The Daily Zeitgeist - Sad Boy Tucker, Already With The Xmas Music? 11.12.18
Episode Date: November 12, 2018In episode 272, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Eric Lampaert to discuss the weekend box office, Ice-T never having eaten a bagel, China's new AI journalists, Trump claiming he doesn't know new ...acting attorney general Matt Whitaker, a look at Tucker Carlson's life, bloidwatch, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Ice-T Says Heās Never Eaten a Bagel2. Chinaās state-run press agency has created an āAI anchorā to read the news3. And here is future United States Attorney General Matthew Whitaker promoting advances in hot tub design for scammers World Patent Marketing4. Trump: Whitaker's past comments do not warrant recusal5. Trump claims he doesnāt know his new acting attorney general. A month ago he said he did.6. Mueller Has a Way Around Trump and His Minions7. āThey were threatening me and my familyā: Tucker Carlsonās home targeted by protesters8. Tucker Carlson Attacked the Idea of Diversity in His Latest Hate-Filled Rant9. Tucker Carlsonās Fighting Words10. Tucker Carlson Is Sorry for Being Mean11. Long before Fox News, Carlson was a La Jollan12. WATCH: Gavin McInnes and Tucker Carlson (The Daily Caller )13. WATCH: Hipster Girl - Sango & Xavier Omar Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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hey man just eat it that's all i gotta say uh well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
the hilarious podcast host improviser comedian movie comedian, movie star, Mr. Eric Lampere.
Thank you, gentlemen.
Hey, thank you for being here.
It's a pleasure to be back.
It's been too long.
I have to say, I'll tell you what I enjoyed about just the pre-record of this podcast.
What's that?
Was seeing how we ordered our coffee.
Yeah.
By ordered, I mean making ourselves.
Bored guests.
Don't give the people any idea.
Niles, you like cold brew?
I love a little bit of cold brew.
That was quite nice.
And then I saw you, and it was like a cup of Joe.
Cup of Joe.
Typical American.
Old-fashioned.
Out of the kettle.
Yeah, we were talking about that earlier today, actually,
that the reason that it's called Joe is because British soldiers in World War II,
you know, American soldiers were known as Joes, and only the
Americans drank coffee because it is bitter garbage water.
And the British were like, we drink tea, idiots.
So that's how it got the name Joe.
Boom.
A little lesson for you.
Eric, you had a sort of, I guess it would be an espresso.
A capso.
Yeah, it was an espresso.
Nespresi, as we call it.
I like to pretend like I'm Clooney.
Yes. What do you mean?
That's his
thing. That's his brand.
That's good for him. We all need a brand.
And mine is just uncut
concentrated cold brew. What do you think
my brand will be? If I ever made it
big, and I say if, when?
When? Don't use that limited thinking.
Let's ask the universe.
Check yourself, Tom.
Clooney in the streets, DeVito in the sheets.
That's what I'm saying.
That's not his brand, though.
What would be a product that I would sell?
Oh, oh, oh.
If you look at me and you're like, yeah, this would be perfect for Eric.
Some kind of designer sunglasses.
Oh, okay.
I quite like it.
I feel like some kind of lifestyle item.
Oh, okay.
I like that. Thank you very much. Because you have like a model's build you know what I mean oh yeah I think so that's again remember upstairs we're
talking about beauty lies in the eye of the beholder
that's true well you say that but I back in 2009 I did a commercial in the UK
that was so annoying that I was voted number five biggest cunt of 2009.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Is that part of like the British elections?
It's weird how the Prime Minister...
If you make it to number one, you become Prime Minister.
And basically what happened was that there were so many Facebook groups about how ugly I was that if you typed in ugly man on Google, I was on page two.
That's right.
I know that from not just because I Googled it.
I'm like, oh, yeah, I recognize you from that.
No, you've talked about that before on a podcast.
On a podcast I listened to, it probably wasn't this one.
I have no identity then.
I just keep repeating the same shit.
No, that happens on podcasts. If then. No, I remember that. I just keep repeating the same shit. No.
That happens on podcasts. If I was on page two of anything.
Everyone knows the date my parents split up, because I say it on March 7th anyway.
Don't worry about it.
It's really raw, though.
It really upsets me.
Nah, it's fine.
It was like 15 years ago.
He's over it.
Hey, why the fuck am I on trial, man?
You know what I mean?
Let's move on with the fucking show.
You know what I mean?
All right, Eric.
We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
But first, we're going to take our listeners through what we're talking about today.
We're going to do a quick box office review of what came out this past weekend.
We're going to talk about the fact that Ice-T has never had a bagel or a cup of coffee or seen the movie E.T.
We're going to talk about how the president should maybe take a cue from China and start investing in AI journalists
because China... They figured it out. They did. It's the first uncanny valley-less kind of AI I've
ever seen. I was like, yeah, that's a person reading the news. We'll talk about that. We'll
talk about how the president doesn't know Matt Whitaker, even though he just named him acting attorney general.
We're going to talk about the amazing disappearing caravan, that entire caravan that everybody was so worried about. There was a photograph of it at the top of Drudge for a week straight,
and now nobody's saying a single fucking word about it.
Well, because the midterms were a huge out.
Wait, what? What happened?
Nothing.
I thought it literally disappeared.
We're going to talk about how conservatives were cheering at the end of last week as climate
change killed everyone in Southern California.
They thought that was funny.
We're going to talk about Michelle Obama and her upcoming book and war of words with the
president.
We're going to talk the ballad of Tucker Carlson,
what his background is, where he...
We did a little bit of a deep dive
to try and figure out what the fuck's going on with that guy.
Papa John's is back in legal trouble.
We're going to talk about that,
and then we're going to do a deep dive,
Bloid watch into the sexiest men alive.
Obviously not going to be me, is it?
Hold on. You might be surprised.
You are not on this list.
Am I on your list?
Oh, yeah.
That's all that matters.
Number one in our hearts.
Replace Idris Elba with your face, Eric.
And that's My People magazine.
Spoilers.
Come on.
And please, if you could tell your lawyers, I am not going to sign that restraining order.
I won't acknowledge it.
Eric, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Hypnotherapy.
Ah.
I've just done some hypnotherapy via the internet.
How did it go?
Which was quite scary at first because I was like, I don't know who to trust.
Right.
Yeah.
You know, you don't want to go like, the therapy, you've got to drive, you've got to get there
and stuff like that.
Now it's just all online.
You can do it all online.
And it's pretty good, actually.
Really?
It genuinely worked.
It hypnotized you
Yeah yeah yeah
Like YouTube video
Yeah
So you gotta like
You know
You stick on the headphones
So it's proper surround sound
Yes
And you get relaxed
And you don't want anyone
To like come into your room
Right
And then
It's amazing how it works
Huh
Yeah
It was like over Skype
Or you just watched a video
It's a video
Oh shit
Yeah yeah
So you're self
Caring Yeah With YouTube hypnotherapy Yeah yeah I'm trying to like Better myself Yeah I like that I think it's pretty good or you just watched a video? It's a video. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. So you're self-caring
with YouTube hypnotherapy videos.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to better myself.
Yeah, I like that.
I think it's pretty good,
but I can't be bothered
to leave the house.
Yeah, yeah.
So you just go online
and trust, hope
that whoever's talking to me
on the screen
is not implanting me
with a secret mission
to kill everyone.
Is it a voice?
Is there someone on the screen?
There's someone on the screen,
but that could be doctored.
You don't know if that person's real.
Yeah.
Could be an AI from China.
It could be an AI.
And what did they hypnotize you into doing?
Erectile dysfunction.
Yeah, that's not funny.
That's not funny.
I have ED.
Generally, I was like,
I'm going to treat myself
to a little bit more confidence.
Hey, did it work?
Yeah, there you go.
It really does.
Oh, shit.
It's amazing.
Give me the link to that video. Yeah, yeah, I will, man, because it's like, I'm not ashamed treat myself to a little bit more confidence. Hey, did it work? Yeah, there you go. It really does. Oh, shit. It's amazing. Give me the link to that video.
Yeah, yeah, I will, man, because it's like, I'm not ashamed to talk about it.
That's awesome.
Either am I.
You know, some guys just need a little bit of help with the old penis.
With the old penis.
And I don't want to take a pill.
Right.
It's all in the mind, isn't it?
It's all in the brain.
Is it, though?
I don't know.
Well, let's just say that my penis is very thankful for the video.
Oh, well, again.
It's actually, it's always hard now.
I can't stop it.
I was going to say.
It's a real problem.
The blood is.
What is your other Google search?
Priapism?
What is something you think is overrated?
Overrated.
I would say.
Erection.
Oh, no.
Bloody brilliant.
Yes.
Overrated.
Well, clearly the truth is now overrated
the truth is overrated
for some people right
it's like
I don't know what's real
and what's not anymore
okay
you know
and it feels like
that's overrated
for most people
I don't think it is
have you really had your head
fucked that bad
that you don't know
what truth is
or you're just observing
a world in which
we seem like we're
in a post-truth world
yeah we're in a post-truth world
but do you
you yourself do know what the truth is I know what the truth okay i just want to make sure
does that even matter anymore i think it does yeah i think it does but yeah but i understand
because yeah we're increasingly moving into like uh all you have to be is like no no that's not
true yeah and then be like oh okay cool yeah it's terrifying moving on i'll try that with the police
next time yeah someone's saying that we should all watch the deposition of Trump from, I forget what year it was. I think it was like 2013 or something,
where he was being deposed by someone who was suing him. And the lawyers actually had all his
lies lined up. They knew what he was going to lie about. And so they would just like get him to lie and then be like, actually, here's proof that that's a lie.
And then just like you can see his brain,
like how he lies and is just like constantly,
he just never stops for a moment.
He'll just be like, oh, okay.
And then make up another lie,
like just from one to the next, to the next.
Isn't that amazing as well?
He lies so much that he's created his own reality, right?
And it's constantly shifting. So you can't get your balance. Right. But does he know that he's created his own reality right and it's constantly shifting
so you can't get your balance right but does he know if he's lying or not that's what that's what
i don't think he cares right i think it just doesn't like practically it does not matter to him
so that's an amazing life to live isn't it yeah you should be able to lie your way out of literally
any situation it's funny because i watch a lot of kitchen nightmares.
Shout out to Gordon Ramsay.
And there are a lot of like restaurant owners who have the same sort of mentality of like,
I'm not doing anything wrong with my restaurant.
All of these customers are wrong.
Yeah.
And you can see how that slowly, like Ramsay's able to break them down because he can just
be very blunt and be like, hey, you fucking idiot.
If the restaurant was that good, where are the fucking customers?
So shut the fuck up and then eventually like they break then they just they have a moment where they're like you're fucking right and i feel like you know i don't there's
no one there to really brutally challenge him like that where he's gonna have to like i feel
like everyone when he lies they're just like fuck it just don't even say you should just send golden
ramses to the white house then exactly i mean jim acosta i think is the closest thing which makes
him uncomfortable and that's why he's just like,
get him out of here. Yeah. Jim Acosta
is no Gordon Ramsay also. No, no.
I mean, he should be fucking full on
just cursing at him. Yeah. That's what he needs.
Somebody just shake the shit out of him. But it's not gonna happen.
No. I think there's this
myth out there to jump ahead a couple
that I've noticed is that Trump
has like an interior life
like an ordinary human being.
But he's just like a very simple machine
that is just like lie, lie, lie.
Just generating as much,
generating the truth that is most beneficial to him
at all times.
Yeah.
Self-preservation is the name of his game.
Yes.
Constantly.
What is something you think is underrated?
Have you guys ever seen Johnny Mnemonic?
Oh, Keanu Reeves?
Yeah.
Oh, fuck yeah, I've seen Johnny Mnemonic.
I watched it for the first time this week, and my mind is blown away by this terrible
but brilliant movie.
Really?
It's so, so bad.
I think it's in the early 90s, and Keanu Reeves can put information in his brain.
It's a little bit Matrix-y.
It feels like he got the Matrix role from that movie.
He's a data courier.
Yeah, so you can put some information in his brain,
and then he travels with it.
This was before USB jump drive.
Right.
So he's like a thumb drive?
Yeah.
They load him up with a bunch of proprietary info,
and they're like, okay, now go to China.
Like Hong Kong.
And download. But it was something pretty cool, okay, now go to China. Like Hong Kong. And download.
But there was something pretty cool, far out ideas in there.
Oh, yeah.
It was based on a book called, I think, Necromancer, is it?
And there was some pretty great predictions about where the future was leading.
Right.
But then there was some weird, near the end, Jesus comes and he fights you.
Oh, weird.
Jesus fights Keanu, and then he has like upload all his information in the internet dolphin.
So there's a dolphin that's made of internet.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, no, they nailed everything.
It sounds like.
I mean, that's.
It's the kind of film that you watch once and you're angry that it got made.
And you're like, well, I'm going to want to watch it again.
Right.
Because it's the best thing that's ever happened.
You know what's funny?
That movie was set in the year 2021 wow so we got two years everybody two years to invent the
internet dolphin motherfuckers hurry up jump drive yes all right and finally what is a myth
what's something people think is true you know to be false um i actually don't know guys i don't i
don't actually have one you don't know i'm supposed
to become one but i'm like what is a myth and what is not a myth how about there's a myth i
think out there that it's always sunny in philadelphia is no longer on because i didn't
know that the that the show was out and making good episodes but you came in today and we're like
oh my mind was blown by the latest episode always it was so good the
perfect mix of comedy and then like just out of nowhere takes you to this emotional powerful scene
and it was almost it was cinematic it went from comedy to like this cinematic piece and then you
see danny danny devito who's this incredible grotesque performer you know and by grotesque
i mean you know this sort of yeah buffoon disgusting oh yeah outrageously grotesque performer you know and by grotesque i mean you know this sort of yeah
buffoon disgusting oh yeah outrageously grotesque and then he just come out comes out of nowhere
with this you can see why he's a veteran right it's just blown away and you end up i ended up
crying i just this art this piece of art it was a piece of art to not have a single joke for about
six minutes in a comedy show right and to earn it
to like really like kill it with no jokes yeah it was uh oh it was amazing so it's always funny
still out there still out here doing it you're literally rubbing your chin like really i guess
how about that i guess that show's still on that's how i felt about the nathan for you
series finale or season finale or maybe it's not the series finale.
That was another moment where I was like,
whoa, this comedy show just made me feel
every range of emotion possible.
That was incredible.
I watched all of them like two months ago.
I'd never heard of Nathan For You.
Oh, yeah.
That guy Bill from the last episode
used to go to the supermarket I went to growing up.
Oh, wow.
And I recognized him.
Last time I was there, I saw him and got a photo.
I even got a little teary
at the end of the Adam Sandler special.
That was a great special.
100% fresh.
Yeah.
It was nice and silly,
like exactly what we all bloody need right now.
Yeah.
This bloody silliness.
Yeah.
Just get silly.
Agreed.
All right, guys.
Let's talk about what came out last weekend,
this past weekend.
What the world needs now is a third Grinch movie.
We haven't had enough.
There was the live action one with Jim Carrey.
There was the classic animated one.
We need another one that is also computer animated this time, I guess.
Who's the voice?
Benedict Cumberbatch, I think.
Got it.
Really?
Yeah, I think it is.
Yeah.
Wow.
He's in now.
He's totally in.
Yes.
Suddenly.
I do have to say, I quite like the sort of commercials and the billboards I see around
Los Angeles.
They're a bit cheeky.
Like there's one that's like, oh, you're moving to Los Angeles, are you?
Good luck with your dream.
And I'm like, fuck you, Grinch.
Goddamn.
Wow.
It really like gets to your core.
Right. And depending on where you are in Los Angeles, he'll. Like, goddamn. It really, like, gets to your core. Right.
And depending on where you are in Los Angeles,
he'll reference, like, sort of the local area, it feels like.
Oh, where are the other ones?
Like, is there one in Silver Lake, probably?
There's a few around, but it's like, yeah,
it'll say something to the reader.
Like, hey, welcome to Los Angeles.
It's like, oh, North Hollywood.
You just moved here.
Huh.
Yeah, the marketing was interesting and cheeky, as you say.
I made that sound natural, right?
Welcome to America meets England.
Yeah.
Cheeky, as you said.
Was there a butt in it?
But it seems early for a Christmas movie.
And also, I just don't need another Grinch movie.
But does it feel early to you guys for a Christmas movie?
I don't know.
Didn't the radio change the Christmas music on November 1st almost?
Yeah, basically.
The decorations are in already.
Yeah.
Who cares?
I'm sick of time.
It's just a bloody loop every year.
Oh, it's Christmas again, is it?
Can't we just invent a new holiday every year?
Super producer Nick Stumpf came in with the Mariah Carey Christmas song stuck in his head.
Yeah. That means it's Christmas.
That's like the hedgehog or the groundhog of the Zeitgeist Studios.
Oh, when it creeps up?
Yeah.
When Nick comes in with the Mariah Carey All I Want for Christmas song.
I mean, he does hit those high notes pretty well.
And it is a great song.
It is a great song.
That's what I said.
And then we started going around.
God, and this is how fucking early I'm like, what's your favorite Christmas song?
I know.
It's fucking early November still.
In the UK, Rage Against the Machine is actually a Christmas song.
Which song?
Wait, which one?
Killing in the Name of, right?
Huh.
What?
Because it was a few years ago, one of the winners of x factor or
something was going to be like the number one you know every time the winner comes around christmas
and his single always becomes his or her single always becomes number one right and the uk just
had enough of it they were like right this we're fucking annoyed with x factor and so there was a
campaign to get uh killing name of number one number of number one, and we got it to that.
That's amazing.
And so it was really funny on radio.
They were like, and now Christmas number one.
Killing in the Name of.
That's a big cultural thing in the UK, right?
What the number one song on Christmas is, for some reason.
That's like a big deal. I mean, I didn't know it was a big deal. That's like a big deal.
I mean I didn't know it was a big deal
until they made it a big deal.
And then I'm like yes I'm so glad that someone
was like I'm sick of this.
I mean I just assumed it was
a big deal because of
the documentary Love Actually
I believe they referenced that.
That being a big deal. Like having the
Christmas number one.
I mean, yeah.
When I hear words like, you know, you justify those that died by wearing the badge.
They're the chosen whites.
Feels like a Christmas lyric to me.
Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.
Yeah.
I mean, it all makes sense.
I see Jesus in the manger and all that.
Miles, what's your favorite Christmas song?
My favorite. Okay. I was talking about this. makes sense i see i see jesus in the manger and all that miles what's your favorite uh oh my
favorite okay i was talking about this the andy williams happy holiday is i like that one it's so
fucking corny happy holiday and that one and uh yep yep i know all the words uh that one and also
i like the paul mccartney one for whatever reason.
I noticed that people don't like that song.
The widely agreed upon worst Christmas song?
Have yourself a wonderful Christmas.
Or whatever that one.
Yeah, that one.
Wonderful Christmas time.
Oh, I kind of like that one.
Yeah, I don't mind it.
Why do people think because it's so not Christmassy?
Wonderful Christmas time.
I don't know.
It just seems like it's like five notes over and over again.
Yeah. But so is Feliz Navidad, like it's like five notes over and over again. Yeah.
Yeah.
But so is Feliz Navidad, and that's one of my other favorite ones.
If Feliz Navidad comes on, I could probably in one gulp drink a fifth of tequila.
So fucking pumped up.
I only heard it for the first time last year.
It just gets your fucking shit.
Feliz Navidad.
Yeah, see?
Everybody's shoulders are popping out.
See?
It does something.
It's great.
And it's still November guys
Look what the fuck they did to us
We don't know what time of year it is anymore
I like the Ron Nets Christmas song
I like the SNL Christmas song
Horatio Sons Christmas
I feel like every month should have a song
You know
December's got Christmas
January should be like hey okay new vibes new
years yeah obviously romantic love march political yeah there you go march march right uh april
easter there you go watch out that rabbit's coming along he's gonna steal your eggs what's that one
hello easter you just made oh you just made that up yeah yeah. Watch out for Christmas. We got a hit, baby.
Hello, Hollywood.
What is the
Christmas Ronettes song called?
Nick, you know this.
I guess it's not the Ronettes. It's Darlene
Love. The song is called
Christmas, parentheses, baby, please
come home.
There's also that George Michael song,
Last Christmas. That is good.
What else is coming out this weekend, guys?
Outlaw King hits Netflix.
Yeah.
Hits home theaters.
That's the one with Chris Pine's penis?
Yeah.
Apparently it is.
Why specifically his penis?
Well, I remember like-
It's shown in this.
Yeah.
It is the Outlaw King.
No, when it was like I think at the Toronto Film Festival,
that's everyone was talking about.
They're like, and then there's a movie with Chris Pine's dick, you can see.
And apparently it is.
Does it add value to the story?
It is in the genre of shame, the Michael Fassbender film,
because it is an impressive penis.
Well, they say, but now the version now, it's blurry now.
So you don't get the full on cocky.
You don't get the full dick.
Also, you know, it might just be a little bit of a trick because I've had to get naked on stage and stuff before.
And obviously before you go on, you just like you move it about a bit.
Just let the blood flow.
Just to give yourself a little bit more of a size before you.
Bit of a wank.
Well, not a wank.
You don't wank before you go on set.
But like just a little fiddle.
I do that before I even look in the mirror, just so I feel good about myself.
Just have some hypnotherapy.
I'll tell you what, I have such confidence.
I can do it to you now.
You're feeling heavy, sleepy.
Wow.
Yeah.
I'm not very good at it.
My dick in particular?
Whatever it is, yeah.
So this is, I assumed this was one of the seven robin hood movies that are in
development currently in hollywood and it's not there who's it about even i just i literally only
know it's a chris pine's dick movie so robert the bruce character from uh braveheart who like
stabs braveheart in the back uh and then... All historically inaccurate, by the way. Yeah, totally.
Completely inaccurate, but...
Because Scotland doesn't exist, right?
It's not real.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Okay, moving on.
Yeah, that's a fictional made-up island.
Right, right, right.
Fictional made-up island of Scotland.
I'm sorry.
But it's basically the story of Robert the Bruce
leading Scotland's revolt against lung shanks.
Does Chris have a British accent in it?
Oh, no.
Scottish.
Or is it all American?
It's like Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves
with Kevin Costner.
It's great.
It's a great film.
We nailed it on that one.
Am I right, Eric, with the accent?
Did he even do an accent?
He did for the first couple shots
Right, right, right
And then it was just like
Yeah, I don't know about it
Hey, don't worry, you're Kevin Costner, man
Hey, what do you want from me, huh?
And then finally, Twitter at the end of last week
Was going nuts about iced tea
Yeah
Not the beverage, the man
The rapper
Because for someone named after a caffeinated beverage
He has never had a cup of coffee.
He has never had a bagel.
And he's never seen E.T.
Yeah.
I don't, you know, I think most people are surprised because most people have had bagels.
But Ice-T strikes me as somebody who would be like, I ain't eating that shit.
Yeah.
Like, he's just not fucking with a bagel.
He likes jelly donuts.
He was clapping back on a bunch of people on Twitter who were like, oh, you're actually eating not fucking with a bagel he likes jelly donuts he was clapping back on a
bunch of people on twitter who were like oh you're actually eating a cinnamon raisin bagel he's like
tv is make-believe and you're like okay god damn my character was eating yeah thank you so much i
was just trying to embody mr t yeah our ice tea actually he's in johnny mnemonic that's right he
plays a pretty wild character that's like he like, I live up there in heaven.
And he's weird.
It's great.
His name is J-Bone in Johnny Mnemonic.
Interesting.
Yeah.
That was interesting at the beginning of Ice-T's acting career when people didn't necessarily
know what to do with Ice-T in a movie.
Because he started out as an action hero.
There was that, it was like Hard Target, but starring Ice-T.
Yes, what was it?
Oh, man, there's so many.
Surviving the Game?
Yes.
Yeah.
Anyways, Ice-T, never had a bagel,
despite spending a lot of time in New York, from what I understand.
Yeah, maybe it's one of those things where he doesn't want to do it now,
at this point.
He's gone too long without having one,
that he doesn't want to give anyone the satisfaction
of giving him his first bagel. Eric, we've talked about this before on the show but
is there anything very you know common that everybody has done that you have not done
i don't think there's anything that i haven't done because i'm i'm pretty much a bit of a yes
man oh oh i get peer pressured and bullied very easily into submission. Have you seen the Jim Carrey movie, Yes Man? Yes.
And I also read it by Danny Wallace.
Oh, right.
Yeah, I'll pretty much do anything just to try it out.
Something is quite important.
You've got to try things out.
See if it's your vibe.
See if it's your flavor.
You can't corner Eric, man.
He's done it all.
He's seen it all.
Any food you've never tried?
Is there food you've always wanted to try?
No, I'll put everything in my mouth. I'm French, but we eat everything. He's done it all. He's seen it all. Any food you've never tried? Is there food you've always wanted to try that you've never tried?
No, I'll put everything in my mouth.
See?
I'm French, but we eat everything.
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And so we all felt the chill realizing that we are soon going to be replaced by AI because late last week, China released a video of an AI-generated news anchor who is basically indistinguishable from an actual speaking human being. Yeah.
I mean, they basically took existing footage of an anchor and then used that to make him a puppet essentially like with facial
expressions and everything using machine learning the voice you can tell because it's so synthesized
you thought it was a is but is the body is the body like a real robot android or is it a it's
like a deep fake like where it's animated video like i'll just you can see that's sort of what
it looks like that looks amazing so it's basically it looks it looks exactly like yeah it looks like
a person uh if you look at the mouth you can kind of see little sort of what it looks like. Oh, that looks amazing. So it's basically just... It looks exactly like real life. Yeah, it looks like a person. If you look at the mouth,
you can kind of see little sort of things here and there.
But, you know, it's still learning.
And this is a technology game.
I guess they're developing...
But also, is it an AI that's only designed for journalism?
I think this is more just to under...
Like, the AI is more around presenting a human-looking thing
that you can then just make parrot whatever quote unquote news you needed to.
Because I did, when I was in the UK, I did a show called How to Survive a Disaster Movie.
And I had to go on a date and I was presented as the AI. So I went on a blind date with three
people and they were told, you can keep asking him questions. He'll take a while to answer
and then he'll answer, right? And that's because I had a little earpiece and whenever they asked me a question, the
producer would put that question in this AI and then feed me the answer that I, and it
was always very weird answers because the AI wasn't human.
Right, right, right.
And I responded quite weirdly and anything to do with emotions or whatever, you know,
the AI was really struggling.
Right, right, right.
And that's the Alan Turing test to see, you know, whether, you know.
Yeah, can it successfully mimic us?
But yeah, I think-
But it's going to get there.
Yeah.
Right.
It's close.
It's very exciting.
There's a book called Life 3.0 by Max Tegmark, who talks about-
Who is a robot himself.
He could be.
Max Tegmark.
Yes.
Max Hedrums.
Max Voltage.
He talks about how AI is going to-
It could go in so many different paths right now.
And we're still sort of in control of the path that it could take.
It could go very much like we're in control of it.
And if we're in control of it, is it conscious?
Because if it's conscious and we're trapping it, then is that torture?
Like we'd be trapping this conscious thing.
If it's not conscious, if it's just a zombie system, that's AI, then that's fine. We can use it. Like Siri's not conscious if it's just a zombie system that's AI then that's fine we can use it like Siri's not conscious or is she so it's really like
weird because we don't even know what consciousness is yeah so what can we do
with AI at some point what is it gonna be like is it gonna be alive and if it
is what can we do Siri are you conscious? Well, I do journal every day. Okay, fuck off.
All right.
Fuck off with your cute little lines, Siri.
She's fine.
Get back in your box.
We've successfully mimicked an asshole, Siri.
On the other hand, we do have the functional equivalent of this with Wolf Blitzer in America
because he's a dumb person who will say anything you put into his teleprompter.
Yeah, I mean, I think this whole thing is kind of freaky, though, because when you think of, like, China,
just sort of a country that loves censorship and loves, like, obscuring actual news,
like whether it's, you know, people who are, you know, dissident voices or just trying to, you know,
obscure, like, the oppression of the, like, Muslim Uyghur community there.
You know, I can see how now they're like,
okay, let's just fucking completely remove this from human beings
and we can just make it a human Twitter account.
Yeah, it's quite scary because it depends how it's programmed, right?
Because if it's still under control of the humans,
then essentially it's not AI.
Well, yeah.
Well, I think the AI,
I think they're just using the machine learning
to mimic human facial expressions in a video sense.
They're still feeding it the words that it has to perform.
So in that way, it's not creating the news, but just more like, hey, we don't even need humans anymore to be journalists.
Pretty much every single job is going to go to AI at some point, which is pretty exciting because if the governments get it right and give us the free time, like if there's a basic universal income, which I think America will be last to do.
Of course.
It always feels like that.
Like the basic universal income is already coming into like some European countries.
Yeah.
I think Netherlands is doing it or Denmark, something like that.
Like a pilot program or justā¦
Yeah.
Right.
Try it.
And just in a very located small area.
Well, they've done it in California.
They were doing it in one town in California,
and I know in Canada they were doing it as well.
I mean, there are places trying it,
but I know you mean like, yeah,
like in terms of actual,
like at the federal level,
they're going to be like,
get back to work, slaves.
And I mean that in the capitalistic sense,
not the, you know, antebellum South sense.
Yeah.
All right, let's talk about Matt Whitaker.
He is currently the acting attorney general
of these United States. Who said that? And the president. The president announced Matt Whitaker. He is currently the acting attorney general of these United States.
Who said that?
And the president.
The president announced that he is.
Yeah.
Actually, wait.
Sorry.
Now, don't quote me on that.
So the president says of his appointee, I don't know Matt Whitaker.
Who's Matt Whitaker?
I don't know who he is.
So, yeah, even though he's been to the White House many times,
he's a person who the president even though he's been to the White House many times,
he's a person who the president has said he enjoys a rapport with or who people have said he enjoys a rapport with.
And the president just appointed him, again,
to lead the U.S. Department of Justice.
But when people were like, yeah,
but there's some reasons to be skeptical of this,
he's like, I don't know the guy.
Right.
Which is so funny. Is this the guy right which is so is this the
guy that's taken over from sessions yes right he's a man taken over and has a really hilarious
background like he was caught up in some scheme for some company that was doing like patent law
or whatever like where you if you had an idea for an invention like this company would help you to
like patent it and take it to market and everything and like i think they had to settle some 25 million dollar claim or something against the
company this guy is just kind of an all-around like weirdo moron kind of guy seems to suit this
administration doesn't it yeah and he has some hot takes on the constitution too so i mean yeah i
think all of these things have come out a lot of people are pointing to the fact that like this
person seems wholly unqualified not to mention you completely skip the line of succession at DOJ to replace Jeff Sessions.
And it's caused like rumblings, I think, in the White House Politico, I think was reporting how like the White House was just so surprised that people were like paying attention to how little experience he had or that he might be a bad fit or that this may be an illegal appointment.
But, you know, such is to be expected, I think, from the White House.
When is this going to stop, by the way?
When is Trump going to just get stopped?
Because I'm getting bored of this now.
Yeah.
We'll see.
Bit much.
2020.
That's part of the danger is that we all get bored with it and we're just like,
yeah, we'll deal with it later.
This is exhausting.
And then nobody reads about it anymore and he just rides roughshod.
Well, yeah.
I mean, luckily, you know, people ā I think enough people have enough at stake with this president that everyone is being very vigilant or at least on the activist level.
So, you know, I think the answer is not a simple one.
But I think we'll see, you know, depending on what Robert Mueller cooks up.
I made it very simple.
Come on.
When is this going to stop now?
I'm tired of it.
Take me off this ride.
Now, whenever I try and bring Matt Whitaker to my mind's eye, that character is played by Michael Chiklis.
They look very similar to one another.
Yeah.
In that sense, I don't know who Matt Whitaker is either.
No, I don't even think he knows.
Yeah.
So there is some hope. The architects of the strategy used in the Nixon impeachment have pointed out that the grand jury has the ability to circumvent the acting attorney general because they're basically part
of the judicial branch and therefore you know the executive doesn't get to tell them whatever
their agenda is right oh so you're saying like yeah if he totally tries to kneecap the muller
thing the grand jury can still put a report together of what they saw what was presented
to them and show that to congress and matt wh Whitaker can't do a damn thing about it.
That's right.
Possibly.
Possibly.
I mean, you know, the other funny thing about this whole thing, too, was among all of the his background and real lack of experience was the fact that he's so he has so many connections to the Mueller investigation, whether it's through Sam Clovis or other things that like everyone's like, hey, recuse yourself.
whether it's through Sam Clovis or other things that like everyone's like, hey, recuse yourself, you know.
And and President Trump, when they asked him about it, he gave like the fucking dumbest response where they're like, this guy is working with somebody who's a witness. He was like he's palling around with Sam Clovis, who's a witness in this.
This is not a conflict of interest. And when asked about him being recused, he couldn't really give a good answer.
And when asked about him being recused, he couldn't really give a good answer.
And then other people were like, you know, this guy's on TV on top of everything out loud, you know, vocalizing that he thinks the Mueller investigation is a complete sham or whatever. Like this clearly seems like a bad choice.
And this was his defense of Matt Whitaker.
First of all, when you make comments, I see everybody on television, all these lawyers, all these law enforcement people making comment after comment.
They never ask to get recused.
They make comment.
What?
What does that even mean?
They make comment is how he ended that statement.
He sounds like a beat poet.
Yeah.
But he.
So he was saying people criticize me on TV and they don't have to recuse themselves.
So he doesn't understand that he didn't just appoint everybody on TV as the acting attorney general?
Is that what?
I mean, to recuse means to remove someone from a position of judicial authority.
Right.
So being a guy on TV making a i don't know i guess the point he's making is
okay so he said something on tv therefore i can't use anybody who said any kind of thing on tv
which is like well that's not true it's just someone who is going to oversee an investigation
that is that needs to be seen as uh as an objective sort of
non-partisan thing you can't have that person being like oh this is fucking bullshit wait wait
you know this thing needs to end like that could be the problem and on top of that people who have
appeared on tv are what a half a percentage of the you know numerous people that could be uh
involved in any of these things or how about You know, you just follow the line of succession and you have Rod Rosenstein.
Right.
But whatever.
You know, because it's so clear what he's trying to do that I guess he has to rely on
these like really lame arguments.
I've never commented on TV about the investigation, Miles.
Oh, shit.
You've never commented on TV?
We have commented on podcasts.
Yeah, it was different.
He doesn't know about this.
I was going to say, you know you were asking me about myth earlier on.
Yes.
Like, people believe that 9-11 was an inside job and stuff.
And obviously, you know, because you'll never know.
But if the government can do 9-11 but still can't take Trump out,
I feel like they didn't do 9-11.
Yeah.
It feels like it'd be easy to take out Trump somehow.
This has rendered most conspiracy theories about the U.S. government moot.
Right?
I think.
Well, I guess then you say, but where's the profit motivation?
You know, 9-11, you get pretext for war.
Right.
And that fires up the war machine, the military industrial complex.
Right.
If Trump isn't president, who makes the money then?
Miles is doing a voice.
Answer me that.
I don't know, man.
Have you seen loose change
bro you seen loose change yeah check out loose change listen to the joe rogan podcast uh check
out loose change and go back to freshman year of college so we want to talk about tucker carlson
he's in the news because antifa activists just staged a protest outside his family home uh which
is totally fine uh however, they did try and
knock down his door and cracked
the door according to statements.
According to him.
But there are a lot of people who were there who took
photos are like, there's no damage to the door.
So that was like a thing that
he put out there as if it was
you know, that was going on.
It's like accosting that woman
with his karate chop
that nearly blew her arm off.
And you can
we're we've talked
on the show before I think we've
even had quotes where he's talking about
how you know conservatives
are being assaulted and
his version of being assaulted is being
yelled at while they're out to eat.
But anyways we have long been fans of Tucker Carlson here on the daily zeitgeist.
And something that we came across earlier this week that we had to ask our
writer,
J.M.
McNabb to dig into is where do we find this out?
The Tucker Carlson Wikipedia,
Wikipedia,
great research by the folks of Wikipedia.
Well done.
Let us know that Tucker Carlson's mom
left the family when he was six years old
to go be like a hippie in Europe, essentially.
Yeah, in France.
To go live the bohemian lifestyle in France.
Oh, good for her.
He is a comic book villain
with like a villain origin story where he was wronged by hippies.
Hippie, dumb.
They stole his mother, yeah.
The call of liberalism, just the smell of a pie in a cartoon came all the way over to
San Francisco and pulled his mom over to France by her nose.
Petit Tucker Carlson, je te dis au revoir.
All those words.
What was he saying?
I'm sorry, little boy, I'm leaving you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see.
I get that.
Francophone, you know what I mean?
Francophone.
Yeah.
Wesh, boy.
But his dad was also originally a Democrat
and then met Reagan and was like,
ooh, this seems like it would be more beneficial
for me to be a
Republican.
And so, you know, transferred parties.
But his dad also married a heir to the Swanson throne.
Yeah, the frozen dinner people.
Big frozen dinner.
And they're big liberals, too.
They're big liberals.
So it's basically all him just being like, screw you, mom.
My mom left to be a French fucking hippie liberal.
My stepmom's a fucking liberal rich fuck.
And I'm going to wear bow ties.
So, exactly.
And be so angry at them.
And he has been asked about this in interviews before.
They've been like, so, I mean, this happened in your past.
Like, do you think this had anything to do with the fact that you are, you know, a monstrous hate spewing white supremacist?
And he said, it's a totally bizarre situation, which I never talk about because it was actually not really part of my life at all.
His mom leaving the family.
That's a direct quote, by the way.
That wasn't you.
That was me not going off prompter, but reading a direct quote from Tucker Carlson talking about his mom leaving the family. That wasn't you. That was me not going off prompter, but reading a direct quote from Tucker Carlson
talking about his mom leaving the family
and not being a part of his life.
Creating himself a different reality.
This is amazing. This is why, in a
way, I want to join the Republicans.
Because any time there's a problem, they'll just
say, I know you are, but what am I?
And then just move on.
And it's like, that's not how we deal with situations.
Oh, I know you are, but what am I? But what about, we deal with situations. Oh, I know you are, but what am I?
But what about, no, I know you are.
I know you are, but what am I?
No, you're an emotionally scarred human being.
I know you are, but what am I?
Okay, never mind, Tucker.
But yeah, when you break it down, the quote, the answer was a totally bizarre situation.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
How is your describing your mother abandoning you as a totally bizarre
situation like where you're like oh yeah so weird huh right but it doesn't matter like i that will
contribute to some deep yeah but also but here's the fence right so my mom abandoned me when i was
15 right right and so when that happens you don't really think about it you just get on with it
okay that's fucking weird and you just get on with it and that, sure, sure. Okay, that's fucking weird. And you just get on with it. And that's why I'm doing therapy now.
Like loads of little things
about me dealing with my issues in the past.
Right.
But for a good 10, 15 years
when people were saying,
Eric, you probably need some therapy.
I was like, no,
I don't know what you're talking about
because for me it's normal that she had left.
I was like, well, that's just my reality.
Like your mom didn't leave you?
Right.
Can I take it?
Oh.
And so like in a way it's like,
it's not even, so when he says like it's, in a way it's like, it's not even,
so when he says like,
it's a bizarre situation,
it's like,
yeah,
it's quite weird.
Like,
you know,
like when she left,
my dad left also,
I was homeless for four years
and people go,
oh,
that's weird.
And I go,
well,
it's normal,
isn't it?
Yeah.
No,
this makes me,
this makes me have empathy for him,
which is something he's incapable of having
for anyone else.
Just picturing any six year old.
And this is, this kind of goes back to our original point that we were making about like we don't you can kick tucker
carlson's door down if it's just his apartment but you got to feel bad for he has four kids
they're probably terrified but the other side of that too is right he is engaging in very fucking
dangerous rhetoric that is making people's
lives miserable in some instances costing them their lives if you're a motherfucking drug dealer
and you got your kids at your house that's on you because you know what the fuck you're doing
and the danger that you put your family in and doing that i'm not to say that it's justified
but he has to know you're not impervious to people being fucking upset with you because you have four
kids or whatever.
And I'm not saying that the kids are complicit in any of this.
But like at the same time, he needs to also be aware that his actions could potentially put his family in danger from just like any other person who,
whether it's a journalist on the left who has hot takes on Trump and gets sent a mail bomb.
You don't know how people are
going to respond to you. Right. But that is a thing that we should not be in support of,
the journalist getting sent a mail bomb. No, no, I'm not supporting that at all. And I'm
not saying that, but I'm saying on some level, he has to understand like these people.
But he doesn't know any difference. So like, if let's say you're not shown love as a kid,
that's why I love looking at leaders that are currently in charge, not just American ones, but British ones all over the world.
The ones that are angry, the ones that like want to fuck other people's life up.
And I always look at them and I go, why are you so angry?
And then I'm like, let's have a look at your parents.
And their parents seem like a bunch of assholes as well.
Right.
And then it's like, that's all they know.
Right.
You know, so then like, that's why I always find it amazing.
Like you look at Trump and I'm like, oh, how much love did you get from your parents?
Probably not that much.
But what do you do when I can't just look at him and go, oh, you didn't get love.
And then you keep on with your hate speech and keep talking all this.
It's definitely not OK.
Right. But I'm saying then how can you be empathetic, right?
Understand that he may be damaged and that's why that's happening while still making it very clear that what he's saying is unacceptable is of just a complete, uh, it goes against what
the foundations of the supposed like American values are. You know, like where, how do you
split that difference? Cause it can't just be, we'll leave him alone while he does broadcast
all this shit because direct action, I feel is very important. I definitely don't think we should
leave Tucker Carlson alone.
If anything, I think we should let him know
that we know this is all about his mom
and that he just needs a hug.
But when it comes to his kids, I'm just saying,
look what happened when we got one child
who was wronged by liberals.
They grew up to be fucking Tucker Carlson.
Think about the future
generation what happens to what happens to you know kids who are coming up here from el salvador
guatemala who gets split from their parents are in the fucking cage it's fucking terrible so what
you know what i mean but that's what i'm saying where where does the empathy go yeah no it
definitely goes because he clearly has no fucking empathy right and that's where i get like really
upset by the whole thing is because on one hand i I understand as a human, like nonviolence, I 100% believe in these kinds of situations.
But I also believe in direct action.
And I believe in letting people know when they've crossed the line.
Right.
And now we're trying to figure out like how do we let this person know the shit he's saying is dangerous and fucked up.
But also, obviously, you're not trying to, you know you know scar his children but the president's getting away with it so
in a way it's like why why should we teach these people a lesson when the president's not even
doing it like genuinely for example i still haven't paid my tax right this year right and
there's an element of me that's like well if your president's not going to pay it right i'm i'm
hardly legal in this country why would i pay tax if apparently your president's not going to pay it, I'm hardly legal in this country. Why would I pay tax if apparently your president's not doing it?
Especially when the money might be going to locking up kids in cages.
I'm good, thanks.
Yeah, it is.
Right.
I just hope my money's not going to that.
But in a way, I see it as going to that.
Sure, sure, sure.
So it's annoying.
When your president's doing shit, I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson because literally your leader's doing it.
Well, I think, but there also, we have a government that has too many, it's so stacked in the Republican side that there's no mechanism to check him.
So that's the problem there.
If we had, if there are more Democrats in seats of power, like in terms of Congress and things like that, we'll see what they do with the House.
But when you have no one to check him and you only have enablers in his party then
yeah we get this thing but also fear is so much easier to use than fucking love no one wants to
choose love oh can i be loved am i lovable most people look at their like the shit things about
them right and so republicans are actually pretty fucking smart they make everyone stupid and scared
and then they go we can control you we are the. Like, mate, I'm just full of anger.
It's so hard to do like a proper political podcast without just going, this is fucked up.
Well, yeah, because I think everyone has their own ideologies.
And right now we're in a position as people who are progressives to look at what's going on and go, this goes against every single thing that I believe in.
And yeah, there's no way to be calm this goes against every single thing that I believe in.
And yeah, there's no way to be calm about that.
You're like, mm-hmm.
And I don't know.
I also like, and this is selfish and not the most important thing,
but I like being on the side
that isn't doing shitty things to people.
Sure.
I like being on the side that's not mail bombing people
and then not fucking going into churches and shooting them up.
But at what point do we just go, oh, well, I really like being on that side.
Like, I agree, I'm on that side.
But at some point, I'm like, you see the other side just slowly gaining ground
because they're being assholes.
At what point do we just take arms and go, you know what?
We used to fucking kill Nazis.
Right.
Genuinely. We used to fucking kill Nazis. Right. Like that's genuinely.
We used to literally kill Nazis.
Yeah.
It feels like now the World War II is actually not finished.
I thought it was finished in 1945.
But no, what it was is moved to your fucking territory.
Right.
It's insane.
Do you know that in Germany, they're not using, they can't use a swastika anymore.
So they're using the Confederate flag as their symbol.
Nazis?
Nazis. Nazis in Germany are now using the Confederate flag as a symbol to like, hey,
just so you know, we really fucking hate Jews here.
Right. But we also respect rules, so we won't use a swastika. That seems a little odd. If you're a Nazi, you'd be like, hey man, don't use a swastika. We'll use the Confederate
flag.
But at what point, that's why Antifa, they should not use violence.
You should never use violence.
You really should not use violence.
But at some point, if a Nazi is being an asshole, punch him right in the dick.
This is, yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's basically academic at this point because I think we all agree.
But at what point, genuinely, at what point will you raise arms?
At what point will you just go, know what this is enough like i'm i'm breaking to that point where like the kids in cages
got me going i don't even want to live in this country anymore yeah it's pretty fucking wild
yeah not that brexit's any fucking better but like we're not locking cages up yeah yeah no it is it
is better because you're not locking kids up so at at what point? What's going to trigger you? I've thought that there's been justified uses of violence up to this point.
I just don't think going to somebody's home when their kids might be there.
Oh, I agree.
I think we can still have a path where you can still find these people in space,
in public space, and let them know constantly how fucking wrong they are.
And they will, you know, I think that's one version of this
because you're seeing the reaction of them.
But doesn't, psychologically, you telling someone that they're wrong,
doesn't that push them even further back?
I read some article about how telling someone they're wrong
makes you more entrenched in their beliefs.
Yeah, it doesn't make them go, oh, okay, let me hear your thoughts out.
They are so annoyed that you're telling them that they're wrong that they'll go, well, fuck you then.
And then they create this sort of reality barrier where then they're so right that you're wrong.
Right, and your mere presence reinforces them being right because they're like, ah, and there's that person that confirms how I am.
But I don't think anyone thinks that Tucker Carlson is going to come around at this point. I think, you know, something we were talking about earlier when we're talking about his career, because he started as sort of a centrist journalist to his former editors, like speak wistfully about what a great writer he was. basically everybody on the right has had the unfortunate experience of every time they become
a shittier person with less empathy their career gets better so they've just been like pavlov
dogs trained to be shitty people and so they're not coming back from that but it is i think i
think it's perfectly fine and probably commendable to make their lives as shitty as possible uh yeah
well i think it signals to other people who might even be tempted by that to go,
ooh, I don't know if I want all that smoke.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I think that's where the guardrails are.
It's like, well, if you talk like this, chances are you might lose your job if you're a racist
and you get put on blast on Twitter or whatever.
We've seen that time and again.
And I think people have to realize that there are boundaries that we're trying to create.
I don't know if I think ā sadly, what might happen is there will be some kind of weird, kind of violent clash between the left and the right that really will ā people are going to be like, oh, shit.
Okay, maybe we're going to have to rethink what the dialogue is here.
But I don't know if that will happen with this president because at every instance he has to try and unify the country or heal it.
He just wants to fucking throw the fork in the road even harder and divide it.
You know one thing that's amazing?
We still talk about Genghis Khan thousands of years later
because of how much of a prick he was.
We still talk about Hitler.
It was not that long ago.
It was, what, 80 years ago?
But we still talk about him because of how much of a prick he is.
Historically, it's a lot easier to keep your name alive right by being a fucking asshole right yeah and trump
loves his name he loves it right being a genuinely good guy kind of gets you nowhere yeah right it's
really nice people remember you your funeral will be a lot more impressive right like because people
will come because they want to rather than being forced to by the paramilitaries and stuff but like that's it feels like now he's like look i'm gonna die very soon
and let's just fucking go out with a bang uh there is no way he believes he's ever gonna die
but uh yeah that'd be so the doctor comes in they go uh the diagnosis is really bleak mr president
i'm not gonna die i think historically that has something to do with just our fascination with villains but i think when it comes to people
like tucker carlson and whatever the fuck sean hannity it's more that it's so much easier to
make it on the right because there's just not much talent over there so there's no competition
it's reality tv yeah it's and once you go to that side, you can't come back. Yeah. Oh, wait.
One thing, though, that JM found in the course of this was talking about how Tucker Carlson really fancies himself a ladies' man.
Yeah.
There's a moment he was being interviewed by Gavin McInnes.
But there's this thing where they talk about how conservatives, you know, people think conservatives just, like, don't fuck.
And they just marry their high school sweetheart. And listen to this fucking baller response fucker carlson gives
how many women have you had sex with in your life a lot hundred because you went what it was a short
window but i packed it full you carpet bombed yeah yeah i did was it dc it was more like a
yeah it really was it was like a neutron bomb.
Wow.
Yeah, that's a guy who's... As soon as I hear that,
I see that scene in American Pie,
you know, where they're like,
oh, when a guy gives you a number,
just divide it by three.
Right, right, right.
That feels like that,
but with him,
maybe just divide it a few more times.
Divide it by the number he says
to get one.
Hundreds, divide that by hundreds.
More like a neutron bomb.
You know, the metaphor
that everybody uses with regards to
sex. A neutron bomb.
Wow. There's a guy who's at
peace with reality.
Yeah. Again,
he's a very complex
person. Well, not complex.
I mean, he seems like to have some damage in his life.
But again, his fucking rhetoric has just gotten worse and worse
and more and more grotesque and violent over the years.
Because also, the longer you keep up this weird ruse
and this weird lie that you've created for yourself,
the more you're like, it feels like people are bad at poker.
They'd rather go all in than go, look, I've just lost this round.
I can make a new game of poker here.
I can get a new set of cards and let's do it.
But most people are like, no, I'm all in.
I've made a mistake and I know that I'm about to lose, but I'm going to bluff my way out.
That's what I feel like people are doing.
All right.
Not a good game to play.
Well, we're going to keep talking about Tucker Carlson
because after the break we're going to talk about people's sexiest
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have released their sexiest man
alive issue it is Idris Elba And people have released their Sexiest Man Alive issue.
It is Idris Elba, which everybody knew that already.
Yeah, everybody was well aware.
I was a little disappointed by his tattoos.
What are his tattoos?
They're like nonsense.
I don't know.
I couldn't really understand what they were.
It was like a lot of scribble.
Yeah.
Gentlemen, if you had to choose a man to have full cloitus with who would it be
probably Idris Elba right
Guy Fieri
Guy Fieri
he would hook it up with food after
I like to eat after I fuck
and I know he is going to put
so much garlic and butter and whatever it is
it would be part of the love making I don't care
but yeah in this magazine
Guy Fieri for me what about you Eric oh well as soon as you or whatever it is. It could be part of the lovemaking. I don't care. But yeah, in this magazine, yeah, it would be.
So Guy Fieri for me.
What about you, Eric?
Oh, well, as soon as you mentioned the food thing,
I was like, man, that's throwing a bloody wrench in my pipe.
Yeah.
Because that is a great point.
Yeah.
To get a little bit of a breakfast off it.
Maybe Gordon Ramsay.
Oh, the sex, the talk, the dirty talk.
Gordon Ramsay, he has too many forehead wrinkles for me.
You know what I mean?
Guy Fieri looks.
You can use them though.
You can use them as flaps. Yeah, something. Guy F what I mean? Guy Fieri looks... You can use them as flaps.
Yeah, something.
Guy Fieri looks smooth.
Guy Fieri looks smooth.
Smooth all over.
Honestly, for some reason, I don't think he smells.
I think he smells good, like a ton of Axe body spray.
Yeah.
So he's not going to be a stinky, gross dude.
Good.
You know, like a ton of Axe body spray.
Yeah.
The best smell in the world.
Anyway, so the list is pretty interesting.
I know it had some people divided in this office.
Yes, so producer Sophie Lichterman was wildly upset.
Not feeling it.
You know, she put some big X's over faces.
But I was, these are some good looking dudes.
We have.
And cut the eyes out of their faces.
Yeah, it looks like a weird.
That's too much.
Yearbook move.
But okay, so let's go from the oldest.
So from the oldest, Kyle McLaughlin. Oh, it looks like a weird yearbook move. But, okay, so let's go from the oldest. So, from the oldest,
Kyle MacLachlan.
Oh, okay. Who else?
Forrest Whitaker's up there. She said that was a dud. I'm like, yeah, let Forrest rock.
He's doing okay. Yeah, but also, like, so clearly,
like, these choices are not just based on, like, how
hot they are, but it's, like, publicists.
Like, obviously, the PR. And what they're doing this year.
But, like, you know, what they're up to, and, like,
you know. And also, it's just an overall vibe thing, right?
It's all vibes.
Jeffrey Wright.
Oh, okay.
I like Jeffrey Wright in there.
Jeffrey Wright, really?
Oh, you don't think Jeffrey Wright?
He just seems tightly wound.
He's deep.
Such a good character actor.
Yeah, no, for sure.
Then there's Anderson Cooper, Will Smith, Matt McConaughey, Matt Damon.
John Malkovich.
Boris Kojo.
I don't know what the fuck he did.
He's not been that relevant.
Who does a lot of good?
You don't know Boris Kojo?
Light-skinned assassin?
Uh-uh.
He's married to Nicole Murphy.
I know they do a lot of charity work.
Then Jimmy Fallon.
50 Cent.
As soon as you said charity work, I was like, I'm already more attracted.
Yeah.
You just said Jimmy Fallon?
Yeah, Jimmy Fallon is on here.
I don't know if he's sexy.
I don't know what they're doing.
I don't know exactly what that means.
Curtis Jackson, 50 Cent.
Why is 50 Cent on here?
I don't know, man.
You know, Iggy A. Ferrari.
I am.
Alex SkarsgƄrd.
Okay.
Milo Ventimiglia.
Okay.
Adam Levine, so fine.
Really?
Rami Malek.
Shout out to Notre Dame High School.
Harry Shum Jr.
Manish Dayal.
I don't know who these people are.
Oh, Jack.
I know who Trouble...
Basically, this is not really
the sexiest man alive list.
It's like people who are working this year.
Who's around?
Who's working?
Men whose names are in the media.
Harry Shum Jr. is from Crazy Rich Asians?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And who else?
On the young end, Tom Holland, Jaden Smith,
Grigor Dimitrov.
Don't know him.
Dev Patel is only 28.
God damn.
I got to get younger.
Or a better publicist.
Jack, how the fuck are we all not on here?
I know.
I mean, okay.
I get it.
We're both not on there.
But neither of us?
Come on, guys.
Yeah.
What's going on here?
It's not.
Adam Rippon. Okay. I feel that? It's not. Adam Rippon.
Okay, I feel that one.
But yeah, there's, you know, again,
if you've got a good representation
and you've been in a couple movies,
it seems like you can get on that list.
Another thing that I just wanted to point out
was this one is about Meghan and Harry
because, you know.
Again?
Jesus Christ.
Why are you obsessed with this America?
Because she's our lady.
And they're going to move to the country.
Quiet life in the country. Chores.
American holidays. And no
spoiling. And I like it. She's just
basically saying, look, they're not going to live like
William's kids. They're going to be out here sweeping
and doing all kinds of shit. I'll put
my hands on them if I have to. Moving to the country
like the... The English countryside.
Oh. Last week they were telling us that they were moving to-
California.
I know.
The United States.
Damn it, and I was about to be homies with Harry.
I know.
It's going to happen.
Don't worry.
They'll probably live in both.
It feels like they have money enough to live in a few places.
Pretty soon, my goal is I'm going to be on one of these covers, and they're like, is
Miles destroying Harry and Meghan's marriage?
Right, but then it'll be all about how you and Harry are going out too much.
Yeah, sure.
Whatever.
And two stumble bums leave the Ivy again drunk as fuck.
Right.
Is he a bad influence?
Yes.
Anything else going on in the world?
Oh, boy.
In J14, we like to look at the younger stuff now to know what they're telling the youth them.
And there is a couple of interesting things. There's like,
last time we looked in here, they had this section called the guy guide where it says the cutest guys in Hollywood share how boys really think. And some of these, it's just so funny because this is not
how teen boys think. Like these are measured responses that I think a publicist approved.
So when they ask Brandon Arriaga, you know, what's an ideal date?
My best date would be taking blankets and snacks to the beach.
Okay.
Really?
Don't hang out with him.
Right.
If he's not saying, yo, I got a fake ID.
Or like, I know this one liquor store on Van Nuys that will sell to us without the ID.
Shout out to Gus.
This is in no way informed by how you were.
There was that liquor store, man, in Van Nuys.
Wow.
You could go in there with a fucking library card and they would give you a 40 to an 8-year-old.
But his whole thing was he wouldn't sell you liquor.
You could buy beer at a shop, but he just would not sell you spirits.
And that's that.
But yeah, other than that, I think the biggest news really was that,
and I think how they're saying Jamie Foxx and Katie Holmes,
they're finally getting married, I guess,
because she's wearing a wedding ring,
but they're saying she was in a movie,
but it's not a prop because the photo was taken
when she wasn't on set or shooting that day.
Wow.
How does Tom Cruise feel about it?
Apparently they say Jamie got Tom's permission first.
I don't believe that, and I didn't want to read too much into it to even find out if
that was true.
But they might be friends though.
They did collateral together.
They did that taxi movie.
Yeah, and I think that was a big stab in the old back for him.
You know, it's tough out here to be a celebrity and hot.
It's tough for Tom Cruise.
I know.
While we're out here wasting away outside of the top hottest men on Earth list.
I know.
Well, welcome to the club, Tom.
It's rough out here, bro.
Eric.
Yes.
It's been a pleasure having you, man.
Where can people-
Thanks for having me.
I'm sorry I was on Benadryl this whole time.
Wait, you turned the fuck up.
I didn't realize-
I didn't think so.
I didn't realize I was on Benadryl until I arrived.
I was like, oh yeah, I'm on Benadryl.
Ah, yeah.
Thanks for having me.
Where can people find you?
Just the old socials.
I've obviously got an album out, which is pretty exciting.
Alien of Extraordinary Ability.
And it's on iTunes and Spotify.
There you go.
Is that what you are filed under?
Yeah, the American Immigration.
Alien of Extraordinary Ability. That's fucking cool, man. what you are filed under? Yeah, the American Immigration called me alien of extraordinary ability.
That's fucking cool, man.
And is there a tweet
or any active social media
that you've been enjoying?
Twitter's just
a mental health issue
waiting to happen.
It really is.
It's a lot.
Find me on Facebook.
All right.
Oh, Facebook.
Do you update your page a lot?
Yeah, on Facebook.
Slang intent for the fans?
Yeah, I seem to do better
on Facebook because it's a lot easier to
press share and tag people in it.
While Twitter is just a barrage
of people screaming at each
other about things that they'd know.
Yeah, oh yeah.
So I quite like Facebook.
Shout out to Facebook. Miles,
is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Let's see. Well, yeah. Wait, In some instances. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Let's see.
Well, yeah.
Wait, first is me.
My socials. At milesofgray
on Twitter and Instagram. Is there a tweet that I
like? You know, I don't
know. I was looking around
looking kind of light. I saw a video
of a golden Labrador
golden retriever pulling another
dog and that was amazing
shouldn't have said that out loud yeah uh yeah stuff over here uh oh you know what let me just
look i think guy fieri tweeted something it said uh oh i love guy fieri he said uh hey at miles of gray stop curving me what's good daddy hashtag wyd okay cool uh you can find me
on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet that i enjoyed uh just go with karen kilgariff
tweeting just ate taco bell and now a light cry uh we've all been there, Karen. But those are tears of joy. Yes.
I hope for her, too.
She just tried the Doritos Tacos Locos.
Yo, you know you can have a party at Taco Bell now?
What does that mean?
Like, you can call ahead and be like... I always have a party at Taco Bell every time I go.
They'll fucking set up a little corner for you in the restaurant with the fucking balloons and plates and shit.
You can have a legit little birthday party at Taco Bell.
Do you need to prove that to your birthday? No, it's not a birthday thing. You just call them like, hey, I'm trying could have a legit little birthday party. Do you need to prove? Do you need to prove that it's your birthday?
No, it's not a birthday thing. You just call them like, hey, I'm trying to
have a party. Do you have this slot available?
Does Taco Bell sell booze?
No. Can you bring booze in Taco Bell? This is what you do.
You get the cup, you bring in little
airplane bottles, and you pour it in your Mountain Dew
coat red or, you know, Baja Blast.
Thing like that.
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Captain's Log, Stardate 2024.
We're floating somewhere in the cosmos, but we've lost our map.
Yeah, because you refuse to ask for directions.
It's Space Gem, there are no roads.
Good point. So, where are we headed?
Into the unknown, of course.
Join us on In Our Own World as we uncover hidden truths, navigate the depths of culture, identity, and the human spirit.
With a hint of mischief.
One episode at a time.
Buckle up and listen to In Our Own World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Trust us, it's out of this world.