The Daily Zeitgeist - Texas Florida STUNT OFF, Cabin Fever Capitalism 4.19.22

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

In episode 1229, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of Air Buds and Sorry We Love Football, Jamel Johnson to discuss… Greg Abbott’s Racist Political Theater, Florida reject...s 54 math books because some had Critical Race Theory in them?, Do We Have National Cabin Fever? ...and more! Greg Abbott’s Racist Political Theater Delays, closures and chaos mount at Texas-Mexico border crossings from new state inspections Texas Gov. Greg Abbott's truck inspection policy created a logjam at the border that resulted in $240 million of spoiled produce Florida rejects 54 math books because some had Critical Race Theory in them? Do We Have National Cabin Fever? The Literature of Cabin Fever followthrough.studio LISTEN: Figurine by Wayne SnowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Today's production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is, of course, Tuesday, April 19th, 2022, 420 Eve. 420 Eve, baby. A.K.A. National Garlic Day. Why is it National Garlic Day? I don't't know it's just one of the days 419 is national garlic day i'm not mad that's like two fucking things in a row that i love weed and garlic like what's next pizza on the 21st all right garlic i'm trying to figure out a way to talk about garlic.
Starting point is 00:02:45 That is anything. But yeah, that's that stuff's pretty good. Well, do you think. OK, at one time, I remember. Miles, you know what? I got to take on this. It makes your breath stinky. There you go. What's up? Mix that with cotton mouth. If you hit a blunt and then eat a clove of garlic, that's weaponized gas. Yeah. Wait, but this is funny when you talk about garlic. I probably have told this to Annika before because I don't have anything that I haven't shared on the podcast anymore as a human being. I've been doing this for so long.
Starting point is 00:03:12 But I remember mentally checking out of a date years ago because this person was like, they didn't want to go to a restaurant because they didn't like garlic. They're like, oh, Italian food has a lot of garlic in it, huh? And I'm like, what? I'm like, I mean, there's stuff that isn't like yeah i don't like garlic and i was in my mind i was i had completely just left the building because that said to me a lot of bad stuff and maybe isn't that one of the things that like people with celiac can't eat maybe they just had celiac no no no she was not i mean it wasn't even i that was my first thing i was like oh is it like uh because i know some people their stomachs can't handle it or whatever
Starting point is 00:03:49 it's like too raw the acidity and she's like no no it's the it's the flavor i think she was just letting you know she wanted to do some kissing later on i don't think that was what that was probably that wasn't the way to my heart by saying you don't like the fucking flavor of garlic. Then I'm like, your mouth is fucked up. At one point, we had some garlicky vegetables I was trying to get our kids to eat. And I told them that garlic keeps vampires away. And then that lie, I will say, okay, there I said it.
Starting point is 00:04:23 It's not true, I don't think. But that has blossomed into me being like oh yeah and carrots they keep the mummy away and it's just like expanded out into like you're bob odenkirk you're bob odenkirk and i think you should leave now now you're gonna say you got doubles of broccoli and shit yeah exactly br of Brussels sprouts because it keeps the mummies away or whatever. Yeah. Now, like when we're out, if we're eating something, they ask me what monster the food that I'm trying to get them to eat keeps away. And I just have to hang my head in shame. You never, I feel like other places, other parents lean into the fucking superpowers that a thing gives you.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah. We're probably a year past the superpowers because yeah after my kid ate like all his vegetables and then jumped out of a second story window but like they're they're they're smart enough that they're they're like the jig is up on that right like they they know they can't fly after they eat a bunch of brussels sprouts you just say but i would always be like eat your carrots because it helps your eyes so you don't have to wear glasses or like it helps your eyesight long time yeah but that didn't work on me because i didn't like the flavor yeah no i mean because they're into superheroes so they want
Starting point is 00:05:39 they want like tangible you know they ask for a spreadsheet they asked for a powerpoint to explain that shit so with monsters though the good news is you're you're rarely gonna get called on that shit because like i haven't run into a dracula in years right in los angeles that tracks have you done the that optical illusion where you can make it look like you're levitating for your kids no i haven't yo have me over it. And I'll be like, Jack, I'm so weak, man. I think I need vegetables or something. And then like you give me like some cauliflower and I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I'm like, stand back, kids. And I do the levitation shit. Do the levitation. Two inches off the ground. Yeah. All right. We'll do it. Because that would work.
Starting point is 00:06:22 They still fall for the look what I found in your ear thing. Oh, if they're falling for that, I don't want to give them nightmares and shit. They're like, go keep that demon motherfucker awake. What's flying through the house? All right. Well, hey, we haven't even introduced ourselves. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Obi-Wan, a.k.a. Pachinko opening credits fanboy. That shit is dope.
Starting point is 00:06:43 If anybody's watching that show, those opening credits may be my favorite thing I've seen on TV in a long time. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Someone may have spoken, spoken. Someone may have spoken, spoken. Someone may have spoken. We're going, yeah. Someone may have spoken pizza today. Oh, my God. That's obviously to the tune of Yeremy by Peril Jam.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And that's by Andrew Bubb on the Discord. Now, what was happening there? Because you were yarling like Eddie Vedder, I couldn't quite make out the lyrics. Someone made spoken. Spokane, Washington. Okay. Someone made spoken. Okay, got it.
Starting point is 00:07:34 All right. Yeah. I'm with you. Yeah. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very hilarious, very patient comedian and podcast host. Just had to sit through all that shit. You know him from his podcast Air Buds. Sorry, we love football.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Sneak this and just all of his great work with follow through studios. It's Jamel Johnson. Hey, what's up? What's up, guys? I was talking with that intro you never know some shows they don't want you to talk yeah you know that laugh was good there's some time yeah i had a little something i guessed it recently on another show and i looked down the whole time they were doing the opener because like right in my mind i was like backstage or some shit right it was it's the shit that these weird zoom habits i have now i was in a room with these people too Because, like, in my mind, I was, like, backstage or some shit. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:08:27 It's the shit that these weird Zoom habits I have now. I was in a room with these people, too. So I just wasn't used to it. So I was like this. The whole time they did their opening, then I was like, hey, what's up, everybody? Yeah. You're just telling God to speak through you, you know? Please.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yeah, exactly. Prayers up. And also, who does that with the hat and they like come i feel like i'm picturing like michael jackson coming like up from the ground with his head down i mean everybody does the low brim i mean that that might have just been a very dramatic intro like you were just frozen like ready to i'm ready to let him know to be honest i may be copying jay-z because hope did that so hopefully you won't have to go through that. You wouldn't have to. But yeah, Jamel, are you living in L.A.? Are you wearing an Ohio State hat?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yes, I'm wearing an Ohio State hat for the troops. Okay. R.I.P. Haskins, you know what I'm saying? But I didn't go there. Is that the Ohio State University or just another Ohio State University? The. The. The.
Starting point is 00:09:23 The. Ohio State University. I just always like to make sure. But I'm from Virginia. You know, D.C. Burbs. I say D.C. at the same time. Right. But Woodbridge, Virginia, for those who really want to know.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Okay, okay, okay. And how are you liking L.A.? How long have you been out here? It's cool. I've been out here, like, coming up on seven years. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:43 So you're almost from L.A.? from la yeah yeah exactly i i know how the traffic works i was very excited to uh that basketball was over in la for the first time yo i'm like i'm thinking about riding a bicycle on the 110 like in san andreas because there's no shit happening over there anymore yeah there's finally some space yeah yeah oh that's a good challenge that's amazing yeah all right do you have a nba team i am a fan of the washington wizards okay stay tuned for our third consecutive ninth pick in the draft. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:28 That ninth spot, though. I feel like there's been some good players in there. Dirk, was Dirk nine? Dirk was somewhere around there, low lottery. And, you know, Rui's good. I like our guy Rui. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Obviously, shouts to my Black and East people out there.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Come on now. That's like the first non-Laker jersey I bought. I was like, well, if they're one of their Black and East, like, I got two. I've Come on now. That's like the first like non-Laker jersey I bought. I was like, well, if they're one, they're black and these like I got to. I've got to. I've got to. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:10:53 First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about later on in the episode. We're going to be talking about Greg Abbott's racist political theater. We're going to be talking about Florida rejecting 54 math books because some had critical race theory in them. Math books. That's 41% of the books submitted for review. So we don't have details on what they saw in there. Nah, nah, you don't need them. You don't need them.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Just trust them on this. Just trust us, man. They were doing some critical race shit in that math book. We're going to talk about the concept of cabin fever, whether we have it as a nation. So all of that, plenty more. But first, Jamel, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? My search history, kind of boring lately. I searched Adidas yesterday okay just just
Starting point is 00:11:48 the words just the word adidas what's up with them yeah just seeing what they was up to uh easter suits yeah i was looking at these suits looking at up the tan obama yeah i think mostly what i'm searching is clothes the weirdest thing i searched is Gino Green Global shirt. Do you remember these shirts from the late 90s, early 2000s? All the rappers wore them. They were very oversized, and there was a bunch of number nines. It was shirts with like every rapper in New York. Papoose had like DJ Klay Slay.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Right. Oh, rest in peace. Oh, yeah. R.I.P. K Clay Slay. Right. Oh, rest in peace. Oh, yeah. RIP K Slay. Exactly. They had like an exclusive Geno Green global gear. Yes. And I was in Seattle and I saw a 5X red leather Geno Green jacket.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Wow. And I didn't get it, but it's probably still on the wall at the crossroads. You could open for Pat Loose. In Capitol Hill. Go get you one, yeah. Yeah, rocking that outfit. Oh, my God. Did you ever get to the bottom?
Starting point is 00:12:50 First of all, were you searching this because you have three consecutive nine picks and you were doing some meme work in the content mines? I'm wearing official gear for the Wizards. No, exactly. I was trying to figure it out. It actually was why I was searching it. My little brother was like my little brother was talking about he put up a tweet about our draft odds and i was like here's here's us when we get the ninth pick again and it's a picture of pat poos and tj k
Starting point is 00:13:15 oh man i miss these fashions i'll put some south bowl jeans on and you're back you're gonna hop in the time machine put fubu platinum oh my god with the fucking fat albert graphics come on come i thought they were back i thought fubu was all the way back when they dropped the fucking fat albert graphics yeah i mean that because and look they were chasing that iceberg wave because i remember at the time iceberg was for people that fucking money, you know, because like an iceberg Mickey Mouse button up was so much money. Then the FUBU Platinum came in like, hey, we can do we can do lovable cartoon characters, too, at a lower price point. I introduced FUBU Platinum. Damn, I had a I had a fake iceberg sweater with Speedy Gonzalez on it.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I mean, who didn't have the fake iceberg back? I think like that was club. that was like mandatory club attire like you weren't you weren't doing shit if you didn't have iceberg on at the club that's very true and the the number nine was was that so i'm just i i gotta get i was not what was what wait did you go to i mean when you're going to when you're in georgetown what did you guys go to, I mean, when you're going to, when you're in Georgetown, what did you guys go out? Did you, what was like your going out clothing back then?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Oh man. Button up. Yeah. Maybe a button up here and there. Little button up, little quarter zip with the joint underneath. Very baggy pants, but like often like khakis.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Just, I dressed like shit, man. Completely and totally dressed like shit man completely and totally dressed like shit was just like not socially functional yeah i was i was a mess right like one of those four years the kind of guy who didn't have pants that could go with nice shoes so like y'all put your fucked up baggy pants over like dress shoes and you're like fuck man this outfit baggy pants with like the back of the cuff like kind of torn up because yeah oh jack i know the animal all right i was gonna ask what the number nine was for but i think it was just because it looked like a lowercase g i think so
Starting point is 00:15:20 yeah i think it's just lowercase g's there we go what is something you think is overrated? I'm going to say ranch dressing on wings. Oh, yeah. Is that because you are adhering to blue cheese? I am. I'm a blue cheese truther. Me too. Be an adult.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Put some cheese on them wings. Yeah. But a lot of places with their ranch be off a lot of ranches are watery now i know i don't think ranch needs to be abolished i think ranch at the top of its game is some of the finest dipping sauce you can dip but just based on the numbers a lot of times ranch is whack as hell and people are always like give me extra ranch please yum yum yum right move on from that it's time to because you know a lot of times you regret that extra ranch yes and treating it like the default is a is a food yeah like being like oh you you you don't want ranch you want you want blue cheese instead
Starting point is 00:16:25 it's like come on yeah yeah man this is the other thing people need to look out for speaking of shitty ranch when you go out to eat and you ask for ranch taste that shit before you just put it on your food because like to your point jamel half the time the ranch out here is like cut with just nothing and it has no taste. It's watery. And I don't even think I'm even getting the flavor of ranch. Like people just used to be like, where's my white goo with green flex in it to dip my shit in? And some of these restaurants are having a fucking laugh, as they say in the UK, because you eat the shit and the taste is thin.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It's not the same. And like sometimes I go to places and the only time I can discern between the blue cheese and the ranch is because one has chunks in it. But then even then, if I just go liquid taste, I'm like, this ain't fucking right. This is cut, man. They got bacon soda in this, man.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Bacon soda! I got bacon soda! You stepped on this. OT Genesis is in the kitchen right now. Exactly. While we're here, shout out to Denny's who does make their own ranch in-house. All right. So that's another issue that I've seen is when they brag about making their own ranch in-house. I got like a restaurant that I like around here.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Had pizza with a ranch dipping sauce for the for the crust which i tend to enjoy and the ranch was fucked it was like real dill heavy like they just didn't they didn't have the mix right and i've i like i couldn't even really define what was wrong and like i i got through like a crust and a half before i was like this fuck this is so bad yeah and you know oh sorry to hear that man i ate it at home i did i wasn't like sitting in the restaurant saying that loudly but yeah i was just like oh right this is this tastes bad but i because they're saying it's homemade ranch i was excited for it and had a little momentum going in it was it's not good like the homemade yeah the homemade like you know can go really well danny's isn't gonna
Starting point is 00:18:32 fuck it up i can tell you that for sure yeah but sometimes i don't know hidden like i've never had a ketchup that is as good as heinz like i just feel like Heinz has that, and everybody else is, like, doing imitations of that. Like, if I hear that there's a homemade ketchup at a restaurant, or a kitchen-made ketchup, I'm not excited about that. Ranch is somewhere in the middle for me. Bring it from the factory. Bring it from the factory. Just take me to the Hidden Valley. What's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:19:06 The starting shooting guard for the Milwaukee Bucks, Chris Middleton. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, for years and years and years, everybody was up Chris Middleton's ass. Oh, are the Bucks going to trade him? Does Giannis need somebody better to play with? And then they fucking won a title. And Chris was amazing.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So good. Now, this year, they're like, oh, the Bucs. Do they even have a shot? The Bucs won game one. And everybody's like, is Chris Middleton, is he OK? It's like, guys, just because he's not hot does not mean he's not the best. Because Middleton is amazing. And I praise the man at every chance I get. Yeah, and I feel like there's always that narrative.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It's like, is the postseason Middleton going to show up? Which version do we get? And when he does show up, which he does pretty consistently now, you're like, right, there he is. That's not a question like well you know what what version is it gonna be this time it's like no there's a foundation there's like a there's like a floor with his skill set and that's where he's operating from yeah his name isn't helping him chris middleton with a k with a k too yeah why the kh you know yeah because isn't he kh i think it is yeah that i'm like are like i mean i'm look
Starting point is 00:20:27 i don't give a fuck i'm but i would like to just you know for my own podcast or mine i want to be creative i want to know let's go further back the genesis of the name was there yeah it was there jesus christ with a k like that i'm just saying like i don't that there's nothing that uh offends me about his name. I feel like he's never... If he was the greatest player of all time, the NBA would have a problem. They'd be like, all right, we need to come up with a new name
Starting point is 00:20:54 because Chris Middleton just... Something like Chris Dahl. There you go. But yeah, I mean, for non-NBA fans, I feel like it's underrated to go look at shooters when they get hot. Because a lot of the highlights you see are people dunking and just doing wild athletic shit. But the touch that's required when Chris Middleton is locked in, some of the hardest shots he's hit, like fadeaway three-, like turnaround shit.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Like that is that's what NBA players are better at than anybody else. Like, right. There's great athletes in every sport. But like the the touch is supernatural. Like their ability to hit those shots consistently is pretty crazy. And then to do it again and again, it's it's damn near impossible to hit three shots in a row alone in the gym. For me, yeah. Yeah. He's wild and truly one of the players where once he gets going,
Starting point is 00:21:58 you know it's going in the second it leaves his hand. Yeah. Yeah, which is also fun. Wait, so who are you? How about the body? how are you feeling about the playoffs who you like in what you like in or what do you or even if you know you like somebody how do you think it on what's your pragmatic mind even say okay so i got money on sons for sixers okay but i think i i i think that the Sixers will fuck up somewhere along the way. They could easily lose to the Bucs, or they could easily blow the second round to whoever they end up.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yeah, exactly. Some shit like that. They could blow this round, too. I feel like people took that first game as, like, well, this series is over. Right. I was going to ask you. Not for the Sixers. Not for the is over. Right. I was going to ask you. Not for the Sixers.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Not for the Sixers. The Sixers are going to Sixer. Yeah, yeah. But they looked good in the first game. The playoffs are in full swing for non-NBA fans. It was a fun weekend. Oh, very fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Not for only two and a half months left for all you non-N NBA fans with significant others. Right. We're almost we're almost home. Right. I know some people like there's a play in game. Just trust me, I'm not making shit up like I did last year when I made up different games. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about some news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews
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Starting point is 00:27:14 It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And yeah, let's talk Greg Abbott. It's been a while since we checked in with him and his race to be the shittiest governor in America. It's he and Ron DeSantis, right? Yeah. Constantly trading blows.
Starting point is 00:27:48 You know, first you think DeSantis is up, and then Greg Abbott hits you with that no look, and you're like, what the fuck? How did he do it again? Okay, I guess he's in the lead now. So, like you said, he's running for office. He's trying to stay in office again. He's going up against Beto O'Rourke right now,
Starting point is 00:28:04 and I believe he's leading O'Rourke in the polls. And he's got to make sure he's hitting all the right notes to activate the base, you know, primarily doing everything he can to make a fucking scene. And, you know, do the thing that most politicians in the United States like to do, which is treat human beings like actual detritus that needs to be hauled off to the dump. And last week week very controversial policies coming out of the state of texas as it relates to immigration so the biden administration they rescinded title 42 which was preventing asylum seekers from getting an immediate hearing due to covid and once that was rescinded abbott opportunistically like most conservatives are like this guy look look what he's done he's basically opened the border up and they're just going to fucking walk in with anything, whatever they want. They're going to cut the tags off all our mattresses you're going to see is going to be fucking chaos.
Starting point is 00:29:03 of basically making it seem like there was a total crisis again, or at least to people who only watch Fox News. And to protect his state, Abbott did this thing where he's like, you know what, since Joe Biden thinks these people need to get in the U.S. so quickly, I'm going to put them on a bus to D.C. and drop them off there because they're D.C.'s problem now. And this, again, he said so Biden can, quote, immediately address the needs of the people that they are allowing to come across our border. And this is what the people wanted.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Was that did he consult with the people? Well, here's the thing. He made it again. He tried to make it seem like, oh, I can just do this because I'm not letting this happen in Texas. Some people want to like want to immigrate here, put them on a bus, get them out of Texas. That's not in his purview as governor. Right. Immigration is enforced at the
Starting point is 00:29:45 federal level so what he did was find people who volunteered for a free trip to dc basically got it which i'm sure i don't know if some people are like you know that's actually i got family in dc yeah that's closer to where i'll be part of the stunt fuck it like you saved me something but again this is he he's made it all look like, look what I did. I got the riffraff out, dropped him off on Biden's doorstep because these aren't people who are trying to live a better life. They're just, you know, greedy because of most Americans who are, you know, just so against immigration, typically look at through the lens of like their own experience, which is, well, I already have anything. So for me to leave would mean I'm leaving because I want something more than I got or should get rather than looking at these are people who are merely trying to survive. It's not an inherently greedy act that they're looking out for themselves. They're being literally chased out of their places with people with guns by people
Starting point is 00:30:39 with guns. So you take that with the other shit he's pulling and only recently stopped which was he wanted to then make the the border crossing into texas even like more fucked up by adding another like layer of truck inspections people already say the border patrol like they already this is it's a it's a very the system works there's no need to add another layer of holding shit up. But yet he did that. And this basically caused the gridlock to the point where the head of agriculture, like in the state of Texas, was saying, like, this is really fucking stupid. This isn't going to stop illegal immigration. In fact, it's only going to fuck things up. And it did. Food was rotting in trucks because it was taking some people as much as 30 hours to get through when it wasn't that much ever. It was like 30 minutes at most.
Starting point is 00:31:26 The head of agriculture in Texas, if I know Texas, is probably some socialist leftist. So that's probably where that attack has come from. Republicans is birth, baby. And he's even out because I'm sure because this this is the funny thing. This whole decision. Right. They've pointed the Fresh Produce Association of the Americas were like, because of all this shit that was rotting at the border, there was about $240 million in losses because of shit that expired because of this stupid fucking stunt Greg Abbott was trying to pull. And now they're saying, and now, so prices are going to go up because the supply chain issues are only exacerbated by that. And they think, you know, it's going to take at least a couple of weeks for it to kind of work itself out again.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So with this one decision, Abbott created the optics that Biden was ushering in, like drugs and weapons at the border, then made himself look like he was solving a problem. And then the congestion that he created was fucking up the supply chain so bad he can now just blame high prices on Biden. Right. Like it's like a fucking trifecta, basically. And, you know, for those of his constituents who are hearing what he has to say, they're like, that makes sense. We had to do all that. Yeah. There's a lot of a lot of high prices going on with the thanks a lot Brandon stickers going up on the gas pumps.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah. People have to improvise their own, too. Right. I saw some posts on the Internet where people were just like using Sharpies on gas things. And they're like, you didn't you couldn't get the sticker? Like, nah, just writing thanks Biden on the gas pump. biden on the gas pump partially they're right in the sense that like he's not gonna do shit to corporations to make them like rein in the the prices because of who he is and who the democratic party is but right it just feels like that and their solution is uh donald trump or ron desantis
Starting point is 00:33:19 which that's i think that's the beauty of those like conservative troll moves or the like thanks joe biden where like he could explain like why it's not his fault. But then he has to kind of give up the ghost on capitalism. So like what you're going to do, like coherently explain what all the market forces are and that you're beholden to as president. Doubt it. So just shut up and then, you know, bear it rather than him coming out being like, you know what? Actually, it's time to fucking tax the fuck out these gas and oil companies that's that's actually the solution here but it's we're not there yet biden should bring back thanks obama yeah one more time right just keep passing the buck i would do yeah just like yeah thank me thank
Starting point is 00:34:00 that fool dude i didn't do it i don't know he's like, yeah, what year are you in, man? Do you even know history? It's Obama, not me. It always has been. Yeah, since at least the 50s. Right. Oh, my gosh. Jen Psaki comes out, the press secretary.
Starting point is 00:34:19 What do you have to say to consumers with the rising prices? Honestly, they need to be looking at Barack Obama. That's what I have to say. This is all obama we knew this though hate to do it hate to do it but yeah isn't the firm she's going to work for sake isn't it like also involved in i i or maybe maybe it was a thing that she also like had consulted for before but they're involved in like some union busting on on some of the amazon union busting shit oh yeah there there is a firm that yeah on one hand is like helping like labor like unions and the other consults low-key with companies on how to bust
Starting point is 00:34:56 unions i think was it that was it that group it was like that's what that's it it's like uh the dude from catch me if you can you know he's, all right, I know the unions better than anyone. I'll show you how to fuck them up. I just remember reading her statement on the Amazon unionization victory, and it just read like it was coming through the most clenched of teeth. Like, we're really happy for them. And it just did not feel very celebratory. most clenched of teeth were really happy for them and it was just did not feel very celebratory
Starting point is 00:35:28 like it's so good to see collective action working for the benefit of workers across the country alright let's talk about Florida Texas and Florida, you know, it's a red state off between the two. And the state of Florida has just rejected a slate of new math books because they're making white kids feel bad, I guess.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I don't even know. This is the most confounding headline I read. So they say that the rejected books, quote, make up a record 41 percent of the 132 books submitted for review by the Florida Department of Education. So of those 54, 28 rejected because they, quote, incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including critical race theory. including critical race theory. They go on to like define kind of like what the problematic things were with some of these books that 41% of the submitted textbooks were impermissible because of prohibited topics, such as critical race theory, inclusions of common core,
Starting point is 00:36:36 which is like more of nationalized standard of education that Florida was like, we don't want anything to do with something standardized. And they also like unsolicited edition of social emotional learning in mathematics i'm okay this these must be really interesting new new age textbooks and then yeah they go on to just sort of break down all these different things of like what materials are rejected 71 of k through 5 materials were rejected 20 20% of sixth through eighth grade materials were rejected. 35% of high school
Starting point is 00:37:07 materials were rejected. At the end of it, Ron DeSantis is talking about saying, it seems that some publishers attempted to slap a coat of paint on an old house built on the foundation of common core and indoctrinating concepts like race essentialism, especially
Starting point is 00:37:24 bizarrely for elementary school kids. I'm grateful that Commissioner blah, blah, blah. So, again, I have not been in a classroom studying math like that in years now, but I don't, everything was always like, yo, this motherfucker is, you know, has
Starting point is 00:37:40 eight apples and, you know, they're trying to sell it for this much. Those are the kinds of examples. Are they now having kids, like, balanced police department budgets and then say like where the excess can go caleb has 10 black friends dealing with depression how many therapists are available on wednesday exactly like really breaking down things like generational trauma is said to last for centuries. If this person was born in this year, I don't know. Again, I don't even know how they're useful or how they fucking work. How many children will they have to have and forced to play basketball? For their own dreams to feel like they've been fulfilled please write that down but this is just
Starting point is 00:38:27 kind of continuation of uh they're just now even being like math books are fucking off like this is this is now suspected uh contraband because a math book and again like we're saying we don't we can't even see the fucking examples. Right. That's because it does. It does like throw in critical race theory with Common Core, which could be a very dry, like bureaucratic, like, you know, pushback. Social emotional learning is like at the basis of it being right or you know be taking people's feelings into account for sure yeah we can't have empathetic human beings right in this country yeah when do end up fucking pulling up for each other no fuck that
Starting point is 00:39:18 man the alternatives they're facing so often are like between these two stories are stunts that get media attention while also like hurting the people that they're supposed to be as a servant like this is a like this sounds like a fucking bureaucratic nightmare to like be this far along have these books printed up and then reject 41 of them and then like you got like food rotting in trucks and shit like that's that's not good for anyone but it's like how they get headlines is learning the lessons of the trump administration which is just like being very bad at your job in a way that will piss off people who are paying attention but will seem like you're owning the libs like right to the people who get all their news from facebook forward i'm curious like how many you know
Starting point is 00:40:11 agribusiness people are like this fucking guy just completely fucked my whole month up uh with this kind of shit i guess i'll support him anyway because i don't like it i don't like progress so fuck it i guess it's you gotta take the good with the bad but i'm curious like with florida because isn't texas like the state that basically runs the board for fucking all textbooks like because of their outsized like the amount of textbooks yeah like is this going to start the thing where like some of these books came from texas and they're like we're not putting no fucking crt in our math books how fucking dare you and now they're at odds with each other it's just a very i'm not saying a lot of people are going to get hurt on the i think the
Starting point is 00:40:49 theory on the texas thing is that like they because they make such big purchasing decisions it's like thinking about like you know any sort of business there's these people who are making textbooks and they are getting approved by this like one board at the state level. And so, you know, you like the way that a Hollywood studio is going to be like, well, we don't want to piss off China with our like Marvel movie. Our gay Dumbledore. Right. Exactly. The textbook makers are that way with big states like texas and i'm also assuming florida like florida is a massive state with a massive population so yeah i think it holds like across the like they're going to be heavily influential and it's almost like capitalism
Starting point is 00:41:40 doesn't work if uh you have like these systems where it's just like, well, whatever the biggest market says, like that's that's who we have to please. Right. Or else we're going to like go have all these books that we have to trash and like reprint. Yeah, just it sounds sounds bad. They just start being like Donald Trump only needs five electoral college votes to win the presidency and then just like that's how they're gonna realign like the textbooks to just reinforce that kind of shit and they'll i don't know yeah yeah we'll see what the future is i mean like it's it's it's just it's wild to even look at now in 2022 they're even vilifying math books like if they can well that's how they get you it's about time we was done with math as a country anyway right let's just stop pretending remove math yeah i feel
Starting point is 00:42:36 like and that's like it kind of feels like a very american cultural thing to be like i saw a tweet that blew up yesterday it's like hi i'm 30 something years old and i'm proud to say i still have not used algebra like that there's always like this hostility to math i think like in the country already though you know what i mean so yeah maybe you might you might be onto something it's on the way yo we're good we're gonna be done with math like fuck like i mean the fucking i mean we know how to use a calculator that's all you fucking need i feel like that's the most math american people like to engage with which is like why do i need to know this if i can put this mental thing onto my device or whatever you never know when you're gonna be out in the woods you know your devices are gonna be out of
Starting point is 00:43:22 batteries and you're gonna have to do long division to save your life doing remainders on some bark yeah i feel like that is like everything i needed to know about like adult life you you learned from like your teachers not letting you use calculators on math tests like it's like well i had to do it this way and it's like oh so we'll we'll never get student loan debt forgiven, will we? Well, you know. No, Jack, just wait for the polls. Wait for the polls to drop low enough. And, you know, Big Daddy Biden's going to smoke bomb that fucking student debt shit to try and, you know, salvage his own ass.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I feel like that's the only time we're going to see shit like this. What percentage do you think he's waiting for? You think he's like high 20s? And then he's going to be like, oh, I mean, because what? It's been pushed to August. And that's given you three months, a couple months before the election. I don't know. Because I think, you know, the thing they're always contending against is like the memory of American voters.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Where it's like you could have done shit like literally like three months before the election. People are like, I don't know. Was it? Who was president president i don't fucking know or you could like do that good thing and then like use that to create momentum to do more good things instead of just everybody thinking you're an idiot we have to stop talking about good things because good things to us means completely dismantling capitalism right you know so they can't do too many good things because they're like what do you mean like you broke people like a piece no fuck that i'm just talking about if we're talking about
Starting point is 00:44:50 electoral politics i'm just talking about things that would make him incredibly popular right but that's the thing i mean like that's what we always see right even like we talk about student debt there's this recent article talking about how he had you know his advisors research what he was capable of doing through by executive order to real to for student debt relief he got the answer in early april of 2021 and has not told people like has not been forthcoming with what the findings were of that and that's everyone's like telling it's cute when he does it right it's just he's just being yeah but meanwhile you're just causing untold amounts of stress because you're playing a fucking game to the old oldest man in a shitty
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Starting point is 00:50:11 like trafficker or some shit. But I do think that there's gotta be something to like kids not seeing faces for a healthy chunk of their development mixed in with the isolation of lockdown periods like it has to have an impact right like in the same way that like the movies and tv i watched as a kid have an impact like that shit has to have an impact like that's just shit they're taking in i mean it yeah i think developmental experts have said like you're not if kids aren't seeing the full range of emotions because they only see like half a face that can that's not optimal. I don't know exactly what the full like what the fallout exactly is.
Starting point is 00:50:55 But no, I mean, I I've heard that before. too like some of the shit they had to put up with with like being in dorms and then like the lockdown protocols on college campuses and that being enforced by you know often very shitty institutions like that don't have your best interest in in mind i don't know it feel it feels like not a great situation mentally. And I don't know. I, I hear it raised like everywhere from the, you know, Will Smith slapping Chris rock to coverage of sports to yeah. Just like everywhere.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Well, Will Smith was losing his mind before COVID. So I think we, I think, you know, we can mark that at about 2018. it is feel it does no there is that i mean i've experienced it myself the first thing i did one of the first public things i did out of like lockdown i got reprimanded by the staples center to security staff because i was
Starting point is 00:52:00 didn't know how to stop yelling top of my lungs harassing players and I did I definitely every time I've done like I just saw a movie I went to the movie theater over the weekend okay did you see everything everywhere all at once? yeah you know I did oh it was fucking amazing
Starting point is 00:52:18 but like even there when I find myself doing these things there's this like weird energy that comes me, like an excitement or something. I feel like a kid, whatever it is. And I don't know if it's excitement. I don't know if it's cabin fever. But my body knows, like, oh, you're doing that old shit again. Like, you're out there.
Starting point is 00:52:36 You're doing some, like, we're doing some 2019 type stuff. And I do feel that there is, I know there's some kind of energy swirling in the back. I don't know what it is, I know there's some kind of energy swirling in the back. I don't know what it is though. Yeah. There's this like, there's an article in NCBI or the NIH.gov where they like kind of went through a handful of different things on this subject and they come out and say like, it's not a medic, it's not a medically defined condition it's a folk syndrome right commonly understood to refer to a bunch of different you know symptoms like anxiety irritability moodiness boredom the thing about like it feeling like you're a kid because like you're just
Starting point is 00:53:16 coming coming in fresh like that that seems to like i i had i've witnessed things on like an airplane for instance a woman sitting next to me who yeah just seemed like all of a sudden very like childlike and like chatty and but also like was like i don't know just it was like everything that went through her mind was coming out of her mouth to like everyone to and it was it was very close to becoming a situation where like I was going to witness somebody firsthand, get like taped to their seat, which, which seems to be a trend that they're just like,
Starting point is 00:53:52 yeah, this is just how we deal with this now. Right. And it would have been funnier, but you know, it's, it's scary, man.
Starting point is 00:54:00 You know, your kids are right there. It's seeing somebody like almost get into a fistfight with somebody who thought they thinks like i think looked wrong at them or some shit and it's yeah it's wild but anyways this nih article i don't know it like pulls some things together just like that we're seeing like a rise in loneliness and anxiety and depression and self-harm and suicide attempts but but that shit like much like will smith like that that shit was already like going going in that direction right
Starting point is 00:54:31 these aren't 2020 problems right yeah like so i don't know i think i think something they're not really pulling in at least in this survey maybe it like comes out in the individual articles that they're referring to that i did not pay for but we are already in a period of profound loneliness due to the fact that like all of our social networks like social groups like the things that used to define you know human interaction have been like infiltrated by social media and like branding and marketing like that. Right. That has poisoned the well to a large degree that I think we're only slowly like kind of coming to terms with. It feels like, yeah, like the same kind of stories where like you're saying, is this really like I get that the pandemic's exacerbating things.
Starting point is 00:55:29 But are we like is what are we focusing on a like one segment of a larger thing? You know, yeah, I would say we are like the most recent chunk of a bigger problem, which is like all of these like societal ills people are experiencing. problem which is like all these like societal ills people are experiencing constantly the then nih article has like the you know technocrat like kind of positive spin where it's like fortunately we know that there are several potential antidotes to cabin fever but it's like accessing outdoor space you know social connectedness working as a crew setting goals and purpose for each day, like some pretty standard things that like you hear in mental health literature. But the idea that like social connectedness and accessing outdoor space are like two of the keys to defeating this. And we live in the United States of America where like that is almost like prohibited.
Starting point is 00:56:29 where like that is almost like prohibited like it's just so our cities have been built in concrete to not have like great outdoor spaces they've been built with stroads and and now we have this capitalist technocrat world where they there isn't social connectedness like in the way that I think humans were meant to have it and it's already like fucking us up. Man we all should have came out of lockdown wearing fedoras like if everybody did it. Right. It would have been so much easier to make friends again you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:56:58 like oh where'd you get your fedora at? Oh I got mine over at you know Hatland or whatever you feel like. Right. No judgment. No judgment. Yeah. They're like oh that's fedora oh i got mine over at you know hat land or whatever you feel right no judgment no judgment yeah they're like oh that's a good fedora too before we're like you'd see a fedora and like this fedora wearing motherfucker but now you're like oh a fellow human yeah if biden had shipped us one fedora hat with 15 mask, 15 COVID tests inside. One fedora.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah, it's funny. So often I find myself during this, when I'm trying to come up with solutions to help the version of society we find ourselves in, I'm like, oh, that's authoritarianism. However, authoritarianism to make everybody wear fedoras like i feel like that you know that's not gonna fuck your life i can get behind that see what i'm saying right shift the focus right low stakes authoritarianism yeah yeah exactly i look then that's how it starts cut to us or like uh and then the three have decided we must give our blood every thursday and we're like yes it started off as just give everybody fedoras as a goof and now we're eating your fucking brain thank you next thing you know yeah this i mean i it's it is
Starting point is 00:58:21 wild that yeah like you're saying the solutions to something that feels so broad like increased loneliness and isolation or whatever and people are feeling more anxious and like you're saying it really there's just being like hey man get off the fucking phone and computer and tv go fucking talk to somebody go outside experience what it's like to walk by a stranger and they're not trying to stab you okay right so you can begin to give yourself new data to say i don't live in a fucking terrible place where like everything is after me all the time i mean on some levels sure but in that in that broad like well everything i see on the news says it's all fucked up. Like, go out there, experience the world. And that's really what I'm all I'm seeing from here is the antidote to all of this is connect again without the help of technology.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Because that's the thing. That's the part that's atrophying rapidly, like in all people. Or it could be. So the author of this NIH survey also offers, they said, one example of creative upstream campaign to support young people's mental health is launched in February this year and is called What's Up With Everyone? I led this project with the Academy Award winning filmmaker behind Wallace and Gromit and Shaun the Sheep, a very talented person, alongside diverse academic, clinical and charitable partners aimed at 17 to 24 year olds but also accessible to a younger age range it comprises five animated stories dealing with life challenges that young people told us they found tricky just now right so like i you know look for the helpers support the helpers i appreciate them helping this feels you know a little inadequate to what we're talking about and also
Starting point is 01:00:06 you know any like community funded projects that are like government funded projects like the i don't know the heart's in the right place you know the heart's in the right place that's what's important but i think we're we're missing like when we're trying to investigate like how we talk more you know 17 to 24 i never shared a single fucking thing i was actually feeling with anybody right look at that age 17 to 24 because like i feel like the evolution of getting in touch with your emotions is like some shit happens to you when you're a kid or whatever you have your traumas that if you're like get into substance use that ends up like being the fucking fuel tank that powers you through your 20s and you're like no man as long as i keep like getting fucked up like i think i might burn some of this trauma off
Starting point is 01:00:54 and then you don't you wear shitty khakis destroyed in the back exactly and then way too long for way too long finally go to therapy exactly you get then you reach that age where it's no longer cute to be partying all the time and then you really have to start asking in your friend group you're like yo i think they got a problem right but but in your mid-20s that shit didn't look like a problem it looked like a good time and then with a little bit of self-awareness some help by your 30ss, if you're lucky, you're like, hey, man, you good? Right. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah. And like, also, like, it's not weird for me to ask you that. Like, and it's not being like, yo, why are you fucking asking me that? Like that we're all at a place of emotional maturity where I can just merely ask you just to check in and you can respond without any fear of judgment. But we spent decades avoiding that process along the way. Also, if you carefully select your friend group carefully enough they won't ever bring that shit up so you might need to check in with a loved one but yeah no that's that's definitely it's definitely true there's also a new yorker article that's like from one of their writers who has like dealt with cabin fever and
Starting point is 01:02:05 just writes about like just the wild shit that they found themselves doing like making prank phone calls to his friend in new york like at two in the morning and like not realizing it was weird until like you know 10 years later and they're like oh wow i was really struggling with cabin fever but one of the you know like i feel like a new yorker article written in you know a lively literate style or literary style is probably better suited to like diagnosing folk maladies than maybe this like nih like medical survey but the one thing that I thought was interesting was that like the version like the very uniquely American version of like Christianity and Jesus like where Jesus like walks with me and talks with me and is like you know your own personal Jesus, to quote a song, was invented at camp meetings by frontier
Starting point is 01:03:07 sufferers of cabin fever. And like, I find that interesting because like that, that feels like how things actually evolve, like how we deal with trauma is not that we as a society diagnose it and then like move uniformly in a direction of a cure. And instead we create our own cultural and, you know, spiritual remedies that are often bizarre, maybe embarrassing coping mechanisms, but they become useful and then get digested and then echo down over generations. And he also points to like many characters and like thinkers from literature like, you know, Henry David Thoreau, who Americans really, really feel was basically like cabin fever was like his writing style or his like writing process was like giving himself cabin fever and then writing, writing down all the thoughts that occurred,
Starting point is 01:04:11 occurred to them. Well, our folk maladies now are fucking terrible. So yes, when QAnon echoes into the next century, right. And that was coming at a time when people were so confused as to what was happening around them that they
Starting point is 01:04:28 fled to 4chan. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Okay. Alright, well, I guess we'll see that when the annual gathering in Dallas in Dealey Plaza to await the return of JFK happens and everyone's
Starting point is 01:04:44 being like, and then this is when donald trump will become president like he died 70 years ago grandma who knows we'll see yeah who who does know really i'm just excited to see what happens with porno next yeah yeah that's kind of just where i'm focused on the future yeah no really i mean i feel like the next the next big thing is that they have to actually like legalize sex work to allow like the free flow of like capital you know so everything's not like well visa or mastercard doesn't want to handle that but they'll surely wash your other ill-gotten gains uh through their financial businesses but anyway yeah enough yeah i mean uh sports gambling you know of course those are gonna come first because
Starting point is 01:05:32 they don't involve like puritanical like right prohibitions on sex which obviously is like the most american of impulses but eventually you, you know, capitalism is going to swallow everything. So that'll probably get swept in there too. And also as people become more and more lonely and can only interact with other people via like algorithms that are driven by like marketing firms, then, you know, that might also be how people find partners. And, you know, that might also be how people find partners. That convergence would actually be that we're dealing with all this data we've gathered on every single human being who uses the Internet. And you couple that with sports betting and then people will take like someone's data that they have and then bet if they die alone or not.
Starting point is 01:06:25 And like that's our new's our new Vegas sports book. Did you see the new book? It's like, yo, I think 223708 is going to have one kid, then get divorced, then remarry to someone from their high school based on what I'm seeing here. I'm like, man, are you going to do a parlay on that? It's like, yeah, if I hit three, man, that's $14 million, and I can get to Elysium. Oh, you mean the entire industry of insurance adjustment?
Starting point is 01:06:44 Yeah, exactly. That's where we're, we're just like, fuck it, man, make it a game, because nothing fucking matters, and maybe now people will bet on this shit. That's what it feels like. You know what I mean? Like, where, as you say that, and everything becomes more perverse, like,
Starting point is 01:06:59 you know, I say things like ingest, and then, like, I kind of sit with it, and I'm like, well, what's stopping any of that from really happening? That's why we got to jump on these billion dollar ideas, you know? Exactly. Come to my thing called Sad Kings, where you bet on people in real bad ways and you look at their demographic information and predict their life outcome. Sad Kings is fire. Sad Kings is great.
Starting point is 01:07:26 We need that t-shirt, Sad Kings. fire. Sad Kings is great. We need that t-shirt. Sad Kings. The king from the card already looks pretty sad. I guess you just have to make a few minor adjustments. This one's simping.
Starting point is 01:07:40 This king is down bad. Instead of having the sword behind his head he's just got his hand on the back of his head he's just like yeah yeah because he was about to ask like somebody for their number but bailed on it because he's just so awkward because he's too invested in the digital social media environment anyway sad kings check it out. T-shirts coming soon. That on people's lives. Well, Jamel, it's been such a pleasure having you on TDZ. Where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah, you can follow me on Instagram. It's at Broccoli House. Non-profit comic on Twitter. And yeah, Air Buds Pod is the basketball show. Sorry We Love Football is the football show. Yeah, more to come. And follow through Dot Studio for any sneaker-related goofs and gags.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Do you have a team that, like, you most want to see? I feel like we kind of already asked that, but is there really? Yeah, I think what I want to see most is the Suns win. Wow. Oh, yeah, because you got money on it. Yeah, because I got some money. Right, right, right. Back to sad kings.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You put money on that sad king, Chris Paul, who's looking pretty stellar. That's what I'm saying. The whole thing. I was like, ooh, this might be the one. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? I've been enjoying my own tweet where I took the trailer for the reboot of original Law & Order
Starting point is 01:09:12 and put 15 seconds of City of Gods by Fabio over the top of it. Yeah. I've just been watching a lot. Nobody else has watched it. All 500 views are me oh yeah i also liked your tweet do you think shit poster is going to be an official surname 100 years from now i'm saying yeah connection to what we were just talking about yeah
Starting point is 01:09:38 daryl shit poster is right exactly oh of the 4chan shit poster yes yes as a matter of fact yeah that was good go follow Jamal on Twitter
Starting point is 01:09:53 at non-profit comic great follow Miles where can people find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying oh man
Starting point is 01:09:59 find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray obviously we got mad boosties the NBA podcast. Check that one out. Uh,
Starting point is 01:10:07 latest episode with Roy Wood Jr. Came out. It's really fun. And then also the other podcasts I do for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra. If you like 90 day fiance and we didn't, what the fuck you waiting for? Come listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Um, some tweets that I like, let's see. This is first one that i just read which isn't really funny it's just more like it's this like washed ass twitter journalism shit this guy zach beauchamp who is a writer over at vox he just tweeted this shit i always see these tweets like they're once a week which is biden's collab with young voters is kind of mysterious i've heard a lot of theories but i'm not sure any one of them is all that convincing collapse what the fuck did you say
Starting point is 01:10:50 collab or collapse the biden's collapse with young voters yeah no not collab this ain't biden x millennial bailout not happening but yeah everyone like obviously the ratios were just at another level but again it's so it just fucking really it irritates me man when you have people who are like running these websites where so many people just take in this information as like this is the representation of the reality i'm in and these people are asking like i don't get why like young people aren't fucking with biden like are you even a millennial bro right you not even see it from there or you just are you like what help me understand this anyway here's a funnier one this is from molly app not molly or silly tweeted
Starting point is 01:11:41 okay i'm sorry i need to tweet because i can't take it. My 21-year-old second cousin has brought a 57-year-old man to Easter lunch. He has both ears pierced. He has frosted tips. He has said, that's lit, twice. I'm vibrating with cringe and fascination. Wow. Just somebody with the dual
Starting point is 01:11:59 piercings, frosted tips, saying it's lit. Oh. God. Sounds like a man who's reached his final form exactly exactly he just picked a picked an aesthetic from the past you know he's lived through them all he was like this is the one i like early early timberlake i choose this yeah he fucked up my three sad guy parlay on Sad Kings by getting invited to an Easter lunch. Fuck! Ah, you were so close, man.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I was so close. It's right there. You look at the stats. You're like, this one's nailed on. I'm looking at the sabermetrics on this shit. It was right there for you, cousin. Yes. He's never said hello to a woman at a bar in his life
Starting point is 01:12:46 Everything was going the right way Just trying some things out You know Move fast and break stuff Next thing you know you got two ear piercings And you got the frosty tip A tweet I've been enjoying I'm on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien
Starting point is 01:13:01 And you can find me liking stuff like this At Cody and Fridge tweeted People be be giving directions like head south, LMAO, okay, Lewis and Clark. And then there's just this tweet, like, I'm not huge on the feel good animal tweets, but at Yoda forever tweeted, a bird discovers golf balls can bounce. Now it cannot stop playing and this bird i don't know it's it's just wow this bird picks up golf balls walks them over to some concrete just like slams the shit on the thing and then once they start bouncing has like just the best
Starting point is 01:13:41 reaction just like pure joy it's kind of like it reminds me of like parenting where like you get to watch kid your kid like discover bubbles and you're kind of like oh shit yeah bubbles are like kind of miraculous like that's a that's a weird thing it's weird that those exist like they're they're fun like the watching a bird discover that golf balls can bounce it It's pretty fun. I recommend it. See, that's the kind of content people need. Not wasting hours on TikTok.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I'm pretty sure this probably came from TikTok. I know, right? Exactly. Fuck. All right, back to TikTok. All right. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes
Starting point is 01:14:26 on our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. Miles, what song do we think people should go check out? This is an artist. I think he's a Brit by way of Nigeria. I know he's Nigerian. This is Wayne Snow. And this track is called Figurine.
Starting point is 01:14:46 This track is great. It's got a really super hard breakbeat sample with a super heavy bass line. Wayne Snow is one of these artists who dabbles in so many different genres, but it ends up coming out
Starting point is 01:15:01 just smooth. It's just got some grit to it. But his falsetto singing on it, too, evens it all out. So it's a very pleasant listen. And if you like hip-hop or anything with a good backbeat, you have to listen to this. And even if you don't, you should listen to it because it's objectively good. So this is Figurine by Wayne Snow. All right.
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