The Daily Zeitgeist - Taylor Swift: Action Movie Writer, Trump’s Game Changing Defense 10.25.23

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

In episode 1570, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of The Bechdel Cast, Caitlin Durante, to discuss… Jenna Ellis Pleads Guilty in Fulton County, And Trump is doing JUSSSSTTT Fine, A ...Reason To Get You To Care About The Speakership... History? Women in Iceland – Including The Prime Minister – Just Went On Strike, Swiftie Conspiracy Theorists Think Taylor Swift Secretly Wrote A Spy Novel and more! Jenna Ellis Pleads Guilty in Fulton County Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis pleads guilty in Georgia case Women in Iceland – Including The Prime Minister – Just Went On Strike Swiftie Conspiracy Theorists Think Taylor Swift Secretly Wrote A Spy Novel Who or what is Argylle? The literary mystery behind Matthew Vaughn’s new film Register for Caitlin Durante's Screenwriting Workshop Classes here! LISTEN: N B C by Sol ChyldSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
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Starting point is 00:01:09 History is back. And this season we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita followed by the mojito from Cuba and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 310, Episode 3 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness, and it is Wednesday, October 25th, 2023. Mm-hmm. podcast where we take a deep dive into american shared consciousness and it is wednesday october
Starting point is 00:01:46 25th 2023 10 25 23 yeah it's uh this could be like lost numbers in the hedge or something oh 48 15 16 23 42 those are lost numbers um wait do you actually know those, Kayla? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 00:02:07 I was a big lost head at the time. Wait, what is it? 4, 8, 15, 16, 23,
Starting point is 00:02:12 42. Yeah, 17, 4, 8, 15, 16, Yeah,
Starting point is 00:02:14 you got it. Because it was just like a thing that you would, that, what's his face, would always be muttering like over and over and over. And you're like, you just learned the cadence. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:02:22 it's greasy foods day. And I can get down with that. International artists artist day i think we can get down with that and also chucking the chucky the killer doll day oh he's getting a jump on it a jump on halloween chucky's still like there's still a lot of chucky costumes out trick-or-treating and stuff yeah he's relevant iconic I guess I don't know I was never into Chucky though I feel like I feel like I see the resurgence of Chucky is really with the youth too the youth them yeah the youth them yeah I don't know I I liked his that that movie really I think it's like really fun in concept like a killer doll is really cool but then like the is the is there a great chucky movie caitlin a resident film expert thank you so much for
Starting point is 00:03:12 seeing me i think that the first one is like really scary and like the exact amount of hokey campiness that i want in a horror movie while also being genuinely pretty scary. Now, I haven't seen it since I was like eight. Maybe that's my problem. I watched that show when I was six. 1990, I remember, like right when it came out on tape. But I haven't. I was like, nah.
Starting point is 00:03:43 But maybe that's because it was too much for my six-year-old brain yeah i think you need to revisit yeah with an open mind i don't even know if i've seen any of the sequels because i know there's like bride of chucky and all that kind of stuff but i think the first one is pretty solid and you should revisit as an adult yeah i will all right yeah shout out to sean my third grade good very good best buddy whose parents had like the greatest vhs like self-taped at home uh library oh really that's where i saw die hard way too young that's where i saw child's play way too young wait so wait was die hard what was it ripped off of like they were just ripping from other videos must have like been taping it off of like hbo or something because it wasn't there weren't like commercial break got it they were like okay i wasn't sure if they had
Starting point is 00:04:34 their own pirate operation you know yeah that reminds me something that annoys me though the title of chucky is actually child's play and it's like why wouldn't you just call it chucky the same way that why is the movie that should be called rambo actually called first blood i know that like that gets a big jerk off hand motion from me first blood fuck out of here okay but a movie called rambo sign me up yeah yeah rambo ram. I mean, that's what we ended up calling him. Yeah. You know, colloquially a word I can't pronounce. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. This is the story of a guy who pissed his pants and blamed water ice.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And while he looks so sad talking coal gas, I absolutely love him when he smiles. That's Curse of Lacaroni appreciate it he said i've made a jack o'brien double lp right in reference to the time i peed my pants on a child's ride with my children and wet drum water anyways okay okay i swear't. It wasn't. I didn't just admit to that. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, a.k.a. Wake up. Now where can we put the kids who art up?
Starting point is 00:05:55 Where to advertise a local startup? Where to post this recipe from grandma? Pictures from our trip to Alabama? Not on the fridge. You want to. Now where can we put the new kids art up? Not on the fridge. Where to advertise a local Alabama, not on the fridge. You want to. Now where can we put the new kids art up? Not on the fridge. Where to advertise a local startup?
Starting point is 00:06:08 Not on the fridge. Not on the fridge. Where to post this RCP from grandma? Not on the fridge. I don't think you trust in my personal style guide. I cry when fridges are not magnetized. Shout out to Raczak for that chopstick system of a down. Resin.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah, just giving it to us. Drinking it. Because you know what? Keep the fucking frigerators magnetized. Wake up, people. Indeed. Don't make the decision for people. If they want to use it as a repository for construction paper and news clippings let that
Starting point is 00:06:45 happen okay yeah well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer stand-up comedian podcast host the bechdel cast yes which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time she also happens to have a master's degree in film no big deal happens to be one of one of our favorite guests on this podcast. No big deal. No big deal. Happens to have the most anagrammable name in the English language. It's Caitlin Durante!
Starting point is 00:07:12 Wow, thank you so much. What's up, Caitlin? I mean, it's just like the season, you know. It is 9-10 Dracula season. It is. What are you going as for Halloween? Oh, let me tell you. Nine-tenth Dracula.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I honestly should. But that'll have to be next year's costume because I don't think I could pull it off in time. But this year's costume, all-time low for laziness. time low for laziness okay i'm making a shirt which by that i just mean like i'm gonna find a old white t-shirt and then just write male ego on it and then i'm gonna take a bunch of like those like fragile stickers that you would put on like a box full of like glasses got him or like breakable things fragile male ego here wow i mean ite. Wow. I mean, it's good though. It's good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Thank you so much. I can't, and I'm inevitably like, I'm already going to apologize for the shitty dudes who are like, what does that mean? Let me just preemptively. I'm cool. That's cool because that's not me. That's why I'm funny.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I think that is funny too. That's hilarious. Right. Because any man who's like upset by that, it's like, I'm talking about you. Yeah. You're fragile. It's like one of those fly, like those like outdoor, like insect lamps that just brings them in and just gets sad.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. Like come to the light. Yep. Precisely. Accept the truth. Feel the warmth. That's so funny with just light. Yeah, precisely. Accept the truth. Feel the warmth. That's so funny with just dead eyes. No smile.
Starting point is 00:08:49 No trace of smile. You go. Does this resonate with you? No, no. Oh, was that me? What does resonate me? Never mind, sir. Go on your way.
Starting point is 00:09:01 All right, Caitlin, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Yet another Trump associate tried to shorten associate to a so and it doesn't it doesn't really work. Anyways, Jenna Ellis has pled guilty. The third guilty plea just this week. Fourth overall. So we're going to look into that. We're going to look into what that
Starting point is 00:09:25 means and then we're gonna check in with donald trump and see how he's doing spoiler back he's doing fine back to back sound bites that are breaking new ground bangers yeah i mean he's an artist he's always pushing pushing the envelope further miles Miles has a reason for me to care about the speakership. So I'm excited about that. Yeah. Historical precedents. I think that might resonate. That's me.
Starting point is 00:09:56 When someone talks about historical precedents. Don't care. Oh, that was you. I thought you were nodding off. I always am. a little bit. Wow. We're going to talk about women in Iceland going on strike, but perhaps an effective collective action
Starting point is 00:10:14 that maybe should not just be in Iceland. We'll talk about a Taylor Swift conspiracy theory. We'll talk about the Switch Witch, all of this, plenty more. But first, Caitlin Durante, theory we'll talk about the switch witch uh all of this plenty more but first caitlin dorante what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh i searched for how to fight a glioc i think is maybe how you pronounce it parentheses tears of the Kingdom. So I've been ruining my life recently with the newest Zelda game. And there are these three-headed dragon type things.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And I don't know how to do it. And? And I am not above cheating. And so I look everything up on the internet of how to do the things in the game because it's a really hard game. I honestly don't even remember what it said. The different Gleeox. Again, sorry if I'm not pronouncing this correctly. There's like they have like different elemental things.
Starting point is 00:11:20 So one of them is like the fire one. One is the electricity one. One is like the fire one. One is the electricity one. Right. One is like the ice one. So you have to like use other like contrasting elemental weapons and stuff like that to fight them. But I know that they frost kind of thing. Exactly. But they have a weak spot and I still don't know what it is because I'm too afraid to get close enough to them.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So. Yeah. Yeah. Do you do the thing because i when i play video games and i get stuck sometimes you will see an article that will tell you how to cheat that will not cheat how to defeat it or the youtube video where you can be like hold on how the fuck oh do that okay yeah it always clicks immediately sometimes i like to start with the text so it doesn't feel like I'm fully just like, oh, OK, OK, OK, OK.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So there's a bit of a challenge. But then I'm always frustrated when I see how easy it looks when someone else does it. And I'm like, do I fucking suck at everything? Is that what the fuck is going on? No, I think it's just people who probably have made a living at just playing video games and like posting content to like teach people how to do it right yeah you would be good at this oh that's how you make yeah it's like well that's your privilege so i'm actually yeah you would be good at this loser oh you're so good at video games oh you defeated the glioc in one go great good for you just tell me how to
Starting point is 00:12:41 fucking do it okay just tell me just shut the fuck it. Okay. Just tell me. Just shut the fuck up. What's the secret? Shoot them in the fucking eye, what? No, that's the other thing. That's the big troll guy. Anyway, sorry. Who's the big troll guy? There is like, I forget what those ones are called, but they're these like big guys who are bounding around and they have one eyeball and their weak spot is their eye. So you have to like shoot an arrow into their eye and then they fall over and then you like bash them with
Starting point is 00:13:08 your sword and stuff yeah just is this it sounds like not very artful then you just like kind of knock them over and just fucking stab them a hundred times with a goddamn sword right in fucking eye fucking right in their skull The battles are my least favorite. Yes, exactly. You're right, Miles. The battling is like my least favorite part of the game. I just want to go around and like forage for mushrooms. I want to go around and find all the outfits.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah. The last person to bring up the game said the exact same thing was like, love the other part, but also just love to fucking meander. It's a really meanderable game. Yeah. Highly meanderable. What is something you think is overrated? Because it's spooky movie season, I think Ari Aster as a filmmaker is a bit overrated.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Ooh, he's the Midsommar? Midsommar, Hereditary, and then the one that came out most recently, Beau is Afraid. Didn't see that one. I think that he, let me clarify, I think he is good at making a horror movie that makes me feel very scared and unsettled. Because I saw both Midsommar and Hereditary in theaters, and they were effective horror movies in that I felt miserable and scared the whole time. Yeah, it's not enough to just be scared.
Starting point is 00:14:41 You want to feel worse, Just like bad in general. Like you've got a flu or something. Full body aches. I have an emotional. I left hereditary with a migraine headache because I was just so tense and just feeling so awful. Hell yeah. But I don't think he's a good storyteller. I think he's a good directoreller I think he's a good director
Starting point is 00:15:06 and I think he gets good performances and I know I think he's like good at I guess maybe is he overrated I don't know I don't like his screenplays I think he's not a good storyteller I think they're kind of sloppy I think that he doesn't know
Starting point is 00:15:22 how to write women really at all like you know his treatment of mental health and mental illness is really not good. Anyway, it's really like I think there's a lot of filmmakers like that now who are they have all the power. And the thing they choose to do with that power is to just like be like, I'm going to do my own little stories. with that power is to just like be like i'm gonna do my own little stories and they would be like so much better off just you know finding finding other people's stories to tell yeah or like i don't know send your draft to someone and get some notes well he doesn't need them because i saw that thing martin scorsese is like the pacing from killers of the flower moon is like inspired by midsummer and he's like ari aster is the flower moon is like inspired by mid summer.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And he's like, Ari Aster is the fucking goat. And I'm like, I wonder what that means for this. Oh yeah. This guy's never gonna not make his own screenplays after this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:16 You're goodbye to any chance, but like Scorsese, Spielberg, Kubrick, like those people all made other people's screenplays like those yeah you know you can still be a good filmmaker and not just write bad screenplays and make your own like the two or however many scripts that Steven Spielberg wrote are like not very good he's a far better director than he is a screenwriter so what are his I actually didn't even know the oh let me look it up here i used
Starting point is 00:16:48 to know this but ai i think oh it was a collaboration with kubrick which also yeah like maybe yeah it's by spielberg and then the story by ian. Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Right. That's written and directed by Spielberg. Oh, and he wrote The Fablemans, which tracks because it's like pretty autobiographical. Autobiographical. Makes sense.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I didn't like that movie very much. And then Goonies is Chris Columbus based on a story by Spielberg. I will give him that one. Poltergeist. Pretty good. But that's also three people writing with a story by spielberg yeah i didn't realize until very recently that richard donner made goonies like directed goonies i always thought it was christopher columbus because he
Starting point is 00:17:36 wrote the screenplay richard donner like really was responsible for my entire childhood with like superman goonies and lethal weapon which i saw way too young i was like those are uh like my three favorite movies dog my favorite movies yeah those hit pretty pretty hard what uh what's something you think is underrated, Caitlin? I think that being transparent about why you do not want to go on another date with someone, whether that's like a second date or maybe you've had a few and you're like, I'm not feeling this. I think being transparent about that is something that most people do not do. They just say they kind of like make up some generic excuse or they and obviously like it's a
Starting point is 00:18:26 case-by-case thing but like i just sent a message to someone who i went on a date with it was like pretty good conversation but we had no kissing chemistry he was not a good kisser and so i kind of said that to him yeah because he's now gonna go if like if someone doesn't tell him right he's just gonna go through life being not good at kissing or not like tuning into someone else's like i don't know kissing energy what i got on my high school girlfriend who saved me who said do not keep your motherfucking eyes open. Close your eyes. I was like, cause for me,
Starting point is 00:19:06 I'm like, y'all can't believe this. I'm doing this shit. You're like a deer in headlights. But yeah, now that my high school girlfriend had to tell me to stop saying, wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Oh my God. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. No, but that is true. Yeah, get that i mean and you're not trying to be a mean spirited i think you're just being really honest about why it's like you know we're just actually when it came down to the kissing part i just felt like we're not we're kind of we're you know you're
Starting point is 00:19:38 playing jazz and i'm playing you know the deck of the titanic. You know what I mean? And that is exactly how I would describe how I kiss. The deck of the Titanic music. It's been an honor playing with you this evening. Just melancholy nobility. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:59 If you're listening and you have ever kissed me, and you can attest to that, please. A full, transparent embrace of death. They was kissing like we were on if you're listening and you have ever kissed me and you can attest to that full transparent embrace of death man he was kissing he was kissing like we were on the deck of the titanic um but no i like different other guys like at the end of a date one night he the guy was like do you wanna maybe do you want to do this again and i'd say honestly i don't think we're very compatible and you interrupted me a lot throughout the evening and that really turned me off and yeah he was like oh and he was like taken aback it's hard to hear criticism like that especially because
Starting point is 00:20:32 most people aren't so openly doling it out but right i'm like obsessed with like this transparency is like you know i'm trying to be constructive i'm never cruel about it but sure objectively people yeah you was interrupted you did that that did what do you mean i was interrupting like right wait let me cut you off right there how are you how are you even defining like interrupting yeah so i'm just trying to teach men how to be better one day at a time. I'm sure they appreciate that and your Halloween costume is no way inspired
Starting point is 00:21:10 by their responses to that honest and constructive feedback. What do you mean there's no kissing chemistry? I just like that it's like a New York cop. I've been told I'm the best kisser in town. Give me another go. Give me another go.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Let's try it. See, it's that. It's that. That's how you open every kiss. Called the tugboat. All right. Let's take a quick break, shall we? And come back and talk about some news.
Starting point is 00:21:40 We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session.
Starting point is 00:22:01 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
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Starting point is 00:22:46 Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. If you follow me on social media, you know I love to cook or at least try, especially alongside some of my favorite chefs and foodies like Benny Blanco, Jake Cohen, Lydie Hoyt, Alison Roman, and of course, Ina Garten and Martha Stewart. So I started a free newsletter called Good Taste that comes out every Thursday, and it's serving up recipes that will make your mouth water. Think a candied bacon Bloody Mary, tacos with cabbage slaw, curry cauliflower with almonds and mint, and cherry slab pie with vanilla ice cream to top it all off. I mean, yum, I'm getting
Starting point is 00:23:24 hungry. But if you're not sold yet, we also have kitchen tips like a foolproof way to grill the perfect burger and must-have products like the best cast iron skillet to feel like a chef in your own kitchen. All you need to do is sign up at katiecouric.com slash goodtaste. That's K-A-T-I-E-C-O-U-R-I-C.com slash good taste. I promise your taste buds will be happy you did. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I was a lady Rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?
Starting point is 00:24:28 I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 00:24:48 you get your podcasts. And we're back. Kalen, before we get into the news, I was asking you because I've been talking on the show about these Instagram activations, these like little sort of mini museum pop-up museums that happen all over the place. And one of the ones closest to my house that I have not yet taken my kid or my wife to is the Titanic exhibit. Are you, you are familiar with, with this? I am so exhibit. You are familiar with this exhibit?
Starting point is 00:25:27 I am so familiar. You had asked me if I had been to any of them, and I said, try. I have been to all of them. There's one in Vegas, which I've been to. There's a traveling one that came to LA, and I guess it's still here. I think it is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I went last year because, you know. It's been open for like years. It's crazy. I'm like, wait, what? How is this still? These things usually come and go pretty quickly, but. Right, because it's going to, there's going to be diminishing returns probably.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Titanic forever. Oh, it's the same plates they have too? Yeah. But yeah, you were asking me if it was any good. And it's mostly like things that might have been on the Titanic here's a plate that was on a different
Starting point is 00:26:11 ship that was made by the same company as Titanic here's a pair of pants that people were definitely wearing pants on the Titanic Cole you ever heard about this stuff? This is a mattress that they would have had in steerage.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah, so they're not that impressive, but I still enjoy going. Yeah, going. Nice. Yeah, so take your kids and family to go look at old plates and some pants. I gotta check it out. Easy.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Miles, Caitlin, we've gotta get caught up on these dang Trump trials. Okay. Am I right? I mean, we talked about this at the end of last week, right? When Sydney, the cracking lady, Powell. Yeah. And we're like, oh, and then we're like, damn, she got like $7,000 in fines and six months probation.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I'm like, must be nice to whatever the fuck's going on. Now we have Jenna Ellis, similar thing, about six months or five years of probation, $5,000 in restitution. And she will, you know, not have to answer for her part in this RICO case. And so at the time I was like, what the fuck? Like, are they really going to come with it? Because that's the only way you're going to be involved in like a, like a Rico case that was meant to overturn a fucking election and only get
Starting point is 00:27:35 six years proby. But we'll see. Everyone seems to think that now it's getting more intense, maybe because there's three people that worked on this effort who are basically saying hey yeah we're willing to just sing just please don't allow us to see the inside of a jail and this is the lawyer who was like all over cable news during the election basically being very confident oh yeah oh yeah she was stolen she loved getting in front of the camera and screaming lies to everybody. But she says now to the judge, she's like, if I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I just want to play her doing a really I just love when people deploy the tears to try and get out of trouble.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So she did give a tearful statement to the judge. And I just love the way she started off her statement. Just, well, listen now. As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously. And I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings. But not a good actor. Not a good actor, though. I don't know if she's crying.
Starting point is 00:28:47 All she's doing is speaking in a high-pitched, shaky voice while touching her eye every once in a while. They're weaponized white women tears. I've seen this a hundred times, and they are an effective tool in ducking and avoiding accountability. So I do not blame Jenna Ellis for just as a lawyer and a Christian. I'm just going to touch the corners of my eyes. But yeah, this also spells more trouble for Rudy Giuliani, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I'll believe it when I see Trump in an orange jumpsuit. But speaking of Trump now, this is three lawyers from the coup squad now copying plea deals. And many were curious to get a comment from donald trump on whether like or not he's worried about any of this he was asked in new hampshire two days ago whether or not he was you know like him constantly insisting that sydney powell who was part of the trump legal team uh he swears like she wasn't representing me they're like aren't you worried that like that may eliminate your attorney client privilege um And his answer completely changed the game. Listen to this. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Listen to this. Mr. President, you said Sidney Powell was watching your attorney. Are you concerned that you won't be covered by attorney client privilege? No, not at all. We did nothing wrong. We did nothing. This is all Biden indictments and impeachments. And this is all about Biden. you can't do anything right the only thing they know how to do is cheat on elections and election fraud that's you uh this is all by yourself all of these indictments that you see i was never indicted huh wait what i'm sorry you were what one more time for the people in the back
Starting point is 00:30:22 indictments that you see i was never indicted. Practically never heard the word. It wasn't a word that registered. Oh, because you're cognitive decline. What? I was never indicted. Wait, is that from Q? Is that like
Starting point is 00:30:39 Q shit where he's been reading QAnon theories that he was never indicted and all of this is a scam because like that doesn't even make sense. Like given the laws of like the physical universe, he has to know he was indicted. He's changed the game. Jack.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Well, he doesn't know he was indicted because he's never heard this word before. It wasn't a word that register. It didn't register. Indicted as you say doesn't even register oh sorry so that means there's something wrong with your brain and we need to get you to a hospital yeah you fucking hear that byron i was never indicted okay practically never heard the word except for the numerous times i've heard it and speaking of joe byron this is
Starting point is 00:31:22 another thing he said while he was in new hampshire he would beat Joe Biden's ass down in a fight. And I just this is another stage he's at where he's throwing air jabs talking here. This is the man himself. Remember when Biden? I'd like to take him to the back of the barn. I dream of that. You know what I do with him? Oh, I do. oh i didn't what oh he's uh i'd hit him right in that fake nose that fake nose did have plastic lying all over the floor but i don't want to i'm sorry what he doesn't know how plastic surgery works i see does he have did he have a rhino that's wow did you like that boxing
Starting point is 00:32:09 form i think he must be a southpaw because he had that right hand out front and real tight jab like oh oh oh like one of those rock'em sock'em robots good form good good thoughts all around. I'll punch him in the plastic nose. There'll be plastic everywhere. Yeah, he doesn't know what plastic surgery is, I guess. What I'm saying is, is that like an established thing? I've never heard this in my life.
Starting point is 00:32:37 That Biden had a nose job. I get he's got veneers and weird vinyl hair. Oh, and he i guess he's got like veneers and like weird vinyl hair but like that oh and he definitely he's had a lot of what's the stuff called where they like yeah the stuff buttocks he's he's been buttocksed within an inch of his life his face looks like like it's like being i don't know he his eyes are like being squeezed or something and i just love the plastic everywhere like he's fighting a fucking like a rock'em sock'em yeah like literally yeah based on his form yeah we're
Starting point is 00:33:15 both plastic and uh be made of plastic and kick his ass and um and then he also had this one other amazing moment where he kind of had one of those stoner realizations you have in high school. After you take your first big bong rip and you start seeing the matrix of the world. Here's him talking about a cool new slogan that he just came up with. This is on our businesses. Why are you doing that? He said, Macron, nice guy. You know, look, he's for France. I'm for us.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I'm for us. You know how you spell us, right? You spell us, U.S. I just picked that up. Has anyone ever thought of that? I just picked that up. A couple of days I'm reading and it said us. And I said, you know, if you think about it, us equals U.S. Isn't that? Now, if we say something genius, they'll never say it. Stand-up comedy?
Starting point is 00:34:21 I don't... He's always trying to do stand-up comedy, but... Yeah. That was like his school project that went well that he wanted to tell his parents about. You know what I just realized? Us. U.S. Us.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Huh. I like how he said, I'm reading. U.S. A. Country. I'm reading, and it said U.S. It said us. And I said, you know, you think about it.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Us equals us. The thing I just said was so genius, they'll never reprint it because it's so genius. Because I'm merely spelling a word. And he is the first one to make this observation. So we do have to give him credit for that that's true that's true that is true so yeah again still got it stressed at all yeah yeah he doesn't seem stressed no one thing i just want to touch on before we move on is i know the speakership thing has always been like i don't care what the fuck's going on with this what does it fucking matter i know i should care everybody like smart people care about this i'm having a
Starting point is 00:35:29 hard time caring though i don't necessarily care because i'm like oh no the the the progressive legislation that's been passed time and again by this congress will cease so from that from that from that perspective i'm like yeah sure Like minimally keep the government funded. But the bigger picture here is, you know, looking at this, Jack, with a little bit of historical precedence here. And I know you rolled your eyes so far into the back of your head. You almost did a backflip. I sprained my eyeballs when you said history.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I don't care, dude. I look at it right now about like how they are fighting right and they're like deadlocked and a lot of people have always said like oh the mega takeover is the end of the republican party like it's like as we know it but i think this like impasse they're at is closer to the kinds of like traditional like party collapses or intra party fighting that we've seen historically. You know, a few people have mentioned like the Whig Party and like in the lead up to the Civil War, how it fell apart because of the Kansas-Nebraska Act. And there was like the whole Bleeding Kansas thing. And basically it split the Whig Party between pro-slavery and those people who were like free soilers or like anti-slavery.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And that that made the party just poof. It went away. Everyone went their other routes. They went into other parties. I'm saying this has the potential to have the kind of like diminished power for a party and ends up helping another like the opposition party win, unfortunately, without having to do much because of like the infighting like it happened before with Teddy Roosevelt trying to like do a coup within the party or even like how the Vietnam War split Democrats and then a Republican wins the next election, Nixon. So like you because I'm looking at this from the perspective of there's like 24 ish people and the Republicans that are like, absolutely, we're not going to let the Jim Jordan wing
Starting point is 00:37:22 take over. And Jimordan and that side has like responded with like physical threats of violence to people and it's that kind of like fracturing that i'm like oh yeah this might be more closer to like the the party literally just like breaking apart on some level more than like the speakership but like what this says about like the health of the party so just right just an observation that interesting yeah so that and then they would break apart into some some new party that we've not yet heard of that hasn't been abandoned yeah or yeah or like some some republicans end up being like yeah you know the democrats are actually a center-right party so i'm a democrat
Starting point is 00:38:02 anyway right right like or there's some kind of other political realignment because again you have there's a voting block too that's like maga or nothing but then you also have these other republicans who are like nerds who are like what about like like legislating and you know most of the party's like no no no we don't have a policy agenda it's just to say no to whatever democrats do and that's it it. And so I don't know. I mean, like it's, it's like along those lines, I can see something potentially spelled, you know, like again, it's just going to weaken the party at best. It weakens the party at worst. Maybe you're going to see real fracturing, uh, or people just resigning, which is another thing that I'm
Starting point is 00:38:41 seeing. Like people are just going to get ousted. But the Republican Party is definitely, they're fucking up bad. And it's going through some terrible things. Obviously, I'm not the first one to make this observation. That U.S. equals us? Because that was Donald Trump. No. Just the, like, it's so wild that there are only two major parties in this country because the disparity between like people who are on the far left and centrists is enormous like the disparity
Starting point is 00:39:17 between people who are on the far right and centrists is like pretty big like it just doesn't make any sense that there's like this enormous vast spectrum and only two parties that represent it i i still cannot wrap my mind around it right i see it like you know the polling right now is really bad like with young voters like biden support just cratered over the last week because of everything that's happening in palestine yeah but like that's like where you like and this is the thing that many progressives have talked about it's like you know democrat whether it's democrats and progressives always saying like they're just gonna court you know people like that are further left than the like the center left party or you know the establishment
Starting point is 00:39:58 democrat party just court their votes and then just immediately immediately just do the opposite of what they said once they get power that you see like the potential for these things. Now, I don't know what how how that happened formally right now, but it's true. Like people are getting further and further from like their establishment, I'd say. But like obviously on the right, it's more because they're like, we need an ethno state. And then on the left, it's like, how about people don't go broke because they have cancer right like and that and that that's kind of our options but in the middle and with the republicans and democrats like we've said before you have two parties that are basically doing gonna advocate for the same thing right at the end so they join
Starting point is 00:40:40 up become like center party and then you have like small mega wing and small progressive wing is like one of the ways that it could go, I guess. I mean, I don't know. I mean, sure, like without looking at what the actual mechanics are, but you definitely see that there are these specific blocks of voters and increasingly progressives and leftists are like, man, I don't know what the fuck is going on with the Democrats because we're not seeing humane policy at every turn. We're just seeing a lot of we're just going to do a little take backs from things we promised. Yeah. Psych. Yeah. A series of psychs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:14 We'll do that. Psych. Psych. Thanks for your vote. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, a lot of like it makes sense that you're speaking historically because these are like historical,
Starting point is 00:41:25 historically unprecedented levels of incompetence and like not being able to get somebody elected. Right. Yeah. Like when you can't even like this, like you can't even have a consensus choice for speaker. Yeah. It ain't working.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah. And like, I think right viewed in the context of like day to day cable news, it's like, ah, those, these jokers in Washington can't get it together once again. What else is new? But and all I do is watch CNN and Fox News. That's just mainline in that shit. But yeah, from a more historical perspective, it's like, oh, they they don't like having it. They're not a functioning political party anymore. Yeah. Maybe at a certain point it just falls apart. Like, yeah. And I think the other the other side of that coin, too, is America is not even close to being the same as these other, you know, these other examples. So who knows if this is even uncharted territory in the sense of like and it didn't collapse and it fully, you know, brought together all of the fascists together under one party. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And that's where we're at. But again, yeah, the intraparty fighting, like, I mean, like just, I was just reading about the people who are getting death threats.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Like in one of the meetings, another Republican Congress person was defending the fact that people were getting death threats for not voting for Jim Jordan. They're like, well, they're getting death threats because they didn't vote for Jim Jordan. Yeah. And like, if they knew what was death threats because they didn't vote for Jim Jordan. Yeah. And like, if they knew what was good for them,
Starting point is 00:42:47 they would vote for him. Like, wait, that was a death threat that you just said. Yeah, I don't know. But maybe that's, but it sounds like if you vote for Jim Jordan, you wouldn't get death threats because I voted for Jim Jordan.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I didn't get a death threat. Okay, so that's interesting. That makes two of us us i don't know and you did huh yeah yeah i mean it's does feel like more and more we're becoming aware that like they are doing the bidding of like not the people who are supposed to be voting for them i don't know if it's i don't know if that's more and more the case or if we're just like becoming more and more aware of it, that they're just kind of these zombie institutions doing the bidding of corporations and profit. Certainly, like younger voters don't have the same like rose tinted glasses of like making a ton of money in the 80s that like colors the way they look at like our government, you know, our government. They're like, man, it's all been fucked up
Starting point is 00:43:45 the whole time. And so it's funny when you see these octogenarians in power, they're like, what the hell? What's wrong with these young kids? They're smarter. They're more informed than I was when I was fucking 18. That's the fucking difference. Yeah, and there's not a single person in
Starting point is 00:44:01 Congress. They're so far away from having anything in place that like honors that that truth you know that that is like you know reflective of the fact that all this is bullshit that i yeah i don't know like we probably are headed for like unprecedented things and the breakup of political parties and stuff so i'll give it a snooze minus i'll stop still all right bored by the whole thing but uh maybe you know hey 20 years it won't even matter because we'll all just be like mad maxing our way through water life the water wars yeah Yeah. Waterworld though. I prefer Waterworld than
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Starting point is 00:47:57 Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And women in Iceland, including the prime minister, have gone on strike they went on strike on tuesday tens of thousands of women uh this is part of the and i'm definitely gonna nail the pronunciation of this go ahead fenoffrey sure why not yeah or women's day off to protest the ongoing gender pay gap and gender-based violence it's pronounced glioc actually oh okay good and this is what you're in the
Starting point is 00:48:46 fucking eye that's right that's what cut to like the people in the icelandic like parliament on this day and they're like how do we fucking beat this i hear you have to shoot it in the eye listen to this podcast yeah but this has been going on for a long time. I think they're saying this is the biggest one since 1975 when 90% of Iceland's female population went on strike. And there have been a number since then. I think there's been seven of these nationwide strikes over the past 50 years. This is supposed to be the biggest one in 50 years but i don't know like the people are pointing out that iceland has been ranked the best country in
Starting point is 00:49:34 the world for women by the world economic forum 14 years in a row and you know the prime minister is like but we still have a lot of work to do And it's just it would seem to me to be like worth noting that a nation that is engaging in this like massive direct action collective protest and has been for 50 years has also been the best country in the world for women by the World Economic Forum 14 years in a row. Like that feels like the sort of thing that you would remark on and like would be everybody would know about if it weren't so counterproductive to profitability, you know? They're like, hold on. Yeah. Half the workforce is going to take a day off and they want to be paid more oh no no we can't have that we can't yeah yeah i mean it also just goes to show that the country where it seems like quality of life for women is like better than most places in the world and they're still not happy and they're still like survivors of gender-based violence and you know pay gap issues and so it's
Starting point is 00:50:48 which makes me i'm like oh god can we in the u.s and so many other countries like get together and do the same thing yeah because the best country in the world for this is still like there's still inequality and disparity so imagine where we are oh you want to know oh yeah you know where the u.s is on that list like how are we doing 100 like gotta be two oh come on no the top three are all scandinavian countries what iceland norway finland new zealand obviously not new zealand then sweden uS. all the way down at number 43. Come on. Out of 146. So at least we're in the top half, top 50%.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Top 50%. Wow. Yeah. Out of what, 100 countries? 146. There's more than that. 146 that they analyzed. Number 40.
Starting point is 00:51:40 We're 43. We're 43. Yeah, we're just, Colombia just has the edge on us and belarus wow embarrassing for wow and liberia us or the u.s which is it is it both wow i just thought about that that's crazy yeah same same i'm my own fucking mind up here folks've been it's wild it's wild yeah this this does feel like i don't know it should be there should be a movement to make this a international thing because i think it would be helpful for people to have this reminder that you know the how the importance like the power of women that they can bring everything to a halt and i think
Starting point is 00:52:28 like having that tool in the arsenal like is probably a big reason why they're towards towards the front of progress you know how do you even organize something like that though like i imagine it's easier to do in iceland but like i can't even imagine that working in the u.s in terms of like just getting people organized and on board and actually doing it yeah right right well i think when you have like good social safety nets it's easy for a person to be like you know what i'm gonna take the fucking day off right but our system that's the problem with good social safety nets folks yeah that encourages people to think for themselves and shit rather than be caught in the endless loop of toil in order to yeah so yeah that's the other thing that i really think of yeah we're we are not we're we are basically set up in the most hostile way for workers or people who have to work to, like, take up for themselves.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Thanks, Nick Gavin Newsom, for vetoing that bill that would have gave striking workers unemployment benefits. But it's all good. It's all good. We're running for president. We get it. We get it. Evidence that collective action works, you know, not not and not saying that like what they're protesting, like the fact that they're still protesting is, you know, not serious because they're at the front of the, you know, but they we I think the fact that they are leaders in this, people should be taking that as a reason to try and organize something similar. And that is a reason to try and organize something similar, like closer to home. And yeah, because it's not just like work, like going into your paid work. It's like, if you're doing duties within your home,
Starting point is 00:54:12 like tools down, like this is meant to resonate at every fucking way. How, yeah. How much we depend on, you know, the labor of these people. I'm not even going to flush my toilet when I go on strike.
Starting point is 00:54:25 No, I'm kidding. Yeah, I've been on strike for fucking 30 years, man. Still, shit ain't changing. Literally. You guys ready for Taylor Swift's conspiracy theory? Is it a good one?
Starting point is 00:54:41 No, it's not a good one. I'll just tell you up front. I honestly, it's not a good one. I just love to tell you. I honestly I'm it's taking over my brain because the repetition from the media of like microanalyzing every single thing about her life. It's like gotten to me now. I'm like her and Travis held hands again leaving Arrowhead Stadium. That was a fucking headline on Sunday. Right? Yeah, they're dating. What the fuck are we?
Starting point is 00:55:04 What is this like a high school newspaper they held they held hands after the football game and they left in his dad's convertible people are just truly i don't know everything she does i i did watch one of her reactions to a touchdown or a near touchdown and i was like man still still have not seen a false move from her she's just always exactly perfect and it's like did she practice that 1000 times just how to react in that moment yeah right yeah in the mirror like different ways like yes or when like okay too aggressive how about when like oh travis yeah let's fucking go that was like another one that everyone did lfg dude but i i think it's just that she has been watched like
Starting point is 00:55:54 since she was 12 years old so she like doesn't she's just constantly camera aware at all times and yeah it's like a new yeah terribly lonely. A higher level of human, of camera-aware celebrity human. But anyways, she's also writing spy novels, according to fans. So this is... Sure.
Starting point is 00:56:16 This one's pretty dumb. So back in 2021, the guy who made the Kingsman movies, Matthew Vaughn, claimed that his new movie was based on a yet-to-be-published spy novel, Argyle, by an unknown author named
Starting point is 00:56:29 Ellie Conway. The trailer for the movie is out. It stars Henry Cavill as a Bond-type super spy, Bryce Dallas Howard as Ellie Conway, the author who created him. Did you see the trailer?
Starting point is 00:56:45 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It actually looks kind of, I'm not going to lie, I was like, all right, let's see. And I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah. It reminds me of like Romancing the Stone or what was that newer movie that came out with Sandra Bullock? I thought that was Romancing the Stone, but yeah, I was like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:03 So like rom-com meta one right where she's a rom-com writer and then gets lost city the lost city lost city she's not it's not a rom-com writer she's like an adventure writer and right which is the same premise as the uh romancing the stone which is kathleen turner from the 80s yeah yes but anyways, like the whole thing, the book, he's like, I got my hands on this book. It's the best adventure spy novel I've ever read. I'm going to make a movie out of it. The novel has never come out and nobody can find Ellie Conway as like an actual living human being. And people are like, oh, this is just like a spot like
Starting point is 00:57:48 a way it's he he wrote a screenplay essentially is what it seems like right and then yeah started doing like some guerrilla marketing but it yeah so it seems like she doesn't exist and the book is like some sort of tie-in gimmick and pretty pretty straightforward but now like online taylor swift conspiracy theorists are speculating the book was secretly written by taylor swift and that ali conway is her pen name and what leads them to believe this all right the evidence is pretty strong but evidence is kind of basically impossible to argue with. OK. Irrefutable. She's written songs under pseudonyms.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Ah, that's it. All right. Fine. We're done here. Not under the pseudonym Ellie Conway, by the way, but just under pseudonyms. Doesn't matter. That proves it. Ellie Conway's profile picture is a coffee cup, which you might notice the coffee cup seen in Midnight's. Okay. Also a coffee cup. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:49 The spoon is even pointing toward the midnight direction of a clock. So it would be like 12 o'clock. Okay. Ellie Conway in the trailer, played by Bryce Dallas Howard, has a cat backpack similar to Taylor Swift's and owns the same breed of cat that Taylor Swift does. Okay. Also that Matthew Vaughn does.
Starting point is 00:59:13 What if? Jack, stay on task here. Matthew Vaughn is Taylor Swift. Oh, shit. Ever think about that? Matthew Vaughn is Taylor Swift. Okay, that's called Christ consciousness Matthew Vaughn is Taylor Swift. Okay, that's called Christ consciousness.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Vaughn is Swift. And then, like, so up to this point, I was like, guys, this seems a little shaky. But then, nail in the coffin, Taylor Swift has worn Argyle sweaters. Well, there it is. See, Jack has used a pseudonym, has a cat, and has worn Argos sweaters. Clearly, she's writing spy novels in between being an already fucking one of the busiest human beings, I think, on the planet right now. But yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Did you notice that during some of the Chiefs games, like, she wasn't on camera? And, like, where was she? Probably writing a spy novel would be my guess. Yeah. I like this. When you look at what the plot of the movie is, it, it seems very much in line with what the director and writer of the Kingsman movies would write and not necessarily in line with what taylor swift would write
Starting point is 01:00:27 if you had to guess the type of movie that taylor swift would write would it involve like people who are like sick with weapons and like just do awesome shooting stuff to one another yes it would be it would be a lot of gunplay in the taylor swift movie obviously that's i mean but this to the point that uh you know we've we've talked about a lot about stan culture replacing like religion this does feel very like like uber christian type shit where you're like no that wasn't that touchdown wasn't that player that was god actually yeah you know i mean this script i know that you're saying matthew vaughn wrote it it is That wasn't that touchdown. Wasn't that player. That was God. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. You know what I mean? This script.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I know that you're saying Matthew Vaughn wrote it. It is actually God. Taylor Swift. That's right. Every all things are possible through her. That's right. Yeah. But again, hey, I love the dedication.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Love the dedication. She's Ron Howard's daughter, right? Right. Yes. Yes. And if you believe my conspiracy theory, so is Taylor Swift. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yeah. Yeah. She's actually Clint Howard's daughter. That would be amazing. I do wonder if there is some genius marketing firm out there that is just like threading this conspiracy theory, seeding this conspiracy theory, because they is just like threading this conspiracy theory seeding this conspiracy theory so that because they're just like if you just say taylor swift secretly involved in this project
Starting point is 01:01:55 it's going to get it so many headlines so much attention butts in seats yes so yeah it's it's a propaganda tactic yeah you know it's like we should be. So, yeah, it's it's a propaganda tactic. Yeah. You know, it's like we should be using it. Well, yeah, you create associations, right? To get people to be like, what? This thing is associated with. Therefore, now I'm on board with that.
Starting point is 01:02:15 So therefore, yeah. Genius. Genius. Miles has been Taylor Swift this whole time. Her Majesty. You thought that Her Majesty was... Stop, Jack. Now you're crossing the line. You said you respected my relationship
Starting point is 01:02:31 with Taylor, man. I'm just saying. Don't put them on the... Regal for many reasons. I'm just saying. A true queen. Oh my God. Well, Caitlin Durante, what a pleasure having you on the show.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can mostly I'm on Instagram these days and that's even barely the case, but you can follow me at Caitlin Durante. But the main thing I really want to plug is I have some screenwriting workshops and classes coming up. I have two today. Sorry, that's confusing. I teach a screenwriting workshop that is over the course of two days, so like a Saturday and a Sunday, two hours each. And I have two of those coming up, one in mid-November, one in mid-December, and that you'll learn like screenwriting basics. And then I have an intro to screenwriting class that'll start in the new year, early January. And yeah, so I just have a bunch of screenwriting things that I will be teaching. And you can go to my website, CaitlinDurante.com slash classes for like the registration links and more details. And I know you legally said you weren't allowed to comment on whether Taylor Swift has taken your courses or not. But I'll just leave it there.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I'll just leave it there. I'll just leave it. Yeah. You can't comment on whether she did that in preparation for writing the screenplay for Argyle. But I'll do a little wink and then. Yeah. Then you'll kind of know. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I did just do a little wink. It was like a very little wink. But oh my God. Confirmed. Confirmed. Confirmed. Confirmed. I think we can confirm it you guys.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Just don't ask her lawyers. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes. I love and would recommend the movie Dicks the Musical in theaters now. I had a blast. I thought it was so funny. You love your sewer boys? Sewer boys.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Oh my gosh. Those little sewer boys. Just burden that meat. I saw it and people walked out. Yes, it is the type of movie that some people would walk out of, but they're incorrect. Yeah, and I choked them out. Every person I walked out, I said, oh, you're a tough guy, huh? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:05:01 You just stand behind the door. Yeah. Where are you going? Where are you going? Oh, you don't like the themes? Too extreme for you? And if you want a little teaser for kind of what the type of movie it is, I would recommend listening to the Megan Thee Stallion song, Out Alpha The Alpha, which happens in the movie, and it's so great.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Man, it's a wild movie. It's wild. Dicks the musical. It went from a UCB show to a full-on feature film with Megan Mullally. Oh, really? Yeah. Nathan Lane. Nathan Lane.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Megan Thee Stallion. It's wild. It's wild. Like, when you watch it, you will not believe that this is a movie that has been made like it's it's it's so against everything that you think like movies i don't know it's like in a very great subversive way yeah amazing bowen yang also wow literally plays god plays literal god okay i've seen the trailer for this year yeah miles where can people find you what's work media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:06:06 You can find me on Twitter and Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Also, find us on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jacob, Matt Boosty. The NBA season has finally begun. Tis upon us. Don't know what happened in that. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:18 So, let's just pretend it was a victory for everybody involved. And also, find me on 420 Day Fiance. And also The Good Thief, the true crime podcast talking about the Greek Robin Hood. It's only eight episodes. So please check that out. A tweet I like is from at Brooke Perrin tweeted, The vet called my seven-year-old dog a senior today, which is impossible because she's just a baby.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Like she and I discuss it often about how she's just a tiny little baby which i fucking think of that shit all the time why that it's jarring to think of your gray-haired dog who is basically a senior no no this is a baby this is a baby. This is a baby. Tis but a wee lass. I'm just a baby. Yeah. Tweet I've been enjoying. Noah Garfinkel tweeted, the only experience I've ever had reading a haiku is counting syllables in my head and then thinking, they're right, it's a haiku. And that is the only way I can encounter a haiku
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Starting point is 01:07:41 in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy Miles is there a song that you think people might enjoy yeah i think uh some people are gonna like this track it's by an artist called soul child but spelled s-o-l-c-h-y-l-d yeah yeah somebody's been in the lab uh she's from new jersey an m MC, and again, I love her rapping style. It's very reminiscent of the golden era of hip-hop, especially from the New York, New Jersey area. So check this track out. It's called
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