The Daily Zeitgeist - The Daily Zeitg-g-g-g-geist 10/31: White House, Halloween Decorations, Taylor Swift, Worst Halloween Candies
Episode Date: October 31, 2023In this edition of The Daily Zeitg-g-g-g-geist, Jack and Miles discuss the White House's Halloween celebration, Halloween decoration mistakes, the nightmare inducing Taylor Swift pumpkin, and history'...s worst Halloween candies!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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scooby-doo voice how about if i do it in just like a mediocre my mediocre how do you do shaggy
What if I do it in just like a mediocre?
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it's spooky season it is the the peak the climax of spooky season and i'm sorry what would your
simpsons halloween special name be in the credits if yours came up oh you'd be what jack o'lantern
or something yeah probably jack o'lantern yeah
although i'd probably try and find something different because that was what kids called me
for a long time when i was in elementary school so um jack o'dion um oh hack o'dion yeah hack
o'dion slap yeah brian said it might be Miles Slay or Bile Spray.
Bile Spray is fucking great, dude.
That rules.
Anyway.
Bile Spray.
Bile Spray, gosh.
Damn.
Anyway, let us know, what's your-
That is so evocative.
Simpsons Halloween name.
Yeah, I didn't really, I didn't think too much about it, but that just came to mind.
Sorry.
I know. Well, that's why you're the best in the business man best coming up with puns that no
one asked for thank you very much i i demand the people demand them miles um i gotta enter one of
those punning competitions yeah you'd be good at that yeah well yeah um speaking of what the people demand yeah the white house celebrated their halloween
with uh books and coughing some bile spray uh from from joe biden hopefully not full bile spray
that he coughed once oh my god he's dying he's dying i get it we all get it but like
let's let's everyone fucking coughs.
Yeah.
There's a lot more.
I think it's the sign that his organs are working.
At this stage,
I want evidence that everything's...
It's like when you have to show that you can poop
before you leave the hospital
because they just want to make sure
all your parts work.
To quote my friend Ryan, who once bragged to a girl, what's the matter sure all your parts work. To quote my friend Ryan, who once
bragged to a girl with matter,
all my parts work.
In relation to his
digestive system?
No, just generally.
Generally, okay.
All my parts work. But Biden,
all his parts work.
The White House staged its annual
Halloween event on Monday.
The theme was Hallllow reed which oh about harry reed exactly they brought his desiccated corpse out um
no they uh it was a because dr jill biden oh yeah was like a reading specialist with children.
Right.
So they gave books out with candy, celebrated, featured famous literary characters.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. The famous literary Halloween decorations included an accurate down to the inch recreation of the murdered family from In Cold Blood.
And a recreation of the beach murder from Camus the Stranger.
Oh, okay.
It's really wild.
Dark stuff.
Yeah.
Wild, wacky stuff.
There's a whole Toni Morrison section yeah for the kids too
yeah right a lot of the ghosts from uh 100 years of solitude um a thousand years what was that book
called anyways gabrielle garcia marquez yeah but i didn't know how many years of solitude it was
uh because i was a philosophy major i wasn't an english major among the guests secretary
of state anthony blinken who dressed his kids up like like i had to so our writer jm put this in
the doc and i was like no this is a joke like this i have to go and these costumes what he actually
did right he truly blinken truly dressed his kids up like zelinski and a ukrainian flag
like truly the fuck out of here fucking grown city how like how these kids look tiny yeah
they're like they really want to be vladimir zelinski and a ukrainian flag they want to be
paw patrol right come on dad jesus they want to be sonic they want to be mar flag they want to be paw patrol right come on dad jesus they want to be sonic
they want to be mario they want to be grogu they don't want to be the bolstering our like the image
of like why we need to send more billions of dollars to ukraine but they don't want to be
like part of your fucking political cartoon man like could you imagine though that house is so
rife with propaganda
that the kids are just fully into it they're like and dad i want to be president zielinski
they're like oh you make me so proud um but yeah the right really tried to create some kind of
controversy pointing out that biden uh first of all dropped a piece of candy so this is like
it really is interesting.
Like, they seem to have such a detailed memory of the Trump administration and like anything that people made fun of Trump for.
They're like, what about that?
Biden just dropped a piece of candy.
So in your face, because didn't Trump like put put a piece of candy on a kid's head at one point?
There was something where he didn't know what to put a piece of candy on a kid's head at one point there was something where
he didn't know what to do with the costume like it was the difference being donald trump looked
completely lost interacting with children like versus biden yeah he's like old grandpa like sure
he's gonna he's gonna drop a couple fucking worthers yeah uh as he tries to fill up the
kid's satchels but trump interacting with
children by not knowing what to do with the candy and like putting it on top of like a minion's head
or something because the kid didn't have arms or him talking to the kid and being like so uh are
you still into santa claus is that like sort of in your purview he like used business language
or something like those are two of my favorite things about him.
Those are some of his highlights that go along with him being a complete Nazi piece of shit.
But anyways, yeah.
Holy shit, he dropped a piece of candy.
What if nuclear codes were in there?
We'd be in trouble.
We'd hide it in the Snickers.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, and then the coughing. codes were in there we'd be we'd be in trouble we hide it in the snickers yeah yeah well and
then the coughing i just like you know apparently he was repeatedly coughing into his hand yeah i
mean so many people have either covid or the forever cough i feel like yeah um just make
more identifiable um finally relate to joe biden because he also has the forever cough that's right
all right uh let's take a quick
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i'm looking at three uh three mistakes three halloween decoration mistakes and then i also
want to get your input on some that i don't know. I don't know how to
feel about them. Yeah, whatever you want, man. I got my own opinions, too. And I think I disagree
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click it multiple times um as i just observe people's just saying oh this is what you went
with okay it's like why did you click it five times? Could have just clicked it once.
These are, I've already told you my favorite Halloween decoration, which is the 12-foot-tall Home Depot witch that appears to be flying on Broomstick.
Yep.
Which I happen to have.
Shout out geometry and physics.
Get a lot of kids stopping by.
Very impressed.
Giving it the finger.
These are the ones.
These are the ones yeah fuck you fuck you
you think you're better than me these are ones that i i feel like need to stop or like need to
at least be used in better moderation okay the yellow police tape yeah okay i'm okay with a
little yellow police tape if you've got like a wild murder scene happening on
your front lawn like throw a line of police tape up for verisimilitude we're good but there are
people who like this is their this is the you know color that they paint with his yellow police tape
and that's like their entire concept is like what if like our whole yard was just like
mummified with yellow fucking police right what else not just that just that man like what if
like somebody really went wild that must imply that something bad like must have really happened
here but it ends up just looking like a construction site yeah you know the i think it's
also like to your point it's lazy like some people will just like sort of tape off their yard with like one
random thing and be like,
see now this shit's freaky when you can,
you know,
do better,
do better.
And also I'm not really into seeing police tape just in general.
So I could use a different aesthetic that would bring about,
uh,
you know,
a fright within me than saying la it
is funny though there was a person in my neighborhood who had lapd police tape i don't know where the
fuck they got it right but they had the official shit and i remember at one point like they put
their stuff up early and people in my neighborhood thought something actually happened at the house
because they had like that it's also yeah it's also a functional thing that lets you know something
bad has happened. Right.
So, I don't know.
I'm just saying.
It doesn't, like, look cool.
It doesn't.
It just, like, is confusing.
I would say, in general, you know, if you want to use it in one spot that is, like, very clearly part of a larger theme or, like, you're creating a scene, fine.
Yeah. Yeah. of a um larger theme or like you're creating a scene fine but like yeah yeah i'd say like do it over your front door and do like blood splat like gore on your door with like you know x out your
door like so just keep it to the door on the door and we get it we get it yeah more gore on the door
that's all i'm saying um all right this one might be controversial but biden pubes aka the white cotton fake spider web things uh i call it witch hair but
yes which hair yes yes for me this is the number one offender it's probably the most common halloween
decoration and it almost always sucks i feel like okay like first of all i never i never have like
my kids stop and say whoa look at the fake the fake spider. It doesn't really look that much like spider web.
Right.
And it's usually not stretched the way that it...
Sometimes it just looks like they just took it out of the bag and just draped it there.
It feels overused and doesn't really have the effect that I think people are hoping
it will have when they put it up.
It can be a fine accent, but it shouldn't, again, should not be the main show.
And stretch that shit out.
Can't just have clumps of it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
This is the one.
I love witch hair.
Okay.
I think because I just like calling it witch hair.
Yeah. i love witch hair okay i think because i just like calling it witch hair yeah and no for no
other reason aside from just i like miss the misnomer of calling fake spider webs witch hair
uh i think so you're implying that the whole decoration is actually them being like a witch
shed all over you yeah yeah yeah just like have a witch's hair just like blowing off in the breeze
like uh what's her face in the craft when she's hair starts falling off the shower it just keeps falling out um but like i
i think that with the spider webs to your point people just get that clump they just stretch it
like as far as their arms go and they're like yeah that's good i'll put that on my bush and
you're like no that fucking looks it's like it's like the fucking police tape people get lazy they think the mere
presence of the witch hair makes this shit spooky you gotta put a little bit effort of effort into
it another side note i remember there was a girl on my like high school that was scolding people
because they were pointing out that it's hazardous to birds and like nature like to have your trees
all gummed up with that shit yeah like it's such a pain in the ass to get rid of too like you see that shit just like stuck in the trees after the fact i don't know
man just go hard go hard on the witch hair i think it's just more like i've seen someone do a cool
like where it looked like their car like they had an old car in their driveway and they stretched
it out nice so it looked like a fucking giant spider like was fucking up their car yeah okay like i'm merely putting it
over some shrubs next to your door that's fucking lazy and i've been guilty of this in the past
and i get it i get it i get it it's just i think people are yeah it's intoxicating the police tape
the witch hair and they think just the mere presence of it is enough no you gotta do the work
um tiny gravestones this is on amazon and not the people who buy it is enough. No, you got to do the work. Tiny gravestones.
This is on Amazon and not the people who buy it,
but it's very,
most of the gravestones you can buy on Amazon are like, come up to your shit.
They're tiny gravestones.
They're gravestones for a dollhouse.
When you put them out,
I'm not mad at you,
but you are signaling nothing spooky
so much as Amazon got my ass
or like a seller on amazon
tricked me into thinking these are going to be the full full-size grave yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm
with that tiny gravestones are an l but what do you think about the styrofoam like like just uh
arms and legs that are meant to be like it used to be like the witch getting crushed they just put
it in the ground so it looks like arms and legs are coming out like a zombie arm i like those those are like kind of
a new school one i think big time i love those all right so here's here's some ones i have
questions about okay do you think snakes are are halloween decoration i feel like snakes are freaky
when they're moving so to see like a fake static snake yeah doesn't
quite do it for me but i know people who are very fucking afraid of snakes and just even a rubber
one will set them off so i don't know i i'm not a fan i mean what are we talking about just like
having a pile of fucking snakes everywhere yeah like sometimes people have fake snakes involved
in their halloween decorations and'm like, for no good reason.
I'm like,
no snakes.
Aren't aren't spooky.
They're scary,
but they're not spooky.
They don't count.
That's where we're coming from.
Um,
I don't know.
Sharks are scary,
but like a shark is a shark Halloween decoration.
Like that doesn't fit.
Cause that's not where sharks get your ass,
you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think snakes are more Indiana Jones, like style, like jungle, like that doesn't fit because that's not where sharks get your ass you know yeah yeah yeah i
think snakes are more indiana jones like style like jungle shit the ones that are cool are like
when people use the projected animation of snakes and they project it onto something so it looks
like shit's actually slithering because there's like motion yeah that that i'm down with like
the idea of moving snakes i think can be spooky, but just random snakes?
Nah, not really.
But spiders do make the leap and do spook me out.
They do belong.
What do you think about birds?
A lot of people are just like, these crows, these black crows are evil.
I'm not a fan of the anti-crow propaganda out there and raven they're
very intelligent animals so i want to give them that although i did see somebody put them in their
tree like it looked like a full-on murder of crows was just chilling and they had like glowing eyes
yeah shit look yes okay not like one random one you want to look like a whole fucking set pulled up
like to fight another fucking raven gang or something on your block and that i can i like
that i like that yeah black cats obviously work for halloween but like dogs i feel like anytime
someone's trying to incorporate dogs it's not working as much for me dogs yeah like sometimes they'll have like skeleton dogs uh there was of course the
bye-bye man who had a heavily featured dog in his uh who is the bye-bye man isn't that what that
movie was called the horror movie whereas like if you see him you're going to like commit a murder
in the next oh there is a movie called bye Bye Bye Man from I have no idea about this.
With Faye Dunaway?
Oh, is that? Yeah, yeah, Faye Dunaway is.
And Carrie Ann Moss, Trinity from The Matrix?
Yeah. Is the detective?
Okay, Bye Bye Man.
Bye Bye Man. The Bye Bye Mans?
Yeah. I guess the Hound of
Bakersville is one of the
hounds, but like, hounds of hell for
some reason have never fully caught with me.
Bakersfield, yeah.
Not Baskervilles?
Baskerville.
Bakersfield.
Yo, the hounds of Bakersfield.
Yeah, where's a flat brim?
Yeah, for real.
Pulls up with the big Fox racing sticker
on the back of the pickup.
Yeah.
My number one Halloween decoration
always impresses
me uh fog machine if a house has a fog machine that is actually like working oh like sometimes
there's a fog machine and it's like is that a humidifier but like when the fog machine is really
like you got spitting yeah when that shit is spitting wow yeah come on come on i mean again i think this all goes
back to the thing that i'm saying is motion makes it spooky yes if shit's too static it's like i i
get it it's like a nice sort of set piece but if you have motion like people who do the little fake
flame pots and stuff with the little silk underlit that just blows like that a little bit of fog
a little bit of creepy crawly projection
that shit is very
easy and very spooky without having
to deal with witch hair or police tape
or none of that shit that gives me
and I we should we should uh
go to market with a hand reaching
out of the ground one of those zombie hands reaching out
the ground that like moves a little bit like that
would make that 20 times better
if it was just like...
Slight twitches.
Twitching.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like it's coming to life.
Kill it.
Anyway, it's all about the motion, baby.
That's what I'm saying.
All about the motion.
Speaking of the motion,
I actually don't have a way
that this is about the motion.
Are they going to make...
Yeah, something about Drake?
Taylor Swift, pumpkin.
It's the nightmare-inducing Taylor Swift pumpkin, Charlie Brown.
I think that was what the Peanuts Halloween special was all about.
Yeah, this is a viral pumpkin of Taylor's.
It actually looks like her.
Even though her head is not pumpkin shaped, they've made
it look... They've nailed it.
I'll give them that.
It is what you
would hope for from a Taylor Swift bobblehead.
You know? Yeah.
If it's a Taylor Swift bobblehead,
you would want it to look this good.
It is a 399
pound gourd
that they've painted to look like Taylor Swift.
And they've nailed it.
Past celebrity pumpkins that were less successful were Kanye.
Oh, this is by the same artist?
Same artist.
Same person.
They do it every year to raise money for breast cancer awareness, breast cancer research.
Got it.
Yeah.
Maga Kanye. i don't yeah okay
not working for me not working not working in general no need for it but thank you thank you
for your thank you for your effort the taylor swift inspired halloween decorations uh halloween
costumes are huge this year going to be huge
have been huge
I am not going to get those
or at least I'm going to need
I'm going to ask my wife
and she'll say yeah that's Taylor Swift
oh right right nice Taylor Swift costume
unless she is with
Travis Kelsey in which case
you have no idea
I'm out
their jerseys were selling out the Kelsey jerseys are selling out with Travis Kelsey, in which case you have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. I'm out there. I mean,
their jerseys were selling out.
They got,
I've seen a lot.
These are selling out as Halloween decorations.
They're like that.
And I'll throw it away once they break up.
Yeah,
exactly.
That's gotta be such a boost for the chiefs.
They're like,
I don't even,
who cares how long this relationship lasts?
Like we can't even keep the jerseys on the shelf,
even if it's one year.
Yeah. We're doing great. We're doing great we're doing great i know um that i mean some people are like is it a distraction for him but he performs better when she's in the stadium so that's all i
is that like oh is that borne out in the statistics it's borne out in the statistics it's born out in the statistics man oh hell yeah we all just need a fucking tay
in our life to to get us to fucking perform at our highest level so good for them good for them
catch that ball man catch that ball and block or whatever is he a tight end or some shit
yes he's a tight end yeah do it catches the ball blocks throws the nice big blocks. All right. Love to see that.
Love to see that.
But yeah, like one of these TikToks with a Kelsey Taylor Swift pairing of costumes is like,
POV, you find the best decorated house for Halloween in the neighborhood.
And I don't know what any of this shit means.
Like, I don't.
Yeah.
Kelsey on a skeleton torso, like seemingly kneeling before taylor swift like a
proposing and then those are her exes jake from state farm okay yeah fuck fuck jake from state
farm they were dating for a while jake gyllenhaal that's's Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, right. Come on, Jack. You know what? I was looking for Pete
because I was confusing Taylor Swift
with Ariana Grande. Don't admit it.
Don't admit it out loud.
Oh my god, my career's
over.
And that was the last podcast
he ever recorded.
They've covered a lot of controversial
topics, but it was when Jack ultimately
confused Ariana Grande and Taylor Swift that
the show's downfall was sealed.
And rightly so.
Yeah.
And finally,
the takeout has a nice article to make you grateful this Halloween that you
live now and not in history,
which is a nightmare that we're all waking up from.
So they just went through like,
what were the cool candies that people were giving out?
First of all,
trick-or-treating didn't really become popular
until the 1950s.
I didn't even realize that.
They were pointing out that like the phrase first,
trick-or-treat first emerged around 1939.
Like they can find.
But yeah,
it wasn't until the 50s till people started i guess it became a
full-on national thing apparently yeah but so the the popular halloween candies in the 1920s
orange gumdrops orange jelly beans orange buttercups okay and chips and hard candies
and there were black licorice gumdrops and jelly beans and buttons and all possible devices that
were ever seen in black candies so they kept it on on brand with the black and orange everything
yeah but black black candy black licorice is fucking disgusting i'm sorry i hate that anise
flavor yeah 50s they kind of like caught it up to candy corn hershey's kisses hershey's miniatures
jordan almonds are those the covered ones yeah they're like candy i think they're like a maroonish
candy around the almond um spiced jelly drops of course ah yes chocolate bridge mix ah my favorite is that like that bar mix that like with the chips and
the pretzels and all that shit but just covered in chocolate bridge mix looks like a bunch of
like raisinets and shit i think it's just basically chocolate covered nuts and chocolate
covered trail mix basically yeah yeah okay i don't know why it's a bridge again that feels
just like so old school
someone please tell me why because that's what people people just played bridge all day long
bring me my bridge mix for my bridge game uh and then in the 60s we got uh you know caught up and
people were like i can't believe the variety of candy is available at your local retailer.
Yeah, this one is amazing.
From this article, this Chicago Daily Tribune from 1962, Lois Baker. Never before, it seems to us, have the food stores been stocked with so many varieties and such novel packages of candies, cookies and chewing gum and other goodies designed to provide you with simple loot for those little
trick-or-treaters who will soon be making their halloween expeditions this is the part that bums
me out she highlights what she thinks is the coolest thing quote a cellophane bag filled with
14 miniature boxes of plump sun-made raisins wow although these we think should really delight the junior set
they also are ideal as snacks at any time of the year for young or old no the they are
aren't or are just no what i mean is no to raisins okay no raisins as a thing given out at halloween
probably not maybe like maybe that was cool back then maybe they still get
but think back right my my earliest memories of getting sun those miniature sun-made raisin boxes
were from like elderly neighbors yeah where they're like this old they're like oh you're
gonna fucking your little wig's gonna blow off, Einstein, when you taste
these fucking shits.
And so
heartbreaking that
that's what they thought our reaction was
gonna be. And instead I was like
what the fuck is this, old man?
Yeah, like, well we're TPing the fuck
out of your house later.
And we regret it.
Anyways, happy Halloween, everyone. Happy Halloween to you, Miles. Happy Halloween to later. And we regret it. We regret it. Anyways, happy Halloween, everyone.
Happy Halloween to you, Miles.
Happy Halloween to you.
And all.
And all.
And to all a spooky night.
A good fright.
Oh, so good.
That's going to do it for us today.
We're back tomorrow
with the last episode of the show.
Until then,
be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Bye.
Okay, bye-bye.
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Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs?
Hi, I'm Eva Longoria.
Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon.
Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back.
And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite
out of the most delicious food and its history.
Seeing that the most popular cocktail is the margarita,
followed by the mojito from Cuba,
and the piƱa colada from Puerto Rico.
Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hi, I am Lacey Lamar.
And I'm also Lacey Lamar.
Just kidding.
I'm Amber Ruffin.
Okay, everybody.
We have exciting news to share.
We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber Show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network.
This season, we make new friends, deep dive into my steamy DMs,
answer your listener questions, and more. The more is punch each other. Listen to the Amber and Lacey
Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, okay? Or Lacey gets it. Do it.
In California during the summer of 1975,
within the span of 17 days
and less than 90 miles,
two women did something
no other woman had done before,
try to assassinate
the President of the United States.
One was the protege
of Charles Manson.
26-year-old Lynette Fromm,
nicknamed Squeaky.
The other,
a middle-aged housewife
working undercover for the FBI.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current.
Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus, only on Apple Podcasts.