The Daily Zeitgeist - Supreme Court Injustice, Deadly Shaving Cream Prank 10.15.20

Episode Date: October 15, 2020

In episode 737, Jack and Miles are joined by performer and activist Behzad Dabu to discuss polls for the 2020 election, Trump begging women to like him, Trump retweeting conspiracy theories about Obam...a Bin Laden, Amy Coney Barrett's confirmation hearing answers, Beverly Hills shutting down Halloween, and more!FOOTNOTES: Pennsylvania polls: Rust Belt state becomes a battleground over election security ‘Hilariously Embarrassing’: Women Mock Trump’s Desperate Plea For Them To ‘Like’ Him Did Joe Biden Kill Seal Team 6 And Let Bin Laden Live? Donald Trump Says Sure, Why Not Amy Coney Barrett's confirmation hearing: Day 3 Beverly Hills Bans Trick-Or-Treating & Shave-Creaming For Halloween 2020 WATCH: Ras G - Dirty Cutlass Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:22 Mr. Miles Gray be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. No, you can fuck Tucker Carlson. No, you can fuck the cooks. And no, you can fuck cake fondant. No, you can get all of this smoke. No. Okay, shout out to Simone on the Discord, on the motherfucking AKA title submit channel specifically. Shout out to the whole motherfucking Discord channel. I seize you, Hannah.
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Starting point is 00:04:42 spooky and just their faces like this and like yeah but it was like kind of like tech looking yeah yeah yeah they were very it was 99 wait but fan mail is it fan email whoa oh shit that was back when email was new yeah okay cool i'm gonna sit and let that digest i'm gonna go eat some prunes for my digestion to stay regular. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented Beza Dabu. What's up, man? Hi, everybody.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Thanks so much for having me back. It's so good to have you back, man. Let's just get straight to it, man. Let's just talk NBA, man. Hi, everybody. Thanks so much for having me back. It's so good to have you back, man. Let's just get straight to it, man. Let's just talk NBA, man. I mean, every reader is like, click, click, click, click. Skip 30, skip 40, skip 50. Well, we already skipped 20 minutes of good NBA content that we didn't record before we hit record. I did your show years ago. Yeah, it's been a while. I don't remember how many, but I feel like it was like two or three years ago.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Hasn't been three quite yet. We're coming up on three. Yo, I think we hit the ninth. Wow. Time flies, y'all. Congratulations to us. Zyte Gang, we did it. Hey, happy third third what's third anniversary
Starting point is 00:06:05 uh 10 i don't know what do you get is that a digital digital card e-card digital digital get down but anyway we're very sentimental as you can tell bazon uh happy third anniversary it's been a minute but what was that so what last time what were we talking about last time i have no idea i have no idea i think we just had a nice free-flowing conversation. The Warriors were unbeatable back then. That's where we were at. Everyone's like, how do we play like the Warriors? What do we do?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Actually, it's interesting because if it was 2016 or 2017, the Warriors had just been beat. It was 2016. Yeah, I think it would have been. Well, we started in 17, so this is probably 18 because we were in our new spot. The Warriors were unbeatable. Yeah, the Warriors had just been beat. It was 2016. Yeah, I think it would have been... Well, we started in 17, so this is probably 18 because we were in our new spot. The Warriors were unbeatable. Yeah, the Warriors were unbeatable. This was KD Warriors. Yeah, the Warriors were unbeatable.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Super team. We were just talking about all the bad takes post-Lakers championship with people being... So many bad takes. LeBron's not the GOAT. Deadspin has an article that's at the top of all those Dennis blogs trending right now. It's at number one on the takeout.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And it's like, LeBron cheated us all by going all the way back to the decision. Just the idea. They're blaming LeBron for the super team. What's the transgression exactly? LeBron is so hated. Yeah, they're just, yeah. They're like, he should have been like Jordan and stayed with Cleveland and just gutted it out
Starting point is 00:07:35 and turned that team around. It's like, yo, if his GM is not drafting Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant, then he's got to make decisions. He's got to make moves. Also, Jordan was drafted to a large market team. Cleveland was not a large market team. LeBron made it a large market team. There's so much to say. One of the things that bothers me, though, more than anything, is the idea that LeBron is at fault for the league.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Like people say like, well, there's an asterisk now because LeBron won. And this asterisk things bothers me because every single player that played had the same situation. Every team had the same situation. So how can you put an asterisk? In my opinion,
Starting point is 00:08:19 an asterisk thing is if one team. So if you told me the Lakers were quarantined, right? No other team was quarantined because only the lakers dealt with covid or something then but like every team had covid every team had the same circumstance every team played in the same gym every team had the same benefits and losses and pros and cons so like there's no asterisk because it was equal for everybody yeah yeah and also you were pointing out like he wasn't the one who invented the super team like boston was already doing the super team before him they had their big three before miami had their big three and they put an end to that boston big three shit right quick he didn't
Starting point is 00:08:56 he didn't join a team that was winning championships he joined a team that was like the eight seed the year before right yeah exactly i think the also those takes where it's like he ruined us i think is already an acknowledgement that he's the best because you're saying his gravitational pull is so immense that it can throw things into chaos it's like being like i don't know why the sun gotta be providing us with all the energy it really fucked us over it's bullshit i think the sun is bullshit it's like well then you acknowledge that shit that's it's the sun you know what i mean it's it's because it affects so many other things so yeah maybe he did who cares one of the things that i'll deal i'm like the biggest fan of anybody i
Starting point is 00:09:34 know but it's like i love jordan i watched jordan my entire childhood i wore nothing but jordan jerseys and jordan sneakers and i still spend way too much money on Jordans. I love Kobe. He's an idol. He has put, he has had more of an effect on my life than most humans. I actually know. And Kobe Bryant has had an effect on my life and my mentality, the way I think about things.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And then I've spent the last decade of my life excited to win money, betting on LeBron because everybody, I love LeBron thing. And it's like thing and it's like and it's like it's so easy to love all three why do people have to like that is exactly right man that is exactly how i feel it's so easy to be like shack is dope lebron is dope kobe's dope people take the game to a new level and lebrron is doing shit that like people haven't done before. That is dope.
Starting point is 00:10:26 That is so fun to watch. And there are players that are easy to hate, like Paul Pierce. Let's hate on him. Hate on his ass. Especially with a hit man. He was salty as fuck with his commentary. He shouldn't be allowed to be a commentator because Skip Bayless is getting ridiculous, too. It's like you guys can't hate this much right
Starting point is 00:10:46 apparently some people can sadly and the bill russell we were talking about the bill russell argument that bill russell was the greatest player in the history of the game because he had like 11 rings and uh that is you know he is the greatest player of all time for a nba that was the size of a rec league um eight teams uh he it was at a time when uh he was both player coach and announcer he introduced he introduced the celtics uh he did it and yeah he did it all. It was a different era. Bill Russell's a goat for his era. And it's like, I just feel that we need to understand this stuff. They say, oh, in the 90s, Jordan had a tougher league where there were hand checks and the fouls were harder.
Starting point is 00:11:37 That's true. Give them that. But if you're going to play that argument, then let's go back. Then we also say, well, there were no zone defenses. Jordan was facing single coverage. And then, like, you know, Le is is is being zone defense to hell and then we can say okay well kobe had a little bit of both and he still makes it work yeah so everybody had their pros and cons also do you know what russell westbrook and damian lillard would do to john stockton like it's it's oh come on. Leave John Stockton alone.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's just the idea that, oh, Jordan faced tougher competition. It's like, no, he didn't. Right. No, he didn't. He would twist his ass up. And it's like, Clyde Drexler, amazing, awesome player, one of the greatest of all time for all-stars, right? But he's not better than even DeMar DeRozan.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Right. He's not better than Jimmy Butler. Do butler do you know what jimmy butler would do to clyde drexler so it's like oh man jimmy butler would hate clyde drexler clyde drexler was the always last to show up for practice first to leave i'm gonna get so much hate not do you know how many portland people are going to come at me like Clyde Drexler would destroy these guys. He was smooth. I loved his game. He had fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:12:50 He was DeMar DeRozan, though. People have to keep it separate, though, right? Because it's not saying Jimmy Butler is going to destroy your dad after school. It's that in the time it's not it's not worth comparing these things. It's like, well, would Geng defeat uh fucking schwartzkopf in the battlefield like i don't know are they using the same fucking weapons i don't fucking know bro like this is shit yeah greatest of that specific era goatsy i guess we should be talking about but it's something specific we do with the nba because i you know i'm an actor can you imagine if i was like yo den, Denzel was amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And you were like, fuck Denzel. Tom Hanks is way better. And it's like, wait, wait, what? I like them both. You know what I mean? We don't do that. We don't say. Man, Clark Gable the goat.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Fuck out of here with all this other shit. Clark Gable never didn't get nominated for a movie he was in all all art is built on top of other art like you what brando did was like influential and people actors like saw that took it in and digested it and then built their art on top of that and that's the same basketball is an art form and the same shit you can't compare them and be like well this is better than that because like across it doesn't translate across seasons let alone across eras yeah because you're like oh oh if uh john stockton was such a good point guard how come he can't hit the sham god crossover exactly it's like well
Starting point is 00:14:16 it's the different you know i mean he didn't no one was seeing that and kobe grew up watching jordan lebron grew up watching jordan and kobe and and zion williamson grew up watching kobe and lebron and like it's just it's just what what it's an evolution of the game and i really wish we could appreciate them all and i feel like so many people especially the twitter takes is like you're going to be 2050 talking to your kid and i feel like you're not going to be able to explain to them the joy LeBron had because you spent 10 years hating. Yeah, what's that going to be like when people are just old haters? I think what they're going to do is be like, oh, I love LeBron.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I watched him do all this and that. I think it might change. The narrative might change. Dad, tell us about how LeBron ruined the league again. Oh, damn it. Have hater kids. It's like Kanye said, you know? Yeah, and I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:15:11 you know why the Lakers aren't good anymore? We haven't won in 70 years when they blocked the Chris Paul trade. That's what happened. It's like, but you won after that. Shut the hell up. I get mad about the Chris Paul trade too. All right.
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Starting point is 00:16:20 year all of that plenty more but first beza we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are a friend of mine who is normally very smart and on point told me something that i didn't fucking buy so then i googled it and it's about bin laden is still alive it's about a cat's meow. Okay. And I have a cat this year, new, in quarantine. My first pet of all time. And I love her so much. I like how you described it like inventory.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I have a cat this year, new model. Yes. It's the first pet I've ever had in my life. Oh, that's dope. Oh, ever? Like ever, ever, ever, ever. Ever. I grew up poor in a small apartment.
Starting point is 00:17:05 We couldn't have pets. And like I and I got this cat a month before quarantine. So who knew how benefit it was going to be? But anyway, I love her very much. But she said this is what she said. She told me that your cat. She said that my friend told me that told me that all cats, they don't meow to each other. They only meow to humans.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Right. And the why is because they're mimicking a baby's cry. I have heard that as well. Okay. But my response to that was, I got my cat as like really like a couple days after being born at a shelter and taken straight home to a home where i live alone my cat has never heard a baby's cry so how could my cat be meowing mimicking a baby's cry if my cat never heard a baby's cry so i googled it right there is a lot of dissenting opinion about okay about the evolutionary biology of how the meow was uh yes incepted into the cat and if you think i didn't spend about two and a half hours
Starting point is 00:18:09 yeah i the way i had heard it is that it just evolved that way so like it just like all you know random chance uh kitten like the kittens that got picked up and kept by humans were the ones whose cries like tapped into that short circuit in our brain that is designed to respond to baby's cry so it's not that the cat is like doing an impression of a baby it's just that their meow happened to have evolved that way specifically because we favored the ones who could meow all right all right stop meow splaining to us now uh my i have a cat i have two cats one of them straight up screams at night just goes yeah like it's just like it's not it's to the point where i'm like motherfucker have you even heard another cat like what is this because sometimes i i have been worried
Starting point is 00:19:06 because it's like and we're like oh fuck is the cat sick or something i go outside and it's just chilling and it's scree it's like uh one of her majesty's hair ties will be on the ground and it's just yelling at a hair tie on the ground yeah and i'm like yo this is too much so for a second when you said that i was like oh no has this been is something going on with the hair tie the cat's trying to tell me about? But I'm like, no, this cat's just doing its own thing. It's just having a conversation with this elastic circle. That's amazing. Yeah, animal noises are.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Some animals don't know how to sound like they're supposed to. Yeah, my cats are. They get a 1 out of 10 on their meow impersonations. Yeah. It sounds like they're just going like, so it's i'm like okay i guess we're talking my cat is very vocal um but she's so adorable when she knows she's about to get fed because she sees me open the the door where the food is she knows her time it It's a nonstop until the food is in her mouth. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. Yeah, boy.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Until it's there. Give me that food. She has been the only real true joy in my life during this quarantine. I live alone and I'm single. And so it's like this is a lonely ass year. So me and my cat have gotten very close. And this is my voice to her when I cry
Starting point is 00:20:26 we're going to watch LeBron now we do what is something you think is underrated oh I have a good one of these too okay underrated oh I'm going to lose oh god I've already lost people on the basketball now I'm going to lose people on this
Starting point is 00:20:42 I think that Dave Matthews Band has become underrated because I know the face. I love this. The face that people make. I love this take. So I grew up like everybody else my age in upstate New York or I guess the whole country. Yeah, we all grew up in upstate New York. Come on now. Hey, Rochester, you hear me?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Loving Dave Matthews Band. Yeah. And then all of a sudden I get to college and I learned that it was lame to love Dave Matthews Band. And that they're, I guess, dorky or something. I don't know. Their fans suck so much that their music sucks. And then I'm like, wait a minute. They're really good.
Starting point is 00:21:26 and then i'm like wait a minute they're really good uh uh carter buford's one of the best drummers of all time widely regarded as such by other drummers and like their musicianship is solid and they've now become underrated like now i'm like afraid to say i'm listening to the dave album but like crash is a perfect album so get off me fuck yeah dude i love it man dude that's the take crash is a perfect album come fight me it kind of is i don't love all their albums but i've i haven't revisited dave since i went through that like transition where i was like yeah no i never liked that shit that that was that was whack and like hid my puka shell necklace behind my back uh in in my freshman year dorm uh but that like there's got to be something to how much i loved that like live at the red rocks album oh my god oh my god that was like all i listened to for
Starting point is 00:22:20 months live at central park is great and like i loved. I love Dave. My ability to throw them away when everybody thought that they were not cool. I was like, oh yeah, I never listened to Dave. No, I didn't go to every concert. I got one of those playlists that you'll always listen to. So Much To Say will always be on that motherfucking playlist.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So Much To Say. The fills in that. Carter Buford's fills on that track. You guys, Carter Buford is so much because the drumming the fills in that carter buford's fills on that track you guys there's some um carter buford is an incredible drummer he's an incredible drummer he does one of these things that's so wild you know most drummers have four surfaces because they have their two feet and then they have their two sticks but carter has seven because he plays with his dick. I heard his left foot. He does. He does a toe on the high hat, but he has a heel on something else. Oh, that's three.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And then for his hand, sometimes he puts his he puts the hands in the middle of the stick and he uses both ends. So it's like nunchucks almost. Holy shit. When you can get that on high-hat because you see some people who can go nasty 16ths on a hi-hat by like middle that mid-stick grip i mean you know salute the drummers out there so anyway so anyway i'm i'm here to say now that i'm old enough that i don't care what you think about what i like i love dave matthews band and they're underrated now hell yeah yeah go go out in the streets with your crash t-shirt on and let gen z
Starting point is 00:23:45 tear you to bits in the streets it's interesting to i i forget where i was uh reading or listening to a podcast that was like all about drummers and how they're like the goalies of the of bands where there's just like they're just like slightly off and everybody in the band is just like yeah no they're like almost a different species of human like their brain just like slightly off and everybody in the band is just like, yeah, no, they're like almost a different species of human. Like their brain just like works slightly different, like really great drummers just like process time differently than the rest of us. Um,
Starting point is 00:24:15 yeah, but that's, I mean, that's every wild, like the thing you're describing about Carter Buford, like that shit, it seems impossible to me. Like that seems like you would need a machine
Starting point is 00:24:25 to do that yeah you listen to some songs and I'm like this has to be three drummers right what is something you think is overrated all right I feel strongly about this this is before corona when we go to the movies 3D movies
Starting point is 00:24:42 overrated in fact when I go to the movies with a group of friends and they're like we're going to the 3D one I'm like I don't even know if I really want to go I'd rather go to the standard one HD great, IMAX great love an IMAX movie but if I gotta put the glasses on
Starting point is 00:24:57 for the 3D it doesn't enhance the experience for me it sort of just looks tacky takes me out of the film i'm like oh yeah i'm watching a movie now and it sometimes gives me a headache so i think like the the where the glass is 3d thing overrated okay i mean what was the i feel like because avatar was such a vibe for people it fucked up the whole market after that because they're like you know what dude
Starting point is 00:25:25 if we just say some shit's 3d they're gonna watch this percy jackson bullshit i don't give a fuck just say it's 3d and if you have to do it in post fuck it um but yeah it really did i think i only saw one other 3d film after avatar and it didn't even come close and i was like this is so sometimes bullshit i want to go to a movie and the only available screening was the 3d right yeah so then you're like i don't know you're watching spider-man in 3d or something and then i'm like i i paid extra for this because it's supposed to be quote unquote a better experience and it's a worse experience but that is i felt like at one point i mean i'm making this up but i felt like at one point you know period dramas were in 3d it was
Starting point is 00:26:04 like uncut gems in 3D. What am I watching Adam Sandler scream at me in 3D for? I feel like Avatar and Hugo were both pretty great 3D experiences for me. I really
Starting point is 00:26:19 liked both of those. And then everything else has been garbage. It's really weird. It's like why they just didn't learn the lessons or they didn't pay attention to i i guess you just need so many different things operating together to pull off like a like artistry in 3d because like yeah james cameron spent all the money on avatar and then hugo you have martin scorsese but like you need an artist who is like at the center and like has enough gravitational pull to make everybody like you know invest in that idea it can't just be like
Starting point is 00:27:01 hacked together after the fact like a lot of uh the 3d like basically every other 3d i don't think there's been another good 3d experience than those after corona if you can get people excited to go back to the movie theater again and they can get people to get excited about going back to a packed movie theater again you now also have to get people excited to wear glasses that thousands of strangers have also previously worn so uh i don't i don't know how we're gonna do on the 3d glasses experience it's gonna be like a bring your own type thing where they like you found a new thing it's like all right well look we're adding 15 bucks to the cost of the ticket but now you own them and uh yeah oh god yeah
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Starting point is 00:32:15 Because, you know, people talk about, like, especially politics now, it's like, well, you guys in your bubble, your elitist bubbles, your liberal bubbles. And I just, I'm starting to, like, reject that. And I feel like I once believed it. But what does that mean? The liberals that I know, the progressives that I've been around my entire life, raised in a progressive household from an activist family, and then, you know, went to a progressive school in a progressive city and blah, blah, blah. So I've been in the most quote unquote liberal bubble places a person could be in. But that means that I learn about other people, visit other places, travel all the time. I'm in diverse cities,
Starting point is 00:32:51 meeting diverse people in diverse populations. I've lived in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, born in Boston. I am constantly traveling. We're constantly reading and constantly learning about other people and meeting different walks of life from different economic and socioeconomic backgrounds. It's the other people that are in the bubble, the ones who don't leave their town, don't learn about others, in a very homogenous, white, socioeconomic, predominantly Anglican. Like, that's the bubble. I reject that we're in a bubble. I propose that they're in a bubble. Right. I mean like the media bubble for sure is real, but I think, yeah, to your point of like experientially, they're likely your likelihood of being exposed to like many different
Starting point is 00:33:38 people and cultures and then still being very conservative. Uh, I think it's like, you know, the chances go down a bit, but there's something about like, I forgot, I was talking to my dad, and he was talking about like a very interesting point about how, you know, that life is all about change. And that most people don't like change. But the constant changing of things is actually what life is. It's the beginnings and endings of things. That's how we perceive life. And for people who are open to these newer things, they're open to life because they're open to change or things evolving. Whereas conservatives are absolutely against this, like evolving,
Starting point is 00:34:14 like they're sort of stagnant in this place where at their own peril, that it's like fucking preserve everything as it was from this moment and putting a fucking, you know, just time capsule where that nothing can get to. And that you're also seeing how that's like what that looks like too. So yeah, in that sense, yeah, that bubble is sort of about being in this very protected world where nothing that you thought it was challenged and you can go on thinking that
Starting point is 00:34:41 everything up to this point is fine, status quo. Yeah, I mean, there's a great thinker writer named Ayad Akhtar. He wrote a book called Homeland Elegies that just came out recently. And he wrote a play where he talks about and relentless and something to be suffered through. And if they want to go back, but they don't want to go back so far that we cut off the hands of thieves and kill the unbelievers and stone wives and do things like that. So it's how they pick and choose is very confusing to me. They pick and choose to suit themselves and they also
Starting point is 00:35:32 define or design a version of the past that suits themselves and that never really existed. Fox News has created and the MAGA movement has created a version of the fifties that didn't actually exist. Yeah. I would agree with you that my, I guess my social media
Starting point is 00:35:51 feed is a bubble. Yeah, totally. I mean, I mean, without denying it. Yeah. But I think it's about whether or not you have the awareness around that of like, whether or not people, most people don't have the awareness to think like, they're probably only getting their note and news from like one source typically, or two typically, and sort of just always say like, that's it. I don't have the awareness to think they're probably only getting their news from one source typically or two typically and sort of just always say, that's it. I don't need to look much further than how I'm reading this reporting on a certain event versus constantly maybe pursuing as many different angles on something. Because I think a lot of the time, our media diets help. They soothe us a lot of the time you know our media diets help they they soothe us a lot of the time too like if you're a conservative like you want to hear about liberals getting pwned so you can just be like oh
Starting point is 00:36:30 good good thank god like they're getting pwned and they're crying because they're getting brutalized and then for other people it's like yes trump's getting smashed in the polls or whatever without really even or certain uh aspects about how his presidency is like unraveling without taking a second to be like okay yes that is one version of this story there's also another there's another reality where like reading these things too can also have an effect where it's i'm beginning to i don't know it's it's more the risk of uh losing sight of like maybe how um severe certain issues are based on how like reporting is given to you and like your media diet. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:37:08 at the end of the day, I think it's, I think empathy is really the great divider is whether or not you can look at someone who might be in a different world than you. And for a moment be like, yeah, that could be different. That might be a different experience rather than being like,
Starting point is 00:37:22 I know what it's like to live in San Francisco and the homeless people are shooting heroin into their scooters and they're going off the Golden Gate Bridge with the hippies. Or you land in Chicago at O'Hare and you got to start dodging bullets because everyone's shooting everybody in this criminal place. I started thinking about this more, though, because a lot of the activism work I do is around representation and how people of color are portrayed in the media and the lack of opportunities. And one of the studies is the USC Annenberg study that came out a few years ago. And it said that Manasa people, and Manasa is Middle Eastern, North African, South Asian people, right? So basically brown people of the Middle East and South Asia were 22 series regulars on television out of 2,000 series regulars. Okay, so about 1%. And of those 22, 17 of them were threats. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:22 They were threatening characters. So it also said that most people in america don't have a friend outside of their race and so when you when i hear that it's so mind-boggling to me because in my quote-unquote bubble i have friends of all races and all genders and all you know orientations and so it's mind boggling. But then you start thinking about a lot of these places. And I'm like, yeah, I get why you might not have a friend outside because you live in such a homogenous town and you don't travel. And so if now it's true that you don't have a friend outside of your race, you don't have a friend who looks like me.
Starting point is 00:39:00 And the only time you ever see anybody who looks like me is rarely on television. And 70% of that time, they're threats. Of course you're afraid of me. So of course you love Trump's Muslim ban. Of course you love the shithole country's comment. Of course you love that stuff because the only thing you've seen are the threats once in a while on television. You don't actually have the person-to-person connection with somebody. That bubble specifically is defined by a lack of information and a deprivation of exposure
Starting point is 00:39:32 to other points of view, whereas the liberal bubble, I think, can be too steeped in or too dismissive of that very specific point of view like too dismissive of you know nascar and the values uh of middle america but there are attempts by by the new you know the new york times after the 2016 election became obsessed with like exposure to like that way of life yeah but the liberal bubbles also has a lack of information, too, because it's it's just about getting you to the to talk about a problem and not solving it. Yeah. And that's where I see a lot of liberal people fail. And when they try and engage with like really big systemic issues is that it's like, yeah, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:40:22 It's bad. And it's like, go on. And it's bad. Yeah. And it's like, no, see, we need more people yeah, it's bad. It's bad. And it's like, go on. And? Correct. It's bad. Yeah. And it's like, no, see, we need more people to say it's bad. And this is what we need to do.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Like, we don't have enough. The liberal diet of media diet also doesn't give people the imagination to solve the issues. It just takes you to the river. It doesn't tell you how to drink. It's just like, I think what we're saying is that, like, both sides have an equal amount of hypocrisy for sure oh always at the end of the day but i think to your point there's something a little more specific to what you started off with i think experientially there certainly is this idea of like living in a city or something or a progressive area somehow makes you like think because i've seen how people talk like, they're drinking unicorn blood and they're Frappuccinos.
Starting point is 00:41:07 It's like, what? That's exactly right. All right. You know, we were just talking about kind of the general melange, the general zeitgeist of the news. But let's talk some specifics of what is happening right now. The president is out here he is uh doing his best to get things back on track uh he was in pennsylvania uh and yeah he he he's never fails
Starting point is 00:41:37 to come up with new looks yeah he had a new look on on the campaign trail he's you know he's a chameleon he's always adapting he's desperate it's sickening it's all depressing but uh pennsylvania is obviously is getting a lot of attention from both candidates uh trump bear i think he lost by less than one percent uh in the 2016 um race and right now the trump administration is filing like lawsuits left and right to try and gum up the voting process specifically especially in like in Philadelphia, where a huge portion of the state's Democratic votes are going to be coming from. Biden has been visiting Pennsylvania more than any other state since September, and his ad spend there is only second to Florida. So they're very focused.
Starting point is 00:42:21 He's numerically in the polls leading. I don't know whatever that means. But Trump absolutely needs to win Pennsylvania. Like his numbers are tanking. And like a lot of the other previous battleground states, you're seeing the campaign pull ads to try and focus the little money they have into some kind of winning strategy to get more white grievance voters to come out. So he goes to Pennsylvania. You know, he's out here fucking nonstop begging for votes and literally begging, quite literally begging for votes. You guys see the thing they said about suburban women, please. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:56 that's what we're about to get to. So, you know, he seeing how bad he's doing in Pennsylvania, he just made it very clear, very specifically, which demographic is really fucking up his chances. And because he's coming out here with his,
Starting point is 00:43:12 with toupee in hand or hat in hand, I'm sorry, saying, please, please just listen to this. Listen to this. I don't know. It's fucking sad.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I asked you to do me a favor. Suburban women. Will you please like me? fucking sad i ask you to do me a favor suburban women will you please like me i saved your damn neighborhood okay the other thing i don't have that much time to be that nice you know i can do it but i gotta go quickly we don't have time they want me to be politically correct oh yes let's discuss it let's talk about it over the next 10 years now now now now we saved your we saved suburbia um the the like when it goes from like shout out to my suburban women and people like yeah and then he's like gets into specifics and it just goes like dead sound
Starting point is 00:44:03 they're like wait what what is what is is he like following this down a path of trying to reason this said they're trying to get me to be politically correct but i'm going fast then you know what are we going to talk about it for 10 years what what you're you're you're tanking with because your rhetoric is so fucking awful and you are in an active campaign to take away the rights of women especially to have any kind of decision over their bodies or any human being for that matter so yeah it's it's running a bit afoul with the the the women who are living in suburbia but also uh i mean i i don't understand how begging is like the tactic it's i'm sure they're like you gotta it's like right before that's like i know you're not gonna listen mr president but
Starting point is 00:44:51 if you can just say something that would soften your image with suburban white women uh because they helped you a lot big time uh that would be great he's like yeah great i'll soften it up come on women you wanna like me can you do me one favor? Can you like me? At the same rally, this is where he, I don't know if you guys saw the clip of him dancing to the village people. Do you think it's like ignorance of that the village people is like a gay anthem? Or do you think it's like a weird spin, like we're going to take this gay anthem or do you think it's like a weird spin like we're gonna take this gay
Starting point is 00:45:27 anthem and make it a maga thing yeah i think it's just he doesn't care he's there's too much nuance there you've lost trump but i mean it's gay but you're both saying that he knows i think i think probably he's generally aware like he knows the village people are gay people in leather. Yeah. Maybe he's just like, but it's a bop. I don't discriminate. When the shit slaps, the shit slaps. No time for ignorance.
Starting point is 00:45:54 He thinks he's owning them by playing their music. Did they sign off on it? Did they ask? No. He's been doing this the whole time. Right. So then they're getting a check and the next one the next one is uh he always plays losing my religion at the top of a thing and i'm like michael stipe hates you right hates you yeah that's wild is it is that
Starting point is 00:46:20 just because he it's a song he likes because that doesn't really even like, that's not really a party rock anthem. One of my favorite follows is Aaron Rupar on Twitter because he, I can't watch a whole Trump rally, but he puts the highlights of Trump press conferences, Trump interviews, and Trump rallies on his Twitter. So you can watch like eight minutes or something of it that's like a recap. And so I follow that a lot. And sometimes it's the beginning of whoever's introducing him and i swear to god it's always like rem and like these like 90s alternative rock jams and i'm like these people hate you yeah and they're constantly like threatening with cease and desist after the fact because like he's not getting it when they're like don't hey fucking don't right like all right i guess i have to fucking sue you you fucking
Starting point is 00:47:05 asshole yeah but the dancing the dancing the village people and being so anti-gay in legislation and then like dancing to a gay anthem it's just so bizarre yeah well i mean i think for him he's like what do you mean no it's become bigger than that go to any sports game in the country they're playing this song it's just a just a fun fun jam about a a cool place to go when you're a guy down on your luck i saw a video on instagram that i think was a tiktok of someone saying that he falls asleep crying to macho man which is i want to be a macho man he does that dance though was like that needs to become an iconic clip like that goes down
Starting point is 00:47:47 in museums just him doing the little like mom dance it's a suburban woman dance yeah suburban woman dance see what do you mean I was softening it up for suburban women I love it yeah alright
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Starting point is 00:52:17 And the other place that the president is on a roll is on Twitter, where he is retweeting just the wild conspiracy shit just straight bullshit now yeah like the president arting the nonsense this twitter user oscar the midnight i'm not fucked whatever i'm not gonna fucking give this person just some fucking guy on twitter okay he retweeted just some guy who linked to this article and this tweet that Trump retweets reads, Hyden Biden and Obama may have had SEAL Team 6 killed. Explosive CIA whistleblower exposes Biden's alleged role with the deaths of SEAL Team and claims to have documented proof. Retweet. And this article is just in DJHJ Media uh which is a absolute dumpster fire as has nothing to do with anything close to legitimate journalism and it's all about i don't know i guess it's a death
Starting point is 00:53:13 blow to the biden harris campaign where they're alleging that joe biden had seal team six killed and then covered it up by paying iran money under the guise of the fucking nuclear deal or some shit. And then bin Laden may actually be alive and Biden is actually behind a bunch of CIA crimes. Okay, I might believe the last part. I don't know why you're saying it like you don't believe it. The last part I believe, because if they said it like,
Starting point is 00:53:37 and he might have engaged in some war crimes, I'm like, well, you know, it's called being on the executive of the United States. I read, because, okay, so the dude who was on the seal team that killed yeah and lodden tweeted today that obama gave the order and he wasn't a double and stopped this and it's weird because that guy is a huge trump supporter um but even he came out and was like this is ridiculous well yeah he's like it's like trying to dunk on his like achievement, I'm sure, as an operator. You're like, hold off.
Starting point is 00:54:09 You're not taking this from me. I don't give a fuck. All the people underneath the tweet were like, nope, you were involved in a deep state. You know, this thing, this thing. And it was one of the things was the reason why they think it's true is because bin Laden hadn't aged in 20 years. If you look at the pictures right and and that especially if he's in caves like he would age and i have two-part response to that i'm like first of all the whole thing about caves is just racism he
Starting point is 00:54:38 wasn't in caves he was always in like mansions right right you just think that afghanistan is all caves but it's not like the whole thing about caves was never a thing no one actually i saw iron man okay it's all caved out they think these people they think like these terrorists were like actually in caves it's like no they're in mansions they have houses you just keep saying caves because it's racist and then the other thing is that like he didn't age. He looked old as fuck. Right. He was on dialysis.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Yeah. He was doing terrible. He looked like shit. I mean, all the fucking gaslighting and wacky shit that's coming out of the right right now, it's truly next level. I mean, Rudy Giuliani is just blurting out the absolute anti-science bullshit about coronavirus. We're out here now. The president's retweeting shit that Biden had sealed. It's all very, very desperate.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And I'm not sure what they... I don't know. I mean, this is... Nothing is off limits at this point. So, yeah. All they have to do is make the other side exhausted, which, you know, a plus job there. They've succeeded. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:51 We're fucking so tired of this. And they also have to just like make the reality like questionable, make it make it so that people don't know what's real and what's not anymore. And like that certainly is happening with his followers. Imagine being that SEAL Team 6 it's you know all you have to do is look at uh putin's propaganda master like built out a whole plan of like how you do this and this is exactly what this is exactly what they're succeeding at this is why like the the polls really shouldn't make anybody uh feel better because we've never dealt with just a straight up you know authoritarian who is using propaganda full out like full stop yeah uh and there's even reports fox news the newsroom is like there's reporting coming out that they're on board with whatever
Starting point is 00:57:01 the fuck they gotta say on election night like even out of the newsroom um not just the like opinion ghouls of the ingram hannity's and carlson's they're on board with the trump administration with whatever they have to say yeah yeah it's really weird to me because i i always feel like and still feel like ted cruz and rubio and Graham, these people clearly, obviously all hate Trump and are and are doing this thing over the last four years because they feel like they need to, like, strengthen the racist base. And and I and I get that. But then I'm like, so why do you want him to win again? Like, you guys secretly hate Trump. Right. secretly hate trump right because it's just the way the the machine works you know like they're
Starting point is 00:57:45 they're in this party and they have their base that they're now suddenly beholden to that's like a completely different look or at least much more aggressive and how sort of like violent and racist they are and they're like what do i fucking do do i i speak my conscience and then just have these people fucking threaten me to death i mean it's also clear that they know it's just all it's they're just they don't know what to do it's so clear that they go home to their wives and are like god this fucking idiot right and she's like ted when are you gonna you said you're gonna fuck him up for talking that shit about me right right the only person who i think maybe doesn't do that is mitch mcconnell i feel like he's like yeah right on like yeah i don't know it's um because he's like i don't even think he's
Starting point is 00:58:31 alive he's like being powered by like fucking fracking gas and like dollar bills and shit yeah he looks like that spirit at the end of star wars that whatever that character is that the the main dude who is the mean villain in the final one yeah the black great description yep the main dude the main villain in star wars and the black rope you know yeah dude that's my title bro yeah i don't know man when you no longer have to hide the fact that you are sowing misinformation when you no longer have to hide voter suppression which seems to be like what you know they don't they're completely unaccountable when it comes to the media so they're you know asking people to physically intimidate voters at certain polling locations they're shutting
Starting point is 00:59:18 polling places down they're throwing away ballots they They're going to try to legally discount ballots. Yeah. Fiber optic cables are suddenly being disconnected in Virginia the day of registration, the voting registration, which happened in 2016, too, on the same day. And they sued in 2016. Now they're suing for the same thing in 2020. It's ridiculous. They had to extend the deadline. But it's like, oh, whoops, we were digging in this area and we completely fucked up the
Starting point is 00:59:44 fiber optic cables that were powering the state's like I.T. for voter register. It's the New York Times magazine did a look at like voter fraud and how Trump is using the claims of voter fraud, which has never been a problem. But they're using that as like the thing that makes the ground that the whole election stands on into like a quicksand. Like one of the details in this story that I didn't realize is that in 2000, like they said, the basically the modern era of Republicans using claims of voter fraud to win elections and, you know, suppress votes started in 2000. There was a. As they were doing the recount in a Dade County courthouse, Republican protesters were surrounded the building, broke into the building, broke into the room where they were doing the recount and started like slamming on tables and slamming on the
Starting point is 01:00:45 walls. This was organized by Roger stone. Yes. That Roger stone. It was called the, uh, I forget what they called it. Brooks brothers revolt.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah. Brooks brothers riot. Yeah. The blue blazer riot, the Brooks brothers. They were all dressed in like corpo business attire, but the ridiculous, the board was sufficiently intimidated that they suspended the
Starting point is 01:01:06 count less than a quarter of the way through uh when it had shown a net gain of 160 votes for gore and that count never resumed because the supreme court called it off so can you imagine if black or muslim people did that it's unbelievable it's straight up they just rioted to steal an election and it like i had to read about it in a new york times article 20 years later i learned i learned last night that three of the people on the legal team during that florida recount fiasco were Amy Comey Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Justice Roberts. Those are three people who legislated that whole recount fiasco in Florida, and now they're three Supreme Court justices. And it's like, I have no faith that she's not going to get put right the hell through.
Starting point is 01:02:01 It feels like a mess. Oh, she's definitely going to, and she won't, she's refusing to even say i i won't like can you imagine if we did the election what she did on a job interview if you're like so what would you do if you were hired and i was like well you'll find out when you hire me right okay so that's well are you gonna work hard i don't know man you'll find out man i'll fuck around and find out, man. I mean, that is like that's sort of standard policy. That's standard procedure for justices to say, like, I'm not going to tell you how I would rule on that, but I will like point to precedent. And then, like, we would have to judge it on its merits but like some of just some of the stuff that is like tangentially coming out as she's making those arguments are really like frightening fucked up like when she's talking
Starting point is 01:02:51 about can the president ignore a supreme court ruling and she's like well the thing is it's like hold on why are you starting off with the thing is right it's not should be no this motherfucker's not above the law it's like well here's the deal i mean we can then interpret the law make it and give a ruling but then at that point i don't know if we can compel from a political standpoint and now you're saying so you're saying you you don't know or you don't know you're like well i certainly can't make them do something that's not a good answer right now when we're talking about full-blown rat fuckery yeah climate change her response i'm no scientist which is like hasn't been even the conservative response since like the 80s like that's like just ridiculous she referred to like during
Starting point is 01:03:35 gay marriage questioning she referred to that as sexual preference again not even like a thing conservatives say uh like it implies that it's just like, hey, whatever you feel like that day, clearly you're just making up your mind. Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Let's talk about Halloween in Beverly Hills. That's where I want. All right. Dude, Weezer, bring us back. That's where I want LA LA Alright Bring us back Weezer Yeah they have officially Ruined Halloween Now this is more of a local story for us Angelenos
Starting point is 01:04:16 Because Amerigar said Of LA He first started off with the city of Los Angeles Being like We're trick or treating you bet oh hell no it's a fucking pandemic we're not trick or treating but fuck what you said uh cut to three hours later okay i am sorry uh do your own thing la my bad didn't mean to like try and look out for y'all as a as the fucking mayor really all they did just said is like they would
Starting point is 01:04:42 actually would advise against it that's that's what they went from being like it ain't happening to like we're gonna say like don't do that but that's i don't we'll see what happens in beverly hills though you know in that little enclave the mayor is not fucking playing around and it is a very specific the ban on trick-or-treating in beverly hills it says specifically giving toys, or treats to anyone outside one's household is prohibited, no matter if the handouts pass through a front door or the trunk of a car, the latter being known as trunk-or-treating. They also said the city has banned, quote, spraying shaving cream on others, end quote, though it gave licensed barbers an exemption.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Thank God. Beverly Hills residents can also feel free to spray cream members of their own households within those households. What? Is the mayor the most concerned fucking parent on earth? What happened to the mayor with the shaving cream? Somebody sprayed shaving cream on him. Yeah, someone, they with the shaving cream? Somebody sprayed shaving cream. Yeah, someone, they got that shaving cream prank and just have never recovered.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Their whole career has been an excuse to legislate people's ability to spray cream each other. I don't, it's, it doesn't even, it's so specific. Like in the actual wording of this, you know, from the city being boom, house to house trick or treating or car to car trick or treating. The second thing that's prohibited is spraying shaving cream. I mean, I get it. You're getting like a bunch of possibly contaminated, like liquids on your face or some shit.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And it's around, but like like it seems like such a overly overly i don't understand i never even did that shit yeah no the only time i used shaving cream was the with the prank where you put it on someone's hand and then tickle their nose at a sleepover uh and i think right i that's punishable by death in beverly hills yeah yeah yeah that will put you will get put away for a long cut your nose off for that shit um well all right that's good to know do you guys know what you're gonna do for halloween how you're gonna celebrate i haven't stayed literally i have not thought about it once in fact the first time i thought about halloween was about 30 seconds ago when you started talking about the Beverly Hills thing.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Jack, I even forgot that we were even in October when I was like down like in the summer. I was like, oh, shit, we're about to hit three years because it was 2017. I just realized we were in fucking October. Right. We just and isn't Halloween on like a Friday or Saturday this year. It would have been. It's a full moon and it's a blue moon. It's the second full moon of october which is
Starting point is 01:07:26 it's gonna be and it's uh halloween during a pandemic uh my neighborhood gets a lot of trick-or-treaters so we have to like figure out what we're gonna do yeah what are what are you gonna do i think just put like a bench out that just says like see you next year but then and then just hope people aren't too mad but I also think like nobody like none of our neighbors are planning on like doing trick-or-treating so I was so excited on New Year's for 2020
Starting point is 01:07:54 I was one of those guys who was like 2020 is the year 2020 is when like our lives will change the country will change we're gonna get a new leader everything's gonna be great blah blah and then like wow just like life comes at you quick I've gotten rocked
Starting point is 01:08:10 yeah it's rough and it's rough on those trick or treaters the naive hope of New Year's December 31st I can't even remember where the fuck I was on New Year's part of me wants to get the pvc pipe
Starting point is 01:08:26 and drop the candy down from the second floor like down a slide not a bad idea but then it's like bust some kids head open yeah and also velocity just like firing them here comes some jawbreakers kids but you're also like putting pressure on your neighbors to then like come up with some strategy and also it's like i for the people receiving the candy like do they want to receive candy from like some house you know that's like also what do they knock knock on the pvc pipe oh the in my neighborhood like you just sit out front and there's a line like people oh my god oh so you're like one of those mobile games like those mobile zombie games where you have the machine gun mowing down zombies exactly it's like walls of enemies it's like walls of trick-or-treaters a turret
Starting point is 01:09:15 of candy yeah yeah oh shit there you go candy turret everybody knows jack doesn't live in beverly hills now that's yeah yeah that's and that's his own damn sure yeah um i don't i've never lived in an la neighborhood that felt like that at least not in the street that felt like that i've always felt like like it was dead i've always lived in or like yeah i've always lived in a neighborhood where i had to go to another neighborhood to trick-or-treat uh-huh i never lived in like the lit trick-or-treating neighborhood yeah we did the we did the when i was a kid we did the pillowcases and we got oh yeah who didn't and we got up we got on bikes yeah oh shit we would go down to a street run up and down the street it was not about fun it was about who gets the most numbers numbers that's always funny yeah you always turn there's always that group of kids that is like
Starting point is 01:10:05 sprinting full speed when everyone else is like you know parents are drinking beers and like what the fuck was that a bunch of fucking minions ran by me and t-rexes no for us it was like how many pillowcases can i get yeah right to the point do you ever bring them to school did it ever some people like yo check this out and just lay down the heavy bag on you and like getting in trouble. Like the teacher's like, you can't bring this shit here. What are you doing? I also grew up in upstate New York where it was freezing by Halloween. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:36 So cold. Yeah. Your bike had snow chain tires. Oh, my God. We would have like parkas on, you know know like a parka over your ninja costume or whatever right it was like you know it's just like a ninja warming up on the sidelines right and i i'm forgetting the brand but there was like a really popular brand of puffy coat that i think was like first ascent or something like that uh it wasn't north face because we
Starting point is 01:11:02 couldn't afford north face it was like whatever whatever mountain was under the bootleg version of that. And First Gear or something. Oh, God, I'm going to remember it. But anyway, I remember all the old people were like, well, what are you supposed to be this year? And I was like, I'm cold. Give me candy and shut up. I'm in a rush, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Now give me this fucking Butterfinger. God damn it. When are you going to get king size? Neighbor's got them up the street, man. You look poor as fuck i gotta go and back in the day they would give you um a plastic baggie with homemade cookies sometimes and i was like oh nowadays no way no no one would eat that nowadays oh yeah because everyone i remember like when edibles like weed edibles started and like that's always like the trick du jour clickbait for conservative moms is handing out weed edibles everyone's like
Starting point is 01:11:46 too expensive too expensive i'm wasting on the fucking kid you dumb better watch out look at the labels that i'm handing kids like what five milligram chocolate covered blueberries or something like that yes those are expensive and i love them yeah you know how much a tin of chocolate covered kivas cost i'm not balling out of control and i wouldn't waste it on a 12 year old dressed as spider fuck whoever when i go i'm always like i always go and uh throw on a couple of uh chocolate covered kiva tints to the blueberries and they're like okay 454 dollars okay you know what let's get rid of those i'll just take the rolling papers no weed nah nah nah how much is that? That's $400. Yeah, $360. Damn.
Starting point is 01:12:28 You know, that story probably was born out of some fucking parent whose kid found it and had to be quick on their feet. Like, oh my God, someone must have given this to... Holy shit. You really don't know who our neighbors are. You really don't. Some Ferris Bueller-ass little kid whose gullible-ass parents are like, I'm calling the local news. This is bad
Starting point is 01:12:46 enough. They gave him a whole bong. Yeah. A lit blunt. I can't believe it. Halloween cookies, though, the ones that are like basically butter that go around
Starting point is 01:13:01 that go, they're like little cupcakes that go around they're like little cupcakes that go around the around the Reese's cup the mini Reese's cup you know that one oh yes yes yes when you put it in yeah
Starting point is 01:13:17 that shit is shout out to those baked goods Halloween Halloween has some good baked goods associated with it. Yeah. You know what? I think that's what I'll do. I'm just going to buy one of those Pillsbury tubes where you slice off the cookies, like the pumpkin ones.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Yes. I'm just going to eat like three of those, smoke a blunt, and watch some fucking Arsenal highlights, and we're good to go, baby. Yeah. Yeah. Play a little.lloween music's pretty fun too there's like some good spooky jams my favorite halloween song watching me thriller monster mash monster mash is a jam yeah we were playing that this morning in my house hey is there a dave matthews uh halloween album there is a There is a Dave Matthews creepy song.
Starting point is 01:14:06 It's called And Another Thing. There's also a Dave Matthews song called Halloween, I think. There is. And there's a Dave Matthews song called Warehouse. It's kind of creepy, too. And Another Thing is weird. It's the song where he's just like... And it's really weird. It's on the crash album.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I just looked up the lyrics to Halloween and like this could be just a random word generators version of Dave Matthews lyrics. The first verse, hey little dreamers eyes open and staring up at me. It's like, that's just such a Dave Matthews ass lyric. He's like, Hey,
Starting point is 01:14:46 little dreamers eyes. Oh, little lonely eyes, open and radiant. Hell yeah, Dave, stay with what you do. Dave knows what he does.
Starting point is 01:14:57 He knows what he's good at and he does it. Is Halloween about being rejected three times after proposing marriage? Is it? I don't know. When you look at like people's like genius analysis of the lyrics, I'm like, oh, wow. Okay, cool. Why this lonely? Why this lonely love?
Starting point is 01:15:17 That's the course. I wonder if artists go look at their- Yeah, that's not very Halloween. Yeah, yeah. Take a turn there, Dave. I wonder if artists look at their genius though interpretations and are like, really? Oh. Huh. Okay, cool. Good. Yeah. Take a turn there, Dave. I wonder if artists look at their genius though. Interpretations are like, really? Oh, huh.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Okay. Interesting. Good. That's deep. Okay. Bezod, it's been a pleasure having you as always, man. Where can people find you, follow you? My Instagram and my Twitter are my name at Bezod Dabu, which is B-E-H-Z-a-d-d-a-b-u please follow me for cool takes good takes always good takes hell yeah there we go and is there a tweet or some other
Starting point is 01:15:55 work of social media you've been enjoying claudia conway i love her yeah she's the savior of the republic a 15 year old i thought it was like a terrible home life i thought it was a joke in the beginning but the way she dealt with like she put up a poll and she was like who should adopt me and it was like rashida talib iana presley and aoc and i was like, I love it. Like, she loves AOC. She supports Black Lives Matter. She says defund the police. And she has evil spawn his mom, and she says it.
Starting point is 01:16:34 And I love it. I also loved when she, they were like, yeah, you and your dad got to get out. And her response was, my dad's a horrible Republican, too, just because he hates Trump. Don't give him a pass. I was like, wow. Awesome. Miles, where can people find you? What's a horrible republican too just because he hates trump don't give him a pass i was like wow yes awesome miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram miles of gray um also 90 day fiance fans check me out on 420 day fiance and even also if you like the bachelor or bachelorette more specifically i'm on uh this week's episode or the episode one of the episodes that dropped this week of will you accept this rose with arden marine on iheart radio uh with
Starting point is 01:17:09 lacey mosley actually i'm talking shit about all these new bachelorette contestants without hearing them say a single word and my takes are magma level hot uh some might be so hot i may have to come back and give me apologize wait so you're giving your take just based on pictures of them yeah because there's like's a roster of all the contestants where it's just a headshot and bio. And one guy was like, he manages cover bands of 90s boy bands. And I'm like, this guy is in trouble.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I love him. His whole identity is being trapped in 98. I love him. I love 90s covers. Yeah. Also, this man might be holding on to his youth in a dangerous way. Now, a tweet that I like a shout out to at Starfall Systems for even shouting me being like, hey, check this tweet up because I'm not really on here. So I like the mentions. I like, you know, they're not they're they're pretty wholesome.
Starting point is 01:17:56 So shout out to you for shouting this tweet out. It's from Mike Drucker at Mike Drucker, quote, tweeting tweeting Senator Marsha Blackburn that says, the word abortion does not appear in the Constitution. And Mike Drucker tweets, neither does the word PlayStation. But I wake up grateful every morning that both have kept me from being a father. That's so good. You can find me on Twitter at jack underscore o'brien a couple tweets i've been enjoying katie golden did a whole thread with people requesting fictional animals and she would actually find the real animal just based on her knowledge of like adorable and weird animals. So find Katie Golden, follow her.
Starting point is 01:18:46 She is an amazing follow. At Katie Golden, K-A-T-I-E-G-O-L-D-I. And then another tweet I've been enjoying. Mass Convulsions tweeted, Michael Jackson's pronouns are he, he. Succeeded if I've made Miles say stupid under his breath. Find us on Twitter at Daily
Starting point is 01:19:17 Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we riding out on today? Okay, we're going out on LA, just OG of the beat scene, Ross G. And this is a track called Dirty Cutlass.
Starting point is 01:19:42 And this is some great sample-based instrumental music. Rashi, you know, remember low-end theory, like I do for the old heads. Yes. Some cool shit. Yeah. And Dirty Cutlass. I've been talking about cutlasses a lot, but for, you know, people in the West Indies and Africa,
Starting point is 01:19:59 they call that, we call them machete. They call cutlass. So it's a Dirty Cutlass. Alright. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of. They call cutlass. So it's a dirty cutlass. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to you all then.
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