The Daily Zeitgeist - The Great Crime Panic (Is A Lie), It’s Uh Me Mario?? 10.11.22

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

In episode 1348, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of Y'all Gay, Ever Mainard, to discuss…  Crime is So Out of Control that the Data Can’t Even F**king Prove It! The Internet Nail...ed The Chris Pratt Mario Voice Complaint and more! Crime is So Out of Control that the Data Can’t Even F**king Prove It! Myths and Realities: Understanding Recent Trends in Violent Crime The Internet Nailed The Chris Pratt Mario Voice Complaint LISTEN: Bahouche by Amaria HamadalherSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties
Starting point is 00:00:12 you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:00:56 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
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Starting point is 00:01:52 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 258, episode one of Dirt Daily's iGuy Stay, production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Tuesday, October 11th, 2022. It's, I'm sorry, October 11th. It's World Sight Day, National Coming Out Day, National Sausage Pizza Day, and someone's Memorial Day, but I will keep it to those topics. sorry october 11th it's world sight day national coming out day national sausage pizza day and
Starting point is 00:02:26 some someone's memorial day but i will keep it to those topics so okay shout out to those there you go yeah national sight day is that just world sight day i think it's maybe just to focus on your vision health and be aware you know what mean? Just drive awareness concerning vision care around the globe. Good idea. Get your eyes tested. Get your kids' eyes tested early. I might do it just so I can feel like I'm a fucking G and be like, y'all got a harder one? What do you see on the
Starting point is 00:02:57 top line? What do you see on the bottom line there? You mean this room or the one three rooms down? Because I can actually see through walls now. See through the walls because the walls because sorry they're like anyways my name is jack o'brien aka first match was a catfish second called me trash third match was a federal agent on my ass downloaded the right stuff baby now cops are blowing up my phone downloaded the right stuff, baby. Now cops are blowing up my phone. Downloaded the right stuff, baby. The FBI is at my home.
Starting point is 00:03:32 That is courtesy of Chris Yamaguchi, man. A little right stuff by NKOTB. Back when they were called the new kids. Yeah. Y'all remember that. The nukes. The nukes. We all got the nukes the nukes we all got the nukes on our mind and by that i mean of course the new kids on the block and how
Starting point is 00:03:51 come donnie's brother isn't in the group mark to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray miles gray aka my apartment Cage is invented enough. The smell is making me fall apart. Nothing I can do. It totally reeks of my farts. Okay, shout out to At Right to Post because we're talking about those tiny little apartment pods. And my first concern was what about the farts what are we doing that's such a perfect fit that i think i'm gonna have a hard time hearing
Starting point is 00:04:30 totally reeks of my fart oh yeah that's from now on that's in my head honestly i yeah thank you for bringing that up because that's actually that's probably the most underrated thing about this aka is that you've created truly a great just fake line for when you see say totally clips of the heart especially around a six-year-old they will appreciate a hell of a that 37 year old 38 how old am i i don't know a six-year-old sense of humor miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zyte Moore, a hilarious and acclaimed comedian, actor, podcast host, who you can hear on
Starting point is 00:05:10 the podcast Y'all Gay with Allie and Ever. It's one of your favorite guests, one of our favorite guests, the brilliant and talented Ever Maynard! I was pissed y'all were going to bring me up after that fart song. Come on! That fart song rules.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Oh, do you hate, are you anti-fart? Is that the deal? No, I was like, man, don't bring me up next to farts, man. Oh, I'm sorry. Because it's so funny that you just like don't. Also. I can't follow that. This is indeed October 11th.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah, indeed. And National Coming Out Day. Fitting you have a dyke. I'm hosting the Reverie Queer X Awards today. Nice. You can catch that on Reverie TV. Amazing. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to dunk on y'all. I'm in a dunk
Starting point is 00:05:56 mood right now. No, you should. You say clear the runway because I'm fucking ready for takeoff. Yeah, we're farting off today. I'm riled up y'all i i can't wait i just did leg day oh shit i just did leg day and i just okay we'll get into it but i just did leg day as a it's a great way to let people know they're in a lot of trouble right now don't fuck with me i just did leg day i just did leg day i took a lot of pre-workout yeah
Starting point is 00:06:23 motherfucker i just did leg day i can hoist you over. I took a lot of pre-workout. Motherfucker, I just did leg day. I can hoist you over my head right now. I'm not kidding. I'm sorry. You want me to use a cart in this fucking grocery store? I'm using my reusable bag instead of a cart. And now you're telling me, okay, so you really want to. I just did leg day because we can get down in this produce section. I just did leg day.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Get upset with me. Try me. Have y'all ever taken a pre-workout? Yes. So you know how when you take too much like your face tingles dude i very i had a very short run of pre-workout and like using protein shakes and shit because it wrecked me either gastrointestinally or psychologically where i was like i'm emotionally wrecked and I'm ready for it. So I think I'm making bad decisions. I was like, I can handle this.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah. It's pre-workout. It's not just caffeine. It's like BCAAs. Okay. I don't know what it is, but I'll tell you what. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I mean, that's what it felt like. When I started using it, it was because my homeboy was like doing a lot of Muay Thai shit. And he's like, yo, this is what they take. You should try this. And I was like, OK.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Like not knowing what the fuck I was doing. And then I was just like, yo, is my heart in just my. I feel like I could feel my blood circulating with every heartbeat. Feel every drop of the blood inside my body. Seriously. I've become one with my blood. I'm like, yeah, I'm ready to podcast. I'm like, yeah, I'm ready to podcast. I was like, why am I being so aggressive today?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Oh, did you take a pre-workout right before you started recording? I took it right before leg day. My body is jacked. My body is so confused. I'm also excited to tell you about my search history. Amazing. I don't know if we want to get into that right now.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I'm ready. We're ready. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about crime stats and just the bullshittedness of the whole narrative around crime being out of control in the U.S. right now. We might even get into a couple stories of the police being incredibly bad at their job. Which is why they need those terrible crime stats to offset the objectively horrific performance of police everywhere. That's exactly right. The two sides of policing in the U.S. And then I think we might have to talk about Mario's voice. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:40 We'll see. But it's a mess. We also have a thing about man-made minerals showing up on Earth before man made them. But yeah, we'll probably just go to Mario because the other one makes me feel cosmically insignificant. And Mario makes me feel like the center of attention. They took away his butt. They took away his butt and wait till you hear his voice. Anyways, before we get to any of that bullshit ever, I'm getting aggressive with you.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Before we get to any of that fucking bullshit, let's find out what's something from your search history. I'm so sorry. I came in too hot. This is my version of coming in too hot. Any of that shit? I'm really, listeners, I'm so sorry. Listen,
Starting point is 00:09:25 you might have seen, it's been a meme on the internet now about a woman talking about how Hocus Pocus can cast spells through your TV.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Okay, I saw this. I saw the reaction videos where like a funny comedian was doing it and I was like, oh, this is a good character.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I did not know it was based on a real thing. Not only is this a real thing, but this is my homophobic brother's best friend and his wife's best friend. And they're friends with her husband who's a cop.
Starting point is 00:09:59 So I'm like, wow. So can we roll that beautiful bean footage? I don't know if we're able to play the audio on this. Yeah, I mean, I was when you told me when you told me about this, I was like, I definitely saw the headline about like Christian mom says Hocus Pocus 2 will unleash hell upon your family. And I was like, what? And then promotes. OK, here it goes. So you so here we go here. This is the clip from local news. So, here we go. This is the clip from local news, KWTX.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And this is their local story about this. And I think this is where the anchors just said, a local mom is scared shitless. Oh, yeah. With the mother who got emotional over her concerns for other families and the media they're consuming. This woman is incredibly homophobic. A worst case scenario is that you unleash hell on your kids and in your home. Jamie Gooch is a mother of three and the owner of Gooch Family Farms in Troy. You got Gooched. I love everything to do with house and home.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I believe everything starts here. Like that section of Target? Wait till the package. There's going to be an American flag. There's got to be. It's heavily celebrated in their household, but Halloween is not. It grieves me. Yeah, picking her fingers.
Starting point is 00:11:11 To darkness. Gooch says there's a spiritual war being waged against homes in America, and Hollywood is part of the problem. This is the worst B-roll I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, the B-roll is two stripes of the american flag yeah it's such a tight shot on the flag you're like am i looking at a broken barber pole and they're doing a fade back into her yeah crossed us off we love it the whole movie is based on witches harvesting children for blood sacrifices in a recent okay right so they all the all the fictional stuff since the first Hocus Pocus, all the fictional. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Can we go back to that screen? Yeah. Do you want me to read the Facebook post? Yeah, go back to that screen because I've never noticed this. They briefly show this woman's post. I want to see what the other tabs are open. Outlook, Google, Amazon. Oh, wait, where wait look at the top see no no those are miles that's mine okay i thought i was like hang on i want to see what these newscasts are looking
Starting point is 00:12:14 you want to see air table where we run all of our ad spots porn oh shit i better submit this ad whoopsie thanks for reminding me i was like oh my god we're looking into mother jones this is so unexpected but honestly i was like when i try to explain my brother and the way he like talks and things she just did it for me and now it's all over the internet and i feel like i know a celebrity and i'm a little pissed that I'm not a celebrity. Well, you're well, you will have much more meaningful celebrity than the person who gets to fill like the one of the local story slots in a panic for the local news producer. It's viral now, baby. Well, yeah, it fits.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I mean, because right now I think this is the easiest thing to get like, you know, if you want to shoot yourself into the celebrity sphere on the right wing, just be a concerned Christian and find like the wildest take and say it with a serious face. And they're like, you'll get get them on camera. Get them on camera. The speed with which she went to and the ease with which she was in blood sacrifices is I couldn't believe she said those words blood sacrifice. Yeah, that is they are now fully steeped in the satanic panic thing again they really think that's what we're up to out here in california they yeah they they're just
Starting point is 00:13:33 completely bought in on it would be like if suddenly an entire swath of the country was like you know just thought vampires were real thought thought that you know liberals were all vampires which you know i guess that they probably suck in blood baby yeah we're out here we're out here we're out here getting wet look at that with our straw things look at that face she's in shock she's got that whole hobby lobby vibe too oh yeah man well you know what i mean look as much as we sit and make fun we do need people that are looking out for our salvation you know so don't don't unleash hell into your home as this person is fucking warning focus too yeah local homophobe it's like are you a fucking like are you some kind of scientist are you a fucking scientist
Starting point is 00:14:25 why are we listening to you because your take is satan gonna come at your tv if you put on disney plus i need to know who at kcn tv 10 was like this is newsworthy yeah was it in earnest or was it ironic i guess if if the headline of the story had been people believe in witches, like adult people, look at this. Right. Then that would have made sense. But they really treated it like they really took her talking points seriously in the story and was like, and she thinks Hollywood is like corrupting and showed B-roll of an american flag as they did it i will say in 2016 and in 2020 um when i was visiting home those news anchors were wearing red ties and red caps during election season wow okay oh yeah i mean so we get it it all clocks out i'll just say like every time that
Starting point is 00:15:23 the news could be objective and be like, and this is all cap. This is nonsense. They're like, she believes like, you know, like the very soft, both sides of this, like objectively. Right. If you're going to write a story about how a person says, save your fucking kids from Hocus Pocus, too. You'd probably want to balance that out to be like, obviously there's no evidence that anything like this could ever fucking happen, but I guess I would be an affront to God himself. But they said, they qualified everything as she believes there's a spiritual
Starting point is 00:15:55 war being waged against homes in America. And then a bunch of her quotes. And then it said, while some have called her quote crazy or worse, Gooch says much of the feedback has been positive. So, like, they'll always pivot to be like, yeah, man, the normal thing is like, what the fuck is this fool talking about? But she said it's pretty chill. Right. And there is one point I just want to say that she has witnessed stuff happen. She has witnessed Satan manifest in her home. Oh, when her dad, when her husband gets off his shift. For sure.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, for sure. It's witch season. There's another side to the witch season coin. After Brandy came on, I mentioned it last week, Brandy Posey came on talking about her 12-foot skeleton, mentioned that there was a 12-foot witch
Starting point is 00:16:43 decoration that you could go get went out and got it put it put it up in my front lawn and the amount of foot traffic and like cars stopping to take selfies with this witch decoration like it is the most rewarding thing i've ever done in my life oh you're fucking you're you're breaking necks out there yeah like everybody's stopping. Cars are being like, whoa, look at that. I heard a kid just shout from his car window, Dad, look, Halloween.
Starting point is 00:17:14 That's cool. You're bringing that joy. You better see some subversive quotes on that so when people take pictures, they're like, Google, again, Google. What are these coordinates? Google Maps. Anyways, it's witch L.A. What are these coordinates? Google Maps. Yeah. Anyways, it's witch season.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. And I love that it's scaring this maniac. Also, shout out to KWTX. They wrapped this article up with, KWTX reached out to Disney's publicist for the movie, but has not yet heard back. That what? They didn't get comment?
Starting point is 00:17:42 That what? That fucking demons are going to come out of your fucking TV because you watched Bette Midler, Kathy Najimy, and Sarah Jessica Parker put on a performance of... Hocus Pocus 2? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Whatever is something you think is overrated. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Whatever is something... I sounded like i was from texas like fancy spicy chili peppers that like sauce like hot sauce that comes in like really trendy jars like chili pepper stuff made by white people that are sold in like boutiques. I don't know how to explain it. I went to a little gift store and there were chili paste. You know, like the jars of chili pepper sauce. Chili oil. It was clear.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Maybe it's not made by white people. It felt like they were appropriating spice culture. And they were selling it for $20. I was like, this isating spice culture. Yeah. And they were selling it for 20 bucks. I was like, this is not $20. $20? $20.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. Damn. Yeah. And the label looks like it was inspired by a Taylor Swift Cottagecore-era album cover. No, I went to RISD. That's why I have good design sense. What's RISD? Rhode Island School of Design. Oh, is that a big deal? cover no i went to risd that's how i know that's why i have good design sense because i went to proper school rhode island school of design oh is that a big deal i i just i evoke it because of uh
Starting point is 00:19:12 wedding crashers oh risd uh that's what owen wilson says to the brother who went to risd uh and i know somebody who actually went there too so i don't know are they talented or what yeah yeah i mean like it's not a bullshit. So it's like a known thing. It's like. Yeah. I feel like you got to you got to you got to have skills, you know, or maybe an art center or Cal Arts for other people who are more interested. But yeah, I can.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I definitely like when you see a mismatch, because like when I see hot sauce, I want it to almost be like written on tape and then slapped on the bottom. I'm selling this for like five bucks, man. Yeah. The hottest shit I've ever made. I'm like, yeah'm like yeah great great i don't want it to be sweet i want it to be hot yeah oh yeah oh yeah that is the one place i don't mind the nascar aesthetic like if it looks like it was designed by somebody at a nascar yeah oh man speaking of nascar yeah what there's a new barbecue spot there's a new barbecue spot. There's a new barbecue spot? Where?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Well, I'm riled up. Okay. I know. You just did your pre-workout and hit leg day. In a parking lot today, there's a guy smoking like chorizo and other sausages and ribs. And I passed it on the way home from the gym and I'm like, I'm getting riled up. It's bulk day. I'm so sorry, everyone. We're bulking up. I'm so, I'm getting... It's bulk day. It's bulk day. I'm so sorry, everyone.
Starting point is 00:20:25 We're bulking up. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I'm actually... I do want to gain 10 pounds of muscle between now and January 1st. Okay. So when I say leg day, I fucking mean it.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah, you mean that. When I say leg day, I'm saying... I don't know if you quite understand what leg day signifies in this context. You think I can walk out of the gym? Tear me out of that shit. I just like hobble. I'm like limping.
Starting point is 00:20:50 A wheelbarrow. They're like, you should really maybe work with a trainer. Your form is really going to contribute. I've got something to prove. You're like,
Starting point is 00:20:58 okay. Your back brace is, you're using it as a leg brace? Oh, that's what it's for? All right. Just Arnica all over my body. Yeah, get into an Arnica gel bath. What is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:21:14 Duke's mayonnaise. Straight up. Keeps coming up. I will say I had Duke's mayonnaise for the first time months ago. And I used to never like mayonnaise. It's changed my life. I think this was your underrated last time. And OK, well, I think that's fine because we forgot. I've not I've I've not forgotten since you've said that or whenever it came up and like a coward, have not bought it yet because i think now they're fully reaching like national distribution because it used to be like a east coast southeast thing
Starting point is 00:21:52 right i think so yeah or at least i hear people who are like was it maybe yamaguchi main was like oh we know that shit in like north carolina oh it's from it's from south carolina okay makes sense so dues is it. You know what? I'm going to buy a Dukes. I'm going to buy Dukes merch. There it is. I'm making poor decisions today. And I cannot take pre-workout again.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Especially before a podcast. This was a mistake. I love this energy. If it's a mistake, keep making it. Your new pre-workout, it's like, yep, got to get these calves greased up with some Duke's mayonnaise before I start doing some leg lifts. I'm just like, that's my protein intake during the workout. They're like, find me something with just pure fat like this. What the fuck are you looking at, man?
Starting point is 00:22:43 What the fuck are you looking at? Oh, is this your fucking first time seeing somebody work out at the gym? Fuck you. Your first time at the gym? Motherfucker. Are you going to set out? Are you going to rotate out or what? Let's go. Go ahead. Set up your fucking ring light
Starting point is 00:22:59 and videotape yourself, motherfucker. Some of us are trying to work in here. Oh, am I in your shot? Oh, I'm in your fucking shot. Oh, I'm sorry. Am I eating a bunch of mayonnaise with a wooden spoon? Ruined your content, quote-unquote. Pure protein.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They're like, no, it isn't. I'm sorry. It is not. What part of it do you think is protein? Oh, eggs. Eggs. Eggs. It's like egg sauce.
Starting point is 00:23:28 What are you putting Duke's on these days? Honestly, I started, my friend put it on a hatch chili pepper hamburger. It was so good. Now I've been making, it's called like gaochang sauce. It's a chili pepper sauce. I might be butchering the name. Is it Korean? You mean gochujang?
Starting point is 00:23:49 No, it's red. It's a red. It's usually found like in like, I buy it in Little Tokyo at the Little Tokyo Market. Yeah. Yeah, I think that is Korean chili pepper sauce. That's gochujang. Yeah. Gochujang. Yeah, go Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I think that is Korean chili pepper sauce. That's gochujang, yeah. Gochujang. Yeah, gochujang, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:09 So you make all the gochujang mayo? Oh. No. What I do is I make like a meal. I put a little butter in it so it gets to be a sauce. Cook Brussels sprouts or like steak or whatever I want in it. And then I add a little mayo on top. So it's, yeah, sort of like that. Wow. That sounds good. And then I add a little mayo on top. So it's sort of like that.
Starting point is 00:24:26 But it's pretty nice. It has a little creamy texture to it. And then protein powder, pre-workout mayonnaise. Sprinkle the protein powder over it. Get your Vitamix. Get a Vitamix. Dump a
Starting point is 00:24:42 32-ounce jar of Duke's in there plus your protein. And and ladies I'm single talk about farts they're like ever babe can we eat something else tonight oh my goodness when I said I was gaining 10 pounds of muscle I fucking meant it
Starting point is 00:25:01 I'm in my bulk stage bulk season uh okay all right i this is this is important because you know we we've said it here before like you need to you need to tell people multiple times and i think we you need to keep telling us about dukes and yeah before the next time you're on i'm going to have a jar of Duke's positive barrel. You know, another thing to do, I'm going to say another form of self-care, buy yourself flowers. Oh, that's nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Wow. What kind of flowers? Like ones that can last for a minute? I bought like ones that were like less bloomy. That's exactly right. You have to remember to change the water. You don't need plant food. You just change the water. That's true. food you just change the water that's true that okay damn oh wow the chocolate cake duke's chocolate cake
Starting point is 00:25:51 what would they be making the cake with the fucking mayonnaise are you serious please just end me now lord let me eat this in no peace all right let's let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll talk crime stats. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
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Starting point is 00:28:03 these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:28:36 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
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Starting point is 00:30:31 one of y'all had to have fucked around and found out about this please let me know if it was fantastic okay I'm sorry back to real life back to crime not real life though actually because you know this is on the list with kids using litter boxes like what what else is on there like the stuff hocus pocus casting a spell on your family libraries being the energetic
Starting point is 00:30:54 conduit for satanic energy transfer yeah fentanyl dusted halloween candy although i love those tweets where people like guys you gotta check your've got to check your kid's candy. And that shit post format now, it's like, I looked into my kid's Snickers and it was Thursday night football. But yeah, this seems to be one of the more potent ones. One of the ones that I see getting taken the most seriously is that crime's out of control in American cities. The stats are there. Yeah. Are they are there. Yeah. Are they? No.
Starting point is 00:31:28 No, Miles, they're not, actually. Wait, hold on. Are they, though? Well, that's the thing. I mean, this has been a very potent tool for conservatives for decades, being like, fucking crime! Because most people don't know their neighbors or whatever, and it's easier to just believe shit on TV and be like,
Starting point is 00:31:43 yes, the world is just unfathomably cruel and unusual. And I think a lot of it, too, especially in the last few years, is especially a backlash to the summer of 2020 when the police had a big coming out party for non-marginalized America, who was very well aware of what the police were like and revealed themselves even further to be an overtly violent group with military hand-me-downs and if yeah people talk about defunding the police then the logic of the right has always been well that means total societal collapse where thugs run cities and you'll get your achilles tendon slashed underneath your mercedes because somebody put a little lulu lemon bag under your front tire that's a reference to that tiktok video i don't know if you saw it but that one where the woman's like you got to be careful zip tie on your
Starting point is 00:32:29 on your door handle that means they've been spotting you a napkin in your door handle it's been drugged you your hand could go numb it's the most it's wild who's doing this it's the 80s all over again these are stories that were on the news in the 80s, like local news stories. The Achilles heel slash is old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so old. I've never heard of this. Oh, yeah. Well, this has been like a huge deal. I hate to derail it. And it's back on TikTok? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Who's getting their Achilles heel slashed? This is like a thing from the 80s. Let's talk about this. Who's fitting under a car these days? I don't know. I don't know. Who is. Who's fitting under a car these days? I don't know. I don't know. Who is able to slither under a car like that? Just the logic. So one of these that I saw because former guests, Jason Parge, was talking about it on TikTok was they have these videos where people are like, look, I found the zip tie on my car door handle. And that means that they have marked me
Starting point is 00:33:26 i just want to like understand the logic like the story in their head is that are they like they can't keep track of all the people they've decided to murder because and so they need to leave a zip tie to be like oh right right that's like a bookmark for murder it's because these people have no they're so true crime-brained that the most complex thought they can say is that traffickers and abductors work in the same way as, like, parking enforcement. Like, where they chalk to your tire.
Starting point is 00:33:55 They're like, and the other one comes through and they chalk your tire to know you've been there for two hours or you're alone. And then the other group, they're constantly roving together. I don't know. But we digress. All that to say is there's plenty of material out there in the world to help you feel completely unsafe and things that the fucking walls are caving in and we talk all the time too about
Starting point is 00:34:16 just how journalists like open mouth and just quote-unquote crime statistics like yeah i mean we just saw that in kcn tv yeah no questions asked straight faces telling that story with an american flag on the screen right in la and new york we see this a lot like especially the new york times la times they love coming out with a like cops can barely hang on with all these crime waves cow Cowabunga, dude. But the fucking statistics don't add up at all. Yeah. Murders rose in cities like during 2020, during the pandemic. I think people were like, well, it's a pandemic.
Starting point is 00:34:56 We're in lockdown. Murders shouldn't be going up. It must be the other big news story, you know, the defund the police and Democrats. But unfortunately for that thesis, murders rose in cities nationwide and jurisdictions of all types. So relative to 2019, the number of murders jumped by more than 30 percent in the largest cities and by 20 percent in places designated by the FBI suburbs. But they were up in rural areas. They were up everywhere. Like just, it did.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And they were up in cities run by Republicans just as much as cities run by Democrats. So the, the whole idea that like they were up because democratic city leaders like defunded the police is just completely like, there's just nothing to that at all. Well, yeah. A family of four was just murdered in my hometown right yeah i mean it's happening yeah it's happening everywhere yeah i mean and i think i'm on pre-workout i should not have said that so aggressively but it's a matter
Starting point is 00:35:59 of fact crimes happening everywhere it is but and the thing is right like we even when you compare those homicide rates they're not they're not even close to what it was in the 90s right and also in that same time overall crime fucking decreased yeah okay so then you say fine 2020 may be an anomaly whatever what about 2021 what about 2022 well here's a fun fact the fbi publishes these crime stats every fall from like data that they source from local law enforcement agencies like sheriff's departments, police departments, et cetera. And when collecting data for 2021, the FBI, they're saying like, yo, for this year, we're doing something different. We wanted to use a new system so we can get even more detailed data
Starting point is 00:36:39 so we can properly like analyze trends or whatever. However, a lot of the localities haven't switched over to this new system yet. This is from this Mother Jones article. I want to read you that they're saying, quote, as a result, the feds only gathered information from law enforcement agencies representing just 65% of the U.S. population compared with around 95% in prior years, rendering the latest estimates pretty meaningless. In most instances, the FBI wrote in a summary published this week, quote, the data do not meet the criteria for statistical significance. New York City and Los Angeles, the two biggest cities by population, were among those
Starting point is 00:37:15 that didn't submit their information to the feds, according to the Marshall Project. Neither did most agencies in California, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Florida, some of the most populous states. It's almost like they are covering something up so that they can continue a bullshit narrative that serves their needs. Yeah, or at the very least, right? It sounds like incomplete data. It sounds like a statistical blind spot. If you want to go around waving shit in the air and be like, it's a fucking crime wave. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Well, fucking pull up with facts. Don't just pull up with fucking sentiment that someone is feeding you because they feel that their budgets are under threat because they don't know how to treat people humanely. Yeah. And I don't know. I just want to play this ad. Right. This is from the New York governors. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:04 What do you say? Okay. Okay. I don't know. I just want to play this ad, right? This is from the New York governor's. Sorry, what did you say? I said, OK. OK. Play that. That's that's what we need. Let me play this ad, though, from the New York governor's race. Lee Zeldin is out here painting the wildest pictures of New York as he runs against Governor Hochul. And I'm just going to play this right now. So you can kind of get an idea of how aggressive the fucking like rhetoric and visuals are to to seed in people's minds that they live in this fucked up hellscape. And so this ad is called Take Back Our Streets. And under the narration, you're going to basically
Starting point is 00:38:42 what's playing is like violent, terrible crimes like on like CCTV cameras happening. There's no question that the sphere of crime is real. There's an old guy getting knocked out. There's a shooting in the street. You're looking at actual violent crimes caught on camera in Kathy Hochul's New York. And it's getting much worse on Kathy Hochul's watch. On November 8th, vote like your life depends on it. People fucking looting and shit.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Lee Zeldin for governor. Because it's time our families feel safe again. Okay, some of this stuff was clearly staged, but some of it was incredible to see just the KOs. Dude, the first one, they start off with this old dude just getting fucking knocked out.
Starting point is 00:39:29 You're like, fucking whack, huh? Some of that footage looks so old. Yeah. So you look at that clip and you go, holy shit. Like that was straight up. These people have lost their minds. People fighting at the grocery store. That is an effective political ad.
Starting point is 00:39:46 100%. Because it does line up with one-off videos that go viral that you might see to be like, why? Oh, yeah, I remember something like that. Now, is that happening every single day to millions upon millions of people? No. But I get that you take the most sensational and spin that into someone's reality. Spoiler alert, though. you go you take the most sensational and spin that into someone's reality spoiler alert though
Starting point is 00:40:05 his campaign admitted that fucking half of the footage in that commercial was even from before hokal was governor so all this shit of like hokal's new york that has half of the clips were fucking from before so they were just using that colloquially colloquially like being like it's her new york man we're just living in it exactly because you see what happened this happened in new york yeah maybe two years ago but like it's already done like anybody who's already seen yeah that's how other political ads were yeah one of the other clips was from fucking oakland like so the lengths these politicians try to go to convince you that the shit you are seeing or isn't happening or is happening is is unbelievable and not to mention that they've spent something like
Starting point is 00:40:49 two to twelve million dollars already in the last couple weeks just trying to get like just to really feed this shit on like in in ads is is pretty telling and it's one of the same reasons why oz is tightening the race against john fetter too. He's going back to this crime thing. And I do want to reference. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh. And in the Daily Beast, this person wrote an article just in the second sentence or like third or second paragraph was just being like, you know, with crime going up nearly everywhere nationwide. It's no it's no wonder why Oz would have something to that effect where it's like you're even in this ad where you're presumably writing in op-ed to try and motivate Democrats to vote by saying like,
Starting point is 00:41:47 hey, they've got a potent way of getting people to vote. You better vote too. You're just going to keep saying this shit of like, well, it's everybody knows. Yeah. I don't know. Where's that data at? Like, because everything else fucking says otherwise.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah. I mean, it seems like this would be a fairly straight like the fact that murders were up during the pandemic and in the immediate aftermath of the pandemic like here are the other things that are up gun ownership is way up alcohol consumption is way up the economy is way the fuck down like the economy shit the bed because we're in a pandemic and they tried to treat it by giving people a small one-time check so people like these are all things we know lead to desperation and you know the circumstances that lead to crime the only thing that what they've been looking into this to see because the two narratives I've heard the most, and it doesn't matter if it's every mainstream media, whether it's the Daily Beast or the local news or, you know, the L.A. Times, they're all saying that it is caused by defund the police movement, which never happened.
Starting point is 00:42:59 No police was ever defunded like significantly. And also they're blaming progressive district attorneys. And those have both been statistically ruled out. They have looked at the statistics, the crime statistics, when a progressive DA comes to office in a city, the crime actually either goes down or stays the same. There's no significant connection, a statistically significant connection at all. It's completely fabricated. It's a completely political statement that is motivated to make people afraid. But the thing that gun ownership, you can't blame that because that makes people money. Alcohol consumption, you can't blame that because that makes people money. The economy shitting the bed and like just a one-time pandemic check like we just those one and two pandemic
Starting point is 00:43:50 checks were like america had a fucking allergic reaction to people getting free money so you can't like point that out and so you just go back to these go back to white supremacy yeah you go back to white supremacy oh these people want the police defunded. Oh, that's what happened. that give people things to do besides violence and you know community action like those sorts of things were defunded during the pandemic and they haven't come back and yeah those things work we've seen those things work repeatedly but because it's america that just gets fucking ignored you don't even hear about them when they do work and then they just get defunded. They're the first thing to get defunded. So that's why, like in any sane society, that is the obvious explanation. Like all those factors are obvious reasons why, you know, some crimes would be up and they get completely ignored and turned into a right wing talking point instead. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's like, oh, this house burned down with that, had a puddle of kerosene and a live electrical wire flying around next to it. I wonder what happened.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Right. I think they defunded the police. I'm sorry. You could have looked right there. Right. OK, never mind. It's just wild because like in medicine, right, we know preventative medicine is like the key to living a longer, healthy life, like to have maximum health to check in with a doctor. We need Dr. Oz.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Exactly. OK, thank you. OK, hold on now. Don't let me. I want to do that. I was going to do that pivot way better down the road. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Now, doctors, like, they tell us this because their mandate as doctors is to fucking study illnesses and tell us how to live healthily. That's why we go to a doctor. Okay, let's put a pin in this because I got to come back to something. Okay. Go ahead. And I'm speaking broadly, right, because I have many gripes with our medical system as it is, even as it relates to my own family. But you would never go to a doctor that always said, hey, man, call me up when shit gets bad. I don't know why you want me to like check up on shit. Just call me up when it gets so bad. You need medical assistance rather than how can I figure out ways to sustain someone's health? And it's important to look at
Starting point is 00:46:19 the language, too, with cops. Right. They're called law enforcement. They're not called guardians of our public safety. Although they say serve and protect on the cars, they were actually about keeping us safe. Their mantra wouldn't be call us when shit gets bad. Right. It would be what if we are actually what we are. The whole point of this is to prioritize safety, analyze things and look at what the causes are so we can keep people safe. Yeah. I have something that's going to break your heart.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Please. Two things. One thing, serve and protect reminded me of this. I bought a new Carhartt sweater. Who doesn't love a nice Carhartt? Yeah. Especially a national coming out day for lesbians. We love it.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Yeah. I ripped the tag off and it said Carhartt to serve and protect the working person or something like that. But I was like, is Carhartt a cop brand? Is Carhartt a cop? Cop brand? Have I been deceived? Somebody needs to look this up. No, remember, they pissed off all the fucking right wing people.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Oh, they did yeah yeah because they were they were like yo y'all need to get covid vaccines they're like i'm burning this shit well they matter they better to take a second look at that at that slogan then yeah but i mean they i mean they were hoping that you would feel like get the warm and fuzzies from that yeah but uh yeah i mean again like that's why it's just like if you want to take up for if you want people to take you seriously if you're actually talking about safety and safety is the concern and crime and all this shit then what the fuck are you doing to prevent it not call me up when shit gets bad i want the we're trying to
Starting point is 00:48:02 prevent this shit from the first place but again i think this is where this sort of metaphor overlaps with medicine because sometimes it's just simply not profitable for profitable to cure an illness. Right. No. And that's kind of, I think where we find ourselves like sort of just repeatedly being like, but I think the confusion, I think still like cycles over and over again for those of us who might not have fully grasped you know kind of how this all works and what what it's intended to actually serve and protect yeah when i was diagnosed so
Starting point is 00:48:31 i have frontal lobe seizures and it's not like to describe it it feels like deja vu i don't know if i've ever talked about it with y'all but i get like auras like Like I'm still like conscious. Right. And my body doesn't shake, but you'll feel like a sneeze is coming on or like, and then I'll get massive headaches sometimes. Like they're rolling. And I had like MRIs and I couldn't figure out. And I was like, I guess I'm psychic. You know, like cocky about it. I was like, I'm going to start charging people money.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And I finally saw a neurologist who knew what it was. Yeah. I was like, was like oh great he put me on this medicine he was talking to me for about an hour about what i'm finally on now which is lamectical about the joys of like how it could really help me it could also help anxiety and depression that was also caused by frontal lobe seizures and i was like great and then instead of prescribing me that he prescribed this oh my god it's like an intense it's for people that have like grand mal seizures they're like seizures where they shake and they can't operate motorized vehicles um i forgot what it's
Starting point is 00:49:37 but it's like an intense medication and i was like i don't think that i need that like these happen like i mean they're not consistent. It's a couple times a month or it happens when I'm stressed. He put me on it. I didn't take it for months. Then I finally did. I felt like I wasn't making rational decisions. I wasn't feeling like myself.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I was like, this is not for me. I was so irritable. I had nothing. I was like, oh, I'm going to stop this immediately. I called him up. We have another conversation. It's like an hour and a half again. And I'm like, I think I'd really like to try Lamictal.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I think I'd really like to get on that. And he's talking to me about it. He's like, great, I'm going to prescribe that. And he goes, well, you know what? What? I have a bunch of free samples of this. Holy shit. And he was pushing sam and i was like the same one no it was another drug but basically drug companies were like samples yeah push samples
Starting point is 00:50:33 and i was like i can never trust this man again right instead i went to a therapist who recommended me to a psychologist and i got lumictical and my life has been i have some samples of this which is something i've been noodling on in the lab yeah it's a proprietary drug i mean what is that dirt that's for headaches yeah little yellow yeah this will work i forgot the like the name brand of the drug but i was like how dare you well it's wild too that you like you said the flow of the conversation was this thing i think would be great for you however yeah that's not the one i'm gonna prescribe to you yeah i was like forget this this sucks yeah there are a ton of bad doctors and the entire medical industry is no i don't trust them i also don't discriminatory yeah yeah i think my like when you're like oh the family reasons like
Starting point is 00:51:26 same with mine yeah man i just had a cousin pass away man and it's really frustrating she she the doctors told her she had fibroids for the longest time it wasn't cancer yeah it was and it was by the time they diagnosed it it was stage four yeah and there was nothing they could do to my family nothing they could do and you And you just you're like, how are we? That's a whole separate conversation. And I'm like, I'm still, you know, grieving that loss. But I'm so sorry. You there are times where you're like, I don't what is what what is this thing doing for us, really? If people can fall through the cracks like that and I get, you know, there's a million one reasons for that. for us, really, if people can fall through the cracks like that. And I get, you know, there's a million one reasons for that. All that to say is when it comes down to like
Starting point is 00:52:08 keeping us safe and healthy, like you have to really look for the people that are actually putting that at the front of their mind and saying, well, this is actually the way to do something. This is the way to stay healthy. This is how we can actually prevent crime by supporting people and not maybe denying people who are having like issues especially for women's health and being like something else something else something else yeah but anyway that's that's a whole separate thing and shout out to people that covered for me while i was gone the last couple days but yeah i'm so sorry my yeah no it's it's it's it's shitty you know but this is part and parcel. This is this. My family's not alone.
Starting point is 00:52:45 People's families are not alone in this. This happens a lot, especially with women of color, women in general, anybody like people. It's there's a lot of disparity going on around us for sure. Yeah. A doctor ruined my mother's life and a surgeon. Yeah. Similar thing. Hmm.
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Starting point is 00:57:36 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I do want to just give the internet its flowers. The internet is bad at a lot of stuff. They're not going to rewrite your Star Wars movie for you and do a good job. They're not going to just have good overall takes on whether a movie is good or not, especially when it comes to, you know, people having insecurities around the stories.
Starting point is 00:58:22 They're just they're not reliable when it comes to large scale like understanding but when it comes to just acting as history's largest like focus group when it comes to just like a small gut reaction immediate thing they kind of nail it sometimes they nailed it with sonic's eyes you know sonic's eyes were unsettling and freaky they they did said they said give them goggle eyes again the movie stopped production you know canceled their planned launch date and fixed his eyes like towards what the what the internet asked for and it worked much better it was a massive hit the movie not great but it's you know it's much better than it would have been with his weird eyes and teeth and they they also had an instinct about mario's voice when they heard
Starting point is 00:59:11 that chris pratt was going to be doing mario's voice and that's a cop chris pratt is essentially a cop oh yeah and fuck you chris pratt i do wonder like you know how much of this backlash is because America's like well first so there's a couple things he's a cop like that's just his spirit deep down he's a cop he's a cop he like when I picture him he's in a police uniform even though I don't think I've ever
Starting point is 00:59:38 seen him in a police uniform that's he's like a cop who would be like what do you guys smoking weed and he'd grab your blunt and pretend to smoke it on the office you fucking scumbag But he's like a cop who would be like, what are you guys smoking weed? And he'd grab your blunt and pretend to smoke it. Oh, right. I used to be funny. I was on the offense. Get against the fucking wall, you fucking scumbag.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Exactly. Well, he did do a joke, right? He was also like. So he was the star of what might have been the worst movie that was seen by the most people. The last Jurassic Park movie, because that was a massive hit. And I don't know one person who liked it like i know many people who say it's the worst movie they've ever seen i know like multiple people who say it's the worst movie they've ever seen yeah so anytime you have that overlap of like everyone saw that shit and nobody liked it you're going to get some ill will so
Starting point is 01:00:23 those are two things that could be going on in the background but i was inclined to be like this doesn't seem like a fit but let's see like maybe this guy has is a voice talent and yeah maybe here let's hear let's just hear the part in the teaser when it comes like a minute and a half in where you see bowser i like everything up to this point by the way the trailer seems fun like they're getting like the the comedy beats are working for me and bowser sounds requisitely grouchy bowser sounds like you would expect bowser to sound and it's jack black doing but jack black is doing a voice. He's not just being Jack Black. He's doing a voice. He's like, I really do, Mario 2. Like, no.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Okay, so let's hear what Chris Pratt has come up with for Mario, a iconic character, like a true icon of pop culture, with an iconic voice. With an iconic character of a voice. Here we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Lands on a mushroom. Okay. Gr we go. Yeah. Lands on a mushroom. Okay. Groaning. Seeing the world around. A lot of mushrooms. What is this place? Huh? Mario?
Starting point is 01:01:42 So just... Okay. Another cartoon voice that one's perfectly fine okay mario okay now wait you gotta hear kingdom here we come there what those those are the two chances we get to listen to his voice i'm i'm assuming that his inspiration because people people reacted negatively and he was like, you're going to, when you hear this movie, when you see this movie, you're going to hear a voice that is unlike anything you've ever heard in the universe of Mario. And by that, he meant you've never just heard like some guy be. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Like that is the voice. I'm devastated like if somebody just that's the voice i would come up with if somebody was like just be some guy like if someone handed me a already ringing phone and was like hey can you say you're my dad and like tell the principal i can't come to school that day like that hello uh yeah this is uh miles's dad uh he's too sick to come to school today what is this place because of 9-11 did you say yeah i'm sorry i don't think i told people i tried to get out of a chemistry test on 9-11 because i didn't study and everybody wasn't even early i I was like, yeah, I got to go too before this test.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Sorry, I didn't mean to mean the significance of that day. Honestly, it's infuriating because you look at like it's a cartoon and voice acting is like a fucking art form. When you are not there to be the physical
Starting point is 01:03:21 presence, you got to also like you're giving your voice to it and just to be like, hey, whoa. Remember before he's like, man, people aren? There to be the physical presence. You got to also get, like, you're giving your voice to it. And just to be like, hey, whoa. Remember before, he's like, man, people aren't going to be ready for my fucking Mario voice. You're right, because you didn't do shit at all. You didn't put any effort into it. So we didn't expect that. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I feel like, I don't know if this helps or hinders it. But when you look at Mario, you're expecting to hear that high pitch voice. I'm expecting, like I could have seen if they had gone with, if they had had Jared Leto's character from house of Gucci, do the voice. Like Lady Gaga even. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:58 But it's gotta be, it's gotta be cartoonish over the top. And I know he didn't make that choice because he was like the other version, the fence of do Italian people. Maybe cast an Italian man. Yeah. What if, what if that,
Starting point is 01:04:12 but so that mainstream media is reacting like this is some nerd shit for their like hardcore Mario fans are pissed, but I'm not like a hardcore fan. I am familiar with Mario because he is iconic and I care about pop culture, but I'm not like a hardcore fan. I am familiar with Mario because he is iconic and I care about pop culture, but I'm not like, it would be like having Mickey Mouse voiced by a hungover Bruce Willis. Like that is, I would love that.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Well, that would be a choice though. I guess it's not like that because that would at least be a choice. This is a non-choice like blockbuster middle of the road hedge that i can't imagine not hurting the movie because it's just like i don't know like there's someone someone put together all the other like the dubbed versions like the french trailer the italian trailer and the german trailer just to compare what voice acting shit we got and it's interesting to hear so this is we've heard the english one this is the french. And it's interesting to hear. So this is, we've heard the English one.
Starting point is 01:05:05 This is the French one. There. Good scream. That. No. That. See, the French one sounds like Mario. That is it. Here's the Italian one.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Here's the Italian one. Oh my God. Yes. I would take that all day. The French and the Italian are nailing it, fool. They know cinema. Get back in the lab, sir. That is inexcusable.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I'll watch the lab, sir. That is inexcusable. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I'll watch the dubbed Italian one. I'll tell you all that much. Oh, hell yeah. Again, I don't know why the people who are going hard, they're like, honestly, you wouldn't be able to handle a whole movie with a guy's voice like that.
Starting point is 01:06:00 It's like people have been playing games with this fucker's voice for longer than I've been alive. Yeah. But whatever. Again, it's like people have been playing games with this fucker's voice for longer than i've been alive yeah but whatever i don't again it's so weird like you i'm like i'm not the biggest mario fan like where i'm like up on every single nintendo thing but there's just such a there's like a disconnect it would be like watching like this big bird biopic or something and you see big bird and like hey what up homie and you're like what the fuck like that's not big bird like that's not and there's a mismatch there and i don't care who the fucking celebrity du jour is that's right and like i actually don't like i didn't so i didn't see
Starting point is 01:06:37 the latest jurassic park movie so i'm not like i don't i don't have that bias i actually watched the chris pratt movie about time traveling aliens because it was like mid-pandemic and everyone was watching it and my takeaway was like i get the chris pratt thing like i i get weird vibes from him in person but like as a movie star he has charisma that makes him easy to watch and do stuff like i'm not a Chris Pratt hater in theory. It's just in practice. This choice is so
Starting point is 01:07:11 bad. It is assless both in that Mario is assless in character design and there's just no ass in his voice either. They took the whole ass out of this one. I know you were really concerned about Mario's lack of ass. I mean, that's the one thing I remember.
Starting point is 01:07:28 You're gobsmacked. I'm gobsmacked at no ass. Uh-huh. And honestly, it fits. Chris Pratt, no ass. No way does that guy have an ass. No. That guy would work for years to get rid of his ass.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I mean, Mario was fit. He was juicy. That's a juicy ass. I mean, Mario was juicy. That's a juicy ass. He had a juicy butt. And then he's got the, he got, I don't know. No.
Starting point is 01:07:55 What happened, Mario? You changed. He needs ass. Like, so they're going to go realistic. He's like our Lola bunny. Now we're like,
Starting point is 01:08:03 what happened? They're going to go realistic. He's like our Lola Bunny now. We're like, what happened? They're going to go realistic on his voice, but they're not going to give him the type of ass that could do what Mario does. I mean, he's got to bounce on that ass. Mario jumps. He bounces. He creates small earthquakes with that ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Like, this is. You got a dumper. Yeah. They're just turning him into, just like an average mediocre it's a depressing it's a depressing butt to look i think that's the problem you could have made it normal they actually it's almost like they went out of their way to be like to not no but yeah look at fucking larry long back over here like the fuck man i've never heard that. Larry Longback? Larry Longback. I like that. Yeah, take that one.
Starting point is 01:08:46 That's free. You know? No Longbacks. He's got, look. I don't know. I don't know. Is Larry Longback a thing you just improvised, or is that a thing? No, Longback is like, people say that by having no butt.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Right. Wow, I've never heard that. I can't wait to call somebody that. Hey, you know what? I just took a pre-workout. There's a world of language out there. But yeah, they're never heard that. I can't wait to call somebody that. Hey, you know what? I just took a pre-workout. There's a world of language out there. But yeah, they're doing a lot. And what's wild is, too, the fucking trailer looks fucking amazing.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I know. I'm fucking stoked. It's wild. I'm like, yo, this shit looks dope, except for the fucking main character's voice that I cannot fucking get with. Yeah. Is Luigi going to be in it? Luigi's in it. The trailer closes out. Luigi.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Also Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt and Chris Pratt. No, it's Charlie Day. No, I don't think it's Charlie Day. Charlie Day's a great choice. You don't need a bland Hollywood leading man to be the voice of your thing like
Starting point is 01:09:49 you do a comedic act like patton oswalt was the voice of ratatouille he wasn't like a massive star but he was like a great fit for that voice because he's right yeah like come on i don't know make charlie day the voice of both do you think think there'll be such an outrage that the Nintendo's will be like, hey man, we got rid of fucking Chris Pratt, y'all. That was our bad. I think people would be celebrating that. Oh yeah. And then there'd be, who's the guy, Charles Martinet
Starting point is 01:10:15 I think is the one who does the real voice. It's like, we got him back. Sorry y'all. Oh really? Wouldn't that be crazy? That would be incredible. There's a blend you can do between like that. I hadn't heard the French and the Italian version, but those were like those weren't full Charles Martinet. Like, no, but they said, oh, this is a Mario cartoon.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah. OK, say less. Not. Oh, man, that was wild. Huh, Toad? We better get up on out of here. Great. Where are we going to have lunch, fella?
Starting point is 01:10:46 I hope there's Duke's mayonnaise. Because I got to work on this butt. Well, Ever, as always, a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, you can find me across the internet at Ever, E-V-E-R, Maynard, M-A-I-N-A-R-D, or my podcast at Y'all Gay. This is me and my friend Allie. It's two Southern queers,
Starting point is 01:11:09 and we just shoot the shit and tell very fun stories. And it's inappropriate. If you think I'm inappropriate on this. Oh, boy. Whoa. Yeah, you can find me there. Amazing. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yeah. Well, I don't know that I've been enjoying it, but I've definitely been amplifying it. And that is the voices of the women in Iran right now and the movement that's happening there. Yeah. I think it's incredible. It's harrowing. It's incomprehensible. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Yeah. I try to explain it and my voice goes nope my body goes compartmentalized i would say support these women and you know i don't mean to brag but like some of my friends are persian the whitest thing to say as a friend to persian people yeah but it's important to amplify these voices and in a and the women of iran have said just keep posting about what's happening here because even like the country is like turning off the internet it's not getting a lot of media coverage and if it is it's very biased or not talking about what yeah it's like this is this isn't what's really happening and instead children are getting
Starting point is 01:12:26 slaughtered teenagers are getting slaughtered people are going missing it's a genocide yeah i mean it's it's a full it's a full-scale attack on their own people who are quite literally just advocating for their own little bit of autonomy or equality uh yeah and like you said it's like when we were talking about the other day it's like you've it's like a omni you have like an omni sensation like i feel fucking everything i'm like proud i'm i'm impressed i'm deeply saddened i feel shitty and powerless but yeah like you said yeah look if you know if we're just counting on like in america to keep the conversation going they might as well think that nothing's happening there anymore. The woman in the UN that cut her hair? Wow.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah. I don't know if you've seen that video. Yeah. Incredible. Yeah. No, thank you again for having me on, y'all. I always have a great time pivoting the conversation to our goodbyes. Hey, guys. Sorry, my wife's locked out of her car, so I'm just trying. I'll be right back.
Starting point is 01:13:26 You're always bragging about having a wife. I'm always talking about how lonely I am. He put a phone to his ear like he was doing something. 9-11 happened. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I mean, I had to. I'll take over for Jack. Miles, it's great having you. Thanks, Jack. Always great to be here. You want me to tell you people where they can find me and some tweets I like?
Starting point is 01:13:44 Fuck yeah, bro. Say less. I'm about to do that shit right now. they can find me and some tweets I like? Fuck yeah, bro. Say less. I'm about to do that shit right now. You can find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. Also, find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. The season is right around the corner. So check in on us with all of our weird takes and our just nonsense, basically. And then if you want to check out some trash talk, and I mean talking about trash TV,
Starting point is 01:14:07 come see Sophia Alexander and I talk about 90 Day Fiancé on 420 Day Fiancé. Okay? And some tweets that I like. I like a few tweets. The first one is from Jame at Klugens. Pausing sex. Do you want a Capri Sun? Oh, I love that tweet. yeah yeah yeah i just i love that shit uh and then chad quant at quantum theory q u a n d t u m uh tweeted
Starting point is 01:14:35 chris pratt mario spoke five words and weed was decriminalized in america i don't know what that means but it wasn't fully you know not people aren't getting out of jail quite yet, but I'm sure we'll talk about that in the next few episodes. Just the federal. Yeah. Oh, which brings me to the next one, which is Daniel at Escargo Pro underscore tweeted. It's so funny. Obama had all this political capital and a huge majority and couldn't do any of this. And Joe, in the twilight of his life, just throwing up Steph Curry shots because they gave him some Vyvanse. Amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore
Starting point is 01:15:11 O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying. YouTube, at YouTube, tweeted the best talk show isn't on TV because it's some more news videos, which is true, but shout out to katie and cody and katie katie stole katie golden cody johnson yeah i mean well earned that show is super fucking well done
Starting point is 01:15:35 and yeah and they said youtube has a right word bend and that's what they're gonna point to they're like really we shot it up this show. Yeah, exactly. Poison Junior tweeted, overnight oats, gig economy, tiny home. You are a peasant who eats gruel. Damn. I don't like that. I know, that was mean. Gotta wake up. Down vote.
Starting point is 01:16:00 We use too many euphemisms, huh? And then Elon Musk can eat my poo, tweeted. My version of red pilling is when I teach people the Boston Tea Party was triggered by England lowering the tea tax and the Sons of Liberty were the wealthiest Boston businessmen who made their money smuggling and didn't want the competition.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Facts. Is that true? That is true. Yeah. Fuck our history. The founding fathers were just rich guys who were trying to get richer. Anyway. Nothing's changed. Nothing at all.
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Starting point is 01:17:03 uh and she is actually i think the first woman guitarist vocalist from this region. Because this genre is just usually men. And her guitar playing is fucking so good. And her voice is awesome. And if you like African guitar stuff, you know, that sort of sub-Saharan sound, definitely check this out. This track is called Bahouche. B-A-H-O-U-C-H-E. And maybe that's a French word, but I'm ignorant, so you'll have to forgive me.
Starting point is 01:17:29 And the artist, again, is Amaria Hamadouler. Really dope music. So check this out. Really, really great music. I think it's pronounced Bay-hoo-che. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's called Bahouche.
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