The Daily Zeitgeist - The Divine Zeit of Kings 7/26: Merrick Garland, OANN, TikTok, Monkeypox, Instagram, Aaron Rodgers

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

In this edition of The Divine Zeit of Kings, Jack and Miles discuss Merrick Garland being open to prosecuting Trump, OANN getting dumped by Verizon, TikTok's Sloppy Sandwich Guy, the U.S. being #1... ...in Monkeypox, why people are tired of Instagram, and Aaron Rodgers' Con-Air cosplay!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties
Starting point is 00:00:12 you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:00:56 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
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Starting point is 00:01:35 the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The Divine Zeit of Kings, courtesy of Johnny Davis, at JohnnyDevi5 on Twitter, blessing us with the short show title. I'm Jack. That over there, well, that's Miles Gray. Hi, Miles. Hey. How are you doing? Good. Check me out on Behind the Bastards today, where you can hear part one of Robert and I talking about Clarence Thomas.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Why don't you guys just get married then? I mean, Jack, if you listen to episode four, you might get a little salty. By part four, Robert and I are fully just ideating new shows, new cool handshakes, new outfits we can wear. Dude, wear a Dodger hat. hat yeah we're both wearing dodger hats yeah so in your face robert like see you wear a dodger's hat um all right that would actually be the most jarring thing i think robert wearing a dot i would be like what yeah but what happened bro and like are you Do you need help?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Nothing. Everything's good. Everything's good, friendo. Let's go to see the baseball match. The Dodgers are my favorite squad run. One of the most unapologetically sports... Just doesn't know anything about sports. But is not annoying about it. It's not like, sports ball time? ball time but he just he's always like yes of course damn um all right well miles yeah uh
Starting point is 00:03:34 here's some things that are trending a uh garland has said he's open to prosecuting uh donald trump who used to be our president you remember that you've seen this um and uh the the big headlines on drudge garland open to prosecuting trump georgia danger um so i don't know i guess people are thinking maybe there might be consequences in these united states for a rich person this will be the theme for the next fucking year. There might be consequences. I feel like that's the phase we're in in history right now, where there might be consequences. Although everyone seems to agree that the Georgia investigation
Starting point is 00:04:17 seems to put him at the most tangible risk at the moment. Why? Because he blatantly tried to overturn the election yeah and there's like fake electors and like they're like starting to flip too so they're like yeah he like called me and told me i mean like i feel like this is very interesting this is cool this is an interesting idea where you find the electors and isn't he on on a call saying find find me this many votes yeah yeah that yeah. Yeah, it's pretty straightforward. But you never know. You never know.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Anyway, watch this space. OAN. Don't watch that space because you can't anymore. RIP to OAN. Sorry. One American news. You thought you flew too close to to the mega sun with your conspiracy theories and all that and now finally we were touching on this uh like last week saying look man fucking
Starting point is 00:05:13 direct tv said fuck out of here and if they lose again if they lose verizon they are going to be absolutely wiped off the face of like what we know as modern cable television, which is a great thing. So shout outs to, I just want to read what the, one of the anchors said on OAN as like, they're, they're grappling with the idea that their time is like running out on
Starting point is 00:05:35 Verizon. Like I think at the end of the month, uh, he said over the last few years, we've watched this countless independent free thinking and conservative organizations were shut down and censored by the radical left. Regrettably, that toxic cancel culture is still alive and well. And it's coming after one American news.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Beginning July 30th, Verizon has decided it will no longer carry OAN. You can imagine why. Now we've had a lot of questions from our loyal customers. And we want to give you some answers and help you understand what's going on and what to expect in the future. And then they just go on to call verizon like a bunch of marxists which is yep yeah all right yeah verizon they'd already made their decision because verizon like many radical marxist corporations marxist corporation corporation hell yeah okay biden anarchist yeah put them all together like wow geez i'm crow donny
Starting point is 00:06:29 what is that can't even come with the horizon so um yeah they're no more i've always been at&t marxist uh but and found horizon to be much more leninist but i'm much more of a jp morgan marxist jp marxist that's wild uh did did oan like kind of pop up how how long have they been a thing i feel like for like a few years like they really rose to prominence like the last 18 months of the trump campaign like truly truly truly because that's when they were like q anon we fucking love it um but it started in like i think 2013 or something like that yeah um all right and then you wanted to say a fond farewell to sandwich tiktok guy sandwich tiktok guy yeah i this is one of the rare things where you bring it to my attention uh and i don't get it one of the rare things i know look this one
Starting point is 00:07:27 is about tiktok and this is if anybody goes on tiktok and you and the algorithms like hey you like food right because we're spying on you there's this one account of this italian dude who's making sandwiches in this place called i monty latari in uh naples and he's just taking out freshly baked fucking rolls he's making people sandwiches they're super simple but like a lot of time like i was watching because i'm like i've never seen someone just so like inelegantly pile beautiful ingredients into between two pieces of bread or like you know call me i guess uh spoiled in the.S. I'm used to something called sandwich artistry. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And what he's doing is just slamming shit into the bread. Just kind of like, here's your prosciutto. Flop. There's just shit hanging off the sides. It's a mess, man. Just cutting the buffalo mozzarella and squeezing the water out a little bit. Just as if he's wringing out a lemon or something. And the ingredients look good. So I'm like, oh, shit, I would eat the shit out of that,
Starting point is 00:08:28 because I have also learned that like things put together just chaotically don't necessarily mean it doesn't taste good. The ingredients are right, then it'll taste good. But so this was going viral for a while. But the owners of the store, like he announced like a couple of days ago that he's not going to be making TikToks anymore and for people who are bilingual they were able to glean that it sounds like his bosses have become pissed off because there's a bunch of TikTok fucking
Starting point is 00:08:53 tourists pulling up to their like local shop and exactly triple T's T cubed and they're saying it's displacing the regulars so they're like knock it off knock off this tiktok shit and then now well in true american fashion the fans of the tiktok guy are now bombing their like google reviews page with one star reviews being like the fucking owners suck this guy's a fucking gem
Starting point is 00:09:22 um you should have franchised you should have just franchised it fuck your regulars just franchise open 40 locations and have them all be mediocre um speaking of mediocre though man like i don't i feel like you're exclusively watching this guy's videos when you're very hungry because this does i'm not saying i'm like these are the best sandwiches i've ever seen i'm just saying like oh it's different and it like it's always like fresh mozzarella or like other ingredients but i'm also just kind of like man how the fuck is gonna be violating the ingredients like it doesn't feel like you just give a fuck about the sandwich you make and then i'm like and then i look at it as like, oh, that's just a different sandwich philosophy.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Right. All right. Yeah. I mean, part of me suspects that you just pretended that you were into this story so you could say the location of the deli in an Italian accent. Get that little flair. Why would I do that? Why would I do that? Oh, and it's too hard to believe.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I would be dumb fucking high out of my skull looking at TikTok being like, yo, this shitty sandwich look good as fuck. All things can be true. That's true. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
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Starting point is 00:12:33 without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. This summer, the nation
Starting point is 00:13:47 watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent, revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This
Starting point is 00:14:34 is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the United States now leads globally in known monkeypox cases. The headline
Starting point is 00:14:57 known monkeypox cases might be that testing is more up on the game here, but it's not going great. It is, you know, it seems like, I guess the World Health Organization just declared it an international
Starting point is 00:15:13 emergency. They did their monthly meeting. The first one, they were like, I don't know. Let's not get too... We're keeping our eye on it. And then at the last one they're like oh that that went predictably bad let's uh but yeah cases have continued to climb um and the vaccine rollout has uh been again not great and the the way it's being messaged around, you know, the gay and trans community has also not been great.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And like they would not release a picture of what it looked like on, you know, non-white skin for a long time, which is also problematic. But we've seen this before with very homophobic descriptions. Because in the beginning, I felt like the medical community was like, it's only going to affect men who have sex with men. And almost use that logic to silo it as if it's less of a problem. And that's not the mainstream. So don't worry about it. So we're good here, right?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah. And now medical professionals, just to be clear, so don't worry about it so we're good here right yeah and now like you know the like you know medical professionals like just just to be clear this is not considered a sexually transmitted disease that's not i mean like it can happen because like close skin to skin contact is a way to transmit it or being like very up in somebody's face and respiratory droplets can lead to it but this isn't something that means like you are having sex and that's why you're getting it which and initially like i feel like the cdc was like what if you no one had sex or hung out with people as a way to get around the lack of vaccines and now yeah the vaccine rollout has just been like awful uh and like just inconsistent and like we said when we first
Starting point is 00:17:02 talking about this we're already fucking up this major pandemic and now we're dealing with another disease that needs to be addressed quickly and it's just it's not a great not a great example of what we can do here in America Instagram is trending
Starting point is 00:17:19 I don't know why because people hate it right now are you on Instagram a lot? And then you go, what the fuck? Almost never. Okay, that's true. Oh, sorry. That wasn't helpful.
Starting point is 00:17:29 You were going to give an example. The others do know what I'm saying, which is there's so many more reels. They're always trying to push videos on you where half the time you can see a baked-in TikTok watermark into it where people are just merely reposting TikToks on Instagram for views.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And they're trying to do all of these things to look more like TikTok to the point where like you know power users like the Kardashians are like this IG fucking sucks like what the fuck is this and the head of Instagram Adam Mosseri who like he put a video
Starting point is 00:18:02 out and he's basically like look it's gonna suck for a while because we believe the future is fucking video and that's what's kind of interesting to me is I feel like the people the reason people are pushing back is because they like pictures and I get that the market data that informs a lot of decision making for these places is like dude video video video like videos are popping off look tiktok beats y'all to the punch i don't really look at tiktok as social media like i don't look at tiktok as a way i share my personal life like with others that follow me
Starting point is 00:18:38 like on tiktok i look at tiktok to me is like youtube i'm like yo what kind of weird shit can i see on here whereas instagram feels more of like this intimate connection thing and i think as they move towards this like content version it's we're losing something in that like it used to be like the less fucked up version of facebook where i could scroll and then see like some random people from like high school be like oh look they got married or like oh look at this person doing their thing right um and it's yeah it's i think it's just being a bit of it's a hassle for the for the for the picture lovers on instagram well as you know anybody who works at instagram and their parent company meta would know a pivot to video has never gone wrong no so no going all in on video not a problem i mean i feel like they've been that way for a long time
Starting point is 00:19:26 but it's just tiktok came out and was better at it than them yeah and well and it also just goes to show right everything's such a fucking contest and dick measuring contest to be like oh they're fucking tiktok's the newest thing we got to be fucking better than that and yeah and meanwhile people like we don't use instagram for that right like right that we like i don't know again i'm a elder millennial using instagram very specifically or not specifically but like stories were the height of what you could do with video on instagram i think as most people appreciated it and i think the people who are on tiktok were seeking something different so to then be like hey this different thing that you guys aren't that interested in it's this now i don't know if that's the best strategy but what
Starting point is 00:20:10 it's a good compare contrast with the uh sandwich tiktok guys deli you know they saw too much success i saw success and we're like knock it off because you're making it awkward around here um instagram saw so you know tiktok's success and we're like we have to imitate it like and now right that sandwich tiktok guys deli if they were smart would have launched their own social media platform uh just you know where people can upload videos of sloppy sandos and sloppy steaks oh come on tim robinson bring us a new social media platform just call sloppy meals and people just post their slop meals okay free idea again yeah i don't view tiktok as a social media platform i view it as a babysitter exclusively and i just let the kids uh frictionlessly slide down the content hole exactly um. And it usually, you know, I'd say like 30%
Starting point is 00:21:06 of the time it's pretty much appropriate. Yeah. Then the other 66.67% of the time it ends up going to Nazi stuff. Yeah. Like TikTok does. But whatever. Kids are into that stuff. Why? I don't know. My kids are on this damn Nazi stuff. Kids are really into
Starting point is 00:21:22 like Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy sites that think Obama did it. And then finally, Aaron Rodgers showed up to Packers training camp. He's the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Won the MVP last year. And he showed up in cosplay as Nicolas Cage's character in Con Air. just a white tank top with long greased back hair, five days growth, jeans. And I do want to put this out there, not Aaron Rodgers. I only go to him to watch a beautifully thrown football and the occasional medical advice but i do think it's kind of a fun idea to cosplay as somebody who like a character but it's not it's not clear if that's what you're doing but like it's it's not
Starting point is 00:22:20 totally clear right right what's your what the vibe you're going for? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But anyways, Aaron Rodgers, fashion icon, and the person who would be in charge of our vaccine response if I had my way, you know, Fauci. Hey, I mean, don't worry. When are you going to retire? Fauci's going to get his time in the hopper. That's the big thing I think Republicans are already talking about.
Starting point is 00:22:43 They're like, wait till we get in office. We're going to get Fauci up here. It's like, move on. Find a fucking new angle, please. It's a normal collar. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday, July 26th. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Oh, by the way, I just got my second booster yesterday courtesy of super producer Ana Hosnier who turned me on to a place where they had an abundance.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And I got to just show up. The way you said that, I was like, hold on. Shout out to who turned me on to this place. I'm like, was it a medical facility like well yeah anybody in the la area burbank uh the burbank airport there's a dude in the parking garage who is just giving this shit out uh he says first taste for free and then you know which is all you need i think and which is bad makes you feel great. I didn't sleep last night.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Yeah, and he just has to tap into a vein and he shoots it up for you. Yeah. I felt pretty good. I felt like a bunch of warmth came over my body from that booster. I was alluding to the speed shots from Mad Men, but yeah. Oh, I haven't seen Mad Men. At one point, there's just an episode where they go into the office and they have a doctor there who's giving everyone amphetamine shots and they don't know what amphetamines
Starting point is 00:24:10 are. They're just like cranking. They're like, hey, can I get another one of those pep injections? I love that when it was just called pep whatever. It'd be like amphetamine shots. Pep pills. So yeah, get the vaccine if you're in the LA area. Check out Burbank. Not open
Starting point is 00:24:26 on Wednesdays. And it's only like 7 to 3. But Thursday, Friday, highly recommend. And don't do nothing about white supremacy. We will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:44 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:26:21 Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast
Starting point is 00:26:37 Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.

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