The Daily Zeitgeist - ‘The Bachelor’ Presidential Index? CIA Analyst Says We’re On The Brink 10.29.20

Episode Date: October 29, 2020

In episode 746, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Celebrity Book Club podcast host Chelsea Devantez to discuss a cash-strapped Trump campaign shifting resources, Trump leaving his followers in... the cold, the FiveThirtyEight toy to explore how Trump or Biden could win, possible US political violence, Lindsay Graham being shut down on Fox News while asking for money, some more Rudy Giuliani crap, and more!FOOTNOTES: Cash-strapped Trump campaign shifts resources in Florida as Democrats dominate the airwaves Wow. After Trump's rally tonight, he left thousands of supporters stranded in the blistering cold miles away from their cars. @omaha_scanner is currently reporting at least 30 patient contacts and 7 patient transports to the hospital. Elderly supporters were hit the hardest. Explore The Ways Trump Or Biden Could Win The Election This Scary Statistic Predicts Growing US Political Violence — Whatever Happens On Election Day Lindsey Graham attempts to beg for money a second time in one interview and is cut off In which @brikeilarcnn rolls the tape of Lindsey Graham repeatedly appearing on Fox News over the past few weeks to plead for money. Rudy Giuliani Flips Out On Live TV As Fox Interview Goes Off The Rails WATCH: Jimi Jame$ - Bullshit or Worry Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio appheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 157 episode four of the daily zeitgeist production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers fuck fox news all that stuff wow yeah thursday october 29 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka oh corona corona sent from hell to screw up our day to the sounds of fox news played by white grandmas named anna uh that is courtesy of let's see jay music jay music chicago and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray when you drink mountain dew and your podcast too that's a miles gray. When a Mazda's your car and you drive it quite far, that's a miles gray.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I don't, that's all they wrote. But thank you to Jim Halbert, not Jim Halpert, but G-Y-M Halbert on the Discord for that fantastic, that's Amore, a.k.a. That was beautiful. Thanks so much. I mean, you see with that screen name that they're going to have great weird al. Jim Halbert? No. No.
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Starting point is 00:03:43 Miles, you're wearing your Dodgers blue. Is that on purpose? Blew it up from the shoes up. Yep. You know what I mean? I realize what my TV delay is based on the timing of the gunshots and the third out in the ninth inning. And I was like, because the second the first pitch was thrown,
Starting point is 00:04:01 the gunshots went off. I was like, damn, I'm a solid minute and a half behind i'm like i just turned it off i was like yeah there we go that's what i thought great i was expecting some my windows it was fun yeah i was expecting some last minute antics because you know that's that's the world we're in i was like you know honestly things could turn around very quickly uh it was just a couple untimely in terms of them losing i mean there were some last minute antics when we found out uh the best player on the dodgers had tested positive for covid in the eighth inning uh yeah when rios came on i was like what's going on anyway uh but yes it's it's it's
Starting point is 00:04:40 it's good times uh in this part of the city. Yeah. I was shocked how many fireworks people had left over from the Lakers win. It's LA, baby. It's LA, Bray. We grow them on trees out here. Oh, yeah. All right. Miles, it's election time. We're trimming it down.
Starting point is 00:05:00 We're getting right into it. We're telling people what we're talking about today. We are talking about today uh we are talking about uh where the trump creep re-election campaign is spending their money uh we're going to talk about this 538 toy that they just put out that is a dangerous time swallower what is it just an elect interactive electoral college interactive electoral college map where you can like give one of the swing states to one of the candidates and then just like and then they're like now trump's chances are 70 does it redistribute or is it like distributes the uh the chances if that one
Starting point is 00:05:38 goes to that party the most fucked up one is the 270 to win.comcom one where you just click on it to be like, and this is red, and then this one will be blue. And then you start looking at the map and you're like, okay, so if those are settled. It gives your imagination, I think, even more room to run. And it's dangerous. Yeah. I figured out that Trump could win Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, Texas, Florida, and still lose to Biden if Biden wins North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:06:06 So that's what I did with my morning. We're going to talk about a couple of historians who think we're headed for a civil war no matter who wins. We're going to listen to some GOP fuckers flounder. We're going to do all of that, plenty more. We can talk about the Trump-Biden fridge quiz, all of that plenty more we've been talking about the trump biden uh fridge quiz uh all of that plenty more but first miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented chelsea davantes what's up what welcome welcome you guys it was incredible to watch you do your intro live i felt like i was at a little concert. Thank you so much. You did hold up a lighter. I appreciated that.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Started dancing, bought some merch. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for buying the merch, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, for people listening, there is a sale on TeePublic right now, I think until Saturday. So go hook us up.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Help keep the lights on. Get some TDZ merch too. Miles is rocking his pro-social social distancing club shirt. Yeah, this is gonna be this is gonna age very poorly. Pro-social distancing? Yeah, but like when I explain to my kids
Starting point is 00:07:17 like in the ashes of like the nuclear winter where they're like, why do we wear these garments that say Zeitgang on them? I'm like, they're the only free clothes we had when we lost everything. That's right. Chelsea, what have you been up to? How have you been spending your pandemic for the past month or so? Oh, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:07:36 We're just checking in on the last month of the pandemic, which is good. It's good. I've gone through some intense pandemic phases. It's good. I've gone through some intense pandemic phases. Yeah. And this last phase is, I would say this last phase is experimenting with Xanax as a sleeping pill phase. Okay. Of quarantine for me.
Starting point is 00:07:53 How's it working? It's, you know, too well. That shit's addictive. Yeah. And they're like, you shouldn't do this. But I, you know, I started the pandemic with Z-Quil and moved into a CBD phase and then I said it's not enough turn it up
Starting point is 00:08:10 I can still remember my dreams fuck that give me some Xanax I want to close my eyes and open them and it's daytime and then be confused and have this weird feeling in the back of my mouth and I'm like
Starting point is 00:08:24 that's so weird that does the back of my mouth. And I'm like, what is that? It's so weird. That does this thing to my throat. Oh, yeah. Every cough, every sneeze is COVID. Yeah, yeah. And how much time do you need to feel like you had a good night's sleep? When are you feeling like you won hour-wise?
Starting point is 00:08:40 When I won? I mean, I love sleep. I would say nine hours is great. And that's something that hasn't happened in maybe seven years. Oh, wow. That's not. I think right now I'm at like if I only wake up for two hours in the middle of the night, that's a good. Yeah, you're balling.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah, I'm balling. What do you do? I'm on Twitter at 3 a.m. Come find me. You know, I'm balling. What do you do? I'm on Twitter at 3 a.m. Come find me. I'm scrolling your daytime tweets. What do you do during your witching hour? Doom scrolling? Doom scroll.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Love a good doom scroll. Just turn up the brightness on my phone so it just really sears the nightmares into my brain. Turn up the blue light on the phone too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really fucked with my brain. It's noontime brain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Are you a waking up in the middle of the night eater? Do you ever snack? Oh, you know, I should start. I should start snacking. That actually might work well. No, I'm not a snacker. I'm like a paralyzed. I like to just to be paralyzed with fear
Starting point is 00:09:42 and I don't want anything to interrupt that time with myself. Right. Yeah. It's pure anxiety. A diet of 100 percent anxiety. Yeah. And I read I read at night, which sounds respectable, but I read celebrity memoirs. So it's just sort of like a neutral, you know. Yeah. Right. But that's work for you, right? Because now it's work. Yeah. Because I started the Celebrity Book Club podcast. But I always read those books. I've been reading them since I was a teenager.
Starting point is 00:10:09 It's my favorite literary genre. Don't roll your eyes. I'm looking at your eyes. I would never. I would never. I have a medical condition that keeps me from rolling my eyes. Oh. Couldn't happen.
Starting point is 00:10:20 That's incredible. Yeah. No, I, yeah, so I've loved these books my whole life. I genuinely like reading them. But now it is it i guess it's for work right if it doesn't interfere too much with your uh underrated overrated do you have a celebrity memoir that is like the gold standard that's the citizen cane of the citizen cane of celebrity memoirs in that it's a movie no in that uh that it's a really long movie, but we still love and respect it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You know, I would say I have a few. So Gabrielle Union's incredible. Jessica Simpson, I think it's out there that it's incredible. It's really great. Demi Moore, probably one of my favorites, if not my favorite. Oh yeah, Anna was reading that
Starting point is 00:11:00 and telling us all about that one. Super producer Anna Hosnia. That was an event for our workplace when she was reading that. We read new harrowing stories every day. The most secondhand book club experience I've ever had was when Anna was reading that book where she'd be like, oh my
Starting point is 00:11:15 God. So y'all, her fucking drinking problem. Like what? Who are we talking about right now? It's like, I'm sorry. Demi Moore, the book. I caught some real secondhand uh hate for ashton kutcher off of anna's reading experience of that book oh yeah based on his really uh futuristic ideas of how alcoholism worked yeah speaking of celebrity memoirs that super producer anna hosnia has gotten us up on on she is reading or just finished reading the
Starting point is 00:11:46 Mariah Carey one are you in on that one you guys please how dare you insult me there was one to ever cop immediately it's the Mariah Carey one not only did I cop it immediately I forgot I pre-ordered it
Starting point is 00:12:02 twice then on the morning of was put on a mask that's the Xanax for sure put on a mask risked the pandemic, went to Barnes & Noble was like do you have the Mariah Carey memoir are there any copies left read it on the floor like a 7th grader
Starting point is 00:12:18 reading the latest Harry Potter book just read it right there on the floor of Barnes & Noble and then the audio book not to be slept on it's one of the best um yeah with her narrating yeah narrating singing doing impressions of her mother I've only read maybe one celebrity biography because Miles Davis is because that one is wild in my namesake so I figured I'll I'll owe it to Miles Davis to read about that, which is very entertaining.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But I think the next one I'll probably dabble in is like one of the managers of Arsenal has one where he's narrating it and I miss his voice. So like, tell me about your life, Arsene, please. I love that. Here's the thing though.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I like autobiographies. I don't like biographies. I don't want to hear it from someone else's point of view. want you to tell me what was going on in your head yeah from your unbiased perspective of how you're like all i care about are biased perspectives yeah yeah um all right chelsea let's talk about uh what something is from your search history that's revealing about who you are well this will be right on point because this morning I was Googling Joe Simpson outfits. That's Jessica Simpson's dad. And the podcast dropped today, so I was like, I got to put some visuals up.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And Joe Simpson has been rocking, I guess I would call them floor-length vests. Floor-length vests? He loves just like a full floor- men's vest um and i can't even picture that you gotta pull it up imagine imagine a sleeveless robe yeah yes there you go that's really what it is a lot of different fabrics and patterns he's like he's kind of his hype beast fashion over the years has evolved in such a way that is so confounding. Because I remember initially, it was like, why is he wearing the most aggressive bootcut jeans? That was early in the MTV reality show days to now these weird off-brand Rick Owens looking outfits that he has on.
Starting point is 00:14:19 His fashion is not getting enough attention. That we can agree on. Yeah. He started as a pastor, right? That's like. Oh, yeah. That was the whole thing. He was a very, very religious pastor, then transitioned into being Jessica Simpson's
Starting point is 00:14:33 manager dad. And then while she was giving birth, he let her know he was going to divorce her mom. As she's like in labor, he's like, you know, Jessica, I think I'm going to divorce your mom. And she's like, what? I'm like in the middle of something. And they've been married for so long. And of course, the undertones of that is that Joe Simpson is not into women.
Starting point is 00:14:55 And so this was a big thing. And he's also a pastor. And so it's a lot of heavy stuff. And she's pushing out a kid. Does she acknowledge that? That he's not into women? It is between the lines. Between the lines.
Starting point is 00:15:09 So she talks about him owning his own truth and how that's really important for him. And he finally decided to do that. And he brings this hot male model to her wedding at the last second without telling her. So there's things like that. But I think she's leaving his journey for him to discuss in the joe simpson book that i hope includes photographs of his clothes yeah style evolution what is something you think is underrated um underrated i think the back sorry i just finally saw the best yeah i was'm like, am I in another weird delay where you've already heard her?
Starting point is 00:15:47 Sorry, Anna just said them. Wow. Yeah, they're a sight to behold. Underrated. I think The Bachelor and Bachelorette as a cultural clock on America. I think we could predict elections off of this franchise i think watching the bachelor should replace nate silver um i think it is a more accurate look at what's going on in our country and it doesn't get enough attention for for the work it's doing so what have we yeah
Starting point is 00:16:19 tell us what you've learned did the did the bachelor bachelorette predict the 2016 election to me yes i because i was watching it and i was like walk me through walk me through that okay so the bachelor is is one of the number one shows in america and sort of the way when trump was elected they were like 50 53 of white women did what like they they did what and if you'd been watching the bachelor you'd be like yes of course they voted for trump you've not been paying attention to them um and so you know in that year it was caitlin bristow was the bachelorette right before the election and this was a season where it was you know when the woman is picking the men she's in the position of power and that
Starting point is 00:17:00 season they brought in another woman and made the men vote on which woman they wanted to pick them so immediately it was like we still shit on women and then her season was all about uh she like has sex with one of the dudes early on and oh yeah and they were like tripping right and she's like yo i'm gonna fuck who i want to well she yeah she's like i'm gonna fuck who i want to and then america was like you're a slut. Right, right, right. We want to kill you. I saw the greatest, the goat season recap of this one. Yes. And so people lost their minds. And then the franchise had to speak out and sort of do a like, here's what slut shaming is.
Starting point is 00:17:37 We don't want to do this to women. And they were, you know, the whole Bachelor franchise was like, we don't. Are we going to are we going to allow this? And like, that's the year that like,'s like of course hillary wasn't gonna be president caitlin can't fuck a dude on the bachelor without getting death threats right um so and also you know the people on the bachelor are a specific type of person who like they always post a photo for veterans day you know i'm talking about like you can celebrate Veterans Day in a lot of ways. But bachelor candidates are like swimsuit, swimsuit, meet a restaurant, happy Veterans Day.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Here's a picture of a firework. So they really tell you like what women are up to. And that year was like, yeah, we hate women. We women hate other women. So without spoiling it, we got a blue wave coming? We got a blue wave coming we got a blue wave coming well but we have to look at our last our last blue wave which was rachel lindsey the by and far the best human to ever be on the bachelor she's a black woman she's incredible
Starting point is 00:18:36 she's perfect in every way kind of the way we make uh women who are not white be beyond perfect to get a chance at love i guess um no one watched her season it's the lowest rated season of the bachelorette of all time and it's one of the best seasons of all time because she's incredible that was in 2017 and now we're coming out with taisha and then the next dude is a black dude i think i think if we're watching the bachelorette i think we're gonna have a strong blue wave coming our way god please be right please bachelorette save us this could be its own podcast just an entire podcast that looks at the political implications of the bachelor and bachelorette that fucking rules um yeah listen i don't have enough xanax for him to not win though the whole yeah that's what i
Starting point is 00:19:25 thought okay that's what i'm saying like everybody knows and the thing that i learned over the weekend that anna showed me he's a party city model because the dude is so light-skinned he would be a party city model wait like legit uh he's like somebody found party city yes like you're like he's a he's a roman soldier and, oh, shit, he's a witch man. That is such a specific level of model. Yeah, yeah. Especially when you got to ham it up in a costume. When you're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 This is also going to be the first time, you know, they call it whoever gets the person the winner as if it's not your love life. But I think this is going to be the first time that a black dude wins ever. Wow. Yeah. All right. And he's winning with Claire. And now we have America's black man, Joe Biden, running for president. Good times.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Oh, God. One of my favorite underrateds of all time. I'll just say that right there. What's something you think is overrated? Being nice. Being nice. I think being nice is overrated. I think there are better qualities to be like thoughtful, kind, helpful, innovative, respected,
Starting point is 00:20:37 sexy, generous, loving. Like those are cool qualities. I think, I think, I think if you're known as nice, like if the first thing someone says about you is like, they're so nice, you're a hidden demon. Like it's going to be exposed that you're actually a demon. And my number one example of this is Sean Hannity. From The Bachelor. Oh, okay. No, Sean Hannity, I wish.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Sean Hannity is known as like the nicest guy in news. Anyone who goes on a show, even Democrats are are like he's just so nice and he's nice to the pas and it's like yeah because he's a demon and being nice is easy and then he goes on and he's horrific and racist but he's the nicest guy oh i had no idea that he was supposed to be nice i he yeah he has a rep i do know that he uh also like spends his free time just practicing mma right like jiu-jitsu like in an apartment yeah like one clip where it looks like he's literally like rolling around in a fucking studio apartment i'm like what are you what is happening in a fucking proper
Starting point is 00:21:36 gym what the fuck is this what is with dude he is on all weird who can't fight being obsessed with mma like mma makes weak men think they can fight where they're like, I just roll a lot. And that's enough. Well, that's the thing. I think that's like the thing about training MMA is like you get to the sort of point of pain where you can always tap.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And unless you're maybe fucking wrestling with an asshole, who's going to really like, you know, try and make you submit, like fuck, like fuck you up. You're kind of in control while still feeling like yeah this is what it would be like if i squared off with antifa in
Starting point is 00:22:10 the streets it would be my teacher and i would have headgear and he's pulling his punches and then he'll say good job after when he faked is knocked out uh yes fuck yeah wow okay that explains it but also miles why do you know so much about MMA? What are you revealing? I used to do a little martial arts back in the day. He's a grappler. They didn't want to roll with me, you know what I mean? I'm fucking limber. They don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I still bite my own toenails. That's how flexible I am. Damn, that's impressive. I'm like, over his shoulder. His leg, sometimes when we're recording, his leg will just come up over his oh my god this is more shocking than joe simpson's vest you know what i'm saying wait holy shit you really i was just joking man what the fuck back here bro oh what they don't know about me you don't want
Starting point is 00:23:00 to roll with me i'll have you in a man standing triangle out of nowhere. Get a picture of that. We need to share that on social. That was un-fucking-believable. That needs to be your Tinder photo. This needs to be your merch. How is this not everywhere? Exactly. Just my new pose.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Hitting a blunt with my foot. Oh my God. That's unbelievable. That would be the first thing that I told people about me. If I was that flexible. I can't believe I'm just finding this out. Yeah, exactly. All right.
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Starting point is 00:27:28 Just, you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're talking krav maga is that how it's pronounced karad krav maga yeah the israeli self-defense system where the it's the most yo like when you take a class there i just remember it's all these old former idf dudes goons who are like just work as bouncers in la now and like they're in their off time they they're like being like this is what i'm gonna teach you okay every fucking thing every context of like a self-defense setup the dude was describing assault like he'd be like you know okay so this next one he's like hey come here bro so let's say you're with your girlfriend out and this guy's talking shit. He wants to kiss your girlfriend or something.
Starting point is 00:28:25 So you're going to walk up to him and you're going to do this. And you're like, whoa, what is this? You break the ankle like this. And I'm like, whoa, none of these is a thing happening where someone is confronting me. You're saying I'm someone every time that every situation was like, maybe this guy is talking shit to you. Like would be the start of how you would break out of a choke yeah and you're like what is any of this dang that that's the that's the krav maga class i took that i was telling you guys about was it yeah were they were
Starting point is 00:28:55 they really raising the stakes in your class oh yeah well because it was for women and it was sort of like krav maga will save you from your sexual assault that is faded in your life this is you're gonna get out of it and so they'd be like here i am i'm coming in for the rape what are you gonna do and you're like uh now for real or like um yeah but what i realized in that class was that i've got about 17 minutes in me before i'm done like they'd be like run around the room throw some punches and at 17 minutes i was like i can't i'm tired like i won't i've got 17 minutes in me before I'm done. Like they'd be like, run around the room, throw some punches. And at 17 minutes, I was like, I can't, I'm tired. Like I won't, I've got 17 minutes until.
Starting point is 00:29:30 17 minutes is long. We still have to work on the pluck, the pluck. This is what happens if someone chokes you from the front. Here are your nine blocks against knife attacks. Yes, exactly. Or whatever they all were. I remember I had to do all those things. That was all when I was a very angry teenager.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And I just wanted to learn how some men never become not angry teenagers no yeah they become self-defense teachers exactly um anyway shout out to therapy you know what i mean yeah that's the other it's the other path i no longer i no longer need physical violence to express myself i heard, I think it was on My Favorite Murder, that one of the pressure points you can use when defending yourself is reaching into your
Starting point is 00:30:14 assailant's mouth and pushing under their tongue. Oh, yeah. That seems like you would lose a finger. There's one under your nose, too. Really? Right here, yeah. And then behind your jaw, you do these finger screw type things behind your jawbone. You can get somebody in a finger hold like this, and you press up on their index finger.
Starting point is 00:30:36 You could fucking do some Steven Seagal shit to somebody like that. Wow. Wow. Welcome to Miles' aggro corner from 2002. Can I take your self-defense class for ladies, Miles? Yeah, now it's just so chill, though. It's ineffective because I've turned a corner. I'm like, you know, honestly, it's just about surrounding yourself with awesome people. That's the best defense.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But will you be able to forgive yourself? No. No. All right, let's talk about where we're at heading in uh to the final what we at six days six days or technically five whatever who knows five days i know see you next tuesday yeah we're gonna be calling this until there's widespread civil unrest uh yeah one way or another that's happening. Sorry, you guys.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I got to call my therapist and get more Xanax. I'll be right back. They're like, do you make one that's like just three Z-bars in one pill? Yeah, just like a super Xanax. Just press them together. Can I just miss the next year? Can I get a king size Xanax bar? That's what I'm handing out this Halloween. King size e-bars.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So the whole thing. Oh, boy. What is going on? There's so much money flying around or not flying, depending on what side of the aisle you're on. Trump is spending like he might lose Florida or doesn't give a fuck if he loses Florida or is prepared just in case that maybe it's not the best place to be spending all his money or he's broke. All of these things can be and sound like they might be true. So where he's only spent, you know, like, I don't even know, maybe a million dollars, maybe even less than that. He's hoping for the RNC and outside
Starting point is 00:32:22 groups to basically come in and flood the zone and pick up the slack because as we were talking yesterday, Bloomberg's dropping money in there. The DNC is dropping money in there. Outside groups are dropping money in there to the point where they're nearly spending double what Republicans are in a state where Trump really needs Florida. That's a huge chunk of votes for him so if we take florida out of the picture like let's say that you know trump is saying like fuck it we might not win florida but then we gotta win all the other swing states if that is the case he would still have to flip like some balloon leaning states too by that math like that's how important florida is for this whole puzzle um and now but this all assumes shit like you know votes are
Starting point is 00:33:05 being counted so we can talk about this shit all day but we won't really know the reality till tuesday but the one thing we can say deaf definitively is that republicans are getting completely blown out on ad spend across the country like it's it's not even it's night and day the amount of money that the democrats are putting into it is fine whatever but the amount of free advertising he gets from just being constantly on people's tv uh but it's a little bit different you know before there was a fascination with trump when it was like get a load of this guy you know and now it's just like covid and trump and covid and this is what he's saying and covid and trump and that's why he's even starting
Starting point is 00:33:45 to be like what is everything COVID it's all right I'm ready to change the channel you don't think that's good for him the COVID and Trump all the footage of him leaving his followers uh freezing in the cold you don't think that's good so fucked up but the most perfect metaphor and not even just just literal example of how he would treat his own supporters um for people who don't know in omaha he had a rally on a tuesday night left people in the literally like 32 degrees and below temperature uh for hours because they didn't properly plan how to get people away from the airfield to the parking lots where their cars were or the traffic that it would cause and like a bunch of elderly people like went down with hypothermia a couple people had to go to the hospital and shit um because he literally he like wrapped him like all right
Starting point is 00:34:33 omaha peace out gets on air force one and fucks right off off the runway and all these people like yo are we getting more fucking cars oh god the only sad thing about them getting hypothermia is that it's not covid like all you just want it to be like 5 000 people got covid when the helicopter touched down i right the fact that he survived are you guys still on um you know the herman cain watch where it took him 30 days it's like he gets covid and 30 days later so i'm still waiting for for day 30 oh wow i didn't think about that i mean i fully give up hope i was fully like i said i tweeted it i said he's coming out of here stronger like a fucked up racist pokemon like he's not this is it's it's just gonna make if anything like there may be effects that are negative like
Starting point is 00:35:23 objectively but only are like make him more fucked up like more leaning into his his brain is already scrambled there's if kovat scrambles his brain it'll just put it back together like it'll take the pieces that were messed up and move them again so he can like he's like i'm actually smart now it's unbelievable what's happened the other thing is uh biden meanwhile is quite literally hiding uh i mean not really but i mean he's in delaware he's taking a break from you know hitting a lot of these social distancing he's doing the thing you're supposed to be doing well but here's the thing you know like going into the last week you're typically being like yo i'm
Starting point is 00:35:59 hitting as many battleground areas as possible just to get you know keep the energy up keep the energy up and you know i the energy up keep the energy up and you know i think some people are a little worried because it feels like he's taking the foot off the gas but also he's pivoting to his message that's focusing on the pandemic too where it's sort of like no this is what's going on this is what needs to happen like this is what i want to be able to do as president and the other thing is a lot of those states that people would want him to go to are going through fucked up covid spikes so in a way like it's it kind of does work as a messaging thing because those are states that are in the middle of uh you know really bad infection rates so i wish i wish the biden campaign would follow trump rallies and when trump leaves them
Starting point is 00:36:41 in the cold a bunch of biden vans pull up yeah and they're like Amy to ride have you been stranded in a COVID infected area come on in we have hot chocolate somebody like did a uh comparison it was a Trump supporter did a comparison where they were like look at like cool President Trump landing his helicopter like on top of all these people and it's just like blowing covid everywhere and then they're like meanwhile biden's running around with a mask on like a dork and it's just like what what it's we're we're just in such different universes we occupy such different realities when that is like the cool version of things i feel like when he was elected we left the old matrix of life and we entered a new matrix and now as we are coming up on the election we've
Starting point is 00:37:32 split and they're just they're just two dual realities and you can live in whichever one you choose yeah well it seems like that reality is kind of coming back to bite a lot of people in the especially like with covid like idaho is going through a terrible spike right to bite a lot of people in the ass especially like with covid like idaho is going through a terrible spike right now and a lot of it is like this thing where if you live in that fox reality where you're like i don't have to worry about this shit it's a fucking hoax and president trump got got my back cut to 35 infection rate in the state and the governor's still like i don't know if we need a mask mandate quite yet. You know, like it's it's happening whether or not people are realizing it. But I think
Starting point is 00:38:10 that's where it's it's all about how like which version of reality you're subscribing to to explain like why your situation could be dire. Right. Just to use this terrible tool that 538 gave us, if Trump wins Florida, he has a 30 percent chance of winning the overall election. If Biden wins, it's like a 99 percent chance that Biden wins if he wins Florida. Like Florida is is the election, basically. If if Biden wins, that's the election. Are you having deja vu to 2016 being on that same website? Okay, because I can't go have fun on that website because I still have in my body the day I watched 96% Hillary just slowly go down in real time.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah, no, this is in no way fun. This is me torturing myself. Oh, this is your Krav Maga? This is me giving myself all myself oh this is your this is your problem this is me like giving giving myself all the scenarios of seeing things like slip away and be just like preparing myself uh which is super healthy and right when you could just be like i'm good use of time you're like you could just be like i'm ready in case the president if donald trump is re-elected rather than like the of like getting down to the micro.
Starting point is 00:39:25 But how, but how it's going to feel like Broward. I thought you were nailed on. Oh God. I will say getting prepared has, as is, is tough in 2016. I worked in late night news. We were just watching Fox news all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:41 And one day I went home and realized I had three crank radios. I, that I had purchased crank radios that I had purchased on three separate occasions because I was watching so much Fox News that I ended up with a bunch of crank radios. And that's when I was like, oh, this is the power of it. So now as we prepare for the Civil War, I just want everyone to get enough crank radios. That's the most important thing. So we can talk to each other and keep podcasting yeah i'm about to talk about these uh experts who've been predicting that 2020 was like when we would dissolve into civil war basically since 2010 uh but they've been saying that the civil war will be fought with crank radios uh yeah just arm yourself with crank radios um no this is just a story but no no actually
Starting point is 00:40:27 civil war is coming so i mean so there there are these experts who and you know just watching the election coverage you can find an expert who's going to predict anything and these people are definitely on the uh in the minority who think that we're definitely headed for a civil war. One thing that makes it kind of eerie is that they've been saying around 2020, America is going to be really poised for a civil war for 10 years. That's like long before Trump was even on the scene. long before Trump was even on the scene. And yeah, they've basically been saying that inequality is the thing that's going to drive America to some sort of violent conflict.
Starting point is 00:41:14 One of the two experts is, in 1994, the U.S. military contracted the CIA to help figure out a way to predict if a state was going to like dissolve into chaos um bit like after the uh black hawk down events in somalia where like that uh where somalia kind of dissolved into a civil war and america felt like the american military wasn't prepared so they contracted this guy this guy was in charge of like creating the model that was uh basically predicting when a state was going to dissolve and then he hadn't really thought about uh applying it to the u.s and then this other
Starting point is 00:42:00 expert kind of reached out to him and they started putting models together to like see how the u.s would fare in one of those and it is bad it's it's not good um yeah i mean we have terrible inequality uh in so many different levels in this country that, yeah, the, the, the seeds are there for sure. It's just like, it's interesting sometimes when you look at other places that, that fall into civil war down, like religious, like back,
Starting point is 00:42:33 like religious ideologies, um, or like sort of more traditional, like, you know, uh, ethnic, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:40 backgrounds and things like that. Whereas like the U S is like, it's, it's, it's like's like depends on where you get your news yeah uh and like what culture like it's more of a cultural thing that's like dividing people yeah and so on one level i'm like yes it's definitely enough that the fracturing is there but it's like are these beliefs like yeah that's what i'm like what
Starting point is 00:43:04 what is it going to take for it to really get to that next point uh where someone is beginning to say like oh the reason for this the reason my factory or the reason i have less work is because of democrats because they did x or whatever when a lot of people are starting to kind of like also just kind of start figuring out like it's capitalism and slightly like the oligarchical class too, that there's like, what the, because both sides do talk about how these rich people are taking shit. So they're starting to.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Yeah. Yeah. It's, but it's, it's, yeah, but I get it. I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:37 it's like when you look at sort of the factors of like sort of the boxes that need to be ticked, like we're, we've ticked many or or halfway through the check mark of ticking a box fully. But how are we going to have a civil war when one side has all the guns and the other side has no guns?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Right. That's what I've always been like. I feel like the liberal side of this conflict feels too secure when, yeah, what you're saying is absolutely true like the police are on one side the the people with guns are on one side and like the liberals have a mainstream media that uh was willing to like roll over for the iraq war like both times but you know what we have we have netflix shows with really strong female leads
Starting point is 00:44:26 right and they could really make it spiritually it's going to be yeah well i mean there's also the the uptick in like gun registrations has been coming from the left both sides uh yeah but especially like the exponentially people on the left are also like i don't know like i guess i need to be able to clap somebody if it goes down um but like it's definitely um it the tension is there i don't know if it's going to be like door-to-door neighbor versus neighbor or more like these things where you see these like groups like patriot front who like their chat logs just came like buzzfeed released some of their chat logs where they're talking about like, we have to prepare for violence no matter who wins. And like there are groups like that,
Starting point is 00:45:09 that are organized who aren't even aligned with the left or the right. They're purely there for like the establishment of, or I guess reestablishing the United States as an ethno state. And are they going to just fight against local governments? Is it like what we're seeing with Gretchen Whitmer, where people are going to just go after very specifically political leaders? It's who knows?
Starting point is 00:45:31 But I mean, yeah, like the sheriff, there was a local sheriff who was on board with the Gretchen Whitmer thing. And like that, that's the thing. Like that's the thing. I think that the degree to which the police are ready to enact violence, not just on people who are protesting, but just ready to do it because they feel like they're being attacked is somewhat underrated. But the BuzzFeed article about these two experts does end on sort of a hopeful note because they said that America was going through a very similar thing in the 20s into the 30s as like a lot of europe was sliding into fascism the u.s was flirting
Starting point is 00:46:12 with fascism a lot of like hitler's ideas came from the u.s uh but then the u.s elected fdr and you know he was able to enact like kind of socialist policies that i i do think like what to your point miles like the if everybody just understands oh it's like the inequality is what's causing all of this and inequality can be addressed then i think we're back on the right path. But this means believing Biden is our new FDR. Or at least he can hold things off until the new FDR comes along. Or really, it's about putting pressure on him constantly if he's elected so he can cave to the progressive wing because the progressives are more mobilized to try and get out there.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Limousine liberal class people are not hitting the streets because their needs are fully met. But there are so many people who are realizing what the stakes are in this country and the pathway there, which is refreshing. But yeah, it all depends on if it's just about these competing explanations for your disenfranchisement or your lack of opportunity. And I think some people who are progressive can see that the way this country is set up is meant to benefit a very small number of people while having the rest suffer. And I think a lot of people on the right are sort of disconnected from that reality. They just see suffering or lack of opportunity without wanting to explore it much further and just say voice i trust what's the explanation and it seems like even now like those explanations are they're like wearing thin a bit you know like they're not right they're not as captivating as shit used to be when you can be like it's the damn immigrants like that's kind of like dwindling too like that's
Starting point is 00:48:02 not as like oh right because you can even tell like when trump even says that he's even like tired of being like and you know these people come here and um they don't pay taxes and uh so they're a drain what else biden he's a chinese spy like it's like right yeah because i think like racism can only explain shit to a certain point. Because racism isn't a logical thing. It's hard to really explain to somebody. It's a feeling in your heart. Yeah, it's like, how do I make that jump, though? It's like a Disney character. It's like where, okay, oh, yes, I'll open my racist heart to the possibility that this nonsensical explanation is how I will better my life.
Starting point is 00:48:45 But yeah, when people's needs are met, they're less likely to look around in anger at people around them. And I think that's the bottom line to your point about the thing that can save people is have people's needs met. If you are not starving, you're less likely to be trying to figure out a solution to that that could end in violence or if you need employment or other opportunities for upward mobility um so yeah who knows maybe we'll see we just gotta wait for aoc fdr don't forget what's his name robinette joe robinette biden yeah jrb listen don't watch the kerry washington anita hill movie or your belief in biden goes down yeah oh i mean i think most people who yeah i mean you could also just read the real history but you could also watch the kerry washington anita hill movie about it and um it'll go down a little easier yeah right uh but to that point fdr was also a uh racist like socialite so um you know people can still enact internment
Starting point is 00:49:54 caps policy that is policies yeah but that's america you know what i mean and are we the fools for we're seeing it and yet we're still like, yeah, man, this thing could work. I think so. God, I hope we win. Yes. Yes, go. There's articles from,
Starting point is 00:50:16 I just happened to come across this Irish article from the Irish Times or one of their newspapers where everybody's worried about this election. They're just like what is yeah they should be to these fuckers like they who because yeah it was suddenly you found out the nicest house on the block was had a bunch of racist hoarders living inside and the garbage is spilling out into the neighborhood and you're like what the fuck i thought that house had all their shit they were the ones going around calling people out on their shit right and look at all this bullshit spilling out the front door they don't even know how to oh my god and then i think a lot of people are like holy shit we believe that bullshit too to a certain extent i feel like
Starting point is 00:50:58 it has to feel so good you like it's it's like going if you went into the Kardashian house and it was just full of rotting garbage you'd be like tight I'm so happy about that that's what everyone's experiencing now yeah it's that Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif over and over again just from around the world
Starting point is 00:51:19 or I'm sure at a certain level it fucks with your whole worldview like if you were buying into like the media propaganda that was being pumped out of the u.s for decades that you're like dude america is like this dope ass place man where it's all good and to a certain extent i mean depending on who you are in this country you have been experiencing some semblance of a civil war with a constant assault on your existence so it's that's why like when i look at this i'm like honestly though there are people out here who really are this i don't know how much worse it could get i guess the difference
Starting point is 00:51:50 being some stranger is shooting them in the street or something but for all intents and purposes they have no support from you know the municipalities from the communities and things like that from fucking law enforcement whatever you want to call it so it's all it all depends on how you're looking at it so it's all it all depends on how you're looking at it it's like when people say they're like who's to say that like if you say there's no hell who's to say that this isn't hell right now yeah that is my favorite instagram quote yeah who's to say you gotta do that cursive but with that lovely cursive font on like fake parchment paper who's to say this isn't hell Who's to say this isn't hell? Who's to say this isn't hell?
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Starting point is 00:56:47 I feel like Trump takes up a lot of the oxygen, but, you know, there's other people. There's Lindsey Graham, for instance. Yeah. I think we just need, look, we can keep talking about civil war and how we're going to have to, you know, do Krav Maga with our crank radios and defend our streets. But just want to take a moment you know because even if it all when it all when it all falls down we need to be able to laugh on the way there and i just want to i just want to bathe in how uncomfortable lindsey graham has been over the past month watching his polls just fucking shrink and jamie harrison basically be in a statistical
Starting point is 00:57:27 deadlock tie with him right now um and all he's been doing is begging for money and it's been like the most pathetic thing for this ghoul who just rammed through the amy coney barrett confirmation uh you love to see that but he was on laura ingram on tuesday night and she straight up gave him the sweet fucking death of like the mercy mute while he was asking for money at the end of his segment so this is him wrapping a segment laura ingram and then cutting his mic off as he asked for money uh for uh thank you very much we We really appreciate it. Lindsey Graham. All right. Help me if you can. Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Excuse me. Moving on to our next story. Star wipe. Because he has somebody, this guy, who is it? Brianna Kyler, somebody who's on CNN. She tweeted this super cut of Lindsey Graham begging for money on Fox News. And I just I'll play a little of it because it is sweet to hear how he's like, guys, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I mean, five or ten bucks, anything. He has like the same line over and over. Let's just take a moment to just to breathe this in. I'm getting out raised three to one outspent four to one. If you want to help me fight back, go to Lindsey Graham dot com. Five or ten bucks from half your audience would fill in the gap that I'm facing. I'm being killed financially. This money is because they hate my guts.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Get on our websites, LindseyGraham.com. Five or ten bucks goes a long way. I'm getting overwhelmed. LindseyGraham.com, help me. I'm being outraged. Help me. If you want to help me, me lindseygram.com five or ten bucks goes a long way lindseygram.com they're loading me up because i'm chairman of the
Starting point is 00:59:10 judiciary committee go to lindsey five or ten bucks really goes a long way five or ten bucks really goes a long way to completely turn my back on every every value i had i mean who who would have who would have predicted this mess for me um So yeah, I'm eating shit, Lindsey Graham. That's some 700 club level begging. Yeah, right? That was some like for your soul. It's such a small amount too. Aren't you
Starting point is 00:59:36 all the rich people? Ask for more money. Hey, five or ten bucks goes a long way. If half your audience gave five to ten bucks, I mean, honestly, that'll at least get me a sandwich on the way home tonight, okay? Oh, man. At least Bernie Sanders asked for 27. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:51 He's specific with it. I mean, yeah, you always ask for money with your chest out. Don't be like, uh-huh, please. Just be like, hey, I need fucking ten bucks, fool. Or this shit's fucked up. Later on, as he gets more desperate, he's like, this is what's going to happen. If I lose, then what's going to happen to Mr. President Trump? You hate to see it.
Starting point is 01:00:08 You don't have a family. You don't have a family. Where's all your money going? Why don't you have money? I think because, yeah, everyone's abandoned him, though. Like the donor class is just really like the rich, rich Republican people who are used to just throwing money away on these people are like, guys, you're fucking racist. Shit talking isn't working the same way it used to. And you're not changing the script. They're like, why am I, I'm not going to pay $10 million for more fucking race bait and bullshit. Uh, because at the end of the day, I got a business to run.
Starting point is 01:00:37 So there's, there, there's many, many things, uh, sort of working against him. The one thing, many things sort of working against him. The one thing, the other thing is I want to talk about is Rudy Giuliani went on Kennedy. If you remember Lisa Kennedy Montgomery, most of us old people remember her as being pals with the likes of Bill Bellamy, Kurt Loder and Tabitha Soren on MTV. Kennedy the VJ.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Yeah. She's been on Fox business for a minute now and like on her libertarian wave and actually for the last few years she's been talking like a straight up trumper so you know then nice try but she had rudy giuliani on to i guess like someone talked her into letting him go on to make more hunter biden bullshit lies up and she was even like sick of basically how to like just how just vague and um just unsubstantive i think if you're like really pulling for trump and a thoughtful person like which i feel like are oxymorons but like if you are you probably are really annoyed by rudy giuliani because he's like taking up all of
Starting point is 01:01:45 this attention like with this Hunter Biden shit that doesn't seem to be working. Yeah. And this whole interview, right? Kennedy, bless her racist heart or libertarian, however she's branding it nowadays. She pulls so many faces during this interview when Rudy just has been like, so the first thing he's there they keep talking about this hunter biden laptop and she is so suspicious she's like so they've had this for a while and you just got the laptop now like i don't understand how does this work exactly he's like here's the thing kitty so he's trying to constantly throughout this interview inject new fucking damning allegations against the biden which kennedy's is not interested in this first
Starting point is 01:02:26 one is like about how apparently rudy's found new chinese money uh on this laptop or whatever the fuck he's trying to say more money from the chinese another 10 10 million dollars that went into the company that joe is a 10 partner of. So we're constantly finding new documents. The most extraordinary thing is the amount of money that in this period of time, at least now that we can count, that went to- See, he's like, so throughout this,
Starting point is 01:02:58 he's talking like this and it's supposed to be like earth shattering. And Kennedy's like, what? Huh? Right. She's like, dude, I got to get to the borat shit in a second so you're gonna have to wrap this up because i still gotta press you about borat
Starting point is 01:03:09 um then he goes on to say so at one point he says that like hunt that joe and hunter biden are like a danger to children or something trying to imply that they are somehow assaulting kids and but then he then kennedy's like what and she's like yeah and like the fbi and law enforcement they're doing nothing about it so she comes back around and be like let me get this straight rudy what's your saying right now and listen to this asshole flounder 20 million dollars are you asserting right now get away with the danger but local and federal law enforcement are allowing young children to be abused to protect the biden i didn't say abused well i i use their words joe biden says he's ruffling through paper that he is a danger so uh then
Starting point is 01:03:53 at one point she accuses him of being uh like christopher steel because she's like basically saying like you're kind of doing the same thing christopher steel did really she's like what do you mean it's like you're like going back and forth between Europe and the US, talking to Russian operatives and coming out with stuff that's hard to verify. And he's like, that's slander. He's like, you owe me an apology. And this is like,
Starting point is 01:04:15 he starts vaguely threatening a lawsuit on the air. And then this is the last piece where he fully just goes off of it, where he's so angry at Kennedy because she's not like believing any of the bullshit he's saying. And it's, it's peak Rudy. You're asserting that I'm a criminal.
Starting point is 01:04:31 I'm asserting that Eastern Europe is a cesspool and American. I didn't get them from Eastern Europe. I didn't get them from Eastern Europe. You are now repeating lying propaganda from the democratic national committee and the crooked biden family i had nothing to do with eastern europe i got this from the the repairman who corroborates it all right i have this is this is hunter biden's this is hunter biden's material it is proven a hundred times over and i have a voice recording of him in which he talks about
Starting point is 01:05:06 being in business with a chinese spy master i mean okay that's so it's just it plays out like that where you're just like oh god they really aren't gonna let this go it is such a weak strategy to go after hunter biden like literally aubry o'Day did better reporting on Trump's kids on Twitter than Giuliani did with the laptop from the repairman. Like she's like, Ivanka's a lesbian. Barron's a piece of shit. I have the text messages from Donald Trump Jr. Eric fucked someone else while he was married on the table over the apprentice.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And you're like, right, right, right. Now that's some shit I want to go on Kennedy. Yeah, it's really just it it shows again the desperation and the like it really shows who's in charge of this campaign like any other person who did any polling would have been like probably attack biden on these things especially in these markets but they're like no you believe that russia hoax remember what that did for hillary and then the emails that's what we got to get now secret emails because that was the key in 2016 and i have not grown past this strategy so that you got these two senile old men who are so insistent on this like really stupid tactic
Starting point is 01:06:15 and and using the word crooked he was trying to recycle crooked on biden and but he it was it was that a thing you're talking about where they're tired of it they're like crooked Biden right I don't know I'm sorry I get it then but then what's funny is she wraps up the interview be like okay so let's get into the Borat thing I'm sorry like thanks for that nonsense yeah she's like um fam like what what was going on she and she basically just puts him to the sword saying like I have a 15 year old daughter and when I watched that scene that shit did not look right to me and he's like no he essentially asserts that the second he felt something was untoward he immediately called his head of security and then they called the nypd or like they called the local police and then the police showed up and that's when they ran out
Starting point is 01:06:59 because he knew the whole time that it was some bullshit so it was truly truly this lies upon lies and they're like, but the footage is very clear. You didn't call them. You actually put your hand in your pants and then he goes on. You actually just laid down on the bed with your pants. Yeah, doing a little squeezy down there. Come on now. The thing that he felt
Starting point is 01:07:19 was untoward was his penis. Right. It points in a weird direction. That's the true IQ test, is someone who looks like Giuliani, you're like, send in a hot 15-year-old, and do you truly believe this woman wants to have sex with you? Okay, you have an IQ of five.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Like, how do y'all not know this is a setup? People are getting too focused on the idea of whether he was tuging his shirt in or not tucking his shirt in or could conceivably be seen as tucking his shirt and he was laying down on a bed of a someone he thought was a 15 year old giving out his address yeah did she present herself as 15 for the interview part i think so yeah because really well sasha baron cohen said dear she's 15 she's too old oh right he says that oh no that's what he says that when he comes in so maybe he didn't know it was 15 but either way you're not laying on your back like that the only context is in a doctor's office
Starting point is 01:08:17 might be where you're laying down somewhere with your pants down to be like i don't know i might have this hernia can you check me out doc, doc? Versus like, where's the sound pack? I've had to under my balls. I've had to wear those microphones many times and they're not, they don't require you to lie down and be drunk to, to remove them. Yeah. Even with the cheap ass Sennheisers that just goes on your belt loop, you know, the electrosonics. Yeah. Maybe you put a leg band on if you got a real tight outfit on. you know the electrosonics yeah maybe you put a leg band on if you got a real tight outfit on all women should have a little alarm system installed on your lower back just right above your ass and when a man touches it the cops get called yeah that is men's like preferred yeah like i'm gonna touch this and then and then i'm gonna have sex with a 15-year-old. Ugh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:05 America's mayor. Mr. Mayor. Yeah, yeah. Kennedy, though, she did try and be like, but before you go, Rudy, after he threatens her by saying, like, you're defaming me, she's like, remember this photo? We took this in, like, 93. It's her, Bill Bellamy, and Rudy Giuliani, like, at a New Year's ball countdown or something. And he's like, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:09:24 He's like, you had me on under false pretenses. Oh yeah she's like but i loved it she's like in the end kind of still fucking with it's funny because kennedy starts being like you're bullshit rudy so i'm just gonna end this by trolling you um wow her show is so i heard does her show get a lot of play on fox because last time i checked in she had like a little cutesy Bratz font behind her of like, Kennedy with a star. And no one was checking in. Because how else is she getting away with trashing Rudy? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I mean, she's on Fox business now. So she has a little more free reign. But most of the time, I remember during the impeachment, how she was so just just mainlining Fox News talking points. And I'm like, there's no way you're not just a full blown Republican. Like you're not even you're not even having the like appearance of trying to be like, well, this is happening and this is happening. I'm curious to see. But it's fine. I don't honor libertarians ever. Like if you're a libertarian, you're just a weird Republican. You're not actually libertarian. You just smoke weed sometimes. You're a Republican who smokes weed, yeah. Yeah, you smoke weed and are still racist.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Chelsea, you seem like you're kind of an expert on Fox News. What was your job when you were like watching so much Fox News in 2016? Well, so I started working for Jon Stewart when he did his HBO show, which was right after The Daily Show. Ah, got it. It never aired, but I worked on his farm for a year and we watched Fox News day in and day out, like just constantly. And then after that, I worked on The Opposition with Jordan Klepper,
Starting point is 01:10:57 which was kind of the Alex Jones speech show. So then I was also watching Alex Jones and those cool people. Holy shit. And that's when I started buying crank radios. You know those backpacks that are like 72 hours of survival? Right. I have five of those.
Starting point is 01:11:13 And it wasn't until I'd been in the job for a few years where I was like, why do I have so many survival backpacks? Right. Why do I have all these Jim Baker food buckets too? Why am I taking these Alex Jones supplements to fight COVID? Nutraceuticals. Excuse me. Nutraceuticals.
Starting point is 01:11:31 So you can become a caveman. Well, Chelsea, it's been a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you and follow you? Well, you can find me and follow me at Chelsea DeVantes. On Instagram, I do the Celebrity Book Club Recaps, which is a different form of Xanax. You know, I do the Celebrity Book Club recaps, which is a different form of Xanax. You know, it's where you're like, Civil War, Civil War. What's Mariah Carey up to?
Starting point is 01:11:50 It's just like a good balance and that Celebrity Book Club podcast, the first episode's out today. Jessica Simpson, Demi Moore, Mariah Carey, all that shit's on the way. And yeah, I guess I'll be registering for a gun soon. So look for that in my stories
Starting point is 01:12:05 I'm gonna be reading Mariah and at the range getting ready for Civil War yeah yeah um is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying oh oh some of the work of social media that I've been enjoying well some social media art some social media art you know I saw I saw a tweet from the Dodgers game last night with these just four women in the car just having the fucking night of their lives. That brought me joy this morning. You know, I really want to give a shout out to some of the great social media artists out there. But, you know, I will say this is so stupid because he is my boyfriend. But Yasser Lester has been trolling, been has been trolling republicans in a pretty spectacular way and also trolling fake allies
Starting point is 01:12:49 and getting them to shave their eyebrows and yeah that's brought me a lot of intense joy yep yeah we've definitely talked about his uh his artistry his artistry on social media. His artistry, taking down Jersey Mike's, you know, just fighting a good fight. And I have a front row seat to his dealings. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Also other podcasts, 420 Day Fiance, with Chelsea's friend, Sophia Alexandra.
Starting point is 01:13:24 The best podcast, best podcast best show hey hey stop by where we just get you know unfortunately they took down our tags of arnold schwarzenegger being in the episodes despite my great impersonation so apple podcast i have something your smart tagging needs some re-upping and some reworking uh some some tweets that i like one is just from uh lacy mosley because she was on abc news's show the con um two nights ago and she posted a screen cap of her on the show where she looks like it's like a fucking very serious documentary and she's in the middle of a sentence where it just says lacy mosley host scam goddess podcast and it just feels like a scam already um and i just love uh her and her work so just it's just a funny image but the two tweets i like uh are coming from reductress
Starting point is 01:14:11 the first one is how to stay humble even though you own the 12-foot home depot skeleton i don't know if y'all seen that shit around people with these 12-foot fucking skeletons of it's so stupid. But whatever. People love this spooky shit. And the second one is also from AtReductress. It's a woman looking at her laptop just confused. It says, woman hasn't seen desktop background in two years.
Starting point is 01:14:42 For cluttered desktop gang, you know how that is. Tweet I've been enjoying is from Janelle James, I think in response to Jared Kushner talking about effort and how black people in America have to want success as much as the president wants them to succeed. Janelle James said, somebody asked Jared Kushner what he's been good or successful at besides nepotism and standing in the corner of my room during sleep paralysis. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:15:13 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding out on today uh we are gonna go out on a track by jimmy james j-i-m-i-j-a-m-e dollar sign uh and this track is called bullshit or worry and it's just a great um i'm not i'm not familiar with their this group's work or if it's a solo artist or whatever but it's got like great dystopian like soul pop vibes uh which i like i'm just like everything sounds like music that
Starting point is 01:15:57 will be made 10 years from now uh just like with the backdrop of our weird and wacky democracy slash not democracy. So, yeah, check this out. Bullshit or worry? Because fuck both of them. Fuck the bullshit and fuck the worrying. So, yeah, Jimmy James, take us away. You can tell I agreed with that because I gave you the Michael Barbaro when you said it.
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