The Daily Zeitgeist - SLOW DOWN, Our Diana? 6.18.20

Episode Date: June 18, 2020

In episode 654, Miles and guest host Scam Goddess Laci Mosley are joined by comedian Zahra Noorbakhsh to discuss the lack of transparency around the PPP fund, how to fix our economy, Kristen Stewart b...eing cast as Princess Diana, and more!FOOTNOTES: The $500 billion black box COVID-19 Broke the Economy. What If We Don’t Fix It? Pablo Larraín To Direct Kristen Stewart As Princess Diana In ‘Spencer’, On When Lady Di Rejected The Fairy Tale Ending: Virtual Cannes Hot Package WATCH: Tom Misch x Yussef Dayes - Kyiv Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 I know last time we were watching NFL bloopers. Now we're going to be watching. Oh, I don't know if you've seen Dorfong Golf, but it's hilarious. This man looks like he's all short and he does all kinds of physical bits. You're going to love this tape. Anyway, welcome to this season. It's actually season 138, episode four of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. It's the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared fucked up consciousness and just say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck Buck Sexton,
Starting point is 00:02:48 fuck J.K. Rowling, fuck anybody else that isn't about everybody eating at this table. It's Thursday, June 18th, 2020. My name is Miles Gray, but that's not as important because coming to the stage, oh, do we have a treat for you? Now, this woman has been traveling the world and not even this world, but I believe other worlds in space, in time, everywhere. She is universal. Her energy cannot be summed up by words or names.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And I can merely just describe her as an energy, an energy of a scam goddess. Please welcome my co-host today, Miss Lacey Mosley. Hey, I'm so excited to be here co-hosting. What an intro, Miles. Yeah. It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. Oh. Robbery, robbery, robbery.
Starting point is 00:03:54 There are so many ways to scam you, so much I could take. Oh, no. You became the light in the dark side of me. But scams remain the drug that's the high and not the pill. But did you know when your login shows, my eyes become large and the con I must run
Starting point is 00:04:15 can be seen. Baby! Oh yeah! Oh, come on, come on! Oh my god! I'm gonna send you my doctor's bill for these fucking goosebumps Oh, yeah. Stopping there. Oh, come on. Come on. Oh, my God. I'm going to send you my doctor's bill for these fucking goosebumps I got. I don't know when they're going to come down. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Okay. Who blessed us with those lyrics? I wrote that. Oh, my God. See? I don't know. I was really feeling like coming into the zeitgeist. I was excited to come on the show today.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Oh, so good to have you. Yeah. I'm glad to have you on. I'm glad to see your face. I'm glad to be near you. I mean, at least through this Zoom call, it's very restorative. And it's even more restorative to have our guest today in our third seat, someone who has been on the show multiple times now, someone whose view on this country and just the world at large, I think, is very valuable to our discussions. And she's also just super fucking funny and smart. Please welcome the just amazing Zara Norbach. Hello. How are you?
Starting point is 00:05:20 Okay, I've got my AK. Oh, yes, please. Yes. Okay. AK. No, I can't. I need to find something else hold on hold on okay okay all right i'm going for like crawling in my skin destabilization it's it's everywhere i think that was one of the first things you spoke about when you ever came on this show was destabilization you know as uh as a phenomenon as a tool is this something to be aware of and yeah i feel like every subsequent visit we get deeper and deeper into what that looks like in an American context. Dude. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah. I just, you know, I don't, I keep singing this other AK. I don't know why I'm calling them AK. Yeah. AK.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Welcome to Iran. This is now Iran. You thought it was America, but it's actually Iran. That sounds like the beginning of a disney the newest disney movie yeah right american princess can you imagine yeah when we're greeting like hello occupation forces good day to you isn't it neat wouldn't you say my occupation forces are complete wouldn't you say it's time to defund the police?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Oh, well, yeah, that's step one. But we are really, really in the midst of history. I was always wondering, like, when's that part going to be for us? And it's really been delivered, expressed to our doorsteps. So I hope you sign for the package. Great. So before we get to know you, Zara, let's tell people what we're going to talk about. I just want to talk a little bit about that $500 billion slush fund, the PPP program or the Paycheck Protection Program that has just been getting, I think it's safe to say,
Starting point is 00:07:23 without knowing where the money's going, it's probably going to a lot of the wrong people. So we'll kind of look at some of the places we do know it's going and also some thoughts on, like, you know, what if we just rethought this whole, like, economy thing, you know, while we have the chance right now, while things are pretty much at a standstill. Maybe there's a better way.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We'll talk about that. As well as Quaker Oats finally doing just literally the bare minimum by scrapping Aunt Jemima and the imagery of Aunt Jemima and changing the name. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 We'll let people know just actually how fucked up and awful that is and why this is the absolute bare minimum. As well as many other things. I know Lacey has some information
Starting point is 00:08:05 from hollywood about a surprise casting that will it'll take our breath away uh but before we get into all that zara please tell us what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are where does sean white live the fucking snowboarder yeah okay wait like are you trying to pull up yeah do you have a problem with sean white i've got where does sean white live who is sean white's wife who are his kids whoa okay how do i how do i find White? Do I have friends who are friends with Sean White? What's going on? Yeah, what's going on? Let us in.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Okay. What's his name? Because right now it sounds like you're about to buy some diapers and drive across the country. Yeah, right. Exactly. I might. I'm trying to look for him because I'm trying to I'm putting it out there. If you're if you know Sean White, if you're connected with him, connect me to him.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I'm trying to find him for my new podcast. I'm working on a new show that I'm in pre-production with. It's called Don't Stop Believing, a show about all the things we believe in that we don't call religion. And for one of my episodes, I'm not going to tell Sean this, so don't call religion uh-huh and for one of my episodes i'm not gonna tell sean this so don't tell him this part well okay well just so you know this will be on a podcast that someone may reference when they say who wants to talk to me who's trying to what but i guess we should just just let him in fine i mean i'm just banging on the fact that he's like in a compound where he doesn't like have access to things that like people have you know like in a day like he lives in like you know a snow mountain somewhere in like
Starting point is 00:09:49 aspen or something clearly my google search helped me uh but what so what is it about sean white that's appealing okay so here's what i feel like there's all these ways that people encapsulate whole behaviors in religions. But if you take the wrapping of religion away, we all have these like, you know, tendencies,
Starting point is 00:10:13 I want to say. So one of them that I'm looking at is extremism, which is rampant in the United States right now. There's like, Nazis are a thing again. Yeah. Or not a thing. Just like they're,
Starting point is 00:10:27 I guess they just think they won't get the smoke when they step outside. I think that's what it is. There you go. They're just more free to come out. Yeah, it's like, I'm coming out.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And there's a lot of people willing to answer. They're all coming out dancing with their nail heads. I'm getting knocked getting knocked out right they used to just hide do you notice how people stop saying neo-nazis people just say nazis now right yeah their rebranding didn't work that was like neo soul we were like no we you're just the same nazis nothing's different don't try to rebrand yeah here we are again yay yeah so the i feel like extremism is a is a thing that everybody you know associates with like religion
Starting point is 00:11:14 but it's just it's just a radicalizing behavior but then even radicalizing is like that's political and i feel like that's our kind of rapping. So I'm trying to interview Sean White because he was a disciple of Tony Hawk. Mm hmm. And there's something about extreme sports that to me is really religious. That's about like the sacrifice of the body. Right. That I think is really interesting. And I feel like.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Right. Or even like climbers, like free climbers. Like there was this prodigy, this 16 year old who recently passed away who was like apparently on like a whole other and like level in terms of climbing but yeah like to your point that's clearly just a faith that's that's such a demonstrate interesting and like i read amelia erhart's autobiography which you so should read i didn't even know she wrote an autobiography. Yeah, I thought she disappeared in the air. She dropped a book before she died.
Starting point is 00:12:09 The only thing I know about her is my library is named after her. Well, she wrote a book. That makes sense. What'd she do? She wrote in her autobiography three years before she disappeared that no matter what, when she dies, she wants it to be while flying.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Oh, shit. Okay. That worked out. That worked out. I mean, like, that's so religious. Right. So anyway, I just, I want to talk to Sean about this stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I mean, I'm sure, like, you know, even, like, watching The Last Dance and just seeing how Michael Jordan viewed the world, too. There's there is like there are levels of dedication to a certain level of behavior or whatever conduct. Yeah. All right. So let's let's find Sean White. Y'all Zeitgang do your thing. Maybe Sean White is Zeitgang. OK, I don't know. But I'll tell you this. There I'm not even joking. One of my homeboys from high school, he used to pretend he was Sean White when he would go to other parts of the country where people weren't as media savvy and people would believe him.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah. It was like the lowest level flex. But like, because we were like, bro, that's not even like that cool. But he's like, I know, man. He's like,
Starting point is 00:13:19 but I got free beer and this girl gave me her number. And I was like, all right, well. Hey, that's a good bit. That's a good scam. That's a good scam. That's a light scam. Not too dangerous.
Starting point is 00:13:28 A little vacation. Right. Yeah. That's what I'm going to do. Zara, what's something that you think is underrated? Balloon deliveries. Okay. Wait, like someone like knock, knock at the door
Starting point is 00:13:39 and it's just a pile of balloons? Listen, I turned 40 on the 11th. Hey, happy birthday. Congratulations. Happy birthday. Thank you. And Zoom birthdays suck. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Quarantine birthdays are shit. And if you have a friend who's going to have quarantine birthday send them balloons yeah my friend sent me balloons and it like it freaking made my life you guys yeah i didn't think i could be so happy you know what i mean like you think you don't care about this shit and then you're there and then your doorbell rings and you open it and it's just colorful balloons and balloon animals in a bouquet and your heart sings wow that's cute wait so it was like a mixed batch of balloons like like helium animals regular balloons they're mylar like what's the spread that's exactly that's a smorgasbord uh, a short truth. So really see, uh, balloon balloon. Uh,
Starting point is 00:14:45 there is a Mylar that says 40 in like glorious magenta. And then there's little balloon poodles and little balloon swirlies. And then there's like happy birthday balloons mixed with like magentas and blues. Right. Gorgeous. That sounds so cute. And that's a flex.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Cause I had, uh, Oh, go ahead. No, I. And that's a flex. I like balloons too. I had a, oh, go ahead. No, I said that's a flex because I think there's a helium shortage in the world right now. Yeah, you must be really well connected to the helium gang. I remember my grandfather's funeral when I was eight had balloons for some reason, which feels inappropriate at a funeral to have balloons. Right. But they were fun. And they did right my mood. which feels inappropriate at a funeral to have balloons right but they were fun i think it's just i think because like think about it like as a baby right that's like the
Starting point is 00:15:31 fucking the best thing you can get as a toy is a balloon that floats you know what i mean and like the devastation like you know you've seen videos where a child lets a balloon go and it's it might as well be the end of the fucking world so maybe there's something that you know reactivates that i think just even hearing you describe the like the visual of opening a door and it's a bunch of balloons i was like yeah all right like i like this i was depressed and then despite the helium shortage there came my bouquet of resource you know and i think this is a kind of we'll talk about this later on in the show. But like even looking at kind of what how the economy is changing and trying to look at different ways of living, even to your point about balloons,
Starting point is 00:16:15 like I think a lot of us are realizing we can be happy with a lot less too. And not like this churn that we were used to before wasn't really serving us the same way. Like and even to hear you, I'm even like and I get it like things are different. So comparatively, yes, hearing about balloons sounds fantastic. But I honestly like I feel like I've I've been I've learned to be more efficient with like what my true like needs are to sort of maintain a like a balance. are to sort of maintain a like a balance um but i think that's important to keep in mind as we try and think up whatever the fuck earth society looks like after this or if we go back to the toxic just horrific business as usual uh what's something that's overrated sorry turning 40 turning 40 shut up everybody who's like i finally know who I am as a woman.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I feel so strong and empowered. This is the best I can. It just gets better. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. My body hurts. I have arthritis.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I mean, I don't know for sure, but it hurts and I'm geeky. And I miss my collagen. And I miss my soft skin. And I miss my collagen and I miss my soft skin and I'm sick of snap filters to make up for the fact that the collagen is draining from my body. And you know what? If this was puritanical times and someone told me that if I took somebody's baby and mash it and ate it, my skin would come back fresh, I would do it. Oh, man. Well, you look great. I don't know about all these these snap filters or whatever but damn i
Starting point is 00:17:46 actually i killed a baby and ate it so okay well i was about to say you look like you've been sucking in the energy like hocus pocus you know when they like breathe in the energy and then they die like yeah you look like you've been doing that that's it looks great oh my god it looks great i love this trajectory of dis films. We're now there. Just sucking the souls out of children. Come little children, I'll take thee away. Into my garden of magic. I'm going to remix it.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Wait, what? TikTok children. When you're on your way to 40, like in birthday 38, birthday the 39th, were you feeling this like sense of, were you looking at 40 as something you dreaded or are you kind of just thinking more in terms of like as your body is starting to say like, yeah, we're not 23 anymore? You know, I will say like I think 36, 37 for me was like all the physical stuff. And the like, oh, my God, the like future planning, because like people you start to do math. And then it's extra frustrating as a woman in Hollywood because everybody's career either culminates at 40 or you just like and you disappear, you know, or you've been like Sam B,
Starting point is 00:19:08 you know, busting your ass and you hit 40 and you're ready to take off. You know what I mean? So it's like there's all there was all that fear of like when people when I would talk to managers and they would say, well, getting into television writing, that's a five year process. And it'd be like 36 plus five oh my god am i gonna make it because people just stop listening to a woman after 40 there's that then the other thing that i did not expect that would hit me so hard is like where's my friend squad right do i have friends how how am i celebrating my four decades like and and i hate like all the i'm i'm not like a big this is my bestie this is my squad like it's just not ever
Starting point is 00:19:53 been my thing i mean i went to a different school for every year of elementary school i make friends quickly oh shit yeah i don't know how to were you like in the military were your parents in the military or something or were you in the military i was in the military this is part of the destabilization conversation right wait well yeah wait how come you're bouncing around so much yeah i just had young parents you know what i mean it's like think of how many apartments you've had right and then you have a kid and also immigrant parents so they were like what do you mean it's a new school district right right right right what do you mean it's a new school district? Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:20:27 What do you mean there's a racist bus driver who dropped my kid off where she felt like and now I can't find my child and she laughed in my face when I was looking for her? Right. What do you mean? We got to move. Oh, you know. Right, right, right, right. Just sort of learning California.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah. And. Learning California. Yeah. And. Learning California racists. That's my favorite remix of that song. I actually need that whole song. I think that really is like that one evil Karen lady in San Francisco who literally had like the Guy Fawkes mask like face. And she's like, hi, do you live here? That was me like, these california racists wait so sorry you said you don't have like a big girl group so i'm
Starting point is 00:21:14 guessing you've never done like uh like the matches swimsuits like a birthday and then you would be the one that says birthday bitch or like do you have you ever gone on a girl's group trip or something no like and here's what i have a lot i have more women friends than i do guy friends right and i have like my woman friends who are really big on that stuff and they had their parties you know where like we were all around that and i never connected with it until i hit 40 and then I was like I need my girl squad you're like everyone matching outfits now now everyone matching outfits yesterday get on Etsy and buy the t-shirt I need everybody in hoodies with denim jackets on top and the same pair of jeans that I bought three years ago. Right now, we all need a match and you're my besties.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Oh, if there's a Zara, I will put money into a GoFundMe for your girls trip. So you can have that with your denim outfits. Oh, thank you. I was supposed to go to Antarctica, but it didn't happen. You were supposed to go. No, you were not. Wait, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:24 What? That's my last. That was my last little tidbit of 40. Wow. I wanted to go to Antarctica, but then how are we even going to plan for that? Well, you know you can't get there because the earth is actually flat. And if you go there, that will prove that the earth is round. So what they do is they knock you out and turn your boat around and they put you on an iceberg that's actually somewhere else. You know what? These are all facts. I am tired of 2020 not being my year okay yeah hey you never know i mean it's like so it's i don't even know how to look at this year yet
Starting point is 00:22:54 it's so chaotic yet there are i don't know somehow like racism like people like figured out how to define that which brings me let's move on to our myth. Zara, what is a myth? What do you think people think is true that you know is false or vice versa? Okay, this is my big WTF. Why do people keep thinking that racism is supposed to make sense? Right. Do you know what I mean? When you tell somebody that something racist happened to you,
Starting point is 00:23:23 and they're like, wait, that doesn't make sense. And you're like, why is it supposed to make sense yeah thinking people are unequal you're superior than them because of their race is already a flawed premise so what right like do you understand that if it makes sense to you that makes you racist right wow it really is wait so just because you are muslim they thought you were a terrorist that's racism that doesn't make sense yeah it makes sense to me yeah right exactly and then you're like wait what yeah oh right yeah oh so they thought you're a terrorist because you're a muslim right yeah i watched the tv show i watched the tv show 9-11 i watched
Starting point is 00:24:05 that well then why'd you go there it's like what yeah it's true it really is like i think we don't treat racism like we do like eating handfuls of your own shit so if you start a conversation off about seeing somebody eating handfuls of their own shit it's never going to be like well that doesn't make sense you'd be like oh man people are still eating handfuls of their own shit it's never going to be like well that doesn't make sense you'd be like oh man people are still eating handfuls of their own shit huh you think they'll fucking wake up because it's not good you know it's not healthy but okay i guess people eat but yeah it is like this thing where i think because racism has been the foundation and you know rationalization for so much uh injustice that to like then say that's bad, it's like, I think that's what a lot of white people were experiencing too.
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's sort of like, well then, yeah, I guess these statues of slavers should come down. Right. I guess we keep telling you guys to forget about slavery, but then we like literally do have slavery statues everywhere. Yeah. That serves as a reminder and i think it's also wild too it's like there are people that are alive right now who have interacted with people
Starting point is 00:25:11 that were in bondage you know what i mean like grandparents whose great-grandparents were in bondage like it's not that far removed like they're and i think that's what's very interesting is suddenly like history caught up with the present for many people at the same time on many levels. But yeah, it's true. Like to your point, it's not supposed to. That's the point. Racism is already a flawed ideology and it's putrid. So there's no need to make sense.
Starting point is 00:25:52 It's interesting, though, seeing a lot of white folks who, I guess, could conveniently ignore racism for so long be stuck in the house and like, oh, my God, Ted, all that's on TV is racism. Every channel is racist. I guess it was real the whole time. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. And I think that's the other part that's really troubling for a lot of black people and any oppressed group right now who's seeing this like people connecting the dots because now it's like having to relive it over to be like. Yeah, because that's what's been a fuck. All right. So here's here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Since now you're listening again. Like, it's just it's very it's it's a lot. But I don't know know that's what i'm saying like is this is is this the room is this a point is this a turning point societally for the beginnings of something not that this exact moment everything will change on a dime but we can point to this year as being something the beginning of something new i think so yeah because when the civil rights act was passed it was literally on the heels of so many American cities being on fire and so many protests. And now we're in an age where these are the biggest protests that we've had since the protests of the death of Martin Luther King.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And I think you are seeing people open up. And you're seeing a lot of marginalized people feel comfortable speaking about things because it's like, oh, you you want to defund the police okay also look at the police that lives inside of you that has policed me every single day at my damn job and everywhere i go and so it's like now we're forcing people to have their own reckoning with their own issues like you know what i mean like the karens that's what we call them but those are police those are people who are agents of chaos and and of black pain and oppression and of oppression of all different races that aren't their own or, you know, marginalized people. So it's like we're not just talking about defunding the police that are state sanctioned. We're talking about, you
Starting point is 00:27:35 know, you as a police, like you have to get rid of the police inside of you. Or this greater idea of like whiteness, you know, and I think a lot of people take it on to be something that if you are not white you don't under you don't experience whiteness or participate in it but it's it's prevalent at every level does you there's internalized white supremacy for black people there's internalized white supremacy for asian people there's just straight up white supremacy and i think that's the thing is like it's it's a moment for everybody to basically, you know, purge the whiteness that exists even in your own thinking. How you would I really I really challenge people to think of like the next time you see someone on the street and you think you are in danger or you have you become suspicious. and you think you are in danger or you become suspicious,
Starting point is 00:28:27 take a second to immediately stop yourself and examine what exactly you're looking at. Now, clearly, if someone's running at you with a knife, that's one thing. But if you just see a group of kids on the corner or someone at a, like, whatever it is, take a second to just be like, whoa, what was that? What was that? Because that's the feeling that people act on without actually thinking through, why am I thinking like this? Why? What is what what is coming up inside of me?
Starting point is 00:28:49 I will say that there's this inherent guilt that a lot of quote unquote, good white people have that also gets in the way of their education and their learning, which is that like, well, I'm not a racist. So you know, these aren't things that I necessarily need to work on. But what we're trying to say is, is that we all have internalized racism, and there is a tiny, evil white man who lives inside of all of us simply because of how we were indoctrinated into this country. Our whole education system is built on lies that slavers and racists told us. Our money has the face of rapists and slavers on it. You know what I mean? It's in all of us i remember grading papers for my cousin in brooklyn once and all of the names were like la cromashian
Starting point is 00:29:31 and stuff that i couldn't pronounce and i was like what are all these ghetto ass names and my cousin looked at me and he said everything's made up so what makes these names less important or less valuable than sarah and thomas and was like, whoa, who taught me that? And then I was like, oh, the little white man inside of me taught me that. So it's like we all have to deprogram what we've learned. Or even think of where our own last names come from. I know where mine comes from. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Like, that's, people didn't even have, we didn't have last names who were owned. You know what I mean? Like, half of these names are there because that's just the factory you worked at. I think this is all part of this moment, you know? And I think if they're going to take the time, like you're saying, Lacey, to sort of look within themselves,
Starting point is 00:30:15 that's really the work that is going to have to happen first. Because if you just go, if you just stop it, like, yeah, man, the police are wilding out and just end it there, it will continue. We need more people out there who say, no, that is bad. Like and they're over policing. And I know why they're over policing these communities, because we've actually left them behind and a lack of material access has led to these conditions. So if we don't do that, we shouldn't be talking about crime. We need to be talking about how we're leaving people behind. Yeah, I don't understand that person, that person who sees this stuff and just goes,
Starting point is 00:30:48 wow, that's wild. And it just goes about their day. I think I don't. I think the thing is right to really acknowledge how bad racism is on a certain level. People will feel guilty. You know what I mean? Because that's just part of connecting the dots. Yes. But I think the bottom line is part of that process. The point is to not feel guilty. The guilt is merely you actually just becoming aware of, you know, your relation to whiteness, to how that has benefited you and how that's actually been detrimental to a lot of people. The real work is then just saying, OK, the guilt is natural because you're actually realizing how bad it is. Now, the real part is then to actually say, well the guilt is natural because you're actually realizing how bad it is.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Now, the real part is then to actually say, well, now I'm acting differently. That's not – we're not asking for people to feel bad. We're not asking people to cry on the timeline on behalf of black people. We're asking people to pull up on behalf of black people every day, like no matter what. No more videos of y'all being like i take responsibility a white person have looked away at so many negroes like we don't want that we need you to actually take accountability in your real life not like get on a video in black and white and stare at a camera and read off of a cue card yeah and i just want to say one thing um specifically just just to get people's minds working on what we mean by systemic racism
Starting point is 00:32:09 racism and oppression is that the thinking is the beginning but the system that is in place has work is working how it always was supposed to which was to suppress and to enslave people of color and it's still working through our prison pipelines and just like something you may not even know cities that are being over policed where they're jailing black and brown people a lot of those black and brown people are going to prisons who then contribute to the republicans agenda because they get to count those bodies those people in prison as people in their population so it's gerrymandering so then they get more influence because the more people they lock up who are brown and black the more influence they have in the country like that's crazy yeah so and that's just one thing
Starting point is 00:32:59 but that's so many things the subjugation of black people and brown people and indigenous people, that will always be the resource that people use to extract wealth from. You know what I mean? In that same way, that's just moving black bodies around. So you have a bigger piece of the pie in terms of influence. It's everything is about just these are not. This is just other ways, like once in the same we were talking yesterday about just criminalizing being poor because now you've created another industry that just makes money off of cleaning up the failings
Starting point is 00:33:29 of capitalism and it's like here we go so loop loop and capitalism has never worked without free labor and i think that we all have learned that when we're sitting in our freaking houses and can't go to work you know the free labor or the labor where we pay people the bare minimum to survive is the only way that this capitalist system has ever functioned. And it doesn't function. Well, you know what? Let's talk more about that, actually,
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Starting point is 00:38:01 Listen to Señora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And yes, to your point of how this system is working, our economy, the nature of our economy, like the pandemic has basically shown us that we don't need as much as we thought we did. That's for sure. The things that we have seen are that like these traditional indicators of the economy are what people are all screaming about on top of yes there are people who are out of work and need help but this there's been this like very very strong focus on like the economy and you know what kind of growth like the economy has contracted and this is happening and wall street is going down. And, you know, a lot of economists have been saying for a long time, like we have this obsession with growth, you know, with the GDP, which has been sort of like since the
Starting point is 00:38:55 end of World War II, like that's your report card on how, you know, how much abundance is in your country and how much you're prospering. And I get it. That's just, you're counting up the goods and services and the overall access to things, or not the access, but the overall wealth in your country. But we've seen, man, America has great GDP, but people don't have shit. So what use is this metric anymore? If we're talking about, hey, we're number one. Meanwhile, we're looking at nurses and stuff wearing like butcher paper in like the ER trying to protect themselves from a pandemic. And we have police that look like they're fucking hopping out of Gundams from like an anime or some shit.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Like it's just a very all we're seeing is like all this stuff we're talking about is clearly like in service of a different reality than the one we experience as you know the 99 this is where intersectionality i feel like is so key yeah because i mean i i have to be able to call out brown folks on model model minority bullshit because that is a version of and that that is anti-blackness and it is racism and it does sort of seep into the buy-in of my contribution is valuable i'm not valuable where it becomes about you know we need immigrants who are going to contribute and then folks come here you know know, thinking, believing that, buying into that rhetoric of, you know, I came here legally. I waited in line.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I, you know, and I work hard for my money. Like, as though other people are not, as though these systemic structures, you know, are not real systemic structures. Like, racism isn't real. Right. And what I see happening and where I see the connecting point that I brought it up is in a country where goods become you and GDP and growth no longer includes you and you are now a means to an end, that is no longer your country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:07 You are now denaturalized. You are now diaspora. You don't have a home anymore because your mattering in this universe that is this nation is now contingent. And that's apartheid. Yeah. I mean, you saw the sort of institutions rally around to protect capital right like the government got got it together real quick to start handing out checks
Starting point is 00:41:33 to these companies to keep them afloat and meanwhile we're looking at all these other the response to the actual pandemic in people's livelihood it's like well i don't know are we getting the best deal on masks like can, can we can we start a connect? Like, can the homie make money off of making masks and then we can just buy like that? A lot of that those ills were really just just right out there in the open. I don't know how like at what point does white America or affluent America get fed up? You know, I was just on the phone with a friend of mine the other day
Starting point is 00:42:07 and she opened the call with this line. She said, you know, I'm not trying to put myself ahead of the economy, but. Wow. What? You should definitely put yourself ahead of the economy. That's dark. The fact, and you know what's crazy is like America is like our homegirl who we thought
Starting point is 00:42:28 was our homegirl who we lent money to. And this bitch never gives us our money back. America's the girl who comes over and just gives us a sob story about how bad things are going and she just needs to hold $600. And then you see America in a brand new Gucci belt and Balenciaga shoes next week, and you're like, America, girl, where's my money? And she's like, no, no, no, no, girl. People are dying and like, listen, healthcare or whatever. So like, give me a necklace.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And you're like, wait, hold up. Is that my necklace you're wearing? They're like, oh, is it? I don't know. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. And I'm like, America, I just heard that you gave, you know, billionaires some money. And they have money. Why are you giving them money? need the money oh girl listen we gotta wait it's gonna
Starting point is 00:43:09 come to y'all what the billionaires gonna they're gonna spread it out don't worry yeah right it's like how long how long do people just allow like i think that's the thing because the a lot of the images that were shown on tv like the news is presented to people as if there's a gigantic middle class when there isn't. It's like the coverage is not really interested in talking about the real issues in the United States, again, because that would shine a light
Starting point is 00:43:34 on the class of people that owns the media. You know what I mean? Like, how are you going to do a story on, you know, stats? I mean, this is what they do. They'll put up stats like this. They say like in 1960, and this is true,
Starting point is 00:43:55 1965, CEOs made 20 times more what the typical workers made in 1965. But in 2013, they made 296 times that amount. percent between 1973 and 2013 but productivity increased to 74 percent and then pivot to some shit about how you know this like fucking seal of his best friends with a dolphin as sea world like they won't examine that they actually if you're gonna if you're gonna actually tell people this you have to really look at that and say this is where the money is going it used to be your boss just made 20 times more than you did and that was already like whoa they're like this motherfucker is not out here on the line making this shit he's in the office like getting head looking through a window smoking a cigar like what the fuck is that and that's his job get the fuck out of here i'm i could oh my fucking head almost got smushed by a machine earlier and then you have and so to even look at a point like that and to say how much it's
Starting point is 00:44:44 it's gone past that and not really examine that that's why there aren't – that's why wages are low because all of that money that could have just been going to the workers is going to the CEOs. That's why your benefits suck because every benefit you don't get, that's another dollar for them. That's how this works. But they can't really do that or they don't have as many people who are willing to articulate that on a consistent basis, because I think that would actually inform the public as to what the situation is or the nature of our economy is. Yeah, it's called editorializing. feel to me like any member of the gop and certainly not the democrats who took this money um are in any way invested in the growth or health or well-being of this country every single move they make favors chaos destruction more civil unrest activating more murder police it doesn't it doesn't make any sense and this is a place where i feel infrastructure should make sense yeah well i think maybe maybe that's the
Starting point is 00:45:55 next dawn of you know realizations people have much in the same way like you're saying racism shouldn't make sense capitalism should not make sense to people either it really shouldn't make sense. Capitalism should not make sense to people either. It really shouldn't. And like, like even to your point about this, like morality of working, right. That we have this thing of like, well, if you work, then you're worth, you're worthy because you're making something that is completely, that is just already like, that's an inhumane, uh, just premise to begin with. Like when really the country should be like if we have so much wealth every kid can eat every person can be educated if you're sick you go to a doctor that's just fundamental that's just fun like what why is that uh why is why why are we debating this at all and it's because we're unfortunately up against a class of people that have so much money
Starting point is 00:46:43 they can just fuck with your heads through the media or news coverage or the, the politicians that are in place and the legislation that it's passed. That's going to take a lot of people to really understand. I feel like in like inherently how bad this feels. And like, that's one of the crushes we're feeling. And Zara going back to your podcast saying like, what is your religion?
Starting point is 00:47:03 I think a big issue that we have in America is that too many people's religion is capitalism. And a lot of those people tend to be the poor ones, which is so bizarre to me. But it is like I've heard so many people, you know, who are poor or broke or beyond the poverty line say, if I was a billionaire, I would hide my tax money too. And it's like, but you're not though. Like, so you're going to live in this imaginary state and punish yourself for the rest of your life because you want to have a dream? But I could be a millionaire.
Starting point is 00:47:33 But I could be a millionaire. You know what? They're partaking in worship. That's a version of worship. That's worship because it's like that billionaire is my God and I don't deserve as much as he does. I mean, I was talking to my mother on the phone yesterday and I was like, well, look, if we're not going to defund the police, at least as a form of reparation, black and brown people should not have to pay taxes to the police. Why am I paying taxes to get murdered?
Starting point is 00:47:52 Why am I handing over my check to get beat on? That makes no sense. But it's like we're all feeding into the system that is abusing us because we can't. I don't know how you deprogram people. There's so much pride in working and people need to feel better than other people. Well, I think because we have to tell people different stories, right? It's always like, you were broke as fuck
Starting point is 00:48:11 and now you fucking Gucci down to the toenails. I came here with $6, $10, $5, my toe. My fucking, my toilet is a yacht. You know what I mean? I don't even fucking, it's not even a fucking yacht anymore. I just shit on it. I ride my toilet. Like it fucking, it's not even a fucking yacht anymore. I just shit on it. I ride my toilet.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Like it just, it's like we, all of our stories are about excess and that's what we're putting value on. So that pathology of excess is just acted out. Cause I'm sure if you told somebody who was poor, okay, what do you want more?
Starting point is 00:48:37 You want the chance of winning a million dollars or would you rather have a job that got you $50,000 a year? Right now. Right now. What would you take right now? Oh, that got you $50,000 a year right now? Right now. What would you take right now? Oh, I'll take $50,000. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Then kill that dream because we can make that other one happen pretty easily if we actually get our shit together. And I think that's a dream we have to begin to sell people on. I don't know that we have to, but just in general, like we just idealize we have so many markers of success, whether that's the where you live, the cars you drive and things like that, that we also we simultaneously need to reemphasize just the basic like human decency to that. That's actually foundational to everything. First, like, let's take care first.
Starting point is 00:49:21 My stance is this. I don't care what you call it, If it's capitalism, if it's socialism, if it's communism, if it's Zara fascism, which is something that I also sell that's available to you, I would love to be your general in perpetuity. I would have checks and balances and you could trust that I would have them. Whatever it is that you call it at some point the accountability is how am i doing how are we doing how's my family doing how are communities doing how are other communities communities outside of mine doing if it's not good you gotta stop and figure out what you did it doesn't matter what you call it and when it starts to get into the realm of a kind of dogma,
Starting point is 00:50:07 it triggers the shit out of me, and I feel my diaspora quads kick in, and I'm building a boat, and I'm paddling out of here. Right. Because, like, I can feel my heart racing, because the way the playbook, and Miles, I'm going to lean on your history superpowers here. That's what you call a major, right?
Starting point is 00:50:30 Superpowers? Yeah. Shit I won't stop talking about drunk at a party when there's a trivia night. Here's trivia. there's a playbook for how to, um, for, for how to take a country down via dogma and have people eat each other alive over their version of what we should or should not uphold as a high morality. And it's no longer about how we're doing or how things are functioning. I'm pretty sure that's a tactic that was used to destabilize a couple countries.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Everywhere. Iran, Libya, Egypt, Syria. Yeah, no. I mean, that's the whole... It's such a powerful tool because suddenly no one remembers what they're in it for. Yes. And you just take all this wild energy.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And if you take away the ability to know why there's this energy, then you can maliciously redirect it in places. And I think, yeah, just with everything that's going on, that's why I think even now, like on this show, we talk about how the news is like failing to actually capture what is happening right now. And it's allowing people to be like, I think if depending on what you watch, because there's a version where people are just going to ignore that there is a full blown movement that's multicultural, multiracial, all across many different classes happening. racial all across many different classes happening or a version where antifa is coming to burn down your payless shoe store and you need to fucking you know strap up and step up like it's but again everyone it's a failure to actually help people understand what's happening and where to direct that energy because look look what it does it keeps everybody on different pages but everybody the thing is even the people who are angry that antifa is coming there if they're angry because they're poor too they just found another reason to get angry about being poor and unfortunately the version they are into is all conspiratorial and is not helpful
Starting point is 00:52:36 because god damn you would you would hate for the gop to look at their trumpers and be like oh fuck they figured it out you know we're keeping them poor they figured it out for the scooby-doo like mass reveal of like it's not a ghost of evil negros it's right the gop it's like it's been this whole thing the whole time what but i guess like you know we're waiting for that but i think that's also really upsetting to try and deal with too if your whole reality is based on this lie, too. That's why you see so many of these races doubling down right now. Because could you imagine realizing your whole fucking identity wasn't shit this whole time?
Starting point is 00:53:13 And you were also. Well, whiteness is their religion. Right. And exactly. And people are willing to put guns on and guard the fucking sweet, sweet capital of the target building or whatever. fucking sweet sweet capital of the target building or whatever but yeah like it's just um the answers that i think their whiteness usually gave to them were satisfying to them and slowly those like clearly the answers that whiteness gave people are starting to not taste as good to people right now because a lot of people are rejecting it and i feel like to your
Starting point is 00:53:43 i think lacy you're saying earlier a lot of people are willing to just speak out now. It's not just black people. There are women, there are trans people, indigenous people who are all, I think, a lot of oppressed people kind of see white supremacy on its back foot a little bit. Like suddenly good people took a step forward and white supremacy had to take a step back for a second.
Starting point is 00:54:04 It's still there, but it definitely had to cede some ground because look at all the things that are coming down. But I think that has given I think also made people a little bit aware of like, oh, this even white supremacy is an illusion in a way. Like we don't have to fear it. Like I'm not going to fear speaking up. I'm not going to fear trying to do what's right anymore. OK, let's take a quick break and then we'll get right back to some speaking up. I'm not going to fear trying to do what's right anymore. Okay, let's take a quick break, and then we'll get right back to some interesting news. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago,
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Starting point is 00:58:20 on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And let's talk very quickly just about that PPP fund, because I think it's a very, very interesting story. There was $500 billion that was supposed to be given out to small businesses to stay afloat, basically.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And I think a lot of the time, we were reading stories about how it was either very easy to get money sometimes or very hard. Then we saw stories about how there were companies that were not even close to being considered a small business who received this money and then were basically shamed into giving it back. Now, like Judd Legum, the guy who writes the Popular Info newsletter, he was like kind of writing more on just some of the other recipients. And even when you look like, right, there's members of Congress who are receiving this money, which already just stinks of shit. Republicans and Democrats, because let's be real.
Starting point is 00:59:29 This is just this is a game for people. Like, once you get in there, you can start writing laws that help your own business. It's a money grab. Yeah. Well, just think of how many how many people like married to someone who is a fucking like titan of industry or something. It's never just like, oh, oh yeah my husband's uh you know uh a homeschool teacher that's what they do you know uh so republicans on the list uh roger williams of texas he is a wealthy business person he owns car dealerships car washes body shops he
Starting point is 00:59:58 got some of that money um vicky hartzler uh who's in missouri Missouri, her family owns a ton of farms and equipment suppliers in the Midwest. In the Democrat side, Susie Lee of Nevada. Husband is a CEO of a regional casino developer. Wow. Debbie McCarcel Powell of Florida. Her husband is an executive at a restaurant chain that has since returned the loan. How did that happen? Now, I'm not saying that you can't
Starting point is 01:00:25 have a small business and uh receive these funds but i think that when it gets all shitty right is when you start listening to how especially republicans are talking about how there's probably no more need for extra stimulus money even though there's not the the pandemic is not getting better the numbers are still rising but they oh, yeah, there's probably no need to spend any money on working people anymore. Meanwhile, we have these other companies saying, oh, yeah, we'll take a bite of that. So I want to point a little bit of attention at this lawyer who started this law firm that Harvey Weinstein, that once represented Harvey Weinstein. Who started this law firm that Harvey Weinstein, that like once represented Harvey Weinstein. That they necessarily, they don't have, there aren't any, there isn't any documentation that they received any money. But there was an email that was sent out to shareholders basically asking if they were cool with the company going out to pursue like $20 million in like relief funds.
Starting point is 01:01:23 And I believe you could only get 10 million at a time. So the way they were going to do that was with other subsidiaries to ultimately bring in $20 million to the fund. When a lot of the journalists were asking about it, they just said, oh, we don't want to comment on whether or not we received it or not. So it's not clear whether they did, but they did feel out the shareholders. Now I want to then draw your attention to the man whose law firm it is and the kind of lifestyle this man lives, who is asking us for $20 million for his fucking law firm. Not a bar that employs people who are like getting on their feet or something like that, or, you know, any kind of other job, a fucking law firm where they're charging, you know, I don't even know what the hourly rate, I can only imagine what it is. Actually, I'll look it up right now.
Starting point is 01:02:08 So the head of the law firm himself, he charges $1,850 per hour, $1,850 per hour for his services. Now his lifestyle, this was in a write-up about the wealthiest lawyers in the country, him being one of them. They say, quote, he's a millionaire many times over. The many aspects of his lifestyle reflect what I'm guessing is a nine-figure net worth in the hundreds of millions, at least. His primary residence, an 8,000-square-foot mansion on almost 10 acres, an $8 million pita tare here in New York City at the Sherry Netherland Hotel, and a racing yacht because you're nobody until you have a yacht. This is,
Starting point is 01:02:45 this is like, this is what we're talking about. Meanwhile, people with small businesses, people are out here with a very small business, right? I have a very small yacht and that's none of your business. And that's none of your business.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And that's none of your business. Okay. So that's a small business. You see what I'm saying? This adds up. This makes sense this tracks give me the money give me the money i this again this is the people who are asking for our sympathy our empathy and our money right meanwhile they are not willing to bat an eye at people who are
Starting point is 01:03:16 dying when they don't have water that will not poison them or air that is too polluted to breathe so just keep please keep this in your mind okay um okay let's move on to something ridiculous because lacy when you said this sentence out loud i said what the fuck you talking about so just i'm just you take it away lacy i don't know the whole description of what's happening was confusing confounding guys ho, you know, what do we need right now? We need entertainment. And when you think entertainment, I know you think biographies, biopics, you know. Biopics?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Biopics? Either way. I don't like biopic. Either way. I like biopic. Yeah, biopic feels like a medical procedure. People say that all the time, and I'm always like, it always bugs me. Not that like I want to say something.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I'm like, I prefer biopic. Like your bio. Right, it just makes sense. But I guess it's biography, biopic. Anyway, we digress. So guys, we've got a Princess Di movie. Iconic. A Princess Di biopic coming out, guys.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Okay. And it's starring just the person that you think of when you think of who should play Princess Die. I want you to take a moment. Let it pop into your head. Like an English actress, a young English actress, maybe someone unknown
Starting point is 01:04:38 who maybe looks exactly like Diana. I feel like she's English, yes. Those are good guesses. Alright, everyone on three, let's say it together. One, two, three. Kristen Stewart. What? Why?
Starting point is 01:04:51 Kristen Stewart is going to be playing Princess Diana. What? Oh, Kristen? Yeah. From Twilight. Vampire. Except for now she'll be saying Prince. She'll say Vampire. She'll say vampire.
Starting point is 01:05:07 She's like, I know what you are. What? I mean. This is how you know that the royals really did hate her. I mean, come on. Yeah. This is rude. This is very rude of them.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yeah. Okay, so I get it. It's about, let's say it covers a critical weekend in the early 90s when diana decided her marriage to prince charles wasn't working okay so that yes that sounds interesting i mean who more importantly who plays prince charles well not more importantly but i'm curious what kind of right if they found someone good for that could you imagine that's how they do it it's like yeah and and let's get, what's his name? Tom, what's that dude's name?
Starting point is 01:05:48 With the lips? With the lips or without the lips? Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy's with the lips. Kenneth Branagh without the lips. Ooh. Yeah, that man has no, very, very. Ben Affleck will be playing Prince Charles.
Starting point is 01:06:03 It's like, do we, we just don't care about casting at this point. I don't. Oh my God, I have not seen that. Let me get in here to play the queen. I don't know much. It's like don't care about casting at this point I don't oh my god let me get in here to play the queen I don't know much it's like it don't matter at this point I should be able to get in on this like Diana you cannot get divorced yo I would listen here you listen here you little bitch oh okay that's my impression of the queen from Essex now huh yeah like Charles is cheating on me, innit? Alright, and
Starting point is 01:06:27 you what now? Do what? With the queen? Oh, but none of that, and like... You're gonna stay married, or you're gonna take a bad limo ride, Diana. Wow, you sound like John Boyega trying to sound like he's from New Jersey,
Starting point is 01:06:43 and a New Jersey Italian. I really like this movie. I mean, I don't know much about Kristen Stewart's acting outside of that. I mean, is there a reason? Does this make sense? Lacey, you know, you're tapped into this world. You know, in Hollywood, there happens to be a thing that happens with the girls where you know once you've built up a certain amount of credits or gotten a certain amount of notoriety the studios
Starting point is 01:07:09 will start to push you on the public um you know because they feel like you're a recognizable name that's going to generate revenue now this works in certain instances like for instance um Elizabeth Moss I will watch anything that if they put her ass on. They put her face on a can. I'm going to stare at that can until I can't no more. I'm like, oh, this isn't a television. I never realized. Because she's good. I think that that was their
Starting point is 01:07:36 hope with Kristen Stewart. Obviously, they tried it with the Charlie's Angel franchise. A lot of times in Hollywood, when you see a deal come out on deadline, it's been in negotiation for at least six months to maybe even a year if it's a project that they're also personally developing. Oh, right. Because when it happens, every time someone has a deadline, then they go, finally, I can talk about this. And they're like, yeah, I was working on that for 17 years.
Starting point is 01:07:56 And you're like, oh, shit. So it might have been one of those things where in the height of the Kristen Stewart, you know, like, oh, she has all these new projects coming out. She's going to be one of the Charlie's Angels. She's in these action films or whatever. They were like, oh, also she'll play Lady Di. And then all those projects started to come out and flop. And now she's still attached to this. I also like the idea that the studio thought this was what the world needed right now.
Starting point is 01:08:20 They're like, okay, you know what? We should cast Kristen Stewart as Princess Diana. I think people need to hear that right now. They really need to hear that. I'm okay with it as long as I can play Queen Elizabeth. I just think if we're going to have radical casting. I feel the same way. Queen with a K.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Queen with a K. Queen with a K. And you're drinking out of like a chalice, a bedazzled chalice and shit. Yes, I will have my wig with the curly gray hair. I will rock it. Oh, shit. OK. But that's me.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I feel like that would go well with like Kristen Stewart's, you know, sort of like typecast of like that. I don't understand. Right. I don't understand. I'm trying to think of who would actually be. Every time there's like a casting on the show, I always engage in this exercise where I don't have the imagination to even say, well, who would?
Starting point is 01:09:09 Because I'm like, I'd have to really think about it. But I'm trying to actually think of someone, when I look at this picture of Diana, like if there is somebody who's true, like just coming with it. Chris Witherspoon. They do have kind of similar, but see, but that's where Christian Stewart and Diana
Starting point is 01:09:24 do have similar facial structures. Like I can't really hate on that. The nose is a little bit different. Is Reese the right age though? No, she's not the right age. But I would rather see her. I would rather see the,
Starting point is 01:09:37 the Reese Witherspoon typecast up against the queen. Then the Kristen Stewart typecast up against the queen. You know what I mean? The timid, like, oh, but vampires. I love both of them. And a werewolf. Like, I kind of want to see the Reese Witherspoon, like, what is happening? Right.
Starting point is 01:09:55 It certainly sounds more fun than, like, Prince Charles. I don't want to do this anymore. Have any of you read, read like her biography or anything because this must this weekend must have been fucking wild as fuck if the entire movie is just about this weekend in the early 90s and knowing like she wasn't fucking with doty till like the late 90s so what right what like what this there this must be juicy as fuck ah it's like my week with maryland or something so i'm i want to see it i mean i'm gonna i think i'll see it regardless because people love princess di i don't know who the right choice is but maybe kristen will surprise us yeah look i'm not gonna hate out the
Starting point is 01:10:34 gate but i am confounded the thing is though i guess even when you read it right this is how it's just like it covers this critical weekend right when diana decided her marriage it wasn't working and that she needed to veer from a path that put her in line to one day be queen. The drama takes place over three days and one of her final Christmas holidays in the House of Windsor. And they're sandring a mistake in Norfolk, England. So that this is about a three day. This is a three days where she said, now, fuck this. I don't want to be the fucking queen.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Are you out your fucking mind? What the fuck am i doing yeah royal weekend at bernie's right oh i mean how rad is she though to be like you know i've been given all these promises everyone says a princess's life is supposed to be like this and you know what i feel like shit all of the time and i hate this bye Bye. Yeah. Right. Like, duty is not, I think it's, because that's like you not putting your country over yourself. That's you not putting capitalism before you. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Like, if Princess Di can do it, we can all do it on a micro level. We can all do it. Man, everybody embrace your inner Princess Di. She threw the crown in the trash. I mean, that's pretty rad. Yeah. Zara, thank you so much for coming on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's always so fun for having you. Thank you for having me. Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Where can people find you and follow you, support you? You can find me at zaracomedian.com. That's Z as in Zed,
Starting point is 01:12:01 A as in Apple, H as in Hairiness, R, A as in hairiness r a as an awesome comedian dot c as in come o m let them know uh is there a tweet or any kind of social media post that you like that you wanted to shout out yes i kind of really enjoyed this tweet last night. It's from Django Gold. Okay. He said, this Chris D'Elia shit is wild, but I guess it's always the first person you suspect.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Oh, man. Yeah. What's with all those takes, though, too? It's so funny now. I feel like we're in that phase now where if we're really going to be talking about shit like this, does everybody have to get their comedic take in on these situations where we're really going to be talking about shit like this, like, does everybody have to get their, like, comedic take in on, like, these situations where we're kind of like,
Starting point is 01:12:49 yeah, dude, this motherfucker's gross, bro. Get the fuck out of here. Like, I feel like that energy's been like, get the fuck out of here. You know what? I appreciate the opportunity to just say blah and not have to have a punchline. Thank you, but.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah, and it's just weird. I mean, like, in a way, like, what about all these young, like, women he was grooming? God damn. But he played pedos in, like, a few things. And he was very good at those roles. Wow. Yeah, he was a pedophile in You,
Starting point is 01:13:20 the second season on Netflix. And that was a big story arc, because I'm not going to spoil it for y'all. But yeah, so he's a creep in that. And then he also played a pedo on Workaholics. So, you know, this was also, he was getting typecast a little bit. Well, that was another tweet people were saying was like, yeah, comedians telling themselves constantly on stage. So, you know, when people are making jokes like that, take another look.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Lacey, how about you? Where can people find you, follow you, and what's a tweet that you're liking? Guys, so you can find me on the internet. It's a D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I, Diva Lacey on all platforms. If you want to listen to my podcast, Scam Goddess, we talk about fun scams. That's Scam Goddess Pod. And Miles is actually the guest this week. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:06 So if you listen, we have a very, very fun time. Oh, yeah. Always, always fun. Please don't cancel us. No, please listen. And sorry. Fuck it. You know, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:14:15 It's 2020, man. Everything's destabilized. And speaking of loving capitalism, some of you guys love TD Bank too much. We really took a shit on TD Bank. And so many people have been reaching out. That's my bank. I love that bank. They're very real.
Starting point is 01:14:29 They are real. That bank had my baby. I make out with that bank. I'm like, y'all love this bank too much. Be nice to that bank. They're gouging me with their interest rates, but fine. Right. And then a tweet that I've been enjoying is uh from duane perkins who i adore um
Starting point is 01:14:48 he says let's normalize asking people in positions of power are you fucking stupid oh my god yes seriously though that's really what's gonna end up happening because they're gonna be these some out of touch people who don't know what time it is and they're gonna be back on their dumb shit and they're gonna be so shocked when people just clap back oh uh please everybody wake up it's time how to move forward um you can find me on twitter instagram playstation network at miles of gray also my other podcast for 20 day fiance she's getting, talking about 90 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. A tweet that I like is from at Sam D-N-T-E. It said, you weren't radicalized by your AP history teacher.
Starting point is 01:15:34 You got a two, which kind of resonated with me with someone who really loved AP history. Another one is from Asifullah. It says, at Asifullah, U-L-L-A-2-2 is his handle. It says, when your parents are on a call and they ask for a pen, man, that pressure is unreal. Because that's true. Anytime they're like, pen, pen, pen, pen, and you're like, whew. I felt that one in my bum. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist, on Instagram at The Daily Zeitgeist.
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