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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 242, episode one of Dirt Daily's iGuy Stay,
production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it
is Tuesday, June 21st, 2022.
The rumors are true.
It is Tuesday, June 21st.
Oh, yeah.
You know what that means.
Yeah, we of course know what that means you
know it is jack say it let's say it on three one two three national smoky mountains Day. What? National Smoothie Day. Smoothie Day.
I was so close.
Also, National Peaches and Cream Day for all the
fans of 112. And a good
flavor of smoothie, perhaps.
Fantastic. Well,
congratulations to all who are partaking
in National Peaches and Cream Day, National Smoothie
Day, or National Smoky Mountain
Day. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. the Shark Enjoyer, Dew Destroyer, Jack, not Sawyer.
A little lost reference for you.
Those are three things that rhyme with each other.
I just panicked and made those up because I didn't have an a.k.a. for today.
But I do have Mountain Dew Flamin dew flaming hot which i've never tried before
and mountain dew uh spark which just appears to be like more of a a raspberry lemonade flavor
flaming hot is the is the real ticket here huh you haven't had either of those i haven't had
either so i will be testing them live live i also have a uh a spit bucket wow because i don't want to necessarily ingest
uh two mountain dews live on air or at any point why'd you hold up your kid's backpack when you
said well i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray it's miles gray i'm just
a hunk of hunk of burning love i'll smoke smoke a bunch, a bunch, a bunch of drugs.
Because we're going to go see Elvis this week.
And I am fucking excited because that shit looks so dumb.
I can't be more excited to scream with my fellow podcast network mates.
We've got a big family trip to go see elvis together so
i'm yeah yeah i'm getting ready we might have to invite our guest who is newly of the iheart family
actually sure am do we do do we do the whole theater how are we doing this are we buying
tickets are we doing the whole damn theater the whole damn theater all right well maybe some of
the folks from one-upsmanship might be able to roll through because we are thrilled to be joined by, first of all, a brilliant and talented writer and director.
Thank you.
Second of all, co-host of a bunch of wonderful podcasts over at Small Beans.
And third of all, one of the hosts of One-Upsmanship, which is now an iHeartJoint EP by DJ Danil.
Please welcome the brilliant, the talented, the lovely, my friend, Adam Ganza!
Adam!
Hold me closer, Adam Ganza.
Take me down that lover's highway.
Lay me down in sheets of linen.
Teach me all your ginger ways.
That's how they sing it to me.
That's how they sing it to you.
That's how they sing it to me.
Is sheets of linen?
It's not going to be that way.
Is that you or that Elton?
What's the real, is that your lyric?
I don't know the song.
That's Elton.
Slightly changed for context.
Okay, got it, got it, got it.
Yeah, you got those linen sheets.
Is it take me down that
lover's highway take me down to the headlights on the highway count the headlight okay you just
added a little bit yours yours was a little bit more fucky to be honest with you like there was
more fuck in your in your revision to tiny dancer which i loaded that pitch up a little bit. I loaded it up a little bit. Sorry if you got anybody in the eye.
Loaded the extra set.
Welcome, Adam.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
How are you doing, man?
I'm doing great, man.
Thrilled to be on the iHeart Network playing video games for money.
I mean, what else can I ask for, really?
That's right.
Just loving it.
I think, is there a build happening, maybe, in the world of one-upsmanship?
Is there a build, meaning a PC build?
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm on it right now.
Behold.
Holy shit.
The audience can't see it, but I'm working on what looks like a space station.
It's a PC that was made.
But they can see it in their mind.
This is an audio medium.
Absolutely.
Yeah, it does look like you are in the light year module that he flies around in.
When Daniel installed it, I was like, so it's going to have those lights all the time?
And he was like, oh yeah, this thing, yeah, it's going to have lights forever.
And it's just neon lights all the time.
It has rims that spin constantly yes it has hydraulics i think i
didn't think you needed it looks basically the same lighting inside of a hummer limo that would
pick up kids for prom yeah in the it reminded me of the first fast and furious like the street
racing the first fast and furious oh where they got the the ground effects the the underglow and
shit yeah yeah yeah well are are you adam as a filmmaker how are you how do you feel about Oh, where they got the ground effects, the underglow and shit? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, are you, Adam, as a filmmaker, how do you feel about Baz Luhrmann and Elvis?
Baz.
Baz.
So, it just looks weird.
It does, doesn't it?
It just looks weird.
I like Baz Luhrmann's thing.
I don't always like his thing.
I don't always like his thing that i don't know uh that
elvis looks bizarrely like a doll or something like he like he like i feel like something about
the elvis character looks unreal to me yeah you know and i mean that's weird but that also makes
me want to see it more like to see like what did he do man what did he do what the fuck happened what did he do what so hey boss makes
cool stuff though yeah it's definitely cool stuff so that's why part of me is like it feels at the
very least it will entertain me from like wow he really no doubt he really went and fucked that one
up huh yeah and just the entertainment of that or to be pleasantly surprised like because that
trailer where his like air fucking was like setting off the brains of the people in the audience
it just like focuses in on him like yeah violently humping the air and people i almost want to read
the script like how that scene was written like and how their
writer was like and then as he gyrates his hips like something takes over the audience yeah interior
audience's mind explosions happening but they look shiny right it feels like it feels like the
early boz lerman is like when good drug experiences happen and this feel this feels like the early Baz Luhrmann is like when good drug experiences happen.
And this feels like the bad kind.
This feels like, oh, no, I've taken too much or too little or the wrong kind.
And now I am having a waking fever dream.
Also, shout out to someone from changing their name from Mark to Baz.
That's also another thing I just want to say.
Big fan of that.
He used to be Mark Lerman.
Maybe it sounds too much like Mark Furman after the OJ trial.
That's a point.
How about Baz?
Like cuss.
He could have got something that was part of mark or marcus but
marcus lerman but who knows i wonder if that's like uh like a thing like you know because he's
from australia isn't he yeah i believe so so like you know oh wait it is it's like a nickname
because they said he looked like basil brush i don't know what that is his hair i mean that's
from the english that also that might be hindsight? That might be him like trying to justify it in the aftermath.
And Basil brush is a red Fox puppet.
That's not fun.
Oh,
so they were fucking with him.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's a guy I want to see do a space movie.
What is Buzz Lerman in space?
What is that?
Right.
There's a whole,
there's a whole Wikipedia.
There's a whole section on how his name evolved.
You seem positively gazumped by this, Miles.
No, I'm going to gazump him by airing out the trajectory of his name.
I'm trying to utilize gazump as much as possible in my day-to-day conversation.
Have you heard the phrase gazump, Adam?
Not enough.
I mean, I've heard it three times now
and i hope to hear it much more no i have not uh strictly ballroom anybody who hasn't gone back and
watched strictly ballroom which is like his first big movie yeah it rules like that's a really good
movie uh about ballroom dancing and it's still very good.
I had no idea that was from him.
Yeah, that's how we know who he is. But if you go back and watch it, oh, I see.
I see how he was going to become this shiny, splendid man, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just took my first sip of Mountain Dew Flamin' Hot.
Wait, oh, okay.
So you're doing it as we're just going to check in every couple of seconds.
It's not going to be an event.
I don't think anyone's that interested.
So what'd you have?
Mountain Dew Flamin' Hot, which is
dew with a blast of heat and
citrus flavor with
other natural flavors.
It's fine.
It's not my favorite Mountain Dew.
What do you compare it to? I was confused
as to how they were going to incorporate heat but as i drank it i realized that you know i i love a good ginger beer now
that i don't drink booze anymore i love a good ginger beer because it's got a little kick
and this this reminds me of that a little bit little ginger like more of a flavor profile
than like a cayenne like pepperyery, like fuck you type bite.
Okay, got it.
Yeah, they can't get away with that.
No, too many white people drink Mountain Dew for them to have it.
It's spicy.
Almost exclusively, Miles.
Almost exclusively.
Meanwhile, a person like me would be like, oh, spicy?
And I'm like, the fuck is this?
It tastes like Fireball or some shit.
It does.
It tastes like the very beginning of Fireball.
Yeah, it's not
it's oh yeah it's rounded off though in the way that all mountain dew flavors are it doesn't it
never has like a bad aftertaste never like lingers too long it rounds off quickly and it's it's fine
it's fine bartender let me get a let me get a flaming hot and uh fireball
yeah i'd be worried that would instantly kill me you know i mean like i'd just be worried like Let me get a Flamin' Hot and Fireball. The fuck? Slice of Mountain Dew over to you.
I'd be worried that would instantly kill me.
You know what I mean?
I'd just be worried, like,
that the weight on the heart
that that thing's got to do to you
after a certain age.
It's like, right.
I mean, I smoked for a long time.
I got to think about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's cool, man.
I get you.
Yeah, yeah.
You see through.
You see through my spinny baseball cap and lollipop that I try to wear to make everybody think I'm you.
I speak only for myself, Jack, as a former smoker.
But I would die instantly if I ingested that, I think.
That's great that you quit smoking.
I haven't hung around with you in a while.
Five years.
Hey, man.
Congratulations.
I haven't hung out with you because of all the cigarette smoke.
But yeah, it sounds good.
I didn't hear that. Honestly, couldn't take it, man. It was a lot. you because of all the cigarette smoke. But yeah, it sounds good. I didn't hear that.
Honestly, couldn't take it, man.
It was a lot.
You were smoking all the time.
Like around my kids, my pregnant wife.
I was like, bro.
You were like, well, then I guess she needs to get out of here.
When I was like, Adam, she needs to bounce then, huh?
You don't blow it on her stomach?
Oh, I guess you don't want to have a cool baby?
All right, Adam.
Gans, we're going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners
a couple of things we're talking about.
We're going to talk about some gun laws that
we might get and what,
you know, like how
hardcore those laws are
according to the mainstream media.
And then in reality,
we're going to talk about what,
what is holding it up,
um,
which is kind of entertaining and horrifying.
We're going to talk about the Biden maybe shouldn't run chorus getting
louder.
We're going to talk about how Disney castrated buzz light year,
uh,
by not letting Tim Allen play him and according to patricia
heaton bringing the heat and takes and then we're going to talk about matt damon the face of crypto
fuckery all that plenty more or maybe some of that and plenty more but first adam we do like
to ask our guest what is something from your search history
well the most recent thing i searched was uh the lyrics to tiny dancer of course but but after but
before that it was uh a cheap cavalier king charles spaniel because i'm uh i keep edging
over the pandemic about whether i'm going to buy a dog or not the latest reason i've decided
not to do it is they're so expensive you said your edge how does that work i'm edging because
i keep like are you doing something else okay no no okay got it i'm just i'm blowing smoke on
the language yeah confuse me a bit okay so you're considering buying a dog i consider it yeah
considering and then like i get almost to the point where I fill out the application.
I'm like,
ah,
I got,
they have to eat and walk.
I don't know if I want to do both of those things,
you know,
and walk.
Come on.
It's too much,
too much for me.
Yeah.
So then the latest reason that I was like,
maybe if I find a very cheap dog,
right.
So I looked for a cheap and put that,
make sure you put that in the search,
the initial search,
filter it out,
filter the bold Cavalier King.
Yeah.
Like shit,
shitty Cavalier King Charles.
Yeah.
B grade,
B grade.
I'm looking for B grades,
used dogs.
Any used dogs to purchase?
Like,
uh,
I did not find one that was less than a thousand dollars.
Cause apparently dogs are,
there's a major markup on dogs right now.
That's why just rescue.
Isn't that the cheapest dog you can get?
Free?
So hopefully my landlord doesn't listen to podcasts.
We are not allowed a dog in this complex, which is why I need a quiet dog I can get away with.
That's like the one real restriction.
So these were a quiet breed, I was told.
That is, I will will say those were the
dogs that we had when we had dogs and r.i.p miles r.i.p finn r.i.p emma well this is not like we we
went through uh three dogs over the course of the pandemic this is over the course of my wife and I being married for, you know, 15 years.
But the one of the most stressful times of my life was being in a apartment where we were not allowed to have dogs.
And our dog was very quiet, but like just having to smuggle him in and out every single time.
Right.
To shit.
And then like having to like, like you know every everybody you walked past
you were like are they an arc are they gonna narc on me like i have to so now i have to like go
outside the walls of the apartment complex and then you know put on a disguise so that they don't
know it's me right and then you like start to resent your dog it's tough man yeah so good luck
though good luck thank you sounds like i'm gonna have a great time
i have to do the whole like oh where did i get this dog from if the landlord drives up or whatever
you throw it at them yeah you're like is this your dog looks like you have a dog yeah what is
something you think is overrated people aren't gonna like this one i'm sorry but i think the northman's a little underrated
this oh you're you're going underrated nope i am not i am going overrated it is overrated sorry
yes forgive me if i said it wrong uh the northman's a little overrated okay i know i've never seen it
so i'm not offended but uh i don't want to spoil everything but i can voice my critique of it very briefly it is that
there's the protagonist isn't active which i know is very film schooly but like it's an issue we're
kind of waiting for him to do something for like about an hour in the movie and you're like well
and then people have been upset about it being an all-white movie and then there's been the
backlash about you know well it well, it's Vikings.
And my backlash to that is they got Bjork as a blind crow wizard.
So I don't think they needed to, like, get super, like, historically accurate with this movie.
I think they could have maybe branched out a little bit.
Right.
So that's kind of, you know what I mean?
It's also like, we're not telling a real story.
You know, like, let's, you know. Let's get past that, I think.
Right.
So it is based on, I haven't seen it.
I do know that it's based on Hamlet,
which Hamlet, pretty passive or pretty not active
as far as protagonists go.
But because of the Shakespearean language
and because of how good he is at,
I don't know if you've heard of this guy, Shakespeare, but
he's pretty good at bringing the
interiority of his characters out
so that you can kind of
ride with them. Oh, like Michelle Gondry?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little bit like Gondry.
Yeah, yeah.
But they don't quite carry it off
the same way they do in Hamlet,
which is my favorite movie.
Hamlet. Because I'm favorite movie, Hamlet,
because I'm very well-educated.
You're really into Mel Gibson.
The Kenneth Branagh one is just so exactly the play.
Yeah, Hamlet is an interesting character,
but because he tells you what he thinks.
Right.
When you don't have that, it's, you know, it's not,
by the way, it's not bad.
I just think the people who are hype about it
are not willing. A little bit overhyped. just think the people who are hype about it are not willing.
A little bit overhyped.
What are the reasons people are hyped about it?
Because it's super metal.
You've never seen anything like this.
It is very metal.
There is a naked volcano fight in it.
There is an actual capturing a village.
Lots of one shots, which is very cool.
And it looks period accurate.
And it's intense. So I don't want to take that away from it it is all those things but i really
like robert eggers what's your favorite eggers the lighthouse have you guys seen the lighthouse
i have yeah the lighthouse oh i love it you do not like it i'm excited i'm excited to see the
northman but i just like never it's hard to see movies when you got kids. I just never, like the timing never lined up.
So I was very excited to see it.
And I really liked the lighthouse.
I really liked the witch.
And yeah, I think he does a good job of like making history as weird as it probably was.
Barring any crow wizards.
I like his weird witchcraft thing.
I like that it keeps popping up in all of his movies.
Like, the lighthouse was fantastic.
Like, the weird sea shanties and stuff.
Like, count me in.
Captain Ahab bullshit, count me in.
I like it.
Yeah.
And then it was like, lies, probably.
But yeah, I loved it.
So I'm excited. And it the my favorite type of overrated
when i still like i'm excited to see that now because okay good good yeah yeah so yeah and i
don't expect it to be perfect so i'm excited what's something you think is underrated adam
so i have one obvious one which came to me first which was David Lynch's weather reports. Are you guys checking in on that?
Today is Friday, June 17th
in Los Angeles. Can you believe it?
Yeah, just with his numbers of the day.
I love his weird bullshit. But the one that I think is a little bit more fun is
the game Cyberpunk 2077.
A game that has become just so maligned because of the botched launch.
Rollout.
Which you guys probably even heard about it, I imagine.
Oh, yeah.
I game myself.
Oh, great.
Okay, red.
But I stayed away from it because I remember everyone's like, dude, if you don't have the,
even like the PS5, we're like, well, the PS5 version might be better.
And they're like, oh boy, it's all fucked up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it's good.
It's a good game.
Oh, it's come back around now
and it is performing properly.
It was always a pretty good game,
but they also have fixed it now
so that it doesn't have the major performance issues.
And it's just a really good game.
And it's kind of one of those like,
yeah, I get that people
feel betrayed but like just play it you'll have like you'll have a good time and it's i i love
the cyberpunk vibe in general and you know so if you're into that it's not like the deepest
harlan ellisonist cyberpunk fiction or anything but it's a cool game you know so i i recommend it
for people not appreciating how good it actually is. Is there a discount
yet? Pretty sure.
Pretty sure it's pretty cheap again.
They're trying to move it, especially on PlayStation.
If you have a PlayStation, they're trying to move it.
Okay.
It's not a game you
beat in a certain number of hours.
You're still just playing it.
Well, it does have
a limited amount of content,
but, like, I would say it's about a 60-hour game.
In your case, Jack,
I don't know that your children will be ready for Cyberpunk.
I wouldn't play it in front of them.
Hey, man, throw them in the deep end,
just like I taught them how to swim.
Dad, why are they getting surgery
where they have metal arms and stuff?
You have to explain all that.
You know, but, yeah, it's a long game,
and it's one of those,
I think the smaller nonsense in most games
is actually the best stuff in this game.
Like just the go take a guy
whose dick malfunctioned to a robot doctor.
It's funny.
It's a fun quest.
That kind of stuff.
Yeah.
It's great.
Helping the community out.
Yeah, help them out.
Poor guy.
Yeah, it's true. It's like my Yeah. Help them out. Poor guy. Yeah.
It's like that.
My question being like,
you're still playing a game like a couple of years later is kind of stupid.
Are you winning?
Like you,
wait,
you,
you,
you like that movie,
but isn't it only an hour and a half long?
It's over,
right?
Why,
why do you still like it?
Oh,
no.
Well,
there are a lot of games like that in your defense there
are games that go on and on and on this is just not one of those games right yeah okay so it does
have a timeline on it all right break in all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back. me for I have followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two
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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball
just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them.
Why is that?
Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
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And we're back.
And we might get gun laws.
There's, you know, I'm just following this from the headlines.
I've read that it's sweeping gun reform and i've
also seen that it's like not not so sweeping um and i i just had this sneaking suspicion that if
the republicans were going to let it through that it might not be the the game changer that we're all like kind of hoping for it to be falls just short
just barely if mitch mcconnell's bought into it also along with pelosi schumer and biden
but yeah i'll just say like we've been saying the same fucking thing for decades now like
get rid of the fucking assault weapons very easy right there was like
the biggest calls were for that or like raising the age like you know like you're bringing up
a couple weeks ago jack like how you can't fucking rent a car unless you're a certain age because
they're like we don't want to give you fucking destruction destructive technologies and you
barely could get over your favorite band break that That age, 26. Also the age that in Israel that where they don't allow you to buy a gun until you're 20.
Really?
Because that's interesting.
This bill does not ban ARs.
It does not ban high capacity magazines.
It does not raise the age to purchase a firearm but it does make some gun dealers have to
get a couple more licenses it does allow for authorities to look at people's juvenile records
if they're buying a gun between 18 and 20 okay that's an incremental thing, but nowhere near sweeping. There's some money for school safety, a couple bucks for mental health, and more jail for gun traffickers.
Got it.
What does school safety look like?
Is that guns in schools?
That's the concern.
It's turrets on the side of every school building.
Yeah, cafeteria lady looking like Commando out here.
They said that they are working with an upstart CEO by the name of Miles Dyson, who's working, has startups called Skynet.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I love that.
New technology for school safety.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Got a family.
Seems like a good person.
But yeah.
So you asshole.
Even we're talking a lot about that off mic the three options for terminator yeah but like yeah
it falls woefully short right and when you even hear money for school safety it's going to be
for stuff that you know like like the hardening of up of a soft target type shit rather than like addressing the just just
in control uncontrollable amount of weapons that are just circulating in the country
ar what band so the thing that we've seen work in our lifetime like after columbine
they did the ar band well in like the 990s they did one right they did the like in our lifetime
i'm assuming like our our listeners were alive
in the 90s that might not be fair but we've seen that work they they will not be re-implementing
that it's no there will not be because again we talk about this a lot if if you can't sell
assault rifles that means gun manufacturers make less of the monies so oh yeah that's the argument oh so you're gonna make me
stop paying selling my fucking weapons asshole okay i'll find somebody that'll protect my
business and i'll primary you you know those are like the forces at work for a lot of these gun
humping congress people but again it's woefully short of being transformative. But because Congress has done so little in terms of gun control, this allows like the like mesmerized journalism industry to be like, wow, this is pretty significant.
But that's disingenuous to act like this should provide some relief. This is just further indication that federal government is completely incapable of tackling a big issue like this.
It's all just like this incrementalism.
While, again, it wasn't enough that like 31 people died in mass shootings between Buffalo and Uvalde.
And this is still like that energy is already.
You know, it seems really geared toward
a news cycle you know like this seems like a decision that's geared toward like something
was done therefore we can move on you know and like not at all addressing the the serious issue
here uh i was i was stunned to hear this is the most comprehensive legislation since 93, 1993, 30 years.
Right.
That's wild.
Looking at like the other issues that are having on or that they're experiencing and negotiating between Democrats and Republicans right now, one of the things that's up in the air are both parties tussling over defining what an abusive partner is.
Because there are loopholes around, you know, people with domestic
violence records being able to obtain weapons. This is from an AP article, quote, federal law
bars people convicted of domestic violence against a spouse from acquiring guns, but leaves a loophole
for other romantic relationships. Everytown for Gun Safety, which advocates firearms curbs,
says 31 states bar convicted domestic abusers from buying firearms including 19 that
cover violent dating partners so but what senators are disagreeing over are how to define such
relationships which is insane you want to protect the violent dating partners of the world you want
they need they need right like how is this not a political loser for them? How is like being like, we've got to look out for the rights of people who've been convicted of domestic assault, but not the police.
Not to.
Right.
Well, also, it's not as though the only people that are in jeopardy from like mass shootings are romantic partners.
Like, how about maybe if you do any violence that you're that you might not be able
to buy a gun how about that those are you know like those are typically predictors i feel like
maybe for democrats republicans are like well maybe most americans can agree you shouldn't
be abusing a romantic partner and if that is off the table to get you guns or probably like whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa what's even like what is it like a date or like two dates? Like, are you kiss?
Like, do you hook up?
Like, right.
Like, that's what they're fucking fighting over.
And like Chris Murphy's like, dude, like it should be if you've been convicted at all.
It doesn't matter what the context was.
It shows that you are you are you are abusive, that you are willing to use violence to express your anger or something like that that that should immediately
what is the possible argument against that like what what are the republicans saying
that is like well it's okay it's less it's less violent if you're doing it to someone who you're
not married to it's so it's so confusing it's so transparently like wrong but that that i don't know that it's
getting held up when it should just be like again for an up and down vote like i'd imagine most
people of good conscience would be like yeah if you're an abusive partner in any fucking
relationship doesn't matter like were they married like right what. What is your idea?
What is your idea even of a violent person?
If I hit my friend,
I shouldn't be able to buy a gun.
You know what I mean?
It's as simple as that.
If you throw your controller when playing video games,
maybe you shouldn't be able to.
What's considered a controller?
Let's talk about that.
And what's throw?
Like at the tv on
the ground up in the air yeah come on right if you throw it up in the air while saying whippy
then that's okay but if you throw it while uttering an expletive i don't know i don't
want you to have a gun this feels like the vince mcmahon corollary by the way i'm sneaking that
story and like like how like this feels like the kind of debate that's
happening among people who pay for ndas you know i mean or like or like have mistresses or whatever
like why i want to still be able to hit my mistress how are we going to get it and i have
so many guns how can i right keep my world the way it is you know it reveals like just sort of how
normalized that thinking is too that like like immediately the idea of violence or domestic abuse isn't like,
nope,
that's it.
That's it.
Like that's,
I don't give a shit.
Most people aren't violent like that to act like,
to try and make excuses for that only furthers this like sort of dark cloud
that we have and wondering like when the next thing is going to happen.
And,
um,
you know,
we,
again,
like we have to just reduce the number of these fucking war guns that we have, like that, that, that just
get in the hands of whoever. But again, every, you see everything that's happening. Like I said,
it means massive profits, profit losses for gun makers. So then it's, that's not, that's not right.
Then they'll say it's a mental health issue, but we aren't seeing anything that resembles like a massive overhaul of how we look at mental health access in the country. So miss me with that. And if anything, this bill is probably just created more potential prisoners. Right. Like that's where they're like, well, there's that, because if we go too far, then it becomes a problem that's how you get the republicans on board i mean the mental health is such a red herring right where it's like sir solve that too great what's that called then
okay if you can't do guns it's like the word comprehensive and this is the most comprehensive
gun reform it's like that's that's a bit that's a big word what do we oh it has the most laws
right and again like i just feel like put your effort in that,
that,
that would have untold benefits,
even if not to say like,
forget gun control,
but like,
if you're that serious,
actually take that,
take that challenge up and try and create like beneficial access for people
who have,
who would need mental health support.
Like you would see that,
that effect pretty clearly over like the course of the years of a program like that but again you know i i don't
they'd rather just say there's some money there and keep it moving while essentially because here's
the deal both parties know they're gonna get fucking heat for doing fuck all again like
republicans you know whether or not they
fear their own voters but independents not voting for them or democrats definitely hearing it from
the base or you know parts of the base being like what the fuck is going on over there so they are
it's like in their write-ups they're like and they're doing their best to conclude a deal because
both parties are motivated to get a deal done in time for the july 4th recess
god and then you're like you fucking losers really well we have summer fridays uh so we're
gonna be taking off fridays and then of course uh recess july 4th at which point we will not be
working we can't work in the summer it's so. You can't do laws when it's hot.
You can't even think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You see how we have to dress.
Yeah.
But yeah,
that's the current back and forth with our quote unquote gun control
legislation.
Well,
from my end,
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It delivers on its promised flavor profile of raspberry lemonade. And as with most Mountain Dew Spark. It delivers on its promised flavor profile of raspberry lemonade.
And as with
most Mountain Dew flavors,
it requires willpower for me
to stop myself from drinking the
whole bottle. It's candy.
It's liquid candy.
It's too good. It should
also be banned.
Does it leave a good taste in your
mouth? Or is it one of those
things you got to keep drinking it to avoid that taste you know it's a i've always felt like
mountain dew finishes very clean compared to other sodas okay yeah right personally okay so this is
this is no different it's just you know it it feels almost like you're drinking liquid sugar, which is what you are doing.
So Flamin' Hot has 280 calories per 20 ounce bottle.
The Spark has 290.
So they've really sugared that one up.
Okay.
Letting you know.
Let's talk real quick. There just seems to be more mainstream adoption of the storyline.
Should Biden really run again for president?
There's this Atlantic article that's like quoting anonymous senior administration officials.
But it's just generally it has the vibe of like checking in with an elderly relative
who you're just like, it's only a matter of time.
You know, how's he holding up of time. How's he holding up?
How's he doing? In this case, I'll just read the... At first, it opens, people are like,
yeah, he's doing great. He seems good. For his age. For his age. He's a little down in the dumps
because his approval rating is lower than he wants it to be.
And then it comes with this paragraph.
But there's another recurring theme I keep hearing, notably from people predisposed to liking the president.
He just seems old.
One senior administration official told me at a social function a few weeks ago.
There is nothing like the U.S. presidency to accelerate the aging process.
ago. There's nothing like the U.S. presidency to accelerate the aging process. This has been well documented, usually in those side-by-side photos of spry incoming presidents seen next to
dramatically older looking versions of themselves. Even for people who live here.
Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yet Biden keeps insisting he will run again. The White House
reaffirmed as much on Monday night via a tweet from the president's press secretary. So that
was this past, not yesterday, but the day before.
To be clear, as the president has said repeatedly, he plans to run in 2024, she wrote.
It was an instant classic in the genre of political statements that raise far more questions
than the one they were supposedly meant to answer.
Yeah, man.
I mean, like this, this one seems pretty open and shut to me.
Nobody going to be, look, bro, bro nobody gonna be mad at you right no just announce now give people time to be like
oh maybe we could use a little bit of more left or you play the cards close and you know you have
the the gop thinking they're going right after biden and whatever blah blah blah but either way i mean
like good fucking luck i'm just i'm concerned because i remember how much they lined up behind
them during the primaries and i'm concerned that these can that these kinds of opinions they're not
going to primary them you know i mean like yeah like and they should it's like trump it's like
the same thing with trump right right says Right. So privately, Republicans are, you know, murmuring that they they are afraid that him being at the top of the ticket will negatively affect the party's chances in an election.
Yeah.
But like you have to get the buy in of every like it's not just the people in Congress or the DNC.
There's a whole donor class.
You also have to get their buy in on or else they're going to be like, no want corpo man to run for president right what the fuck you talking about you're going to run this
but that's where things will get a little weird donors have to be like if there's a global
pandemic uh there's a there's a war in europe there's inflation running out of control there's
fascism on the right let's get somebody younger who is ready to meet any of these challenges and
he's like 80 he's so yeah experience i love the experience like i love the the fact that
the if you just like if his memories had weight and you took like the weight of all everything
in his head they would place you sometime like in the mid 70s. I love that, that like that, that his entire life experience puts him completely out of step with the massive challenges of our times that we need the president to be able to deal with.
To use like video game analogy, that's like being like, we need the world's best Donkey Kong player to come in and fuck these kids up in call of duty yeah because they have video game experience i'm like the game has fucking
changed there's no barrels to hop over that's not happening this person will fucking crumble when
they get that controller in their hand because it's a completely different skill set a completely
different set of challenges a completely different level of awareness that you have to have
and this guy only i'm honest honestly the poorest person he probably knows is like his grandchild right
you know that's right yeah so and i'm still firmly in the camp of like better democrats than
outright fascists but like i just even if you're operating from that perspective, like just we need a Democrat still in the White House.
This is not this is not it.
No, there's there's nothing he's going to do that's going to reinvigorate like people's support for him for this like version of the Democratic Party.
You need to like go left and young, further left and younger.
He doesn't realize that there is no going back to pre-2016.
Like that's a fact that he can't reconcile.
No.
You know, like the landscape is permanently this way.
You know, I remember when we used to be able to eat lunch together.
Right.
Great.
But that's also when I was saying real problematic stuff about African-Americans.
Right.
Kind of came back around.
Now I've evolved a bit.
You're like, what the fuck?
Right.
Again, his whole track record is like you are from a bygone era.
You somehow your corporal existence has managed to get to this point.
It's that's not enough.
That's not enough. That's not enough. And again, it's hard to see how any of we get the kind of candidate we need within the frame of the existing framework of the two party system.
Like it's but he's not going to do it. He's not going to do it himself. Like he's not going to come through and like just be like, yeah, you know what? I thought it through.
And, you know, he's not going to come out here like jumbo and be like, ah, you go ahead, Bobby Kennedy.
Like you got this thing.
Or could you imagine like one of his like
great, great grandkids who's like on TikTok,
like makes a video roasting him
and he somehow sees it.
And he's like, just a single tear goes down his face.
He's like, maybe I'm-
Maybe I'm old.
It is all bad.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm finally old.
Maybe that's what it would take, like his family.
I mean, how many presidents have ever voluntarily not run twice?
I think it's just LBJ.
I think that's it.
What about Jimmy Carter?
He did not voluntarily.
He just got rinsed by Reagan.
But LBJ, that's who i'm thinking of i'm like lb you know
he had the part of the administration that he finished after kennedy was assassinated then he
he had a full administration and then he bowed out like unexpectedly ahead of his he could have
run for a second term but then like he he was also at a point in his life where he was just like,
fuck it.
Like apparently the day his,
like his last day in office,
he,
his daughter like remembers,
like he started smoking and she was like,
what are you doing?
And he's like,
I quit smoking five years ago for you guys.
And I quit drinking and that's over now i'm living
for me and then like he was dead like two years later everybody show me your scars show me all
your scars all of you yeah it was uh and i just i feel like biden doesn't have that in him he's
just like uh he's just gonna keep kind of bopping along. Because he wanted it
so bad. That's what it is. Miles is
totally right. It's because he wanted it so
bad for so long.
You know, he's not going to
give up his favorite toy.
And he's optimistic. I mean, look at these Cheerios
commercials, Jack. Yeah, Jack.
You go there, I see a
I saw a Siamese woman
with a miscegenated fella and it was something else
and they were selling yogurt progress baby like kids are kids are great
it's the kind of malarkey i can get behind you know
but i play it square jack uh-huh all right. So hopefully, I don't know how this is accomplished
other than somebody coming through and primarying him.
And that does give me hope because I do think there's way more energy
for a left of mainstream Democrat candidate than they realize there is.
And it's probably, like I'm hoping somebody like AOC or something
just comes through and primaries him and they see like how much energy there is.
Because like anything where he says, OK, I'm not running and the mainstream Democratic Party gets to like put their candidate together is not going to go great.
Like, who would that be? Who would put would they put kamala buddha
that's my guess yeah yeah it'd be i don't know god i don't even want to think about it yeah
they're all they're all uniquely not great but i again at the end of the day honestly someone who
at least understands look i'm willing i don't know if I'm going to say that now, but I would hope that the next slight shift they give is realize that poor people are suffering in the
United States. And that is something that would need to be addressed. You don't have to go all in
because they don't, they never do, but maybe like, uh, something slightly better might help you.
But at the end of the day, it feels, I i'm just so cynical because they know right now they have a lot of people scared with like this binary of like oh you're
gonna let this shit happen all right right so settle for nothing yeah yeah exactly i think
the economic disparity it remains neglected like it was it was a huge issue in 2016 it's worse now
you know what i mean like and nobody seems 100 interested
in addressing it head-on except for some a younger candidate and at one point it's going to become
untenable to not address it you know like so maybe that moment is now well and the fascists are going
to address it sooner or later i mean that's what trump did in 2016 he just like didn't do shit
about it when he was in office yeah yeah that's all you got to do
because they don't realize that there's a huge gaping wound open wound in most american people
that if you press it energizes them but if it's pressed the wrong way yeah you push them towards
fascism yeah but most people are willing to accept i it is so hard to live in this country right now
it is so hard to live in this country right now. It is so hard to live in this country right now.
And any other shit that's like papering that over and talking about like, oh, look at our
energy independence.
That doesn't mean shit to most people.
Right.
Like really?
And so if you surrender the whole narrative to be able to express to people that you understand
what's going on, dude, that just leaves the space like you're saying for someone to come in and say it's i and only i who can solve this and let me point my fingers at the
four groups we need to eliminate for in order for us to have netflix cheaper if net if tucker
carlson runs in 2024 we're fucked like or desantis even desantis yeah this is slick dude he's slick yeah he's not stupid
he's he knows he knows where trump fucked up right that's the thing and i think that's what makes it
i think that's why there's a lot of talk about him too they're like yo he's on the same path
but he doesn't he knows how to be less i mean he's also has a ton of gaffes himself but he at
least was observing that trump presidency and i was like he's 20 has a ton of gaffes himself, but he at least was observing that Trump presidency. And I was like, hmm, he's 20 percent competent.
My God, what couldn't he do?
Right.
Like, yeah, not get any preorder, any vaccines for the youngest children of Florida.
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Boof.
Yeah, man.
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And people are pissed about this uh light year movie not for the reasons i'm pissed
which is that i don't understand why how i just don't understand it i don't understand why this
is the movie based on andy's favorite movie right was the toy was based it's many oh so it's a 90s
movie like that's what no no no no it's not a 90s
i mean yes this in the world of this child it came out in the 90s but it was made now with
our modern sensibilities wow so i'll just say that one of the people in this story is the drunkest
i've ever seen a human being in public i'm not going to say which of the people it is,
but Patricia Heaton came out and was like,
Toy Story has castrated the Buzz Lightyear
by recasting him from Tim Allen.
We need to protect our Tim Allen.
Huge mistake, assholes.
And some right-wingers seem to think that Tim Allen has been replaced by Disney because, like, all the reasons.
He's bad.
Not just, like, snitching on all the people he dealt coke with back in the day.
But more recently, he advocated for Trump.
I like how you're going after him for not having a heart as, like, a coke dealer.
Yeah, man.
You're like, oh, because you got them loose lips huh tim i'm just saying have to tighten your ass up when you
on the inside but he he's also pro-trump uh claimed that he liked how the former president
pissed people off what a weak ass way to say you're just the most awful fucking person in 2017
he compared being a conservative in Hollywood to being
a victim of the Holocaust.
So... It's their favorite go-to.
They're doing
Holocaust to me. Also, Toy Story
4 came out after he said that shit.
So I don't think...
I feel like they're not.
What the fuck? Right? Toy Story 4 came out
after 2017. I believe so. Yeah, I think that's right.
Yeah.
So when the trailer for Lightyear came out fox 2019 to propagate the notion that alan was recast because of politics
and they like put up a picture of tim allen like very kind and clean cut and then chris evans look
like they like darkened his hair and like made look like he's a Sandinista
a little bit in the picture.
Which is dumb for
many reasons.
Isn't Buzz Lightyear like 20
or 25 in this story?
Yeah, definitely younger.
Yeah, Alan's 68.
This is such an open and shut conversation.
He sounds old because he is.
What?
This is where such an open and shut conversation. Yeah. He sounds old because he is. Yeah. What?
This is where they just use like, because no one on, I mean, most people who are so partisan, they don't, they're not analyzing anything in the headline.
They're like, they replaced him with Chris Evans, the guy, woke guy on Twitter.
That's fucked up.
What are they doing?
How could they?
And then you're going through the logic of it.
What's like, well, you know, this isn't the same Buzz Lightyear that Tim Allen plays in Toy Story, right?
Because that's the little fucking toy version of this thing.
But again, that might be a little too much nuance for the people who are so invested in this notion that...
Tell you who it would have been really confusing for if they used Tim Allen.
The toy Buzz lightyear i mean think about like all the issues he's had differentiating himself from the real buzz lightyear and then real buzz lightyear has the same voice as him
would fucking destroy him you wouldn't know you wouldn't know what to do. There's also a cartoon series where he's voiced by Patrick Warburton
for four seasons.
Tim Allen is also one of the most
financially successful entertainers
of the past 40 years.
Shut up.
That's wild.
He's probably not even taking this role.
He probably fucking turned it down yeah if anything also
disney plus is currently producing a santa claus series starring tim allen so it'd be pretty weird
to cancel him for one project while employing him to play santa claus and where's the where's
the outrage on that by the way that just sounds bad that's extremely bad why are we doing it from
a content perspective.
And then we wanted to talk about Matt Damon real quick.
Got to.
Because we think he's getting a bad rap.
That motherfucker owes me money.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's why.
Not because I think he's getting a bad rap.
So, you know, like right at the peak of crypto,
he told people in a commercial
that fortune will favor them for being brave compared investing in crypto to the Wright brothers.
And then he's kind of getting dragged online for doing that.
Right, because everyone's saying if you bought $1,000 worth of crypto when that commercial aired, you would have less than $400 now.
But also, if you thought that the Super Bowl's advertisement
was the beginning of anything,
like the first time anybody had heard of an idea,
you don't understand how the Super Bowl works
because no, it isn't.
Come on now.
But his ad is seen as kind of a turning point
or a mainstreaming of cryptocurrency, and it does like coincide with crypto, like going mainstream, lots of money pouring in from people who are now all much poorer than they were before that moment. I don't know if it was the Matt Damon ad necessarily, but it did. I remember seeing the ad and being like, oh, wow, this is. This is all bad.
We're doing this.
This is all bad.
Yeah, yeah.
We're really doing it.
They're like, this guy really put himself out there to look this dumb.
I'm like, does he realize what this is going to look like in a little bit?
And then we're here.
Because when you try to buy crypto, that's when you start realizing this is mostly pirates.
You know what I mean?
Like, you got to have a separate hard drive so you can't get hacked and like selling it's not easy and so on. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta have a separate hard drive so you can't get hacked and like
selling.
It's not easy.
And so on.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like,
but right.
Like straight up,
it is on par with like those Tom Selleck reverse mortgage.
Right.
It's just,
he's doing it to young people instead of the elderly.
I mean,
at least you,
at least you could get some money from the bank for your reverse mortgage.
Well,
that's what you say.
Like from day one. Every time I
bring up the Tom Selleck thing, you're like, actually
it's a great deal.
I told you, Jack
and listeners, like I said,
I trust AAG and so
can you.
That commercial is so
fucking malicious.
That shit is so fucked up.
You think he even thought about that? You think he even thought about that?
You think he even thought about that when he took that gig?
At all?
Yeah.
Like, do you think he just...
Wait, who did?
Tom Selleck?
Tom Selleck.
Do you think he, like, do you think he just, like, sure, whatever.
Just put the camera on me.
I'll say it.
Or do you think, like, he doesn't think...
I have a feeling, when you get to that age, like, the deals weren't that good when he
was coming up.
Mm.
Right.
I don't know what kind of ip he
owns like back end stuff where he's like his money keeps coming in so i feel like at a certain point
like i see myself being damn near 60 and shit i'm like zeitgang if you need a blood transfusion for
water that is potable for you to drink please Please hit up Blood is Thicker Than Water.
But like, it seems like for him,
they put a bag in front of him. He'd say, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Please.
Sorry, can we just get a confirmation?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, can you sign that
with the contract that we, you just need to sign
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sign, sign,
sign. Oh, yeah, it's already back to us.. Yeah, sign, sign, sign. Oh, yeah.
It's already back to us.
Thanks.
He also...
Tom Selleck has ranches
that steal money from neighboring ranches.
That was something that he got in trouble for doing.
So he's all the way...
He's just a rich, rich old guy
who's doing rich old guy stuff.
Ranch stealing, apparently, among the things he's doing with his wealth.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
But it does feel like anybody involved in a crypto ad, and I'm going to go ahead and include my good friend Joel Embiid, 76ers, great MVP runner up forup for the past i think three years in a row he like as the shit
was hitting the fan like as everything was going falling completely apart in the world of crypto
he debuted in an ad that was like not not only was it like crypto is good, but it compared people who doubted him to people who doubted crypto.
Oh, my God.
Which is like so, yeah.
I mean, all of them.
LeBron, fucking Larry David.
Like, shame on all these fucking people who came out here to normalize this shit.
Because at the end of the day, the whole point of all this shit with NFTs, with these celebrity endorsements, is to normalize this shit because at the end of the day the whole point of all this shit with nfts with these celebrity endorsements is to normalize crypto so more people take their their their
actual dollars convert them to crypto so these fucking whales who are holding on to massive
amounts can finally liquidate their shit and get out yeah that's all they need but there's not
enough liquidity in the market for them to like well then figure out how we get more people to fucking get in here
i don't know sell a fucking wu-tang album as an nft fuck please and that's where we're at and and
that's why you see like the like you know there's like constant like there's so many nft podcasts
that i look they don't even exist anymore like they stopped publishing in may because some
people realize like oh man this is all bad and like even if i believed in it i literally have
nothing so what the fuck am i gonna say right now and be like yeah hey check out this new one
called whatever the background monkeys from the film congo where it's all based on some of the
background gorillas from congo it's really cool stuff. Michael Crichton's not involved, though.
I just wish Matt Damon had followed the advice of this A-list actor
who said, I really wish I'd listened a lot more before I weighed in on this.
And that's a quote from Matt Damon
when talking about his decision to weigh in on the Me Too movement
by being like, well, we got to figure out,
like, there's spectrums here, right? Like there's some people do sexual assault and some people are just, you know,
grabbing your butt on set. And like those are different things. And and then people were like,
hey, man, shut the fuck up. And he was like, oh, I really wish I had like done a little bit more
reading and listening before I weighed in on this one so maybe if he had only uh been able to
learn that piece of wisdom from himself before uh digging in on this crypto thing he might he
might have been in better shape the phrase he used was patting someone on the butt like he's a
football coach out there right right just run around said good job grips Good job camera guy If I want to run around
And give everyone a little pat on the rear
And tell them good hustle
Just a little hiney pat
Yeah
This is what happens when we
We're taking cues
From celebrities who have never
Had a moment of real introspection in their lives
And are just driven by like their career momentum.
Yeah.
And so you're going to hear wacky shit like that or like a fortune favors the broke.
I mean, the bold.
The yeah.
And it's also a good like this is why America operates the way it does.
Like Matt Damon didn't start out as a generationally wealthy person,
but once you become rich and famous,
all of a sudden, all the people,
you have the opportunity,
and it's probably the easier thing to do
for just everybody around you
to be somebody who is interested in making money off of you,
making money for you,
and also golfing with you at whatever fucking country club that you belong to,
you know?
So it's like,
he doesn't,
he's,
he's completely insulated.
Like for other than if he watches his movie,
Elysium and is like,
Oh yeah.
So like that is a metaphor for something.
It seems like.
Throwing eggs at them.
Right. You know, just because that's a metaphor for something. It seems like throwing eggs at them. Right.
You know, just because that's that's all you think about all the small like small time like retail investor type people who probably got totally duped into this with promises of like this is the new way to build generational wealth.
Because a lot of people are my age, you know, and young, like especially millennials.
Fuck, man. generational wealth because a lot of people are my my age you know and young like especially millennials fuck man like we we watched like a lot of opportunities for financial uh like for any kind of wealth building just fucking vanish into thin air so it makes sense that something
that comes on the heels of the 2008 crisis promising to be the new way to like not be
connected to all the fuckery of our other centralized financial
systems you know gets people thinking in this and feeling oh this is how i can do something for
myself only for it to be a fucking op right and turn you into a bag holder what's funny is that
matt damon should have been like the canary in the coal mine that this was no longer the sort of cool
internet thing that crypto was pretending to be for years and years before that
like dogecoin was a story before this happened right where dogecoin like went up by a hundred
fold in a six month period of time right and that was such a like yeah it's a dog and it means
nothing that's rad right but once matt david's the guy advertising it you should know there is
no more dogecoin you know like that's that that whole vibe is over right ultimately it's a game
of like being the first one there and
then tricking a bunch of other people to get into
giving you their money.
By the time Matt Damon is doing Super
Bowl commercials for it, it seems like that
ship might have sailed.
Yeah, cool. And for someone
who cares so much about the environment too, Matt
Damon, supposedly, you should know
how much of a fucking
drain. Yeah, he was in that
water project, right? He was doing that
water project for years and years, right?
It's a weird... Stealing water from
the neighboring ranch of Tom
Selleck? That one?
I love these pirate ranches. I drink your milkshake.
.org
He was in on that
water deal.
It's like that one from Chinatown. He was part of that water deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like that one from Chinatown.
He was part of that.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the real water project.
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Ganser, such a pleasure having you.
Great to be here.
Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff?
Yeah, you can follow and subscribe to our new and improved One-Upsmanship podcast on the iHeart Network.
It's me and Michael Swain.
We talk about video games.
If you are loving this podcast vibe,
you can go check out some other ones I host
called Director Peace Theater,
and I'll show you mine if you show me yours
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It's just patreon.com forward slash small beans.
My Twitter is at therealgans.
I usually am just trolling my friends on Twitter,
but if you'd like to see that, please
follow me and watch me do that.
And man, it was just great to be here. Thanks for
having me, guys. It was great to be here, man.
Great to have you here.
Is there a tweet or some other work
of social media you've been enjoying?
Absolutely. I wanted to briefly drop two quick
things. One is the
Instagram stories of
the real indian dad if you don't know who that is he's just like a guy who's married to an
influencer and he's just kind of a he's very funny in a very normal guy way and i it's just always
him pranking his wife and she's but not in a malicious way it's like just making her laugh
while she's doing her stuff which i really like and also like a more serious one i really enjoy the feed of elizabeth brunick who's on twitter
she's a journalist she writes for the atlantic she wrote a story recently that i have been
thinking a lot about called a culture that kills its children has no future it's in the atlantic
check that out she is always tweeting stuff that i think is really cool and profound. So give her a follow.
Miles, where can people find you?
What's the tweet you've been enjoying?
Find me on Twitter and Instagram at
MilesOfGrey. Also, check out a new
podcast that I helped produce
about the corruption at FIFA,
the governing body of
world football. It's called
Lords of Soccer, and it was
produced by an external team that we worked with here at iHeart, but it's a dopeords of soccer uh and it was produced by like a an external team that we
worked with here at iheart but it's a dope if you like true crime or sports or really understanding
how greed can absolutely upend things like the world cup like right now we should be having a
world cup but because of the corruption that fifa sold it to cutter and now it's happening in
november in the middle of everyone's domestic season.
And this is a great sort of entry point into the whole scandals there, like from the beginning.
So you kind of get this really full formed picture of FIFA and the greed over there.
So please, if you wouldn't mind checking that out, I would appreciate the support.
It's called Lords of Soccer, and it's on the iHeart Network.
And also, obviously, check out Mad Boosties.
Miles, check out Mad Boosties. Miles, check out Mad Boosties.
And 420 Day Fiance.
A tweet that I like.
First one is from Craig Calcaterra.
At Craig Calcaterra, he said,
It's things like this that keep me from even thinking about quitting this website.
And John Hinckley was released from prison and tweeted,
at John Hinckley 20 tweeted,
After 41 years, 2 months, months and 15 days freedom at last
then someone underneath replied john check out jersey mics you will not regret it
but like facts like please let them know let them know i just love somebody who was like yo bro you
gotta try jersey mics i know you just got out you won't love that shit then another one uh is from Let him know. I just love somebody who was like, yo, bro, you got to try Jersey Mike's.
I know you just got out.
You will love that shit.
Then another one is from at Stop It G tweeted two albums in eight months.
I know a degenerate gambler when I see one.
And that's a reference to Drake because apparently he's been losing a lot of money and he just dropped a surprise album on Friday night on people.
And then lastly, at Harley Baghdad tweeted me on the Internet.
The economy isn't even real.
It's all made up.
Me in real life.
I fucking love $20.
Yeah, I'm team $20, too.
I'm a big fan.
$20.
One of my favorite things to have. Let's see some tweets I've been enjoying. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Miles and Jack. I'm at Boosties, an NBA podcast. Wet Mayor tweeted, God gives his earliest bedtimes to his most tuckered out little guys.
And I think that's true.
Whoa, Bob Mackie tweeted, before he was Andy's toy, he was in Andy's favorite movie.
Oh, so late year is a fun high concept send up of 90s action blockbusters?
Absolutely not.
What gave you that idea?
Which expresses my issues with...
I'm not letting this shit go, you guys.
Lightyear doesn't make sense.
It would be awesome if they did that, though.
Like, that would be really good.
Yeah.
The MacGruber version of a 90s action film with Buzz Lightyear.
I'm into it.
And then on that same subject, Andrew Nadeau tweeted
they should make more movies about
the guys toys are
based on. I want to see what happened to
Furby to make him so fucked up.
Dark.
Requiem for a dream style
origin story of Furby
that would actually be pretty good
Aronofsky's Furby
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Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?
Just a good positive
song to kick off the Tuesday.
It's called You Can Be a Star.
No.
By Luther Davis. I don't know when this song's from the origins of it it just popped up on like a suggested playlist and it's like this
like really upbeat funky disco track uh which sounds maybe look there's so many artists now
who record on like old like tape and things and microphones that you couldn't tell if it was
recorded in the 70s or not i have a feeling this is probably like an older like this is from that time but it just
reminded it reminds me of like if desmond and lost in the hatch like if he was black he probably
would have been playing this record every day like to like wake up in his like weird dystopian
bunker pit uh but either way for your dystopian bunker pit you But either way, for your dystopian bunker pit,
you'll love this.
It's called
You Can Be a Star by Luther Davis.
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