The Daily Zeitgeist - The Attempted AssassinaTrend Of Donald Trump 7/15: Donald Trump, More Donald Trump, Katie Perry

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

In this edition of The Attempted AssassinaTrend Of Donald Trump, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, Donald Trump's Florida case getting thro...wn out, Katie Perry's big comeback and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 but yeah man what i did i miss anything i wasn't uh let's see dude i can't even believe the like just everything that fucking happened like while you were gone miles last we spoke the debate was about to happen we thought we thought trump might back out at the last second because he was scared of debate skills because he's gonna be on coke and next thing i know i'm like dude i wish this guy was doing i wish he was on all the coke man um yeah what uh yeah i think the last thing i said to you was like i'll be back right after trump is sentenced so maybe like we'll be talking about this this guy going to jail right i mean like yeah we got we got the debate the subsequent fallout dems in disarray as you love that was just the last dems in absolute disarray trying to figure
Starting point is 00:00:59 this one out and then fucking saturday this right they they finally got the mainstream media finally got their death this race you earned this one baby this was fully earned absolutely and then absolutely shitting the bed and jesus christ um yeah and then this weekend um that's why i was telling that's why i texted you i was like dude stay out a few more weeks just like if this is what happens when you're out for two weeks what happens if you're out for four it's it's just gonna spin like an asteroid is like on course to like hit the earth and we're like yeah returning is the only thing that's gonna bring this thing back on track um can you imagine you're back and then it's like america drops out too much it was
Starting point is 00:01:43 my near-death experience. It was a lot of other world. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers,
Starting point is 00:02:22 church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader
Starting point is 00:03:23 Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session.
Starting point is 00:04:07 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out?
Starting point is 00:04:20 I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome back to this episode of DIRT NIGHT OF THESE EYEGASTS! Yeah. Wow. Yeah! I'm Jack O'Brien. I'm i was i was away for a couple weeks back o'brien
Starting point is 00:05:10 back o'brien um and uh things are different i think things feel a little different what was the last thing you remembered i know you weren't trying not to read the news so all right so i'm just picking up blind here i'm just uh yeah doing a cold read here uh so last thing we talked about miles you and i is you you were saying that um you know there was speculation that trump might not show up to the debate uh because uh he was so scared of how hype biden was gonna be just how like wired this man was gonna be um and then you know you didn't see the debate okay so i missed the debate but i'm sure you know not much news there and then there's also the idea that uh trump was gonna be sentenced uh to you
Starting point is 00:06:02 know yeah there was there was that too yep there was that too september uh you didn't see anything this week did you check anything this weekend nah man i was just chilling jet lagged jet lag just you know looking all right i have a i have a great uh slideshow for everyone so i'm hoping there wasn't too much news going on because i got a lot of well i got basically a travel log to go through with you guys um i don't know i think we need to study what is happening like in the cosmos when you go out because i can't i honestly all jokes aside because you do know what happened i can't believe how much fucking happened how much the last time i left the country went to guatemala uh the uh will smith slapped chris rock
Starting point is 00:06:49 and i thought that was big news i thought i missed big news that time increasing returns jesus if that's then the next time you go the earth may just end or something who knows i'm not saying any like the attempt at assassination or the Biden losing the complete confidence of the entire voting public. Like I'm not saying those on their own are as big as the Oscars slap, but like together they're pretty, you know, they're worth thinking about.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Holy shit. Well, thank you for holding it down while I was barely man. Barely. No, it sounded fun. I checked in a couple times you guys were great um barely barely we were barely hanging on every now i'm like squinting my eyes i'm like jeffrey katzenberg thinks oprah and stephen colbert are can pick the new canon oh boy we are fucked where are we on the on the biden thing like that's just it's sailed he's gonna
Starting point is 00:07:45 hang on he's still gonna try to be president basically yeah there's still threats but i'm like honestly the the dnc man you had fucking years to sort this out like so what the fuck i don't know like i think for most people the the entire you know election has been framed to people as like not trump so it's not even biden specific it's just the emphasis is that it's not trump so who knows i mean yeah obviously seeing someone uh clearly struggling as they you know go off into the sunset of their life um isn't uh something that that brings much confidence when looking at who will be the next most powerful person on earth struggling but yeah if you um okay i could care less about the dem struggling
Starting point is 00:08:32 um all right so that's what we're gonna go with all right uh vote biden still but the height the highlights have been i mean or the headlines have definitely died down because like last time i saw it's like yo hollywood donors withhold $90 million unless he backs down. Although, here's the thing. This assassination attempt may have completely taken the wind out of the sails of the discussion around Biden as candidate or not. Everything is now completely consumed with the shooting on Saturday. Understandably.
Starting point is 00:09:05 We're obviously going to get into the events over the weekend. the shooting on Saturday. Yeah. Understandably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we're, we're obviously going to get into the events over the weekend. First, we like to check in with you, with ourselves, get, let you get to know us a little bit better by telling you stuff we think is overrated stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:17 We think it's underrated miles. Do you have something you think is overrated? Overrated for me, the idea that if you're like an omnivore meat eating person, that eating vegetarian or increasing your vegetarian or vegetable intake as like your part of your diet is hard. I think that is overrated. Now, I'm not a full vegetarian, but i have been more and more like conscious about how much meat i'm eating and i love vegetables so i'm not coming from a place i'm like vegetarian or vegan food no uh this is more about like bringing like a balance to my diet um and i
Starting point is 00:09:58 try and have like so the thing i've been doing is i've been having my lunch be vegetarian i eat a vegetarian lunch every day during the week i like and by doing this consistently well yeah but it's like it's but even just this with this one small trick i have drastically miles and i gotta tell you doctors do not want you to tell this small trick to our listeners i'm sorry they're fucking gonna say it bro i'm just i'm eating vegetables for lunch that's it wow that's how i'm doing it um but yeah it's drastically just statistically already smiles just carrots yeah don't get in ranch is that what yep yeah just a pint glass full of ranch a pipe a pint glass full of ranch and four carrot sticks
Starting point is 00:10:40 and that's my lunch every day it's super healthy um but like so when i can't have vegetables for lunch i try and emphasize that more at dinners that's more vegetable focused but i used to think it would just take this like massive amount of discipline because i like i always just naturally had this like craving for some kind of like animal protein or something like only have some fish or chicken or beef or whatever um but it was much easier to just for me to be like what is a vegetarian vegan dish that i really like and be like let me cut out the fucking you know decision making paralysis of trying to decide what i'm gonna eat for lunch and be like i'll just eat that for lunch like i love i love i love beans of all forms so like i'm making lentils and shit just fucking throw down
Starting point is 00:11:23 a fucking big bowl of beans and shit. Oh, I love it. It's hearty. It feels it's satisfying. I don't have any. Yeah, it's great. And now, boom, you go three beans on that. That's big bowl beans.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah, dude. I'm B cubed, baby. They know to the third power. Cuban B. That's what they call me. Cuban B. But yeah. And so i had my body tested the doctor said i had the blood of a 36 year old so pretty big for me i'm about to be 40 so you know real
Starting point is 00:11:56 i've never heard that but i need to get that check because like i don't hear that i have heard people be like yeah they actually said i have the liver of a yeah someone who's six months younger than i am yeah i think we talked about this with that one guy who's like the obsessed with anti-aging dude and he's like i have the fucking you know plat blood plasma of an infant or whatever yeah but i have a dick of a 42 year old i'm 48 the basis like for that we still don't like what are we even saying is the ground level anyway so like i said if you like you know if you're trying to do that eat a little bit uh less meat because i just i look at also like digestive
Starting point is 00:12:36 issues that people having and like cancer rates and things like that around are like heavy meat diets i'm like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm as i get closer to or i'm i'm middle-aged i guess yeah that's what the kids say uh i guess just tossing the vegetarian lunch now and i'm it makes things a lot easier yeah i feel like i'm coming the day after like jfk's assassination people are looking at the zapruder film and i'm like look at the pictures from my look at the slideshow from my vacation guys guys this is neat hold on hold on this is a this is a lego museum oh right okay yeah uh my overrated the 7-elevens in our country uh i was in copenhagen and first of all they have like 7-eleven just like took over all their corner stores every everything 7-eleven adjacent has become a 7-eleven so it's like one of the first things you notice in this wonderful city that's just like all you know bike lanes and
Starting point is 00:13:41 beautiful canals that you can just like swim in and And then it's just an overwhelming number of seven 11s. And, you know, while I was in the city, I was not stopping it at every seven 11, but stuck at the airport, you know, get it,
Starting point is 00:13:57 got, got it there, got to the airport a little early and there was a seven 11 there. And I made like six trips to that 7-Eleven. I got a pastry and a ham sandwich. That shit was so good. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:14:14 I just kept going back eating ham and butter sandwiches from the airport 7-Eleven. We have reservations at this great restaurant. No, I got to go to the airport real quick. Oh, man. You got to go to the airport? quick. No, man. You got to go to the airport? We don't leave for four days.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I just got to get out. I'm just imagining someone coming to Los Angeles from Denmark and going into one of our 7-Elevens and just being like, is this the Mad Max? Is this like a Mad Max post-apocalypse? They're probably like, wow, America really is going to shit. Yeah. That's really where you see it.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I thought 7-Elevens was our speed. Slushies and things on rollers. I assumed that we at least did that okay. Turns out, not so much. I mean, this is the same thing like like people when they go to
Starting point is 00:15:06 japan too and they have like japanese 7-eleven like the convenience stores in japan i remember you telling me that and i but i did not oh you're even good uh i don't believe anything you said no i know i know you should it's one of those things you have to experience for yourself but like the the level of like a really good 7-eleven you know what's interesting is now um i'm pretty sure japanese company owns 7-eleven now and they are they're looking at american 7-elevens and go no no no we're like no they're gonna they're basically i'm pretty sure like they are re sort of configuring 7-elevens in the u.s to be more in line with how they are like wow in japan it all smells like band-aids and like burnt hair so that would be the first place that i would start uh yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:15:59 mine's mostly like burnt rubber like someone was doing donuts in a car like inside the 7-eleven step in and you're like was someone doing donuts i mean i don't see the room for it but that's exactly what smells like a burnt rubber but yeah visible layer of dirt everywhere yeah it's coming though the change is coming so wow it's good that you pointed that out because i there was a there are a few news articles that came on the last month where they're like the parent company is like no no no like we need to have like food that like people want to buy rather than being like yeah man you want livingston wine some batteries like obviously they'll have those things but like the draw should be you can come and get something good and right now it's like an open air vending
Starting point is 00:16:43 machine you know like they they have like all the things you could get in a vending machine just like but but yeah no they it's like a i'm not gonna call it a restaurant but it's uh that shit was good i'm just saying uh what miles was something you think's underrated underrated um so i i talk i've talked before about like taking a hot shower like a warm bath like when i need to kind of i i know i'm like when i'm traveling or something it's hard for me to kind of adapt to sleeping in a new place like when i'm traveling for work or something uh so i use that to get a good night's sleep or just in general if i know like i need to sleep well it just relaxes me um but obviously with the weather being hot not going
Starting point is 00:17:25 to do that so my underrated is taking a tepid slash coldish shower not like cold where you're like gonna be like a guest on joe rogan talking about how like the fucking cryo bath you're talking rogan cold yeah no no not rogan cold like you mean a temperature where you can actually breathe that yeah yeah it doesn't doesn't have to set off your gas reflex just enough where it's like, this isn't warm, but it's, like, cooling. Like, given how warm the air temperature is, it's cooling. And I do that for a little bit just to bring the body temperature down. I do like to do that, like, an hour or two before bed as part of the wind-down routine. And because I run hot just generally as a person like i'm usually overheating like this
Starting point is 00:18:05 just helps me set the tempo because like if i feel hot when i get into bed it takes me a while and i'm not really blasting the ac all the time just enough to keep it obviously nice but not like if i had it my way like i would sleep inside of like an ice box um right but my but the the uh electric electricity costs too much to do that so i'm not gonna do that so yeah take a tepid coldish shower you don't have to like make yourself experience pain uh no just something colder you know not like your hot shower just be like oh this is like this it's like when if you were in a place where like a bunch of people were using the same water heater and you could tell it was running out of hot water yeah like right before the point where like i'm fucked there's no hot water but the part you go
Starting point is 00:18:54 oh it's getting cold uh this ain't warm this isn't really warm anymore but it's bearable right in there yeah there you go yeah um all right my underrated is so i took i took a tour of the uh louver uh oh wow yeah um it was a tour designed for children um because i was you know and because i'm cheap uh it was cheaper it was cheaper that way sir how old are you i'm six man let's move on let's move uh one kinder please um and so you know just i was i took my kids with me and it was designed for them but i got a lot out of it because it was like kind of a broad canvas of you know different eras that they were being introduced to and i think most people know this but i think because of like the quality of a eurocentric public school education like that i think when i think back
Starting point is 00:19:54 to art history it's like a couple weeks of a college class and then basically seventh grade for me and my education made it sound like the made it seem like the renaissance was this like they discovered ancient greek art this hidden underground secret that they had to rediscover and like that is and then they brought this amazing art back. And really like when you look at the entire history of art, it's really just the thing that's remarkable is how shitty the dark ages were. Like medieval art. It's just so compared to like thousands of years ago, like that art was good. Like they were already like making lifelike,
Starting point is 00:20:44 uh, sculptures. Like, right. You're like, really backwards. Yeah. like that art was good like they were already like making lifelike uh sculptures like right you're like really backwards yeah so that's the thing i just think it's worth noting at this time uh in our history uh that sometimes there's a massive backslide you know sometimes everybody knows the thing and then like a specific country or region will just do a major backslide you know sometimes everybody knows the thing and then like a specific country or region will just do a major backslide and everyone will start uh drawing and painting like me in seventh grade like that right right yeah yeah yeah yeah but i don't know i was i was really uh blown away by some of the like very old art like the code of hamarabi like that sculpture was fucking dope like there's all sorts of ancient assyrian art yeah there's ancient assyrian like sculptures that are like these massive like human animal hybrids that like
Starting point is 00:21:42 are fucking cool like they're cooler than renaissance stuff because renaissance stuff all has to be about the same like five characters right they're like nah man we're making up like but what about the versions of like werewolves and shit right and then i also got a shout out underrated from that same tour uh the butts
Starting point is 00:21:59 on the ancient greeks and roman statues and just statues across oh i feel like a lot they spent a lot of time talking about and covering up the penises of the statues but man some of these characters great big old dump truck asses they were pretty spectacular um i gotta say yeah wow oh yeah a lot of the tour with my kids and wife being like another great ass on that like wow doing al pacino lines constantly like sir there's even signs in front of the statues please do not yell al pacino lines yeah we should have those signs because
Starting point is 00:22:40 if they don't want me to do it uh the asses shouldn't be as great as they are. You know? Yeah. But, like, damn. These are... These asses are, like, goals. Kicked up, man. Yeah. Like, just great.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Bro, my fucking sedentary desk butt? Yeah. Oh, my God. If they fucking... I was like, man... If they did a sculpture of my ass, bro, no, no. Sedentary desk ass is nowhere to be found. be found they're just out walking around in some
Starting point is 00:23:08 fields sorry bro i gotta go i'm getting on this fucking bike and i'm going up a hill for seven straight miles to get these fucking gluteus minimus and maximi up the fucking amazing yeah gluteus maximi of the highest order um yeah and we've lost it you know we've lost it folks and it's because we're not eating enough raw liver and that's what we're going to talk about next we've changed the direction of this podcast yeah it's called ancient ass ancient ass diet uh the ancients all right uh should we take a break and come back and talk about uh the attempted assassination? Yeah. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:23:46 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts,
Starting point is 00:24:31 the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two
Starting point is 00:25:06 attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current.
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Starting point is 00:26:04 All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:26:17 What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.
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Starting point is 00:27:06 mentioned to us that he was in like a media uh blackout over the weekend and kind of only found out from his partner um so shout out to him a better man than me also that the advantages of not being in the United States, too. Yes. It's not going to ambiently happen all the time. But yeah. The media, as of right now, so I mean, Trump was injured. One person was killed.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And the assassin was killed also. Yeah. And I think two people are in critical condition. They're also in hospital. Two people are in hospital, yeah. Yeah. The media is actively scrutinizing the political history of the shooter.
Starting point is 00:27:54 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crook has got to get all three names in. And I don't know. First of all, that also seems to be the thing that people on social media are doing like a lot of people are very confidently assuming they know what his motive was based on like the two details we have about him right like i just feel like he gave fifteen dollars to act blue yeah when he was a minor registered republican but like those aren't even i don't know how relevant any of that is or what you can parse through that because like that's just very
Starting point is 00:28:32 vague i saw another thing and i don't know i'm not sure of the veracity of it but someone was pointing out like the day in which he gave the donation was biden's inauguration so some people were like this feels like a right wing like the dude lost a bet right where it's like all right dude now you gotta give 15 bucks to joe biden yeah um right so i don't know but again there's so much like i don't know if that's as relevant as sort of like yeah man what about the gun because it wasn't the act blue part that uh caused an injury to donald trump or killed another person it was the gun too but i mean as a kid who can't legally order a miller light uh has never been old enough to legally vote in a presidential election um and yet had access to an assault rifle um and everyone
Starting point is 00:29:21 just kind of moves on from that like that yeah i feel like the thing we should just be hammering oh like this feels like the moment where we could be like maybe gun control i don't know like that this feels like there were a lot of good guys with guns present uh and it doesn't look like a lot of good guys with guns by the very definition of good guys with guns um but i know there's like now obviously like an inquest going into like what exactly happened because there's also there were like reports that many people noticed this guy like on the roof yeah uh and we're pointing him out and it took a very long it wasn't until he shot that he actually was shot yeah and yeah you can there there's video
Starting point is 00:30:02 of the person shooting him and you know being surprised when the guy takes the shot. I don't know. There's a lot of questions. There's like, you know, I have my own questions. Like, I'm not necessarily of the opinion that it's strange that like they didn't shoot the guy the second they saw him because uh you know people who have worked security uh details like this in the past have said you have a lot of different teams in place which seems like a bad idea by the way like maybe yeah everybody should know who's who who's that sniper yeah is that our sniper is that a good guy sniper or bad guy sniper whoa what um really yeah there was some secret service type person on social media i don't i don't have like corroboration that he's like telling the truth but he was saying making reference to like a g8 summit
Starting point is 00:30:58 where there was like a near shootout between two security teams because they just weren't properly vetted. I'm sure there is a lot of training that tells you to hold off. The thing that does seem weird to me is that they just let Trump stay on stage for as long as
Starting point is 00:31:20 they did while there was a question. If it was in question at all, why not pull him from the stage but I think it's both that and the other like detail that people keep pointing out that he was able to like do the fist pump like you know
Starting point is 00:31:35 celebrate like he just won a bowling trophy after the assassination do the fist pump like those seem like huge lapses in security when there's like what might be an active shooter on a nearby rooftop hey pop your head out uh while and to get this like pose in yeah but i i also think like i'm doing research for this uh kennedy podcast that i'm working on and like one of the things that they said was a problem that led to kennedy getting assassinated was that the secret service was like
Starting point is 00:32:15 too impressed by him and too like into him and so they would just like bow to whatever he wanted so like in dallas they were like this is a fucking terrible idea man and we have this like bubble that we could put on your car and he was just like no i are i am but he just like thought it would be a bad look and wanted to look brave and so they just backed down and i feel like a similar thing happens like these you know it's not ideal but it does seem to be a dynamic that happens where the security around a huge massive historic figure don't feel fully comfortable just like stepping up you know and being yeah i mean no dude shut the fuck up like we picture that was even kind of happening on
Starting point is 00:33:09 january 6th too like where they're like what does he want to do oh we really shouldn't like rather than being like sorry man like we got our order like this is how it goes yeah all right i guess he wants to go back like that the fact that like i guess do we take him back he wants to go back yeah he's like a spoiled child who's like not been told no he went for the fucking steering wheel like remember yeah like that yeah yeah um i don't know like that it just seems like when in doubt the question is usually incompetence so yeah yeah especially as it relates to this country for sure yeah that's kind of my read on the situation. Yeah, and we're still trying to figure out, like, Trump said he was shot. Other people said it was a glass fragment that actually cut his ear. There's still just, like, again, this happened fucking two days ago, three days ago.
Starting point is 00:34:00 And we're trying to find out more and more. But that has not stopped obviously like the the right from turning this into the thing that i think when it happened i was like oh like when i first saw it i was like jesus christ like they're gonna this is gonna be so fucked up like for the rhetorically they are going to take this thing to the absolute outer limits and we're already seeing like they just fucking like they're using this now to like propagate every kind of conspiracy theory like they they have in their head i mean staged was trending like right away like immediately and that was a lot from like liberals yeah yeah oh that's from everybody though yeah yeah but like there are
Starting point is 00:34:41 a lot of liberals who like reflexively like no there's no way like he had to have set that up he had to because i think deep down people know that is that was a good look extremely powerful moment yeah i mean like some people were like the election's over and i'm like i don't know man this this year has been so fucking wacky i don't think who knows what's gonna happen but for people to be like completely resigned to the fact that merely him having this photo they're like this photo just won him the election um yeah i think is a bit i don't know i guess part of me because i'm like no no i can't be i can't check out this early on i can't check out this early on let's come on man let's check out you gotta you gotta have another round in you man let's just let's check out and start talking about katie perry's comeback attempt um yeah oh for now that's just what we'll
Starting point is 00:35:30 cover all day sorry folks um but yeah so obviously you know post surfaced uh falsely identifying the shooter as an antifa extremist named mark violets um It turned out to be an Italian sports writer and video blogger, Marco Violi. So they just translated it. But like, Violets isn't even... Why does it gotta be Violets? Violets is not a last name. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah. Yeah. So I respect it. I respect that they didn't even... They were just like, yeah, we'll call him mark violet uh viola means that's plural for viola the stringed instrument yeah but uh you know it's not a perfect science uh making up these bullshit conspiracy theories oh shit i think because in translate
Starting point is 00:36:20 violet okay so viola is also purple oh i guess violi is i guess they're just like oh yeah it's purples mark purple no that don't sound good let's call it marky violets like jesus mark violets does sound like a like in a poorly written mobster film like yeah yeah johnny violets yeah right but that's not even a real name either right his name was probably john his In a poorly written mobster film. Yeah, yeah. Johnny Violets. Yeah, right. But that's not even a real name either. Right. His name was probably, his probably name was like Giancarlo Violi. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Hey, Johnny Violets, sorry. Tony Tulips. Yeah, exactly. That was actually just Tony Danza. His name's Rick. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why Tony Danza.
Starting point is 00:37:02 This is all I could come up with. I don't know why Tony Danza is all I could come up with. I don't know many Italians. So one fun theory is that Trump was a victim of the long legs killer. Is this too much of a spoiler? I feel mildly spoiled about it.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I heard it's good. I hear it's fun and it crushed at the box office but we won't get into the details of that particular theory. Just such a demonstration of where the discourse is and we're like i don't know dude like some people think it's from this movie we're talking about assassination at them i mean i was happening at the same time yeah right right right um yeah there was another thing too where they were blaming dei like there was another thing, too, where they were blaming DEI. Like there was another thing and they kept doing on Fox. This all became about DEI because there were like there was like a female Secret Service agent.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And like I think the head of the Secret Service isn't white. This one guy, Corey Mills, he's like a congressman said, quote, Look, I'm not sure about who the individuals are in the individual detail of the Secret Service. But I can tell you under this Biden administration, the one thing i've seen is massive dei hires and i can tell you when you primarily go after dei you end up with die oh no yeah he just switched the letters and it made a point for him yep um yep and then the other guy tim burkett who's a tennessee representative also someone who if there was like a mass shooting and like he actually i think knew one of the victims and was like very callous about the whole thing anyway he said this quote somebody really dropped the ball you've got a dei initiative
Starting point is 00:38:40 person who heads up our secret service you know uh she was working at pepsi before this i know she was a former secret service agent but still okay so she was a secret service agent career service agent who uh got a bag from kimberly cheetle so in this one yes that's who it was it was a woman it was not a man so uh that that's also a dei hire and that's why and that's why this happened to president trump not because someone was able to get their hands on an assault rifle um you know and potentially out of a vending machine in the next few years based on where we're headed with ammo yeah yeah that you can get ammo out of a vending machine i heard that on this podcast the daily zeitgeist while i was out um that's
Starting point is 00:39:25 oh really yeah i'm gonna check that out i'll check that out so the thing that seems very disingenuous is people being like the rhetoric from the democrats caused this and then the democrats responding as if they did cause yeah and be like we're gonna stop talking about anything now uh we're sorry um like the marjorie taylor green clip that everybody's showing where she just fires a fucking long-range assault rifle at a thing that has democrat written on it or socialist and just explodes it like that uh it feels more in line with the sort of rhetoric that would cause something like this than um Biden on a strategic call saying we've got to put Trump in the bullseye. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And at this point, yeah, Joe Biden famous for dazzling people with his vocal stylings. Yeah. And getting people in a frenzy. It's just so wild, too. in a frenzy but yeah like this it's just so wild too like yeah the whole point about like it's their rhetoric because obviously this is with anything that like that is has the potential for some like real kind of reckoning with our society the discourse will go everywhere but where it needs to go yeah so now it's like who's actually more violent with their rhetoric and it's like this is not the fucking point but if you want to do that uh just anecdotally i can
Starting point is 00:40:46 think of of like fucking five gop campaign ads that i people literally shooting guns at things or holding guns and talking about our enemies and shit like that but yeah this is again i don't know that that's like the least useful thing but that's just reflexively where like our political discourse goes, like the finger pointing and like, who's actually the bad person rather than, is this about gun control or mental health or the all myriad of other things? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah. The question that I've seen people asking is like, how, like, like you were saying, you know, the, this has been such a wild fucking series
Starting point is 00:41:26 of events like will this be just a thing that happened in a couple weeks you know like that one of the things that I've seen people covering is the history of attempted assassinations on various presidential candidates and like
Starting point is 00:41:42 I think it was Gerald Ford like had two people try to shoot him within like two weeks yeah in the 70s and one of them was a manson like squeaky from oh yeah right and then another one like actually so she just didn't have a bullet in the chamber when she tried to shoot him and And then, but then another person like got off a shot also in California while he was, uh, campaigning and unsuccessful in both cases. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:42:13 I don't know. And then obviously you have Reagan being, uh, the attempted assassination on Reagan, which definitely had an impact and became this indelible moment. I I'm leaning towards like it's this isn't going away um anytime i don't think i mean like just given how how much violence already exists in the united states it's also like there's like there's no violence in politics i'm
Starting point is 00:42:38 like the united states is sadly an inherently violent place yeah like that get past what like the tv veneer version of the united states is like this is a very violent country we live in where guns are just laying around and they're not even that like just the existential forces at work against people means the status quo is also violence and i think just because of the violence that just surrounds us all the time, it sadly, it's not going to stick out from like just sort of hearing that someone was shot at and someone was killed with guns. But this is going to clearly change the election for sure, because this is just like this is a moment now that Republicans are absolutely going to seize on for them. They are going to take their rhetoric to the fucking outer just outer rims of our galaxy basically we have no idea what trump is going to do with it yet his rnc speech he's like oh it's gonna oh it's different now yeah he's like
Starting point is 00:43:36 i've got it i mean i should be dead that could be some bluster but yeah there could be something super fucking violent uh coming out of that speech but I think that's what's also really disheartening is like we're dealing with another shooting and like such a high profile one and even like with Republicans someone going after you know their Godhead figure and the discussion is still like was this guy Antifa it's like dude what about like it's a well I guess because all y'all believe that these everyone should have access to all these firearms that that that's just a given at this point but it's just that's what's really fucking you're just like oh my god man that's all the emphasis my big takeaways
Starting point is 00:44:16 and unresolved questions are currently uh well first of all we don't know we don't know his motive so uh that's like i i feel feel like anywhere where people are speculating, we don't know. Maybe he will have a fucking manifesto and be the first, the only highly motivated Biden voter. We truly don't know. But the big question, why didn't Trump have his shoes on? I didn't even notice that yeah there's a detail where he kept asking them he's like get my shoes any of my shoes wait let me get my shoes well like while they were like carrying him rushing him off stage did he
Starting point is 00:44:58 get tackled out his shoes like are his shoes that loose that or is that like part of his shoes off when he gives a speech, which is like, I don't know. Or maybe it's like, maybe he's like Ron DeSantis. Like he's got goofed up shoes and he didn't want anybody to like, cat to be like,
Starting point is 00:45:13 yo bro, I was looking at the shoes, man. What's going on in here? He's got some elevator lifts. And then I just want to shout out the two real heroes of the day. Uh, Elon Musk and Kid Rock. Uh, Elon Musk revealing. shout out the two real heroes of the day uh elon musk and kid rock uh yeah elon musk revealing
Starting point is 00:45:28 there have been two attempts on his life in the last eight months and he didn't say anything because that's just how heroic he is man you just i guess while we're on this subject i guess i could also say that i also i mean i thought you're gonna say that i guess since we're talking about i didn't want to make a big deal of it but it's just so funny that you can't see like another person getting more attention than him yeah well at least the stock price went up yeah so yeah good for yeah the stocks that went up was like also very many yeah prison industrial complex and yeah here we are here we here we go and then kid rock i don't know if you saw that video but no i saw that he put something up and i couldn't bring myself to just i could just imagine what he said he's like yeah brother i don't know what it was but three seconds of awkward silence after he like hits the
Starting point is 00:46:25 start on the recording but like doesn't realize it and i think he's like pretty drunk and he's like still self-recording trump you fuck with me and then that's it oh boy um but it's just i just love that he felt like he needed to say that um this is why like it becomes so unserious so quickly yeah yeah you know like you have a party who you know like like in the media too like with all the hand-wringing that's happening it's like you know like there needs to be sympathy for donald trump um and you know this is like a man that famously incites violence with his own words and doesn't have an ounce of sympathy for anyone except himself and like especially you know you see that like on msnbc i think they they uh they stopped mourning joe from happening like as in
Starting point is 00:47:16 its usual form because they just wanted to continue reporting on the assassination attempt because they were afraid someone would say something that like would like mar the coverage of like what was happening yeah but like they're treating this as one of the most horrific acts we have ever seen and by centering this moment as like the whoa we need to hit pause on society type of event it like completely again ignores all of like the real life horrors and violence that like we're facing today like there's like no no not this other stuff not like a lack of health care or lack of financial stability or ethnic cleansings that are going on this here when someone from the elite class is attacked we must stop this is this is who even like you're seeing just even at the highest levels their solidarity
Starting point is 00:48:02 is to their class like it's to each other it has nothing to do with the people the voters because if this this is the highest thing um that means that everything else i just mentioned like the actual ills that are facing people in their day-to-day lives those are normal or acceptable events um but again it's a tragedy when someone of their class is attacked and now we have to pause and reflect on it um and i don't want to live in a world at all where there's like i'm not like one of these people it's like that man yeah keep it going it's like dude you know what i do not want to live in a world of increasing political violence we already have plenty the united states is built on political violence so the to normalize this no like i don't think people need to be like you know being like
Starting point is 00:48:46 yeah this should have happened or whatever but i think at the end of the day the the discussion around this is completely missing like what we're actually considering like who who is vulnerable who is not and like what what the solutions are because right now has nothing to do with gun policy or gun control it's all like who, who's going to be holding the fucking bag at the end of this? The optics. It is wild that it became immediately like horse race optics shit like an assassination attempt.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah. Alright, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about another couple things. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve
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Starting point is 00:52:50 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. that they weren't already doing whatever they wanted yet but the trump documents case in florida has been dismissed just fully bye yeah they're just like nah man uh they're claiming that special counsel jack smith's appointment violates the appointments clause of the united states constitution um which uh is something they haven't had a problem with in the past when it's them doing it but yeah yeah well look i mean it didn't matter how flimsy the legal argument was going to be because it just always felt like judge cannon was going to be like dude i don't even know how to do this job but you know what i love you donald trump so what are i going to say dismissed yeah just case is missed charges dropped okay moving on um but yeah like this is uh i think obviously i think the supreme court case gave canon a little bit more confidence and just fully tossing this case out yeah so the supreme court was basically like you can't don't fuck with the president because it is very like depending on how you want to interpret
Starting point is 00:53:45 it you know what i mean because now like especially with the last thing it's like well the case as it stands with like you know with the um insurrection or the overturning of the election um case that's more to do with like what is an official act and we'll leave that to the judge to decide what an official act is here but yeah it was just sort of like leaving it open for like well like for official acts yeah you know what is an official like i don't know i'm not gonna say because i'm gonna keep it vague i'll keep it vague just as long as he says i am officially doing this before he does the thing that becomes an official act exactly i am officially stealing these butter packets at this restaurant right yes
Starting point is 00:54:27 i can do that clarence thomas went out of his way in the um trump versus united states opinion to suggest that lower courts should look into the essential questions concerning the special council's appointment uh so yeah like you said they they were like, this is what to say. Just do this one. Right. Yeah. Oh, my God. How fucking easy do we have to make this? He's like, dude, I'm fucking alley-ooping it to you, Judge Cannon.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I'm saying, look, maybe look at that. Use that as a line of, like, which is so funny. Like, wouldn't, like, in my mind, they would just fucking call each other. You know what I mean? Like, if you don't need to be like, oh, she she parsed through this she didn't read the fucking decision like that i'm sure some federalist society intermediary was like and this is this is probably the basis for which you can dismiss the case and yes part but what if i can't read oh honey okay well you you really are a perfect judge for this one uh and finally uh finally this is the thing also before i left i said if not if all else fails miles if biden doesn't
Starting point is 00:55:37 demolish trump in this debate which he's going to do so mark my words he's going to but in worst case scenario he has like a poor showing. And if Trump is like, you know, not sent to jail, at least we know that Katy Perry is making a comeback that is going to Katy Perry, big Hillary Clinton supporter. You know, she's on the right side i feel like we're we can count on this comeback uh being the thing that sort of starts pushing the nation in the right direction oh no what happened katie katie perry yeah it's called woman's world um i didn't even know she needed to come back this is the thing it's celebrity like it's like politics too and celebrity it's like you got you can't just take your pile of money and fuck off and be okay with the little contribution you made prior to
Starting point is 00:56:37 this right did you see the music video no oh man it's good right sick oh like i felt like i didn't need to watch it because it was so good dude it's the sickest fucking music video that ever happened and i love watching it on loop um it's just do the video just felt so non-specific like it felt like ai made it like in that weird way where it's like i don't know what you're saying but like you got a lot of visual shit happening but i don't know what the meaning is or the context and yeah people were just fucking completely they it got panned baby i mean because i think the other part too is not just like the music sucked but it was made of that producer dr luke who was accused of like sexual assault by kesha so it's like very like this is about this is a woman's world and now you're working with like an accused predator okay um go on katie perry but i feel like after this i didn't again i was like i thought
Starting point is 00:57:33 katie perry was in a way done not in a disrespectful way right but she was like yeah man you had your moment like you were yeah you were the fun young like cutesy like yo i'm having fun out here i'm doing like these like maximalist visuals and stuff and now you know the taste has changed a bit yeah yeah and now you got younger people coming up and they have their own aesthetic and that's what more people are into so i was like yeah man just it's it's all good you did you done great you done great for somebody who who's done all the things you've done now just just chill out but no this was a big comeback and it i mean absolutely it didn't even like break the top fucking hundred yeah it debuted at number 110 on the top 200 list on spotify and disappeared by the end of the weekend um which is a shockingly bad run for a single that probably cost millions
Starting point is 00:58:28 of dollars to make and promote oh my god roll it out yeah yeah people were just like and then she like dropped a video on social media being like i'm sorry uh do you know not what satire is uh this is satire that's why the video is bad oh do you know what satire is uh this is satire that's why the video is bad oh do you know what satire is right it was so confusing it was confounding i don't even have like an like i take an opinion good or bad i'm like i'm just like what this song if this song too it sounds like um something that would be like on a late 90s like Freaky Friday type soundtrack movie soundtrack hell yeah man like it's that like the sound is so dated too what the world needs now you know what I mean yeah a little bit hey Katie Perry you got bags of money I'm pretty sure um you did you done
Starting point is 00:59:19 some great proactive ads I remember those I bought some because of that. One of my favorite Super Bowl halftime shows. Truly. That one was wild. That one was like, your description of this, like a lot visually happening, but like no real meaning. I was like, that is kind of what I loved about her Super Bowl halftime show. Yeah. And that was so, I think, but this one is just weird.
Starting point is 00:59:42 It's a different time. It's like, it's a woman's world but it's like they're dressed up as like sexy construction workers like it's kind of like semi it's like a kind of very on the like as she says it's very on the nose so because it is like i feel like you need to have even more intent look uh check into my music video critiquing show that i do on twitch uh every saturday morning or you give me a break the video down but yeah it's um katie perry take care you know i think the washed reaper may have come for you and knocked on your door this weekend but like there was a katie perry comeback a while back i i thought or maybe it wasn't officially they weren't like okay we have to come back but there
Starting point is 01:00:22 was like when she did that song with me goes disappeared yeah yeah i think that's what i'm thinking about but on snl was that was that a hit in any way uh bon appetit i think that's what that bon app bon appetit baby i think that's what that song was called i just remember laugh i like loving that song just ironically because there's like just a part where you hear like fucking i think it's quavo or someone's going katie perry there you go what in label setup hell is this that's amazing all right we're back at it couldn't be any happier to be back here with you inside this news cycle miles Miles Gray. Love being in the hamster wheel together. Together is one. That's right. Holding hands. We are
Starting point is 01:01:10 in the hamster wheel and we are holding hands. Absolutely. We're not very coordinated so it looks very awkward. The hand holding is actually kind of getting in the way and I keep knocking Miles off balance. It's okay. We're doing it.
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