obama
lost texas by like 16 points uh last time he ran hillary lost by nine beto lost by two and a half
points in 2018 and everyone's, we've talked about this
also. A lot of people on the right are very, very concerned about Texas actually becoming
rapidly more purple than blue. Because from an electoral college standpoint, if you don't have
those electoral college votes, you have no way to win it. That's actually a wrap. So that's why a
lot of people are like, please, if it's trending like this
and you only lost by two and a half points last time,
your profile is even bigger now.
Also like the fucking boost he would give
to down ballot Democrats.
Yeah.
Right, just by pulling everybody out.
Turnout's going to be wild either way.
But like, if you really, like,
if there's a real idea of like,
let's fucking change Texas for the better kind of thing.
Like that's why a lot of especially like yeah consultants and like lot like people
were like really invested in like the whole Senate math of it like just like
the police like this is this is another key key seat the one question I have is
I've heard that Beto a lot of his 2018 success was based on the fact that the entire Bernie
machine was basically mobilizing for him.
Oh, interesting.
So if he ran in 2020 a Senate campaign, would that work?
Because he wouldn't have that same infrastructure.
But he did just run a Senate campaign.
I do think he has a little bit more celebrity to him now.
Yeah, totally.
And I think even with the amount of out of state support
that came in too,
like if it was again to knowing that like Mitch McConnell's
fucking Darth Vader and like the way to defeat them
is by turning these seats,
like there could be a lot of national attention
that would help them too.
But one thing though,
is that John Corden is fucking scared to death he sent a fundraising email that said like please donate now because we've started on i'm not serious this is what it's called a stand
against beto fund yeah this guy is not even running for senate right and cornyn is already
fundraising off of this thing like that well i mean i'd hate
for him to run but he won't because of this but oh he better not yeah right he is shook daddy he
can probably just see the writing on the wall oh of course i mean yeah this is coming up there's no
way yeah and there's a lot of people retiring on the goP in Texas too. Like Will Hurd, him leaving.
Very much rats on a ship.
Yeah.
And I think the thing, it's like,
do I maybe eke out another win
only to be completely consumed in the next cycle?
Like, do I want to really go out
and have people like hold me publicly accountable for votes?
Yeah.
I mean, that's the thing too,
is that Mitch McConnell, I feel like five years ago, so fewer people knew who he was.
Yeah, well, yeah, right.
And now, like, he can't go anywhere.
And it's so amazing.
So I feel like that's going to happen more often.
Yeah, as people become more visible.
And I think that just shows how much more people are becoming engaged with politics, too, now.
It's like that people understand who the cast of characters is.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, I just feel like not enough people in Kentucky are.
Kentucky's, he's polling at 18%, though.
Is he really?
Yeah, 18% approval rating.
There was a, he did some kind of town hall thing, and there was a whole crowd of fucking.
Yeah, Moscow Mitchers. Yeah, like there was a whole crowd of fucking yeah yeah like it was
he it's it was crazy to watch yeah in a way we're like i mean not that that's where like the energy
is in kentucky i'm clearly energized people but like to just see a group of people him trying to
give like his lame ass boilerplate stump speech whatever it was such a boiler point it was like
really nice to see you everyone in kentucky and every day what's the best thing in the country best thing in the country
charismatic person like that i could imagine not just like he's not charismatic for a politician
he's the least like you can't imagine he's like his kids hate him too oh do they yeah they hate
him and they didn't want kavanaugh to get that Supreme Court seat. And they were really upset with him. Because they have a slightly developed moral sense.
They have a spine and a soul and a heart.
Right.
And then again, all it would take is somebody like, dude, what's up with your fucking dad?
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, you're right.
Well, that's the thing that I think is so interesting.
And I was just reading that book Educated by Tara Westover.
Anyway, it's a book about a girl who grew up in a doomsday family.
Right.
But it's all about how she sort of betrayed them by being educated because they think
that the government's public school system and the medical establishment are out to get
them, basically.
Is it a memoir?
Yeah, it's a memoir.
It's an amazing memoir.
But she talks a lot about, and then she ends up doing like, she goes to Brigham Young,
then goes to Cambridge, then goes to Harvard.
It's like unheard of. She's a crazy, she finishes a PhD like she goes to bring them young then goes to cambridge then goes to harvard it's like unheard of she's a crazy and all by she's finished as a phd when she's like 27 at cambridge so obviously i'm personally offended by that but she i know so
rude um but she talks a lot about what are your loyalties to your family versus your loyalties
to society you know what i mean it's like oh you have a loyal you have actually a purpose you have a loyalty or a service
you have to do for the world and just like coming out
against your dad publicly
seems so obvious at this point right
right yeah I mean like I love my
dad but if he was putting
concentration camps up I would have to
say hey hey
maybe on this one thing
maybe my dad sucks I'm gonna be
Fredo on this one thing maybe my dad sucks I'm gonna be Fredo on this one thing
I'm gonna go Fredo
yeah exactly
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where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them.
Why is that?
Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding
these two supernovas be sustained?
This game is only going to get better
because the talent is getting better.
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is Season 4 of Naked Sports,
where we live at the intersection of sports
and culture. Up first,
I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel
Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People
are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't
really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I
focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding
these two supernovas be sustained?
This game is only going to
get better because the talent is getting
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get your podcast and we're back and there is a diana princess die musical coming to broadway
it already seemed to me like a weird subject for a musical before I read this description.
So it says, at times, the play seems on the brink of doo-wop, kept transporting me back
to Memphis, and it's probably a different play.
On the bright side, Diana, staged by LaGioia Playhouse artistic director Christopher Ashley,
has a lively sense of humor about itself.
The tone is ironic, the pulse is fast-moving,
and the tragic ending isn't milked for tears.
So interesting.
Like, were they anticipating?
Like, you know, like the whole time,
like, oh, they're going to really fuck me up
with this ending, probably.
Like, maybe they do a once-upon-a-time
in Hollywood thing with it.
We're not going to even do it.
Oh, oh, right, right, got you yeah it just doesn't go in the direction you think you just get there extra fast right they're like wow
that was the paparazzi are eating a baguette like whoa it's also just about a woman who's so fiercely
private and soft-spoken and i'm i don't even think would have liked musicals maybe i'm wrong right
i mean yeah and the review makes it sound like it's like rockabilly like it's like
would it like princess dies life as imagined by skinner right um cleaning up a minefield
what the fuck like there's there's probably a whole dancing minefield. Yeah, exactly. What the fuck?
There's probably a whole dancing minefield number.
Yeah.
There's definitely, yeah,
a doo-wop number on the AIDS epidemic. Yeah.
Malnutrition, AIDS, mines.
She's really into demining.
Right.
But yeah, it really is an odd thing.
A, it's too close
to our memory
that like
it doesn't feel right
I would say too soon
I would say too soon
in a weird way
like Hamilton
like I get
like it's so far removed
like let's just make this
this weird ass time
I thought Hamilton
was too soon
too soon
yeah I was saying that
the whole time
that I was in the audience
you're like
he was Puerto Rican
I thought Jesus Christ
Superstar
was too soon
yeah way too soon
Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat?
Yeah, way too soon.
Just enough time.
Oh, really?
Les Miserables?
Les Miserables?
Yeah, yeah.
Big Victor Hugo fan.
But yeah, I think it really is.
I can't imagine a version where I'm like,
that was actually really good.
I have a feeling I would laugh the whole fucking time at this.
Yeah.
Then again, we didn't think
that the 9-11 musical
was going to be funny.
Yeah.
We were wrong about that.
So we'll see.
Tony Award winning musical.
Yeah.
Tomorrow We Dine in Hell
is the name of this next story.
Yeah.
Why else?
Well,
you know,
we always,
I always like to keep track
of what's going on
at the Olive Garden.
At the chain restaurant.
And also,
yes,
to everybody tweeting me
about Taco Bell giving money to Republicans, I already know. Here's a, at the Olive Garden. At the chain restaurant. And also, yes, to everybody tweeting me about Taco Bell giving money to Republicans,
I already know.
Here's just a quick aside.
That article is pointing to,
there's a PAC, Political Action Committee,
that's run by franchise owners
and other employees of Taco Bell.
So these are employees putting their own money together
to give.
It's not what Taco Bell gives as a whole.
With that said-
We will boycott those specific Taco out as a whole with that said we will boycott
those specific yeah but with that said yum brands does inordinately give to uh republicans but like
they're not huge spenders um but the head of taco bell absolutely does give uh to donald trump so do
without do that do with that what you will yeah like very like small small shit but again and then we talked
about this i think with was it billy maybe off mic about how like fucking everything that you're
buying is going to probably on a like uh if you really think about like the five companies that
own a lot of the shit you eat probably a good chance it's going to republicans although chipotle
gives a lot to democrats but i don't like Chipotle enough. Chobani yogurt.
Chobani yogurt.
Are they owned by Nestle, Dannon yet?
I don't know.
But their CEO is really cool.
Are they?
Yeah.
Great.
Well, then maybe not.
But anyway, yes.
And maybe I'll eat less Taco Bell and I'll eat more Popeye's chicken.
Taco Bell grade F meat.
Yeah, that's fine.
It's not meat though.
Dog food is grade D.
Yeah, okay.
Have you ever tried it?
Is that your point?
Yeah.
Have you ever tried it in a burrito?
Yeah, my dogs deserve better than me.
It's just a self-esteem thing.
Yeah.
So anyway, with this one, with... I mean, I'm surprised you haven't already fully made the switch
from Taco Bell to Olive Garden.
To Olive Garden?
Just being that you are now a senior Italiano.
And I could start on that, but I couldn't right now because it's just far too upsetting.
I could never mention Tuscany in the same breath as this abomination of Italian food.
But they are offering, so every year they do a pasta pass.
We talked about this last time because it was like, wait, it's like a movie pass, but
for Olive Garden?
Amazing.
This one, tomorrow, August 15th, it will debut. last time because it was like wait it's like a movie pass but for olive garden amazing this one
tomorrow august 15th it will debut now if you sign up if you're one of the first 50 people to
sign up for this year's pasta pass you will have an opportunity to instead buy the 400 lifetime
pass which means a lifetime this is verbatim from the website. A lifetime
of unlimited servings of pastas,
sauces, and toppings, plus
unlimited soup or salad and
breadsticks. I mean, that's where they
got me. Although, I guess the salad is
already unlimited.
They're saying the whole promotion, they're like,
it's supposed to be in line with our core values
of hospitaliano.
Hospitaliano. Hospitaliano. But yeah, good luck it's supposed to be in line with our core values of hospitaliano your family hospitaliano
but yeah like you know uh good luck to everybody trying to get that i wonder what i mean that seems
like good business no person even if they had a lifetime of olive garden i feel like if you did
like a morgan spurlock type like olive garden me right you would probably die by day four the lindsey lohan's family dina lohan
was given a year's supply of baskin robbins yeah which you would think is one of those things that's
more in oh how are you going to use that again right the family was using it so often and past
the year of mark that baskin robbins was listen, we're not giving you any more ice cream.
They could just go to a Baskin Robbins?
They would just go to Baskin Robbins,
get like birthday size tubs full of ice cream.
Rip.
And then take it home.
You gotta know who you're giving those pasts out to.
Actually, when I think about ice cream
is something I think I could very,
because you don't eat it every day,
but you could eat it every other day. I was like who are you
feeding? Not Lindsay?
Not little Allie Lohan?
Unless she was taking that with her to like the Middle East
in her peacekeeping missions.
Just turning that into some drugs
or something. Maybe. I don't know. Flipping it.
Flipping it. Shout out to Dina Lohan
my birthday twin. Is she your birthday twin?
Also Prince Harry.
That makes so much sense.'re all similar we're all just
combination of the two it's just the zeitgeist is swirling perfect blend of harry and dina that's
what if i was on a dating site that would be my profile half dina lohan half prince harry
totally miles 100 miles oh man man you should write a dating profile
for a living
that's good
my friend's
dad had
a Outback Steakhouse
like
free
like black card
or something like that
and we used
shit
like we abused
the shit out of that
wait so you could just
pull up
party of whoever
and you just had to
flash the card
yeah
what would you get
Alice Springs chicken
Alice Springs chicken
the
I really like the wings even though I know they're i've never had wings there they're good
they're like fried so yeah i like that yeah it's good it's they're not like wings but they're back
in later yeah yeah all right and finally we want to talk about cable because the the way we consume television is changing rapidly uh i think even the streaming services
are going to be extremely different a year from now now that it's basically each streaming service
is a channel i know it's weird it's like they're they're they used to be like four you only needed
and now they're gonna be 19 they're gonna have to do and then someone's gonna have to unify the 19 kingdoms again yeah but the right now the way like traditional subscription cable is falling off
is it's rapid yeah okay so the old way is going away yeah the largest the largest pay tv providers
saw subscriber losses more than triple to 1.53 million in the second quarter compared to last year's second quarter it was
only 420 420 dude but that was only like so it's rapidly rapidly accelerated last year the second
quarter was like catastrophically bad and they lost 420 000 customers and this year it one point one almost quadrupled yeah that's not good
i you know there there's like a weird thing now where like there's a bunch of uh streaming
services and networks having like disagreements like if you had uh like direct tv or at&t like
cbs was like we're not fucking putting any of our shit like you wouldn't have cbs suddenly yeah i
just lost cbs on my right uh and in your mind used to be like you wouldn't have CBS suddenly. Yeah, I just lost CBS on my...
And in your mind, you used to be like,
hold on, back in the day,
like cable was a guaranteed...
That was the only channel.
CBS was a guaranteed fucking channel.
CBS was the only one you could like count on
because like Fox would sometimes be there,
sometimes not, NBC,
but CBS was like the given.
It seems fucking absurd.
Anyway, and then HBO and Dish Network
were also like,
they were going back and forth on whether or not
they could show their content.
So it is this thing where like,
it's like a bunch of musical chairs now.
And I don't know like how it all ends up
because I already know once the Disney Plus thing happens,
there might be some cool shit on there
that I might entertain subscribing to that.
Right now I have Netflix.
I have Hulu.
I have, forgive me, Father me father direct tv now still i know
i should have bought it but they got me still because i have to keep watching 90 day fiance
and i did not need disruption in my service and then i'm probably going to end up getting
maybe the apple shit so the apple shit and the disney i see everyone subscribing to that
eventually yeah disney is very smart.
They immediately got Star Wars going over there. Right, right.
They also have a bunch of kids' movies.
Lady and the Tramp is going to be on there.
So they're building a business that immediately families are going to be watching.
All those fucking nerds are going to be watching that channel.
And then, sorry, I mean.
I count myself as one of those nerds.
And Apple, they just like loaded it with people like Jennifer Aniston, Reese Witherspoon. I count myself as one of those nerds and Apple
they just like loaded it with people
like Jennifer Aniston, Reese Witherspoon
Steve Carell
did you see that trailer?
I mean you don't see any of them
it's just like ominous shots of like the set
of this news show that it's supposed to be
like this morning TV show
and it seems dramatic I don't know
it was enough where like, if it's bad,
they did a good job of hiring.
So,
but I,
they have also,
it's always sunny though.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Apple does?
Yeah.
Huh.
And literally when,
I forget which cast member posted about it.
They were like,
we don't know what this is going to look like
or who's watching this necessarily
because it's just so new.
Right.
Yeah.
But,
given that it's Apple,
it'll probably do well.
So we'll get apple i'm
gonna have to get the nbc one from people who are like making series for apple right now that apple
is difficult to work with from like a like notes perspective they're used to hardware notes not
content yeah and they're starting to being like oh right we might like airing this under our name
might say something about our values right company was before we're like hey you know that square you paid a thousand dollars for
that's us yeah not like oh we're pro-life yeah you know and then it's like whoa what um but i think
yeah i also have hbo go i also need to see the office wherever that shows up because that's
leaving it's we're gonna be fucking h... The HBO Max was the one that I heard
that I was like, okay, I need that.
Right.
For sure.
Because that's got,
I think The Office is going there.
It's like all the Warner Brothers TV,
Warner TV shows.
Oh, right.
Or NBC, right?
Yeah.
Or Universal TV shows plus HBO.
Damn.
So I guess we'll see who wins the streaming wars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because eventually there's going to have to be some kind
of consolidation.
Well, Carolina,
it has been such a pleasure having you.
Thank you guys so much for bringing me to your hotel
room. Where can people
find you? So you can
catch me on iHeart's
The Ron Burgundy Podcast.
Every episode is released on
9 p.m. Pacific time on Wednesday nights. Yeah, yeah. It's aundy podcast. Every episode is released on 9pm Pacific time
on Wednesday nights.
It's a great podcast.
Check it out.
Is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
A tweet I've been enjoying?
Are you on Twitter?
I am on Twitter. I do not
do a lot of tweeting. I do a lot of retweeting.
I just sort of catch my news.
Natasha Rothwell, who's a really funny comedic actress just tweets at donald trump every day and says you are trash
which i enjoy um and then simone biles how do you pronounce the gymnast's name simone biles
um her floor exercises have been leading me to believe in God.
Oh, my God.
It's incredible.
You watch it in slow motion?
She seems like she has superpowers.
So she does an unprecedented triple-double on floor,
which I wouldn't know how to explain it to you,
so you would just have to watch the video.
But I do not know how people teach themselves to propel and then spin in the air.
Yeah.
Some things are just better left unknown.
Anyway, I'm going to figure it out.
Miles, where can people find you, man?
Find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray.
A tweet I like is from Reductress.
It says, why I stopped dressing for men and started wearing a loose necktie like Avril Levine in 2002.
That's really funny.
And another one that just says, mom, just letting you know, there's a stop sign up ahead.
Oh, my God.
When I was driving with my father-in-law, he kept, as he was directing me, was like,
okay, and then you're going to stop at the stop sign and then make a right and I was like
I know I want to stop at this. They're like hold on did you get some like
chain email on AOL that said
people my generation blow through stop signs
When that goes green you're going to want to go. It's more of a suggestion
Yeah. And green yeah exactly
red means go faster. A tweet
I've been enjoying. Adam
at Burger Crang tweeted damn dude
this night is good as AF
might fuck around and go gently into it.
Aww.
And Teresa Lee tweeted,
Okay, controversial opinion here, but I don't think we should live that long.
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We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com
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and our footnotes
where we link off
to the information
that we talked about
in today's episode
as well as the song
we ride out on.
Miles, what's that going to be?
Let's go out on
an unreleased
J. Dilla instrumental
from an album.
It's like it was released
on a few years ago
called J. Love Japan
and it's called Yesterday.
All right. Because we're all just thinking about yesterday.
Yeah.
Right?
Yes.
Exactly.
That's what the hotel bartender said when she looked at me.
She goes, thinking a lot about yesterday.
I was like, yeah, give me something with a kick.
All right.
That drink did not have a kick, by the way.
It didn't?
No.
I'm upset.
We'll continue this saga on the show in tomorrow's episode.
All right.
We're going to ride out on that.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
We will talk to you guys then.
Bye.
Bye.
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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball.
And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Every great player needs a foil.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Elf Beauty,
founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.