The Daily Zeitgeist - Sonic + Red Bull? The Safe Word is NOT "Hodor" 4.1.19

Episode Date: April 1, 2019

In episode 360, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and podcast host Robert Evans to discuss new desserts coming to Sonic and Taco Bell, Democrats keeping their mouths shut, Jared Kushner and the Saud...i's being up to no good, Betsy DeVos continuing her evil plans to destroy education in America, another possible civil war in America, Game of Thrones fight scene safe words, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Sonic becomes first chain to serve Red Bull, luring the “young, hungry male”2. Taco Bell's $1 Churro Donuts Just Beat McDonald's At Their Own Game3. Rex Tillerson stopped Saudi and UAE from 'attacking' Qatar4. QATAR SHOCKED, SHOCKED TO LEARN IT ACCIDENTALLY BAILED OUT JARED KUSHNER5. THE KUSHNERS ARE FINALLY GETTING THAT SWEET, SWEET QATARI CASH6. Betsy DeVos is at it again7. WATCH: Betsy DeVos argues that bigger class sizes are good for students8. In America, talk turns to something unspoken for 150 years: Civil war9. It Could Happen Here Podcast10. ‘Game Of Thrones’ Had A Safe Word In Case Something Went Wrong During A Battle11. Russell Crowe Explains All of His On-Set Injuries From Gladiator to Mystery, Alaska12. WATCH: WTOL TPS TESTING13. WATCH: Bibio - Old Graffiti (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 76, Episode 1 of Der Daily Zeitgeist! or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. April Fool's Day. What? Oh, wow. Woo! I gotcha. Fucking gotcha. By saying it was April Fool's Day. My friend used to just, I think he still does, just calls people and then says, gotcha, man. Fucking gotcha. Admit it.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Wow. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'll be Jack in the zeitgeist again. All the doors that opened up, opened up again. That is courtesy of one Mitch Wheeler. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Uh-oh. Here we go. I put Arsenal on my tab.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I put L.A. on the map. I put Zyke Gang on the game. They're going to remember my name. They're daily. We come with the flame. I got the green by the sack. I got the crunchy little rap. I'm as great.
Starting point is 00:03:17 How about that? Zyke. Gang. Zyke. Gang, gang, gang, gang, gang. That was a dirt bike. But I transitioned from ASAP to dirt bike. Thank you to Michael Hill at Mixalo, M-I-C-S-A-L-O, for that one.
Starting point is 00:03:33 ASAP dirt bike could be a rapper, like a sound club rapper. Yeah, I mean, they fuck with bikes out there. Yeah. Do you remember, what was it, Peso? In the Peso video, there's a little rev up sound. Mm-hmm. That actually sounded like a dirt bike. Yeah, well, wait, there's a little rev up sound. That actually sounded like a dog. Yeah, well, wait, what is a dirt bike?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Wait, I'm very confused. Wait, Anna, your dirt bike is on the floor. We've always got dirt bikes in the office pissing everywhere. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and brilliant writer, journalist, podcast host, Mr. Robert Evans.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Hey, how's it going? Hey, man. I told you, don't do those April Fool's jokes around him. He's all shook from that April Fool's. I'm sorry. I have to disagree with Miles about something, and so I was a little bit reticent, but that was clearly a chainsaw, not a dirt bike. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:04:30 That's just how it sounded, man. Let's bing, bing, bing. Yeah. What is that one? That's dirt bike. Okay. Yeah. Weird, tiny little dirt bike.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah, like an electric one that has a little two-gallon gasoline engine. Right, right, right. Robert, will you admit that I fucking got you? Yes. I did, right?. Right, right, right. Robert, will you admit that I fucking got you? Yes. I did. Right? What happened? Exactly, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Up top, bro. Up top. And by that, I mean, give me a high five. Oh, you're leaving a man. Nice. Thank you. Oh, sound effects. Robert, we're thrilled to have you on.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Well, Robert, we're thrilled to have you on in addition to just being a fascinating individual. You are the host of the biggest hit podcast on this here network, Behind the Bastards, and a new podcast called It Could Happen Here. Yes. Yeah. Two podcasts, which is like having... Mm-hmm. Shit. Nailed it with that analogy. Those are the sorts of comparisons you can hear.
Starting point is 00:05:31 It could happen here. If Behind the Bastards is like a fine Mercedes, it could happen here is like a fine Mercedes that somebody shot with a rocket-propelled grenade. Yeah. But not while you were in it. No, yeah, while you were in it. While you were watching from a safe distance.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Well, it all depends. Yeah, it's true. No, it's fascinating. We're going to talk about the subject matter a little later on the show, and we're going to get to know you a little bit better even sooner than that. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to start off with a little fast food news.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Sonic will be serving up Red Bull slushies. Taco Bell may be serving up churro donuts. Yes. They're testing that out. We're going to talk about the story of Cruella de Vos because it continues. Nice. We're going to talk about the subject of Robert's new podcast, the possibility of a second American Civil War. Yeet!
Starting point is 00:06:28 What that might look like. Did I get that in there? For the kids? Yeah. I think you got the kids' attention. I'm trying to do it for the kids. Yeah, you may have put some of them off. You nailed it.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Thank you. We should talk about that video, which is the- God, yeah. A local news team- The marking of the end times. Yeah, a local news team made a video for a bunch of high school students. It seems like they were aimed at high school students. Yeah, who were taking boards that week, and holy shit.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And then we're going to talk some Game of Thrones. But first, before we get to any of that shit, Robert, I want to hear from you. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? How to make dick candle. Nice. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:08 How to make your own dick into a candle, I'm assuming? Yeah, that's the goal, is how to mold it and then pour it in stuff. Just put a wick in the hole. Done, bro. I spent a lot of time at the doctor's, to be honest. It's my favorite kind of video. Yeah. Wait, so you're trying to make a real penis
Starting point is 00:07:25 impression candle? I haven't taken any steps, but I was curious about it. How it's even made. And so I've been looking into the process. Did you see a penis candle and you're like, oh, I can make one of those. No, it was just an idea that occurred. Just a thought that hit you? Sometimes when I'm trying to fall asleep, that's usually when I do stuff, when I
Starting point is 00:07:41 Google things that aren't specifically related to my job. It'll just be like, how would you do that? It's like when I looked into how to make liquor out of blood. That's what I Google at 1.30 in the morning when I'm trying to fall asleep. That's gross. You can make liquor out of blood? Well, no.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I wanted to know if you could. I found a discussion as to how that you could. You can out of another human bodily function, right? Guano? You can absolutely make liquor out of poop. Yeah. You can make liquor out of a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah. Oh, great. So, hey, gang out there, keep trying. Keep trying. Shoot for the moon. Shoot for the poo. So you just like- Wait.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I just want to get a- Shoot for the poon? No. I was trying to make a poo joke. Yeah, I know. That means something. Unfortunate. Coincidence.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Yeah, really sad. Just trying to get into your mind, which is a terrifying place to be. But you were just drifting off and then a candle shaped like a dick, like a photorealistic dick. Like, what are we talking yeah i thought it would be funny to give as a gift to like particularly male friends and colleagues of mine like a candle that's just like my penis but a candle oh it's your penis yeah that's what i was looking into so i wanted to know what would be involved in that process because christmas is just around the corner right um and i figure i I should start figuring that out now. And I didn't learn much because I fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I had some weird dreams. But I might get back into it. Cool. Yeah. Well, this is all fascinating stuff. What is something you think is underrated? Cigarettes. Underrated.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Cigarettes. I think not for- You heard it here first, kids. Not for young people. The secret to being cool. Not for teens and millennials. Right. But I think we should really get the boomers back on the cigarette train.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah. I think we should really push the boomers back on the cigarette train. Yeah. I think we should really push the cigarettes hard on the over 40 crowd and just kind of clear that out. Just pour cigarettes. Yeah. Free cigs. They're good now. If you're 45.
Starting point is 00:09:35 They're good for you now. So that is a population control mechanism you're saying is underrated? It's not about the population. It's more about the next couple of elections. Yeah. Oh, right, right. Okay. Yeah. Hanging a game. Oh, right, right. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Hanging again. Because then it's fun. We got to find a hook, though, if we're really going to get people like, I don't know if you saw this study at all. I think we really drive, well, no, we can't drive because the ones that really need it don't believe in climate change. This is tough. It's tough to figure out the ad campaign.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I feel like Don Draper could do it. I think if you said if every cigarette smoked brings Hillary Clinton closer to death, then people would... If America smokes an extra 150 million cigarettes, we'll indict Hillary Clinton. There you go. That's how we fucking do it. Okay. I think we know how to save this country, guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:18 If any generation is just going to hang around way too long at the party, though, I do think it's going to be the boomers. And they've already puked on the floor. Right. I was just reading. They didn't clean it up or leave.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I guess the 70s. They were all right. They got a good start in the 60s. There's a whole thing of how grandparents who are sort of the boomer and slightly older generation, the greatest generation, that because a lot of people are – like a lot of grandparents are having to enter childcare, that it's like that's this other force that's completely hollowing out retirement for baby boomers and stuff. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah. Well, a lot of people having to step in because sometimes the parents, man. Yeah, when you research – A lot of it has to do with the opioid epidemic, actually. They say that the millennials are actually closest to greatest generation, like in terms of their values. Baller status. Yeah, just like being total ballers. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:12 No, just in terms of being more civic-minded and socially-minded. Yeah, I remember when I stormed. Wanting to fuck with some Nazis. Yeah, dude. Storming the beaches of that Best Buy for Black Friday. Yeah, having to deal with Nazis. What is something you think is overrated? Well, this ties into that video we were talking about, but TV news.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I think it's a bad idea. I've come to the conclusion that maybe there's no benefit to daily TV news. Maybe it's 99% or more toxic to just our national discourse and the whole country. Maybe it's almost impossible to deliver reasonable, well-thought- out, accurate information in the format that TV news currently exists within. What is it about TV? Because this is something like I've seen really talented people have to like be forced into a TV format and it like they just like fuck it up. Like they just make them worse versions of themselves. Like I've seen, it's just like something about TV that really doesn't work except for The Simpsons. Yeah, it's the strict time constraints.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I think that's part of it. I think it's partly the ad supported thing. Although, you know, you have that with newspapers too. I think it's like just the amount that they try to cover. So you can't, like some subjects, like if you're talking about the fucking Syrian civil war, there's nothing useful you can deliver to people in 30 seconds, which is what you're going to have.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's also this conventional wisdom that took over that was just like, no, you got to keep their eyes and brains buzzing with new changes and bright flashing shit every four seconds. Wasn't that anecdote about Bill Shine when he was working at Fox was just like, there was a fire at a building and he just made all the coverage just about the fire and he's like, just show the fire.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah. Just show the fire. That's all they want. They want that motion. Because it's really not about informing people. No. It's just about how do you tap into their fears or ideologies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It's one of those things like the fucking Momo thing that came up. That was like a big TV news thing. I don't think if it was all newspapers and online articles and stuff like, yeah, there would have been some sensational bullshit. But like none of like the legacy, like the legacy TV media ran with that to an extent. Like the New York Times, any reporter who's worth his salt who starts looking at that is going to learn like 20 seconds. Oh, this is nothing. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Okay. Well, that's the story that this is nothing. Yeah. Oh, this is nothing. Okay, well, that's the story, that this is nothing. Yeah. I mean, I think from a cultural perspective, Momo was interesting because it was a monster face that you got to put on something that really is out there and terrible, which is like the children's entertainment on the internet is really fucked. And so they were just like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Oh, that was the thing that was allegedly a video that was convincing kids to murder their families. Yeah, which is a thing that people on YouTube have tried to do. It just wasn't real with like, Momo had nothing to do with it. It wasn't a widespread thing. It was just a weird Japanese art piece. Nobody had been hurt or killed or anything. But there is just not, just heaps and heaps of garbage
Starting point is 00:14:02 that know exactly how to hypnotize two-year-olds. Yeah, I guess. And their parents are just like, yeah, here you go. Here's a smartphone. Yeah, that feeds into my issue more than just TV news. It's just like the amount of poison that people ingest via their eyes that we're all just like, yeah, this is just the way it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 How else could it be? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, your brain diet we've talked before we've talked we've talked before about how like people think about their diet a little bit more constructively now but we should also be thinking about our media diet yeah i would think about that like purify yeah like because i watch a lot of trash shows yeah and i realized too like i'm mainlining just a lot of
Starting point is 00:14:43 vapid conflict like on its surface the energy that's coming off the screen is just negative. Yeah. That's why I was like, I was having to starting to triage my garbage TV. Cause I'm like, I can't just keep giving it that. Like I have to balance it out with something. Cause I realized like I'm, I'm actually in the midst of an experiment to see like, if I just only keep it to messes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I like messy drama on a reality show. But shit where it's just people being like, this person fucking sucks. That shit, I realize I'm like, the more I watch that, subtly, I mean, not that I'm, I think I'm more stupid for only figuring this out now or just sort of being aware of it,
Starting point is 00:15:18 how much that sort of can affect my mood a little bit, even on a very subconscious level. Even though I'm not fully buying into what I'm seeing. It's just that that's what I'm giving myself. So, you know, I switched it up. Then I watch, you know, Muppets and shit. Yeah. Muppets.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Now I only watch Sesame Street. It's really Muppets. It's like a salad. It's like swung the other way. I'm like, yo, I. Mr. Rogers neighborhood. I got to. It feels relaxing.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, it is. You know? You just got to know what you're giving yourself. Yeah. Like I've noticed there are certain podcasts that if I watch, I feel like. You listen to them. No, I watch them. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Damn. Just watch the cursor. You got six cents over here. There are certain podcasts that if I listen to them, I will feel like garbage after. It's just, yeah, it's the same thing as fast food. It's just like you have to pay attention to how different things you're putting into your brain make you feel and affect you. Because I went on a streak of watching old Dateline episodes on YouTube like two years ago. It was all I was watching for like maybe a three-week period because I was just like, yes, bro, more, more.
Starting point is 00:16:25 That's terrible. And it had me fucking all kinds of fuck. Like I became a little more susceptible to paranoia or just like, or my confirmation bias was a little more centered around like the really dark shit. Yep. And I was like, oh yeah, because I'm just eating, that's what I'm eating all day.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Yeah, I can say, like people ask me all the time because of Behind the Bastards, I'm always reading about like terrible people. Like, doesn't that fuck you up? And I joke about like, yeah, so I do a bunch of drugs. But like the reality is that- the Bastards, I'm always reading about terrible people. Like, doesn't that fuck you up? And I joke about like, yeah, so I do a bunch of drugs. You're like, I'm already fucked up. The reality is that reading a good book about a guy like Hitler or a guy like Stalin or one of these terrible people, that doesn't put me in a bad place. If it's really good work, it's edifying.
Starting point is 00:16:59 You learn something. I feel better after it. I feel bad on Twitter and YouTube and stuff. Those make me feel like shit. Nothing has convinced me to go buy more guns than bad Twitter binges where I'm like, oh my God, everything's falling apart. Right, right, right. And that is sort of your vice, or one of your vices. Yeah, that is definitely one. Gun buying. Oh, no, gun buying. I mean, shooting is a relatively healthy hobby, I would consider it. It's like a technical skill.
Starting point is 00:17:28 You get out of the house, you do something. Gun buying is debatably healthy, but the actual act of getting better at a physical task, I think, is usually a good thing. Right. But the fact that your backyard looks like that bunker from Terminator 2 that the people have been building up, getting ready for the coming of Skynet. They haven't found the mailman, so technically no one can connect that to anything I may or may not have fired on in the
Starting point is 00:17:54 night. There you go. I have no idea what you're talking about, but what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? That you just have to let the cops arrest people. You hear about this story from Chicago? Where two Chicago PD officers were trying to arrest this guy for drugs and all of his friends came out in the street and forced them to let him out and give him back his drugs what yeah this like crowd surrounded these cops and we're like nah like where in fucking chicago
Starting point is 00:18:19 was this recently i think it was chicago yeah like chicago like crowd forces police to let suspect go or something like that. Should bring it up. I just read about it yesterday. And yeah, I think people have this. That's the version of the sovereign citizen thing that actually works. Yeah, well. It's numbers.
Starting point is 00:18:38 A horde of angry people being like, no, guys. Right. Like this ain't happening today. Yeah. Is it? I see it on a Blue Lives Matter. Oh, wait, no. Let me go to the Chicago Tribune. Yeah, go to the Chicago, guys. Right. Like, this ain't happening today. Yeah. Is it? I see it on a Blue Lives Matter. Oh, wait, no. Let me go to the Chicago Tribune.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yeah, go to the Chicago Tribune. Drug suspect escapes after group threatened Chicago cop on West Side. Isn't that fucking great? Said they were searching for a drug suspect who escaped arrest when a group of men threatened to harm the officer taking him into custody on the city's West Side. Wow. Yeah. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Just do that. Don't let them arrest your friends Yeah Also don't get shot Don't get shot Yeah But if there's more of you Than there are bullets
Starting point is 00:19:10 Simple math huh Simple math Wow That is so Isn't that a great story That's just the kind of shit That you see in a movie Right
Starting point is 00:19:18 Where I mean look I think they're just trying to get this guy Because they saw him do a little Hand to hand drug transaction And All part of the drug war People were not having that shit And I think they were just trying to get this guy because they saw him do a little hand-to-hand drug transaction. All part of the drug war. People were not having that shit, and I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's like the end of training day, you know? Yeah. He thought he could keep bad copping it out here, but his whole neighborhood was just standing up there waiting for him. I'm King Kong, you can't kill me. No, but isn't there something where he's like, shot? And he's like, you motherfucker. There's something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:44 There's something great. Great movie. Let's talk like shot and he's like, you motherfucker. There's something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something great. Great movie. Let's talk about Red Bull slushies. It reminds me of when I was interviewing for this job. Yeah, that's right. And you're like, oh, Miles, I didn't know you liked to get wet. I was like, what? Sherm.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah, he's smoking that Sherm. All right, Sherm Hemsley. I don't understand any of this conversation. In training day, he forces Ethan Hawke to smoke fucking PCP and he says some other shit when he smokes. He's like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:20:07 He goes, oh, I didn't know you liked to get wet. Tricked him into smoking it. Oh, shit. And then on the Chappelle show, Wayne Brady episode too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Similar. We should do an episode of this show on PCP. Yeah, definitely. You know what? Just as a side note, in Dare, I don't know if you remember Dare,
Starting point is 00:20:24 in Dare, the cops would always be like, man, PCP, I see people start up PCP. yeah you know what just just a side note in dare i don't know if you remember dare uh in dare the cops would always be like man pcp i see people yeah they're so strong this guy lifted a dumpster over his head and threw it through a squad car can i tell you since youtube fucking came out even live leak i have been searching for pcp superman videos cannot find him the closest i've come is that clip of the bachelor jumping over that fence. And I don't think he was on PCP. I think that was just pure embarrassment. You know what that is? PCP, pure commitment
Starting point is 00:20:52 phobia. Oh! Wow! That is incredible. And that has been my time. There needs to be an award for what you did. Like a trophy or something. Yeah, it's called My Mom Gone. Hmm, still doing that?
Starting point is 00:21:06 How's that working out for you? Yeah, I've been winning it 14 years in a row now. All right. Let's talk about Red Bull Slushies. Sonic will start serving them to young, hungry males
Starting point is 00:21:19 is apparently what they... That's like the language they're using. See, and if we're going to serve this poison to young people, why not try to get old people back on cigarettes? Right. That's like the language they're using. See, and if we're going to serve this poison to young people, why not try to get old people back on cigarettes? Right.
Starting point is 00:21:28 That's all I'm saying. Right. Red Bull Slush, it's like, oh, wait, and your Boomer? Yeah. Here's your pack of- Here's a free Marlboro. Yeah. Filterless Reds.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So, yeah. Apparently, they're really trying to- What they say, there's like a so-called young, hungry male demographic that is the one that is basically the most loyal to the fast food industry as a whole. And they're realizing, wait, the caffeine heavy drinks too? Because a lot of people, if you're doing drive-thru along road trips or something, yeah, you maybe want to pop in for a Red Bull slushy is the one part that gets me a little odd or puts me off a little bit. It's going to taste like cancer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I mean, that is the Red Bull flavor is cancer. Red Bull already doesn't taste pleasant to me. Like it's fine. It's going to taste like cancer. Yeah, I mean... That is the Red Bull flavor, is cancer. Red Bull already doesn't taste pleasant to me. Like, it's fine, it's palatable, but it's not like, I'm like, ooh. It's medicine. It tastes literally like medicine. Every Red Bull I've ever agreed to drink has tasted, like, the only way I can describe it is necessary. What about
Starting point is 00:22:19 the ones you didn't agree to drink? Yeah, it's because somebody fucked with me. Waterboarding with Red Bull? Oh, God. You want to drink? No, I didn't agree to drink. Yeah, it's because somebody fucked with me. Waterboarding with Red Bull? Oh, God. You want to drink? No, I didn't want to fuck with you. Yeah, Jack just made us pound Red Bull and vodkas. Yeah, I used to drink the diet ones, man. My chest would just be...
Starting point is 00:22:36 Just rocking, rumping and a-tumping? Rumping and a-tumping. I think that's a fun way to describe a heart attack. It's only easy to drink if you've just read something about climate change, and then you're like, yeah, fuck it, why not? Why not take an extra red bull? Suddenly you're doing metal blast beats with your heart.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Anyway, so this is kind of part of Sonic's whole thing. They're doing what every other fast food chain isn't doing, and they're leaning in the opposite direction of health. Everyone is down trying to be like, here's, you know, we got wholesome ingredients or whatever. Sonic is like, fuck that. Yeah. Right now, they have what you do.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Fuck your health. Yeah. Fuck your health. Fuck you. We're coming for your throat and your arteries. You don't come to Sonic because you want to live long. Of course. You can come here to party.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Come to Sonic and get fucked in the heart. Fucked in the heart. Anyway, so, because right now, they have an all day like bacon and fried egg top they called a brunch burger god there's a double stuff oreo waffle cone they're working on broccoli cheese tots how is that not murder i don't know but like when the vice president of yeah when they asked them when they asked the vice president of product at sonic about it he was like i don't know why we would do a salad, but we can do some tots. And it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 But I guess that's the thing. Because prior to people becoming aware of fucking cholesterol or sodium and shit, fast food was a race to the bottom of who can make the wackiest fucking food. Who can fit the most foods in the smallest container. And I think that's sort of on one side of it, you have health conscious people, but then there are people who are out here who absolutely love or want to try, like me, the grossest stuff, because that's the fun of fast food. It's for the rolling coal demographic. The people who modify their cars to put out extra smog.
Starting point is 00:24:20 That was my first job with Sonic. Oh, really? I was there for a week before I got a job at Barnes & Noble, and I never even picked up my paycheck. Wow. It was so bad. What a trajectory. It's so much. Sonic went to Barnes & Noble.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And you were one of the roller skating waiters, right? No. No, I was one of the fucking inside guys. Inside guys. Inside guy. It was bad. Inside trader. Was it?
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah. It was terrible. Just because working in fast food in general. Yeah, yeah. I think it might be particularly bad. In terms of the quality of food or transgressions you witnessed? Yeah. It was just from the inside of a Sonic.
Starting point is 00:24:56 You can't trick yourself into thinking it's not poison because the smell is very clearly poison. Like the inside of a Sonic smells like death. Like formaldehyde. Yeah. The place smells like the inside of a Sonic smells like death. Like formaldehyde? Yeah. Place smells like the inside of a Sonic. Active Warzone smell less toxic. Wow. Than the inside of a Sonic.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And you would know you've spent some time in Active Warzone. I prefer that scent. Also, just briefly, Taco Bell is testing out a churro donut that looks kind of delicious. Thank you. That's a great idea. That's a great idea. That's a great idea. That's just a palate cleanser for us going into the break, that we have something that we want to eat.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I'll even eat those cinnamon twists. Absolutely. I love it all. Well, this seems like a donut made of the cinnamon twists. Man, the caramel apple empanada. Woo! Yeah, no shade on Taco Bell ever. Never.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And you know what? In a way, that's what I'm saying. I kind of take my hat off to Sonic, because they know there's a group of people who are willing to go there and Sonic is for those people. Unless they want to give us a lot of money in which case Sonic is for everyone.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Sonic is for everyone, yep. Sonic is for the people. Alright, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurarts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. podcasts from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner.
Starting point is 00:27:28 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary,
Starting point is 00:27:38 but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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Starting point is 00:29:14 foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be
Starting point is 00:29:38 sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And we spent the break, uh, producer on a hose and yay informing Robert of where he could get a, uh, I guess a, a screen accurate rendering of your, uh, penis or candle purposes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Or bespoke penis candle, penis candles. Yeah, there you go. You just figured out the name of our new box company. Every month, a new different person's dick has a candle in your box. Just a
Starting point is 00:30:30 different person. Oh, that's what you do. Not famous people. It's just like, Craig. Here's a picture of him on his front porch. Just waving his hands. This is tennis pro David from Coral Gables. VCs out there, if you give us, what, six million?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yeah. Six million, we can get this shit off the ground. Weird dicks of America. Like, that would be a special series, guys, with kind of weird dicks. Yeah. But what's weird? You know what I mean? Yeah, no, all dicks are pretty strange.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And the candling process teaches us all that. Yes. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. We mentioned the Betsy DeVos thing, but in addition to defunding Special Olympics, she also was testifying about her theory that fewer teachers and bigger classes are actually a good thing. Yeah, well, because all her budget, they're like, you're cutting so much money.
Starting point is 00:31:26 How do you explain this? And she was saying, you know, like in her written testimony before she went to go basically try and defend her hideous budget, there was a quote from her written testimony that says, there's no evidence that the federal taxpayer investments in existing professional development programs or class size reduction have meaningfully improved student outcomes. And people were like, what? In fact, students may be better served by being in larger classes if by hiring fewer teachers, a district or state can better compensate those who have demonstrated high ability and outstanding results. So anyway, the chairwoman, I believe, asked her, can you run me through that again? And then asks for a thing that Republicans aren't used to presenting, which is some kind of study or facts to back up their assertion.
Starting point is 00:32:10 In your testimony, you stated the following, and I quote, students may be better served by being in larger classes if by hiring fewer teachers, a district or state can better compensate those who have demonstrated high quality and outstanding results. End of quote. This is contrary to decades of longstanding credible research like the student-teacher achievement ratio that actually recommended on average student-teacher ratio to be 15 to 1. So what evidence-based research do you have to back your statement? Well, that must be in my written testimony, and I would just comment to the fact that given education freedom initiatives, there are different kinds of environments in which students learn well. Some students can learn better with larger classes, with more students to
Starting point is 00:33:05 collaborate with, to learn with, and others in smaller... Can you just cite what research you're using to make that... There's plenty of research that will undergird the fact that mandating a specific class size doesn't yield results. I would be happy to have, if you submit a question for the record, I will be happy to do so. That's what she's asking right now. Yeah. Like, way to come prepared. If you ask a question again, eventually I will continue to not have it.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Okay, I'm going to have to punt on this one. Can you just put it on a Post-it for me? Right. And I'll come get it at the end and I'll try and get back to you but you know that the idea that they're gonna collaborate with that you're like what your other fucking uh eight-year-old friend is gonna teach you some shit that you didn't know without the teacher yeah but the teacher will be so good and so well paid right yeah but we're also cutting in the mercedes right right well you don't need as much money because we're gosh it's you guys really aren't getting this.
Starting point is 00:34:05 How do I put this? Well, yeah, I guess the logic is get rid of the shitty teachers, get the superstar teachers, give them their money, and then let them teach 700 kids at once. Right. Yeah, just a big school house. Go back to the days where it was one teacher and then the entire town's kids.
Starting point is 00:34:24 In one room. Yeah. What are y'all doing over here? Hear me out then the entire town's kids. In one room. Yeah. What are y'all doing over here? Hear me out, fellas. Uh-oh. Oh, boy. Now that Skype exists. Now that what?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Skype exists. What if we find the best teacher? One teacher. We pay them a lot of money. And they just teach all the kids. One teacher, all the students. One teacher to rule them all. One teacher to rule them all.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And then you just have little squadrons of kids who then teach each other. You know what? I Betsy DeVos. I could be the one teacher because all they need to know is that Amway is a fantastic way to make money. And this is a great way for you to
Starting point is 00:34:59 become financially independent. An incredible opportunity. I mean, I want to ask you this, ma'am. You're a mother, right? And you probably want to set a great example for your daughter. What better way to then show her that your freedom isn't tied to your husband's? And you can do it with a fraction of the time investment that your husband does putting in a 40-hour week. Is that the Amway?
Starting point is 00:35:18 I mean, I bet that's the type of shit. What if kids were learning that instead of all this? Well, Robert has me in my scammer mood right now. Kids need to be learning the important truth about an Amway and not nonsense about the Second World War and how authoritarian regimes arise in democratic countries. Are we still talking about slavery? Why do we even teach them about that and not the opportunities provided by Amway? I would like to actually tell you about another form of slavery that's being dependent on these other companies for your goods and services. The real Emancipation Proclamation is inside the $150 Amway starter ship.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I like to call it the Amway-cipation Proclamation. Oh, Christ. That's so close to the truth. Yeah, right. Speaking of the Emancipation Proclamation, the Civil War, eh? Yeah. Great, good time. That was a smooth transition.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Seems like we really got it out of our sights. We had a lot of momentum going on that one, Jack. I do want to talk about the possibility of a second American Civil War. This is the subject of your new podcast, It Could Happen Here, which people can go subscribe to now on their podcast listening platform of their choosing. But so can you kind of talk, I mean, this seems like a thing that I'm hearing more and more from like people on both sides of the divide, like talking about, okay, I thought it was crazy a couple of years ago and now like, I think it's less crazy basically um yeah and what one
Starting point is 00:36:48 of the things that jumped out to me in the first episode is just like some of the audio you have of people on the right like i don't think people literally calling to murder their political enemies yeah yeah it's it's pretty wild yeah that's a thing. There's so much of it. Trump kind of did it implicitly like a week ago when he was saying that like he- The bikers for Trump. Right, he has the bikers for Trump and the military. And if they push too far, it's going to be very, very, very bad. And there's just a little story behind that.
Starting point is 00:37:20 When we were going through the drafts of the first episode, I didn't initially have a lot in there about the potential of the president calling on militias and his armed supporters in order to like keep him in power and you were like you should talk a little bit more about that and i i felt awkward writing it because i was like this just seems like a step too far and then he said that and then he did it and it was like oh well i guess i guess i could just pop this all in right i guess what do you say right to people who are kind of like okay everything seems very stable now what is the road map or what are the events that could possibly lead to it because i think the whole point of your show right like the idea of that it could happen here is that as americans
Starting point is 00:38:01 we tend to think of civil wars and things like that as things that are happening in like the developing world or and just I mean, come on, it's the U.S. Like, you know, people people like their shit too much to try and fight each other in the streets. But what are the I guess the different versions? Because I think a lot of people think like, is it going to be like coastal versus whatever? Like, you know, like what are the divisions that you see? It would be a bunch of different small groups popping up in different chunks of the country
Starting point is 00:38:24 carrying out attacks with the goal of making the country ungovernable because that's how war works now. That was essentially before they seized a bunch of territory. The sort of book that ISIS's whole fucking thing was based off of that like led to the tactics that led to them seizing an area larger than England and Syria and Iraq is a book called The Management of Savagery. And the idea is that you don't try to oppose a national military by just starting off by trying to raise an army and fight it in the field like the South did back in 1861. You try to render the country ungovernable so that order breaks down and then you can seize control. And like that actually works pretty well. And I think the United States is in a situation where as stable and as much money as we have, we also have a lot of ingredients that could lead to a really ugly insurgency that could render the country ungovernable. Like they try to think about like how much of guys with AR-15s
Starting point is 00:39:13 could fight the US military. And like my answer to that is, look at fucking Afghanistan. And now think about Appalachia. Think about what a couple of thousand guys who are really committed to fucking with the government could do just in that one chunk of the country and how hard it would be to root them out, how much money it would cost, how many civilians would die, what that would do to people's faith in the federal government, their ability to trust it, like the repercussions that would have around the country, the other groups that would inspire. They just arrested 40 neo-Nazis in Florida with a rocket launcher. Like there's groups of people who have the physical infrastructure necessary if other people in the country were doing it. I was just going to say, if people were talking about white supremacists
Starting point is 00:39:54 as a unitary block the way they think about Islamic terrorists, then I feel like they would sort of recognize them as a bigger danger yeah and then they are but because the American media and the American brain has a tendency to just be like oh a white terrorist well that's one of clearly just a random guy right how'd that happen right exactly It's always treated as a one-off instead of vanilla ISIS. Yeah, and vanilla ISIS is a great, great term. Wow. Vanilla ISIS. Oh, that's even better than Yalkata. Yalkata?
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah. Yalkata. Oh, wow. But we're fucked. Yeah, we're fucked. Real quick, though, I do want to hear, because you have some quotes in here from people who, like the right is openly saying they will kill liberals
Starting point is 00:40:55 if they try to impeach Trump, and I think we have a clip of that. Yeah, we have a clip of one of the more extreme people on the right. Right, yeah. Alex Jones. A certain Mr. Alex Jones. You're trying to start a civil war with people. You're taking our kindness for weakness.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Do you understand the American people will kill all of you if you want a real war? A 1776. I'm not the one that's calling for violence. You're going to get wrecked bad. I don't want a war. I don't need some coming of age deal to kill a bunch of liberals i just can't but i also feel like i'm in dereliction of as a citizen of my duty not saying we have to start getting ready for insurrection and civil war in that instance what are the sides the diametrically opposed sides
Starting point is 00:41:41 that alex jones like is it liberals that he's just thinking people with their npr bags are going to just pull up and try and you know bore him to death with he's talking about like the potential of like what if they try to impeach president trump or try to what if you know they he voted out of office and what surely the far right would consider to be an illegitimate election you know i think one thing even more than alex jones because his popularity is a little bit on the wane, although he still speaks to hundreds of thousands of people every month, I think one thing you have to really take seriously is the growth of the QAnon conspiracy. There's a great journalist called Ben Collins, who's been covering it pretty heavily, who
Starting point is 00:42:16 just posted pictures from outside of a Trump rally, where there were like 100 some odd people all in Q regalia out there. And the easiest thing in the world even easier than finding Alex Jones talking about wanting to kill liberals is finding QAnon fans talking about wanting to murder people like when it because they believe that like everyone against Trump is part of a vast
Starting point is 00:42:35 pedophilic conspiracy that's also like the reason why they're not rich like it's it's this whole multifaceted weird cult but like it's growing it's not stopping It's not stopping. It's spreading outside of the United States. I have friends in London who are talking to me about seeing fucking more Q stuff at protests. It's this new kind of cult that we haven't really dealt with before where there's no
Starting point is 00:42:57 head and no organization, but these groups of people radicalizing each other. I just found my neighborhood papered in like QAnon flyers. Yeah. Like it's fucking scary. And I will guarantee you all of those people own guns. Yeah. Well, no, I think we even, oh, I don't know if we spoke about it,
Starting point is 00:43:16 but there was that one QAnon conspiracy theorist who was really getting frazzled over the lack of arrests that were happening because they were like, we were promised. Things were going to happen. And her worry was like, I'm afraid if these arrests don't come, we're going to have to go and knock down John Podesta's door. Right. So they think that Robert Mueller is going to come in and arrest Barack Obama or something. Trump is able to round these people up.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And John Podesta is part of it. And I think that's what they're saying. So she was saying, if Robert Mueller doesn't start arresting the Clintons and the Obamas and John Podesta, not, I will therefore realize my conspiracy theory is insane. It is, I will then have to go start killing people myself. Well, it's like that guy who blocked one of the numerous now terrorist or attempted terrorist attacks that almost ended in bloodshed was the guy who like parked his armored vehicle on the Hoover Dam filled with guns and tried to block off access to the Hoover Dam until President Trump unleashed these sealed indictments he believes exists. Right. And the president retweeted one of these people a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't about a QAnon thing, but it was a very prominent conspiracy. And it's like. That was on that weekend where he did like 50 tweets. What are you fucking playing with, buddy? Did you just not notice it or are you fucking playing with something really goddamn dangerous? Like, I don't know what that dude.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Right. to create a huge civil war-sized conflict or a civil insurrection if he thinks it's an existential issue regarding his claim to power. And I really think, I mean, Michael Cohen during his testimony specifically said he does not think there's any chance that there will be... He said, given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, that there will never be a peaceful transition of power. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I mean, who knows him better than that? And like, I don't know. That's a thing to be scared of. And it's part of why... Oh, absolutely. I worry when people like Elizabeth Warren says stuff like, I don't even know if he'll be a free man in 2020 because it's like like fucking nixon i'm sure he deserved to be in prison but like that's why we don't do that in this country we don't we don't jail or even when they commit crimes and like you can argue that maybe we ought to but also like
Starting point is 00:45:39 part of why we don't is because that's why we've had so many peaceful transitions of power because we know we're not going to go after you even if you do commit a bunch of war crimes. Like that's just – It's the American way. It's fucked up. But maybe it's better than having all the civil wars that the Romans used to have when they would do shit like that. Like I don't know. But there's an argument to be made. And like, I think everyone, like right now, we're all hanging out in like a warehouse filled with gasoline soaked rags, and everybody's playing with matches and yelling at
Starting point is 00:46:09 everybody else for playing. Stop playing with matches as they throw them around the room. I taped 50 matches together. Watch this one. Hey, you stop it. So yeah, and you get into a lot more detail and like, you know, what the various versions of a civil war could look like in america because it wouldn't look like you've spent time in active war zones in other countries and it doesn't look like one side versus the other right no i mean mostly just looks like a bunch of people trying to go about their day and sometimes things explode right explodes yeah and like or
Starting point is 00:46:40 they you're just there's always shooting going on nearby and you're just like well it's been pretty nice in my neighborhood for a while. I hope that continues. I got to go pick up shit from the store. Yeah. It's just life for most people. And unless you've got some sort of hardcore plan and desire to go out shooting, most people will probably just try to keep their shit together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Just keep your eyes low. Yeah. Don't make a big thing and hope it ends. Yeah, just keep your eyes low. Yeah, don't make a big thing and hope it ends, which is why so many civil wars end with a dictator in charge, like in Syria, where eventually enough people are like, I just want it to be over.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah. They're like, fine, this guy promised no more shooting. Yeah. Right. Look, when I listened to the episode, the trailer, I was freaked the fuck out. Yeah. Because it's a very, very troubling idea to try and have to wrestle with that that level of instability and violence could actually just fuck out. I mean, not like, cause it's a very, very troubling idea to try and have to wrestle with that, like that level of instability and violence could actually just break out in the
Starting point is 00:47:30 United States. And your, I know your intention is not to freak people out or just be necessarily fear-mongering, but I think it's, it's a, what is sort of your goal, I think, in presenting people with this information? I'm trying to think of it sort of like a, like a vaccine in the hopes that like, if you, if you talk about this enough and get this out enough to people and like get this idea in people's heads of like how much of it – and rather than just talk about a civil war and like this like, yeah, and you should buy this, you should buy that. It's like this sort of aspirational thing, which it's been on the far right for a while. You talk about how much it would suck, exactly what would happen, exactly how difficult it would be to contain once it gets started. it would suck, exactly what would happen, exactly how difficult it would be to contain once it gets started. And then at the end, the last episode is going to be trying to talk about the concrete actions
Starting point is 00:48:10 people can take to try to make it less likely. The goal of this is to inform people of the danger. It's not fear-mongering in the way that if I see that you're looking at your phone while you're driving and you turn a corner and are headed towards a wall, if I say, Miles, there's a fucking wall. like that's the goal like that's the goal is to be like there's a fucking wall out there and like maybe maybe look at the wall and and see if that see about pumping them because i think that's sort of the the effect it has is because it's sort of you're able to sort of concretely see what a reality like that could look like and we already do i think as americans you try not to
Starting point is 00:48:47 ever entertain that because it's just a chilling thought but when you look at sort of the kind of rhetoric that's happening it's something definitely that like people have increasingly become you know afraid of especially with the increased number of like violent attacks and the sort of ideology of the, of these people. Uh, I mean the, the idea that this is kind of a first time that somebody is really bringing up the possibility of a second American civil war in like sort of center to left media is like not first time anyone's bringing it up, but really like think about it.
Starting point is 00:49:24 2016 with that crack dart. Right. Yeah. But this is something that has been talked about on the right constantly for years and years. Since I was fucking 18 and going to gun shows in Texas. It was like the only thing people talked about. They've been horny for a civil war for so long.
Starting point is 00:49:40 So that's also something that your show helped me realize. And it's a real win-win for me from a content creator standpoint, because if there is a civil war, then I'm the guy who called it. And if there's not a civil war, then I get to take credit for there not being a civil war. I saved everybody's lives. That's great. It really works out great for me one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:49:57 You're also the one who's most well-prepared, since you have that stash of heavy artillery in your backyard. I mean, look, I'm going to say, I'm sorry, Robert, but if there is no Civil War, I'm going to have to give that up to Kendall Jenner. She did hand that cop a Pepsi.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I know you might want to point to this podcast as maybe being there, but I see that as the real origin point. Aliens in 1,500 years, and that's the point at which Earth began to heal. Right. We're like, we're worshiping a golden statue of Kendall Jenner in the Pepsi commercial.
Starting point is 00:50:31 That did change things, man. It did. Can you picture the Pepsi ad executives thinking about 20 years from now, man? This is going to be a moment. This is going to be a moment. This is going to be a cultural watershed. It's a moan, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:46 It's like when Apple stopped 1984 from happening in 1984 by doing that ad. That commercial titled 1984. We broke the fuck out. Yeah, and fortunately, smartphones have saved us and made us completely impervious to authoritarian oversight. And so happy. Super, super cool utopia they brought us.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yes. Yeah. Super cool utopia. Your next podcast. All right, we're going to they brought us. Yes. Super cool utopia. Your next podcast. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered.
Starting point is 00:51:21 There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.
Starting point is 00:52:44 What is it, like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:53:51 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:54:42 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And a couple interesting details from the Game of Thrones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:18 From behind the scenes. Ooh. Yeah. If you've watched Game of Thrones, you know there are some pretty intense battle scenes. Gnar. Yeah, Gnar Gnar. Sickie Gnar. Kind of on par with movies like Gladiator, Braveheart, Lord of the Rings,
Starting point is 00:55:36 except not like Braveheart when in the background you can see the guys faking and like playing. Have you seen that? Yeah, there's a great one where like it cuts. Like fake sword fighting? Yeah, yeah. It's like they heard someone yell cut or something, so they like do like.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Oh, just stopped? Yeah, stopped. Oh, like they're just dicking around? Yeah. They're clearly having fun with it. Oh, I love it. I mean, look, it's hard to get fucking what, like hundreds of actors on the same page.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah. Especially in a battle scene. Well, I think that's what's kind of interesting about those Game of Thrones ones is that, I mean, we've heard little things from the set. And remarkably, it doesn't seem like a horribly injury-riddled set. I mean, there are injuries. But, for example, like in Gladiator, Russell Crowe broke his entire body. He lost all feeling in his right forefinger for two years because of a sword fight thing that went wrong.
Starting point is 00:56:26 He aggravated an Achilles tendon injury. He broke a foot bone, cracked his hip bone, popped a few bicep tendons out of their sockets. He was fucked up from these scenes. And, you know, like, the good scenes, they look intense. It's a great looking movie. Viggo Mortensen,
Starting point is 00:56:42 the same thing in the first Lord of the Rings movie. He broke his foot. You can see on his face that. He broke his foot kicking. You can see on his face that he just broke his foot. He screams out. It kind of works in the scene. It really does. It's what they lost.
Starting point is 00:56:54 It's right after Boromir dies. He's like, ah. Ah, kicks it and yelps. He lost a couple weeks of filming is what they lost. Hey, am I right? The producer over here. Am I right? Hey, we're falling behind, man. So we find out from the stunt coordinator, like Game of Thrones,
Starting point is 00:57:09 they basically, like any risky situation involving many people, like a massive battle scene or retirement home orgy, they use safe words to make sure that nobody is hurt. Because a lot of these scenes, you know, people are like, like it's just chaos, but they have little safe words. So according to one of the stunt coordinators, Raleigh Earlham, they said that they keep the set safe by using a safe word. When we're doing these battles and people are screaming and crying and dying, you might
Starting point is 00:57:37 not know if someone's in trouble, he explains. So our safe word has always been banana. So if someone started shouting banana at the top of their voice, you'd know they're in trouble. That's interesting. So someone's just having to listen out like set medics and like the AD or whoever is just being like, hmm, right here, hmm, no.
Starting point is 00:57:51 That's interesting because that might be an insight that bananas don't exist in the Game of Thrones universe. Oh, wow. Because otherwise, why wouldn't they be saying banana? Yeah. If you're staying in character. I mean, I think it's just more to signal to the crew. No, but think about it, Miles. I want you're staying in character. I mean, I think it's just more to signal to the crew. No, but like,
Starting point is 00:58:05 think about it, Miles. I want you to think about it. What do dying soldiers always scream on the battlefield? Banana! Banana. Exactly. As chillingly brought to life in Saving Private Ryan.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Somebody tell my wife, banana. Yeah. So work smarter, not harder. safe words aren't just for retirement home orgies, Miles. I know.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Why did you take us to a retirement home? I can only use what's in my wheelhouse. Oh, okay. So that's your kick. His retirement home orgies? Yeah. I will not yuck your yum. No, please don't.
Starting point is 00:58:36 All right. And finally. All right. Now, with a retirement home orgy, Miles, I got to ask, is it a Vaseline situation? Oh, yeah. What is your – because you need that extra, like the fucking – the Walgreens lube ain't got it. Hey, man, you ever try skiing in a rock quarry? It ain't happening, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Oh, God. Skiing in a rock quarry. Also, you – No way. No, you said that, and that is forever. Yeah, it is. You ever try skiing in a rock quarry, holy shit. What a sick fuck.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Anyway. All right, I gotta go. Well, Robert, it has been a damn pleasure having you, as always. Yeah, it's been a pleasure to be here. Where can people find you? On the twits, tweet box, the twatter, at I Write Okay. And I have a podcast called behind the bastards it's a podcast
Starting point is 00:59:28 never heard of bad people talk about them and also it could happen here about how it could happen here oh hey it could happen remember Mick world no we're supposed from the 90s oh yeah it could
Starting point is 00:59:43 happen yeah because it's all the fantasies that kids have. Yeah. Okay, yeah. I thought you were singing the Guns N' Roses Civil War song. Oh, no. I don't need your Civil War. Talking about my racist dream of an Irish takeover of the planet.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Wow. What? McWorld. Oh, McWorld. Racist against my people. No, no, against all other people. Oh, McWorld. Racist against my people. No, no, against all other people. Oh, yeah. I support the McWorld. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Hey, man. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? No. All right. All my tweets are depressing. Anyone else's tweets you've been enjoying? I mean, I did. I found that.
Starting point is 01:00:22 He's like, I love this one from the Disney channel. I found that video of the newsroom where the guy says yeet and it breaks your heart on Twitter. Yeah, let's play that for people. Hold on. Yeah, let me just bust this for the kids real quick. That is the thing on Twitter that hit me like a bullet. Yeah, and I know, again, this is kind of talking about some heavy stuff, but let me just allow you to take you away to when people act like children and really relate to the youth. Act like what they assume children say, having never met one.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Right. Good morning, TPS students. It is testing week, and it's time to slay all day. Yeet. Stay woke. Yeet. Be on fleek. Get that Gucci breakfast.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Gucci. Let's say bye, Felicia, to that testing stress. Weather's going to be turnt, right, Chris? Yes. Toledo weather's going to be the lit during testing week. A hundo P chance of success. You've got this, kids. How about that traffic?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Are we looking okurr? Better than okurr. We're talking turnt. FOMO won't be an issue. No traffic problems around any TPS schools to keep you from taking those tests. So get a good night's sleep. Do your best. In fact, be extra extra.
Starting point is 01:01:33 We here at WTOL are be proud of you. Good luck on your tests, TPS students. It's like if in a thousand years there were a renaissance fair themed after right now on the fleek sir hello what is poppington tonight sir i'm finna get turnt up oh miles and i heard my mandem coming up to me. Tom bout. Like, oh, my God. Jesus, God.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Mandem. Oh, shoot. Me, I'm at Twitter and Instagram. Those are my handles. Damn, man. Just took over, baby. Dude, you could make some serious bank off of those. Pure confidence.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah, no. At Miles of Gray. Okay. I had to admit it. That's what it was is there a tweet yeah and it was a couple tweets i'll be like let me tell you about them one of them actually two of them are both from at at dan white uh one is just a photo of this dude on a like with one of those water jet packs like you know what i mean like those like water powered jet packs and it's like an action shot of a dude just flying through the air. And the caption around it is like, My ex-stepson Colton just texted me this photo of my ex-wife's new live-in boyfriend, Sean, and wrote,
Starting point is 01:02:54 Sean says, What up? Don't respond. Oh my gosh. This image, though, is so stupid. And another one from at and and white. Talk about toxic masculinity. Perfect weather for a cabin weekend.
Starting point is 01:03:07 And I just spent six hours on the couch with horrible stomach pains after my brother and his friends convinced me to do a fart bong. Just leave it there. Just leave it there. Right where it is. And I know this will be something you Google search tonight. Yeah. You should give it a shot. A couple tweets I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Kim Beans at Kimmy Monte tweeted, if Fred Flintstone uses his feet to power his automobile, then why doesn't he just walk to work? He's basically just carrying his car everywhere. Damn. That really fucked me up. Yeah, that fucking ruins my whole childhood. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:44 He's really just doing a lot of work. I mean, maybe that's what they had instead of man purses back then. What about what if the whole city is angled so that all of the roads are downhill? What about the way back? Huh? How about the way back? You're going to have to go uphill. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I mean, that does present a problem. Or they're just nomadic. They just keep it moving. They're like, so I don't go uphill. Always, yeah. I mean, that does present a problem. Or they're just nomadic. They just keep it moving. They're like, so I don't go uphill. Always downhill. Yeah. Just leave your shit over there. I know someone who won't turn left in their car, so I feel like a whole city could work that way.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yo, my friend's grandma. Yeah. Shout out to Nani. She used to not ever make left turns. That's smart. It's the safest way to drive. She's taken like seven right turns. UPS has a rule that you can't make left turns as a UPS truck driver.
Starting point is 01:04:25 If you are driving with drugs, do not take left turns. Because it's almost impossible to take a left turn in some way that's not technically illegal in cause for a cop to pull you in. Yeah, that's true. What are the other ways they can get you from making a left turn? I know the one. I hear a lot. I'm a person of color. But it's kind of up to their discretion because you never have the right of way.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It's a negotiated turn. If it's an arrow, you're good. But if it's a negotiated turn, don't fucking do it. All right. Tips for hustlers from Robert Evans. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:05:03 We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on. Footnotes. There you go.
Starting point is 01:05:18 This one is going to be from BBO. B-I-B-I-O. Yeah, just kind of does a lot. This artist, Stephen Wilkinson, I think his name, multi-instrumentalist, likes to make cool music. And this one's called Old Graffiti. Got a little bop to it. So why don't you hop to it and get your week started right. And remember to yeet your fleeks.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah, yeet and stay off fleek, y'all. I mentioned that super editor, Dan, is doing something to this episode to prank us right in the butt? Nah. Nah. All right, don't stick around until later where he leaves all of our bullshit in. Nope, there are absolutely no Easter eggs after the post-roll. Yes, so do not listen till then. That's going to do it for today.
Starting point is 01:06:04 We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast, and we will talk to you guys then. Bye. So do not listen till the end. That's going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. And we will talk to you guys then. Bye. I love you. You love me. We're a happy family. With a great big hug and a kiss from me to you.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yeah. Won't you say you love your daily zeitgeist too? Um. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Um. Uh. Excuse me. Uh.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Uh. What were you? Dad. And then uh, what were you, and it smokes. And then looking with your, all of, oh, like about a part. Uh, I was just a little, I would do a dumpster. You know, uh, I guess in one, in one, uh, a lot of these people need, like they noticed, uh, um, like, like I just, I don't, uh, that got taken that yeah and things like that and that's when let's listen to her say you know uh that's that it's very it uh um or uh the uh she uh i've conned the other um that uh it doesn't take um because it's just like you're don't, don't, you know, now like that. What, what are, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:32 People talk about how could, you know, they think again. So, so Terry, you might know. I don't, I don't. And it's, I mean, what the various like outcomes are. It's, I mean, what the various, like, outcomes are. It's, uh, um, wreck doesn't necessarily, uh, like, they would all, uh, is it, uh, um. That is a literal nightmare.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You wake up before your alarm. No sunlight peeks through your window. It's far too early for that. You're confused for just a moment, and then you hear another explosion. It echoes in the night, rattling the walls and the window of your apartment. This is not the first bomb you've heard, and it sounds far enough away that you know the danger isn't imminent. That surprises you a little bit, the fact that you recognized it's not close. You realize you've
Starting point is 01:08:29 now heard enough explosions to have a pretty good ear for them, when they're close enough to worry about. It's weird how quickly life in a war zone becomes just life. You get up. There's no sense trying to get back to sleep. As you stumble over to the kitchen to grind some coffee, you hear the crack of rifle fire. It's distant too, far enough away that it sounds almost like firecrackers, but you know it's not. You fill the grinder, put on the top, and press down. Nothing happens. You realize, belatedly, in your sleep-fogged brain, that the power's out again. You wonder which of the dozen different rebel and insurgent groups in your state might be responsible. You don't even bother to get out your phone and check the news. It doesn't really matter, and you've got shit to
Starting point is 01:09:08 do. It's still dark outside, and since you're already up, you might as well take advantage of the situation and beat the crowd to the grocery store. As you close and lock your door behind you, you try to ignore the pop and shatter of not-so-distant gunfire. There are days when you do feel like doing something, maybe even joining your friends. But most days, like today, you've got shit to do. It's an election year. Every candidate is doing their level best to not call this what it is, a civil war. You hear that phrase out on the street, though, more and more every day. You reach a crosswalk and start to step across.
Starting point is 01:09:39 On the left, your eyes are drawn to the massive bulk of a police bearcat as it trundles across the street parallel to you. A man sits up top in the cupola, his hands on a machine gun that, for now, has its nose pointed up in the air. He stares at you, and you try not to stare back. As you hurry along to the supermarket, you ask yourself the question you've asked almost every day for the last three years. How did it get this bad? Did that seem far-fetched to you? Outlandish? If so, let me try to show you why the preceding passage might well be reality for millions of Americans startlingly soon if something isn't done. The Second American Civil War doesn't sound like a crazy, distant possibility to me, and it hasn't for a while. I'm Robert Evans, and it's my job to help you see what I see. 2016 was the first year I started seriously considering the possibility of a second American Civil War.
Starting point is 01:10:31 It was the year I reported on the major protests surrounding the most contentious election in modern American history. I was there at the RNC and the DNC, and at both, I saw tremendous hatred on display. I also traveled to Iraq in 2016 to report on the siege of Mosul, but nothing I saw there, nothing I saw anywhere that year, scared me more than watching Alex Jones speak on the first day of the RNC. These are not liberals. These are anti-free speech, anti-freedom scum who need to get their ass to North Korea. Welcome to It Could Happen Here, a podcast where, every season, I take some fantastic, unlikely scenario
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